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MILITARY INTELLIGENCE OFFICER SPEAKS | NEW JERSEY DRONES · Ryder Lee

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  Speaker 2: what's going on in New Jersey. There's so many different
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  Speaker 2: theories going on out there. He's former d d N
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  Speaker 2: US Army Military Intelligence and has first hand knowledge of
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  Speaker 2: D US Army Military Intelligence, anti terrorism, counterintelligence and security specialists,
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  Speaker 2: recently retired, Trey Hudson, Welcome back to the show. It's
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  Speaker 2: good to see.
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  Speaker 1: You well, Wendy. I'm home. Yeah. I thought i'd give
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  Speaker 1: you all a little shout out there to your latest
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  Speaker 1: latest project. Yeah. I'm doing great, doing great. I hope
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  Speaker 1: everybody is having a festive and happy holiday season. Whatever
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  Speaker 1: flavor your uh your December celebrations, take I hope it's
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  Speaker 1: very good for you and your listeners. And uh and
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  Speaker 1: this is this is a subject, I believe it or not.
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  Speaker 1: I've been getting phone calls from people all over asking
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  Speaker 1: me for my opinion on this, and uh, so you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna put that out there, and you know, we'll
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  Speaker 1: just see kind of where we go.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so many different theories rolling around about these
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  Speaker 2: drones and what's really going on, from Project Blue to
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  Speaker 2: foreign intelligence gathering to suitcase nukes and all kinds of
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  Speaker 2: different things. And the other day Trump actually posted on
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  Speaker 2: on truth social to mystery drones sightings all over the country.
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  Speaker 2: Can this really be happening without our government's knowledge? I
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  Speaker 2: don't think so. Let the public know and now otherwise
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  Speaker 2: shoot them down? He said, shoot them down, Trey. He's
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  Speaker 2: telling the public to shoot these drones down if you
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  Speaker 2: don't know what they are. But then he also made
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  Speaker 2: a statement last night that the government knows exactly what
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  Speaker 2: they are. What we're going to listen to right now.
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  Speaker 1: All the drones that are flying around New Jersorts. It
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  Speaker 1: seems like that there people have a big disc the government.
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  Speaker 3: The government knows what is happening. Look, our military knows
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  Speaker 3: where they took off from. If it's a garage, they
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  Speaker 3: can go right into that garage. They know where it
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  Speaker 3: came from and where it went. And for some reason
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  Speaker 3: they don't want to comment, and I think they'd be
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  Speaker 3: better of saying what it is. Our military knows and
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  Speaker 3: our president knows, and for some reason they want to
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  Speaker 3: keep people in suspense. I can't imagine it's the enemy,
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  Speaker 3: because it was the enemy they'd blasted out, even if
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  Speaker 3: they were late, they'd blasted Something strange is going on.
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  Speaker 3: For some reason, they don't want to tell the people,
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  Speaker 3: and they should because the people are really I mean,
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  Speaker 3: they happen to be over Bedminster.
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  Speaker 2: We want to know the job.
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  Speaker 3: They're very they're very They're very close to Bedminster. I
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  Speaker 3: think maybe I won't spend the weekend in bed Minster.
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  Speaker 2: So that's him basically saying the government knows what they are,
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  Speaker 2: the military knows what they are, but they're not telling
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  Speaker 2: the public what they are. Or what do you think
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  Speaker 2: of his statements there? And why would the government or
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  Speaker 2: the military know what they are and not inform the
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  Speaker 2: public about what they are. And you you're a former
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  Speaker 2: US military, so you would you would know this is
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  Speaker 2: your this is your wheelhouse, right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's interest because I have reached out
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  Speaker 1: to some contacts still in the Department of Defense, both
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  Speaker 1: in the force protection slash anti terrorism world and also
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  Speaker 1: we're in the intelligence side of it.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: It's interesting that based on speaking of these individuals, the
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  Speaker 1: d o D is not terribly Let me let me
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  Speaker 1: let me rephrase that the Department of Defense is always
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  Speaker 1: concerned about unauthorized airframes, be they aircraft you know, manned
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  Speaker 1: or unmanned or anything else entering into their airspace. That's
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  Speaker 1: a force protection you know concern. Uh. So they always
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  Speaker 1: have had a concern about unmanned aerial vehicles. I know,
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  Speaker 1: right before I left d o D, a lot of
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  Speaker 1: places were starting to stand up there unmanned aerial vehicle
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  Speaker 1: countermeasures uh working groups and you know, coming up with
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  Speaker 1: countermeasures reporting criteria, you know, starting to link up with
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  Speaker 1: you know, other agencies and try to kind of get
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  Speaker 1: a hand on it. So that's important to note is
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  Speaker 1: at least one FBI regional office, and I'm talking regional
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  Speaker 1: had a meeting within the past fourteen days and they
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  Speaker 1: brought their stakeholders in and they told their stakeholders you know,
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  Speaker 1: we're just going to bring you up to speed and
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  Speaker 1: refresh your memory on what we perceive as the UAV
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  Speaker 1: threat or UAS unmanned aerial systems. These are the type
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  Speaker 1: of commercial drones that are out there. These are the
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  Speaker 1: type of hobby drones that are out there. These are
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  Speaker 1: how they're configured. This is what their lights look like.
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  Speaker 1: These are their capabilities, And if you encounter these over
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  Speaker 1: your airspace, this is the reporting criteria, and this is
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  Speaker 1: the reporting stovepipe that we want. We've got one stovepipe
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  Speaker 1: that goes up law enforcement, one stovepipe that goes up
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  Speaker 1: the intelligence network. And there has been a concern for
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  Speaker 1: many years of of nefarious actors acting on behalf of
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  Speaker 1: foreign governments, flying commercial drones over sensitive US military and
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  Speaker 1: governmental installations and sending that information back to their home country. Now,
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  Speaker 1: whether these are professional iOS, intelligence officers or just someone
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  Speaker 1: tasked by their home country when they come here, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that remains to be seen. But that's always been a concern. So,
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  Speaker 1: but that DoD is not on a heightened state of
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  Speaker 1: alert from what I know, you know, from what my
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  Speaker 1: sources tell me about these drones. It's more of a
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  Speaker 1: general awareness of what's going on.
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  Speaker 2: Now when Trump says that if they were foreign, because
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  Speaker 2: that was one of the first things that came out.
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  Speaker 2: There was Republican congressman that said that this was a
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  Speaker 2: Iranian mothership that was off the East coast that was
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  Speaker 2: sending in all these drones that are now over New Jersey.
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  Speaker 2: And Trump said, well, it's not a foreign threat, because
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  Speaker 2: if it was a foreign threat, then it would be
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  Speaker 2: shot down. So are we thinking that these are our technology,
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  Speaker 2: that these are our drones?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you, you know, and I have I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: I am the world's foremost expert on my opinion. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I'll put that out there. So this is my opinion,
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  Speaker 1: and I am just a dude like everybody else. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: based on the videos that I have seen, you know,
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  Speaker 1: on broadcast television, well, yeah, there's there's a little drone
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  Speaker 1: that we had in Afghanistan. But uh, you know, based
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  Speaker 1: on the videos that I've seen put out by the media,
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  Speaker 1: is most of those look like aircraft and there's some
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  Speaker 1: very distinct tail tale signs that indicate an aircraft. And
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  Speaker 1: forgive me, my printer isn't working very well, but that's uh,
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  Speaker 1: that's kind of an outline of aircraft lighting configuration is
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  Speaker 1: what's really interesting is is this one right here. If
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  Speaker 1: you notice you have red and green rotating beacons on
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  Speaker 1: the tail or, on the wingtips rather, and then you
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  Speaker 1: also have strobing position lights. Strobing on the tail you
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  Speaker 1: have red rotating beacons your anti collision lights that rotate
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  Speaker 1: up on top. And then in the front of the
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  Speaker 1: aircraft when they are in approach to an airport, they
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  Speaker 1: turn on their landing lights, and there's a system called
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  Speaker 1: the alternight alternating landing light system where the lights will
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  Speaker 1: wigwag they're landing lights. So you know, I start looking
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  Speaker 1: at these videos and I see a green light, red light,
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  Speaker 1: white position light, white position light, flashing red beacon in
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  Speaker 1: the middle, and then flashing lights in front of it.
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  Speaker 1: That's obviously an aircraft. Now, what a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: don't realize is how full our airspace is. I know,
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  Speaker 1: I live in a rural area and I use a
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  Speaker 1: program called flight Radar twenty four and you can just
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  Speaker 1: in that program up and it'll show you the air
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  Speaker 1: traffic in your AO, your area of operation, and the
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  Speaker 1: skies are absolutely full of this stuff. So I think
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  Speaker 1: what we're looking at three things is I think probably
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  Speaker 1: ninety five percent of the things that people are capturing
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  Speaker 1: on video or are seeing our aircraft, I think they
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  Speaker 1: have never had a chance or never really thought about
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  Speaker 1: looking into the skies. I'll give you an example. I
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  Speaker 1: bought a camper about a month ago. You know, pull
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  Speaker 1: behind camper, you know, pull behind my truck. And once
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  Speaker 1: I bought that camper, I started kind of noticing campers everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, those things are everywhere, and I've never really
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  Speaker 1: noticed it before because I never had a reason to look.
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  Speaker 1: Now people are looking into the sky. Second thing I
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  Speaker 1: think going on is a little bit of mass hysteria.
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  Speaker 1: Back in the mid forties, there was an incident called
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  Speaker 1: the Mountain Gasser in Illinois, and it's a store that
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  Speaker 1: happened in the mid forties where this guy or was
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  Speaker 1: believed to be going around to people's houses and squirting
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  Speaker 1: some sort of noxious gas into their homes. And it's
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  Speaker 1: believed that there might have been one or two incidences
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  Speaker 1: of some sort of type of noxious gas being introduced
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  Speaker 1: into someone's house by some means, maybe not even necessarily
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  Speaker 1: a person, but it led to mass hysteria and people
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  Speaker 1: got spun up. So you're getting in my opinion, people
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  Speaker 1: that haven't really been paying a lot of attention to
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  Speaker 1: the skies. Maybe you're not aware of the configuration of
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  Speaker 1: aircraft lighting. And now they're paying attention, and they're hearing
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  Speaker 1: from their friends and neighbors, and they're constantly being fed
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  Speaker 1: a trough full of slop from the mass media about
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  Speaker 1: drones invading our airspace. And now they see drones everywhere,
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  Speaker 1: and everybody likes, you know, a sexy, scary story, so
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  Speaker 1: obviously they must be bad. Who wants to run outside say,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, I saw an airplane. That's pretty boring.
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  Speaker 1: I ran outside and I saw this thing that I
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  Speaker 1: couldn't see, and it was flashing, and it must be
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  Speaker 1: what they're talking about on TV.
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  Speaker 2: Now, do these drones that you're familiar with that this
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  Speaker 2: is a picture of you standing beside a drone in Afghanistan? Correct?
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  Speaker 2: Do these types of drones that you're aware of, did
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  Speaker 2: they have the ability to like just stay in the
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  Speaker 2: same spot or did they have to constantly be in
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  Speaker 2: motion because some of the video that I've seen from
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  Speaker 2: some of these reports, they kind of just seem to
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  Speaker 2: be hovering in the same spot.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Okay, And and then I got this particular drone
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  Speaker 1: that you're seeing on the screen here is the Army
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  Speaker 1: sky Warrior program, which is the same thing as the Predator,
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  Speaker 1: And it's actually driven driven by the prop in a
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  Speaker 1: tractor or a pusher configuration rather, and it flies like
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  Speaker 1: an airplane and it has you know, when it's flying
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  Speaker 1: in airspace that it needs to be lit up. It
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  Speaker 1: has all the airplane lights and everything. It's an airplane.
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  Speaker 1: It just doesn't have a pilot in it. Now, the
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  Speaker 1: other four percent said, ninety five percent I think are
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  Speaker 1: airplanes or authorized commercial or governmental drones on legitimate flight plans.
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  Speaker 1: Four and a half percent I think are naughty drone pilots,
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  Speaker 1: people that have hobby loan hobby drones and are flying
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  Speaker 1: them around. And I'll give you two examples that came
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  Speaker 1: up just this week and near Picatinny Arsenal, there was
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  Speaker 1: a paranormal researcher that has a podcast and YouTube channel.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to mention his name, but he was
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  Speaker 1: hearing about drones flying over the Picatinny Arsenal. Okay, Picatinny
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  Speaker 1: Arsenal most of this month has been issued a temporary
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  Speaker 1: flight restriction by the FAA and the TFR basically limits
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  Speaker 1: all air traffic above Picatinny Arsenal without specific FAA approval. Well,
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  Speaker 1: this guy saw what he thought was a drone flying
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  Speaker 1: over Picatinny Arsenal, so he decided to launch his own
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  Speaker 1: drone and as he was approaching the first drone, his
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  Speaker 1: ran out of power and crashed into Picatinny Arsenal. Guess
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  Speaker 1: who now has federal law enforcement problems? That guy, mister
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  Speaker 1: Michael b in New Jersey now has federal law enforcement problems.
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  Speaker 2: But that's the whole issueing the problem with his drones
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  Speaker 2: over New Jersey because people have reported that they've done that,
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  Speaker 2: that they've sent up their own drones to try and
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  Speaker 2: investigate what's going on with these other drones and then
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  Speaker 2: they just immediately fall out of the sky or they
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  Speaker 2: crash and they land, and you know, the drone restrictions
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  Speaker 2: over regular normal military installations are really anywhere. Actually, there's
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  Speaker 2: very few places that you can actually fly your drone
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  Speaker 2: legally in the United States besides like in you know,
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  Speaker 2: rural areas and then the woods and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, what's happening with these uh,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, and we're under the assumption that these people
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  Speaker 2: really are flying up their drones and they're you know,
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  Speaker 2: being destroyed and then falling back to the ground.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, And I think there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: that going on. I think there's a lot of hobbyists
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  Speaker 1: that are curious, and I think there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: unethical cobbyists that just puts stuff up there to see
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  Speaker 1: if they can screw with people, you know, see if
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  Speaker 1: they can get people stirred up. The same thing as
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  Speaker 1: you know, when you have a UFO siding, you have
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  Speaker 1: people that put up by Chinese lanterns just so people
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  Speaker 1: will see lights in the sky and get very excited
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  Speaker 1: about it. But that's the four and a half percent.
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  Speaker 1: Now what's interesting is I think about half a percent
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  Speaker 1: of these things are unknown, you know, cannot be explained
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  Speaker 1: using regular, uh regular means. But what I find telling
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  Speaker 1: is you'll see these videos posted on the uh you know,
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  Speaker 1: post it on the news media or on uh you know,
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  Speaker 1: YouTube or Facebook x whatever, the personal say, here's this
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  Speaker 1: thing I took a photograph of or a video of
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  Speaker 1: what seems to be distinctly lacking is what's your position
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  Speaker 1: when you saw this? What's the latitude of longitude what's
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  Speaker 1: the asthmuth of this thing? You know, what direction were
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  Speaker 1: you facing? How many degrees above the horizon was it?
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  Speaker 1: Did you crosswalk this against known air traffic in your area?
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  Speaker 1: Did you use a program like SkyWatch to see if
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  Speaker 1: perhaps it was Venus or Mars or some other planetary
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  Speaker 1: body versus just a video with a black sky with
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  Speaker 1: flashing lights. You know, we need before we start hitting
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  Speaker 1: the panic button on this, we need a lot more data,
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  Speaker 1: very simple compass. Take the asthmath of where you're seeing
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  Speaker 1: this thing, GPS, what's your latitude and longitude? Your telephone
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  Speaker 1: will double?
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  Speaker 4: Is this.
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  Speaker 1: Wristwatch? What time was this thing sighted? And you can
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  Speaker 1: really start whittling down and a lot of the chaff,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a lot of the fluff out of this,
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  Speaker 1: and then really focus in on the things that are
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  Speaker 1: truly anomalous. And that's where I think the interest is.
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  Speaker 1: But we are just being bombarded by partial, fragmentary and
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  Speaker 1: quite frankly, very amateurishly collected data that we have to
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  Speaker 1: make an assumption that using Okham's raisor that people are
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  Speaker 1: misidentifying celestial objects or normal aircraft.
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  Speaker 2: Well that's what the Aero Historical Report basically came out
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  Speaker 2: and said that it's all drones. And it's another really
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  Speaker 2: interesting thing because we just had that other UAP congressional
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  Speaker 2: hearing not too long ago, around two to three weeks ago,
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  Speaker 2: I believe, or it was sometime around that. It was
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  Speaker 2: right after that UFO documentary came out on Netflix. Was
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  Speaker 2: supposed to run up to the second congressional hearing, and
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  Speaker 2: pretty much the entire hearing was about. Did you listen
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  Speaker 2: to the hearing?
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  Speaker 1: I listened to part of it. I had a friend
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  Speaker 1: that was actually there. Uh so he and I have
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  Speaker 1: been talking back and forth about perhaps getting to some
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  Speaker 1: people and introducing some material. H yeah, it's uh.
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  Speaker 2: Well, what I was, what I was mentioning was the
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  Speaker 2: whole the entire thing was mostly about like USOS and
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  Speaker 2: underwater submergible objects and these these uh you know, these
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  Speaker 2: UAP or whatever going in like trans medium craft that
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  Speaker 2: are going into the water, coming up out of the water,
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  Speaker 2: back and forth with impunity. And that's pretty much what
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  Speaker 2: the entire congressional hearing was about. And then it's just
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of strange and maybe a weird coincidence that
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  Speaker 2: this is what people are reporting with these drones as
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  Speaker 2: well that they're coming in and up and out of
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  Speaker 2: the water. Do we know about any drones that is, uh,
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  Speaker 2: that can go in and out of the water.
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  Speaker 1: There are there are some quad choppers that can fly
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  Speaker 1: under the water, then pop out and then fly all. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but you know those are those are hobbyists. Now. You know,
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  Speaker 1: if if we have developed a hobby you know, like that,
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  Speaker 1: then you can rest assured the uh, the government you
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  Speaker 1: know has developed you know, craft that can gather data
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  Speaker 1: or intelligence underwater and that can fly off. But uh,
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  Speaker 1: you well, another thing I think is really interesting is
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  Speaker 1: people say, oh, it's a secret project. Uh. If you know,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: in all the special projects I've ever been involved with,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: you don't send the asset up into the air with
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: flashing lights and say, hey, look at me, I'm a
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: secret project. The operative word and secret project is secret.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: It just doesn't make sense to me. And Uh, I've
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: been meaning to pick the brain of a mutual friend
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: of our, you know who I'm talking about about some
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: of this stuff, and uh, you know, I kind of
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: see what he thinks about it, But I imagine he'd probably
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: be a batt along the same lines. If I had
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: to guess.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would, uh, I would agree with that. And
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: then these if they are so you're basically saying that
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: some of these are mixed with people's you know, actual
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: because this is kind of like what the White House
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: correspondent said, like the other day, they were essentially like,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: we don't have any proof, for any evidence that this
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: is you know, that these drones are over top secret
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: facilitators or across any kind of military bases. And actually
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: have that right here that we're going to listen to again.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: I showed it the other day on my show. But
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: this is really interesting here.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: An activity here on the East coast, particularly in and
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: around New Jersey. We have no evidence at this time
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: that the reported drone sightings pose a national security or
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: a public safety threat, or have a foreign nexus. The
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: Department of Homeland Security and the FBI are investigating these sightings,
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: and they're working closely with state and local law enforcement
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: to provide resources using numerous detections and methods to better
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: understand their origin. Using very sophisticated electronic detection technologies provided
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: by federal authorities. We have not been able to and
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: neither have state or local law enforcement of authorities. Corroborate
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: any of the reported visual sightings. To the contrary, Upon
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: review of available imagery, it appears that many of the
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: reported sightings are actually manned aircraft that are being operated lawfully.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Now this is so contradictory because one time it's drones,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: it's unpiloted drones, it's irene there, they're they're aliens or UFOs.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: And now this White House representatives saying that they that
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: they're manned aircraft. What do you make of that, trey,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: I think you're muted.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah that uh, you know, I think that might have
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: been a misspeak. Is I think that he might have
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: meant to say authorized aircraft because of their aircraft flying
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: around in the airspace, you know, especially in you know,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: urban areas that are drones, you know, that are not manned. So,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: you know, but I think, you know, for primophasia, I
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: think it's a reasonable statement. I think that most of
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: these are authorized manned and unmanned aircraft, be they conventional
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: fixed wing aircraft, quad shoppers or whatever, either flown by military,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: commercial or hobbyist. You know, some hobbyists do fly you know,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: drones under the proper authorization, with the proper licenses. You know,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: to inspect chimneys and towers and things like that, or
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: you know, they are you know, civilian drones that people
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: you know, are seeing and getting upset, you know, and
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: getting all wound up like this is mine. That's this
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: is a dji. Many too, there's some larger versions of
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: something like this. That's the magic. This thing has lights
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: on the front and back of it. And I guarantee
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: if I flew this up, you know, five six hundred feet,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: the next thing, you know, the whole this area would
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: light up about you know, there's one of those mysterious
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: drones where there's there's nothing freaking mysterious about this. This
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: is Trey Hudson's drone. So I think there's some of
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: that going on. And I think people want to be
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: part of the story. That's human nature. You know, we're storytellers.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: We like to be part of what's going on, and
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: that feeds into maybe some of the uh, some of
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: the mass hysteria out there. And I don't say that
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: to be derogatory or demeaning in any way. I think
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: sometimes people just get very excited and they grabb on
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: little nuggets of partial information and run with it. Like
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: I said, I have not seen any of these reports
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: come out with a matching video that said I was
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: standing at this latitude longitude basaying, you know, one hundred
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: and two degrees magnetic, you know, and I saw I
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: light ten degrees above the horizon. I went and I
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: checked with known fl light plans. I did not see
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: any known flight plans. This is the time it was.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: You can check this yourself, world to see that there
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: were no aircraft in this vicinity. And this is what
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I experienced. The one thing that's conspicuously absent is you
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: haven't heard Mouffon comment on this. You know this if
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: the if they really thought that these were some sort
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: of mysterious UAPs is believe me, they would have their
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: field investigators out there and you would have these reports
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: coming in and they would look at them and uh.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: And I don't have access to the uh, the UH
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: the central system of reporting system anymore at Moufon, but
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: you will probably see a whole lot of those uh
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: you know that basically say that they're uh, you know,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: they're identified as drones or aircraft.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: It's interesting the terminology switch here and from UFO to
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: UAP to now they're just you know, plain old drones.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: And I think that the question comes in where, well,
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: if they know what they are, then why are they
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: not telling the public what they are? Like, what is
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: so secret about these drones? I mean, people know that
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: drones exist and that the military has been using drones
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: for a really long time. So why, in your opinion, Tray,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: is there so much secrecy surrounding what these drones are
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: actually doing. Do you think that they're looking for something?
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Do you think they're scanning the area? Because I had
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: heard this from someone that was taught was giving me
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: this information that they're scanning for a suitcase nuke and
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: like bio genetic material and hazardous material and all that,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: and then I just sat on it and then all
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: of a sudden, that whole entire thing just blew up
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: and everyone was like, this is what it is. They're
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: scanning for biochemical material, some kind of nuke or some
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: kind of nerve agent or whatever. And then I go
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: and then I come home, and then I watched the
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: movie on Netflix called carry On, which is a brand
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: new movie that just came out Friday that essentially depicted
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: the exact same thing.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, there's a couple of things that you know,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: to look at there, and I'm gonna go kind of
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: go back in time, look at a you know some
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: known stuff. Bring it forward is when the US government,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: be the military, you know, three letter agencies or whatever,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: are operating in an airspace. And I'll go back to
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: back in the nineties, if you recall, you had a
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: lot of your Tier one military units, Delta dev grew
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: units like that that would do exercises in urban areas.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: And they'll still do them every once in a while,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: and they will tell the public we're doing military training
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: in the Tampa area. You may see aircraft lying around
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: without lights. This is a planned exercise. Do not be alarmed,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: because they want to try to prevent the kind of
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: panic that we're seeing now. Trying to prevent the kind
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: of panic that would cause people to shoot down an
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: airframe that might land on somebody and injure them or
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: might damage an expensive piece of equipment. So there's precedent
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: for you know, the military of the government notifying people
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: when they have government assets flying over their airspace. I
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: live near a training area and Tier one units come
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: and train here all the time, and every once in
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: a while I'll see blacked out. You know, see one
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: thirty seventeen's black Hawks, various type of airframes fly over
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: my house as they circle around to insert troops into
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: a drop zone not too far from where I live.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: So you know, it's not uncommon. Now, talking about the
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: nuclear bio thing, is a lot of that is now
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: handled by the National Guard by units called units which
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: is chemical, biological, nuclear, see radiological, and energetics. So that's
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: basically your bomb biochemical newt guys, and they have the
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: detection equipment. A lot of times, if you have a big,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: uh thing like the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade, you'll have National
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Guards to Burnie units out there that have their sensor
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: set up, always sniffing, always watching for this stuff. Uh.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: If it's a lost significant piece of nuclear material that
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: is weaponized, there's a thing called the nest or Nuclear
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Emergency Search Team with Department of Energy, and they would
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: be out there with assets not only airborne but via
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: ground assets looking for radiological signatures. Now, one of the
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: things that I heard, based on what you're you know,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: you just kind of alluded to, is not the suitcase
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: new but lost nuclear material. Okay, this is a tritium compass.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: If that becomes law during a military shipman, guess what
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: that's lost nuclear material Because it's tritium, it's radioactive. So,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: you know, people don't realize the amount of radioactive material
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: that's used in everyday commercial things. They're used everything from
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: X raying pipes to make sure that welds solid. They
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: have mobile units where they will X ray high pressure
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: water pipes in the field. Caesium is used and is
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: transported all over this country. Used for medical reasons for
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: the protection or the treatment of cancer and things like that.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: So you know, I'm pretty sure that if there is
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: a nuclear suitcase nuke that people really thought was missing,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: that you know, your local emergency management agency would probably
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: be aware of something going on. And that's the other
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: part of it is the local emas. They're just as
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: in the dark with anybody else. If there was an
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: operation going on and their uh, you know, their jurisdiction,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: you know, they would know about it, they would be
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: brought in on it, and they're just in the dark,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: you know, no pun intended as everybody else and Okham's razor.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: You know that a lot of times, as simple a
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: solution is the accurate solution is they're just misidentification of
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: aircrafts and uh, you know pilots, uh, you know, being
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: naughty and flying around and trying to freak people out.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: I think you're muted.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Uh. One more quarter brings up a really good point here,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: at which I've brought up a couple of times on
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: my show with Ryan Gable the other day on this topic,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: which is this seems very reminiscent of the Chinese spy balloon.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: You remember the Chinese spy ball Oh.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, I uh, we were, you know, we got notice
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: of that balloon, you know, you know, traversing the United States.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Strangely enough, the facility where I was working, we started
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: getting phone calls coming into our office. They're like, oh,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: oh my god, one of them is over our installation,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: and so like, okay, that's crazy. So I go and
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: I grab my binoculars and I'll look up there, and
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: sure not, there's a giant frigging balloon with a technological
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: payload underneath. And so I started doing some research on it.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: And guess what it was an authorized flight by the
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: FAA of a company that is experimenting with bringing broadband
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: to people using high altitude balloons. Those balloons are flying
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: all over the place. You know, they're over us all
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: the time, doing various experiments and proofs of concept and
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: things like that. But if we don't look for them,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: we don't recognize them. Until it becomes an issue. Then
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, balloons are everywhere. In every high
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: school class that had ever launched a high altitude balloon
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: with a camera or a transponder on it, you know,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: every kid doing a science project, every aeronautical school that
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: teaches you know, budding aeron on Michael as aeronautical engineers
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: about you know, how the wind flows and jet streams
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: and all that. Now that's a threat. That's a Chinese balloon. Now,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: they've always been up there. It's the same thing with it.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Lights have always been in the sky.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: That's really how a lot of the Internet is distributed
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: to a lot of parts of the world is through
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: high altitude balloon.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Correct, Yeah, and you know and uh and in some
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: of the places along the coastal US and then on
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: the borders, there's a system called areostat which has a
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: collection plat platform tethered to the bottom. And now it's
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: a tethered balloon, you know, it's more like a like
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: a blimp and it has a side looking airborne radar
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: and other ways to detect people coming in across the
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: border or uh like boats and stuff coming in smuggling things, uh,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: you know into the US. I used to be a
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: really big ship tethered area stat down a Key West
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: when I did some work down there at the Joint
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Caribbean Intelligence Center. So you know, these things are around.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: It's just people go about their day, daily lives and
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: just you don't notice the most of the time.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: So the balloon that you've seen outside of your facility,
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: you're able to zoom in on it and see how
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: it wasn't It wasn't Chinese, It wasn't a Chinese spy blow.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Well, it didn't have like a big picture chairman now
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: on the side of it, right, that would have been
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: a giveaway. Now, you know, I was able to do
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: a little bit of research and buried and you know,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: and open source stuff was you know, this company is
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: testing a concept. They'll be flying over this part of
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: the country and it's like and then you go to
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: flight FR twenty four flight Radar twenty four and it's
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: really a cool program. And I recommend that people go
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: ahead and download it now. It's a free app. Is
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: if you see something in the sky that you're not
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: sure what it is, you launch flight Radar twenty four
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: up in the upper left hand corner. There's a button
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: called AAR. You push that button and your camera comes
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: onto your phone and you just whatever. As you're looking
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: at focus your camera on it, and then down at
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: the bottom it'll tell you what it is. Oh, that's
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: an L ten eleven coming from can Can. Oh that's
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Assessona one s Oh, that's a that's a helicopter with
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: a plane Vanilla transponder code, probably military. And every time
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: you see a strange light in the sky, just look
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: and see what it is. And just for grins and giggles. Uh,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I went outside the other night and uh, you know,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: did it And I was just amazed with the number
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: of aircraft flying around me. I'm gonna see if I
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: can get something to come up here, see if I
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: can get it to work right here with this. Okay,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: here we go, let's see.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Serene one says, how long would a would a
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: balloon last? I think they last for quite some time
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: that year. And you suppose Chinese spibul and was floating
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: around the United States for what a couple of weeks
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: or something.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you can see that now. Of
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: course this is pointing, you know, through through the wall
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: of my building. But where this phone is pointing, that's
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: the aircraft that it's pointing at. Oh wow, And if
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: I rotated around, let's see you and get another one. Yeah,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: there's that one there. There's some other ones around here.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: But what it is basically is you point it at
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: whatever you see, Like right now, I'm looking at a
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: two flights from Nashville to Atlanta to Alexander City and
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: then one from Atlanta to Santa Anna, A seven fifty
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: seven and a Piago P one eight or in this direction.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: So uh, you know, that's kind of the cool thing
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: about this program is if you see flashing lights in
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: the sky and you don't know what they are, well,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: let's just rule out aircraft.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: And that seems like a Pokemon Go app for traffic aircraft.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: It's the exact same thing, you know, got to catch
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: them all.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Got to see all the aircraft. Baby. Yeah, yeah, that's uh,
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: that's a very handy app. Let people know the name
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: of that apple more time.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that is it's called a flight radar light
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: radar two four light.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Radar tube or download that bad boy. Now I have
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: some videos that I have scanned through the Internet, And
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: this is the problem with this kind of event when
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: it happens, is that you get people trying to capitalize
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: off the event and posting old videos and making them
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: seem like they're new videos or just completely fake videos
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: that are trying to capitalize on some of the supposed
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: real ones that people are capturing. So I can't I can't,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: you know, verify if all of the video it's like
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: a compilation video that I that I put together. I
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: can't verify if all of these videos are real craft
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: or that they're even real videos, or that if they're
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: even taken in New Jersey. Because it seems like people
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: are posting from all over the world. They're trying to
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: make this like a worldwide type of thing. They're like,
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: they're they're in Israel, they're in Arizona, they're everywhere. They
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, they came out of a portal
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: in New Jersey and now they're just all over the
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: world all at the same time.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: It's right, they landed in Grover's Mill, New Jersey, and
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: now the tripods are marching across the landscape. So it
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: says worse and wells you know, in the War the World,
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: which was another incident of mass hysteria New Jersey.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: So the video footage I'm about to show you is
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: a compilation that I just threw together last night, and
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: some of it is really unbelievable. So don't get mad
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: at me if any of this stuff is fake or
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: untrue or whatever. I'm just going to give it for
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: people to watch as we're talking about this as something
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: that they can see and get a visual aspect for
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: some of it. But some of it is really interesting,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: and some of it just seems completely outlandish, but it's
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: it's so interesting because.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's red and green flashing lights and a red
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: rotating beacon underside not an aircraft.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't that what? Because you me and you have
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: actually been involved with some skywatching using military grade night
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: vision goggles, and you use infrared goggles and infrared cameras
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: and all that doing your investigations at the meadow. What
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: is it that they say about whenever you see something
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: in the sky and it has blinking or flashing lights
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: when you do.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: I'll give you an example of that. We actually have
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: some footage of a UAP that we took in an
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: area near the meadow. First thing I did is I
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: recorded my exact location. I took my compass out, I
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: shot an asthmth of it, so I knew what the
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: magnetic asthmuth was and I was able to convert that
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: to a true asthmyth. I knew how many degrees above
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: the horizon it was, and I looked for had ten
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: X binoculars. I was able to look and see if
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: I can identify any rotating anti collision lights, red or
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: green lights and anything like that. And then I took
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: the historical data, went back to flight Radar twenty four,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: converted that time to UTC Universal coordinated time, and went
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: back in history for that location to see if there
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: was an aircraft in that direction that I could see
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: from my vantage point. And I couldn't. So that is
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: a unidentified aerial phenomena or unidentified flying object. I'm not
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: saying what it was, It's just I could not identify it.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: I've had other experts look at it, and they also said,
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: you know, we can't tell what this is, but you
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: know what we're lacking on a video like that is
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: where was this taken, what direction was the person facing?
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: You know, what time was it, what day was it?
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's I've always been told to involved with
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: any of these, you know, skywatchers with the military grade
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: night vision go that if something has blinking lights on it, yeah,
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: then it's a it's a it's a plane or a
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: holoicopter or some kind of drone like supposedly a real
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: anomalous phenomenon doesn't have blinking lights on it.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think probably most of the things you see
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: blinking our aircraft until you can research and rule that out,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: which is what we we ended up doing, is our
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: stuff was blinking that we saw, but we could not
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: find an aircraft that uh you know, oh, Hottie Walter,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Uh you know, I didn't see uh, you know, any
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: aircraft that corresponded with it. Uh. Now, what was interesting
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: is when we did that SkyWatch out in Nevada, you know,
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: you and Bob and I, uh, all the stuff that
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: and I'm not going to name the name, but the
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: person that said, oh, well that's a sad, that's a
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: you know, that's a secret space program. You know commandol
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: and you know that's you know, yeah, those are satellites. Okay,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: the sky is of satellites. And if you sit there
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: and you know, you saw the equipment that Bob and
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: I were using and the other equipment is you know,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: you look up there with the enhanced night vision and
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: once again you don't notice all the satellites in the
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: sky until you notice them.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's that's kind of like a rule with using
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: military grade night vision goggles in any kind of SkyWatch
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: that if something is blinking, that has blinking lights on it,
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: then it's a terrestrial vehicle. It's an airplane, it's a helicopter,
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: it's a drone or something like that. And it seems
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: to be almost all of the footage from New Jersey
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: there's blinking lights on all of the craft. Yeah, what's
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: going on, Walter? Thanks for being here, brother. Yeah, so
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: we were just talking about you earlier, Walter. Good things,
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: nothing but good things.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: One no idea, said our common friend. I didn't mention
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: any names. But if you notice on this thing is
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: you know, if you see in the upper light it's red,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: the lower light is green, in the light in front
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: is white. So that's your that's your red and green
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: navigation lights with a position light up front of the
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: white position light. Okay, now let me look at this
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: one right here.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: This one is really strange. Like again, I don't know
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: if this footage is real. I don't know if any
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: of this footage even comes from New Jersey. I just
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: scrolled through the social media. You clipped all this stuff together,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: so I really have no idea. I just brought it
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: on here so that we can take a work at it.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: This one's weird.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: That's kind of weird.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: If it's real, it's pretty weird.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the lighting configuration does not look like it does
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: not look like an aircraft. Now, I remember I did
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: say I think half a percent of these things, zero
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: point five percent can't be explained. And you know as
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: well as I do, there are UAPs out there because
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: I've seen them. Ah, but it's a very small number.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: And I think even Walter and I talked about this
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: on another thing, about ninety five percent of UAPs or
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: you're either acknowledge you're not like deerframes, you know, I
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: think that you know, that's probably a pretty good, uh
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: pretty good percentage. Okay, here's one.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: That is like a swarm of these these drones. This
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: is the one that I don't know if it's real
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: or not. It's definitely interesting.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that one, that one's that had a flashing light.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: One of them looked like a bull lighter or meteor.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Now these ones are kind of interesting here because, yeah,
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: like what's commonly known as the t R three b
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: R three. Yeah, yeah, the military triangular craft that has
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: this this kind of exhaust type of port in the
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: center of the.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Center, lights on the corners.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's uh, that's always a really interesting one.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: And you know one thing I will tell folks is DARPA,
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: uh and the Air Force and other agencies have some
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: amazing technology out there that would just absolutely blow your mind.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: And uh, you know, at times sometimes they have to
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: do a proof of concept and shakedowns of this technology,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: which involves flying over airspace when they can be seen.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: So that might be what we're seeing here, or it
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: might be something new, unworldly. I don't know.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, people don't realize how powerful and how secret DARPA is.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: I think DARPA is actually responsible for a lot more
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: than we are blaming on a lot of these other
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: organizations and a lot of these other intelligence communities. Would
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: you agree with that?
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would. I mean, you know, they're developing a
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: lot of really cool stuff. You know, some stuff's kind
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: of mundane, boring stuff, and some stuff is really cool
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: and swoopy. And you know, I always talk about this, uh.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: You know. This example is the F one seventeen stealth
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: fighter was developed back in the seventies, you know, and
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: it was an operational asset with the forty four to
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: fiftieth Fighter Squadron, and they flew operational F one seventeens
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: for years in the seventies and into the eighties at night.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: They only flew them at night, and their cover was
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: as they were a Skyhawk squadron that flew Skyhawk aircraft.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: That's what they flew during the day as their cover.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: But they flew the F one seventeenth at night on
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: operational missions. And then in nineteen ninety one ish during
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: desert storm, the F one seventeen finally became polic but
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: it was operational for years. So if you go all
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: the way back to the Have Blue Technology Demonstrator, which
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: preceded the F one seventeen, it was flying even further
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: back than that as a proof of concept. So yeah,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: these things are you know, flying around. You have air
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: spaces that are traditionally used for testing these type of aircraft.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: You know, Nellis Air Force Base, you know, the infamous
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: area fifty one topinhah Dougway proving grounds, you know, and
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: some other stuff. So and the course, the military, you
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: know and dark are doing a lot of experiments and
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: a lot of testing and a lot of development with drones.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: You know, all we have to do is look at
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: Ukraine on how drones are such an incredible force multiplier
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: in fifth generation warfare.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: I agree absolutely. I think Darpen needs to be investigated
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: a lot more and not be so secret. Yeah, this
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: one is highly interesting. And then it's just one of
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: the things just kind of you know, they just kind
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: of dissipate a little bit there on the left side.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: But this is a classic configuration of what is a
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: known military aircraft, which is a TR three B, which
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: also could be droned up as well in some form
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: of unmanned aircraft, or it could be a manned aircraft. Now,
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: this footage is a little shaky because as he puts
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: his camera down and then he lifts his camera back
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: up and then there's one right here to the left,
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: this right here by the tree line. That's maybe this
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: kind of a lot closer to him than the one
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: that looked like a triangle in the tree line. And
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: if we're here in the actual audio of this, he's
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: kind of freaking out. But I don't want to play
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: the audio because of you know, copyright stuff. But he
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: sees this this like right really close to him, like
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: just hovering above this tree line. It's kind of hard
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: to see like see it.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's now that one. I'm you know, I
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: don't know for sure what that is or isn't. Uh,
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: what you have to be careful with is when you're
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: looking at something in the sky. Yeah, that I don't know.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: That's an interesting one.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: Again, I don't I don't know any of these are real.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: If they're not real, I just scanned through social media
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: and found some of the ones that claim that they're
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: from New Jersey, and I put them all together, so
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: like it did. I'm just giving you that disclaimer. Yeah,
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: that ran out of the gate. You know.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: An estimation of size and distance, especially at night, that's
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: something we have to be really careful about. And I'll
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: give everybody kind of a kind of an example. They
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: can understand. If you are driving along a road late
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: at night and it's dark, pitch black, and you have
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: either a motorcycle or a vehicle with only one operational
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: headlight coming towards you, what's the distance of that vehicle? Well, yeah,
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: it would be kind of difficult to determine, right, Yeah,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: you have no idea because you have no frame of reference.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: It's just a light in the dark. And a lot
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: of these things are lights in the dark. Oh, it
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: was the size of a car. What was there a
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: car flying up there next to it that you could
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: compare it to, you know, did it seem closer? You know? Oh,
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: well it stood still in the sky. Are you on
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: the approach lanes into a busy airport like Newark and
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: an aircraft after approaching the airport will appear to be
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: standing still, or an airplane coming towards you will appear
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: to be standing still.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: Isn't there a term for that that the air Force
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: uses with their pilots. I think there's a term for
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: something like that to measure distance between like different craft.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: And yeah, he's like that, I can't remember that. I
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: can't remember the name of the term. I think doctor
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: David Morehouse was talking about that one of the times
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: I had him on.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can use trigonometry if you know where
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: you are and you know the angle you know, above
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: the horizon, and you know the distance to it, so
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: you can figure out where it is, and you know,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: you can do a lot of things. Or if there's
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: some sort of known standard of like distance between your
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: position lights, you know, your red and green position lights
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: or things like that, you can determine the size. But
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: you know, for and I'm not a trained aircraft observer,
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: but you know, for someone that is, that might be
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: a little bit easier. But you know, to the untrained
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: average joe up there that just happen to look up
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: and see something, I think it's really hard to determine distance.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be any good at it because that's not
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: really what I'm what I'm used to.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we've got some more footage here. This one.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: This one looks like a but again you can't really
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: tell how far away it is, but it looks like
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: one of those like regular drones that you give from
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: best Buy. This is supposedly something is leaking out of
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: this drone in this the stream that's coming out of
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: the drone is something that's leaking or letting fall out
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: of the drone, is what they claim in the video.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: It's kind of difficult to see, but yeah, these people
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: are there. They're just you know, waving their freaking phone
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: around everywhere. Yeah, this is more time lapse footage of
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: the drink.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: Is high altitude aircraft. Yeah, Like I tell you know,
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: tell you a listener, just go out in the sky
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: after this broadcast and just look up and see how
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: many high altitude aircraft you see, you know, flying around.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: There's a lot more than you think. And especially if
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: they've now downloaded flight Radar twenty four, they can say, well,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: that's an L ten eleven, that's a seven thirty seven,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: that's a you know, air bus, and uh, you know,
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: maybe we can start putting some of this stuff to bed.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: It is kind of strange though, as how many of
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: them there are, though, Like, would you really want to
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: be having all of these drones flying in the same
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: area so clustered together.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's the weird one there. And they seem
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: to all headed in the same direction like that, maybe
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: they all want to same have the same purpose. Maybe.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, you know, that's the whole purpose of
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: like air traffic control with like planes. You don't want
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: planes all up at the up at the same time,
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: because they're gonna collide and run in with you, run
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: into each other. But this one is really just kind
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: of a cool one, pretty strange. Yeah, they just kind
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: of seem to be gliding along and like littered all
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: over the sky.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: But then some people can say that these are that
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: this is like lens flares or like it's Lynn flairs.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: You know, I would you know, I'd really kind of
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: need to really figure out where that is. They don't
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: particularly look like lens flairs to me, but you know,
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: I would need a lot more information to try to
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: start maybe digging into this. But it looks, you know,
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: on the face, it looks pretty odd.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just kind of even when the cameras like
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: semi still, they're still moving around.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: Kind of dancing around. Yeah, I do know, and I'm
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: not I'm not saying that's what this is. Don't don't
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: hear what I'm not saying. But I do know I
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: have noticed if I'm out, you know, stargazing, and I've
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: got like a cloud cover that I can't necessarily see.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: You know, maybe it's dark and I don't see the clouds,
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: and as the clouds move across the starfield, I'll see
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: you know, stars wink in and out, and you know,
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: it looks like they're doing all these weird things. As
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: the clouds you'll block my vision and then I get
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: you know, openings to see the stars and all. So
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's why that is, but I know
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: that can be kind of a weird, uh, kind of
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: a weird effect.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it kind of seems like those things that you
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: would buy for your like your kid or something like
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: that they have now like Target or Walmart or something
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: where it has like the little it's kind of like
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: the thing that I got behind me. But if it
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: was like for like constellations that projects onto the wall
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: or onto the ceiling or whatever, it's what it can. Yeah,
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: so what it kind of looks.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Like, well, you know, and then we have the blue
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: Operation Blue Beam stuff, you know with the projected holograms
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: and yeah, you know, it's there's a lot of questionable
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: information out there. I'll just be nice and say that.
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: Do you think that maybe this is like a way
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: for them to sort of reveal that a majority of
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: this is all of our technology, like because they all
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: right and came on and says that it's all drones. Right.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: They didn't even go the anomalous unidentified aerial or phenomenon
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: at all. They went straight to drones. Do you think
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: that maybe this is an event for to get the
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: public more used to the idea that maybe the things
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: that they're seeing in the sky is really our craft
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: and like man made human technology.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, isn't that what they've been trying to
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: do ever since, you know, Project Grudge and Project blue Book.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: You know, is these are weather balloons? You know, these
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: are you know, natural phenomena. You're you're looking at the
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: planet Venus, and I think a majority of it probably is.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: But like you know, jaylen Heik said, is you have
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: this this huge amount of you know, sightings and encounters
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: that can be explained, you know when you really start
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: putting the scrutiny on them. But there's this tiny bit
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: and I think he quoted correct me if I'm wrong
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: ten percent that he had no explanation for you know,
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: he absolutely could not figure it out. So you know,
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: it seems like this has always been poopooed by the uh,
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: you know, poo pooed by the government for a long time.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: You know. I was talking about my friend who was
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: actually at the hearing you know, last month, uh there
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: at the Capitol and the UAP stuff. And what I'm
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: trying to get him to do is get me in
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: with one of our Congress critters. And what I would
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: like to do and propose is the security managers and
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: program security officers and program managers of these special access
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: programs that involve airframes, things moving around the sky or
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: things being projected into the sky, is the security manager's
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: a program security officers and security specialists that are experts
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: in derivative classification can take the documents called security Classification
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: Guides for these programs and really look at these things
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: with a crucial eye and see what can be declassified.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: Because I can guarantee you there's a lot of stuff
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: that can be declassified if people take the time to
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: do it. But it's a lot of work. I mean,
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: it's a tremendous amount of work, and a lot of
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: people are overworked and really busy, and they take the
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: easy way out, so they take last you have to
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: update a Security Classification Guide every five years is they
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: take you know, the last SEG, last security classification guy,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: just redate it, sign it and send it on and
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: they don't really take the time to look down, you know,
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: through the stuff that's been classified and say, okay, well
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: there's no longer a reason for this to be classified.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: We can declassify that. We have airframes that are large,
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: you know, fifty yards fifty meters in diameter that can
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: sustain stationary flight without emitting any heat or audible signatures.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Maybe we can declassify that. Then your TR three thing
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: is like, oh okay, well maybe that's one of those airframes.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: And so what I hope to propose, you know, if
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: I can ever get a get my foot in the
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: door to Congress, is you set up a panel that's
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: right into these programs that can really start sifting through
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: this and determined what needs to be kept secret and
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: let the public know on everything else. And I think
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: it would clear a lot of this stuff up.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: Do these drones that you're aware of trade like the
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: one that you are pictured here with in Afghanistan? Do
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: these drones make noise? Do they admit a loud noise?
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah? That one has a propeller on the back of it.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: But we would see those things flying around the sky
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: and I actually got a chance to sit in on
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: an operational mission where one of these things was watching.
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: It was a bunch of troops on motorcycles and ATVs
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: that were basically paralleling one of our convoys. And the thought,
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: the concern was that they were Taliban that were getting
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: ready to attack the convoy and right before the uh,
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: the system the Predator was about to launch some scunion
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: on them. Because it was they were in radio contact
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: with an A ten is they were able to squawk
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: I f F you it was some Special Forces guys
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: that were operating in that area on ATVs, so they
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: were able to squawk identification friend or fro I FF
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: and so you know, the A ten vectored. Often nothing happened.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: But this thing was flying so high, this Predator sky
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: Warrior is uh, they could not hear it. You know,
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: it flew at such an altitude that actually, uh, right here,
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: this flag was actually put on one of those drones
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: and flown from me in Afghanistan. I was actually put
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: inside of the airframe and flew on a mission. So
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: you know, we but they flew so high that you know,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: you didn't know they were there. The only time you
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: really knew they were there is when they would come
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: in for a landing.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: What year was this photo taken?
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: That was in two thousand and nine.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: How how more advanced do you think that these drones have,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: Like how many leaps and bounds do you think that
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: they've gotten Because there's been several people in the child
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: here that saying that these drones are like just completely stationary. Yeah,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: yet they're just hovering there. Do you think that we
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: would be able to have that capability now for the
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: drone just to hover in place for a long period
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: of time.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, they had drones now that our fixed wing they'll fly,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: you know, like an airplane, and then when they get
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: to their position, they'll rotate their wings up and they'll hover.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: You know, they'll fly using a you know, a wing
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: for efficiency, and then when they get to where they
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: need to loiter, they'll hover. You know. This this stupid thing,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: you know, and this isn't a cheap droan. It's by
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: no means one you buy a Walmart. But that technology
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: was like science fiction back in the eighties, you know,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: and that's something that I can buy off of Amazon,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: so you know, it's yes, there are drones that can
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: you know, lock into a you know, a solid location
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: and loiter over a target of location or whatever. I'm
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: not going to say indefinitely, but for a very long time.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: And that now, now you can get really really funky
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: if you start talking about remote piloted area STATS, which
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: are blimps that have four propellers on them that can
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: fly to a location lock on. Now they're drones, there's
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: no pilot and then they can rotate their propellers and
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: props keep the thing stationary and it just hangs over
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: location and it lasts a very long time because the
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: majority of the lift is coming from the air bag,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: the you know, the the helium and all the rotors
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: do is really just kind of keep it in a
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: position it can loiter for you know, for a long time. Now,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: if you take that and you combine it with a
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: solar power, maybe a solar ray on the outside of
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: the envelope maybe and definitely, So yeah, there's all kinds
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: of stuff out there.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was gonna be My next question is how
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: are the drones that you're aware of, like this one
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: with you in Afghanistan from two thousand and nine. Well,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: what are these drones being powered by? Or these gas
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: drones or like, because there's the of course, the theory
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: that this is a foreign thread and then then there's
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: a mother ship placed off of the east coast and
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: they're sending these drones in. But other people have said, well,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: if these really are drones, they wouldn't have enough fuel
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: or whatever it is that they're powered on in order
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: to get to New Jersey and then get all the
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: way and stay there for a long time and then
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: get all the way back to the mothership without yeah,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: you know, right fuel.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm trying to think what the latest and
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: greatest one is that's publicly acknowledge. I think is the
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: MQ nine Reaper. I think that might be right, And
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: forgive me if I get my nomenclater along. But basically
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: it's a large, huge drone powered by a turbo fan
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: and you know, it can fly thousands of thousands of
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: miles and water over a target for you know a
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: period of time and come back. You know what really
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: gets interesting is, you know some of the drones flown
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: over there in Afghanistan were actually piloted by pilots back
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: here in the States. Is they were you know, at
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: the various airfields be a Bogram or Kandahar or wherever,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: and they would actually be launched, but the operators were
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: actually back in the States. So you know, it's uh,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: you know, it's really really interesting. And like I said,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: and we just saw a video that came out I
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: think today or yesterday where the Ukrainian intelligence is taking
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: small sport aircraft, which is that that level of aircraft
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: between you know, regular type airplanes like Cesstenas and stuff
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: and uh hanglo and things like that powered you know,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: things like that. It's kind of right in the middle.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: I think it's called a sport class. Is they're taking
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: aircraft like that, putting in a servos and everything to
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: fly it remotely, packing it with explosives. And they just
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: attacked a police station in Grosny and flew this airplane
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: literally right into the police station and blew the whole
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: thing up. So that's that's how fast you know, it's developing.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: Just using Cotts their commercial off the shelf technology. Now
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: you know, you start getting into some of the hiering
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: technology that we might not be aware of. No pun
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: intended but the sky's a limit, and I think you
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: might be muted again, a writer. You're muted.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: Dang, it got me muted due it speaks, It speaks
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: one more time. Give me a game, dude. No, I
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: think that it's.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: I lost my train of thought because I'm just going
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: on and on and on now I don't even remember
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: what I said. I think that it's a possibility that
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: these that these are our craft, our military technology, and
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: Trump is saying that they are, that the military knows
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: what they are, but there for some reason, they're not
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: saying what they are. And for me, it kind of
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: you know, reeks of this this telltale sign of well,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: some kind of event in the future that they're kind
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: of setting up for, like right now, because we know
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: that they love to plan ahead, way way far in
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: the future. You know, we're thinking about tomorrow, we're thinking
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: about next week or next month. These people are thinking
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: about decades in the future and what's going to happen
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: decades in the future. And it feels like that we're
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: getting some kind of set up for this kind of
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: stuff now, and it just in a few weeks it's
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: going to completely go away. And then something else is
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: going to pop up. It's exactly like with you know,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty and the setup for everything surrounding twenty twenty
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: and how many of these you know, viruses and diseases
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: that we were pre prepared for before twenty twenty happened.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: It seems like that this is what they're kind of
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: doing with this this UFO and UAP stuff and these drones,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: is they're setting something up for further along in the
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: future so that they can get people prepared and like
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: interested in this what's going on now, so then whenever
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: the event actually happens, it's more accepted than it would
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: be if the event just you know what I mean.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: You know. The crazy thing about that is, and I
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: remember having a discussion with the Lieutenant colonel back when
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: it first came out. But you remember when the Go
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: Fast and the gimbal and the tik tak videos it
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: came out and the d O d uh said, yes,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: they are real. You know, these are objects that were
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: tracked by you know, our pilots on various airframes that
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: were flying in non ballistic ways. You know, the trained
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: naval aviators, which you know a lot of them had
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: degrees in aeronautical engineering could not identify the means of propulsion,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: you know, the means of control or anything like that.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: That was earth shattering in my opinion. How many people
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: in the public really even seem to care. Not many, okay,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: but now, but now we've got airplanes being sited over
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: New Jersey and everybody's going crazy. So it kind of
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: makes me wonder, you know, when the truth, the truth,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: whatever that is, finally comes out, is it going to
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: be ho hum? But I do get a sense, you know,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: and this is just a sense. This isn't anything official.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: I don't have any knowledge, but it seems like we're
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to use a word desensitize. That's probably
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: too strong of a word, but maybe inoculated to this
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: high strangeness. So when it finally does come out or
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: finally is released, or if they ever listen to me
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: and actually sit down and start declassifying some of this
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: UAP stuff that can be released, that the public will say, eh,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, we kind of knew that all along.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what That's been my point about the moon
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: landing stuff as well, Like if the if finally we
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: got some kind of revelation or some kind of documentation
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: finally came out that the moon landing footage was one fake, Like,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: what people care? Would people care at that point because
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: there's such a large group of people that already believe
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: that at least the footage of the moon landing is fake.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: Now there's a whole separate group of people that believe
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: that we never even went at all. But that's different
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: than But that's different. There's something completely different than believing
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: that the footage is fake. The footage can be fake
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: and we still went to the moon. You know, the
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: footage is just you know, there's a lot of reasons
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: why they could have faked the footage. There's actually a
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: movie coming out here really soon that's all about that,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: where they shot the faking of the moon landing so
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: they can at least give the perceived idea that we
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: went so that we can be ahead of Russia. So
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: I guess that's my point is that, like eventually, when
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: this stuff comes out and people really do get the truth,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: there's such a large gap in between when the event
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: happens and whenever we get the actual, factual truth, and
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: by that time that we get the real truth, no
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: one cares anymore.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: Well, something near and dear to your heart. You know,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: if you know President ELECTROUMP, does you know, follow up
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: on what he said about d class of fine and
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: putting all of the data out there about the Kennedy
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: assassination or supposed Kennedy assassination. You know, when it comes out,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: are people going to say, eh, you know, what are
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: the Kardashians doing, you know, you know, or what's the
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: latest song? You know, you know rap song in the
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: top you know, top ten, you know, but there's going
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: to be a very small segment of the population that's
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: really going to be like, you know, all your jim
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: Maher's devotees and all these really excited about it. Ah.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: But you know, are people going to care because that
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: was so long ago? I mean that happened. You know,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: I turned sixty this week and that happened before I
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: was born. So you know how relevant is that?
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: Something really interesting about the JFK assassination? Which is this
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: vanity fair or Yeah, that that just came out recently
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: that says why JFK staged his own murder and a
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: James Bond inspired spy film two months before his assassination.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I read, I read that You're really that's very strange,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: and it's it's really yeah, it's struck me. The part,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: you know, the part of that kind of it just
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: kind of creeped me out is you know where they
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: talked about you know, Jackie was you know, the director,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: and they were filming it, and they came in and
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: there was you know, you know JFK laying there with
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: you know, ketchup on them, you know, pretending like he
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: was dead on the floor, and then they went out
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: and did the assassination scene on the dock and all,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: you know, if you're the sitting potus, that just seems
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: creepy as hell to me. I mean, it just seems
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: really weird to even joke about something like that because
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: it's not like, you know, assassinations of the president, you know,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: weren't known. There have been several, i think three previous
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: presidents assassinated, So why would you joke about something like that.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: That seems very you know, on the the the worst
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: case scenario is it was you know, all uh, you know,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: uh getting prepared for the ultimate cover up. That's like
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: you talked about in JFK X. That's the worst case scenario.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: The best case scenario is they were just being macab
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: as hell, and neither one of those reasons really just
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: sits well with me.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was really shocked when I read that article
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: and Jay had sent it to me. I was like, Wow,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: I cannot believe this. And it seems like that it
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: was a trial run. Yeah, this seems there's a trial
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: run because I have a two months directly two months
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: before the supposed to real assensin issue with the same
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: secret Service agents that were also there November twenty second,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: nineteen sixty three of those supposed in Dalley Plaza.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, and they said, oh, hey, secret service
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: agents protect a service detail. Hey, we want you to
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: play along, So we want you to like drive up
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: like you're really excited and compiling out of your car
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: and run.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: Around and pretend you heard gunshots. That's what Jackie told them.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: Right in, any professional protective service agent would say, you
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: know what, that's not my job. My job is to
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: protect the potus and that detracts from my job, So no,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: thank you. It's it's that's the creepy story. It's very weird,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: you know, And I'm still when I read it, I'm like,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: it's gonna take me a lot of kind of sit
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: and maull of this over kind of really come up
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: with what I feel because it's it's it's uncanny. The
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: story is very uncanny.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: And very similar to our documentary jfk X.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: Is right when I when I read the thing about
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: the catchup and all I thought that they talked about
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: a squid pack. I mean, you know, it's almost exactly
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: the same.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: But I'm your feelings about it is the same feelings
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: that a lot of people that I've sent it to
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: there that's also watched our movie jfk X, that they're
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: they're feeling the exact same way. They don't really even
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: have words to describe exactly what's going on. I was
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: just on my friend Ryan Gables show today and that's
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: what we were talking about. It was like, well, how
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: do you how do we even know? Like I don't
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: even have the words to describe what I feel or
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: how I even feel about this, and had watched my
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: movie before that article came out.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's just weird. It's just really like
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: I you know, I'm not I'm not a superstitious guy,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: but I wouldn't go film a movie about the assassination
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: of Trey Hudson because I just think that's kind of
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  Speaker 1: ma cob and weird. But you know here they were
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  Speaker 1: doing it, you know, out there frolicking next to the seashore.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so wild. There's so there's this program that's
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: called Project Convergence, that is a program from the United States,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: the UK and Australia. I have the which is AI
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: test powered drone swarms and groundbreaking military exercise and this
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: was this article came out in August thirteenth, twenty twenty four,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: which is Artificial Intelligence Australia, California, drone technology drones, United Kingdom,
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  Speaker 2: in the United States. And this is what the drone
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: which looks very similar to the drone that you're depicted
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: by with Afghanistan. And these these drones are equipped with
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: artificial intelligence capabilities and that would explain how because the
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: reports at in New Jersey are that they go dark,
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: like whenever something gets close to them. They just kind
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: of like power down and turn off all of their lights. Well,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: if this wasn't AI artificial intelligence type of drone, whenever
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: they would sense something coming close to them, they would
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: go dark, right, they would turn off their lights are
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: you familiar with if the military is using these AI
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: powered I mean, obviously there they are. This is a
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: real article, But were you familiar with this at all,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: like the artificial intelligent drones?
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: Not officially, I can surmise, you know, if we're using
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  Speaker 1: AI to create drone swarms that make the face of
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: Uncle Sam in the sky on the fourth of July,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: I can guarantee the military is probably using a very
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: similar technology for other things. And if we take that
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: one step further, you know, as a reference, the New
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: Jersey thing is the military and the government are working
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: on a lot of anti drone technologies. I hope to
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: be able to get to see some of those technologies
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: here next year. I might be able to weasel my
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: way into an invite to see some of that technology.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: But what if this is I'm just I don't know.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: What if What if the military or the government developed
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: anti drone technology that was based on a kinetic kill.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: I e. You had a counter drone that flew around
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: that kind of lurked around looking for other drones, and
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: it would fly up close to it and shoot out
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: an item, you maybe something the size of a cue
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: ball that would hit it knock that drone out of
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: the sky, So it would get close to it, you know,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: within maybe half a mile of its target, it would
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: black out, fly up, shoot a cube ball, or you
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: know some other inner kinetic device, knock that out of
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: the sky, and then go back to its patrol position
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: and loiter or fly its patrol pattern. So is it
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: a stretch of the imagination that there are counter drone
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: drones that have been put up by the government to
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: maybe start either investigating or engaging with some of these
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: other things, especially if they're over sensitive airspace like this
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: dude I talked about, Michael b that flew his drone
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: into Picatinny. He sees a drone might have been a
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: government drone, flies up to it, it shoots an electromagnetic
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: weapon at it fries out the electronics of that drone,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: and it drops. Now he's in trouble. So I'm not
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  Speaker 1: saying that's what there is, But as a thought experiment,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: does that not make sense? That would that not be
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: an intelligent way to go about developing a certain part
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: of your counter grown capabilities.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: Well, China also has their own drone aerial drone clusters
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: for swarm attacks as well as scientists claim new drone
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: can split into multiple units while airborne, giving China attack
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: a new tactical edge and drone swarm warfare.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: I'm not confirming, confirming or denying that the technology is
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: being used in New Jersey, but wouldn't it be interesting
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: if it was.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: Chinese scientists have developed a new type of wardrone that
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: can rapidly multiply mid air, a tactical shock, and all
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: phenomenon against potential adversaries like the US and South China.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: Morning Post reported the new drone is similar to a
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: consumer grade Chinese Ji multi roter, which can split into two, three,
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: or six smaller drones depending on battle needs. Yeah, does
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: that not seem similar to what's going on?
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, And that's open source, you know, that's that's
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: you know, the Chinese have allowed that information to be
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: put out, so you know what's not being put out.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: So I think, you know, it's probably a combination of
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: all this. Now, remember when I at the beginning of
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: the conversation, I said authorized airframes be a manned or unmanned,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: and counter drone airframes flying by the government would be
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: authorized airframes. You know, they're not enemy, they're not you
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: know our buddies from Zeta Reticuli. They're authorized unmanned airframes
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: flying in this airspace. So you know, if you look
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: at what, you know, what the DD came out and
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: publicly said, it's like, okay, that kind of if you
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: listen to what they say and really listen to the words,
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: that makes sense. You know, that would fit into what
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: they were saying and in their statements would be a
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: truthful statement.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which makes sense with this article with the US
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: in the UK and Australia doing this, all being together,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: this to test their AI powered drone swarms.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: Now, scoot the photograph down just a little bit and
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: I want you to notice something. If you notice that
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: these drones have two sets of rotors. They have horizontal
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: rotors you can see up near the nose that's for
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: level loitering flight. And then they have looks like propellers
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: near the rear or flight forward, so they would use
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: wings to create lift to conserve fuel as they're flying forward,
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: and then they would convert into you know, loitering drones
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: like a quad chopper and could hover.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: This does seem very reminiscent of some sort of military
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: exercise exactly like what this article states, and that's a
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: common thread throughout many events that there's always this type
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: of military exercise that's going on right around the same
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: time that a real event happens. You know, that's like common.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: That happened with nine to eleven, and happened with the
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: Boston Marathon bombing, and like so many events, there's a
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: military exercises happening during the exact same time that the
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: event is happening. In the military exercise is to prevent
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: the real thing from happening.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't see it here, but up on my wall.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: I've got my patch wall where you know, people give
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: me things, and one of them is a tab that's
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: ode green with black writing and it says Jade Hilm.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: And I'm just I'm just going to say, somebody gave
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: that to me, So you know, take that for what
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: it's worth.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: What do you think that was? Do you think that
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: Jade home? That was a military exercise?
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a military exersise. I think it was
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: nothing nefarious. I think you know, we run military exercises
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: all the time. I know, you know, when I was
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: working with you know, some of the logistical units here
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: in the Continental US is they would do exercises to
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: move huge logistical packages. You know, I'm talking like you know,
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: hundreds of tanks you know, or something like that. And
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: they would practice moving these things from the West coast
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: to the East coast, you know, and they would bring
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: in military units that would put these things on the railcar.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: You know, they would move them across country and then
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: they would meet them at their at their endpoint, take
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: them off, you know, bring them into you know, operation
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: you fuel them, get them ready to go, to make
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: sure that that capability existed. Or they would see if
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: you can we get assets from the west coast to
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: our prepositionships on the east coast. And so they would
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: practice this stuff and you would see military uh you know,
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: military shipments moving you know via rail and over the road.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: He know, every once in a while you'll run across
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: a military convoy with heavy combat vehicles on it, you know,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: strikers and things like that. And it's not like, oh,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: you know, they're getting ready to invade, you know, the
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: US set up the FEMA concentration camps. No, they're practicing
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: moving assets around. And that's how we keep sharp, you know,
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: in d od Is by continuously exercising, and the best
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: way to exercise is to actually do it.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: Well, Trey, you don't believe that there were they were
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: transporting thousands of coffins like what was reported and the etines.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: Do you remember when they said that they were transporting guillotines.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: There there was a horrible, horrible.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: Regime and group of people that made extreminating human beings
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: an industrial exercise and they did not use guillotines. So
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: if I was going to execute thousands and millions of
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: American citizens, the guillotine is not the most effective way
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: to do it. Unfortunately, those tests have already been done
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: in Germany, poll and Romanian places like that, So that
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: was it was kind of stupid. And the pictures of
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: the coffins, it's like, wow, those look a lot like
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: subterranean septic systems to me, but you know, what do
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: I know? And uh, it was it was pretty funny.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: And then of course, uh I remember I saw a
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: some photographs on the Internet of a concentration camp. It
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: was a training site that US Army military policemen used
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: to set up enemy pow camps, so they they had
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: practice on how to set up a camp how to
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: man it, how what the guard towers would look like.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: So the units that are responsible for a for correct
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: not corrections, but you know, for containment of enemy POWs
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: actually could get some experience running a you know, enemy
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: pow camp. And that's how it was. It was an
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: unused training site. You know, the military has all kinds
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: of training sites that looked like cities and mountains and
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: you know, tunnels, and.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: Because they have to train for all territory, right, so
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: you're gonna have them in the mountains, you're gonna have
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: them in the desert, You're gonna have them in multiple
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: trains of weather. You're going to have them all over
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: the place. But that that type of story doesn't sell.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's not sexy. You know. I was telling
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: you sometimes people are more interested in the sizzle than
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: in the steak. You know, they'd rather, you know, really
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: focus on you know, the steaks smelling good and sounding
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: good than actually sitting down and eating it. They're more
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: interested in the you know, the the overwhelming sensation than
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: actually enjoying the meal.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: I agree, Trey, and that's why I like you, and
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: that's why I brought you on again. And thank you
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: very much for coming on. My friend really appreciate it
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: as a wonderful conversation, and I think that we did
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: a pretty good job talking about these these drones. And
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: regardless of what you believe, whether you believe that it's
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: some sort of fake alien invasion Project Blue Beams set up,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: which I don't think is out of the realm of possibility,
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: it could be quite possible that some event in the
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: future happens surrounding these types of things, and then we
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: have to kind of fight off the external threat in
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: order to reveal our technology. And there's there's a couple
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: of ways that they can go with that. They can
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: either go that direction and say that there are these,
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: you know, this external threat that's coming down, so then
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: we've got to create this technology in order to defend
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: ourselves from this threat, all the while it's actually our technology,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: and we're actually defeating ourselves or taking down our own
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: technology in order to reveal that it's all our technology.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: Or they can go the route, which it seems that
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: they're also kind of leaning into, is kind of coming
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: out and displaying that a lot of the stuff that
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: we may be seeing is drone technology. It already is
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: our craft. And that could be this could be like
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: a solf disclosure of you know that this isn't extraterrestrial
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: alien technology. This is our craft and that's the reason
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: why we're not telling you exactly what it is. And
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: they maybe they you know, by not seeing anything about it,
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: that they're ultimately saying exactly what it is.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you say things by not saying them absolutely.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: Thanks so much for coming on tray. Can you let
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: people know where to find you and where they can
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: purchase your book that you have out and when the
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: new book is going to come out in any projects
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: that you have lined ot.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the best place to find me is if you
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: want to engage directly as a Tree Hudson Dash author
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: on our Facebook. My web page is www dot Trey
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: Hudson research dot com. My book The Metal Project is
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: out on Amazon and pretty much any format you own.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: It's even out there in French if you parlay Bouffon say,
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: my upcoming projects is I have a project that is
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: coming out in January. It's a film about cryptid research
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: and the Land between the Lakes, but the filmmakers encounter
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: some really weird stuff out there, so they reach out
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: to a guy named Trey Hudson and want to visit
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: the meadow to see if they can understand some of
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: the highest strainings they encountered. And boy, they encountered some
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: high strainedness in the meadow, which was captured on film.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: So that comes out. The premiere will be in January. Unfortunately,
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know what platforms it's going to be, uh,
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: you know, be shown on. As soon as I know,
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: I'll get that information out. And then there's another Uh.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think what I can disclose. There's another
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: project that many people, if they've been following my research,
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: will be interested in. We wrapped up primary filming last month.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: It's in post production, so hopefully I'll be able to
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: disclose some information out there. When I'm able to disclose this,
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: there'll be some other than myself. There'll be some names
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: that are very familiar to everybody. So that should be
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: a lot of fun. And it was a great experience.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: We captured some really neat stuff on that. So my
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: second book, if I can get people to leave me
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: alone so I can sit down and finish writing it.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: I'm about probably seventy five to eighty percent done with that.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: It should be uh, it should be pretty cool. I'm
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: looking forward to it. So what is that going to
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: be about? Is that going to be a face up
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: to the Metal Project? It's basically a follow up to
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: the Metal Projects everything we've done from the end of
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: the first book to now. One of the cool things
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: is we brought a hypnotherapist and psychotherapist onto our team
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: on our staff ASOG staff, So we actually are taking
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: some of the some of the members of a SOOG
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: and doing hypnotic regression. You know, you're thinking, you know,
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: like Bud Hopkins, stuff like that, John Mack and some
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: of the revelations are breathtaking, just absolutely stunning. So those
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: are going to be in the book. So I hope
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: to get it written, you know, sometime in twenty twenty five,
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: get it wrapped up, get it to get it to
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: the presses, get published, and I get it out there
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: so folks can read it.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: Did you have to blindfold the people that we're going
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: to film out the Metal Project?
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: It's funny, like I said, the names, you know, when
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: it comes out, you'll recognize some of the names. And
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: one of them said, I even I had to sign
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: an NDA, so you know, you know, everybody sat down
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: with a stack of NDAs and signed them, and then
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: I developed what's kind of an operation security plan for
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: the Metal Project and with a list of what's called CIL,
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: a critical information list of things that they can't disclose.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: So you know, but the only thing that they're not
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: going to disclose in their film is the actual location.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: All the rest of their experiences are going to be
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: out there for the world to see.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: I would love to go out there and visit that place,
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: but at the same time, like I don't really want to.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: I've given up on doing the paranormal investigation stuff. It's
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: just too much for me. I can't handle it anymore.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: And stuff's too it's plays too many psychological games on you.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: And we have enough psychological stuff going on in the
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: like the government and all these drones and all the
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: media like all that stuff, and people are getting psychologically
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: tricked into all kinds of stuff nowadays. I don't need
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: to be psychologically tricked by something that I can't even see.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: You got you gotta be resilient. That was one of
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: the funny things in this film coming out in January,
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: is uh, you have the producer or the director that
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: I was doing an ST session with and uh, the
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: cinematographer and their production assistant. We're seeing shadow people, you know,
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: kind of moving around them while we were doing STS,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: and they were luckily were able to capture them on film,
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: which is gonna be really cool once that comes out
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: and is disclosed. But it freaked them out so bad.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: The cinematographer and production assistant like, nope, we're out. We
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  Speaker 1: are never coming back to this place ever, ever, ever again.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, it can it can kind of put
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  Speaker 1: the woo woo on your brain for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And you've spoken about that several times, about the
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: disorientation that you get when you're out there. I'm just like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not about that anymore. Like I go hiking in
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: the woods, you know, up in the mountains all the time,
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  Speaker 2: and that's about as interesting as I get these days.
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  Speaker 2: And I actually stayed at a haunted hotel the other day,
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  Speaker 2: which was really wild. I didn't even know that it
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  Speaker 2: was haunted. It was just a historical hotel and then
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  Speaker 2: I put the name of it in Google and I
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  Speaker 2: came up on it after that. But we didn't experience
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  Speaker 2: anything while we were there. But still I just completely
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  Speaker 2: stay away from it now, but whenever you're whenever the
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