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Former Rangers and Islanders Stanley Cup winning GM NEIL SMITH joins the show! · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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  we love him. He is a Ranger by heart, but an
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  Islander in my heart. Ladies and gentlemen, we are now
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  talking to former Rangers and Islanders Stanley Cup winning
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  General manager, the one that we love from the 94 New York Ranger
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  Championship team. Who built it, who traded for
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  Marc Messier? Who decided to trade my favorite
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  player away, the 1:00 we call Neil Smith.
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  Neil, what's up, my friend? I'm good, Harold, Who was your
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  favorite player that I traded away?
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  Sean Van Beesbrook, I told you that.
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  Oh, that's right, That's right. I thought you were going to say
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  Mike Gartner, and I had Mike Gartner on the show the other
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  day. So I said, I said, Mike, you
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  know, I've taken more crap for trading you than everybody.
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  And everybody says I wish you hadn't traded Gardner.
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  I said I wish I hadn't too, but you got to do what you got to
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  do. Yeah, it's called Mike Keenan.
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  That's what you got to do. You got to deal with that guy.
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  I mean, and we're working on getting Mike on the show.
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  That would be interesting. It would be really interesting
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  to get Neil Smith and Mike Keenan on at the same time.
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  Could you imagine, would you think that would work?
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  I don't think so. I think before you know it, I
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  see Neil trying to grab and try to jump through his screen and
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  choke Mike Keenan before it even happens.
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  So I, I don't think it'll work. But Neil, I want to get into a
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  lot of hockey with you because to me, if there's anybody that
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  knows more about hockey than you, I don't know who it is.
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  You've been around great hockey teams, great hockey players, the
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  Canadians falling short for gold and and United States finally
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  doing something that a team has not done on the United States
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  men's hockey team, has not done since 1980, Miracle on Ice.
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  What were your thoughts on that goal by Jack Hughes, as they
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  call the golden goal? What did you think?
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  And do you think that the United States played hard enough to win
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  that game? Yeah.
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  Yeah, I do. I, I think what happens in these
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  games is sometimes a goaltender can completely win the game for
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  you. And I, I got to say, I think
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  that Conor Hallibuck won the gold medal for the United States
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  because he was unbelievable the way he held Canada out of the
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  out of scoring and, and they should have been up 3 or 4 to
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  one at some point during that game.
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  It should never have gotten no overtime.
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  But then when it gets to overtime in the Olympic
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  Committee decided to go three on three, which I don't understand
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  because they were going three on three for 20 minute periods.
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  They said if they if it gets through 20 minutes and it's
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  still tied, we'll go another 20 minutes at three on three.
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  Well then go 5 on five, do a real game.
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  Don't do skills competition. But anyway, you know what, it
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  was fair and square. Jack Hughes got that goal.
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  They got caught up the ice. The Canadians did on McDavid
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  sort of missed on that shot going up and then the US got the
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  puck, got it up to great defenceman for Columbus, Zach
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  Warrensky got the puck up to him.
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  He made a fabulous play to Jack Hughes and Jack Hughes is a goal
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  scorer. I mean, we all here's the play
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  here. Look at this, Warrensky goes
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  after it, somehow McDavid loses it and then he gets it right
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  across and Jack Hughes makes no mistake.
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  So you know what, great on them, great for hockey.
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  It's the whole thing is fabulous, I think.
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  How about Jack Hughes getting his teeth knocked out and and
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  and pretty much said he was he swallowed one of his teeth is
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  half a tooth and then getting up bleeding.
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  Peterson, I think on Canada hit him and he had a 4 minute minor
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  and a major, I'm sorry, 4 minute major and then the he goes, he
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  goes into the box. the United States team does not score in
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  the 1st 2 minutes and then he gets a penalty.
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  He goes into the box. You get scared and then the the
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  United States kill the penalty and it goes to overtime.
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  I mean, it all fell well, well, but the thing that stood out to
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  me in that, in that game was the the the save that Connor
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  Hollabock made against Devin Thames with the shaft of his
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  stick. It was it you didn't realize and
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  you didn't notice it until Eddie Olczyk said, I think he I think
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  he hit his stick. I think it hit his stick.
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  And then you watch the replay and you were like, odd.
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  I was like, how did that miss the net?
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  How did that not go in? And Connor Hollabock was
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  amazing. You're absolutely right.
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  When you look at both coaches and Cooper and Sullivan and what
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  they did throughout the game, do you think they Cooper did enough
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  to figure out maybe change the lines later in the third period
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  to maybe give them a bitter bigger or better, more advantage
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  against Team USA with the talent that they have?
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  You know what I think that he, I can't second guess John Cooper
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  because he is such a great coach.
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  And I thought that they were, they were out playing the US
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  most of the game. I thought the one that that
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  Canada got the five on three, usually that swings some
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  momentum. If you don't score, the momentum
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  gets swung to the defending team.
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  If you do score, you get the momentum.
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  That's usually what 5 on threes do.
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  They swing the momentum one way or the other and Canada kept,
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  you know, went and had the momentum after not scoring.
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  That's what I found amazing because the US up until that
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  five on three, I thought had the better of the play.
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  And then from the five on three, from then on, it seemed like
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  Canada had the better of the play and the US was sort of back
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  on their heels a little bit. But I don't, I don't know that I
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  can criticize John for not changing his lines around or
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  doing anything. I mean, his team was was going
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  real good. You expected a goal at any time
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  and it just wasn't to be. And again, you know what, like
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  you think back to the Marty Bradur days, the Patrick Wah
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  days, the these fabulous goaltender set that win games,
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  win series, win cups. I think Connor Hellebuck did
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  that for them with this gold medal.
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  You forgot about Mike Richter. Remember what he did?
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  Of course. Well, I didn't.
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  I didn't want to brag this. Was Charles bias?
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  I mean, the the guy that he traded away, John Van Beesburg
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  did it. I mean, he didn't win a Stanley
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  Cup, but he got his team all the way to the Stanley Cup Finals,
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  so. You sure did.
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  Yeah, boy, oh boy did he stand on his head that year.
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  And it's funny. It's funny when I, when I spoke
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  to the Beezer like years ago and I, I brought up that time and
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  and I, I brought up the Rangers trading him.
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  He never, he didn't mention you, Neil, or never took shots at
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  you. He said that changed my career,
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  that changed my trajectory. And he said if that didn't
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  happen, maybe the great things that happened after that never
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  happened for me. So he says you have to, you have
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  to wonder what would have happened if I stayed with the
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  Rangers and want to stay. I never told you this one with
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  the one, the Stanley Cup with the Rangers, Maybe that changes
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  everything. That changes my trajectory, so,
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  he said. I I, I'm not upset that I never
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  won a Stanley Cup. Yeah, that the the issue was
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  though, and people, you know, this is so long ago, people
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  might not remember those expansion draft rules were you
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  could only protect one goalie. So you you had to make a
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  decision between Richter and Van Biesburg.
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  I had no choice and Richter was the younger guy and we just all
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  thought that we should go with Richter.
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  And then it was hard. I found a trade for Van
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  Biesburg, if you remember trading him to Vancouver.
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  And then Rodger Nielsen and and Bobby Clark for Florida took
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  John in the first pick. And that's why we got Doug
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  Lidster, who ended up on the ice for the Stanley Cup buzzer
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  against Vancouver. But it was it was difficult for
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  teams. I mean, you could only keep 1
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  goalie and you have two good ones.
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  What are you going to do? You got to trade one guy or the
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  other. I know, Neil, I, I, I forgive
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  you. I mean, after having you on the
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  show a couple of times, I forgive you.
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  I But you know what? It changed my trajectory because
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  then I followed Van Beesbrook. I became a Florida Panther fan.
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  And then when he went to the Islanders for the year, year and
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  1/2, he was there. I became an Islander fan because
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  he was also with the, if I'm not mistaken, he was with
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  Philadelphia and then he went to the Islanders.
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  I, I, I didn't root for Philadelphia.
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  I just want to, I rooted for him.
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  I stayed with the Panthers, but when he went to the Islanders, I
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  said, you know what? I'm going to be an Islander fan.
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  And boy, oh boy, I made the wrong decision for a while, but
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  I'm happy now. I mean, I got something.
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  That, you know, I think John is Beazers, one of the only players
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  and I don't know the other names.
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  I think there's one or two others that played for the
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  Rangers, the Islanders and the Devils played all three.
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  I'm trying. That's a good question.
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  That's a good. Question.
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  Yeah, it is good trivia question.
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  But he did he he he was in uniform for all three.
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  So I want to ask from the Canadian perspective, like the
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  obviously they've had the goalie platoons and I, I know you're
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  mentioning you don't blame John Cooper for the way they rotate
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  the line and stuff like that. But we always see like playing
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  styles for these goalies that are maybe questionable, like
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  they had to rotate. I thought Logan Thompson maybe
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  should have played more because Bennington was kind of up and
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  down throughout the tournament. Like, do you think that kind of
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  thing is with the playing style is something that Canada had an
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  issue throughout this tournament even winning?
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  A mouthful. A mouthful right there.
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  Yeah, I mean, Ben Bennington to me, you know, it's hard to
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  believe he's that sounds very negative.
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  What I'm going to say is it sounds hard to believe that
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  Bennington is the best Canadian goalie.
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  But you know, they said that the way he played in the Four
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  Nations, he earned that spot on the Olympic team.
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  And then when the Olympics started, the first three games,
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  I mean, he was great. And I'm not saying he wasn't
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  good in the in the game, even though Boldy scored on him on
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  that great rush he had. And then of course Jack scored,
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  Bennington was still good. I just don't see Bennington as
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  the best Canadian goalie out there.
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  Maybe, and I might be totally wrong, Doug Armstrong's AGM.
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  Guess what? Doug Armstrong's also the GM of
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  Saint Louis, which happens to be Bennington's team.
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  So I don't know, I think there's, you know, everybody can
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  look in the rear view Mirror Now and and see things.
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  That was a fantastic move by Baldy, the way he put it up in
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  the air. And you know, how many kids are
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  going to be trying for the next 5 years to replicate that move
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  and try to try to do that, that sort of like toss it up in the
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  air and go through that was amazing.
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  And he did it between Daves and Makar, I believe.
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  Yeah, he did. He looked really good too.
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  He looked good all the whole tournament.
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  It didn't show on as far as his statistics, but he was very,
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  very good. And and, and I'll tell you this,
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  Sullivan really mixed the lines up very, very well.
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  And you can see why Sullivan is and why the Rangers decided to
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  go with him. I mean, Chris Jury, the idiot
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  decided to go with him. I'm just, I can't stand Chris
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  Jury. I played hockey with him.
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  I never liked him as a hockey player.
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  I never liked his. You know, I didn't like his
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  father. So when I played against him, it
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  was very, very hard to deal with every single, every single time
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  I was on the ice and had to deal with stepping off the ice and,
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  and dealing with during intermissions and dealing with
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  his father screaming at me. So I wasn't, I wasn't a big
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  Chris Drury fan. So I always take shots and I'm
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  on this show. I've always attacked him on this
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  show, but I don't think he knows what he's doing.
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  I I really don't. The fact that the Rangers quit
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  the way they I've never seen a Ranger team quit before the All
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  Star break, quit before the Olympic break the way they did.
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  And then they're trading away pieces and Panarin, they got
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  nothing back for Panarin. This guy is one of the best
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  offensive players in the NHL. And they said, you know what,
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  we'll just give him for this guy.
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  It looks like a nice guy. I mean, he's going to 100
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  points. He's all right, you know, and
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  we'll get another guy and we'll just trade him over there in LA
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  and hopefully that'll work and and maybe we'll trade Vincent
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  Trochek. He's just one of the best two
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  way players in the league. He'll probably go for, you know,
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  a little pepper and salt and, you know, that's it.
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  You know, we're about to lose. We're going to try to get as
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  much as we can in this year's draft.
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  What the hell is this guy doing? Neil, you are a GM.
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  You've been a GM, a successful GM to build this team, this
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  organization. What the hell is this man doing?
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  Yeah, I can't answer Darryl because I, I, I have no idea.
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  I don't see the plan. I don't see why they're doing
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  the things they're doing. I haven't liked it since
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  Goudreau. I didn't like the Trouba thing.
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  I don't like the Kreider thing. I don't like, I didn't like the
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  Kapo Kako thing. I didn't like any of it.
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  And I Panarin, you're right. Like you're going to trade
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  Panarin because you're not going to re sign him.
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  Well, you know, you got to get more than that or else just let
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  them leave at the end of the year there.
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  You know, someone said this to me the other day.
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  In baseball, players leave at the end of the year.
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  And and not every baseball GM is, is, you know, tarred and
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  feathered because a baseball player walked out on them at the
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  end of the year. It seems like in hockey is the
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  only sport where if if a if a player walks away as a free
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  agent, you tar and feather the GM.
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  Well, you would have been better when you to stay with Panarin
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  and keep trying to make it because you know, and instead of
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  trading him off for nothing. It it just doesn't ring with me
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  why that happened. I I don't understand the
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  philosophy. I don't understand the plan of
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  of what they were doing with that.
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  And I sure don't see this retooling quote.
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  You're not rebuilding your retooling.
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  Well, let me tell you something. If you tear a building down, how
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  do you retool it? You, you know, it's, it's gone.
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  You got to rebuild it. And this building is torn down.
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  So I don't, I don't know what they're doing.
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  I can't see it from the outside. Hey, you know what?
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  I should ring, ring, ring and call James Dolan, Say hey, why
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  did you go on the carton show his first day back on WFEN and
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  come out with this garbage? Because I'm not buying it.
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  I haven't bought anything. Anything Chris Drury has done,
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  by the way, we are talking to former Rangers and Islanders
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  Stanley Cup winning general manager Neil Smith.
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  He's a friend of the show, does such a great job with his
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  podcast. He's sensational and one of the
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  guys that I believe should be in the Hall of Fame and hopefully
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  listen. When you get inducted in the
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  Hall of Fame, you better invite me.
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  I want to be. I will, I will.
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  You get me in there and you'll be there with me at the party.
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  I'm going to be there at the party.
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  I'll be dancing on the stage, man.
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  I'll be dancing as your backup dancer.
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  I'll be like, yeah, wait a second, why am I not holding the
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  Stanley Cup? That will bring us John Van
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  Beesbrook Jersey. By the way.
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  Yeah, yeah, that's fine. That would that would really
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  sell to the people, ladies and gentlemen.
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  So you brought up Bennington. All right, now I was there the
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  night they won the Stanley Cup in Boston.
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  I was on the ice when the Saint Louis Blues won that Stanley
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  Cup. And I walked up to Pennington
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  and I asked him. I said, listen, I know you have
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  a lot of people. And I got a couple of questions
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  to ask you. You, you were sensational
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  throughout the Stanley Cup finals.
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  You, you came out of nowhere. And I, Craig Barubi is one of
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  the nicest people you'll ever meet.
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  He really is. He was sensational, one of the
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  nicest people you'll ever meet. And shout out to Craig Barubi.
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  But this man is the biggest piece of, you know what I have
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  ever met. I walked up there and I said,
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  listen, can I get a couple of questions?
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  He said, who do you work for? I said, what does it matter?
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  You want a Stanley Cup? I got a question to ask you.
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  He says, well, I, I got other, you know, I got other questions
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  to ask you. So I said, I walked away.
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  I walk away and these two beautiful women walk up to him
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  and he's like, he's got just fire away, fire away.
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  I'm like, I turned around, I looked at him.
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  I'm like, I wish I had that stick.
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  I'd shove it right where the sun doesn't shine.
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  That piece of garbage, I walked right away and then I went to
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  Keith Kentucky and I asked Keith, by the way, Keith is not
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  a nice guy either, by the way. So I enough said on that.
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  When when you look at some of these players and you've worked
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  with a lot of them and I'm not going to throw you under the bus
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  and I don't want to get you in trouble.
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  Is there a particular player that stood out to you that
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  really just you didn't see eye to eye with, you just didn't
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  like because of his attitude? Was there a player out there
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  that you traded for, drafted or just a specific player that you
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  just, you just don't like them? A name doesn't come to mind, but
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  there's got to be somebody out there.
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  If if they proved to to be selfish and not a team guy, we
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  got rid of them pretty quickly. I can't.
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  A name doesn't come to mind. I can name you 25 players that I
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  loved, but players that I didn't like I I guess I just
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  immediately forget about them. So I threw you a curve.
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  You know nobody's ever asked you that question, huh?
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  No, not really, no. And I mean, even even the
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  players that I inherited when I got there and that I traded
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  really early, Michelle Petit was my first trade to Quebec for
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  Randy Mohler. I can't say anything bad about.
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  Michelle Petit, I can't say anything bad about anybody that
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  I had there that I didn't like them.
• 19:06
  There were some guys that just weren't team guys and then there
• 19:10
  were there were other guys that I was pissed because I would
• 19:13
  trade them and then they would badmouth me like I was some
• 19:17
  badass because I traded them. Well, you know what?
• 19:20
  You signed up for this job like you signed up to be a pro pro
• 19:24
  athlete and there's a chance you could get traded.
• 19:28
  Don't start crying about having to move your family when that's
• 19:31
  what you signed up for. But it's really hard.
• 19:36
  I got to be honest with you, I liked much more, many more than
• 19:42
  I disliked. Well, you mentioned you don't
• 19:45
  want to be threatened or being told that you have to be traded
• 19:49
  at the trade deadline. I remember Chris Jury a couple
• 19:52
  of years ago telling Goudreau before the trade deadline, I'm
• 19:56
  not going to trade you. I I know it's in the middle of
• 19:58
  the season. We're going to keep you.
• 20:00
  We'll move you in the offseason. And all of a sudden at the trade
• 20:02
  deadline, he moves Goudreau and Gujo was like, and I've I read a
• 20:07
  story that Gujo went up to Chris Drew and he said, listen, I
• 20:11
  never said I wouldn't do it. I said I might not do it.
• 20:14
  And and he lied to Goudreau and Gujo got traded.
• 20:18
  And it pissed off Goudreau because his family thought that
• 20:21
  they were going to be there in New York for at least the rest
• 20:24
  of the season and he didn't have to move.
• 20:25
  He was furiated. And it just it to me, it just
• 20:28
  tells me who Chris Troy is. Even personally offset or what I
• 20:32
  remember him as a player now as AGMI, just want to beat the hell
• 20:36
  out of him. I'm like, if he did listen, if
• 20:38
  he did that to me and I was Goudreau, I would have taken my
• 20:42
  stick and broken it on his face. That's what I would have done.
• 20:45
  I would say you did what? And I would have ran after him.
• 20:48
  I probably wouldn't have got another job, but at least I
• 20:51
  would have set myself up for a a media job in the long run.
• 20:55
  I don't know Chris personally. I do know his brother Ted, who I
• 20:58
  like very much, who's works for UBS and lives in Chicago and is
• 21:02
  the father of Jack Drury that plays on Colorado.
• 21:07
  But I, I don't know Chris. But what I'm really surprised at
• 21:10
  with Chris is he's a former player, a former captain, a
• 21:14
  former Stanley Cup winning player.
• 21:17
  You must have a lot better feelings for what players are
• 21:20
  going through than someone like me, I would think.
• 21:24
  And yet, you know, he's just treated players like crap a lot
• 21:30
  of the time. And that shocks me that, you
• 21:33
  know, a former player would do that to the players.
• 21:38
  I want to ask from the publicity standpoint, obviously the Ranger
• 21:40
  is making the letter itself. Obviously we talked about you
• 21:42
  didn't like the the retooling, the Christian reset, but the
• 21:45
  actual concept. I know other teams have done it
• 21:47
  with social media post. I think the sharks did it when
• 21:49
  they were trying to purge their core Ranger doing it twice
• 21:53
  though. Is it a little too much doing it
• 21:56
  publicly the way they're doing it?
• 21:58
  I think so. I think the, and I think that
• 22:00
  second letter basically was a, you know, was a copy of the 1st
• 22:05
  letter. It was, it was very similar to
• 22:09
  what they sent out the first time.
• 22:11
  And the first time it worked. I mean, they, they did it, they
• 22:13
  did it. They, they and they retool,
• 22:16
  rebuilt, redid, whatever, and ended up with a team that, you
• 22:21
  know, was very good, won the President's Trophy.
• 22:24
  I think it's, you've tried this trick too many Times Now.
• 22:28
  You're not going to buy this another letter.
• 22:30
  We get another letter like, come on.
• 22:33
  And the words are very similar. So I'm not sure where that order
• 22:37
  came from to do that letter. Maybe it wasn't Chris's idea.
• 22:41
  Maybe Chris was told, well, this worked for us a few years ago,
• 22:46
  let's do this again. Who knows, right?
• 22:50
  We don't. Know we are talking to former
• 22:51
  Rangers and Islander Stanley Cup winning general manager Neil
• 22:54
  Smith and I I could probably bet that Chris Drury had something
• 22:59
  behind it. I I've just taken, you know, if
• 23:02
  I'm playing dice or something or I'm playing craps, I'm probably
• 23:06
  going to guess the right number on this one.
• 23:08
  Baby. I I, I would.
• 23:10
  But Speaking of greatness, Matthew Schaefer has been as
• 23:15
  good as it gets. I mean, this guy has been
• 23:18
  sensational. He was the number one pick.
• 23:20
  I was questioning it because I wanted the the goal scorer Misa,
• 23:23
  but I'll take it back. I don't know why I did it.
• 23:26
  I he also didn't play a lot of games last year, so I didn't
• 23:29
  know who really Matthew Schaefer was until the season started.
• 23:32
  This kid is going to be the best defenseman in the NHL probably
• 23:38
  in the next two years. He's special.
• 23:40
  There's something about him that drives players to play with him
• 23:43
  and want to play with him. What do you know about Matthew
• 23:46
  Schaefer? I'm sure you've met him before
• 23:48
  or you've had a conversation with him.
• 23:49
  What do you what do you think of him?
• 23:51
  I I think the world of them, I've seen him play, being at UBS
• 23:54
  Arena, I'd say it whatever at least 20 times this season and
• 23:59
  he's got speed that's great. He can go up on the play and
• 24:03
  still get back, can defend. He's got great instincts with
• 24:07
  the puck. He's great on the power play.
• 24:10
  I, I think he is another Lane Hudson and Kale Mccarr and and
• 24:17
  Quinn Hughes type player. I think he's in that category
• 24:20
  with those 3 great guys. And I think two or three years
• 24:23
  from now, maybe even less, maybe next year, he's going to be
• 24:26
  right in the conversation for the, for the Norris Trophy.
• 24:30
  I think he's that good. I think he's going to be
• 24:32
  fantastic and I, I don't see, you know, you're always looking
• 24:36
  when you're a hockey guy for OK, what are the, what are the
• 24:40
  downsides of this guy? Where is he weak?
• 24:42
  Is he is he weak defensively? Is he weak physically?
• 24:45
  Is he scared? Does he not have a good shot?
• 24:48
  Can he not turn? He can do everything.
• 24:51
  He, he, he is good at everything and his maturity is off the
• 24:55
  charts, which of course is shouldn't be something that is
• 25:01
  surprising because to be that good at 18, you've got to be
• 25:05
  really mature. And as that, just like Maclin
• 25:08
  Salabrini, the one thing that everybody says about him at 19
• 25:12
  playing for Team Canada was his maturity as a, as a person,
• 25:16
  he's, he's well beyond his years.
• 25:18
  So, and I think that's the same with Matthew, Matthew Schaefer.
• 25:22
  I think the best thing that ever happened to the New York
• 25:25
  Islanders in the last 20 years is that they won that lottery
• 25:29
  last summer. And by the way, it was a
• 25:31
  sensational lottery because that was one thing.
• 25:34
  And everybody takes shots at Gary Bettman.
• 25:36
  I say it a lot. Gary Bettman is the best
• 25:38
  commissioner in professional sports.
• 25:40
  And a lot of people Boo him at the draft and he laughs, he
• 25:44
  smiles and it's cool when Gary Gary doesn't care.
• 25:47
  But I I think he's better than Goodell, Manford, all these
• 25:51
  guys, Adam Silver. Adam Silver let's the lead let
• 25:53
  the players run his league and they do and say whatever they
• 25:56
  want on on his platform. The Rodger Goodell is all about
• 26:00
  money and and the owners and he could screw everybody.
• 26:03
  He could care less. And Rob Manford's a complete
• 26:06
  moron, all right? This guy decided to do one thing
• 26:10
  and he said, you know what, you think that the lottery draft is
• 26:14
  fake or you think that everybody knows that who's going to go 1-2
• 26:18
  and three, I'm going to do it in front of the cameras.
• 26:21
  You're going to watch the lottery in front of your faces
• 26:24
  to see how lucky A-Team can get. And it was amazing.
• 26:28
  I, I think that every single league and I believe football
• 26:32
  should be doing a lottery like this eventually too.
• 26:34
  I think it all should be like that.
• 26:36
  You got to earn and get lucky in the lottery.
• 26:40
  I think what Gary Bettman is doing for the NHL is amazing.
• 26:44
  What are your thoughts to Gary Bettman and the transition when
• 26:48
  you were the the GM of the New York Rangers and you were GM in
• 26:51
  the NHL to now? I've seen Gary come into the
• 26:54
  league. I was already there as GM of the
• 26:55
  Rangers when he came in in 1992, and it was a guy from the NBA.
• 27:00
  And of course, the NHL was concerned about marketing and
• 27:04
  getting more revenue streams and the league becoming more
• 27:09
  valuable as the NBA was. And I've watched him since 1992
• 27:14
  grow franchise values like Jack and the Beanstalk.
• 27:18
  I mean, it's unbelievable. And you know, I don't like all
• 27:21
  the expansion. And the reason I don't is 'cause
• 27:23
  I'm a, I'm a hockey purist. I'd rather see their less teams
• 27:27
  and better players than more teams and watered down players.
• 27:30
  But nevertheless, we've got hockey now being played in
• 27:34
  places where nobody ever thought about hockey before, and we've
• 27:38
  got players coming out of different locations developing
• 27:41
  in places like Scottsdale and Vegas and other places.
• 27:45
  We never believed that a hockey player could come out of there.
• 27:47
  So, and that's all due to Gary Bettman and his ability to make
• 27:54
  franchise values grow. And, you know, revenues have
• 27:57
  gone up exponentially. The players should love Gary
• 28:01
  Bettman because it's it's Gary that has spearheaded the revenue
• 28:08
  for the National Hockey League going up the way it has.
• 28:11
  So I don't know how he could possibly have done a better job
• 28:15
  than he's done for the job description that he had.
• 28:19
  And like, honestly, like his job description was Gary, you know,
• 28:24
  move us up into up in and let us make more money so that we can
• 28:30
  be a bigger thing. We can get better network
• 28:33
  contracts, we can do better. He's done it all.
• 28:36
  He's done. He's spearheaded all of that.
• 28:38
  So I, I'm right with you. I don't know how anybody could
• 28:42
  criticize the job that he's done.
• 28:44
  You look at the league now, the NHL, and like you said, there's
• 28:47
  a lot of expansion and they're maybe thinking about bringing
• 28:50
  another team to the league in the near future.
• 28:55
  The Corbec Nordique's were to me a team that I really, I love
• 29:00
  their jerseys. When I was a kid, I always loved
• 29:03
  the blue and the white and, and, and I don't know if anybody's
• 29:06
  been to Corbec. It is a beautiful, beautiful
• 29:09
  city. Do you see the NHL bringing back
• 29:12
  hockey from, you know, to the core back Nordiques?
• 29:15
  You know, it's possible. They really want a team back
• 29:18
  there. Again, I'm not sure that they
• 29:21
  have the base for the revenue that you need to have to be in
• 29:25
  the National Hockey League nowadays.
• 29:28
  But I think Quebec is longing for a team.
• 29:32
  You know, when the Avalanche wear those uniforms on those
• 29:35
  throwback nights, they wear the Quebec Nordique.
• 29:37
  You know, I think it's fabulous. I mean it, it just brings you
• 29:40
  back to those days that rivalry between the Habs and the
• 29:44
  Nordiques was something special. I'm not sure that the market can
• 29:49
  really handle the NHL team in 2026, but then again, I didn't
• 29:55
  think Winnipeg could handle an an NHL team and Ottawa's still
• 29:59
  going and they're a very small market.
• 30:02
  So you know what, who knows if the owners that want to get a
• 30:07
  team in Quebec have deep enough pockets, anything can happen.
• 30:11
  I mean, you look around Nashville, TN as a team, I mean,
• 30:16
  who'd have ever thunk it? But you, you when you go to
• 30:19
  Canada, I, I go to Canada a lot. Neil and me and my girlfriend,
• 30:22
  we, we love the city. We, we were in Montreal during
• 30:26
  the snow and we were swimming in the hot pools at our, at our
• 30:30
  hotel. I mean, it is beautiful.
• 30:32
  It really is a beautiful, beautiful city.
• 30:34
  All the cities over there, it's hockey, is God there?
• 30:38
  I mean, everything on the television is God.
• 30:40
  It's, it's hockey, hockey, hockey, hockey, hockey.
• 30:43
  And if you're a hockey fan, you love it.
• 30:44
  I love it. How could you not have a hockey
• 30:49
  team in every big city? I mean, hockey's everything over
• 30:52
  there. And, and Quebec is beautiful.
• 30:55
  It's a beautiful, beautiful city.
• 30:57
  I, I don't get it. I really don't.
• 30:59
  They should have never taken that away.
• 31:00
  I, I, I was upset when the NHL did that.
• 31:03
  Remember when Owen Nolan was drafted by the Nordiques?
• 31:06
  Remember that. Yes, yes.
• 31:08
  And I loved Owen Nolan. I I loved him as a player, loved
• 31:12
  his game. I loved his strong skating
• 31:14
  ability and it used his big body to get to the net.
• 31:17
  When they when they decided to move the Nordiques, it really
• 31:22
  upsetted me. It really did.
• 31:23
  I didn't like the way the NHL treated the Nordique fans and
• 31:28
  and everything what they stand for for the city.
• 31:31
  And I think it really hurt the NHL and the growth of of that
• 31:34
  particular area. It it did, but it wasn't the NHL
• 31:37
  movement, remember, it's that that was the owner, Marcella
• 31:40
  Boo. That's right, Marcella.
• 31:41
  And remember, we played the Nordiques in their very last
• 31:44
  game ever because we were playing them in the playoffs.
• 31:46
  I remember in 95I. Remember.
• 31:48
  Yeah. And at the Colossee, and it was
• 31:51
  Marcelo Vu that wanted to get out and he ended up selling to
• 31:56
  Charlie in in Colorado, who owned both the Nuggets and now
• 32:00
  the brand new Avalanche that was coming there playing in the the
• 32:03
  old arena. So it's really not the NHL that
• 32:06
  decides to move it. Now in today's day, the NHL was
• 32:11
  involved obviously in brokering the deal of Arizona going to
• 32:15
  Utah because the Arizona situation was had gotten really
• 32:19
  bad. But it's it's really up to the
• 32:23
  owner of the individual franchises to appeal to the
• 32:28
  league, to let them sell, to go someplace else.
• 32:30
  Neil, what's what's up with these names?
• 32:33
  The Seattle Krakens and the Utah Mammoths there's.
• 32:39
  No S. It doesn't make any sense.
• 32:41
  None of it does. I mean, I'm looking at these
• 32:44
  names and then the jerseys are cool, but it doesn't make sense.
• 32:47
  Are you what is a Utah Mammoth and a Kraken Seattle grunge?
• 32:52
  I would have called him it's a grunge city.
• 32:53
  I would have called him the Seattle grunge.
• 32:55
  That would have made sense. None of it makes sense.
• 32:57
  What are the what is the NHL doing?
• 33:00
  I mean, I'm sorry, not the NHL. What is the the owners of these
• 33:03
  teams doing and how they're building their franchise?
• 33:07
  It makes makes no sense. Neil how these marketing, I
• 33:09
  think they get, they hire marketing specialists and they
• 33:12
  come out. I'll fire them tomorrow.
• 33:13
  You know, we've, we've got, we've had the Tampa Bay
• 33:15
  Lightning for a long time. We've had the Colorado Avalanche
• 33:18
  for a long time. I've always hated teams with no
• 33:21
  S on the end. I, I really have, because I
• 33:23
  always think if you're a hockey player, you know, you want to
• 33:27
  play for a team with an S on the end.
• 33:28
  You want to say, I'm a Ranger, I'm a Canadian, I'm a Maple
• 33:33
  Leaf. I'm, you know, how do you say
• 33:36
  I'm a Kraken? I'm an.
• 33:38
  Akin Head. And three of those four teams
• 33:44
  could be, three of those teams could be in the conference
• 33:45
  finals. I'm all mammoth.
• 33:48
  That's right. I'm a mammoth.
• 33:51
  Fish had a good one on. Crack.
• 33:55
  All right, Dale, since the trader lines coming up, I'll
• 33:57
  finish off with this from the Rangers.
• 33:58
  From the sellers perspective, obviously Trocheck is probably
• 34:00
  going to be traded. We've heard Braden Schneider
• 34:02
  recently too, from their perspective, and also the
• 34:05
  Islanders from a buyer's perspective.
• 34:06
  What moves would you make if you were the GM's of their
• 34:09
  respective teams at that moment? Well, you know, it's hard to say
• 34:12
  with the Rangers because I like Vinny Trochek.
• 34:14
  I think he's a real good center iceman for that team.
• 34:17
  Great face off guy. Prove that in the Olympics.
• 34:21
  I don't know who's going to play for the Rangers if you keep
• 34:23
  trading all these guys. Never want to want to sign
• 34:26
  Centers for whatsoever reason. Yeah, I mean, maybe it's going
• 34:30
  to be the Hartford Wolfpack moving into the garden.
• 34:32
  But so I don't, I don't quite know what they're going to do
• 34:37
  there. But put the brakes on and try to
• 34:38
  keep the guys that are the best leaders in in the locker room.
• 34:42
  As far as the Islanders go. I think the Islanders have to
• 34:45
  judge very carefully how they do from here to the next 10 games.
• 34:51
  And if they, if they are thinking that, OK, you know,
• 34:57
  we're in a good position to perhaps, you know, make the
• 35:01
  playoffs and we can add something without costing us our
• 35:05
  future. I think they, they should do
• 35:07
  that because the fans at UBS Arena and that they really want
• 35:10
  to see the playoffs. They, they, they want to get,
• 35:13
  have hope. And the only way you give your
• 35:15
  fans hope is by making the playoffs.
• 35:17
  So I'm not saying they should alter their plan at all.
• 35:19
  They shouldn't do that, but they should.
• 35:22
  If they feel in the next 10 games that they're, they're
• 35:25
  right there and they're, you know that it's, it's going in
• 35:28
  the right direction. I think they should try to add a
• 35:31
  piece or two without giving up future assets.
• 35:35
  They have such a future with some of the players they drafted
• 35:38
  in this past draft. By the way, we are talking to
• 35:40
  former Rangers and Islander Stanley Cup winning general
• 35:42
  manager, our friend Neil Smith. Neil, we're going to play a
• 35:45
  quick game. You ready?
• 35:46
  I'm going to. So this is how we're going to do
• 35:49
  it. It's it's going to be really,
• 35:50
  really cool. I'm going to tell you a trade
• 35:52
  that happened in the past in the NHL that worked for both
• 35:56
  organizations when they did it. After I do it, I want you to
• 35:59
  give me one. And we're going to do 2 of them,
• 36:01
  all right? And it's just going to come to
• 36:03
  mind. It's going to pop into my head.
• 36:04
  Are you ready? Yeah, sure.
• 36:07
  All right. Number one, Peter Forsberg was
• 36:11
  traded for Eric Lindros. That changed the trajectory for
• 36:15
  both teams, for Philadelphia, obviously.
• 36:18
  And for the Colorado Avalanche, Peter Forsberg became one of the
• 36:22
  best two way players in the NHL. I he, he won scoring titles.
• 36:27
  I mean, he, he was great. He was a great player overall.
• 36:29
  Just couldn't stay healthy. Eric Lindros, one of the
• 36:31
  biggest, one of the meanest and one of the greats that we've
• 36:35
  seen escape. One of the fastest big men we've
• 36:37
  ever seen skate on ice. Really.
• 36:40
  I mean, the Legion of Boom, the Legion of Goon, whatever the
• 36:43
  hell they call themselves, the Legion of Doom, and they were
• 36:47
  the real Legion of Doom as far as I'm concerned.
• 36:49
  Those three guys in Claire Lynn Dross and something with an R at
• 36:53
  the end. I can't.
• 36:54
  Renberg. Renberg.
• 36:55
  That's right. I'm sorry.
• 36:56
  I am trying to remember. It's a past, man.
• 36:59
  I'm losing my mind. All right, so I'm going to go
• 37:02
  Eric Lindros for Peter Forsberg. That certainly was a trade.
• 37:06
  It, it was a lot more than Peter Forsberg, though.
• 37:08
  That's the only thing you got to know.
• 37:10
  There was a lot, there was a lot of money and there was a lot of
• 37:13
  other players. And it's amazing that how well
• 37:16
  the Quebec slash Avalanche did by getting Peter Forsberg and
• 37:20
  went on to win the Stanley Cups and everything.
• 37:24
  So that that was a trade though that that ended up changing both
• 37:28
  franchises for sure. All right, give me one for you.
• 37:31
  Oh boy. Off the head.
• 37:33
  I'll say there was a trade with Toronto and Calgary, Toronto and
• 37:40
  Calgary that traded. Doug Gilmore went to Toronto,
• 37:48
  which ended up being a staple of Toronto and, and leading them
• 37:53
  for a decade or so as, as a great player there.
• 37:58
  But the players that came back to Calgary helped them win that
• 38:04
  Stanley Cup in 1989. And I I now I'm lost for the
• 38:09
  names of who went back for Gilmore, but I think, but it was
• 38:12
  a trade that helped both teams. Calgary got a Stanley Cup out of
• 38:16
  it, but they lost the best player in Doug Gilmore.
• 38:19
  Oh. There it is.
• 38:20
  Craig Beruby was in the deal. There you go.
• 38:22
  Doug Gilmore da da, da da da and I think Calgary won with those
• 38:26
  guys. Gary Lehman was a fifty goal
• 38:28
  scorer later on in his career. So I I talk about that one.
• 38:35
  I mean, one of my trades that helped both teams that I don't
• 38:38
  like to this day was Tony Amante to.
• 38:41
  Chicago, you took that away. You took that away from.
• 38:45
  You end up winning the Stanley Cup with those two, but Tony
• 38:48
  Imani goes on to be a All Star. You took that away from me.
• 38:53
  Yeah, you stole that from me. That was my other one.
• 38:56
  Damn. Well.
• 38:57
  See Great Minds. Yeah, great minds think alike,
• 39:01
  as always. But Neil, we love you, man.
• 39:04
  You're you're you do such a great job.
• 39:06
  And why don't you tell the fans how they can check out your
• 39:09
  show, which is a great hockey show.
• 39:11
  You still haven't asked me to come on.
• 39:13
  I'm very upset. Nhlwraparound.com is our website
• 39:16
  and you can get all of our shows on there.
• 39:19
  We had just this week we did a Hall of Fame show with Mike
• 39:24
  Gartner. We had our first two active
• 39:27
  players on last week, which was James van Reemsteke and his
• 39:32
  brother Trevor van Reemsteke, the place for Washington.
• 39:35
  That was a lot of fun. We have a lot of fun shows on
• 39:38
  NHL wrap around being we're on every podcast a platform out
• 39:43
  there and it's Victoria Moran and myself and we have a lot of
• 39:46
  fun and hopefully say some things that people didn't know.
• 39:51
  So we say something that helps you more understand what's going
• 39:55
  on. Well, I don't know if you know
• 39:57
  this, but over the weekend we were ranked on Spotify and Apple
• 40:01
  56th in the whole country. So I don't know if you knew
• 40:04
  that. Wow, Congrats.
• 40:06
  Thank you. Great.
• 40:06
  We've been in the top 100 for almost a week.
• 40:09
  So and we've been we've been steady in the top 200 in the
• 40:13
  whole country. We're under OK, so our genre
• 40:16
  with Spotify now, but you have to pick a genre.
• 40:18
  So and being that we the football has the most podcast
• 40:23
  out there in the whole world. So we picked I saw, I told
• 40:26
  Speedy let's go football, but we talk all sports.
• 40:29
  So we're considered a football show, but we're really we talk
• 40:34
  baseball, we talk hockey and and that's why I think the YouTube
• 40:37
  channel is it. We'll do OK, but we we could be
• 40:39
  doing a lot better if we had a niche.
• 40:41
  And we, my guys, my producer Speedy and my executive producer
• 40:45
  Aaron, we go back and forth. We're like, well, you know,
• 40:47
  should we change it to the New York, you know, New York sports
• 40:50
  loudmouth And we're we're working on something right now
• 40:53
  because we are, we do talk a lot of New York sports, but it's
• 40:58
  harder on YouTube because you have to have a niche.
• 41:01
  You got to tell if you're going to talk hockey or talk just
• 41:03
  hockey. And we don't do that.
• 41:05
  And that's not something that we do.
• 41:06
  We want everybody to see that we're open to talk about
• 41:09
  anything. We could speak about anything
• 41:11
  and we have the knowledge to speak about everything.
• 41:14
  So it's different. YouTube's a different, but
• 41:17
  Spotify and Apple, everybody loves us.
• 41:18
  And I want to thank everybody that tunes in.
• 41:20
  I don't know if you know this Apple and Spotify have Apple and
• 41:24
  Spotify video now. Did you know that?
• 41:27
  No, I didn't know that. Well, that's going to help you
• 41:29
  guys. I.
• 41:30
  Better get on there. I better we should do some more
• 41:32
  video. You got to get on there, man.
• 41:34
  I listen. I'm going to try to help you,
• 41:36
  Neil. I'm.
• 41:37
  Trying to help. We need all the help we can get.
• 41:39
  We know it's a long game, right? It's a long game.
• 41:42
  You can't. Nobody gets into this and then
• 41:46
  all of a sudden is, you know, unbelievable the first, the
• 41:50
  first year. So we're we're sticking with it.
• 41:52
  It's enjoyable. We have a lot of fun.
• 41:54
  You guys, you're great anyways, Neil and you want to know
• 41:57
  something every time we have you on the show.
• 41:59
  I get a lot of guys on this show.
• 42:00
  I've interviewed every, I've done this for over 13 years, but
• 42:04
  our show is now like I, I've worked with different athletes
• 42:08
  and it, you know, some of them, they didn't work out.
• 42:11
  But I, I've worked with a lot of people and I've, but I've
• 42:14
  interviewed like over 5000 people in my time of doing this,
• 42:17
  going places, doing things, athletes, musicians, everything.
• 42:21
  When I meet people or even have a conversation with people, I, I
• 42:25
  want to know how much they know about their sports or how much
• 42:29
  they don't know about their sports and how.
• 42:30
  And then I say to myself, after I get off the phone with them or
• 42:33
  even get off a zoom call with them or anything with them, I'm
• 42:36
  like, man, how did that guy have a job in that sport?
• 42:40
  You know, I just feel like, so when I when I speak to you, I
• 42:45
  always, you know, when you won that Stanley Cup and they gave
• 42:48
  you the Stanley, I'll never forget the face that you had
• 42:51
  when they gave you the Stanley Cup.
• 42:52
  Even Mike Keenan's face, even Mark Messi, when he finally got
• 42:55
  handed that that trophy and he he was smiling and he went
• 42:59
  crazy, you know, and you built that team.
• 43:03
  You built that team. I don't think people understand
• 43:06
  that, that the Rangers thought they were going to win plenty of
• 43:09
  championships after 1994. That didn't happen.
• 43:12
  Guys, here it is. Watch this, watch it.
• 43:14
  When he gets the ball, watch it. Look at that smile.
• 43:17
  Look at him shake. I mean, come on.
• 43:20
  I know it was fantastic. It was something, it wasn't
• 43:23
  fantastic for me because at the time I I hated you, Neil, I
• 43:26
  hated you. You treated my favorite player,
• 43:29
  but I, I understand you now. And even talking to the Beezer
• 43:33
  after the fact, I never hated you.
• 43:36
  I just hated the fact that he couldn't be a part of that.
• 43:39
  And that was something that hurt me as a fan because I loved, I
• 43:43
  went to his camps when I was a kid, Van Beezbrook's camps.
• 43:45
  And I, I just loved him as a person and, and it was something
• 43:50
  that it really hurt me. But knowing you over the last
• 43:53
  couple of years and just getting to know you as a person, not
• 43:56
  only do I have a lot of respect for you, I think you're one of
• 43:59
  the most knowledgeable hockey minds that I've ever got a
• 44:04
  chance to talk to. And I appreciate you and I want
• 44:08
  you to, I do nothing but I, I want you to achieve all your
• 44:11
  goals. And I definitely would love to
• 44:13
  come on your show and just have conversations and laugh and, and
• 44:17
  you know, be a little crazy. But you guys, I've checked out
• 44:20
  your show, I've checked out some of the, the content that you put
• 44:22
  out there. You guys are sensational and I
• 44:25
  really appreciate you. Well, thank you very much and
• 44:28
  anytime you guys want me on here, you know, you know my
• 44:30
  number. Absolutely man and keep up the
• 44:33
  good work man And let's let's talk off air.
• 44:35
  Maybe we should talk off air because.
• 44:37
  Yeah, for sure, for sure. OK, great guys.
• 44:40
  Thanks. Neil Smith, man, Stanley Cup
• 44:42
  champion, New York Rangers 94. One of the great personalities.
• 44:48
  And I'll tell you this, I've interviewed Marc Messier, Adam
• 44:51
  Graves, Zubov. I've interviewed a lot of Sergei
• 44:54
  Namchinov. All these guys told me the
• 44:56
  mastermind of that team was Neil Smith, not Mike Keenan.
• 45:00
  I, I, I don't know. I, I guess Mike Keenan wasn't
• 45:03
  loved by everybody. I'm we all know he's not loved
• 45:07
  by Neil. I personally was there as a
• 45:11
  little kid at the Four More Years speech.
• 45:13
  My father worked for Giuliani. He got me into Gracie Mansion.
• 45:17
  I actually got to do all that. I think I may have said it once
• 45:19
  before on the show, but we all thought Keenan was coming back.
• 45:23
  We all thought this was going to be like a dynasty.
• 45:25
  It just didn't go that. Way no.
• 45:27
  And Neil wanted it, but Mike Keenan was hard.
• 45:30
  He was a hard ass. And if anybody knows the story,
• 45:33
  we've had Neil, we've had this conversation with Neil plenty of
• 45:36
  times and we're working. Nathan is working on getting
• 45:38
  Mike Keenan on this show and I would love to hear what Mike
• 45:43
  Keenan has to say about. Neil, you have to let me ask him
• 45:46
  and tell him that story. You got to let me as a kid.
• 45:49
  It's one of my earliest memories.
• 45:50
  I will. It just I remember when Mike
• 45:53
  Keenan came from the Chicago Blackhawks.
• 45:54
  I remember it. And I remember Neil Smith making
• 45:57
  that choice and bringing him in. And Neil made the right
• 46:00
  decision. It's not like he didn't, and the
• 46:03
  Rangers won because of it. But Neil Smith was the
• 46:07
  mastermind. He built that team.
• 46:08
  He made the trade for Steve Larmer.
• 46:10
  He's the one who drafted Sergey Zubov.
• 46:13
  He's the guy that was the mastermind and the creator of
• 46:16
  that Stanley Cup championship team.
• 46:18
  He made the move for Stefan Mato, Mato Mato, all those guys.
• 46:23
  SA Tikkinen. That was all the guys that he
• 46:27
  pulled off and made those trades at the trade deadline to get
• 46:30
  them here to help them win a Stanley Cup.
• 46:32
  So that guy was the guy that really redefined a championship
• 46:37
  contending team like the New York Rangers who only won what
• 46:42
  was it the the last championship before that 19401940 or
• 46:46
  something like that. I mean, and they were the.
• 46:47
  Worst team in the original 6 era. 19.
• 46:50
  They chanted it every place. I forgot, I forgot, dude.
• 46:54
  You know, when he was on, I said 1950.
• 46:56
  I was like, oh, wait a second, it was 1940.
• 46:58
  But I listen, man, I, I, I, I'm getting old there.
• 47:01
  I'm, I'm losing my mind a little bit, you know?
• 47:04
  You also haven't eaten any food in 24.
• 47:06
  Hours. That could be it.
• 47:07
  I mean, longer than that. Now it's it's longer than 24
• 47:09
  hours. I think about it, but shouldn't.
• 47:12
  They told you to fast for 36 hours.
• 47:14
  I don't. That's what they told me at
• 47:16
  midnight. They said you got to stop drink,
• 47:18
  stop eating. You could still drink water and
• 47:22
  you know, you could put some crystal light in it, but no
• 47:24
  purple, no blue, no red, all this garbage, no Gatorade at at
• 47:29
  any cost. So I mean, what are you trying
• 47:31
  to kill me here? I'm not, you know, I'm not, I'm
• 47:34
  not Gandhi here. I mean, I'm hungry, you know, so
• 47:38
  just kind of bothers down. Something to look forward to.
• 47:41
  Oh, dude, I guess turning. I promise.
• 47:43
  I promise you guys, I promise. Well, you turned 40 already.
• 47:46
  Stop. Stop.
• 47:47
  I know it's something for me to look forward to.
• 47:49
  I've been being. I feel bad for you because you,
• 47:51
  you deal with enough. I mean, you got diabetes.
• 47:53
  I mean, that's, that's the worst you can deal with.
• 47:56
  I mean, and there's no changing that I, I got to give you credit
• 47:59
  because me fasting for 36 or 40 hours is not as bad as having
• 48:04
  one I'm. Not gonna lie.
• 48:05
  There's some studies, you know, in China, they're saying they're
• 48:08
  curing it. So we'll type one.
• 48:10
  Hey, I'm fine. There's a lot of things going
• 48:13
  on. I was still, I actually coached
• 48:14
  a kid that had type 1 diabetes. He was a quarterback.
• 48:17
  We could not block and he got murdered every single time.
• 48:20
  And we we've had him run all the time too.
• 48:23
  And they're playing like D3 baseball or something like that,
• 48:25
  which is toughest kid I ever seen in my life.
• 48:27
  He had one of those old school ports like it's open in your
• 48:31
  body. Like I don't even have that.
• 48:34
  I I can't even imagine. And he had that ever since he
• 48:36
  was a kid. And some people look, you can
• 48:39
  play through it. We heard who did we interview
• 48:41
  was a Pittsburgh Steelers lineman Kendall Simmons.
• 48:43
  Kendall Simmons. Kendall Simmons said he had
• 48:46
  blood sugars of like 850 in pre season.
• 48:50
  I love Lisa. He should not be alive, but
• 48:53
  that's what he did. You know I'm fine, we're all
• 48:56
  good. But Errol football players
• 48:58
  circle jerk. Interesting.
• 49:00
  Stop topic. No, not that.
• 49:02
  Not that. All right, ladies and gentlemen,
• 49:04
  we call this the NFL. Whip around.
• 49:08
  No whip, whip, whip around. Make her squirt.
• 49:12
  Make me jerk. Welcome everybody to the Whip
• 49:19
  Around. We're going to get into some
• 49:22
  football news and notes. Let's get that music just a
• 49:26
  little bit lower. This one's a loud one, boys.
• 49:30
  The Bears are allowing middle linebacker Tremaine Edmonds to
• 49:34
  seek a trade. He's entering the last year of
• 49:38
  his four year, $72 million contract he signed in 2023.
• 49:43
  He's got a 13.9 million base salary with a 1,000,000 roster
• 49:47
  bonus, 17.9 million cap hit for an off the ball linebacker.
• 49:56
  It looks like they're trying to get rid of him.
• 49:57
  That's a big. Squeeze the cheese.
• 50:00
  Still one of the best in the league.
• 50:02
  He's a top 10 tackler in the league.
• 50:03
  Still one of those guys that a lot of teams, such as the team
• 50:10
  he used to be on, the Bills, they're letting Matt Milano go.
• 50:14
  Most likely he's been hurt too much.
• 50:17
  Not the same guy. He might come back there.
• 50:20
  He was too expensive for them to keep back then, now might not
• 50:23
  be. He's might be cut.
• 50:25
  If he can't be traded, he's not going to give up very much for
• 50:28
  him. Probably a seventh round pick.
• 50:29
  I I. There's the Giants, the Giants
• 50:32
  era before you go, I'm sorry, the Giants are probably going to
• 50:36
  cut Bobby O karaoke if they sign a guy, if they trade for a guy
• 50:40
  like Edmonds, obviously you're ripping up the contract.
• 50:43
  You're signing him to like a two year deal where it's like, you
• 50:46
  know, very low cap hit for this year and then you see if he's
• 50:51
  any good and then you give him a bigger contract after that.
• 50:54
  What do you think about Tremaine Edmonds and the Bears deciding
• 50:58
  to let him go? It makes a lot of sense for
• 50:59
  Buffalo. I, I think Buffalo's the team.
• 51:02
  He's, he wants to go back and obviously it's not the same
• 51:05
  coaching staff, but Edmonds knows the way they want to run
• 51:09
  their defense and he fits what the, what they're missing.
• 51:13
  They lose Milano, they add Edmonds that that's a, that's
• 51:16
  really like a, like, it's a glove for that organization.
• 51:19
  It's a glove like, you know, Ace Fantora says as far as the, the,
• 51:24
  the Giants are concerned, I don't know if the, I, I know it
• 51:27
  makes sense for Joe Shane. He was, he was a part of that,
• 51:29
  that group that drafted him. I, I still think if they're, if
• 51:33
  they're going to bring in free agents that are going to fit,
• 51:35
  they got to make sure that it's a slam dunk.
• 51:38
  You can't make, you can't make a decision like this and say,
• 51:41
  well, we make a mistake. We bring him in or, or even even
• 51:45
  if he's a low cap hit. I don't know if the, I don't
• 51:48
  know if the Giants are going to want to do that.
• 51:49
  I think they're going to try to get a short thing here.
• 51:52
  They need corner help more than a linebacker.
• 51:55
  That's where I think the Giants need to look.
• 51:57
  If they have money and their free money, that's where you put
• 51:59
  all your eggs in the basket, not at a linebacker.
• 52:02
  So I'm going to say I'm going to sell the Giants thing.
• 52:04
  I'm going to buy the Buffalo Bills thing.
• 52:07
  Yeah, if the Bills can get at the price that you were
• 52:09
  describing, Fish, they could definitely make that work
• 52:10
  because they need a veteran guy that could be a defensive play
• 52:13
  caller. They have a lot of young
• 52:15
  safeties, a lot of young linebackers.
• 52:16
  Those are generally the two guys that are going to be the play
• 52:18
  callers. The Giants, I'm with Errol.
• 52:20
  I kind of want them to focus more on corner, the receiver
• 52:23
  obviously losing Wondell Robinson, you're going to need
• 52:24
  something to replace. Them Tate, yeah, they want the
• 52:28
  draft. In the draft, they look pretty
• 52:29
  good. Yeah, and you're not gonna,
• 52:30
  you're not going to replace it with, especially the new scheme
• 52:32
  with one linebacker, especially the team that plays a lot of
• 52:35
  nickel already. It's the kind of thing with the
• 52:36
  Bills, they already play a lot of nickel.
• 52:38
  So Edmonds would only be a cheap thing just for millenniality.
• 52:40
  All right, let's get into it. I'm hoping the Giants actually
• 52:44
  go get this guy personally, because the middle, the
• 52:46
  linebacker play has been so bad. I think a lot of it was
• 52:49
  coaching, but we'll see. Let's move on.
• 52:53
  This is a guy you brought up a second ago, Errol, and we have
• 52:56
  to talk about him because he might be on The Jets.
• 52:59
  Arvel Reese, Ohio State linebacker, sometimes edge
• 53:04
  rusher. I would say last year is
• 53:06
  probably 5050. He might have even played a
• 53:08
  little bit more edge than inside linebacker last year.
• 53:11
  But he can play both and he presents quite a whole bunch of
• 53:15
  problems for other teams, especially when you hear what he
• 53:19
  did at the combine today. It's ridiculous. 40 yard dash
• 53:24
  446 tied for first among linebackers and edge rushers.
• 53:29
  6424132.5 inch arms shorter than average.
• 53:36
  Not really. Edge rusher arm length 9.5 inch
• 53:40
  hands pretty normal and above average.
• 53:43
  Listen to this 38 inch vertical 38 that's that's NBA 38 inch
• 53:53
  vertical 10/8 broad jump both of those top of all players in his
• 53:59
  category. The fact that he is 243 lbs now
• 54:03
  and they're saying that's how much he weighs.
• 54:05
  He's 64. I didn't think he was that big.
• 54:08
  I mean, he's big. He's a big man, He's a big boy,
• 54:12
  and he can run a 446 and jump that high and do all those
• 54:16
  acrobatic things. I don't see him going past #2 I
• 54:21
  really, I want. I like Bane and I like Bailey.
• 54:25
  I understand why everybody loves him.
• 54:27
  But when you hear this freakish numbers, I mean, I know the
• 54:31
  combo doesn't sell you, but it's freakish how big and how strong
• 54:35
  this guy is. I'm going #2 with him, I don't
• 54:39
  think I could argue that. I mean, 246, 243, whatever they
• 54:43
  say he was that. That's freakish.
• 54:47
  Yeah, and I always. It was 240-1241.
• 54:50
  I always had him pretty far ahead of Bailey anyway.
• 54:53
  I think Bailey played with a lot of good talent around.
• 54:55
  Not that Reese didn't. He obviously Ohio State loaded
• 54:57
  as well, but I think his versatility in so many different
• 55:00
  positions is a lot that you have to factor in and now you have
• 55:03
  the athleticism scores to go along with that kind of thing.
• 55:06
  I think this is definitely a #2 pick worthy.
• 55:08
  I like Bane a lot too. I think Bane should go #3 right
• 55:10
  after that if Mendoza goes one. But this is definitely proving
• 55:13
  like the versatility fish you talked about ICS Simmons
• 55:15
  earlier. I, I versatility isn't as much
• 55:17
  of A concern for me with these off ball, with these pass
• 55:20
  rushing linebackers more the off ball in the state because you
• 55:22
  can. Concerning these guys with that
• 55:24
  athletic ability, you get a spin move.
• 55:26
  I mean, you're going to be a Micah Parsons.
• 55:28
  I mean Michael Parsons, they, they had questions about him
• 55:31
  when he came into the league, his arm length and all this
• 55:34
  other stuff. And look how good Michael
• 55:36
  Parsons. And they're very similar player
• 55:38
  prototypes in terms of their skill.
• 55:39
  Sets. He's bigger than Michael
• 55:40
  Parsons, I know that. And that's why I'm saying I'm
• 55:42
  not as worried about that. And fish, this is coming from me
• 55:44
  that I really liked Isaiah Simmons at the time out of the
• 55:46
  draft. I thought he was another honey
• 55:47
  badger. But it seems like those types of
• 55:49
  ones are the more concerning, not as much the pass rusters
• 55:52
  like Reese. I'll just say this before we
• 55:54
  move on from him. Obviously this the the combine's
• 55:57
  probably going to make this decision for everybody.
• 56:00
  But for me, like I, I still would be very interested in
• 56:04
  Bain. Bain is like a true talent.
• 56:07
  If you're playing a 3/4, Reese can terrorize, but I think he
• 56:11
  has to play in a three four. I think you can put Bain in any
• 56:14
  defense at all along the line and he would be an awesome D end
• 56:18
  or he could play in the 3/4 as an edge rusher.
• 56:21
  I don't know if you want to have Reese playing middle linebacker
• 56:24
  in a four three, right? That's not really a value place
• 56:27
  for a guy of his caliber. So I think he's a little bit
• 56:30
  more scheme dependent than a guy like Bane.
• 56:31
  But hey, I think you're going to be happy with these guys one way
• 56:35
  or the other. Errol.
• 56:37
  Next story Kyler Murray, Potential Jets quarterback Kyler
• 56:42
  Murray. Not happening.
• 56:44
  There was a story that, you know, the GM, Monty Austin Ford
• 56:48
  said that they were talking to Kyler.
• 56:51
  You know, they've had good dialogue.
• 56:53
  That was the, quote, good dialogue with Murray since the
• 56:56
  season ended, Murray said that's never happened.
• 57:00
  Apparently, there's been no contact between Kyler Murray and
• 57:05
  the Cardinals. And it's just all but a given
• 57:10
  that he's moving on and they're probably going to try to replace
• 57:13
  him with a veteran this offseason, be another one of
• 57:16
  those teams next year by and for one of those top quarterbacks,
• 57:19
  unless they take a shot at one of these guys this year.
• 57:21
  Errol Kyler Murray, little undersized, built, you know,
• 57:25
  he's built kind of like a tank. He's not like slight in frame,
• 57:28
  but a little short. And we know his biggest thing
• 57:31
  that everyone knows about him. Likes to watch, doesn't watch
• 57:35
  the lot, doesn't really like to watch tape, likes to play Call
• 57:38
  of Duty maybe a little too much. What do you think about that as
• 57:43
  a potential next quarterback for you?
• 57:45
  It's not going to happen. I don't know what you're you're
• 57:47
  drinking. If you're drinking something,
• 57:49
  keep drinking and it's not going to happen.
• 57:51
  There's no way that Kyler Murray will be the quarterback of the
• 57:54
  New York Jets. And here's the reason why.
• 57:57
  Aaron Glenn does not want these prima Donna players in his
• 58:01
  locker room. He knew Aaron Rodgers was, he
• 58:04
  got rid of them and Justin Fields was a yes man type of guy
• 58:08
  and it it didn't work. But that's what he wants.
• 58:12
  Kyler Murray would be somebody that there is no way in hell
• 58:16
  Aaron Glenn is going to deal with in the locker room.
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  The guy doesn't like people, people don't like him.
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  Kyla Murray is not a fit for the New York Jets.
• 58:24
  I'm telling you right now, that's never going to.
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  Happen. No, not in New York.
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  You can't have that kind of thing.
• 58:28
  This egomaniac type quarterback, these guy that has really big
• 58:31
  good leader since his first two years in the league.
• 58:33
  And again, I think The Jets are not a quarterback away.
• 58:36
  They don't want to have that kind of drama there.
• 58:38
  And the Cardinals, I think they're stuck both ways.
• 58:40
  Like Kyla Murray's going to be stuck.
• 58:41
  They're probably going to have to cut him for much more than
• 58:43
  awesome or it's not looking good either by saying oh I didn't
• 58:45
  call him, oh I did call him. That's not a guy for one that
• 58:49
  should have barely kept his job as AGM either.
• 58:51
  Yeah, I was going to say, how does that guy still have his
• 58:53
  job? He got the coach, got fired,
• 58:56
  everybody knew it. That roster is not good.
• 58:58
  So here's the deal. If they cut Murray before June
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  1st, it's a $54.7 million cap hit, dead cap hit.
• 59:07
  If they trade him and get like, you know, like I guess a very
• 59:11
  late round pick, probably it's a 37.2 million save in cap space.
• 59:18
  So it looks like they're going to be trying to shop him to
• 59:21
  somebody. But I don't know who's taking on
• 59:24
  that deal because you can't, you'd have to, you know, RIP up
• 59:27
  that contract and give him a new contract.
• 59:29
  I just don't know like where he's going to go.
• 59:32
  They're going to either have to keep him and deal with a really
• 59:35
  ugly situation this year over there, or they're going to cut
• 59:39
  them and take a $55 million hit this year and they're not firing
• 59:43
  their GM. Maybe they do fire them if they
• 59:46
  have to take that cap they're. Going to have to do like one of
• 59:48
  those like weird mid season situations like you saw The Jets
• 59:50
  do with Mccagnon and stuff like that and just do it right after
• 59:53
  the draft. They're really stuck.
• 59:55
  Yeah. Oh well, here's one that this
• 59:57
  might not be more than any just bluster, but there was a story
• 1:00:02
  out that that they're thinking about trading CJ Stroud.
• 1:00:08
  Yes, CJ Stroud, the second overall pick from a couple of
• 1:00:11
  years ago, rookie of the year hasn't been as good since,
• 1:00:14
  right? But obviously playoff team this
• 1:00:17
  year it won led by that defense, though.
• 1:00:20
  Here's some of the the stats and some of the value.
• 1:00:24
  He's got a very low base salary and he will have a fifth year
• 1:00:28
  option around 27,000,000. So they have two more years of
• 1:00:31
  control of him if he was to be traded.
• 1:00:34
  But of course, you know, Chairman Cal McNair, you know,
• 1:00:40
  is questioning the leadership. So this one looks like the GM
• 1:00:46
  who said it's that's moronic. Nick Casario.
• 1:00:49
  We're not trading the guy. He's going to be playing
• 1:00:50
  quarterback for the Texans. But we've heard some things
• 1:00:53
  about this owner in Houston over the years, Mr. McNair, and he
• 1:00:58
  does not like Shroud and his leadership.
• 1:01:01
  Although the team has officially distancing themselves from their
• 1:01:06
  owner's comments. I am not a big believer that the
• 1:01:11
  owner should be involved with the the football or even any
• 1:01:16
  kind of operations, but it seems to happen with the the Cowboys,
• 1:01:20
  it happens with The Jets, it happens with the bad teams.
• 1:01:24
  The Texans are a good team. They have a very good run
• 1:01:27
  organization and and they're very well run oil machine.
• 1:01:32
  CJ Stroud has not looked good in the playoffs.
• 1:01:34
  He hasn't, I'm sorry, he hasn't. He's been a good regular season
• 1:01:37
  player. In the first half this year he
• 1:01:40
  wasn't as good as he was in the second-half.
• 1:01:42
  He played very good football in second-half.
• 1:01:43
  He was one of the reasons why his team made the playoffs with
• 1:01:46
  the defense and the front seven. I'm going to tell you this right
• 1:01:50
  now. CJ Strout is an optional guy you
• 1:01:55
  could trade. There is no way this offseason
• 1:01:57
  they're moving him because first of all, there is no quarterback
• 1:02:02
  in this year's class besides Mendoza.
• 1:02:05
  So I'm not betting on anybody. You can draft or you can nitpick
• 1:02:08
  on who's going to fit and even the veterans that are going to
• 1:02:10
  be available, you're going to tell me that Kirk Cousins is a
• 1:02:13
  better fit than him? It doesn't make sense.
• 1:02:15
  None of them. Kyler Murray.
• 1:02:17
  You want Kyler Murray there I I not a chance.
• 1:02:21
  None of the guys that are available make any sense unless
• 1:02:25
  they have their backup quarterback who I I actually
• 1:02:28
  like to be their their future. And Mills, Davis Mills, I, I
• 1:02:32
  don't think that's happening. I expect him to keep his job.
• 1:02:36
  He stays with the Texans. It's.
• 1:02:38
  Ridiculous. Yeah.
• 1:02:39
  Unless you can get two first round picks from a very
• 1:02:41
  desperate team, like, I really can't see this kind of thing
• 1:02:43
  happening. And there's only a few team,
• 1:02:45
  maybe the Vikings, maybe the Steelers.
• 1:02:47
  They don't think Ayer Rodgers will come back.
• 1:02:49
  Unless you get that kind of offer, you're not trading him.
• 1:02:52
  And we talked about the Texans in the past with DeAndre Hopkins
• 1:02:54
  having a problem with their ownership.
• 1:02:56
  Andre Johnson's had problem with their ownership.
• 1:02:57
  It looked like they were finally stepping away for a while and
• 1:02:59
  now all of a sudden you're trying to put your nose back
• 1:03:01
  into things. This is a really good young team
• 1:03:04
  that you don't really want to mess with things.
• 1:03:05
  And he said, look, there are other players, they're going to
• 1:03:07
  want to get contracts soon, and you're going to make them all
• 1:03:10
  unhappy. Yeah.
• 1:03:10
  You don't want to have to revert to that kind of thing again.
• 1:03:13
  Ownership McNair. You would think you would
• 1:03:16
  wouldn't say something like that.
• 1:03:18
  It just hurts the value, even if you aren't going to keep them.
• 1:03:20
  It's just pretty dumb. But there are some dumb owners
• 1:03:23
  out there that have lots of money.
• 1:03:25
  One of the dumbest things we saw a couple of years ago was giving
• 1:03:29
  Kirk Cousins 40 million a season and then drafting Michael Pennix
• 1:03:33
  only to obviously go with Pennix.
• 1:03:36
  It got the general manager fired.
• 1:03:39
  They're going to cut Kirk Cousins.
• 1:03:40
  It was announced by the start of the league year on, I believe
• 1:03:43
  it's the 11th of March, so it'll be right before that.
• 1:03:47
  They're going to take a dead cap hit of 35 million, but they're
• 1:03:51
  definitely cutting him. He's the best veteran
• 1:03:54
  quarterback on the market. I was kind of joking with the
• 1:03:57
  Kyler Murray stuff before, but Kirk Cousins is definitely a guy
• 1:04:01
  The Jets are going to be looking at, as well as probably every
• 1:04:05
  team that is in the same position pining for that next
• 1:04:09
  quarterback, next year. Perhaps they have draft capital.
• 1:04:12
  I think Kirk Cousins is has been really destined to go to the New
• 1:04:16
  York Jets the last couple of years.
• 1:04:18
  They've fallen short and probably at the tail end of his
• 1:04:21
  career for it that it to work. But I, I think Kirk Cousins
• 1:04:25
  makes a lot of sense in the Frank Wright offense, especially
• 1:04:30
  Frank Wright wants to get somebody in a veteran guy that
• 1:04:32
  can run his offense and understand the, the verbiage.
• 1:04:35
  It's a lot. And I, I think Kirk Cousins is
• 1:04:38
  smart guy. So I think it makes a lot of
• 1:04:41
  sense for the New York Jets. But there are other teams
• 1:04:42
  looking for a quarterback. Pittsburgh could be looking for
• 1:04:45
  a quarterback. Maybe Kirk Cousins goes to
• 1:04:46
  Pittsburgh. If Pittsburgh decides to bring
• 1:04:49
  in a rookie quarterback in the first round, AKA Mr. Alabama,
• 1:04:53
  that could happen. But Simpson is not going to be
• 1:04:56
  starting no matter where he gets drafted in the first round.
• 1:04:58
  He's going to back up somebody, a veteran guy.
• 1:05:00
  So I'm going to go Kirk Cousins to The Jets.
• 1:05:03
  I don't see him going anywhere else.
• 1:05:05
  I'll be very surprised if he goes maybe Miami if they can get
• 1:05:09
  rid of Tua and I'm hearing they're going to have to really
• 1:05:13
  cut bait with Tua $90,000,000. That's a lot of money, man.
• 1:05:16
  I I don't see it happening so. Yeah, I think The Jets or the
• 1:05:19
  Steelers, I think either one of those make a lot of sense.
• 1:05:21
  The Steelers obviously if they don't get Aaron Rodgers and
• 1:05:23
  they'll they'll drag it out all, he'll probably drag it out like
• 1:05:25
  did last year. So that probably lessens their
• 1:05:27
  chances compared to The Jets just because of the way they
• 1:05:29
  operate. But yeah, The Jets make a lot of
• 1:05:31
  sense. Frank Reich when he was in
• 1:05:32
  Indianapolis, probably outside of the one year they had went a
• 1:05:34
  lot of these pocket presence quarterbacks with Matt Ryan and
• 1:05:38
  Kirk Cousins kind of fits that bill.
• 1:05:39
  He's aging right now. He's we talked about it last
• 1:05:42
  year, kind of having a borderline Hall of Fame case.
• 1:05:43
  So he's going to want to prove something and I think he does it
• 1:05:45
  with a chance where I don't think anyone has any
• 1:05:48
  expectations for him. All right, well, that is another
• 1:05:51
  episode. Of the whip around, we'll
• 1:05:54
  probably update you once a month in the offseason, every few
• 1:05:58
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• 1:06:02
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• 1:06:05
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• 1:06:08
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• 1:06:41
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  Nothing yet. Nothing yet.
• 1:07:53
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• 1:07:58
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• 1:08:19
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• 1:08:27
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• 1:08:29
  that is also never going to. Happen ever?
• 1:08:33
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• 1:08:36
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