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Beyond 20: By order of the Peaky Blinders! · WASD and Beyond

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Hello everybody. Welcome back to another episode
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of the wasd and beyond beyond episode.
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I should beyond episode it. Is it is I'm stoked.
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We're starting out the year, pretty pretty strongly, I would
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say, I am your host, Nick, accompany me as always is the
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beautiful Evan. This is nice beard that I can't
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grow. So I had to shave my face
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because I look like a fucking moron.
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Yeah, do you mind? Fucking mustache.
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Don't connect enough them. Neither does mine.
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It's garbage fucking garbage. I know this was going dry.
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January, like a bunch of fucking assholes as fuck.
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I'm enjoying it. I'm not stupid admit.
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It is it stupid, though? I don't think it's swell admit.
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It admit what? You know what?
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I don't, I don't need. I don't want whiskey.
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It does sound nice. A little, you want a drink?
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I do, but I don't like you'd only tell you my sleep.
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Fantastic. My sleep has been terrible.
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That's gonna. Well, I have crippling
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alcoholism and we are sponsored by final boss and Doc, long e.
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Check with both out the both gearing up to drop some new
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merch. I don't think there'd be had
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about that plug. They're geared up to drop some
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new merch. Doc is dropping the Gangstar
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shirt. The final boss is shipping out
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all of the half-life orders right now.
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Actually, Eric's already got them all the post, so they're on
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their way to you speaking of Half-Life, I got my hand puppet
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by my Puppet Pal. You got a puppet.
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I did. So I pop it.
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I own hoop. It up a bit and say I'm Gordon
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Freeman puppet though and it's making its round on Reddit right
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now and people are loving it and I'm stoked.
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Thank you again my Puppet Pal. He's actually working on another
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project for me right now in the half-life universe.
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Sweet. Is it G-Man vortigaunt?
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Oh, that's cool. So it's gonna be like you do you
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know how like this Gordon's, like a half body?
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Yeah, same thing. Oh, so like it's going to
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include the vortigaunts stomach arm as well.
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Oh, that'll be cool. So he's like, he's like, listen.
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I just got to figure out a cool way to make it you know to be
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able to like pose it and shit. I'm excited.
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He's like he's really excited to make the eyeball.
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He's like I'm really gonna take my like sweet ass time on the
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I'm dude I'm fucking up to the Gordon Freeman.
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Puppet is dope. If you guys are in the market
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for a puppet hit, my Puppet, Pal up.
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Prices are incredibly reasonable.
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He understands himself, it's, you know, it looks like really
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good dude. It Fucking massive, bro.
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I couldn't put it on. It's not a small.
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I wanted to put it on the same shelf as the gravity gun.
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Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
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You want to all the match? Unlike the same shelf wanted
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because like I could pose the fingers. oh, try to get him to
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hold the the gravity gun, obviously not hold it because
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like that thing weighs 30 pounds, but You know yeah hit
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him up. Hit up doc longing.
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Hit up Final Boss. Awesome.
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Let's do spawn Camp plugs now. Yeah we're professional.
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He's well speaking of just something that you got that I'm
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not gonna be getting the same thing.
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Obviously what I wanted to share, I did get an update on an
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order of my own and since this is a beyond episode, I think it
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kind of works pretty well to talk about it.
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What I'm getting my Funko, Tony Soprano's with the duck thing
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tomorrow. Wow, that's so sick.
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Where the fuck is my Toxic? Avenger mask.
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Oh my God. It never showed up.
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I don't even think I ever got any tracking on it.
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I bought it for you. Don't even look at me.
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Like I didn't buy it for you. I bought it.
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But you're welcome. We're going to do here is right?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Well it's a little late for that the whole new year.
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I don't know where it went. Maybe didn't ship, maybe didn't
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ship. Maybe it was supposed to ship
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by. It was supposed to be there for
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Christmas if they pranked me. You didn't it still have
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pre-order bro it's shit. Begin shipping, January 15th.
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I'm looking at the camera for all the audio listeners, which
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is all of you, just leave it up. That's good.
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Looks we know when one of my shelves to though that's gonna
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look good. But you just you freaked me out
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because you're like, it didn't show up and I'm like, what?
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Like I bought that guy's 23 months ago, six seventy dollar
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mask which he's not have to do. He just did because he's a cool
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fucking friend. Well, you asked for it and I do
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now. I don't think I paid for it.
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I think it pays when it ships. So I'm just going to ask it like
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this. Random deduction of 70 bucks to
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be no fucking pissed. What is this like This here.
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What did I do? Oh my God.
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You're Tony Soprano fucking cops.
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Could be sweet. You bought all The Sopranos
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things that? You know, I didn't get the other
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ones because they were sold at, well, one of them.
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I think it was Chrissy in the track suit.
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That was only a from Walmart and I didn't get it in time.
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Yeah, that kind of sucks. But yeah, that's kind of it.
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Yeah, I don't know where. Okay apparently, I just yet.
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Not yet shift. Please could.
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I have an idea of what while he figures that out, guys.
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Please go ahead and check out the entire spawn Camp you got
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ourselves. And you got build Bros.
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And you got ourselves. Got the build Bros and dignity.
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Be 0 and 0 B 0. I'm try.
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Damn it. Fuck it feel weird about this.
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Anyways, join the server, it's free.
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It's a good time. We watch movies we play video
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games. Watch TV.
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We chat. We do.
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We do a lot in that server. People share their art.
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They share their stores. They share their Gundam bills
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with each other. They get people into other
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Hobbies. Like I know people are trying to
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get the 40K Okay. A little bit right now as well
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they're literally be just like helped Ethan with his computer
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like yeah. Fixing computers of the server.
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Like just just joined have a good time content, breathe call
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it that. I mean we didn't really fix his
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computer. We told him to pour water on it
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so I don't think we're the greatest source of information.
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Don't pour water on. I don't think we did somebody
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yelled at, I don't know if you like followed their
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instructions. Prize Logan.
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Wasn't there be like just fucking come in it.
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That's like all right. Logan, thanks, buddy.
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Thanks Logan, thanks. That's welcome.
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Yeah guys also the guy who broke my arm my microphone aren't boy.
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It was me, go snakes for your tech review, bro.
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I ain't give you no fucking tech review.
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Your I see it in your camera. You're using the same arm.
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He's mad, he's watching. He's like fucking works.
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He's not going with this right now going.
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I can't believe this asshole. Anyways, yeah, check out.
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Check out all the people. I've talked about my Puppet Pal,
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duck, Lonnie final boss also joined The spawn Camp disk or
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check us out on Twitch. YouTube might you won't be
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seeing a lot of Wast on YouTube, right?
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Like you're going to see a lot of build Bros right now was
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you'll get a lot of I guess we'll just nail us out right now
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for what wasd. As I said on Twitter, we're
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going to stick to the audio format.
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Yeah, you'll see us when it's something important.
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Like if something funny happens to a game or if we're streaming
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or if we're doing oh Bo and there's a funny moment.
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O bo is coming back. We're actually restructuring
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this weekend. We're going to be talking about
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restructuring that this weekend. Yeah.
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And a lot of cool stuff is happening so do all that
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followed wasd for more updates. We are soul over the place in
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the first seven minutes. People are like, what the fuck
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is happening? Well, let's make, let's make
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this part short sweet to the point.
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Evan, how was your week been so far?
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What are you playing at? How is 2023 treated you so far?
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Pretty good. I've been slowly whittling down,
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NYX resolved when it comes to dry.
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January. I have been sending him gifts
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and images of people having drinks and smokes topic to this.
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Make it very difficult. Yeah, the I had that feeling as
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well. When I was watching an episode
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the other day, but it's been good.
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I've had great. Great night's sleep.
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Work has been calm, surprise. Ali, even though it's like the
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beginning of the year, I thought it would be pretty hectic.
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It's not been as bad as I thought it would be and I've
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been playing a little bit of. I was just looking at my list
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here and playing some more Thunder.
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Mostly been playing some tarkov with the with the guys when I
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can when I can work myself up to it.
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That's a game that really takes a lot.
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Like you ever, you know how. Like speaking of funny enough
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we're talking about our topic today.
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This kind of relates you know how you'll see in an interview
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actors will be like I had to dig deep to get to this place, you
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know? And like the Bayou that all in,
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well, can be true. I have do the same thing to play
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tarko. Like I got to dig deep to a
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really dark spot of my soul that goes.
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You want to play this, you want to hurt yourself of it.
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Yeah. And you want to hurt yourself
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and you want to not have a good time and then I end up doing it
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and I can't have a good time. And other times I don't like
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yesterday. I had a pretty decent time.
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I had a good couple raids A game now.
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Yeah, much to our dismay. He shouldn't have done that.
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He's just I didn't tell him to do what everyone?
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Blamed me and I tell him to Yeah, it's just it wouldn't be
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surprising for you to tell somebody to buy a game and then
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not but I never play with them. Marauders calls from the dislike
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Marauders. She's been away from go on, go
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on. But yeah, that's what I've been
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doing. I kind of went went on a little
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tear in that game and I went from like level 6 to level 10.
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Now, halfway to 11, trying to get the flea market, trying to
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get the flea market. I just want to get it over and
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done with and then I can call it quits.
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And that I can just be like, yep, now it's all about the
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rubles. Yeah, all about making the
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money's like I don't care have loved all the drama that happens
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to that Community when this thing wiped man, it's so funny.
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Just watch people tear each other apart because I don't
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consider myself a part of that Community.
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I have a casual player of it. I am not a hardcore gamer and
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when it comes to that anyway, and it's the funniest thing
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because if there's any community that really has a strong section
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of like outspoken, people who play it and I guess this goes
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for every FPS or just most games in general.
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But I don't know. I think that the tarkov like all
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day, all nighters just go really.
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They go into people who are Like this isn't suitable for casual
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players and they lose it on people who say that.
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I think it's so funny because I'm one of those people and I
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think you would agree. Yeah, it is not a game for
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casual players. You really have to like if you
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want to succeed and be able to keep up, it feels like you got
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to play it all day and have to keep up with the game.
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It's very, it's really like it's almost like having a fucking
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pet. You got to nurture it and you
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got to nurture your skills with it.
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Like it's Gotta Know, phenomenal.
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These little things agree to do all this, you know, all these
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things that they here's my biggest frustration and I'll
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leave it at that is. The game is designed to be rough
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and like Pard for people, but that eventually is going to
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drive people away. Like you're going to have people
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like right now who love the game when it was in its infancy which
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it kind of still is and you know, you have people like that.
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But then they eventually go, you know, I have a 9:00 to 5:00, I
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can't. And I have kids, or I have, you
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know, this other thing I do this after, you know, work and I'm
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not able to play it and, and do good, and I'm not able to
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succeed. And then you have people who go.
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Well, I have the same things you do, but I'm level 30 or, you
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know, and then you have people who are like wife, like 20 hours
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a day and I'm like level 67. And it's like, yeah, that stuff
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inherently doesn't matter to the guy who just said that he can't
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play all day. Like, he doesn't really like,
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it's not, it's not. You it's me like it's not about
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what you can do in the same amount of time.
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It's about the fact that the majority of people can't do
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that, like the majority of people can't can't work, a
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nine-to-five, have a kid and then come sit down and play for
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three hours and level up, three, or four times.
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It's very difficult. You can't like most people can't
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do that. Some people can and that's
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great. But like for me, I I work from
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8:00 to 5:00, I don't have kids, I don't have anything else crazy
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to do. I only play for three, maybe
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two, Maybe three hours a night. If I'm lucky when it comes to
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that game and I'm still only level 10 like I just said, yeah,
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I had to think about it and it's like growing.
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You have other people who. Yeah.
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And then you have other people who play it.
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Constantly are all day or like 8, 10 hours a day, and they're,
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you know, 10, 20 levels ahead of you.
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But this is a game that punishes players who aren't able to play
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all day. Yeah, like because you don't
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have good gear and you don't have, you know, the the good
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Bullets to kill people. You don't have the good armor to
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survive and all that kind of stuff.
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And I don't know, I think it's a very fun game when it wants to
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be. And then other times, you have
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audio where you're watching some guy, move on your left and you
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hear them through your right, 20 meters away.
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When he's actually five meters to your left and the fact that
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that's still not fixed, and it's been two weeks.
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Oh, no cake. Oh, that's what you're about to
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say something wise. Want to be like, no, no, they
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said this was updated on you. Oh my God, they did.
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Well, they like the would like, people are just like, the audios
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just different. It's not even like it's broken.
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Its broken. Its broken different and it's
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like, it's 100% broken. Like people are like, oh, we'll
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wait till they introduced steam audio and you can have by now,
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it's like it's still. Okay?
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But I'm I have it off and it still sounds like shit.
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So locate as fuck right now, and people saw that there was a
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performance decrease, if you had the binary audio on, did you see
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that by 40 FPS? Somebody said, yeah you lose Use
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FPS and you don't even get better.
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Audio stupid for not rocking this all like a 40 90 and you're
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trying to like which most people aren't know, most people are not
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but if you try and do that if you don't have that, you're
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trying to like Rock the game with old-school there.
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The it's got cool features, there's no says, there's no
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denying that, absolutely, it's doing a lot of cool things but
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like that they're not I feel like it's an optimization thing
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right now. They're pushing so much out, but
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by doing that they're shooting themselves in the foot.
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Yeah, no, I agree. Like its funds, my exciting, but
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I want it to, I want it to be better, and I want to like, you
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know, we have good systems ourselves and yet the game can
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run like shit. And when this game runs like,
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shit, you're really punished. If you're fighting somebody who
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doesn't have FPS issues, you know, I've been very fortunate
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to be hitting the 70s Low Mark and 115 high right on the
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streets. Which has been insane?
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I, yeah, I don't know some other Maps I've been able to run fine.
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It's just rates which could be for a lot of reasons.
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You know, I'm not going to try and narrow it down, but no, it's
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a fun game. It's just rough sometimes and I
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want it to be better. And like I said, I just love
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watching this community. We fight because it's so funny.
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Oh yeah, it's just like you're all argue.
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It's like you're all sweaty but you're arguing.
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And over whose sweat is worse. It's like, you know, your all
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your all arguing. And it's just the best thing to
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watch. Like it's not, maybe that's a
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car, Bad Karma moment for me, but like it's, no, no, you're
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fine. We've talked about this.
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It's pretty funny watching. People get mad about things like
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that. It's like, you all you've both
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of you just didn't play this game all day.
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It's nothing incredible. Dude, not impressed, sorry.
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But yeah, how's your house? Your house, your 2023 been
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treating, you fucking tired. Fucking tired already.
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I want it. I want this year to be over
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already. Congratulations.
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You are the ugliest. We're not making that joke on
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this show. It's a good joke though.
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I'm tired man. Works been kicking my ass
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mentally physically, but My wife is noticed that she's like go
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play games. Go build Gundam.
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Get out which I've been building a lot of Gundam.
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I jacked not a lot, but I finished a kid working on one.
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Yeah, I finished. Its we tied, it was a masquerade
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unicorn and it's super fun. Super relaxing for my mind.
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I have some time. You know, ADHD, right?
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Yeah, I don't take medicine for it cuz I don't like how I do it.
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I'm not getting into it. I don't like the medicine that
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is provided right now. Free HD.
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So something like that. Calms me down.
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Same as like video games. But like in the gaming aspect
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things I've been playing tarkov having a blast.
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Even though I get I've been getting my ass kicked by been
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pulling off some stupid things that everyone's like you
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shouldn't be doing that. Same Counter Strike the other a
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couple weeks ago. But oh yeah, yeah.
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And I read downloaded Quake Champions.
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I saw your plan that yesterday. There's been a Resurgence in the
18:13
community I guess. And I was like, okay, well, I'll
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try again, blast, had a fucking blast.
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Last like I'm not obviously like same with Counter-Strike.
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I'm not as good as I used to be but also having a good time with
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it and that's all that matters to me at this point.
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I'm happy. Yeah, it's super fucking fun and
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that I've been watching a lot of television.
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Under your advice to you. My advice that has finally been
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heated. Yes, we actually have been
18:44
watching it in the Discover for the most part.
18:49
I Got Ants in My Pants and I skipped ahead a morning on
18:52
season 2. So again, this is a beyond
18:55
episode and we are the first beyond episode of 2023 which is
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cool in my opinion because in 2022, we really didn't do a lot
19:04
of these. No, we didn't end and there's
19:06
going to be a lot of Beyond episodes for the beginning of
19:09
the year because we not only have this show, but we also have
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the Last of Us on Sunday. It does that count as a beyond
19:14
episode because it's a fucking video game.
19:17
I'd say, just because it's a TV show.
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Did we treat Halo as a beyond episode?
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I believe we did okay then yeah, that would be and it's so far
19:24
removed from the actual games of Halo that.
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I think it really warrants that Beyond.
19:28
Yeah, I write, if we do, if we did a Halo episode tomorrow, I
19:31
wouldn't want to like about the games.
19:33
I wouldn't want to say that these These two are in the same
19:36
category because in one, we get to see Master Chief, the Chad,
19:41
take down an entire alien race and in the other we see Master
19:45
Chief's cheeks. So yeah, there's a lot of but in
19:48
the show, no need for gratuitous, but action in the
19:51
show unheard of on earnestly and honestly, with the last of us so
19:57
far, we're not, we don't, we have to see the show.
19:59
Obviously, we're not cool enough to get fucking review copies and
20:01
go to the screenings because we're come on small podcast.
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Come on. I wish I'd cry.
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I'm a, what? I can't go to briefly touch on
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this. Yeah, it's being called a
20:12
masterpiece. It got a 9 on IGN it.
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Guide on Rotten Tomatoes, 100 percent on Rotten Tomatoes.
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Yeah, every critic that has been like, was able to review and got
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got it, posted two Rotten Tomatoes.
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It has a 100% consensus, Dude. Down, I read, I can't believe
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that a 97 now. Okay, so there was but there was
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what and so it says out of what 27 28 reviews I'm looking right
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now. So you score.
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Do you usually I think it said 26 last time and it was at 100.
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It's not so now. Well, I'm sure I'll see it on
20:47
Twitter. But yeah, so yeah, it's sitting
20:50
really pretty up there with the critics which is pretty nice.
20:53
The IGN one was a pretty nice read because the person who
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wrote it I for the like me do not remember their name, I feel
20:59
bad but they said that, you know, as a fan of the games who
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has played them multiple times over /.
21:04
This is a faithful adaptation it.
21:08
Like we were worried again just to briefly touch on it.
21:12
We were worried about some of the choices we heard of like how
21:14
and episodes dedicated to Bill and Frank, we really only see a
21:17
little bit in the game. You don't, you don't even see
21:19
the only see Bill and like other things like that.
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And what this person had said was, you know, this is great
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because it does exactly what an adaptation supposed to do.
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Which is sprinkle More story while not changing the way that
21:39
the original story was created and flowed and played, you know.
21:43
Like there isn't a lot of violence from what I've heard.
21:46
There's a lot of the Fallout of violence that you hear and see,
21:49
but there's not a lot of actual violence in show.
21:51
As bad as like, the games were not as bad, but like not as much
21:54
because the games were pretty much.
21:56
It's a filler, right? Like, you are traveling through
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this area and fight in them because it's a way to get to the
22:01
next beat. Yeah.
22:02
Whereas, you know, Which kids kind of like really for way of
22:06
comparing. It's kind of like a Marvel movie
22:10
where you mostly go there for the action and the story just
22:12
gets you to the next action piece, right?
22:15
Like. And that's kind of how the games
22:17
in a sense can be. If you look at it that way,
22:20
whereas the show obviously doesn't have to do because we're
22:22
already along for the ride and we're not doing anything with
22:24
our hands. We're just watching the show
22:26
other than, you know, pop on some popcorn into that mouth
22:29
while you watch it but that's a space.
22:32
There you go. No, but that's for next week.
22:37
Yes. Today we're taking it back in
22:39
time now. Back to the future.
22:41
Sorry, that's kind of a reference that could have been
22:43
seen. We're going back.
22:44
Even further 1919, baby? Birmingham, the UK?
22:49
Not in Michigan. No, we're not going Birmingham,
22:51
Michigan. I'm not rich enough for that.
22:54
My blood. We're in peaky.
22:58
Blinders that? Oh, that's kind of redo that.
23:02
No that's it. Damn, that's it.
23:05
You get one shot. You got one shot.
23:07
You blew it dude. Eminem said.
23:08
So yeah, we're talking about peaky.
23:11
Blinders. And this is we're specifically
23:15
season one and we're not going to.
23:17
I wouldn't say, we're gonna go into the nitty-gritty.
23:19
I'm gonna have Evan definitely give a recap but we're mostly
23:22
going to be talking. I think what you have, we have
23:24
to give a recap on season one. Spoiler alert. but, Wow, I can't
23:29
believe I slept on the show. The words have been waiting to
23:34
hear him. Say god, dammit, dude.
23:37
Like the show is fucking insane, right?
23:41
Yeah, so let's let's go right into the fucking recap who's in
23:44
the show who directed it and then we'll start talking.
23:48
All right. Cool.
23:49
So yeah, the show takes place just after World War One, our
23:53
entire most of our cast. At least the ultimen are all
23:57
related. They are the Shelby Others.
23:59
You have Tommy shell, we played by Killian Murphy, who is in
24:03
this year's Oppenheimer. I actually wanted to bring this
24:06
up. I had a lucid dream about that
24:08
movie yesterday. I think I'm like rocking on.
24:10
Keep it rolling anyway. You have Tommy Shelby, who's the
24:15
I believe the Middle Brother maybe that'll Arthur.
24:19
Yeah you have Arthur she'll be the oldest played by Paul
24:22
Anderson is well-behaved little child.
24:25
Yeah, writing as well Arthur's. The oldest and kind of the most
24:28
Brad. Rash, like mad, doggy ear up
24:30
headedness. You have, John, Shelby, who is
24:35
played by Joe Cole. He is the younger brother, but
24:38
not the youngest, and then you have thin Shelby who I do.
24:40
Not remember who plays him in the phrasing because he's a
24:42
child. He's like 10.
24:45
He's also, he's not in the show very often.
24:47
He shows up later and other Seasons.
24:49
He basically just sits on the stairs in the fucking Pub.
24:52
Yeah. And tries and runs around city
24:54
of shit. Yeah.
24:55
Yeah. So you have them, you have Gray,
24:59
who is their aunt? And like the the heart of the
25:03
family, The Matrix she was played issue is played by Helen
25:07
McCrory. Who is a since passed away.
25:10
You have a de Thorn. Our ETA, she'll be sorry, I
25:16
remember who plays her I do. Remember that all the cast
25:18
members and little guy, an overcast, whatever your face
25:20
enough about. But anyway, but anyway, the show
25:23
is basically about a gang called the peaky blinders in 1919
25:27
Birmingham, who are Lead by Tommy Shelby and they for the
25:33
first season for the most part, they work on illegal bets on
25:36
racetracks and it's racing and it's through Tommy's direction
25:41
through the first season in subsequent Seasons, where he
25:44
tries to just lead this family into the new era where they
25:48
were, kind of like they're a gang.
25:50
There are there a Birmingham gang, they're pretty much seen
25:52
as a lowlifes. They're also like half Roman
25:54
agency, so they're also looked down upon for things like that.
26:00
and it's through this first season, they are kind of hunted
26:03
and beaten certainly and and maimed in some ways by a
26:11
Inspector who is known for like some pretty horrible things that
26:14
happened in Belfast. Obviously, during this time in
26:16
the UK, this lot of upheaval with the II ra and you know it's
26:20
at just after or one. So it's pretty much just a
26:22
terrible time to be alive in especially in Birmingham where
26:25
it's mostly just cold and you know bad things going into your
26:29
lungs and drinking and smoking and prostitution and all that
26:32
stuff. Last podcast would say
26:33
everything sucked in life was hard.
26:36
Yes. Now, that's pretty much the
26:38
perfect way to put it unless you're a shell.
26:40
Unless you shall be debatable. I don't know, man.
26:44
When you see that first, you see that first.
26:46
Like I think it's like a 4-minute, a tracking shot 1 take
26:49
of Tommy and the horse walking through the streets.
26:52
Every the cops step out of the way.
26:54
And yeah but even the bullshit that comes with being a Shelby
26:57
as well Wisher. Season 2 gets a little bit hairy
27:00
great. Oh yes absolutely.
27:02
It's we want to tell you it's absolutely but so what the
27:07
premise of the first season other than what I've already
27:09
described is that they come Find a shipment of stolen guns.
27:12
That was meant to go to a Middle Eastern country where the
27:16
British are currently fighting. Because at this time Britain
27:18
still controlled a big part of the world and they the peaky,
27:22
blinders steal this shipment of guns.
27:25
This inspector who is played by Sam, Neill of Jurassic Park,
27:28
Fame also he comes after them trying to find the guns for
27:33
Winston, Churchill, and that leads to this sort of, I have
27:37
guns. You don't know where the guns
27:38
are at, and, but I'll give them. To you if you give me things,
27:42
it's a little bit of a battle of the minds and bodies between
27:45
Tommy and inspector Campbell and also a little like cool cool
27:51
person named Grace who is Tommy's love interest who also
27:58
by the end of the seasons his love it becomes his love denture
28:01
becomes his love interest and by the end of the season or well to
28:04
us, the viewer is revealed pretty early on that.
28:07
She is also a agent of the crown as she would say.
28:10
And she is trying to find the stolen guns as well.
28:13
And she in the middle of it falls in love with Tommy but is
28:17
also outed as an agent of the crown Who Tommy, which kind of
28:21
separates them. And so that's kind of an easy
28:26
recap I guess without touching on.
28:28
Maybe the more important bits of people want to watch it, it's a
28:33
pretty great season honestly, for a first season, it's got
28:36
some pretty great music. I would say, the music is really
28:39
yummy. And Like red, right?
28:41
Hand is a great theme for that show.
28:43
I don't know if I've ever heard of theme better than maybe The
28:46
Sopranos theme. Yeah, I can.
28:48
Then I would say those are pretty much for me.
28:50
Anyway, kind of tied, I think they work out pretty well
28:53
especially because for The Sopranos because it was an
28:55
earlier show, you also had it. It was the same intro every
28:58
time, whereas red right hand plays over whatever they wanted
29:01
for that episode yet, which I also think works really well in
29:05
its favor going to show how Showdown, no because and what Me
29:10
to also recommend it to everybody.
29:12
It's very easily digestible. It's six episodes per season and
29:15
now, if you want to an hour each, so you could finish an
29:19
entire season in a day and still have some time left.
29:22
Whereas, like, I think I was talking to Nick before if you
29:25
wanted to start watching like The Walking Dead right now.
29:27
Okay. You have 100 episodes to go have
29:30
fun. Whereas this is 36.
29:33
Yeah. You know and and you get through
29:35
it pretty quick. I mean I'm already I think I
29:36
started watching season one with you and I've I'm like, halfway
29:41
through season 4, what does it stick?
29:43
That's just how quick you can go through.
29:45
I've already shot multiple times but I've been re-watching it
29:48
again with Nick and by myself. But yeah so the premise and
29:53
that's kind of weirdos every subsequent season.
29:55
A couple years passed by. I can't particularly think of
29:59
any Seasons that take place right after one another aside
30:03
from 5 to 6, okay? Those are pretty much instant
30:08
continuations whereas like season. 22 is I think a couple
30:11
years two to three is a couple years and three to four is a
30:16
year and then four to five and remember.
30:19
But anyways, Tommy she'll be one of the coolest anti-heroes I've
30:26
ever seen in a TV show, honestly Rivals your, I mean, he's got
30:31
like, the brains of Walter White.
30:34
But this, but he doesn't have like this physicality, like,
30:37
Tony Soprano, or Rick Grimes or anything like that.
30:40
I like geralt's from The Witcher.
30:41
I know that's not like a TV show.
30:42
That's really always been to come to that franchise, but as
30:45
an example, he's not physically the toughest in the room.
30:49
Sometimes. She's just so goddamn smart and
30:53
he's iron-willed as well though. That's the thing.
30:55
Like he determines willing to put a lot on the line.
30:59
Like he'll put his own life, is truly remarkable and he does the
31:05
I'm the quiet guy, but just because I'm quiet, doesn't mean
31:09
you should count me out because I'm always calculating.
31:12
I'm always going to be a step ahead of you.
31:13
Even if you win right now, you didn't win and he does that a
31:17
lot in the series so far. Even right now is he's into, I'm
31:21
only on the third episode. Even if you're winning, you're
31:24
not winning. You may beat him up.
31:26
You may fuck him up. You may blow up his Pub.
31:29
May do this. You may do that.
31:31
But he's always had, he's, he's, he's already ahead.
31:36
He's allowed you to get to this point.
31:37
And that's what I enjoy about this character.
31:40
He's not just a stupid Thug and it's talked about a lot.
31:43
It's hey, he is a war hero. Yeah, he's nice.
31:48
That's wonderful. That's why they're doing this?
31:51
A lot in the first season he is that is often brought up as an
31:55
as of and in the second place smokes opium.
31:58
Yeah. And and in the third season,
31:59
it's brought up pretty, not fairly often, but it's
32:02
definitely mentioned where it's like, oh, you were a war hero
32:04
and it's like, yeah. I was like and that's I think a
32:09
great idea to is the show for being in the time period.
32:12
It is. I was surprised watching it
32:14
again. How often it spends time on.
32:17
The women of the show, you know, how often it spent time looking
32:20
at Poly and Ada in the first season, Ada has a baby and
32:24
they're talking about getting rid of it and there's a great,
32:26
like, I think five ten minutes scene where Polly explains to
32:29
Ada, what happened? When Polly had an abortion and
32:32
how she almost died. And it's like, that's also not
32:35
something you really would expect to see in a show that is
32:39
at this point, like, at that point in time, that wasn't
32:43
really talked about it back. Then obviously also a man I
32:47
hate, it's a man's world. It was a man's world.
32:49
That was women were singing Mary.
32:51
Children were saying Mary, if you weren't a boy and there's a
32:54
lot of time and in subsequent Seasons to where there are some,
32:59
there are some characters in The later Seasons that I don't
33:01
really like, I think By Design, but you can see where they're
33:05
coming from and you can see their points.
33:07
Yeah. And that sets up, this great
33:09
Dynamic to of, of just, I just love how they handle people in
33:14
the show. They handle, you know.
33:17
There's not a lot of topics that come up in terms of like
33:20
anything related to lgbtq stuff. It's mostly men and women and
33:24
those are tight like power dynamics between men and women.
33:27
And and honestly how Tommy just doesn't give a shit and like
33:31
that's kind of the beauty of it. Is that he is, he's one of those
33:35
people who respects everybody until they cross him, but he's
33:40
not a bigot in any sense, right? Like he's he's not a bad dude.
33:44
Well, and full, yeah, going, yeah, no.
33:46
I was Gonna say along with that, it is pretty interesting.
33:50
I think you brought up a great point of how the show also deals
33:53
with how at the time, the government and Britain, and just
33:55
the World At Large sent Millions upon millions of men to die in
33:59
the trenches and they get back in like that's as you put it.
34:03
The reason that they're gangsters is because that's the
34:05
weight of the Highlight because you can't work in a coal Factory
34:08
because in at a cofactor you get what at the time?
34:11
It would have been. A couple dollars a day.
34:14
You know, something like that Lucy's day to yeah exactly.
34:18
When you're working you have no perspective of regulations back
34:21
then. Yeah.
34:21
No shit. Yeah.
34:22
You lose your arm, you lose, you know you die or you just inhaled
34:25
a black smoke, all day died of black lung, every character
34:28
aside from the Shelby's pretty much in any of their buddies or
34:32
like crew, most of the people they talk to aside from them in
34:34
the coppers are covered in Black like covered in but you know
34:39
they're wearing just overalls. They've got their head to toe.
34:42
So covered in Black just coal and dust and everything.
34:45
So it really shows that to of, yeah, this is the Industrial
34:47
Revolution and the people just got done fighting award that
34:52
realistically didn't do anything.
34:53
It just moved lines back and forth and gave a bunch of and
34:56
PTSD. And that's one of the defining
35:00
things of the show as well that they say in the first season is
35:03
the song they sing or the song they sang, you'll know about
35:06
that later Seasons. But that's when when Tommy says
35:08
In The Bleak Midwinter, that's the song they sang when they
35:11
were in sir. Part of the war.
35:13
And that's another thing that's brought up to is, you know, they
35:16
say nobody came back, everybody that you see that went to war is
35:19
dead. We view time.
35:21
Somebody talks about their medals.
35:22
What did you with your medals? I threw it in the cut.
35:24
I think we're gonna throw him in the river.
35:26
Yeah, they got rid of them because they just were like this
35:28
wasn't worth it. Like reminder, they don't want
35:30
to be reminded of that. And that's a pretty interesting
35:32
Dynamic that happens with inspector Campbell.
35:34
Because inspector Campbell wasn't at War, so they all kind
35:37
of go to war. So they don't, they all think
35:39
shit. I'm all the time, love that.
35:42
You know, yeah. Watching Tommy interact is and I
35:47
love. Oh, I love all the Shelby
35:48
Brothers. I really do.
35:49
They're all dynamic in their own way.
35:52
They're fleshed out there aren't.
35:54
There is incredibly Dynamic, and there's actually a pretty tough
35:57
scene that hit me is with Arthur and his father, Arthur and the,
36:01
the boy's Father Arthur senior. Yeah, yeah.
36:04
Arthur senior. This is a tough scene to watch.
36:07
Have you ever had like a parent that you're like that?
36:09
But it makes sense to see why Arthur is the way he is.
36:11
He's a feels abandoned, right? Like everyone's always looking
36:15
over him to look at Tommy, it's wild but looking at Tommy as a
36:19
character himself, like they aren't necessarily the good
36:23
guys, but they're also not the bad guys and Tommy.
36:25
And his brothers have this Duality about them, where it's
36:28
at, they will fucking cut your tongue out and slice you up.
36:32
But there is an honor code, it's but it's not Mafia honor code,
36:36
right? There's there's different things
36:38
that they're willing to do and there's different things are
36:40
willing to not cross. There's lines that they will not
36:42
cross and Yeah, bring it up Tommy does respect everybody and
36:47
so you cross him and he has a use for everybody.
36:50
If you show him and prove to him, you have use you will get
36:53
back from Tommy, you know. Yeah.
36:56
And Tom, he's a man of the community 100% even if he
36:59
doesn't always show it so far, you know, he's the one who has
37:02
the Bugattis. Oh, yeah guys.
37:06
Yes. Yeah.
37:07
Ada says so like, you know, He has his own way of dealing with
37:12
shit and doing things that I enjoy watching him.
37:14
Do I think he's a great character.
37:16
I think all the brothers are, I think a lot of these characters
37:19
are even Grace. At first like, oh cool, should
37:21
be to die. Dimensionals for one-dimensional
37:22
as fuck. She's not, ya know she's got a
37:25
lot of yeah oh yeah, they've all.
37:27
That's the thing too, right. You'd think that for a show
37:29
that's only six episodes per season.
37:31
You think these characters would be pretty bland and like, like
37:35
pin but it's not crammed, it's all, that's the thing timed and
37:39
spaces. Everything hits at the right
37:41
moment side. That's what I'm on right now.
37:43
I'm like, you know, because we were recording the night so I
37:46
was like, fuck, let me just eat and get some this.
37:48
Don't watch some of this. I like I don't want to fucking
37:50
record this episode. Right.
37:51
Now what I want to finish the season, you want to finish it
37:53
because you could finish it and it, you would have time.
37:56
Like, you know, that is still probably hop on tonight play
37:58
some games. Oh, yeah, absolutely.
38:00
Well, that's the end. That's the thing that I love
38:02
about it too. And Tommy is single-handedly one
38:05
of, just my favorite characters because like you said, he's a
38:09
very quiet. Person.
38:10
He doesn't feel the need to constantly be Brash and let
38:13
people know but that's what I love is I compare and I
38:16
shouldn't but I compare him to the Walter White's in the Don
38:19
Draper's and the Tony Soprano's and he is the quietest of them
38:23
all and yet he doesn't ever blunder like no like you'd see
38:28
like Tony Soprano. Absolutely blunders.
38:30
Like he just hasn't he is designed.
38:33
Some episodes are designed to show how stupid he is like Fred
38:37
Flintstone bro. Yeah, he is exactly like, you
38:39
know, See in mad when I know you haven't seen that show.
38:42
But like, Don Draper is a great character in the sense of he's
38:45
so conflicted and he makes these terrible decisions that he knows
38:48
is going to fire back on him, same with Walter White.
38:50
He's smart as hell, but he's not until the later Seasons.
38:55
He's a middle-aged, you know, he's a guy science teacher.
38:58
Yeah, he's a guy like, whereas Tommy has, he's got this PTSD,
39:03
he's got this, this stair about him, and that's all I was too,
39:07
though. Yeah.
39:08
And that's what then is. What I love about him is that He
39:11
he says so much with just his eyes and he's not yeah, he's not
39:15
the one really sad eyes too. Oh yeah.
39:18
Well, he's got some great, he's got some great lines in the
39:20
first season that I really love. I love his, he's not this
39:25
bravado type of person but it's like when you you love to see
39:30
him out smart people because he does it in a way that like as an
39:33
example in the first season. Second episode, he gets into a
39:36
fight with a clan of gypsies called the Lee Brothers and they
39:39
go to war. And they go to war and while
39:43
they're at War, Tommy crosses Billy Kimber, who's a owner and
39:47
like, dude, who runs a bunch of illegal betting on racetracks.
39:51
He crosses Billy Billy shows up to their Pub and says, you've
39:56
been messing with my shit. Now I'm going to kill you and
39:58
Tommy goes no, no no, no. I'm in a war with your enemy and
40:02
your enemies been stealing your bedding at, you know, your legal
40:04
like racetrack stuff and all your money.
40:07
So why don't we work together? And then in doing So he gets his
40:11
brother Mary, Mary has to, yeah, to a gypsy and who is a member
40:17
of the leek land. So now because they're married,
40:20
they're now together, they're bonded.
40:23
So then their amber comes. Yeah.
40:25
Yeah. It's like and it's like, so you
40:28
don't even back and forth that you wouldn't even recognize it
40:31
until it's done. And you're like, what a genius,
40:34
like, what the foresight to pull all that off?
40:38
Well, that scene itself. Let's, let's tackle that see
40:40
because that's a lot to unpack. So, There's this there they go
40:45
to the race and there's this huge distraction and Tommy
40:50
basically gives Grace to Billy Kimber.
40:54
Oh yeah, that's shows. But we're also going to go to
40:57
something else after this. I'm just talking about that.
40:59
I want to bring up The Duality of Tommy really quick.
41:01
Oh yeah, definitely. He's willing to sacrifice things
41:04
at any cost people. Yeah, he just he is.
41:10
And everyone brings up all the time.
41:11
There's one thing you've got everything.
41:13
Tommy, you have everything, but love you will never be loved.
41:16
Yeah, he is loved and he is in love, and he goes.
41:20
Yeah, just take her for an out to.
41:21
I'll give her to you for two hours.
41:22
I'll give you Grace for two hours.
41:24
She's like, what the fuck? And as she's like at kimber's
41:28
house about to be, she's boppy, raped, honestly, yeah, 100%.
41:32
She is, luckily, she's a strong enough character and strong
41:35
enough woman to be like I'm not, you're not going to rape me, I'm
41:37
going to kill you for a nap. She was grabbing it.
41:39
That gun? Yeah, I think she was gonna kill
41:41
Kimber. Regardless, but taalib us into
41:44
ghosts. Whoa.
41:46
Takes you back sees that we're not doing this?
41:48
Yeah, it's just an awesome scene because I'm Grace can see like
41:51
he is not this person inspector gambled because Grace is the
41:55
liaison for inspector gamble. Heard about this entire thing.
41:59
Yes, reporting back to him. She sells Tommy out with the
42:02
grave, which that's another funny fucking moment in the
42:05
show. We'll get into that.
42:06
I'm sure in a minute. And she fucks him over and I
42:11
think he always knew that it was her but whatever.
42:16
And it just shows Who Tommy is he goes no, you can't fuck Grace
42:20
like we're going home. And she said, that isn't the way
42:24
he does, it is so funny because he knows, Billy's gonna look at
42:28
him and be like, that's weird for you to pull it back.
42:29
So he goes, no, no, I was gonna let you go through with sword
42:32
and spear but in spirit of our good relationship, she has the
42:35
clap. Yeah.
42:36
She's a whore. She has the clap is what he says
42:38
basically. Yeah.
42:39
And she's looking at him like what the fuck and he's like, you
42:42
know, that's a that's a nice guy right there to look out for me
42:44
like that. And it's like he's totally
42:46
crushed, you came from have. Does the yeah yeah he does that
42:51
gross look like For me it's like you were you were gonna do
42:54
something nasty to her anyway but I bring that up to bring the
42:58
up. The next scene is Ada has a baby
43:00
with Freddy Thorn. Freddie Thorne is in jail.
43:02
At this point, still believe her being a communist you know, he's
43:07
already out of this point. He gets arrested for being a
43:09
communist hungry, come out and here is where it gets fucking
43:12
wild. The Kimber gang comes to
43:15
Birmingham to fucking destroy the Shelby's.
43:18
That's it. They're killing the peaky.
43:19
Blinders, they meet up in the streets.
43:21
They're basically. All right.
43:22
Right. All right.
43:23
Yeah but I mean this whole thing but yeah the cops are told to
43:27
stand down. Do not fucking let them kill
43:29
each other. Both of them by camel can fuck
43:32
the kimber's and fuck the Shelby's.
43:34
Let them all kill each other. Yeah.
43:36
And Ada the sister rolls into the battle in between the battle
43:41
with a baby with her baby and I'm not move this baby Tommy's
43:45
like get the fucking baby out of here.
43:47
Yeah Kimberly Kim. It shows the two types of
43:50
gangsters we are working with Kimber goes, I don't give a fuck
43:54
about that baby and fires. Yeah, it's Tommy.
43:57
Tommy goes, fuck you. And just blows his fucking head.
44:01
Yes. It's just just just just yeah
44:03
well and that's she makes a great point to, right.
44:06
She's a people who will mourn you.
44:08
Yeah. And she goes you know you know
44:09
where I'm at your, I'm standing in no man's land.
44:12
Yeah. And you know and she makes some
44:15
she makes this great impassioned speech about how all you were
44:17
told to do. For the past four years was by
44:19
somebody. You never met who told you to
44:21
run up over the hill and die. And Billy goes yeah why should
44:25
it should just be those who have caused it and in doing so tries
44:27
to get the upper hand on, Tommy shooting him in the like upper
44:30
chest area. And Tommy goes, fuck me, fuck.
44:34
You shoots him in the head, kills him and tells the all of
44:37
the kimber's men, fuck off. I'll just leave, You've Lost
44:42
That. Sophia, somebody is wearing
44:43
black for you tonight. Pretty much that.
44:45
Yeah, she says, someone who will be wearing black for us.
44:49
Yeah, exactly. And you, and you, and they're
44:50
all like, oh, this sucks. Sucks.
44:53
Yeah we're all kind of, they're all kind of like you know, I
44:56
don't know about it. And the funny thing is is I
44:58
think you saw more of kimber's men ready to stand down.
45:01
Then you saw any of the Shelby's like Fred.
45:04
If there was all, that was an automatic machine gun.
45:07
Yeah. It when you had I loved, I loved
45:09
Jeremiah who's like they're their priests who also gives
45:11
them information about he rolling into town and whatnot
45:14
and I love when they offer him a gun and he said he says, I know
45:17
you told God you never pick up a weapon again, but can you make
45:19
an exception in Jeremiah goes, God doesn't deal with small
45:22
Heath. So I love that.
45:24
I love that line. And that's the that's another
45:26
thing. It's got incredible writing for
45:28
what it is for. Being it's all written by
45:31
Stephen, it's all written by Stephen McKnight.
45:33
I believe he had help on the first season and then after the
45:35
first and like half of the 2nd distr just wrote it all by
45:38
himself, which is like as you get to, which is, as you get
45:41
through the seasons, you got one guy has this whole story and he
45:45
still not done. We're getting a movie.
45:47
We're getting like a feature-length movie.
45:48
That's going to wrap up the entire series, which I
45:51
personally, really enjoy. It's going to it's kind of sad
45:53
because it's one of those shows where I wish there was more, but
45:56
if I got more, I probably wouldn't like it as much as I
45:58
do. It's just like telling us.
45:59
Oh they're ending on season 3 for a reason.
46:02
Yeah, exactly. Well and it's like, what this
46:04
to, I mean, you know, and subsequent Seasons just blow
46:07
your mind even more because it's again, Tommy is and and you'll
46:12
see what I mean. Once you finish it and I can't
46:14
really speak on it now, but Tommy is different from all the
46:17
characters we've discussed. In terms of a main actor like a
46:20
leading man and one Very distinct way and you'll see it
46:24
and you're going to see it in the second season.
46:26
You're going to see it in the third, you're going to, like,
46:27
you'll start to get an idea by the end of each season, exactly
46:30
what type of person he is. But he has just some of these,
46:35
the, the most badass lines I've heard.
46:38
And also some of the saddest, when not always says when Grace
46:43
says, hey, you know, I'd like to sing.
46:45
What song do you want to hear? Happy or sad and he goes sad.
46:48
She goes I warn you, it'll break your heart and he goes sorry
46:50
broken and it's like he Leaves it at that.
46:53
And then he has, you know, the same thing with inspector
46:57
Campbell where he's just got these lines of like acid but
47:01
they're just fed in such a way of, like, it's pretty casual guy
47:04
to just say that, you know, he means business without having
47:06
all this. He never changes his emotions,
47:09
right? Like, he can be the most, the
47:11
time you see, Tommy is either like normal, like, which is his
47:14
just not paying attention face. I'm somewhere else and I'm
47:17
thinking about five steps ahead of everybody or he's angry.
47:20
There are very few A few moments in the show, especially in the
47:26
later Seasons, where he's genuinely smiling.
47:29
Genuinely a happy person doesn't have no.
47:33
And honestly, I feel incredibly bad for you because this is the
47:38
This is the End of the Road in terms of his enjoyment of life.
47:41
It's not it only. It's one of those things where
47:44
it's like all these shows right are like oh it gets worse.
47:47
So you know this happens in this happens in this happens and it's
47:50
like this sort of the same thing happens.
47:53
But you just never get tired of watching Tommy, be Tommy and yet
47:57
while of the character so fucking much.
47:59
He's not he's unapologetically him one.
48:02
By the end of the show to like towards the, by the end of the
48:05
third season, you should probably just start.
48:07
You could, you could honestly start predicting, what Tommy's
48:09
going to do every season and yet, by the end of every season,
48:12
you're still surprised that it happens.
48:15
It's the optical sight we get. Yeah, I can see.
48:17
Yeah, like and just to take away, not take away from Tommy,
48:21
but to go to some of the other Characters.
48:23
The, the brothers gets so fleshed out and Polly gets so
48:26
flushed out and she's just such an incredible character to
48:31
listen to, and she's hilarious. She's so funny.
48:36
But she's also so, honestly Rivals, Tommy in terms of her
48:40
sadness, like white are cutting this.
48:44
Oh my God, she's incredibly, she's so smart and she's really
48:48
urgent care. She's so badass, like she is,
48:51
she is right up there with Tommy and Terms of the badass line
48:54
she's got I can't think of any from season one that I really
48:57
can. The only one I love that I can
48:59
think of right now is how she hits John with his gun and says
49:05
it nearly blew. It has tits off.
49:07
Yes, it was loaded and Finn was playing with it.
49:10
And so she's, she's got the same great lines to where he Tommy
49:13
Burns, Freddy's letter to Ada, like confessing his love for her
49:17
and she's like, damn you for what you, they did to you in
49:19
France, and he's just looking at her like Not exactly how that
49:23
would have gone, you know, lady come on.
49:26
But you also love how Tommy deals with everybody not
49:29
listening to him because he never, he never throws his hands
49:33
down and go. You need to just shut up and
49:35
listen to me. I hate.
49:35
Does that in some ways? But usually most of the time,
49:38
when people don't listen to him, he's already got them blocked
49:41
off in a different path but they don't realize it's common yet a
49:44
great example from season one is he tells Freddy you can come
49:48
back. And and you can marry Ada.
49:52
But you got to leave right? And Freddy goes yeah and Freddy
49:55
goes like Oh no, I'm coming back and and I'm going to marry 8A,
50:00
but I'm going to stay and it's time.
50:03
He's like, okay, that's really not how this is going to fly and
50:06
the only way it's gonna be okay. In any respect is if you do
50:09
something for me, and that's how Tommy's led to believe or like
50:13
how he leads Freddy into doing all the things he does because
50:16
he just goes, all right, I mean, I'm gonna block you up.
50:20
It like you have to realize that okay, you don't want to listen
50:22
to my instructions or you don't want to listen to what I'm
50:24
telling you to do in terms of the the in, you know, ideas I
50:28
want you to do but I'm you're gonna follow my instructions now
50:32
because now I've got something to hang over your head whether
50:35
you like it or not. But he's also, but in the same
50:37
way in comparison, he's not as upfront about it when it comes
50:41
to it. Like the way that Walter White
50:42
would be where he gets in, you know, Jesse's face and says yeah
50:47
no you're going to listen to me or you know Tony getting in.
50:50
A Chrissy, you know, shaking a cigar and have gone know.
50:52
You got to look like Tommy or Tony has a great line in The
50:55
Sopranos races. You don't have to love me, but
50:57
you will respect me. Yes.
50:58
And it's like Tommy, you could never even picture him saying
51:01
that because he's like, I don't care if you love me or respect
51:04
me, you'll do it either way, there's that same Pride.
51:06
He's got the gun drawn on them and Tommy's like, unless you're
51:08
going to use, literally in the most annoyed voiceover.
51:12
He's like, unless you're going to use that, put it away.
51:16
Yeah. Because he's like because in
51:18
that's I don't remember if he says this in the First season,
51:20
but he says that because of what happened to them in the war,
51:24
everything after that, everything after the war is
51:26
extra. So which is why Tommy acts the
51:30
way he acts he goes. I'm already dead.
51:33
I might as well just make life sucks for everyone else.
51:37
All right, and I've already in hell, you may as well be with
51:40
me. Yeah.
51:41
And in doing so he builds this family from in a small little I
51:46
love that set designed to of their of their betting shop is.
51:49
It's just Like two houses put together with the water broken
51:53
down, like it's just, it's so like interesting and that sense
51:57
of like, that's just what it is. And it's not hiding from
52:00
anybody. Like the cops know where they're
52:02
betting shop is. Yeah.
52:04
Like it's just hilarious to see them do that and not really care
52:08
of what you got a long hair on your chin.
52:10
Do I talk to everybody? Like he made like a, he made
52:20
Like a face at me and I was like, I don't know what he's
52:21
talking about and I did that like I tried to get it and I
52:24
still yeah like and it sucks because I know we're only
52:28
talking about season 1, but you're going to love everything
52:30
that happens to these characters as time goes on.
52:32
Especially Arthur. Arthur is like a that secret?
52:36
You just love him like sad character so far though.
52:39
That's the problem. That's the problem.
52:41
That's just what's happening right now.
52:42
He's a very sad character where I could talk about.
52:45
I've said, a few things, I had one season two, but we're not
52:47
doing any more of these two, but it Arthur is is one of those
52:50
characters again that I can relate with.
52:55
I can wait a little bit with Tommy Shelby as well, but not as
52:58
much as I can Arthur. Oh yeah.
53:00
And I could see definitely how you can relate to Arthur and a
53:02
lot of different ways in Arthur's, you know, Arthur's
53:05
this you can be this like this mad insane, like dog for Tommy
53:10
when Tommy needs him, to be. Yeah.
53:12
And Tommy even says that to him in a way and it's, but he's also
53:17
like when he's shown this love and affection and care.
53:22
He really comes out. He's right now.
53:24
No, I'm a good person and he knows, you know, it's incredible
53:28
to see him act that way. There's a great there's a great
53:30
thing and season for you're going to love the he does
53:32
because it's fucking funny but like he's awesome and John sadly
53:37
gets beliefs of the screen timeout of out of the three
53:40
brothers, the three main Brothers.
53:42
Yeah but he's also just he's hilarious, this is funny he's
53:49
yeah, he's pretty funny and he's got some great.
53:53
Interesting takes and he is, I would say in terms of like a
53:56
level of like if you had to compare the, the intelligence I
53:59
would most likely put Tommy, John Arthur.
54:01
Yeah. And but Arthur still is Got good
54:06
ideas, which is the best thing is that none of these characters
54:08
really feel like a weak Link in some ways.
54:11
No, they're all like a family, they're all very strongly bonded
54:14
together and most of the time, if anything Tommy is usually
54:18
seen as the outcast because he just thinks differently.
54:21
We also do because he also just does what he needs to do.
54:24
He doesn't really wait and ask for permission from anybody.
54:27
There is nobody who gives him permission?
54:29
Tommy does, what Tommy does? And that's well in power is I
54:32
love, Tommy, Paul, and won't Polly will try But still, well,
54:36
in the funny thing is too is that the reason Tommy not only
54:39
does what he does because he knows it's going to work is that
54:41
he knows that if he does what he does, nobody can do something
54:43
different and change. What happens.
54:45
Exactly. So it's almost like a deterrent
54:47
in the sense of I'm gonna do what I need to do and it'll
54:49
work. And now, you can't change
54:51
course, because I've already made this decision.
54:54
I've already chosen fry, but it's already, it's already done
54:57
and there's nothing you can do which is what he does.
54:59
A lot season 1 when it comes to Freddy and Ada is yeah.
55:02
He's like, yeah, no, I'm gonna get him arrested.
55:05
Or I'm going to kill him, you know, like, I'm going to do this
55:08
and you're going to listen, unlike that's that's what I love
55:11
too, is. Yeah, like he says to Freddy,
55:12
he's just like, dude, if you're gonna shoot me, shoot me
55:14
otherwise, get rid of it, like, put it away, that's a.
55:17
Yeah, and that's, you know, it's such a great show and I'm so
55:22
excited that you're already halfway through season two.
55:24
And it's the, I did finish season 3.
55:26
And honestly, I always thought season 3 was kind of this
55:29
weaker, like of all the all the seasons, but honestly re
55:31
watching it again, it just hits. So, Well like there's just
55:37
there's some really great dialogue.
55:38
I mean you've not to spoil anything but we do get a great
55:43
major cast member in Tom Hardy and I've already met time
55:47
already. Alfie Solomon's is Solomon's.
55:50
My boy. He is bouncing next episode.
55:55
God. He is so funny.
55:57
I love him. He's got that.
55:58
Great that great accent. And just this like
56:02
devil-may-care attitude like yeah.
56:05
He just doesn't give a damn, and I love especially in season 2.
56:08
He does some great moves, like, with Tommy where he's just like,
56:11
you know, what, man. He sees Tommy kind of as an
56:15
equal like absolutely does the the cabinet discussion.
56:19
Oh, dude, we rock that. What?
56:22
This is a series, by the way everybody.
56:24
This is this. Yeah.
56:26
Are we good? Are we good on this episode?
56:28
I'm good on this episode, I because if we keep going, I'm
56:30
going to talk about the cab. All right, let's right.
56:32
Let's write season one. You want me to go first out of
56:37
10? Piggy Blinder, season one from
56:43
me, gets a 10 out of 10. 100% across-the-board.
56:46
The apps dude. No, episode had a law.
56:49
It Was Written perfectly, the characters, shine in every
56:53
scene, no matter how big a role they have.
56:56
Yeah, these areas shine, these characters, right themselves,
57:01
the villains are villains until they're not then they are.
57:04
It's this. Yes, so much happening here,
57:08
that but it's digestible. It's digestible.
57:11
It's for everybody. Yes, it's violent.
57:13
Yes, there's Gore, but it's not over-the-top.
57:15
So this is, this is realistic shit.
57:17
There's some sex, there's drug users alcohol, they're smoking
57:20
but it's not gratuitous it's all a part of the bigger plot in the
57:26
such an intelligent show. It doesn't waste your time.
57:28
It does not treat you like a fucking idiot.
57:30
This is what does show so far season 110 out.
57:35
Okay, yeah, I mean to go right. Along with Nick there, I give it
57:38
a 10 out of 10 as well. I've re-watched That season
57:41
alone, probably three or four times now, and every time I
57:45
just, I fall in love with it a bit more and more because I just
57:48
love the set design. I love something that we didn't
57:52
mention really at all. I feel is the cinematography
57:55
like. Yeah, it's gorgeous.
57:56
It is so gorgeous, and it's so well shot.
58:00
And it's honestly in a lot of ways I've seen so much.
58:04
American TV. I've seen, like, I've mentioned,
58:07
I've seen The Walking Dead. I've seen Mad Men.
58:09
I've seen, you know, the wire and The Sopranos and Breaking
58:12
Bad and so many other shows and it's it was my first UK series
58:16
that I watched and I was like, this is what they're doing over
58:19
there. Like, I stood, there's arguably
58:22
there's arguably more nudity more sex, more like more
58:25
everything on u.k. television, which is completely shocking to
58:28
me because you'd expect this to be in some sort of show that
58:31
would be on HBO or something, and it's on BBC One.
58:34
I don't know what that equivalent is over there.
58:36
I'd have to look it up and see if I have to I'll talk.
58:38
But yeah. But like you have that and it's
58:42
but at the same time it's like you said, it's digestible six
58:45
episodes. You're not like chasing your
58:47
tail trying to remember what happened three episodes ago,
58:49
which is another beautiful thing is that it doesn't treat you
58:52
like an idiot but you feel rewarded.
58:54
When you see things from an episode or two ago that come to
58:57
fruition now, and you're like, oh, I remember what they said
59:00
here, remember this little thing and they never do a flashback of
59:03
like, don't you remember when Tommy flicked, his nose this way
59:06
and now they know, when did they now they know where to put the
59:08
grenade. It's like, they never do that,
59:10
but it's all told through the dialogue, which feels real, you
59:14
know, something happens. And then when Tommy's in a
59:17
standoff, he goes. Well, when I did this it's like
59:20
because you would expect him to say that.
59:22
Yeah. And that's how he scares that
59:23
person into agreeing with. So, for me, it also gets a 10
59:26
out of 10. I can't wait to review season
59:28
two with you. It's just, it gets Wilder.
59:30
And Wilder from here it's almost like season one or Two are like
59:35
this. It's your salad.
59:37
Yeah, and then, three four, even five is your entree, and six is
59:42
your dessert and it just and and then the movies, like your your
59:46
coffee, before after everything, or your cigar or whatever, like
59:50
I'm excited to see the movie. I haven't I'm incredibly excited
59:53
to do this Beyond series and really show what wasd is.
59:59
It's not just a video game podcast.
1:00:01
It's primarily a video game podcast.
1:00:02
We're gonna do a lot this year. We are picky, but I gotta Beyond
1:00:06
chainsaw, man, from myself. In the build Bros, the last got
1:00:10
Quentin Tarantino movies. Finally in the pipeline with
1:00:14
copeley of the build grows more horror movies in this beyond
1:00:19
music. We got like Evan said, the last
1:00:21
of us is coming up. There's so much plus all the
1:00:23
video games. Shit God of War, Callisto
1:00:26
protocol. Hi, Uncle Otto.
1:00:28
I am going to do a tartare, another tarkov episode, we have
1:00:31
to. Now we're going to do, I would
1:00:33
like to revisit the half-life series Series.
1:00:35
We got that space and a couple weeks is where you make.
1:00:37
That's basically make for remake.
1:00:39
We have Marvel, Spiderman 2, Star field in November our
1:00:43
field. Oh my God, we have, we're
1:00:45
probably gonna be doing a handful of Star Citizen episodes
1:00:47
this year. There's a lot coming in there
1:00:48
after far. Yeah.
1:00:51
Well it's a lot of gaming stuff coming up a lot of the beginning
1:00:53
of this year so far it looks like going to be a lot of TV
1:00:56
related talk which I'm happy to do.
1:00:58
Three is coming up. III is coming up.
1:01:01
I mean, honestly, it's going to be a blast for me personally,
1:01:04
just To do a lot of the TV related stuff.
1:01:06
I love that. Nick is finally watching Kiki
1:01:08
and I know that you enjoy it and it's it's just so exciting to
1:01:12
see. It's always exciting to see your
1:01:13
friends do. So, like, watch something that
1:01:15
you recommended. Yeah.
1:01:17
And not only that, but we also get to experience something new
1:01:19
together and with the rest of the Discord, which you should
1:01:21
join, by the way, for the last of us like, oh, yeah, and if you
1:01:26
want to watch peaky and you're on at the same time, like you're
1:01:30
you know, ahead of us, you've finished the show or you're in
1:01:32
the same timeline as neck in terms of Where he's at, by all
1:01:35
means join and watch it with us. It's going to, it's a blast, you
1:01:38
know, we love doing it. We've been quoting the show to
1:01:40
each other and talking, so those awesome accents and then, you
1:01:44
know, yeah, we have the last of us.
1:01:45
So, you know, I'm excited because I know there are several
1:01:47
people in the Discord. We haven't played the games that
1:01:50
are going to watch the series, I think, and it's watching it and
1:01:53
it's going to be. So if it is good, the way that
1:01:56
people are saying it is, it's going to be so exciting for me
1:01:58
and I hope, I hope, I hope that some of these guys better, some
1:02:02
of these people in this is for that are that I can.
1:02:04
My friends say all right, the show is pretty good.
1:02:07
I'm playing, let me pick up. I'm going to pick up part 1.
1:02:09
I'm PC and I'm going to play it and see what it is, you know?
1:02:11
Like that's that's what it's all about, right?
1:02:13
Is to get people into this universe and I think if this
1:02:16
show is as good as we were saying, gonna do it apparently.
1:02:19
So it's apparently going to do really well.
1:02:22
So that's all I got to say peaky.
1:02:24
Blinders season one, gets a 10 out of 10 from wasd.
1:02:27
Absolutely. So far, so good.
1:02:29
And this has been an awesome start to 2023.
1:02:31
I would say stop. Talked to continue on this
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Camp itself goes. There's a lot of cool stuff that
1:02:44
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episodes until next Friday, take it easy.
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Be safe. I said Friday, I meant Wednesday
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and Friday because we're doing last of us and Friday, episode.
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I think, right? Are we doing last year?
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Okay. Awesome.
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Got up to the next Sunday to see you guys on Wednesday, until
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then, be safe. Take it easy.
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Happy 2023. You fucking cowards.
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Happy 2023. You mates.
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