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The International Prophecy Landscape | ft. Lamb & Lion Ministries · The Week in Bible Prophecy

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  Speaker 1: Church that loves Bible prophecy, so we fit right in.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, chishum Creek Baptist Church, Boy, did they love Bible prophecy.
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  Speaker 2: They ate it up that questions were big. They bought
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  Speaker 2: every book we had. They really wanted to learn more.
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  Speaker 2: So I love churches that are so excited about a
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  Speaker 2: church about.
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  Speaker 1: A couple hundred people, good size.
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  Speaker 3: So let's let's kind of jump in a little bit
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  Speaker 3: and kind of some of the topics that you guys
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  Speaker 3: were discussing. I think the church. You know, you're in
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  Speaker 3: the church environment, which is it was just good and
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  Speaker 3: so kind of what did you discuss.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, a lot of times churches are not
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  Speaker 1: as exposed to Bible prophecy. Fortunately they had a pastor
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  Speaker 1: who had been diving deep into Bible prophecy. But we
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  Speaker 1: still started off with kind of an introductory session on
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  Speaker 1: the significance of Bible prophecy, why should we study it?
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  Speaker 1: And then we jumped into signs of the Times. And
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  Speaker 1: I think many Christians who have had very little exposure
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  Speaker 1: to God's prophetic word don't understand fully why it is
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  Speaker 1: significant to their walk with Christ and even to their
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  Speaker 1: understanding of everything that's happening in the world.
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  Speaker 3: So in that I think that speaks about I know, pastorally.
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  Speaker 3: From my perspective is I didn't preach on prophecy every Sunday,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and I would preach through the scripture, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you name it, and then when it would appear, you
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  Speaker 3: would talk about it. But then on Sundays, like maybe
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  Speaker 3: like a Sunday school or Wednesday night, I would I'd
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  Speaker 3: venture in and to remind people. But that was even
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  Speaker 3: a few years ago. I mean, what do you see,
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  Speaker 3: How are things different from even three years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's funny. Growing up, I always went
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  Speaker 2: to churches that taught Bible prophecy. It just it's not
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  Speaker 2: that they went out of their way to teach it.
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  Speaker 2: They just it was just integrated if the verse came
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  Speaker 2: up and then you taught it. I always love Revelation
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  Speaker 2: one three. Blessed as he who reads and those hear
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  Speaker 2: the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which
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  Speaker 2: are written in for the time is near. So here's
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  Speaker 2: a blessing about studying the thirty one percent of the
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  Speaker 2: Bible that's prophecy. But I do agree because you know,
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  Speaker 2: growing up in the eighties and nineties, there wasn't a
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  Speaker 2: bigger emphasis on prophecy, which is as doctor Reagan, our
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  Speaker 2: founder calls it Christendome. And as time goes by, people
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  Speaker 2: are losing the interest and even though more of the
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  Speaker 2: signs of the times are being fulfilled now. So to
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  Speaker 2: answer your question, I see the change being more of
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  Speaker 2: away from loving Bible prophecy, but it's actually a fulfillment
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  Speaker 2: of Bible prophecy. Right. The Church of Laodicea is supposed
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  Speaker 2: to be apathetic, and.
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  Speaker 1: I think the masses maybe moving away, but there are
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  Speaker 1: individuals i'll call it the remnant part of the church
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  Speaker 1: that is more excited, and I think they have seen
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  Speaker 1: things just in the last few years with government mandates
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  Speaker 1: obviously during the pandemic, and with all sorts of signs multiplying.
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  Speaker 1: So that gets to our concept of the six categories
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  Speaker 1: of signs we talk about, and they're more obvious to
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  Speaker 1: even the spiritually undiscerning. It's hard to argue that our
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  Speaker 1: society is going through a major moral breakdown, and so
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  Speaker 1: people are recognizing, you know, something's afoot and perhaps the
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  Speaker 1: Bible has something to say about that. And so within
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  Speaker 1: those people who are spiritually discerning and not to denegrde others,
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  Speaker 1: but there's a clear understanding that God's word probably has
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  Speaker 1: something to say about this current moment.
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  Speaker 2: And with the church asleep. It's interesting as I talked
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  Speaker 2: to our missional marketing group who manages our Google adword campaign,
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  Speaker 2: and they mostly have churches. I think we're probably the
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  Speaker 2: only Bible prophecy of ministry I have, But they say,
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  Speaker 2: you guys get more interest and people stay on your
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  Speaker 2: pages more than any church site that we manage the
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  Speaker 2: world out there, even if they don't know the Lord,
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  Speaker 2: are hungry for trying to understand what's going on, and
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  Speaker 2: they're coming to the Bible to try to understand it.
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  Speaker 2: So it's become a great outreach. You know. Prophecy is
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  Speaker 2: really for the edification of the church, but we're seeing
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people who are unchurched or barely churched
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  Speaker 2: seeing what's going around, and more alert about that than
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  Speaker 2: the churches.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. What I see too is the media would have
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  Speaker 3: us believe that, you know, there's a politicalization of everything,
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  Speaker 3: but there's still this undercurrent of God drawing people always, always,
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  Speaker 3: and so there's confusion. People want to have order, they
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  Speaker 3: want to underst they want to know if the world
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  Speaker 3: is ending. I mean, who wouldn't generally wouldn't want to
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  Speaker 3: know that, but for them to come and they're going
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  Speaker 3: to turn to not necessarily the church, but they'll turn
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  Speaker 3: to people, and they'll turn to the internet, because the
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  Speaker 3: internet's one of those things you can do quietly. You
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  Speaker 3: don't need to expose yourself of being a religious wacko,
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  Speaker 3: and you can just look, well, what's going on here?
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  Speaker 3: So you mentioned something Tim about the six categories. Let's
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  Speaker 3: for those that might not know what six categories are
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  Speaker 3: we talking.
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  Speaker 1: About, Well, it's six categories that doctor David Reagan delineated
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  Speaker 1: several years ago to try to put to order. All
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  Speaker 1: the things that are happening around us are the signs
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  Speaker 1: of nature, and that would be storms, increase in famines, earthquakes,
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  Speaker 1: you name it. And that is demonstrably true. When I
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  Speaker 1: served in the legislature, I tell people we get a
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  Speaker 1: magazine every month, and one month that came out with
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  Speaker 1: a cover article about how storms are increasing in frequency
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  Speaker 1: and intensity. Now, some would chalk that up to global
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  Speaker 1: warming or co sign of change, but we know it's
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  Speaker 1: a fulfillment Bible prophets. And the editors had no idea.
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  Speaker 1: They were actually proclaiming the fulfillment of God's work. We
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  Speaker 1: talk about the signs of society, and boy have those
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  Speaker 1: multiplied just in the last generation. Who would have dreamed
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  Speaker 1: in twenty or twenty years ago where we would be
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  Speaker 1: today as a society. And so even the spiritually undiscerning
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  Speaker 1: recognize something is changing dramatically before our eyes. And the
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  Speaker 1: Bible speaks to that and said the world will come
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  Speaker 1: more violent and be just like the days of Noah.
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  Speaker 1: And then you get spiritual signs, and these are both
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  Speaker 1: negative and positive. An outbreak of apostasy and heresy, persecution
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  Speaker 1: even in places like America and Canada, in places that
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  Speaker 1: ought to be steeped in Christianity, and the Church is
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  Speaker 1: being persecuted like never before.
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  Speaker 2: But a big push towards evangelism.
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  Speaker 1: The positive side, exactly, very positive side. So now we
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  Speaker 1: have the ability to reach the entire world through the
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  Speaker 1: Internet and other tools with the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
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  Speaker 1: So very quickly were our negative and positive signs. We
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  Speaker 1: have the signs of world politics, So the reemergence of
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  Speaker 1: the very nations that the Bible talks about coming together
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  Speaker 1: in the end times against Israel and leading toward this
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  Speaker 1: one world government. So all those things are happening before
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  Speaker 1: our very eyes. You know, it was less than twenty
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  Speaker 1: years ago that the President of the United States scoffed
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  Speaker 1: at the threat from Russia being a power in the
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  Speaker 1: world again, and yet once more we see Russia emerging.
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  Speaker 1: So world politics are coming into alignment, just as Bible
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  Speaker 1: prophecy declared. We call it the next category, signs of technology.
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  Speaker 1: And you think technology in the Bible, but modern technology
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  Speaker 1: allows the fulfillment of so many prophecies that people in
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  Speaker 1: years gone by could not even fathom. Well, how will
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  Speaker 1: the whole world look upon two witnesses lying in the
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  Speaker 1: streets of Jerusalem? How will one man with this one
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  Speaker 1: world government control the buying and selling? Now we know
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  Speaker 1: that technology allows many of the prophecies in scripture to
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  Speaker 1: be fulfilled. And the final sign, the sixth category, is
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  Speaker 1: the signs of Israel as God's prophet. Time clock. Israel
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  Speaker 1: coming back on the world scene, re possessing Jerusalem as
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  Speaker 1: its ancient capital, and the whole world's focus being on
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  Speaker 1: Israel is an absolute fulfillment of Bible prophecy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, anything you want, anything mad to that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, the signs of the times are swrolling around us
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  Speaker 2: a bit. Jesus also compared him to the birth pains. He said,
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  Speaker 2: as the closer we got to his return, they would
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  Speaker 2: increase like a woman in childbirth, and frequency and intensity.
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  Speaker 2: So the signs would come closer and closer together. So
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  Speaker 2: natural weather disasters, for instance, will become more frequent. They'll
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  Speaker 2: come more often, but they'll also be greater and intensity, more disaster.
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  Speaker 2: You all are located in Oklahoma, and we just heard
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  Speaker 2: what a week or two ago, you survived yet another
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  Speaker 2: tornado blast. Praise the Lord to but our good friend
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  Speaker 2: Jeff Kinley and over in Arkansas, the neighborhood next to
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  Speaker 2: him was just wipe clean off the map by a tornado.
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  Speaker 2: And we're just getting these weather disasters. And so, like
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  Speaker 2: Tim said, how's the world trying to perceive it? Well,
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  Speaker 2: they don't have the biblical worldview to look through, so
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  Speaker 2: they're looking through an environmental worldview. And the global alarmists
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  Speaker 2: or about the climate changer are onto something, but they
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  Speaker 2: don't understand that it's really God trying to shake the
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  Speaker 2: world up for the purpose of saying, return to me.
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  Speaker 2: I want that right relationship, repent and return to me.
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  Speaker 2: That's what it's all about. To get the world excited.
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  Speaker 2: And we have ministries like ours that are meant to
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  Speaker 2: go out there and tell people this, show them so
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  Speaker 2: we could point them to Jesus and they could get sad.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Mondo, you like to gaze at the stars,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm fascinated by astronomy as well. And so all
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  Speaker 1: of the people who are fascinated by the heavens, whether
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  Speaker 1: they're Christians or secular, see the same stars, and yet
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  Speaker 1: they interpret them differently in terms of how they got
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  Speaker 1: to be there. And we understand that a creator God
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  Speaker 1: flung the heavens into existence through his mere word and
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  Speaker 1: it is a testimony to his glory and his power,
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  Speaker 1: and seculars to dismiss God, they don't accept that. So
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  Speaker 1: people can see many of these same signs, but they
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  Speaker 1: will be interpreted differently by someone who understands that God
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  Speaker 1: foretold all these things to come through.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we can re even revelation and the sealed judgments.
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  Speaker 2: When it sounds like something nuclear in nature happens, and
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  Speaker 2: all the great people and they hide in the mountains
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  Speaker 2: and they say, save us from the wrath of the lamb.
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  Speaker 2: They know it's God at that point, probably because of
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  Speaker 2: the result of the God Maygog war, which is supposed
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  Speaker 2: to bring the world into knowing there's a God. So
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  Speaker 2: everybody going into the tribulation time payer that this all
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  Speaker 2: leads up to will know God and make a decision
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  Speaker 2: for him or not. I mean, isn't that what a
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  Speaker 2: lot of times God uses persecution for, or pressure, or
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  Speaker 2: natural disasters or social disasters. It's to wake us up
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  Speaker 2: to the spiritual world, which a lot of times we're
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  Speaker 2: apathetic about because we're so kind of stuck in the
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  Speaker 2: day to day routine.
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  Speaker 3: There's a verse that comes to mind in Job Job
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  Speaker 3: thirty six to fifteen where he says affliction causes our
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  Speaker 3: ears to be opened. You're like, you know, that's well said,
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  Speaker 3: and because it's true.
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  Speaker 1: The other verse that I would harken to anytime we
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  Speaker 1: talk about prophecy, because prophecy can become an esoteric topics that, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the fanatics are chasing after prophecy and signs and all
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  Speaker 1: these things. But really, just like our ministries title Lamb
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  Speaker 1: and Lion ministries, how do we come up with that?
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  Speaker 1: As we were discussing a moment ago, it's because it
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  Speaker 1: points to Jesus Christ. He came as the sacrificial lamb,
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  Speaker 1: he is coming back as the roaring lion of Judah.
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  Speaker 1: And so if you go to Revelation chapter nineteen, verse ten,
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  Speaker 1: it says that we should worship God for the witness
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  Speaker 1: of Jesus. The testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
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  Speaker 1: So everything we talk about in terms of Bible prophecy
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  Speaker 1: is not just chasing after the signs as an endom
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  Speaker 1: to themselves, but because they point to the soon return
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  Speaker 1: of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ.
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  Speaker 2: And that's a major point because if you're a Bible
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  Speaker 2: prophecy ministry and you're hung up on tiny little details
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  Speaker 2: or sensationalist stuff or getting into some deep doctrine or
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  Speaker 2: Hebrew roots or whatever, you're missing the point. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: our call is what does a prophet do? Now we
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  Speaker 2: don't believe in the foretelling it that's been completed by
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  Speaker 2: the closing of the Cannon, but the fourth telling, warning
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  Speaker 2: the people to repent and return to the Lord, that
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  Speaker 2: is the major mission of or should be a Bible
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  Speaker 2: prophecy ministries. We cover the topics underneath that umbrella, but
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  Speaker 2: it's all that little point in the top of the
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  Speaker 2: umbrella points to Jesus Christ, and that's our real truth fulness.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if I was to summarize it, even
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  Speaker 3: pastoral and what you know, somebody would say, why are
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  Speaker 3: we talking about this which you have people do, Why
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  Speaker 3: are we spending time on You're like, Well, two reasons.
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  Speaker 3: One is that it shows it's evangelistic in nature, not
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  Speaker 3: only to give them a frame of reference of understanding
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  Speaker 3: the world and the problems that we see. Secondly, it
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  Speaker 3: shows the evangelistically that the Bible's true. The Bible's only
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  Speaker 3: book in the world that has prophetic material in it
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  Speaker 3: that's hundred percent true. But then so you have that angle.
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  Speaker 3: But then personally it reminds us to always be ready, yes,
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  Speaker 3: to be pure right, if you have this hope, then
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  Speaker 3: you'll purify yourself. So this idea of Jesus saying what
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  Speaker 3: I tell you, tell everybody watch so why because we
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  Speaker 3: when he comes, we want to be found ready. And
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  Speaker 3: I would say, hey, look, as a pastor, my job
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  Speaker 3: is so that it goes well with you when you
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  Speaker 3: stand before the judgment seat of Christ. And I want
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  Speaker 3: to see you your rewards go well and for you
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  Speaker 3: to be caught, not caught off guard.
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  Speaker 1: The lords go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Oh, I'm just going to add to the
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  Speaker 2: Lord said that we're to watch again and again. We're
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  Speaker 2: supposed to watch, and he says we're supposed to work,
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  Speaker 2: and we says we're supposed to live holy lives. So
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  Speaker 2: you've got the watching, the evangelism, and the holiness. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what pastor wouldn't want that.
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  Speaker 1: Happens three and we are called to be watchmen. But
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  Speaker 1: if we understand the signs of the times and the
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  Speaker 1: imminence of Jesus return, and we don't warn people, we
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  Speaker 1: don't warn them too, as I spoke of this weekend,
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  Speaker 1: warn them to flee from the wrath to come. Then
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  Speaker 1: really their blood is on our heads. So we have
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  Speaker 1: a responsibility to share the good news that Jesus saves,
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  Speaker 1: but to warn those who are lost to flee from
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  Speaker 1: God's wrath into the loving arms of our safe.
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  Speaker 2: Tim has a whole sermon on It usually ends our
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  Speaker 2: what we do conferences giving that message because it focuses
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  Speaker 2: people on what's important.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, tell the Baptist. Yeah that's good. Well, you know
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  Speaker 3: one of the other topics, which I think kind of
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  Speaker 3: comes along here, which has been I've seen kind of
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  Speaker 3: a shift recently in the past couple of years, and
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  Speaker 3: we've done a lot on it. Here in the magazine,
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  Speaker 3: Gary wrote an article on the who. His article is
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  Speaker 3: on the ten Kings, and he's saying, hey, you know,
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  Speaker 3: people are looking for the Antichrist. Who he is? You know,
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  Speaker 3: he said, but we know that the ten Kings are
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  Speaker 3: there prior to him, so we should be looking for
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  Speaker 3: the ten Kings, okay in that sense. And so then
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  Speaker 3: I wrote a follow up article. And I know that
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  Speaker 3: it causes it challenges tradition, you know. And let's not
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  Speaker 3: make a mistake. I know that here even in the
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  Speaker 3: prophecy world, the dispensational world, I mean we're dispensational. We
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  Speaker 3: make a distinction between the Church and Israel. But people
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  Speaker 3: you start messing with some of these sacred cows, and
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  Speaker 3: people get irritated.
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  Speaker 2: And well, how do you see the ten Kings? Because
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  Speaker 2: some interpret it that that the revived Roman Empire? Do you.
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  Speaker 3: What is the world? Give us the typical and then
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  Speaker 3: and then I'll tell you my thoughts. But what is
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  Speaker 3: the typical traditional interpretation?
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  Speaker 2: I think the traditional view was that Europe would divide
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  Speaker 2: into ten regions. They saw the European Union rise. It's
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  Speaker 2: got what twenty I think twenty seven just joined. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so now it's correct.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it comes against is a comparison.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, so that's a good point. So the idea is, okay,
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  Speaker 2: well those will divide into ten and then the Antichrist
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  Speaker 2: will be the little horn who will rise up subdue
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  Speaker 2: three and take over. But when you read in the
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  Speaker 2: end of Book of Revelation where the antichrist empire is
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  Speaker 2: falling apart and he goes against the king of the
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  Speaker 2: South to put down a rebellion, but the kings of
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  Speaker 2: the East are coming.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, all of a.
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  Speaker 2: Sudden, it seems like, well, why would you divide Europe
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  Speaker 2: into ten regions? You can go to the UN and
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  Speaker 2: see even back in the fifties they had the world
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  Speaker 2: mapped into ten regions. Y and so I think the
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  Speaker 2: traditional view to answer your question is it's a European
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  Speaker 2: Union division of ten. But I think biblically, and it's
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  Speaker 2: more getting more popular now, is that the world is divided.
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  Speaker 3: Into ten reason And I remember watching back in the
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  Speaker 3: nineties Jack Venimpi and so back then it was you know,
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  Speaker 3: there were ten nations in the European Union, and then
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  Speaker 3: it went and then so then it was like, okay, everybody,
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  Speaker 3: here's ten and then minus three because he's got to
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  Speaker 3: take down three and there's seven left and here we are. Well,
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  Speaker 3: then it went to thirteen, and so he's like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: I got to change my view on this. So he's like, oh, well,
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  Speaker 3: now we know. See there's thirteen and they take away
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  Speaker 3: three and now we're going to be back in ten.
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  Speaker 3: So and he's trying his best, you know, to understand
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  Speaker 3: it from the European But then it went to eighteen
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  Speaker 3: twenty and he's like, okay, I got.
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  Speaker 1: A eurocentric Yes it is and a lot. Nathan made
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  Speaker 1: the point over the weekend people always ask, well, where's
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  Speaker 1: American Bible prophecy? And he said, and he's right. When
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  Speaker 1: we go to speak elsewhere, nobody says, well, where's Canada
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  Speaker 1: and Bible prophecy? Where's Mexico and Bible prophecy? They don't
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  Speaker 1: ask that question. We are so self absorbed we are
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: in the West that we think everything revolves around us.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: And the truth is the Lord's throne is not draped
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: in an American flag, and he is looking at the globe,
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: and so there are whole other sectors of the world
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: population that I think will play into the end times.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: And so this ten king coalition doesn't just have to
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: come from Europe. I think that is a traditional view
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: because that was where power was consolidated for so long.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: But right now the world power is shifting. It's shifting east,
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: and so not just to China. China is actually this
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: month going to fall from prominence as the most populous
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: nation in the world. You all know that it's going
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: to be India, and so India is rising, and there
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: are other parts of the world that will continue to
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: have great prominence even into the end times, probably as
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: the United States decreases in prominence. So I agree with Nathan,
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure that it will be this European coalition,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: even though that's where the Antichrist will go.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: Cause we do know that there's a worldwide you know relationshipt.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: It is worldwide, all nations times. We know that. So
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: my thinking when when I wrote my article.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Is yeah, because you're going to take it in a
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: different direction.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I read art like, Okay, you we have the
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: europe model, you have the un model, the ten regions
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: and I thought, well, okay, it could be. I'm not
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: saying that that's absolutely wrong. But when you look at
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: Revelations seventeen twelve and it talks about that these are people,
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: these are kings, it says he was working we just
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: mentioned this earlier, yeah, which means rulers vasileas. It can
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: mean an actual guy that's in an official position, or
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: it can mean somebody that has just the way that
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: the lexicon reads is transcendent power, transcendent influence. And so
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: as I was thinking through, and I'm like, okay, if
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: we look around, like here's the test question, which I
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: think helps substantiate to people's thinking. Right now, we look, okay,
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: who's who's the number one superpower in the world? US
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: Probably right, we're waiting, but we're still.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: We're still there, bigger than the next ten after.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so we say, maybe you know, we're number one, China,
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: Russia is still maybe Europe as a nation that let's
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: just do single. So right, now, here's my question. If
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: on the International Space Station there's a there's a leak,
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: there has been a leak, but let's say it was
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: a major leak all of a sudden boom, we need
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: to be rescued within a week. This is it. Oxygen
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: has gone. What would what would the what would NASA
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: do go?
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, they go to Elon.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, here you have think about.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: This, and all the other rockets have been blown up lately.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: Right, you have the world superpower would go to a
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: private individual and say can you help us? And he
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: would say, Now, maybe I don't know him. Maybe he'd
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: be magnanimous and be like, oh, of course, of course,
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: but he might say, hey, I need forty thousand. I
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: have plans for forty thousand of my rockets or my
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: satellites to go up from the FCC. You've only improved
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: twelve thousand. I'll be happy to help.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, make a deal.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: Let's make a deal. So when you think about that,
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: and that's what kind of struck me is you look
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: at what his technological advancers are doing. And now you
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: mentioned before we were talking in China. There's a whole
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: bunch of things going on in China. But these figures.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: What it says in relation seventeen is that the Antichrist
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: will go to these ten figures. I call them influencers
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: and technocrats, aligarks, so whatever you want to call and
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: he makes a deal with them, and so he gives
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: them a right to rule for that one hour period,
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: which not just sixty minutes. He comes in and he says, hey,
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: let's come together. I'll give you the right to rule
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: with me. But he's looking for something. So in my
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: fictional narrative, he goes to these ten guys and says, okay, elon,
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: I want your I want your fifty thousand satellites that
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: you have now, which who knows what it'll be, because
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: I need to surveil everything I want I want to use. Basically,
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: he says, I want your guys's technology, but I'll give
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: you the right to rule. Because you think about what
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: these guys have and what they don't have. So I
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: look at as a theory as a possibility that what
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: maybe has been missing is the opportunity for these ten
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: guys to be extremely wealthy, technologically advanced, to come and
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: powerful to offer him something the Antichrist, something he's going
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: to do, like.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: A mafia mindset that the head boss makes him an
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: offer they can't refuse. But in the process of giving
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: power to those ten, he is actually consolidating his own
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: rule and authority. Yes, and I can see that as well.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: A lot of times. Having been in politics, I can
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: tell you that the power brokers are not the elected officials.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: They are the front people for other powers and other
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: movements and dynamics that are behind the scenes. And some
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: of these guys that are behind the scenes, they don't
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: even want to be seen. And I'm not trying to
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: create a conspiracy mindset, but I'm just saying there are
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: a lot of moving pieces and sometimes who you see. Well,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: in our own nation, there are a lot of folks
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: that realize Joe Biden isn't really pulling all the strings
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: in the White House.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: How much influence does George Soros have behind the scenes.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: At my level when I was in politics, I never
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: would have heard of his name except money was beginning
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: to feed toward people like the district attorneys that run
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: and some of the attorney generals at the state level.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: And that is is swaying things dramatically in our nation,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: and obviously with certain races. Again not in mind, but
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: you can see his fingerprints on a lot of things.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: So Gidbridge couldn't even say his name on TV without
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: him shutting him off. I mean, he holds that much
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: power over the media.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: And it's because of money and the guys that have
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: that kind of money, whether it's the Zoros or Zuckerberg
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: or Bill Gates, not.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Just the American side, the Russian Chinese side.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: And that's why they're trying to take out a lot
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: of these Russian oligarchs, because they're actually power brokers in
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: competition with our power brokers. I mean, well, you said
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Zuckerberg actually had changed the last election with his using
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: his what half a billion dollars that he put into
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: canvassing neighborhoods and doing harvesting or.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Only changed the electionizes that that is a bully button,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: if you will, to be pushed. Because when we were
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: trying to push Putin out, quite frankly, they were appealing
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: to some of those oligarchs to take him out. That's
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: what our government was sending signals do because they realized
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: the power behind even despot in Russia is not Vladimir
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Putin himself. He is to a degree the figurehead, but
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: all these guys behind him have a lot.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: So let's let's let's let's think about that for a
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: second and kind of go a little further. We talk
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: about multinational corporations wealth, so In reality, governments themselves have
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: very They have the political clout only because of maybe
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: you know, a constitution or a polym or whatever. But
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: in reality, what who controls the narrative? We have technology,
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: we have media.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Right we look look at Tucker Cross again recently kicked
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: out recently, Yeah, and you know they're they're trying to
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: slam him. I mean, every article coming out by the
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: media is, oh, he had he was a terror to
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: work with, or he we had to redact his tweets
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: and all this crazy stuff. It's like, no, he was
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: exposing everything that was going on. And I love Freedom Tunes.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: You guys ever watched Freedom Tunes on YouTube? And he
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: has one reason. When Tucker gets fired and he's walking
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: down the street all kind of depressed, and he passes
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: this bank of TVs and it's every news channel out there,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: and they're saying the exact same thing across the scripted
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: across you. And I've always wondered who is at the
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: top of this pyramid, Who's making those decisions, because these
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: media companies are owned by other companies which are owned
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: by basually go up to AT and T and so
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: and all these mega companies, and we read about how
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: the destruction of Babylon and the end of Revelation just
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: before the Lord returns, it's destroyed one hour, and who
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: mourns the death of Babylon. The merchants and the power brokers,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: the people who own the companies as these giant companies
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: gobble up all the companies. And then always saw during
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: the pandemic, you could go to Amazon, you go to
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Walmart and a handful of others, but everybody else had
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: to close. I think you're onto something there, but I
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: think it might be a mix, because it seems like
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: every politician since maybe h George hw Bush or even
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Bill Clinton, we're openly saying that thinking and saying that
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: the presidency was only a step towards the next thing
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: that they wanted a bigger piece of the bye, and
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: that was you and representation or something.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: About to do with program on Dwight David Eisenhower is
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: one of the figures. But I think that he identified
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: what he called the military industrial complexactly, and now there
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: are other complexes, So there is a medical industrial complex.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: We spend more money in the United States on healthcare
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: than any other nation in the world, and our healthcare
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: is actually degrading relative to many other nations who spend
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: half as much. And so it's because we have a
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: medical industrial complex, mainly with drug companies, and they have
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: tremendous clout across the board with the politicians. And that's
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: just one sector. And so if you can imagine all
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: these other, as you said, technocrats and people with major,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: major money, that becomes a power in and of itself.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: And at some point the tipping point will arrive when
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: they will gain even more control.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Well, how much attimed the lobbyist control, because it seems
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: like the lobbyists, because you're saying that the politicians are
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: the front men representation of these characters. It did it
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: seem like every time you were you were in the
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Kentucky legislation, some lobbyists, was in China.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: There were lobbyists yes on certain issues and they had
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: tremendous cloud. And I think it's getting worse in a
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: lot of ways because whether you look at the embrace
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: of gambling across the nation or marijuana, it's because there's
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: a tremendous and effective lobby and some people just don't
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: have the grounding to say no. Politicians don't have I
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: think a core set of principles. Many of them they
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: just shift with the winds, and the guys, the handful
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: that do and it was a minority when I was
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: in the legislature, are very frustrating to those lobbyists and
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: oftentimes are run against by big money because they don't
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: want someone who stands. And that's what Christians have to do.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: We need to stand and not be swayed in the
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: winds of whatever is politically expedient at the moment, or
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: what the world is chasing.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: What question for you, Mandra then is do you think
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: the ten Kings will happen before or after the rapture?
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Is it a reorganization in the world before or after.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: We even I tend to think that we're going to
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: see most of it. I believe I'm not a real
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: big the rapture is going to be years and years
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: and years before the tribulation starts. To that gap idea,
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: I think it's more immediate.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Especially pulling the restrainer out, it'd be hard to keep.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: Awad agreed, Yeah, I don't see it. I know there's
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: a lot of questions. It brings up a lot of
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: other questions about, you know, how things fit in but
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: I still see, based on Luke seventeen others, that when
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: the rescue happens, it's it's almost immediate, Like Lot a
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Lot was taken out almost exactly before.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: I think there'll be a short period because I think
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: the world will descend into chaos, and it's out of
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: that chaos, just like I use the example of Nazi
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Germany in the thirty the German economy had collapsed, the
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: you know, the people were desperate, and one man emerged
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: to say I can put everything right. And this mad
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: man took over a nation that was among the most
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: advanced theothologically and technologically, and he drove them to obviously
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: commit World War two. So I see that being a
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: model for what will happen shortly after the rapture.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: So as we think about those ten figures, whether I
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: think about what they call fintech, you know, a financial
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: you know, the technology, the banking, the military, the all
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: that that comes to play is extremely influential and you
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: can't rule the world without it. And so to be
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: able to have access and to make an agreement to
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: get all of that stuff. I think about what we're
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: seeing with Elon Musk as an example, his ability for
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: he's got over four thousand satellites. Now again he's got
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: approven for twelve thousand, but already he's got over a
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: million subscribers to his internet. So you start looking at
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: that and all these thrborol countries where it's everywhere and
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: someone can go hey, and now they're figuring what some
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: of the new designs of the of the satellites are
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: two way, so you can have not just bringing stuff down,
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: but where you can actually serve veil and so here
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: we are so to be able to see some of
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: that come to play.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Or space based lasers, that's what.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're watching it.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we know the false prophet can do seeming miracles,
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: including calling fire down from the heavens. Well, he's a
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: false prophet, he's a charlatan. How's he bringing fire down
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: from heavens? Well, it could be missiles, and you know
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: they're explaining the flames out the back. But you know,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: there's been a lot of work in space based and
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: laser technology, and we're even seeing some countries develop satellite killers,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: satellites that go around killing other satellites.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: So if you have those people, you know, the power
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: brokers that are behind with the money that are able
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: to influence everything. Elections, right, you name it all the
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: way through. Hey, so let's make an agreement. Interesting, I'll
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: give you power, you give me your But we all.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Know it's going to be King Charles. Although you know,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: we were laughing because you know, everybody says, oh, it's
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: going to be Prince Charles or King Charles. But you know, boy,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: that'd be the most boring anti Christ on the.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: Plane to be Well, this brings up kind of another
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: topic which is kind of goes into a little bit
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: a little bit of the technology side of it. But
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: let's talk about the CBDCs.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Which are for some people, central bank digital, central bank
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: digital moving away from cash.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's talk about the cash society because we're
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: this is one of those topics that comes up where
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: I remember, I mean, I got saved in nineteen ninety three,
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: so it's been thirty years, and I remember I immediately
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: started reading prophecy and and you know the frame the
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: word back then it was cash less society. Cashless society. Well,
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: you know what is this learning? And uh so this
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: phrase has been around a long time. Why let's go
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: back to ninety three before even this before crypto okay, internet,
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: before Internet?
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly was there time before internet?
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: Why why would we believe there's a cashleist society.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: I think that the Casscris say, well, it's a means
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: to an end for the Antichrist, being able to control
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: the buying and selling, and so it's not just an
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: end to itself. It's a consolidation of power, and we're
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: moving in that direction beginning in the nineties and all
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: the way through today, and not just through mandates. We've
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: discussed how China can mandate, other nations can mandate. Eventually
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: our own fed may mandate. But my children don't use cash,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: your kids probably.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: I don't use cash.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: You don't use cash, you're a young man. So the
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: point being, more and more people are choosing to go
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: this way because it's convenient, but really it becomes a
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: tool for the Antichrist to have control and even for
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: governments interceding now in the Antichrist period, to have control
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: over their populace.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: And really it's tied to the market. To beast revelation
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: of thirteen sixteen, he who is the false prophet for
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: the Antichrist, causes all both small and great, rich and
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: four free enslaved receive a mark on the right hand
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: or on their foreheads that no one may able to
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: buy or sell except the one who has the mark,
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: or the name of the beast or the number of
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: his name. So the idea is that you can control
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: the populace by controlling their money. Well, if everybody's using cash,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: you know, you could have start these black markets, or
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: it'd be like hunger games. Everybody's trading and stuff like that.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: But you know, you walk into the store and you
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: don't have that tattoo or on the hand or the arm.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: That's one way, well, we're just not going to serve you.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: But to really shut somebody off, and we've been seeing that.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: I think one of the most frightening things that I've
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: seen recently is when Justin Trudeau shut down the truck
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: or protests by not only cutting them off financially, cutting
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: their insurance, cutting their employment, cutting their health everything. Yeah,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: he basically canceled them from existence and said you don't
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: exist anymore. And we saw that our countries do that
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: with try to do that with Russia and unfortunately backfired terribly.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: But so we already see the modus operandi for a
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: lot of nations doing this that will lead into the trips.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: So we see this. Okay, so going back to the nineties,
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: this these these crazy wack of Bible believers talking about
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: the yeah you troublers, cashalist society. A bunch of conspiracy there.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: But in reality we've seen that based on Scripture Revelation
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: thirteen economics is clearly there. The buying and selling, we've
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: seen it come. Now every every every year there's another
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: little but here we are I think in the last
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: ten years, especially with the advancement of crypto, we can
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: talk about cryptocurrency, but it's you have it at a
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: macro level, like we talk about it at a macro level,
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: but at a micro level like you just mentioned Canada.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: Well you go to China. There's several communities, societies already,
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: cities that are already one hundred percent cash lists one
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: hundred percent. I mean, it's not even it's not make
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: believe anymore.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Blockchain technology has its limitations.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: That's a different story.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah you can, it's not a different story because you
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: can't move everybody into certain of the like say, for
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: many years, in the at least last five six the
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: talk was that cryptocurrency would be the new digital currency.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: I don't think so, but it.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Can't be because tech, for one, it requires massive data centers,
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: massive power, and crypto. Eventually, the blockchain is so big
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: that it can't sustain itself anymore. So now we're also
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: hearing central bank digital currencies, currencies coming out of the banks,
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: and so it's it's a shift in the type of technology,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: and it's a shift in the right direction.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Well's a shift in technology, but it's also you got
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: to think about the motive. I already said it. For
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: young people, it's the convenience factor. They can just get
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: on their phone and do this and they pay you.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: And I paid you. Hey, I paid you for a
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: dollar a quarter for the coffee you bought for me.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: Venmo man constantly.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: So it's convenient. Why do governments want to do it?
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Because it gives them control and because they don't have
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: people buying and trading outside of a taxable exchange.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: That's that's the other threat is Venmo and PayPal. Because
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: you can so put your they'll ask for a putting
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: your Uh, they want to do that for you. Hey,
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: we need your Like I get this thing from PayPal.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: It says, hey, we need your so security number, otherwise
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: we're going to automatically take twenty percent of anything that
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: comes in from a friend or.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Well, let's face it, every state government for years has
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: on their state tax return, and you look at yours,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: it typically says how much did you purchase from electronically
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: or of the internet, and you're supposed to report that
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: so you can pay a tax on it. Well, most people,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: uh nothing, Yeah, right, So the state governments realize they're
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: losing out on tax revenue, and so there's an incentive
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: for governments to be able to put a finger on
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: that pulse, not only for the tax revenue, but to
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: be able to stop the pulse for people that get
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: out of line, like the truckers in Canada. I think
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Nathan's right that was a traumatic example of government overreach,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: and yet it happened in my home state. Our governor
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: just recently was forced to pay. Now he's going to
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: use taxpayer dollars to do it, a major fine for
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: violating the constitutional rights of Kentuckians by not allowing them
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: to assemble for worship. And it was grossly institutional but
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: he did it, and so he'll pay a fine using
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: taxpayer dollars. So government is constantly going to look for
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: ways to have that kind of control and power.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: And I think we could look at China as the example.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: The social credit score, where millions of cameras are following
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: you an algorithm and AI is judging you based on
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: your purchases, and all of that is how loyal you
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: are to the government. You get a social credit score,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: which gives you a certain privileges. I saw an interview
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: with a guy who was a journalist in China. Of course,
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: journalists are meant to call out government. He had the
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: worst credit score possible and he could barely travel. He
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: couldn't get on trains. And we're seeing this move to
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: try to get people to live within like a fifteen
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: mile radius of their city and all their purchases, and
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: if you step out of that radius, well, all of
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: a sudden, your finances don't work anymore. And that's how
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: it does in China, or like all that. That's just China.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: That's a communist country. Italy has just bought the system,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: and we're hearing some of the other Western free nations
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: want to buy it. I believe it's going to eventually
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: be global.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: I think people don't understand that AI is already here
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: in some ways, no young man who just completed some
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: advanced training through the military in technological weaponry and being
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: able to use computer systems to interact on a global
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: scale for not only surveillance but sometimes taking action. And
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: one of the examples they used in this military training
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: was the target store. You think the target store. The
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: target store computer had enough intelligence that it was able
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: to analyze the purchases of women online to recognize, Hey,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: that lady's pregnant, even before she knew that she was pregnant.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: They had a tremendous success rate, and so they'd start
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: popping up baby products to advertise, Hey, would you like
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: to buy a new crib? And the woe was like,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: why am I seeing this? And two or three weeks
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: later her doctor would tell you tell her, oh, guess
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: what you're pregnant. And the computer knew before the woman herself,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: just watching on certain things that they would buy in
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: the figure that out.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: The I think is we we watched the the we
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: talked about a macro, but we was seen in the
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: micro level. Again. In China, people there, like the one
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: guy wrote a book AI Superpower and he says, I
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: went there and I walked in and I had some cash,
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: and they're like, we don't take cash in the city.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: So he goes everywhere. I had to go out of
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: Ali Baba Pei Ali app he had to do it.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: And so one hundred percent. I mean, it's one hundred
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: percent done. But as we know, it's going to come
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: at a at a larger global level, it's gonna it's
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: gonna make its way around. Because we were in Israel
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: last a few weeks ago and we were in the
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: market and it said round there no credit cards and
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: I was like, man, we got a long way to
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: go here. If here I am no credit cards, it
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: was all it was all shekels.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Oh so they're still in cash.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: They were still So I was just interesting that the
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: idea that the raptures next week is like, hey, there's
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: still there's still those elements where that the technology is there,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: but it needs to spread the technology itself of the
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: infant structure. For them to take credit cards, I mean
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: they can do it on their phones, but they didn't
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: do any of that there.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: The one thing I would differ is I think the
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: rapture could be next week because I think the Lord,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: certain things can happen very quickly. One hundred years ago,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: there were many Christians who said, well, someday Israel's come
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: to come back to being, But I don't know how.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Those Jews are very happy in places like Germany and Poland.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: So in a very short order of time, God can
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: manipulate not only world history and the politics, but even
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: the technology. And sometimes I think we don't perceive how
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: rapidly things can happen. Just look at the decay in
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: our society and how quickly it's happened. So I still
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: am an advocator.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: Well, and we know the rapture can happen anytime, but
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: more in the sense.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: The technology these a rapture silence.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: Everybody with the rapture silence, and I don't want to
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: don't get send me an email.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: It hearken back to an earlier segment when we were
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: talking about the ten Kings that different segments of this.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: It's all pieces of a puzzle that go together to
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: make the infrastructure possible for one person.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Rule of rise.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a political component, you need that. There's a technology,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: there's a financial there's you know, the people are obsessed
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: with pharmacia, and during the tribulation. So there's a pharmaceutical point,
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: there's a shipping point, There's all these different magnets. But
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: when you put it together, you can create a global system.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: So I think, like you said, the financial part and
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: the technological part has come together to fill that part
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: where the anti Kurris can control the buyer song. Elon
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: Musk has to have all those satellites up or some
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: kind of enough.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Right now, there's a latency other things.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Signs are converging in that area.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you could see this in Andy's Mountains. I saw
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: a video of this this tribe, you know, they're living
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: up there with their lamas or whatnot, and they're all
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: walking around with cell phones connected to Elon Musk. The
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: idea is they get every single person with a cell phone.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: I went to the Amazon Jungle with people living in
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: mud huts over the Amazon River, and they already had
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: technology that blew my mind. Wow, in the nineteen nineties.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: You know, you're exactly right, Nathan. All these signs are
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: converging and it can happen very fast. Just recently, Gordon Moore,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: probably related to me, died and y'all kneho Gordon Moore
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: is he was one of the founders of Microsoft, I think,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: but he also came up with the silicon chip, and
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: so he was a pioneer in the tech world. And
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: he said that technology will double every eighteen months on
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: the computing power, that is, the storage capacity, and it
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: will half in price. And that's an exponential curve. So
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: when he first came out with the silicon chip, they
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: had like eighteen transistors on that chip. Wow, eighteen. The
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: most recent one had twenty billion on the same space.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: And so the advancement in technology is happening exponentially, and
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: that's why I say it could happen very fast.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: I just saw one. I ended up getting a laptop
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: and it had forty five billion transistors on there. You're
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: like this, it's insane. And as we step back and
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: we go, okay, even now with artificial intelligence, more's laws changing.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: It's not eighteen months anymore. With artificial intelligence even gastered
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: exactly right.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: And that's why even the United States says we're behind
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: because China is just ahead. And with that exponential rates.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: And we see the So the cash is you know,
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: to summarize in the sense of it's been talked about
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: for a long time. It's on its way. I do
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: agree that the crypto is is is actually being it's
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: outlawed in certain places in China because why it's decentralized.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: It'll never be, it'll never be an infrastructure. But they're
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: noting the play. But it's getting people. It's getting them
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: conditioned to the idea of something digital, a digital currency.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: They've had, Oh, I got this crypto I used to spend.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: I can buy things. I can buy things with bitcoin.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: You can do that, but it'll it can never be
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: because that we know that's that's a lack of control
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: unless you have somebody who's to control.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: There's a fantastic word right there. It's getting people conditioned
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: in all of these different categories. People are becoming conditioned
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: to want somebody to take charge and be in power.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: The Germans wanted a great leader. I fu're the world
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: right now is going to clamor for a save, which
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: is exactly what has been spoken of the Prime Minister
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: of Belgium Spock said, we need a man who is
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: going to take charge. So the world is being conditioned
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: in all these different arenas, politically, financially, technologically to embrace
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: the coming one world government and the coming Antichrist.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: And that's what we have such a leadership vacuum right now.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: I mean all across the planet, they're looking for who's
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: the strongest guy who could possibly and we got psychopaths
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: like Xijingping and Putin, but the rest of them are
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: weak and poor, and so I think when you get
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: a strong leader, people are clamoring for that. They'll they'll
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: turn it. Even Israel, that's where the Lord said that
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: someone will come in my name and you'll follow him.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, people want that. And I wonder if we
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: have such a leadership vacuum across the planet because the
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: Lord is using that to work towards a super powerful
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: leader to come up. And that's why I think a
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: lot of when people talk about the Antichrist, so who
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: could he be? I don't think anybody on the board
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: possibly could do that because it'll qualify and we let's
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: say Putin's Gog of the Gog, make Gog or Wolle
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: white out, and the kings of these will become weak
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: until the very end.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Of until the very quickly, yeah, very quickly, yeah.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: I agree. Well, let's switch over to another topic, and
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: that is a thing that's been discussed for years and
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: years and years, and that's really the Ezekiel thirty eight.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: I remember. I remember again being a young Christian. I
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: had my prophecy Bible, you know, and I read about
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: it says war with Russia, and I was like, what
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: warworth Russia with Israel? That's in the Bible, and so
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: it said he's Ego thirty eight, and so I go
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: there and I'm reading and I did not see the
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: word Russia, and I was like, what in the world,
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: what are they talking about? And so it's interesting how
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: this idea of the war, of a Middle Eastern war
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: surrounding the nation of Israel. And then we could talk,
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: you know, whether Palmatey three is a prophecy or not.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: Isaiah you know seventeen with Damascus and Jeremi forty nine
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: with the Elam, you have, all of these, those are
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: all possibilities. I think everybody agrees He's Ego thirty eight
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: for the most part, is one hundred percent of prophecy
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: for sure. But now that's been going on, people have
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: been talking about it since in the early nineties. But
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: then I'll say this, you know, the big players Russia,
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: Iran and Turkey, you know those three and at the
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: time Turkey was a friend of the West in the
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: early nineties. But then I remember the switch.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Well, it's still a member of NATO, a member of nationally,
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: it's still a friend of the West, but it's realigning.
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's talk about that.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think you're right. There was a buzz
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: if you will, in the early nineties and in years
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: gone by, but people didn't quite see how it come
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: to pass because, well, Turkey's a friend. You mentioned Russia
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: not being in here. What we're talking about when you
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: look at Ezekiel thirty nine is some of the nations
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: that are listed. So it doesn't list Iran, but it
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: lists Persia, and Persia clearly is where Iran is today.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: It lists some other nations that are still around, like Ethiopia.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: But when it talks of about Meyshek and Tubul and
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: the Rush people, the people of Rush, well, it's a
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: king to the north, and so whether Gog and Maygog
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: are actual names or whether they're titles, it was the
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: reference to this, this land, this kingdom or empire from
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: the north that's going to seek power and to seek
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: to come and take spoil and plunder from Israel. And
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: for years people say, well, what do they want in Israel?
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: It's destiny back again. In the nineties, it was fruit
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: that was fit or salt salty.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: In the eighteens, why would you want to go to Israel.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: It's a god forsaken place. It's empty desert land and swampland.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: But today we understand Israel is not only a high
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: tech center of development with medical and technology, but it
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: also has natural gas and mineral resources. So all of
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: those things come into play. And again Russia has re
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: emerged along with these nations. So yeah, dismissed by Barack
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Obama as a matter of fact, Russia. He said, if
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: you remember the presidential election in twenty and twelve when
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Mitt Romney mentioned Russia as a major threat, and Barack
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Obama scoff and said, oh, come on, the Cold War's over.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: Get rid of that old mentality because the Russian bear
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: has been defined. Well, just a handful of years later,
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: the Russian bear came back as being perceived as a
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: major threat, and it will again be a threat to Israel.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: And you can find Russia in Ezeki thirty eight and
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: thirty nine. If you get our website Christian Prophecy dot org.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: We have quite a number of videos and articles about that.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: And it depends on which version of the Bible you used.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: But rash can you be taken as a noun indicating
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: a landmass or a particular area, which would be Russia
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: the farthest north, or it can be an adjective as
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: a prince or king. So it depends on which chief, Yeah,
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: which you're going to take. But when you look at
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: the context, it clearly is pointing to an individual, a
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: person or anh Yeah, and from the north, from the
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: farthest north. And for years people say, oh, Turkey's got
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: to be where gog is going to come from. Turkey's
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: not the forest. You can actually it's amazing. Look at
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Jerusalem and go straight north and hit Moscow and that's
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: the farthest north. We're seeing that alignment too, So even
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: the current events are substantiating that rash should be taken
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: as a now not an adjective. And in the interpretation
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: of Ezekiel thirty eight.
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we were there at Israel, and of course you're going,
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: I'm going, yes, a few days and you know, I
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: have never felt unsafe in Israel and even there when
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: we we did miss by forty five minutes the terrorist attack,
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: we were in that exact spot where the guy ran
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: some people over, and there was an Italian tourist that died.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: On the last day when we were there, we were
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: in Tel Aviv and we were just burning up some
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: time before we went to the airport, and we were
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: there on the promenade, a whole bunch of music. It
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: was really fun. I was like, hey, let's go walk
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: along the beach as we have time. And again we
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: came down, we met south and we headed up back
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: and right after we left a guy came right up
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: there where those people playing music. That's so we're like,
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: you know, what the Lord was with us? And uh.
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: And the interesting thing is that there was an Italian
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: tourist that died. But it has been universally true that
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: terrorists there they don't target tourists. They like our money too,
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: they do, and they're after Israelis only. Yeah, it just
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: happened to be. When you're there at Tel Aviv, you
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: don't know who's a tourist and who's not. There's just
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: because Tel Aviv is pretty worldly. There was far too
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: much to see when you walk around the beach area,
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: but you're like wow. But when the attack happened, he
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: was just going after a big group of people, which
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: most likely he considered them to be Tel Aviv people,
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: but there was tourists in the mix. But when we
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: see right now, let's kind of summarize, things are heating up,
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: like really we we we're talking about a long time,
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: but like never before with with the players, his blah
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: in the north, with Syria, with even Russia coming in
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: having more of that. Iran certainly trying to bring weapons
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: in through Syria into into Lebanon, into the gold On Heights,
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: and then of course you have a Gaza and even
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: Jordan's trying to get there, trying to rope Jordan into
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: be involved. Iran is a major rule player.
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  Speaker 1: It is a major role player. And I think we,
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: meaning the West and specifically the American administration right now,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: has totally dropped the ball relative to Iran. So in
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: the last few years, we could talk about the Abraham
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Accords and Israel beginning to establish relationships with some of
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: the other Gulf states because they recognized Iran as being
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: a military threat to them, not only because they come
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: from a different branch of Islam. But because they're a
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: rising power, the United States took out Iraq, and really
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: that was a balance because they had great animosity with Iran.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: With Iraq gone aro and kind of ascended and now
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: became the threat. But of late, the other tragedy is
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: because the Biden administration is totally dropping the ball in
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: that whole area of the world. Some of those Middle
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: Eastern states are now aligning with China, and China has
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: become the power broker, even to create a repproachment, if
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: you will, between Saudi Arabia and Iran. So all this
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: bode's very dangerous for Israel. Now we know Bible prophecy.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: Israel is not going to be wiped off the map
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  Speaker 1: in spite of what the Ayatolas say, but it creates
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: a tender box. And that's where Bible prophecy comes into play,
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: because again, when the chaos erupts on the world, we
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: think through the rapture, then Russia and this war could
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: happen before the rapture. Don't get me wrong, but we
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: know that Russia will seize the opportunity to gain power,
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: and not only by seizing plunder in Israel, but also
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: by bringing into its fold all of those Middle Eastern
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: oil resources.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: One of the things that's come up in the past,
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: let's say five years. You know, they're no doubt he's
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: you get thirty eight. Magog is the leader. They're Gog
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: and Magog is which you would say Russia is the
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: leader of this confederacy. But what I find out is
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  Speaker 3: if we were to again put on the maybe the
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  Speaker 3: top ten superpowers, you know, America would Russia obviously probably
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: would be in there some ways, China. But now you
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: have Russia buying drones from Iran, and now they're getting
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: ready to build a factory near Moscow. So you're like,
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: now Russia is coming to the place where Iran is
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: this superpower of military industrial complex, and a superpower is
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: buying from Iran. Now you're like, there's the idea of
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: them having thousands and thousands of these unmanned Kamakazi type
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: drones is extremely important in developing really or seeing the
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: scenario of the way at place and the danger I
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: mean we know on the end. So it doesn't mean
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: that Israel won't suffer some major weakening.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: In all those other terrorist groups are trying to get
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: that same technology whether it tesbl Ahamas. My son recently
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: was flying in that part of the world and they
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: had to deconflict because they're Russian aircraft and pilots all
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: over the Middle East. Not well advertised. Our media is
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: chasing after all the wrong stories in my estimation, and
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: again dropping the ball on things that have significance not
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: only to our nation but to the world. And there's
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: many threats multiplying on the world scene.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: Well we don't realize those under the scenes. Russia's and
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: its death throws right now. It's lost forty percent of
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: its economy used to sell gasoline into Europe, which Israel
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: is picking up, and so that's in the jaw to
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: bring God down to They don't want rue Israel competing
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: with it. But the population of replacement in Russia is
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: the worst in the world. In two generations, Russia will
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: barely have a population. There'll be a minor, minor power.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: And from all I've read, Putin knows this, and this
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: big expansionist movement is to try to say Russia from
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: losing out is economy and its population. We know from
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: the gog Ma gog War is that Russia will cease
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: to be a superpower now potentially is one of the
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: four nations that's described in the Millennial Kingdom, so it
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: will survive in some respect. Matter of fact, as a
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: result of the God stepping in, only a ninth of
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: the attacking army coming from Russia in the Islamic world,
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: so we see Russia, even though it's rising, will quickly
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: fall at the onset of the tribulation. The Islamic world
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: can't be a player. Well, what do we see as
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: a result of the God meg Gog war? Only this
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: beast of this Harlot system of worship followed by a
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: beast worship in the So you can't have these competing religions.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: So there's no Islam really coming into the So we're
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: seeing it. There'll be a massive geopolitical shift in the
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: world almost overnight.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: In the anti christ in the very end, leading to
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: the battle barm again the Kings of.
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: The East, South and East, which is interesting because parts
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: of the world and so there's also a ticking time
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: bomb in China we just mentioned a moment ago China's
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: losing population.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: China realizes that if they don't act in a fairly
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: expeditious manner to receize Taiwan, and to expand their power,
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: they will actually contract in terms of their population. So
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of impulse, if you will, to move
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: in a dramatic way, whether it's the Putins of this world,
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: the Jjian pins.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: And China's real estate market is about to collapse and
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: so is their economy. Most people don't realize that China
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: is only weeks away from bankruptcy, and it's no And
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: so you're hearing these guys knowing that their countries are
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: in deep dire despair, and now they're all, you know,
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: banging their drums and rattling their sabers to make it
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: seem like they're big and get a little more attention,
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: more money, more supplies. But in the geopolitical system of
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: the tribulation, Russia and China really aren't players.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: It is an age old technique for a politician to
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: distract from crisis at home by creating a problem to
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: address abroad and create an enemy. That's what the despots
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: throughout the Middle East have done for years. Israel's the great,
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: you know enemy, and so it distracts people from the
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: squalor they're living in at home, and that's that's going
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: to happen again, playing into some of those.
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: So let's you know, we're how do we end this
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: on a hope, on a hopeful, hopeful note. I mean
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: that you guys were preaching, you know, this weekend at
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: a church. All this stuff is serious. I mean, there's
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: a lot of there's a lot of people that are
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: very serious in the sense of Ukraine, and they've died
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: and and others, and a lot of trouble for Israel's coming.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: We know that even though we know they survived, there's
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: still trouble. What's the hope.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: Here's one hope. I mean, you can think about the
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: prophet Jeremiah. We call him the weeping Prophet. He had
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: to witness horrors taking place in his nation. He had
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: to declare prophecies that were just horrific even to imagine,
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: and they took place, and he witnessed them cannibalism in
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: the streets. And so this man had much to be
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: sorrowful about. And so he wrote a book called Lamentations.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: But in Lamentations he says, in chapter three, verse twenty one,
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: this I will return to my heart. Therefore I will
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: wait and hope the loving kindness of Yahweh, the Lord
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: God indeed never cease, for his compassions never fail. They
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: are new every morning. Great is your faithfulness. Yahweh is
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: my portion, says my soul. Therefore I will wait for him.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: I think that has a prophetic ring. Even as we
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: witness all these things taking place, all the convergence of signs,
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: and some of them are very tragic and very dramatic,
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: yet we have hope. We have hope in the Lord God,
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: who is promised. In this world you will have trouble.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: But I have overcome the world, and I'm going to
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: prepare a place for you, and I will come and
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: bring you to myself. And so we wait for him,
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: and that gives us hope. And not just as Oprah
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: would say, hope and hope. Our hope is in the
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: Blessed Hope, who is not a concept, he is a person.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: We Our hope is in Jesus Christ. So even the
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: signs are not signs that we should be distraught about.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: Like Adrian Rodgers says it's getting glory or said it's
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: getting gloriously dark. They point to the Lord's soon coming
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: soon eminent.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: And I love Psalm too because it gives us the
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: God's eye view of all the happenings of humanity. Why
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: do the nations rage, the people plot in vain, The
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: kings of their set themselves up. The rulers take counsel
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: together against the Lord and against his annoying anointed, saying,
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: let us break their bonds and pieces and cast away
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: their cords from us. And here's this verse four, He
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: who sits in the heavens shall laugh. The Lord shall
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: hold them in derision. You know, it's like watching a
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: bunch of ants do a power play in the hive
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: while he stands outside of the ennhive and watches, you know,
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: and he just has to shake it, and everything changes.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: And that's what he's going to do with the tribulation.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: He's going to shake that. And then and what he
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: sets up his kingdom of peace and righteousness and justice,
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: And we who are a saints will are promised to
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: rule and reign under him, So failed, flawed human government
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: will be gone. The Lord Jesus Christ will rule from Jerusalem,
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: and we'll have a perfect government because the saints will reign.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: There won't be lawmakers because we only have one lawmaker
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: and oh monarch, right, Yeah, it's the tribute or the sorry,
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: millennial kingdom is as monarch theocratic.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: I love the last three verses of what you just read,
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: Nathan and Sam too, because it says so now, o kings,
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: this is written to the kings, but really all of
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: us show insight and take warning, Oh judges of the earth.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: Serve yeahweh fear and rejoice. Rejoice with trembling. Kiss the sun.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: In other words, honor the Sun lest he become angry
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: and you perish in the way. For his wrath, it says,
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: may soon be kindled. We know it will soon be kindled.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: But how blessed are all who take refuge in Him
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: and who in the sun. And so right there as
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: a gospel message, and the great hope that we have
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: in spite of the wrath that's about to be poured out,
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: Our hope is in him. If we've taken refuge in him.
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: You think about just I was, I've been doing something
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: some other work in Thessalonians, and just the promise that
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: we have of being children of the light, that when
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: the day of the Lord arrives, it won't overtake us.
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: We wouldn't be I mean, there's a certain level of
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: it'll come at a time you do not know. But
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: then on the other hand, we are talking about it,
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: when if the Day of the Lord arrived tomorrow, we'd
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: be like, we've been talking about this. So that gives
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: us hope, That gives us comfort to know that we're
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: watching all of the infrastructure, all of the setting of
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: the stage. I mean, that's such a great analogy that
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: people have used for a long time, is well, when
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: does the play start, and well, the play is the
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: day of the Lord. Well, you know when they need
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: to get this set up, and they need to get
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: that set up, and all the different pieces and the
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: puzzle pieces, I think that most of them are on
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: the stage. There's a little fine tuning that needs to
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: be done on some of the little pieces that aren't
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: aren't here yet, but I wouldn't expect them to be
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: all fully advanced before. Sometimes at the last minute, somebody's
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: up there, wait one last thing. I got to get
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: the Michael here, we got to get this little piece there.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: But we're watching here. We are sitting out in the
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: audience and watching all the stage pieces come to play,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: and that's extremely encouraging.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: And when the last person who's meant to be saved
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: in the church age gets saved. The Lord's coming first.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: Yes, the Father will say, go and get your bread.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, then let's let's let's talk about that for a minute. Two,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: because let's talk about that moment. Because we're watching all
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: the things. It's pointing to something. It's pointing to what
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: I think is so personal as John fourteen. Let's talk
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: about that.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I think that, as we said at the
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: beginning of our conversation today, we can look at the signs,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: and the signs are exciting. Some of them are very concerning.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: People can tend to get discouraged or are anxious, shall
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: we say, and even Christians sometimes can hearken to that.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: But we need to be talking about the hope that
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: is ours and looking forward to Jesus Christ. Because the
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: signs themselves. It's like driving down the road and seeing billboards.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: You don't stop and just, you know, gawk at the billboard. Hey,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: let's just stop right here. Let's just stare at this
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: billboard for a while. Let's have a picnic. No, the
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: billboard is telling you the destination is coming ahead. And
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: so all these signs are pointing to the Lord's coming,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: and so we should have courage take courage and have hope,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: and really we should be expressing that to our kids.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: I've been on a kick for the last two or
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: three years because the Lord, I think, grabbed my heart
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: and said, are you expressing your frustration over the signs
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: that you witness even in your own society? Are you
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: sharing the hope that you have in Christ with your
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: own children, your own grandchildren and others. And I've tried
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: to be very intentional about sharing the hope I have,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: even as we talk about the signs all the time,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: and there are a lot that give us great concern
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: for our nation around the world, even but we should
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: be talking about our hope much more.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think too often we can get to people like, oh,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: you Christians, all you guys are looking at speranti Christ,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: even some Christians, but even some brothers and sisters who
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: don't maybe they're not dispensation and maybe the replacement emoss whatever,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: you know, partial predicts. They're like, oh, yeah, you guys,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: all you guys do are looking for the Antichrist where
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: I'm looking for Christ. And you're like, you know what
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: that if that's true, that's a fair criticism because but
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: I'm not looking for Antichrist. I'm not looking for the Antichrist,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: so I think it's it's sometimes it's a straw man.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: But there are those, I think there are those that
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: could probably spend a little bit more time reading the
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: Book of Ephesians rather than revelation, you know, or whatever.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: You know. They're they're so prophecy oriented that there are
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: other areas of systematic theology in their minds are pretty weak.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: All the time to balance the fruit of the spirit.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: Even within our realm, some of the guys, you know,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: are we manifesting the fruit of the spirit and all
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: those different categories? Are we just fixated on, like I said,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: the sign posts.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Bible prophecy is meant to give us hope.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 5: It is.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: You can get bogged down in the darker aspects of it,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: but that's a tiny, tiny, little fraction at a time.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: The Millennial Kingdom a thousand years, the eternal state, I
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: mean that goes on for a billion, trillion, you know, timelessness.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: As we got, we're entering the darkest part of the night,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: which I think the tribute when is it darkest just
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: before the dawn. We're at midnight. The rapture's coming. We're
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: getting to that really dark time in human history, the
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: day of the Lord. But after that it's the morning sun.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: And that's and that's what Christians or Christians aren't meant
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: to stop and look at the tribulation. They're meant to
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: look at Christ's victory at the end of the tribulation.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: And the setting up is case.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: Let's let's go even a little earlier, because I think
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: there's such a parallel with John fourteen, where Jesus is,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: he's getting ready to leave and and he says, you know,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: let not your hearts be trouble, right, you believe in God.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: Believe also me. In my father's house are many mansions, right,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: And if it wasn't wasn't that way, I would have
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: told you. But I go to prepare place here, and
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: this is what I love that he says, so I
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: can come back and receive you to myself, so that
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: where I am you can be also, And you're like, okay.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: First of all, there's that personal love between us and
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: the Savior, and I would say more importantly between him
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: and us, that he's going to come and receive us
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: directly to himself. But then he says, hey, because where
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: I am he's going away, he says, I'm going away right,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: so where I am you can be also. So to me,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: it's such a good rapture passage where when I look
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: forward in the sense of the hope, yeahs Jesus doing
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: that at the end. But it's the blessed hope idea
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: of Jesus is going to come and you know it's
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: going to do. He's going to give me a hug.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: He's going to bring us in and we're going to
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: go to the place where he is. That's what I'm looking.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: Even if Paul talked about the rapture and the classic
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: passage in for Thessalonians, for he gave a perspective of
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  Speaker 1: how the dead and Christ are going to rise first
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  Speaker 1: and we reliab will be and remain will be caught up.
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  Speaker 1: There's the rapture verse itself. But he says that we
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  Speaker 1: should comfort one another with these words. In other words,
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  Speaker 1: even the anticipation of being caught up to Jesus Christ
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  Speaker 1: should be a comfort. It should not be something that
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  Speaker 1: causes us to be worn down even as we witness
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  Speaker 1: the signs. But the signs themselves should bear evidence that
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  Speaker 1: we are living in what we call the season of
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  Speaker 1: the Lord return. So if you go to Hebrews chapter ten,
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  Speaker 1: the author says that we should recognize as a matter
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  Speaker 1: of fact. He says, when we see these things taking place,
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  Speaker 1: we should encourage each other, and all the more as
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  Speaker 1: we see the day drawing near. So he takes for
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  Speaker 1: granted that we would see the day. And I agree
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  Speaker 1: with you. This is a reason for celebration and for
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  Speaker 1: looking forward with great anticipation to Jesus Christ. So our
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  Speaker 1: hearts should overflow. Even the word courage we talked about.
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  Speaker 1: What is that root word. It's from the French core,
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  Speaker 1: which means heart. So as we encourage one another, it's
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  Speaker 1: what overflows from our heart. And that goes back to
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  Speaker 1: my comment. What overflows from my heart should not be
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  Speaker 1: anxiety or fear, or discouragement or despair. We've got enough
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  Speaker 1: of that in this world. It should be excitement and
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  Speaker 1: enthusiasm about our soon returning care.
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  Speaker 3: And we had we know that, you know, here we are.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I wasn't born in eighteen forty, you know
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  Speaker 3: or whatever. But the Lord's like, hey, I've put all
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  Speaker 3: of us, so hear us three at least we're sitting here.
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  Speaker 3: And Zaga had you. I've had you born for this time.
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  Speaker 3: I saved you for this time, and I've equipped you
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  Speaker 3: for this time. So there's nothing for us to fear that.
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  Speaker 3: I tend to think that, you know, things are going
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  Speaker 3: to get more difficult for the church, the American Church
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  Speaker 3: before the rapture happens, which we will, it is, well,
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  Speaker 3: we'll join the what we've seen with our brothers and
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  Speaker 3: scissors in China and Pakistan all the others that they've
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  Speaker 3: existed for a long time. But and Kennedy, yeah, well,
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  Speaker 3: one of the things that sticks out to me is
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  Speaker 3: going back is even that the Thessalonians. He says, and
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  Speaker 3: so we shall ever be with the Lord. And You're like,
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  Speaker 3: wait a minute, so what the rapture will never be
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  Speaker 3: separated ever again? And I think that's the longing that
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  Speaker 3: we have is there is a I mean, the Lord
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  Speaker 3: is with us, you know, but not in that way
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  Speaker 3: that we want. But once the rapture happens and we're
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  Speaker 3: in his presence, it's Paul is just I think he's
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  Speaker 3: just that loving going Not only is he going to
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  Speaker 3: receive us to himself, but we're never going to be
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  Speaker 3: separated from ever one wonderful one.
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  Speaker 2: Preacher said it so well, it kind of changed my
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  Speaker 2: mind about how I saw our purpose with the Lord.
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  Speaker 2: I always thought our purpose was have fellowship with the Lord,
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  Speaker 2: and the pastor says, we're meant to bask in the
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  Speaker 2: God's glory. That's the fellowship, and that's why we walk
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  Speaker 2: around with life feeling empty. Even as Christians. There's there's
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  Speaker 2: always this little feeling that there's something missing, that that
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  Speaker 2: this isn't right, that nothing is natural. It's because our
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  Speaker 2: natural state is to bask in the glory of God
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  Speaker 2: and enjoy His perfect fellowship, and until then we're not
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  Speaker 2: completed beings.
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  Speaker 3: Amen, gentlemen, Tim appreciate you guys being here.
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