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The Sandwich Generation, a 4am Fall, and a $6 Box of Equal · You're Not Too Much

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My consistent concern is that she's
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gonna fall, and she's gonna fall and hurt herself, which has happened
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before, and I'm not gonna know, or nobody's gonna
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know. We were literally just calling because I needed somebody to help
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me lift her up off the floor, but they sent 8 people.
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And they're all very nice. They all have different roles. They're all responsible for different
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things. I get that. And I guess they just want to be prepared,
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but It is so many people. And also, don't
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let old people run out of their artificial sweetener. They will get upset
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and they will riot, and that gets dangerous.
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Boop. Hi everybody, I'm Lauren Howard.
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Welcome to Different Not Broken, which is our
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podcast on exactly that, that there are a lot of people in this world walking
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around feeling broken, and the reality is you're just different and that's fine.
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I broke the sacred Pact of
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Daughters of My Mother. Accidentally. She was back in the
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hospital last week, and I let her run out of Equal.
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And I didn't have any Equal at my house, so I
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couldn't bring her any. So I had to go to the store to buy Equal,
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which felt incorrect. Equal feels like the kind of thing that you
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should never pay for. You should always get it free because you stole a
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bunch from the coffee shop. Like, it doesn't feel like a thing you should ever
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pay for. But I bought a box of Equal. Did you know that a
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box of Equal costs $6 for carcinogens?
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$6. So anyway, I went and bought a box of
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Equal, and I checked out, and I brought it to her. And she
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was like, why did you go shopping? I had some at my house. And I
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was like, the store seemed less complicated than going to your house, even though
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she lives 2 blocks from me and I have a key. And I know where
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everything is. It just seemed like a lot. It seemed
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a much more direct option to just go to the
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sugar aisle, and it was pretty fast. Also, I've
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apparently become that person who's like, in my day this was—
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which is ironic. But also, as I was checking out at the store,
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I looked up and I saw someone who
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very much looked like a guy I went And so
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while I was trying to figure out who he looked like, I
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realized and then went, oh, that can't be him. That guy looks
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like a 40-year-old man. And I thought about it and I realized
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that is correct. That would be exactly— yeah, no, that's it. Yeah,
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like, I'm almost 40. He didn't stay 18. That's not how it
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works. And then I just was like, oh, beans. It's
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like, what do you do with that? The people around you age while you do.
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That seems incorrect. I don't know if that's what I signed up for. And so
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that was just like a cosmic letdown. So I'm headed to the hospital
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to see my mother who was in the hospital again, and
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again faced with my own mortality while heading to the
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hospital. And I was like, all of this feels very cruel.
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I don't think I did anything to deserve any of this. So I got
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myself a mango drink and I drank my sorrows. It didn't have alcohol in it,
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it just had sugar. That's how I drink my sorrows. It's just through copious amounts
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of sugar and syrup drinks. But yeah, I don't know if you know this, but
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we're old. Somebody let us get old. And I don't know
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when it happened because I am so sure, like super,
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super sure that I was in college
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like yesterday. I was even in high school
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like yesterday. I still can't believe that they let me graduate high school.
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I still have dreams almost every night that I
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forgot to graduate high school or that I didn't take a class that I
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needed to graduate college. Literally every night, the same
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dream that I forgot to do whatever I needed to do to
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graduate, and somebody's gonna find out
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despite the fact that it has been a lot more years than I
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care to admit. So there is a world where
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That guy you know looks like a 40-year-old man because he's a 40-year-old man,
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and that seems unfair to me. I do not appreciate that.
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And also, don't let old people run out of their artificial sweetener. They will get
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upset and they will riot, and that gets dangerous. So I'm in this
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weird kind of suspended place. I don't even know— I
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don't even know how to describe it. It's just a place, and it is
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not a physical place. It's like a Mental, emotional
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place that if you've been listening at
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all, you know that I have been caretaking for my mom a lot, which
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was never supposed to be my lot in life. I said it was
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never going to be my lot in life. Not supposed to be, but I said
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I was never going to do it. And then here I am doing it, which
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is shocking to no one except me, by the way.
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Shocking to exactly no one. But for the most
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part, it's kind of her and I against the world, and that has all
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sorts of implications. My husband is very instrumental and super helpful and takes
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care of a bunch of stuff for us. And I do have a brother who's
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nearby who will help out when he can, but he's not the
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decision-making type. He is not the critical thinking type. He is the be at
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this place at this time and do this thing type. And so I still have
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to kind of run the show even when he's involved, which I again swore I
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would never do. And yet here we are. Yay,
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eldest daughter. I was one of the full-time caretakers for my dad. There were
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4 of us, and we were basically at his
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house taking care of him all the time except to sleep. And one of my
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siblings lived there, so he was there all the time. And then I
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came and went. I had literally just had a baby, so I would bring the
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baby back and forth, and she was literally a couple of weeks
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old. We're not talking about infant stage, like she was still a newborn, and I
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was bringing her back and forth. The anxiety was constant
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then. It was about his eventual
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demise. It was not about his day-to-day wellbeing. I was
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not concerned that while I was gone,
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something was going to happen to him other than
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the worst possible thing. Like, I was concerned that was gonna happen. That wasn't my
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anxiety. My anxiety was this stage of life, the fact that he was so sick.
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But there were things that, as much as I worried all the time and it
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was stressful all the time, I didn't have to worry about. Because there were other
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humans there. And that is just not the case this time.
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It is so wildly different. And so my
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stress level about her general wellbeing is not nearly as high as
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it was when we were caretaking for my dad, because she is
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not as sick as he was by any means. But my stress
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level about her needs is 10 times higher
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because it's just me. Again, my husband does help out and I do have a
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brother who can help out, but nobody's jumping in and doing
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things unless I ask them to. Unless I'm directing traffic, nothing's
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getting done. She does do some things for herself. And so, went out of
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town 2 weeks ago, and I didn't leave anybody instructions
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on what to do with my kid, but I left instructions on what to do
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with my mother. And like, here's the key to her house, and this is how
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you get in, and if you need to do things, and you need to text
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her this, and ask her to do this, and make sure she does— like, I
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literally left instructions. On how to take care of my mother.
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But my kids, I was like, they'll be fine. They can scrounge for Pop-Tarts.
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It's fine. They're fine. Also, like, my husband is a competent
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adult who parents and doesn't babysit, so he didn't need
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instructions from me on how to take care of our children. He's fully capable of
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doing that as a grown-ass man. I don't have that
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for my mother because that guy died, which is rude.
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So Like trying to figure out what the right level of
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anything is for her because she is
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ambulatory, she is able to get around, but she also falls
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and she's had a couple of nasty falls. She's also had a couple of just
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like innocuous falls. Like she was fine, she just needed help getting up.
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She lives alone. There's nobody in her house with her. We considered having
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somebody move in there, but we haven't been able to figure out what the right
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balance is there. Like how much freedom does she need? I'm not letting her drive
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right now. So anytime she has to go to a doctor, I have to take
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her. Sometimes I can arrange with my I'd rather have him take her, but certainly
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not letting her drive right now. And so it's just like
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every day is, first off, like, are we doing any of this right? Are there
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resources we should be using that I don't know about? Like, I wasn't paying
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attention to her home health company and she's supposed to be getting PT
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multiple times a week and they didn't show up for 10 days. And she
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forgot to tell me that they hadn't been there and that they had canceled a
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couple of times. And the home health company certainly didn't tell me. And I'm like,
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my goal is to get this woman back up and functioning and you guys don't
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show up for 10 days? Why do I have to manage the home health
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company to make sure that they send somebody? Who is supposed to be
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taking care of this? And so it's just stuff like that all the time.
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But my biggest fear is that she's going to fall and she's gonna fall while
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she's alone. There's little things that you just don't think about that in the
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way we live currently become this like cascading issue.
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So when she was in the hospital, she kept saying, this weird thing keeps
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coming up on my phone about my voice services not being available.
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And I reset something and the prompt went away and I figured I fixed it.
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But she said, like she had said multiple times before that, and I had been
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there when she had tried to use Siri to like unlock the front door or
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turn off lights and it, it just hadn't worked and she just wasn't
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responding. And so I went in and tried to reset Hey Siri and do all
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the things, but like as soon as that's not an immediate problem in front of
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you, you don't stop. think about the fact that your mom's voice activation is not
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working. Like, there's 10,000 other really important things to be thinking about.
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That's not the one you're thinking about. And so
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I had known there was a problem. I didn't realize it was still a problem.
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I didn't know we needed to test for it still, but I did know that
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there was a problem or there had been a problem in the past.
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And my consistent concern is that
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she's gonna fall. And she's gonna fall and hurt herself, which has happened
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before, and I'm not gonna know, or nobody's gonna know.
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And so we're doing some things to take care of her and to take care
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of that. I check in on her all the time because it's the right thing
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to do, and I want to make sure she's okay. But like, mostly I want
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to make sure that she's upright and that she hasn't slipped on something or whatever.
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So 2 things happened over the weekend. One of them is funny, one of them
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is less so. Saturday I wanted to make sure she had food because she had
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just come home from the hospital the day before. And so I knew she didn't
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have groceries in the house. We got her something she likes to drink, but I
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didn't think she had food. And so I texted her. I said, do you need
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lunch or groceries? And she didn't answer me. And I was like,
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okay. And so I text again. I said, hello? No answer. Sometimes she misses the
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first one. She usually responds to the second one. So I did something I never
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do. I called her and she
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sent me to voicemail. And I was like, excuse?
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And I might have had the little Nancy Guthrie moment where I was like, did
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somebody kidnap my mother because she just sent me to voicemail? But
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went down that rabbit hole. Not that, like, if somebody kidnapped my mother,
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they would bring her back in 2 seconds. I would not worry about them keeping
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her out for long. So then she called me back probably like 5
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minutes later because I sent her a text that said, IS EVERYTHING OK? In all
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caps because she was not responding to me. And I needed to make sure that
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she was not dead on her kitchen floor. And
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I was grabbing my keys to her house. She lives close enough away that I
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can walk there in about 3 minutes. So I was
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grabbing my keys and literally just gonna walk over there and make sure that she
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was not dead on the floor somewhere. And then she calls me back
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and I was like, are you alive? And she goes,
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yeah, I'm alive. Kind of hedged. And I was like,
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are you sure? And she goes, I didn't want
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you to get mad at me, but I went out with my friend. And I
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was like, my, how the tables have turned.
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How many times did I get yelled at for the completely
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innocuous trips I took out with my friends, probably to do things similar
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to what she did with her friend on Saturday?
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That is the kind of trouble I got into as a teenager. And the number
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of times I got yelled at for going out with friends. And I was like,
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oh, oh, you went out with a friend and you didn't tell me? You didn't
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think to check in before you left? You didn't send me a text or a
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note? And she was like, well, I didn't want you to get upset. And I
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was like, well, you know, here I am thinking that you're dead on the side
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of the road. And she finally goes, I'm fine, Mom. And I was like,
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mm-hmm, mm-hmm. See what that's like?
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So anyway, she texted me a couple hours later and said she was home and
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staying in for the night. It was like 5:30. It was not late. So she
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was in for the night. I made sure she didn't need anything. I went to
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bed kind of early, I think, feeling like, oh good, I was glad
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she got out. She was out, she was walking around, she went to
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HomeGoods and terrorized people with a shopping cart. Good for her,
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good for her. I went to bed not thinking much about it,
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and okay, we survived day 1 of whatever this
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setup is, and I'm like Constantly thinking about, all right, we need to go to
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the gastroenterologist. She needs— I need to find her a neurologist. We need to make
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sure that the cardiologist has an appointment set up. She's not waiting for November
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to see the cardiologist. We need to find a different cardiologist. Like, this is constantly
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running through my brain. Do we need a caretaker? Do we need somebody to move
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in with her? Does she need somebody who's physically there? It's nonstop.
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I'm asleep, and if my phone rings at night, I
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wake up. I leave my ringer on now, so like I would wake up.
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But all of a sudden my husband is standing there and he goes,
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your mom just called me. She fell in her bathroom
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and she's on the floor and she can't get up. I look at the clock,
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it's like 4 o'clock in the morning, and I'm like, what? What do you mean
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she's on the floor? 'Cause the way he was saying it, he wasn't saying she
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was hurt. He wasn't saying there was an emergency. He was
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just saying she's on the bathroom floor. And I'm like, okay, but what
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does that mean? What am I walking into? And he really didn't know. And I
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was like, why did she call you? I looked at my phone like, oh my
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God, I must have missed 7 calls from her. Nope. Nothing.
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I'm like, why did she call you? What? That doesn't even make sense. And he's
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like, I don't know. But she called me. She's like, I will go over there.
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He said, I will go over there with you. If she's in her bathroom, I
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don't want to walk in first because I don't know what I'm going to find.
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And I was like, that's fair, but I have no idea what the hell is
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going on. So we go over to her house and
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She's in the bathroom and she's laying flat on the bathroom floor.
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It was terrifying. There was nothing wrong, but it was just the way she was
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laying. She was laying like basically like starfished on the bathroom floor.
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And I didn't turn on the light before I got
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to her. So I went over
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to her and I guess she had put like a shirt behind her
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head because she couldn't sit up and she didn't wanna have her head on the
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hard floor. But the way it looked with the
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shadows, it looked like there was a pool of blood behind her head. And so
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I freaked the fuck out and then turned on the light and realized it was
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like a navy blue t-shirt. And I was like, oh dear fucking God.
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Oh my God. I think I got her sitting up. I don't
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remember. I know that I texted her and she didn't open the front door, which
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she can do from her phone, which told me she didn't have her phone with
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her. So I had no idea how she called my husband. And so
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then he brought me the key, 'cause I didn't even think to grab it, and
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I let myself in, and that's when I found her on the bathroom floor. She
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wasn't hurt, but she had slipped and she couldn't get back up, and then
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eventually she got so exhausted from trying to get up that she just
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basically laid down on the bathroom floor. And she said she'd been down there for
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a really long time. Nobody knows how long a long time is. I have no
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idea. So both my husband and I tried to get her up, and we were
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not able to. We could have Literally lifted her, but she's
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just in such a weird kind of body habitus that everything hurts her.
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And she like screamed when we tried to get her up cuz it was hurting
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her shoulder and whatever. And we finally got to the point where we're like, we
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have to call somebody to help. So 4 o'clock, 4:30 in the morning
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on a Sunday morning, I had to call 911
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and they got there very quickly. And I don't, maybe this is just an Orlando
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thing. I said this to someone today who insisted that this must just be a
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Either an Orlando or a Florida thing. But when we call
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for medical support via 911,
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so anything that affects like EMT
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paramedics, they send both the truck,
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the fire truck, and the ambulance, and they're
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both full. So anytime, like we were literally
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just calling cuz I needed somebody to help me lift her up off the floor.
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But they sent 8 people and they're all very nice. They all have different
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roles. They're all responsible for different things. I get that. And I guess they just
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wanna be prepared, but it is so many people.
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And so these guys come in, they were able to very
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quickly get her back up. They gave her some time. They checked her blood pressure
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to make sure that her blood pressure was high, but her blood pressure's always high.
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Also, she had just been lifted off the floor by several burly men, so that
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could make your blood pressure a little high. The people who came were great.
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She was fine. Anytime this happens, because
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she's geriatric, they do what's called a mental status
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exam where they ask certain questions that you have to answer
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so that they can make sure that you're oriented to all 4 planes.
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Time, place, person. I'm forgetting one anyway,
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but alert and oriented times 4 is what they're looking for. So. So they ask
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you where you are, they ask you what your name is, they ask a
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couple of other things. And then the last one they always ask, or the second
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to last one, is the one that they always give up on because every time
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they ask her who the president is, she says something along the lines of, that
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guy can go to hell. And then they go, okay, she's fine. She
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knows. And so I was giving all of her information to one of
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the paramedics and I hear them start doing the mental status exam. And
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I was like, he asked me something about her medications and I went,
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her medications are, hold on, she's about to yell. And then like clockwork, I
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hear her go, that guy can go to hell. And I was like, yeah, that's
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what I expected. And the guy goes, did they just ask her who the president
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is? And I said, yep. And he goes, yeah, we get that a lot. So
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anyway, they left her there because she's fine. They said, will you sign this form
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to say that you did not wanna be taken to the hospital? She said,
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absolutely. She got in bed. She promised me she would not get out of bed
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without notifying me so that I could come over if she needed help. And then
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she was able to get up and around on her own that day. And then
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the next night I said, I'm probably gonna come sleep at your house tonight because
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I don't want you getting up in the middle of the night by yourself. To
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which, this is so unlike my mother. My mother is usually like, you want to
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come spend time with me and dote over me and whatever?
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Absolutely. And she was like, no, you absolutely will not. You are going to sleep
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in your own bed. You do not need to come sleep here. I will be
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fine. And I was like, that might be a sign of some neurologic
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problem. Are you okay? Are you sure you're— this is the, this is what
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other parents do. This is not what you do. What is happening here? But I
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said, okay, then do not go to bed without your watch. 'Cause that was part
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of the thing. So when she fell, and this is part of like
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all of the things you just don't think about, when she fell, she
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didn't have her watch on. She hadn't been wearing it because she'd been in the
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hospital. And she has an Apple Watch that has done an excellent
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job of notifying us when there are problems before, but also her
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Hey Siri was not working. So the reason she ended up calling my husband
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instead of me is because she just kept screaming for Siri to
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call somebody. It finally listened when
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she said Kyle's name the 10th or 12th time.
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So it just wasn't being reliable, and that's
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the one that it happened to catch. So it's like these little things, like who
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would ever think to be concerned that Siri isn't working on your
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septuagenarian mom's phone? And then it's like
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the one time it's not working, we have an actual problem. And so
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there's stuff we just have to consider all the time that I never would've even
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thought to care about before. But she did do okay the next day.
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She did okay the next night. She made all the appointments she's supposed to make.
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She did all the things that she's supposed to do. She's not. Having issues cognitively.
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It's all physical. But it's this weird suspended place to
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be of, oh, that thing you were scared about that you
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told yourself over and over you were probably overreacting about? Oh, that happened.
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So now what do you do? I don't have space in my house to move
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her in here. I don't. We are bursting at the seams.
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I could move in with her, but I have kids.
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My kids deserve as much of me as my mom does, probably more.
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Actually, lots more. I do have this guy I'm married to who
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I want to see like occasionally, not that often. He'd be obnoxious. But
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like for the most part, I do enjoy having him around. And so just
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like moving out isn't an option. Moving out to take care of my mom is
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really not an option. But like the thing happened. The thing
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that I have been telling myself over and over is not going to happen and
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this is fine, it happened. And what do we do now? I'm
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genuinely not sure what we do now. Are there old people night nurses? I
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don't know. I think there actually are. But also, like,
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hiring somebody to be in your house all the time kind of sucks.
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It's terrifying. Like, she's given her passwords to
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Russian hackers before. I don't know. So there are so
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many things, so many decisions we have to make now that I did not anticipate
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having to make at this point in my life. That I did not think I
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would end up responsible for. And 3 or
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4 days ago, I was worried about a thing that I had no proof was
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going to happen. And now I am worried about a thing that actually very
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much did happen. And that is so much
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worse. It's so much worse. And so
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am I just gonna have to bite the bullet and move in with her for
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a little while? So while we figure this out, I don't know. Are we gonna
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have to find a full-time person to live there? Can we find like a nursing
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student who needs a place to live who might
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wanna get paid to live there and help her out? Maybe. I don't know.
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But like, there are ways to solve these problems and
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none of them are good. Like my husband and I have talked for a
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long time about the fact that eventually we are going to have to get a
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house big enough for both my mom and his mom. We've known that
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since we got married. It's a conversation we have every couple
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of months. Are we getting to that point? And we started taking it seriously a
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year or two ago, but it's not like something we can do. We can't
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just build onto our house and end up with a house big enough.
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It's not gonna happen. We're either gonna have to buy a new house or build
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a new house that has a private space for one of them, a private space
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for the other one. And then we've always assumed that it would be
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like a separate unit where they would each have a separate space that's
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disconnected from the house, but that's not
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better than her living 2 blocks away. It's a 30-second commute
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rather than a 3-minute commute, but it's the same thing. Like, she's still not in
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the house. She's still by herself.
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Anyway, so yeah, that's where we are, and that's what we're
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doing and what we're trying to survive through. But it is a weird
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suspended place to be in where Sandwiched
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between our parents and our children, trying to do the best by
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everybody. And I just wanna go on the record to say raising
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parents is 1,000 times harder than raising children.
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If my kids get extra mouthy, I can literally just pick them up and move
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them. They are both very thin and very small
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comparatively. One of them's tall and thin, the other one is just
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thin. She has no tall in her body, but if she gets
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Completely off the rails or something bad happens, I can literally just
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pick them up regardless what the ramifications are to me
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and my body and move them. And at the end of
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the day, they are scared to do most things without me. These
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adults, these, these old people think that they are
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allowed to make decisions for themselves and that they have this like
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misguided perception that they are fully functional
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adults. Who can give their passwords away to strangers on the internet.
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And that is a different experience. So anybody who tells you
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that raising kids is the hardest thing you'll ever do has clearly not been a
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full-time caretaker for their sassy, irreverent parents who have
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all of these thoughts in their brains about what they
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should and shouldn't do with their lives and like what they should be
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allowed to do with their time and money and whatever. These
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kids don't have money. They can't do anything without me.
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These old people have money and they make bad decisions with it.
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Anyway, so that's where we are. And if you have been a caretaker,
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if you are a caretaker, if you've experienced any of this, I would love to
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hear your stories too, because I know this is far more common than I think
25:04
we talk about. And yeah, the sandwich generation is
25:07
not for the faint of heart. This is the wildest
25:11
timeline yet, and I've had some pretty wild timelines. And now
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we'll go to Allison, who has
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this week's Small Talk. We have a question from Nada.
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I raised my rates up 40% last month and every single client said
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yes without blinking. Now I'm angry instead of
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excited. What do I do with that? You're angry
25:34
instead of excited? I'm just trying to process
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through why that would be the case. Is it
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because you felt like you were undercharging before and you didn't realize it, and now
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you could have been making that the whole time? I guess that's a
25:48
valid thing to feel, but if you didn't know that you could
25:52
charge more, or you weren't in a situation where you had to
25:56
charge more— everybody's financial situation has changed a ton in the
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last year, especially the last 6 months, but Definitely the last year.
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And so there's a world where the kind of
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intense need to raise your rates has become a thing more
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so in the last couple of months. Or maybe you
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changed your services. Maybe you added things that are of higher value that
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people need to pay more money for. I don't know, but you didn't do anything
26:23
wrong and your clients certainly didn't do anything wrong if they
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paid what you charged them. And also, how awesome is it if every client
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you have was just on board for you
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charging a ton more for what you do. That means you're really good at what
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you do and you have people who think you're worth it. It sounds like maybe
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you're a little bit mad at your former self, and I understand
26:45
that, but I don't think you need to be. You make the best decisions that
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you have available at the time, and sometimes those don't look
26:52
like the decisions that you would have made later. And sometimes you find out that
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maybe that wasn't the best thing, but you didn't have the information to make a
26:58
different one. That's fine. There is somebody who I really
27:02
admire, Arlan Hamilton, and I was talking to her. She is the founder of a
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VC fund and she runs a, a bunch of entrepreneur groups that I've really enjoyed
27:09
being part of. And I was talking to her a couple months ago 'cause I
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was in this place where I just like had to figure out, I had to
27:15
figure out what to do next. I had to figure out where, what the right
27:18
move for business was. I was getting more heavily into consulting. It was
27:22
right around when we were selling the company. I wasn't getting the same kind of
27:26
consulting work that I got before, and it wasn't the same magnitude. And I just
27:29
kept saying, the last time I did consulting, I did this with 2023 and it
27:31
was such a different world. It didn't work like this. This is different and I
27:34
don't know if it's right. And finally, after like maybe the third time
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I said that, she said, why does 2023 matter? That was 3 years ago.
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Drop it. Stop worrying about 2023. What's in front of you in 2026?
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That's what matters. You can use that as a roadmap or as a guideline, but
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we can't make 2023 decisions in 2026. That's not gonna happen.
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Stop worrying about 2023. And that sounds like the same thing. If you were
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undercharging before because you didn't fully realize your worth, now you have,
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and I'm proud of you for that. And you did an amazing thing, and I'm
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so proud of you that all of your clients decided that they wanted to
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stick with you despite the fact that their bill is going to change substantially.
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Good work. Good work for doing good work. Good work for
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figuring out how much you should be charging. Good work for doing the hard thing
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and having the hard conversations about your rates changing. Good for you. You
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did all the things. You have nothing to be mad about. I'm proud of you.
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Thanks for being here, guys. Have a good day. Love you. Me— like,
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I literally have to put cameras in my
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mom's house to check for feet. Like, that's right.
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Like, that's— this is bizarre. This is a weird timeline.