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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Three Martini Lunch.
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  Speaker 2: Grab a stool next to Greg Corumbus of Radio America
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  Speaker 2: and Jim Garritty of National Review.
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  Speaker 1: Free martinis coming up.
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  Speaker 3: So glad you're with us for the Friday edition of
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  Speaker 3: the Three Martini Lunch. Yesterday we looked at the governors
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  Speaker 3: and Senate races in Minnesota. Today we go next door.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go to Wisconsin and specifically the Democratic race for governor.
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  Speaker 3: There's really no drama on the Republican side. Congressman Tom
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  Speaker 3: Tiffany will be the Republican nominee and a far, far,
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  Speaker 3: far better choice than anyone who's going to emerge from
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  Speaker 3: this primary. A lot of drama, a lot of turmoil,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of turnover going on right now. The front runner,
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  Speaker 3: according to the latest Marquette poll, is the socialist, the
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  Speaker 3: avowed socialist, the avowed Democratic Socialist of America candidate Francesca Hong.
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  Speaker 3: We talked about her a couple of weeks ago because
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  Speaker 3: she thought the Packers were a really good example of socialism. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so she's also gone on Hassan Pikers show person mind
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  Speaker 3: you not just by internet connection, and he ran her
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  Speaker 3: through the kind of the litmus test for socialist candidates
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  Speaker 3: and oh she was for everything rapid fire.
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  Speaker 4: Do you support repealing Act ten yes, universal childcare yes,
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  Speaker 4: free school meals yes, Guaranteed pay leave yes, abolishing ice yes,
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  Speaker 4: a one year data center moratorium yes, breaking up a
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  Speaker 4: big ag yes, public grocery stores yes, right to repair yes,
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  Speaker 4: legalizing cannabis yes. Overturning Citizens United yes, a worker's bill
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  Speaker 4: of rights yes, a free Palestine yes. A Scott Walker
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  Speaker 4: statue that people can go to that are made by
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  Speaker 4: local artisans and craftsmen, that people can slap up if
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  Speaker 4: they want to.
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  Speaker 3: Tentatively, yes, that really seems like a high priority Jim.
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  Speaker 3: Later in the conversation, she says, Hey, if we can
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  Speaker 3: get all this stuff rolling in Wisconsin, we can take
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  Speaker 3: it national.
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  Speaker 2: As goes Wisconsin, as goes the country. If we have
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  Speaker 2: this grassroots, community powered campaign taking on the status quo,
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  Speaker 2: the establishment donors and Dems who don't want us to
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  Speaker 2: imagine better, to dream better. If we are the campaign
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  Speaker 2: that will actually go back to our progressive roots in
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  Speaker 2: Wisconsin and build something better. So where socialism was born
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  Speaker 2: in Wisconsin, Unemployment insurance, social security Kindergarten shout out to
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  Speaker 2: Mike I'm going back to some of our history. But
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  Speaker 2: the thing is, if we're able to show the rest
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  Speaker 2: of the country that we can have a different type
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  Speaker 2: of politics in a purple state where working class people
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  Speaker 2: are choosing to have more power and actually have a
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  Speaker 2: government that is going to put them first, that changes
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  Speaker 2: the game for the entire country. So working class people
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  Speaker 2: power means more organizers, more folks coming out for DSA.
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  Speaker 2: I think that everyone needs to be paying attention to
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  Speaker 2: what's going on in Wisconsin because what happens here is
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  Speaker 2: a potential foreshadow of what's to happen in the future.
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  Speaker 3: News flash, Wisconsin Democrats, you can vote for them, but
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  Speaker 3: they are not going to put you first. I can
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  Speaker 3: promise you that, Jim. But that's just the tip of
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  Speaker 3: the iceberg. The other candidates in this race include Mendela Barnes,
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  Speaker 3: who was Tony Ever's lieutenant governor in his first term.
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  Speaker 3: Mendela Barnes ran for Senate against Ron Johnson in twenty
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  Speaker 3: twenty two and lost, so then now his lieutenant governor,
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  Speaker 3: Sarah Rodriguez. She was kind of running third in this race,
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  Speaker 3: but she's now dropped out because of her campaign's mishandling.
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  Speaker 3: Of finance reports. She announced last week that she fired
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  Speaker 3: her campaign manager for inflating how much money the campaign
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  Speaker 3: raised by double counting contributions and for failing to report
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  Speaker 3: certain expenses that had been paid. And Politico says their
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  Speaker 3: opponents seized on the opportunity to criticize her for the incident. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I think they should probably seize on that opportunity to
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  Speaker 3: criticize her. And so then there's this other guy, Milwaukee
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  Speaker 3: County executive. He ran out of money ten days ago,
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  Speaker 3: said you know, we got no path forward in this race.
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  Speaker 3: But when Rodriguez gets out, he jumps back in, has
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  Speaker 3: no support in the polls, and Evers endorses him. So
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  Speaker 3: August eleventh is the primary. Just keep hopping the popcorn,
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  Speaker 3: I guess Greg.
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  Speaker 5: First of all, like this, this is an all time champion.
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  Speaker 5: There's a lot to unpack here in terms of all
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  Speaker 5: the different angles. First of all, as Hasan Piker is
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  Speaker 5: going down through that list of checklists you missed, cloning
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  Speaker 5: Mao and making him the Pan Pacific brand dictator of all,
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  Speaker 5: so we can kill another couple ten million people. Two,
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  Speaker 5: if it was constant progressives, I know you hate Scott Walker,
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  Speaker 5: You really shouldn't.
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  Speaker 1: He's like the nicest human being on the planet.
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  Speaker 5: But lets you know, if you create a bronze statue
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  Speaker 5: of Scott Walker, which I actually kind of like the
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  Speaker 5: idea of him standing with his foot on top of
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  Speaker 5: you know, public sector union, if you want to slap it,
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  Speaker 5: go right ahead. I'm gonna say it's made of bronze.
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  Speaker 5: I haven't seen a lot of statues made of nerf
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  Speaker 5: So you go ahead. If you try to slap the
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  Speaker 5: Scott Walker statue, you're gonna break your hand.
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  Speaker 1: So sure, I'm on board with that. I'll even kick
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  Speaker 1: in for that.
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  Speaker 5: Three Francesca Ha, I know that Capitol one has asked her,
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  Speaker 5: what's in your wallet? And why haven't you paid the
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  Speaker 5: thirty thousand dollars in debt that you owe us. Apparently
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  Speaker 5: she did pay it back with help from a family,
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  Speaker 5: but she's had this debt for more than eighteen years.
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  Speaker 1: Her debt is old enough to vote.
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  Speaker 5: And so I just kind of look at that and
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  Speaker 5: have this sense of, like, she's terrible at managing her
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  Speaker 5: personal finances. Why would you want to put this person
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  Speaker 5: in charge of the finances of the state. For Greg,
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  Speaker 5: I pay attention to like ninety five percent of what
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  Speaker 5: you say, a really high percentage. I've never seen Hassan
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  Speaker 5: Piker interview someone before. And he's touching, he's fiddling, and
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if he needs a fidget spinner. He
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  Speaker 5: wasn't even pretending to pay attention to what Hong was saying.
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  Speaker 5: Now I'm understanding why Hassan Piker is a streamer, and
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  Speaker 5: as someone observed, like he streams in the middle of
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  Speaker 5: the day, his audience probably is not working in the
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  Speaker 5: middle of the day, so I don't know, I might
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  Speaker 5: tell you something about his audience, but like this, this
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  Speaker 5: is why he's not known as an interviewer, because like
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  Speaker 5: he's you know, I've never seen somebody so distracted and
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  Speaker 5: less interested in what the guest is saying.
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  Speaker 1: And then finally on Sarah Rodriguez.
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  Speaker 5: It's kind of fascinating because we've seen these terrible fraud
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  Speaker 5: scandals in places like Minnesota, but a whole bunch of states,
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  Speaker 5: including some Republican run states like Ohio.
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  Speaker 1: They are not great. And you have the.
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  Speaker 5: Response of a lot of Democrats, a lot of bo
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  Speaker 5: talking kats on the left, is you're making too big
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  Speaker 5: a deal out of this. This happens, this is normal,
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  Speaker 5: this is standard. It's very small, it's very minor. Well,
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  Speaker 5: when you really don't react to fraud and grifters, it
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  Speaker 5: tends to get worse. It tends to get much much worse.
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  Speaker 5: And now, Sarah Rodriguez, the fraud is coming from inside
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  Speaker 5: the house. The grifters are on your staff, and all
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  Speaker 5: of a sudden, there's not money there, and everything you've
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  Speaker 5: been told about your finances are false. So finally, one
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  Speaker 5: last point, because I know we got to get through
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  Speaker 5: a lot of stuff here today. But like, Greg, have
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  Speaker 5: you noticed that Democrats seize upon an issue Republican pounce.
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  Speaker 5: They always kind of you know, interesting verb choice there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess.
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  Speaker 5: I guess seizing and pouncing that I don't see a
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  Speaker 5: huge difference, But I guess it's more it's more understandable
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  Speaker 5: and respectable to seize than to pounce, which is some
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  Speaker 5: sort of like you know, mutual of omaha, wild Kingdom
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  Speaker 5: predator that's always coming.
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  Speaker 1: Up to get you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one of my favorite mainstream media tactics. How
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  Speaker 3: dare you Republicans try to make progress or make hay
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  Speaker 3: out of something that Democrats did that was stupid?
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  Speaker 5: That's also, yeah, just because the Democratic candidate has been
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  Speaker 5: secretly dining on endangered species.
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  Speaker 1: You're pouncing on this issue, yes, exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Quick look at the polls. Marquette poll is usually pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: From July eighth to July sixteenth. Hong leads the primary
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  Speaker 3: at twenty six, Mendela Barnes at fifteen, Rodriguez was at eleven.
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  Speaker 3: So we'll see where that goes. But obviously a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people undecided in this race are just simply not
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  Speaker 3: paying attention. In terms of a potential general election matchup.
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  Speaker 3: Tom Tiffany beats Francesca Hong forty three to forty. Barnes
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  Speaker 3: supposedly ahead of Tiffany four forty four to forty, so
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  Speaker 3: both race is close and still quite a few gettable
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  Speaker 3: votes out there if those people actually intend to show up.
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  Speaker 3: It's been quite a week up there, of course, his
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  Speaker 3: back and forth about whether he can arrest Benjamin Netanyahu
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  Speaker 3: if NETNYA who comes to ten in September. He finally
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  Speaker 3: admitted he can't, and then yesterday there is a series
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  Speaker 3: of stabbings, a couple of stabbings in Manhattan. A fifty
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  Speaker 3: one year old man was arrested after allegedly yelling Allahu
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  Speaker 3: akbar in separate attacks in New York City. One victim
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  Speaker 3: was an Asian male, one victim was a Jewish male.
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  Speaker 3: And so we got a bunch of different responses here.
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  Speaker 3: Jessica Tish is the New York City Police Commissioner. She
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  Speaker 3: admits that that's what happened. Nobody's arguing that he didn't
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  Speaker 3: yell at in both attacks. The NYPD is currently evaluating
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  Speaker 3: whether this is a potential hate crime. And then the
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  Speaker 3: curious paragraph, Jim, while the perpetrator has no known mental
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  Speaker 3: health history with the NYPD, the initial investigation suggests that
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  Speaker 3: mental health may have been a factor. There's no link
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  Speaker 3: between the attacker and either of the victims, and so
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  Speaker 3: then of course mayor Mum Donnie jumps on that, says,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's terrible, but he says, he jumps also
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  Speaker 3: on the mental health situation, kind of downplaying the fact
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  Speaker 3: that this is not exactly uncommon if there's a radical
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  Speaker 3: Islamis who wants to hurt people, And then that narrative
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  Speaker 3: goes to the mainstream media. Tom Winter NBC News says,
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  Speaker 3: you know, this guy was arrested in connection with stabbing
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  Speaker 3: an Asian man and a Jewish man in the Upper
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  Speaker 3: West Side yelled what he yelled. The incident will be
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  Speaker 3: looked at as a possible hate crime, and Tisch says,
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  Speaker 3: they believe mental health may have been a factor. So
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  Speaker 3: now that tends to cloud the situation.
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  Speaker 1: So, Jim, we can talk.
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  Speaker 3: About how they're trying to potentially downplay what seems to
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  Speaker 3: be pretty obvious in this story. But it also dawns
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  Speaker 3: on me today that we're exactly seven weeks away forty
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  Speaker 3: nine days away from the twenty fifth anniversary of nine
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  Speaker 3: to eleven. And this guy, this guy is the representative
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  Speaker 3: of New York City on that significant occasion.
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  Speaker 5: So, first of all, I'm always struck by the law
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  Speaker 5: enforcement officials and elected officials reluctance to use the term
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  Speaker 5: hate crime in a circumstance like this. Were you thinking
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  Speaker 5: maybe lover's quarrel? Were you thinking maybe, you know, oh
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  Speaker 5: this was over jealousy, or I'm pretty sure hate was
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  Speaker 5: in there. My first clue that you might hate somebody
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  Speaker 5: is that you're stabbing someone that generally people hate.
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  Speaker 1: Stabbing is not I.
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  Speaker 5: Love you, you know, maybe OJ, But beyond that, that's shit.
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  Speaker 5: So there's that. And also like, well, you know, first
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  Speaker 5: of all, there's multiple causation. This guy could wear very
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  Speaker 5: well be cuckoo for Coco puffs. And I'm sure he
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  Speaker 5: did have mental health. No better help did not sponsor
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  Speaker 5: this particular It's entirely coincidental.
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  Speaker 1: You should still go see a therapist.
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  Speaker 5: But like, here's the thing, Like when he yells alu akbar,
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  Speaker 5: I feel pretty safe coming to conclusion about what was
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  Speaker 5: going through his mind at that time. I gotta have
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  Speaker 5: a feeling this was that. Now, could you say, could
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  Speaker 5: you draw directly a tie between mom Dami saying I
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  Speaker 5: can't arrest and Yahoo, but I wish I could. And
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  Speaker 5: this guy is stabbing, you know, a Jew and an
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  Speaker 5: Asian person. I suppose he's got diversity equiting inclusion in
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  Speaker 5: his victim selection. He wants to he wants a range
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  Speaker 5: of victims who looks like America, So maybe it's not
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  Speaker 5: purely anti Semitism. He might be anti Asian as well.
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  Speaker 5: Either way, this is all a terrible, hateful guy. And
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  Speaker 5: as you mentioned this, we're seven weeks away from this, Greg,
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  Speaker 5: I'm filled with dread. I hate that day every year.
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  Speaker 5: I think you know, every listener who's old enough to
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  Speaker 5: remember it, you know the moment you just hear it,
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  Speaker 5: you start thinking about it, you know where you were,
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  Speaker 5: you remember exactly what happened to you that day. The
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  Speaker 5: emotions all come flooding back. I was talking with someone
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  Speaker 5: just earlier this week where we're discussing having young coworkers,
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  Speaker 5: and you've mentioned some of the interns you've had over there.
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  Speaker 5: One of my coworkers at National Review, wonderful human being
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  Speaker 5: said one point, said yeah, with the topic came up. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I remember hearing about that from my parents, and I
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  Speaker 5: did the math, and I realized this person probably was
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  Speaker 5: in preschool, if not earlier, on nine to eleven. There
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  Speaker 5: are adults walking around with no living memory of nine
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  Speaker 5: to eleven. And we're going to turn into those baby
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  Speaker 5: boomers talking about the jfk assassination. We're going to turn
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  Speaker 5: into that silent generation talking about where we were hearing
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  Speaker 5: about Pearl Harbor. There's going to be this sense that
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  Speaker 5: the younger generation does not grasp its meaning, or it's
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  Speaker 5: just an event on the calendar, it's just a thing
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  Speaker 5: in their history books. I don't know what Mom Dahmi
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  Speaker 5: is going to do on the twenty five year anniversary
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  Speaker 5: of nine to eleven, but I'm filled with dread. I
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  Speaker 5: just have a very hard time believing he's going to
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  Speaker 5: go through that day and everything he says is going
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  Speaker 5: to be appropriate and there's not going to be some little,
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  Speaker 5: some little tweak about, you know, the crimes of America
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  Speaker 5: or understanding the motives of the like. If he gets
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  Speaker 5: through the day, I'll be very impressed. I don't have
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  Speaker 5: very high expectations, and events like these past week are
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  Speaker 5: further evidence for why I have such low expectations of mayor.
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  Speaker 3: Mom Dommy, Yeah, I just want a mayor who thinks
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  Speaker 3: that was a bad day. And I'm not sure we've
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  Speaker 3: got that. So but yeah, every time this guy opens
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  Speaker 3: his mouth, it just gets worse, all right. Well, when
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  Speaker 3: how much I don't like to talk about soccer. You
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  Speaker 3: know what I like to talk about even less than
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  Speaker 3: the sports world, the WNBA. But sometimes events intervene and
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  Speaker 3: you have to address it. And yesterday's column from USA
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  Speaker 3: Today columnist Nancy Armor, who his entire existence at USA
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  Speaker 3: Today is to talk about how sports are awful, and
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  Speaker 3: black people are treated unfairly, and women are treated unfairly,
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  Speaker 3: and LGBT, especially in her mind, are treated unfairly. And
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  Speaker 3: so she's taken on this issue of Caitlin Clark and
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  Speaker 3: the controversy about whether Caitlin Clark is being roughed up
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  Speaker 3: and not getting the calls she should and because everybody
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  Speaker 3: else in the league is jealous of her, maybe because
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  Speaker 3: she's white and straight, but certainly because she's I got
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: a lot of attention. She's also the one who's putting
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: people in the seats in this league. Apparently they don't
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: care that much about that. But yesterday Nancy Armor going
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: off on this weird tangent about how the people defending
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: Caitlyn Clark are essentially being hostile to black women and
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: that's some sort of outgrowth of white supremacy. And so
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: then since the All Star Game for the WNBA is
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: in Chicago this weekend, she says it shouldn't need reminding
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: this country has an awful history of black people being harmed,
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: even killed in the name of defending white women. The
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: WNBA's All Star Game this weekend is in Chicago, Emmett
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: Till's hometown, and a local art gallery is currently hosting
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: an exhibit a magice his life if he hadn't been lynched.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: While it's incumbent on the WNBA to do more to
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: protect its players, there should also be an expectation on
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: Clark to recognize the wider consequences of her actions. Unquote,
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: Armer says that Clark is actually not getting rough treatment
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: or unfair treatment, that she's flopping a lot and not
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: actually deserving the foul college she thinks she should get.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: So Jim, It's quite a stretch, even in today's politics,
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: to go from questioning non calls on the basketball court
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: to comparing people who are wondering if those calls should
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: have been different to lynching m at till.
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: So, first of all, if you're a sports writer, I
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: hope you like your job. You know, I was the
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: sports editor on my college newspaper for one year.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: I loved it.
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: You know, to be to be the world of sports,
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: usually you're covering not just maybe the big name sports
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: or used to you know, people ever that are very
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: popular NFL college football, NBA, Major League baseball, hockey. You know,
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: often you covering stuff that's not as well covered. It's
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: not as big a deal, and you have to generate
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: interest for you know, the local high school team.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Or something like that.
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: There's been a theory going around for a long time
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: that a lot of sports journalists are actually frustrated that
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: they're not covering politics and other events. I don't know
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: if that's the case from his armor, but it certainly
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: certainly does seem that way that when you're dragging America's
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: historical racism into an argument about whether it was a
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: foul or not. It just gets the feeling you'd really
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: like to write about racism, you'd really like to write
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: about current events, and you're a little frustrated that you're
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: covering the sports beat. Now, by the way, can you
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: cover the you know, current events through sports, absolutely, But
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: generally people want to know the down and the score,
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: who's leading my fantasy team. Like somebody wants to describe
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: sports as the toy department of life, and it's generally an.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Escape from all these other problems in life.
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: That are very grim and serious we have to spend
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: a lot of time thinking about. So it's not surprising
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: that a whole bunch of sports sports evans. I don't
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: know if these shut up in dribbles necessarily right approach
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: to this. You know, pro athletes all have the First
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: Amendment rights that everybody else does, but there is kind
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: of a sense of like, oh God, why do you
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: have to drag politics into my sports world. As for
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: the NBA WNBA in general, look you look at the
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: history of the NBA men's basketball, you can look at
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: a whole bunch of figures who have become key in
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: making turning it into the global, huge, multi billion dollar
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: phenomenon that is Doctor j goes there. But I think
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: if you're looking at like probably from the seventies to
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: the eighties, Larry Bird and Magic Johnson and that rivalry
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: between the La Lakers and Boston Celtics was huge, right,
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: And there's an argument that every great one needs his rival.
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: You need this clash of the Titans, you need these
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: two great figures and then go like they got it
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: to a certain level. Michael Jordan comes along. As far
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: as I can tell, Michael Jordan is the first man
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: in history for whom grafvity was optional. Because you watch
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: those highlights, he's going up and he's jumping and it's
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: like he's stepping on something invisible and gets another foot higher,
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: and you could be not into basketball at all, and
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: you're just watching the at marveling at like how is
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: this human being doing this?
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: Caitlin Clark is like the first really huge superstar of
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: the w n b A, Like she has her built
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: in rival in Angel Reece. Angel Revees came out the
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: same year. These could be their Larry Bird and Magic
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: Johnson of the w n B A, and it could
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: turn into this like, oh, look, they're not doing this
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: at all. The general sense is that an enormous number
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: of the players and people associated with the w NBA
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: hate Caitlin Clark and I've never seen.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: This is like, you know, the NBA.
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: If the NBA had come along and said, Michael Jordan's
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: too good, we're gonna try to I mean, the Detroit
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: Pistons tried to foul of every chance they could, right,
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: there were people who who hated Michael Jordan's but by
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: and large, like the NBA of the you know, of
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: the eighties, was like, wow, burd and Johnson, we've got
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: something great here.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: We got to promote this.
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: We know, and it's okay to say, oh I like
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: this guy more than that guy, like this turns into this,
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: like you know, who do you like?
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: It turns into this debate.
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: Jordan comes along and they you know, the tie in
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: with Nike and this recognition of like, we've got a
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: phenomenal player who's going to be bigger than the game.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: As far as I can tell, everybody in the WNBA
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: is like, no, we like what we are. We don't
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: want to get bigger, we don't want to attract new fans.
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: We don't want to attract a demographic that up until
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: now hasn't been that interested in what we have. And
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: it is the most spectacularly self destructive act I can
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: imagine in you know, professional sports are in business, maybe
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: since New Coke.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Or something, right like just this level of like why
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: are you know? So we'll see what happens.
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: But it is fascinating to see the degree to which
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: there is a like somebody like you know, every almost
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: all of the highest attended games in WNBA history of
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: Kaitlyn Clark involved right like you She's she generates her
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: own She is an institution into herself, and she has
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: her own fan base, and her fan base there are
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: people who are fans of her more than they are
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: of her team or of the w NBA. Same thing
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: with Jordan back then, like people would go to seek
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: to see him. The fact that the w NBA is
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: like they really want to kill the golden goose. They
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: really want to kill off the thing that is generating
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: this level of interest in there. And I think a
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: whole bunch of people look at that and say, well,
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: if that's your attitude WNBA to quote Powers.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Booth, will bye, you know, we'll see you, you know.
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: Like you don't want to exist as a larger scale entity,
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: so you can die off from lack of interest if
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: that's the way your attitude towards us.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, great tombstone reference by the way, but anyway, Yeah,
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: it's just absurdity, golden goose, cash cow. They're just destroying
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: their own financial future. They guess I got their their
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: big rays recently. But the fact that Nancy Armor is
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: making that comparison to something Hainus from the nineteen sixties is.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Just brutal, just on.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: And she had some sort of corrective statement saying she
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: shouldn't have done that, but she stood by the general
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: idea that this is really really really dangerous for black
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: women to defend Caitlin Clark a.
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: Non persuasive apology, but somebody pointed out at least she
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: recognized there was controversy about it. We've heard nothing from
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: anybody else at USA today, which was not seen as
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: one of the crazy newspapers. And I kind of wonder
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: if it is the hot takization of the modern media
• 23:05
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• 23:08
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  Speaker 3: three m l all right, Jim. Earlier this week, we
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: were really happy that the Treasury saved about one hundred
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: million dollars in tracking down payments that we're going to
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: dead people and stopping.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Those got a lot of work to do.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: A new story over at Just the News, as a
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: government watchdog group's new report on federal spending found that
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: it's unclear where hundreds of billions of grant dollars go
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  Speaker 3: once they reached the states. The Project on Government Oversight
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  Speaker 3: downloaded and analyzed data from USA spending dot gov that
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: the nonprofit group says in a report released on Tuesday
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: shows more than seventy four percent that's seven hundred and
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: twelve point six billion out of one hundred and fifty
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: eight point six billion and domestic grand spending from fiscal
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty four that couldn't be tracked to the local level.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: The Trump administration confirmed with Just the News that the
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: lack of accountability shown in the report's findings is why
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: new rules have been proposed for federal grant. Making one
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: other quick note here, The report found that just zero
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: point two percent of MEDICAIDS six hundred and fourteen billion
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: dollars distributed federal funds could be tracked to the local level,
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: as well as zero point one percent of the nineteen
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: point four billion spent through the Children's Health Insurance program.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: And the list goes on and on. So, Jim, I mean,
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: talk about absolutely unacceptable, and yet this barely makes a
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: blip in the news.
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: Well, I was going to say, you know, you could
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: see various state governments saying, hey, we can track a
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: quarter of it. You know, I generally think of myself
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: as a federalist. I believe that the government closest to
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: the people generally does the best job, is most responsive.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: For a long time, folks on the right made the
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  Speaker 5: argument about block rants, the idea that the federal government
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: should not be sending money with a lot of strings
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: attached and try to micromanage these things. Give them to
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: the states and the states will handle it better. And
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: that's generally true. But at the back of my mind,
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: I'm thinking, you know, I live in northern Virginia as
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: you do, Greg, and I see drivers from Maryland and
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry. If you're listening from Maryland, you're a wonderful listener,
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: But like dear Maryland, your drivers are crazy. And so
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: the question is, how do we know that every state
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: government is going to use that money wisely and effectively
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: and get good results from it? And now we know
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: we really can't. We saw the issue in Minnesota, We're
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: seeing these issues in other states.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: It's kind of frustrating.
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: And so does this mean that all seventy four percent
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: is all going down some rat hole and being wasted.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: No, No, it just means they aren't.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: Keeping good records about where that money is going and
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: how is it being used, which should raise our suspicions.
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: That's very bad. There's ways about it that's good. That's
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: taxpayer money. You have to keep track of that stuff.
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: And so yes, a lot of work to do. But
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: there is always the occasional, like it is a side
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: effect of those of us are in federalism, we have
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: to ratchet up our watching of state governments and local
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: governments and how they're spending that money. And I think
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: it's very clear to say we've not been watching state
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: governments the way we ought to.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: No. I think that's the case, and I think obviously
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: some states are probably better than others at this stuff.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: But when that percentage seventy four percent can't be specifically
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: identified as to where exactly it went, that's not good.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: So either reform the system or do something to give
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: taxpayers confidence that their money's not just being completely flushed.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: Jim on that lovely note, have a great weekend and
• 27:29
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