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Wired To Hunt Podcast #205: 2018 Iowa Shed Camp Exploits, 2017 Success Stories, and Sasquatch · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for
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  Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,
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  Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm
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  Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan. This episode number two oh five,
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  Speaker 1: and today in the show we are podcasting from Iowa
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  Speaker 1: and our two thousand eighteen shed camp, and in this
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  Speaker 1: one we recap the highlights of our epic shed hunting weekend,
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  Speaker 1: We hear about a few of the crews two thousand
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  Speaker 1: seventeen hunting seasons, and we laugh a lot. All right, folks,
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  Speaker 1: welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought to you
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  Speaker 1: by sit gear, and as I just mentioned, today's podcast
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  Speaker 1: was recorded from our two thousand eighteen Iowa shed camp
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  Speaker 1: this past weekend. And joining me in are my hunting
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  Speaker 1: buddies Peter Lynch and Ross Houseman, who you've heard on
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  Speaker 1: the podcast before and on my good Pale and founder
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  Speaker 1: of hunter a Maps Ben Harshine. But before we get
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  Speaker 1: to the contents of this week's episode, I want to
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  Speaker 1: drop a quick announcement here. If you're listening to this
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  Speaker 1: right around the times podcast launched um, I've got some
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  Speaker 1: quick news to share. This Saturday, March seventeen, two thousand eighteen.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be recording a live podcast at the Ohio
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  Speaker 1: Deer and Turkey Expo in Columbus, Ohio from three to
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  Speaker 1: five pm at the Sick Gear Booth. So that's this Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: March two, eighteen, at the Ohio Deer and Turkey Expo
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  Speaker 1: at the Sick of Gear Booth. And the plan is
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  Speaker 1: to have a panel of guests for that podcast, including
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  Speaker 1: guys like Adam Hayes, Ben Rising, Johnny Eberheart, and probably
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  Speaker 1: a few more. And we're gonna have free beer. You
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  Speaker 1: heard that right. We're gonna free beer. We're gonna have
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of giveaways for some awesome sick of gear. Um,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna have time for some Q and A. And
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  Speaker 1: it's just gonna be a really good good time. So
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  Speaker 1: be there if you can. Guess said three to five
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  Speaker 1: pm at the sit Ka Gear Booth. That's March seventeen,
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  Speaker 1: two thousand eighteen. Um, and this is in Columbus, Ohio.
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  Speaker 1: And if that's not enough, the party is going to
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  Speaker 1: continue after that at the back Country Hunters and Anglers
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  Speaker 1: Pint Night happening that night at Wolf's Ridge Brewing, which
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  Speaker 1: is also in Columbus, Ohio, and that's gonna be from
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  Speaker 1: six to ten pm. And there, you know, we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: have a bunch of fellow hunters and anglers getting together
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  Speaker 1: for a good time. There's gonna be some raffles I
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  Speaker 1: hear for more Sitka gear, some auctions, maybe even some
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  Speaker 1: more free swag, and you know, the chance to get
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  Speaker 1: some good beer and good food and talk hunting with
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of buddies myself, some of my friends from
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  Speaker 1: Sick Gear, and who knows what else. I just know
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a really good time. So again, it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a blast, and I hope to see you
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  Speaker 1: all there. And now for this podcast itself, As I
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  Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, this is just a really really fun podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Um it's more or less just a big BS session.
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  Speaker 1: But man, did we have a blast. We talked through
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  Speaker 1: the shed hunting weekend, We told a lot of funny stories,
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  Speaker 1: and then we moved into the two thousand seventeen hunting
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  Speaker 1: season for each of these guys too, so we dissect
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  Speaker 1: some of their successes, we discussed some of the mistakes.
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  Speaker 1: We dive down all sorts of weird rabbit holes too.
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  Speaker 1: So if you're in a mood for a good laugh
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  Speaker 1: and some hunting camp vibes. I think you're really gonna
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  Speaker 1: enjoy this one, so let's pause briefly for our Sitka
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  Speaker 1: gear story of the day, and then we'll get right
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  Speaker 1: into the main event. I hope you guys enjoyed this
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  Speaker 1: one as much as we did recording it, because man,
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  Speaker 1: it was an absolute blast. For this week's sick Of story,
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  Speaker 1: we're joined by Chase Rutherford, who tells us about getting
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  Speaker 1: to tag along on a big horn hunt. Um. It's
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  Speaker 1: a ten day hunt. UM. I was filming Patrick scrogan
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  Speaker 1: Um on his Rocky Mountain big horn hunt Wyoming. Patrick
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  Speaker 1: was in the Army and lost his leg in a
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  Speaker 1: helicopter crash, so it was a very tough hunt for him. UM.
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  Speaker 1: But we rode in nine and a half hours into
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  Speaker 1: the coolest terrain UM and the thoroughfare, which is the
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  Speaker 1: most remote, the most remote place in the Lower forty eight.
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  Speaker 1: We had hunted every day for four days and we
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  Speaker 1: ended up seeing some rams. Patrick ended up missing one.
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  Speaker 1: It was an emotional day, but we kept pushing and
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  Speaker 1: on the eighth day we set out at two am
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  Speaker 1: in the morning and headed up straight up this crazy mountainside.
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  Speaker 1: Our horses were slipping and it was crazy with the
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  Speaker 1: possibilities of dying. Um. We finally got to the top
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  Speaker 1: and just as the light hit the top of the mountain,
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  Speaker 1: the ram showed itself and that's when Patrick got off
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  Speaker 1: the horse and we were able to crawl up and
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  Speaker 1: he made a three fifty yards shot. Um. It was
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  Speaker 1: really emotional seeing Patrick accomplished this hunt. It's something I'll
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  Speaker 1: never forget. On Chase his hunt, he was wearing sick
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  Speaker 1: as jet stream jacket. If you'd like to create the
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  Speaker 1: sickest story of your own, or to learn more about
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  Speaker 1: Sitky's technical hunting apparel, visit sitky gear dot com. What
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  Speaker 1: are we gonna talk about? I assume we would talk
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  Speaker 1: about what we've just been doing. Just chiropractic chiropractic best practices. Right,
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  Speaker 1: does your tracker try call on emotion? Some things? Just
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  Speaker 1: sat still time because there was a startin amount of
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  Speaker 1: time and we were not walking because I did find anything.
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  Speaker 1: We sat down by the creek map. Yeah, yeah, that
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  Speaker 1: would be pretty slick. Yeah, we're walking a whole time. Well,
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  Speaker 1: according to this, you guys are sitting in your ass
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  Speaker 1: A few minutes in a time, so we're recording podcast. Now.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired hun podcast, brought to you by
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  Speaker 1: Sitka Gear. And what we're talking about is the Iowa
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  Speaker 1: Shed Camp of two thousand eighteen for shed rally. We're
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  Speaker 1: down here and an unknown region of Iowa, and we've
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  Speaker 1: got Ross Hassman, Haman Hassman. Ross Hassa is here when
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  Speaker 1: we do this every time, we have Peter Lynch, he's
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  Speaker 1: a chiropractor number two. Chiropractor number one was Ross Hassman, Peter,
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  Speaker 1: and that's not all of them. And yeah, we lost Corky, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: we lost Corky. And then we also have been Harshein,
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  Speaker 1: who was a chiropractic recipient. Yeah, that was like my
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  Speaker 1: tip for hosting. You want do you want to describe
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  Speaker 1: what just happened here? So obviously in the presence of
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  Speaker 1: some fine chiropractors here, and I've just been thinking all day, man,
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  Speaker 1: I gotta get adjusted again. And when you know, come
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  Speaker 1: in here and I feel great. I think my cold
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  Speaker 1: is gone because of you. Well, he's like, and I
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  Speaker 1: literally just scheduled, right, I just scheduled my first So
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  Speaker 1: there we go. I want to give you guys a chance.
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  Speaker 1: Do either one of you want to promote your chiropractic
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  Speaker 1: practices to the fellow Iowa residence. This is your one
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  Speaker 1: and only chance. Oh yeah, why not. This is the
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  Speaker 1: biggest podcast in the world, So we'll do uh to
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  Speaker 1: Gaywa try State's chiropractic Dr. Peter Lynch, All right there,
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  Speaker 1: thanks mart Yeah. Ross, He's like, nope, come on, he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't want to. He doesn't want Peo to look him
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  Speaker 1: up from wre he haunts exactly. Thank you, Peter. Too
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  Speaker 1: much info. So we're down here in Iowa shed hunting.
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  Speaker 1: It's shed Rally, and Ben, the founder of Untera and
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  Speaker 1: a white Tail Properties land specialists as well, was so
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  Speaker 1: very very kind to hostess on his property. Extremely grateful.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. That was pretty incredible guys for coming down,
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for letting us come down. Yeah, so we spent
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  Speaker 1: the day shed hunting. We did a lot of walking,
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  Speaker 1: it was It was a fun day. So I thought,
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  Speaker 1: I thought, since some of us are still here together,
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  Speaker 1: we could drink some beer and coffee and talk about
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  Speaker 1: the day, talk about shed rally, talk about the shed hunting,
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  Speaker 1: and then maybe catch up a little bit on However,
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  Speaker 1: when Seasons went to saince. None of you guys have
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  Speaker 1: been on the podcast. You've all been on the podcast before,
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  Speaker 1: but none of you have been on since this last season,
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  Speaker 1: so no one knows what happened. So Ben, do you
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  Speaker 1: want to talk a little bit about We've talked about
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  Speaker 1: shed Rally a little bit, but um what what what
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  Speaker 1: was the gist some people may not have followed today?
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  Speaker 1: You know, shed Rally is the um the world's largest
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  Speaker 1: shed hunt where anybody that wants to go on a
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  Speaker 1: scavenger hunt and find uh antlers. You know white tails
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  Speaker 1: cast their antlers every winter, UM, and you go in
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  Speaker 1: and look for him. And it doesn't matter if you
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  Speaker 1: know you're a you're a seasoned hunter, or you've got
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  Speaker 1: people that never intend on killing an animal, but they
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  Speaker 1: still want to get out and enjoy mother nature. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we've had we had several people with us
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  Speaker 1: today that they don't ever want to hunt, but they
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  Speaker 1: really enjoyed themselves. So that's what shed Rally is all about.
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  Speaker 1: It's been there was a campaign originally created by white
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  Speaker 1: Tail Properties and uh the idea is to you know,
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  Speaker 1: get get out there, um, you know, enjoy creation and
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  Speaker 1: use uh the hashtag as you're posting on social media,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's you know, Facebook or Instagram, hashtag shed Rally,
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  Speaker 1: all your pictures and it's just it's just a big
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  Speaker 1: event for camaraderie and to celebrate the animal that we
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  Speaker 1: all love, you know. And I guess it's you know,
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  Speaker 1: not even just white tails and mule deer too and
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  Speaker 1: elk and whatnot. And I saw a lot of elk
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  Speaker 1: sheds actually to on social media too, so um, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's what it was all about. And I decided, hey,
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  Speaker 1: why don't um we just get a big party together
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  Speaker 1: and go hit this this new farm that I've access to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, And that was We had a great day.
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  Speaker 1: Started a little slow, right, I was worried. Uh, yesterday
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  Speaker 1: we were walking somewhere and the three of me, Ross,
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  Speaker 1: Peter and Corey and Adam was with us. At one point,
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  Speaker 1: Kendalls with us for a little bit, and um, we
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  Speaker 1: didn't find a single thing. So we started worrying, if
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  Speaker 1: this doesn't go any better, we're gonna have to call
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  Speaker 1: this friend rally instead of shed Rally and just give
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  Speaker 1: me a bunch of pictures of his high fiving and
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  Speaker 1: huggang and this is a good time. Having friends. But luckily,
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  Speaker 1: uh luckily some sheds got involved today too. So how
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  Speaker 1: there's a little big group of us. There was there's twelve, right, twelve,
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  Speaker 1: I think there was twelve, Yeah, including Jack. He was
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  Speaker 1: the youngest one, my boy, he was two years older
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  Speaker 1: than his first shed hunt. So um, we we had
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  Speaker 1: a great tribe. You guys came down and and uh
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  Speaker 1: um Dan you know, Damn Zari brought Sarah. Um he
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  Speaker 1: bailed on us for the podcast. Yeah. Man, that guy's busy,
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  Speaker 1: he is. He's kind of a big deal. Yeah, he's
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  Speaker 1: at he big leagued us, you know, big league us.
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  Speaker 1: But no, we uh um. We started the day off.
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  Speaker 1: We all got together and we rallied up on top
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  Speaker 1: of this big this big ridge. So we're hunting. Basically,
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  Speaker 1: this farm lays out as a it's a it's a
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  Speaker 1: big farm, but there's a lot of farm, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of corn, there's a lot of tillable ground on it.
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  Speaker 1: So we got up on top of this ridge today
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  Speaker 1: is on the cornfield, and rallied and had some doughnuts
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  Speaker 1: and laid the map out and made a game plan,
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  Speaker 1: kind of zoned it out. I think we had three teams, right,
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  Speaker 1: three teams. We all scattered out and uh um, we didn't.
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  Speaker 1: We covered some pretty good ground until we found that
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  Speaker 1: first one, which was you you broke the ice and
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  Speaker 1: then soon after Ryan matched it up. Yes, we we
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  Speaker 1: walked a lot of good looking stuff. We walked that
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  Speaker 1: big ridge top down, then we went to the bottom,
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  Speaker 1: walked a bunch of grassy terraces and buffer strips, and
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  Speaker 1: I kept thinking, man, we were seeing a lot of
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  Speaker 1: signed there was we were all over edge, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we were just walking all kinds of sick stuff. Where
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  Speaker 1: it transitions from you know, your classic timber, then you've
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  Speaker 1: got a bunch of regrowth and grasses, and then you've
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  Speaker 1: got your your crop fields and and a lot of
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  Speaker 1: times those deers they're browsing overnight, going in the field
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  Speaker 1: for a little while and eat and then go and
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  Speaker 1: lay down in those buffer strips and come back in
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of times that's where you find your sheds. Right,
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  Speaker 1: We come around a good bit of that today until
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  Speaker 1: we found their first one. So that that first one
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  Speaker 1: was that was the icebreaker though, Yeah, we I was.
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  Speaker 1: We you know, when you when you when you've got
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  Speaker 1: such a big group, lots of times we have to
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  Speaker 1: kind of planet out. Okay, you take this line, you
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  Speaker 1: take that line, you take that line. Otherwise it just
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  Speaker 1: be a mess of people scrambling around. So you had
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  Speaker 1: jack on your back, so you kind of took the
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  Speaker 1: top of the field, and so my line was I
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  Speaker 1: was gonna walk just inside or just outside the edge
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  Speaker 1: of all these points that were coming out. Just it
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  Speaker 1: was almost if you took your fingers and stuck four
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  Speaker 1: fingers out um parallel, that's kind of what this field
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  Speaker 1: and finger structure looked like. So I was walking all
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  Speaker 1: the edges, and I don't know the third or fourth one.
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  Speaker 1: At the very end of the finger of corn, there
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  Speaker 1: was a little strip of grass before you dropped down
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  Speaker 1: to the timber and sitting right there times up with
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  Speaker 1: that beautiful crown, nice fresh four point side. Excuse me.
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  Speaker 1: Not long after that, moments almost you could hear Ryan
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  Speaker 1: making some noise down in the timber, and so I
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  Speaker 1: started heading that direction to see what was going on,
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  Speaker 1: and he found a shed. So I walked down there
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  Speaker 1: and maybe it was a hundred yards down the point,
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  Speaker 1: and um he pulled out this little ditch the other side.
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  Speaker 1: So within a couple of minutes we found both sides
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  Speaker 1: right there, not a hundred parts apart. Yeah, right before
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  Speaker 1: and right before then we had it into lunch. On
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  Speaker 1: on a high note, right, we all rallied rally back
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  Speaker 1: together for lunch. We had a good spread and uh,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for also for the food for your wife
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  Speaker 1: and you bringing all that. She just enjoys doing that.
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  Speaker 1: She loves hosting people and making people feel good, you know.
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  Speaker 1: So she did a good job. Yeah, thank you. Dan's
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  Speaker 1: wife found one too, Yeah. Yeah, so Sarah found the
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  Speaker 1: other one on the field edge. So that was three
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  Speaker 1: we had before lunch. Before lunch we all got back together.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of acreage. What do we cover in that? We
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  Speaker 1: covered a lot. I think we walked. I had I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't walking as much as I know Mark was. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I think I had three miles on the mobile map
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  Speaker 1: around lunchtime, about about three miles and you guys might
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  Speaker 1: have covered covered more two point six according to that
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  Speaker 1: feature on your do you want to describe? That's kind
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  Speaker 1: of cool? That was actually cool. Yeah, so uh we're
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  Speaker 1: talking about the hunterra mobile map. Um, it's the hunt
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  Speaker 1: Terror that you've you know a lot of people know of,
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: is the the terror images the aerial photography and the
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  Speaker 1: three D terrain model that we put together so you
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  Speaker 1: can see all the natural rises and falls in the
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  Speaker 1: terrain of your ground. We translate that from the printed
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  Speaker 1: map into the mobile map, and it's an applications. It's
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  Speaker 1: a third party application you load into there. But one
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  Speaker 1: of the features is has GPS tracking, so it's simply
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  Speaker 1: tracks where you walk and you can tell you, um
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  Speaker 1: it's really precise, but it also tells you the distance too,
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  Speaker 1: So that's just it's a phenomenal tool. We we all
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  Speaker 1: were running it in our crew today, so we got
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  Speaker 1: to see where we covered and where we didn't. And
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  Speaker 1: I mean that can be great for shed hunting, but
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  Speaker 1: that can also be good for you know, if you're
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  Speaker 1: tracking a deer too, you know. So you've always like
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  Speaker 1: I've heard you talk about that and say that I
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  Speaker 1: never used that feature of it before, or I never
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  Speaker 1: really realized the utility of it until today. And what
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  Speaker 1: I could actually look and see where we really walked.
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  Speaker 1: That was that that was really cool visualize that to
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  Speaker 1: really see that representation. Um, I really like this, So
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  Speaker 1: I think from from now whenever I should, Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: thought that was It's a great way to just know
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  Speaker 1: what you covered, where you went, see how far you went.
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  Speaker 1: We always talk. I bet you we walked five miles,
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  Speaker 1: but we walked time mountain and now we can see exactly. Um,
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  Speaker 1: that was cool. And now I was you know, you
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  Speaker 1: can drop pins too, so I was marking where you
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  Speaker 1: know some of these big hubscrapes were, and some good signs,
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  Speaker 1: some good crossings and whatnot. Still trying to learn the
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  Speaker 1: farm because we don't know too much about it to
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  Speaker 1: be honest with you. So that's what was fun today
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  Speaker 1: because you know, we didn't find a lot of ships
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  Speaker 1: in the beginning, but we're able to get you information.
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  Speaker 1: But you appreciate down the road absolutely. Yeah, you guys
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  Speaker 1: all came to me some man, you gotta check this
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  Speaker 1: one spot out. Big beds here and this is why
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  Speaker 1: I think he's been here. Rubs, scrapes, stamps, locations. It's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it's all about. Right, we're all getting together
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  Speaker 1: and just you know, sharing each other's wisdom. And uh,
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  Speaker 1: we had the hell of the time today we did.
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  Speaker 1: I should have sent you the Peter sent me a
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  Speaker 1: video of Corey explaining giving us scouting tips. They're talking
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  Speaker 1: through what were you guys describing just the rubs. How
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  Speaker 1: about the rub that was awesome? Corey just he's pretty
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  Speaker 1: what he thinks it's like a buck and uh we
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  Speaker 1: found these who's Corey by the way, Corky, Coco quirky.
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  Speaker 1: There was the rubs in a ditch and it made
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  Speaker 1: no sense. Why the deer will go down? It was
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  Speaker 1: down in like a steep, skinny ditch, like in between
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  Speaker 1: these two beds right here. You know that this pow,
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  Speaker 1: this this cluster of from and then another you could
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  Speaker 1: walk around on the grass and didn't make any sense.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Why so I'll let you finish the story what Corey said, Oh, well, yeah,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: he was he basically, you know, his his thoughts were, um,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: this deer's uh, you know, he's he's uh, you know,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: there's some probably some doze out in the crop fields
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: and and one of them, maybe a couple of them,
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: are are getting ready to come and keep it. They're
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: not quite ready, and he's getting worked out. It's probably
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: like early twenties or early twenties of October over these shore.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: The deer is tarting to yeah, and they're starting to rub,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: you know, and get get fired up for the rut
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: to come up, and he's just he's already got the
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: testosterone going through him. And this, you know Corey described
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: this buck is probably one that you know, it's probably
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: pretty aggressive and and is is I'm just gonna drop
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: right down into here right now, you know, not not
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: leave this situation. I'll just drop right into this ditch
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: and rub the nearest trees, you know. And he's like
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: he's frustrated, like I'm ready to go, and the ladies are. Yeah,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: so I'm just gonna hang in this corner right here
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: on the point of that there yea for no good reason.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: And there were old rubs there too. Yeah, really that
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: was pretty remarkable. I've never seen a lot of big
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: rubs on this farm. Yeah, I noticed some big I
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: should have taken more pictures of him. There was a
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: tree I saw, a big old cedar or something or
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: a white pine if maybe I mean like a basketball
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: diameter tree tore up. Yeah, so there's a there's some
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: bucks in there, but yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: we killed two dandies off of it this past year.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: And uh, what's really cool is big giant bucks. Yeah,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: nice ones for sure. Um uh, not the one I killed,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: but another one of our friends we hosted this year.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: He shot a phenomenal buck on on November seven, I
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: think it was. We called him the flyer Buck and
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: he literally off his G two on his right side,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: had this big whale tail set of flyers coming off,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: and his G two was forked like a tune in
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: fork and just a lot going on on his right side.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Just awesome, dear, and uh so he kills this thing
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: and then we found the sheds to it. We found
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: the sheds which would and we think it wouldn't have
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: been last year, but maybe the year before, so those
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: things were sitting out there for a year. So um,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: super cool. Definitely him him with that big split split
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: flyer coming off, and we're going to surprise him with
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna surprise him with a with a
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: gift and the mail here. Once we can get get
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: the Times glued back together, it's gonna be pretty cool.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: So it's funny. We're in lunch and half the group
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: had to leave, like Dan and Sarah had to leave
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: soon and your wife and son and your your least
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: partner's wife, Ryan the other Ryan had to go. And
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: someone says, well, you know how it goes as soon
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: as we all leave, you guys are gonna get into
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: the sheds when you know it, when you know it.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: So we're Dan and Sara, we're gonna go walk this
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: one area. And they had to leave early, so like, well,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: we're just gonna go over there and we'll walk a
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: little bit nowhere and go. And then the rest of
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: us were talking about going across the road or I
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: don't know, somewhere else. So we all piled into the
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: the four wheeler and the UTV and Peter decided to
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: just strap on right on. Back to mind. Ryan on
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: the I felt like it was eighteen again, right and
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: four whether back in Michigan. And I thought you were
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: gonna say, like you felt your eighteen going to problem again,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: get your arms around them real tight. Yeah, it's not good.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: You know, security gets that a good bonding experience, Robbins racing.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: So we I feel a little bad for Dan. Well
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: do you feel Well, here's what happened. I was physically
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: there and he was telling, right, we're gonna walk this
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: timber right here, okay, and where we were it wasn't
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: really timber, right, true? Right? Yeah? So I think in
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: the end, so Ryan and I just went where he
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: was parked, and we went straight through the corn headed
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: for some it's probably not the best ground the walk,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: you know, like this beautiful prairie grass for the deer
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: going to lay during the middle of the night. Welling,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Sure you didn't, I wondered. They're like, wow, where are
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: they going? Because I did think we were going across
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: the road, and then all of a sudden turned turned
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: down and went towards So let's go check this different
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: style of ground out that we haven't looked at yet.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: We've had success ross and I in a different part
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: of the country hunting that ship, hunting that kind of
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: stuff like he talked about in the past for strips,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: and yeah, that's where we kind of You've got these
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: fields and then you've got these grassy strips, waterways coming
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: down towards the bottoms, towards the big timber draws, and
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: so we go running towards one of those. You're in
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: the four whether we're in the u TV behind you,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: and what happened. Uh, he's pull off a little bit
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: ten feet in and I jump off, I look straight down,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: I go G two. He goes kind of looked at
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: me like, no, go yeah, g two, but sixty eyes.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: It looks like holy explanation. And he's like, I can't believe.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: He said, yeah, like damn, that's a that's a big life. Yeah,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: got some eyes today. So and then within five minutes
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: week he last tried to find the other one. He
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: found a smaller one just underneath the tree at the
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: same time. So they're like dirty yards away. Yeah. Yeah,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: So it was fun. So we go running down and
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: literally it was right where Dan was walking guards. I
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: did feel bad. I looked to the right and here
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: he counters it was on Dan's path, So I took
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: over Corey's job of sniping. I'm sure Dan's gonna mention you. Yeah, probably,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, it's all right. I adjusted him last time,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: so that's true. You adjusted Dan. Yeah, okay, it's just
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: like an initiation, like I'm part of your guys, brother,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: you are part of it. We have a lot to offer.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: My neck feels phenomenal right now, So we did. I
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: had got a good little adjustment there by cross hass
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: as well, and that was that was impressive, just for
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: you know, headaches and shoulder pain. That's not normal. You
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: can get that. Look at you're saying it's not normal
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: all the time, having headaches all the time. Something can
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: be done. The stress of business owner, right, all all
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: adds up into those muscles. Yeah, we're gonna work on that. Yeah,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: it's a work life balance, Mark, you're right. Entrepreneurs, we gather, Yeah,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: keep things figured out, I guess. But so all chass
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: broke up. You found that, which was cool. I went
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: down and kind of did our thing, you know, it
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: couldn't pick it up right away, and all of a sudden,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: then we found Ryan's the other one, and all something
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: we started then once you but the experience centers like, oh,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: we're in a we're in a what are we in? Ross?
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: What kind of spot where we're they're bringing Mike up. Yeah,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: glory glory hole. Yeah yeah, it probably wasn't glory glory hole.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: That could be called that. Yes, that was definitely a
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: glory hole. So Coco. You can see Coco's heads perked up.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: He's like the pace started to quicken. Yeah, you get
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: this like this, it's a shed fomo is what I
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: call it, fear missing out when you know you're in
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: a glory hole of shed glory hall all of a sudden,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: like Okay, where is it? Where is it? You know,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: and so everyone starts walking faster. Everyone nobody takes as
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: much time to take yeah, and people just scatter just
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: it was chaos. Everyone incredible up the hill and you're
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: finding right away, and then somebody found the match to that.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: It was funny because we're all surrounding this shed, you know,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: the first one we found post lunch and it was
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: a dandy. We're all surrounding it like this the first
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: antler we have we've ever seen. We're all likes taking
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: pictures of it close and it's like a few autographs
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: went out even yeah, yea, some chest bumps, you know.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: And the next thing, you know, we look up and
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: there's another one, and then there's another one, and then
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: we're like, yeah, that geez, that that's only a you know,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: move on to the next one. And Corky took off running.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: She was getting all excited. And then what happened next, Peter, Well,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: then since I found a nice shed, I'm like, well,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: you know, we're all here to find, so I'm gonna
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: go up on the top of the hill and I like,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: I'll just take a second or two and I'll just
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: glass the field edge because we're in a hot spot
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: and nobody likes the corn anyway, so glass and I'm
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: glassing like thirty yards off Corey's left hand side into
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: the like the shorter walked past it though, So yeah,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: it kind of was. I'm like, I'm like in my mind,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, when you're an HD binoculars, everything
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: looks huge. I'm like, oh, shut and you can see
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Corey's like, you know, it was so close to him.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: I felt bad for a second and for once, Yeah,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: it ran up there and it was pretty nice. I
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: was like on top of the world. That was a nice,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: really nice one. Like if it was NBA jam you
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: would be yeah, he's heating up. Yeah, yeah, is it
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: the shoes? I was Bo Jackson and the tech mobile.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: So you you found the one from the former, then
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Ryan's boy the small one underneath the tree, and then
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: we walked up and so one found another small one.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Did you see the small one? I think yeah, I
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: found a little dinker. You found the small found the
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: match right after that, and he did, and then he
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: just gave it to you, gave it to me, and
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: then Corey did find find gave it up and then
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: not long after that you spotted that big one, and
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: then did they find another little one over there? And
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: this is all in like a but it's interesting is
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: the two studs that we found, well that you found,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: we couldn't match them up, right, So they're out there something, Yeah,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: they're they're they're out there. And then so Dan he's like,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: peace out on you guys here as you look at
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: I thought he might have went back to his car
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: and they had to leave, right, and what do we know?
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: They continued on. They continued to greener pastures man, and
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: they ended up picking up for all nice ones. Yeah.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: That one that Sara found I think is gotta be
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: the most genetically superior one. I mean, no more than
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: three could have been a two year old. And it
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: was a big five points, big frame, Yeah, big four
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: on it. I mean that was that was that was
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: pretty neat seeing uh, good variety. We were walking up
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: from a distance that was ross and yeah, no Ryan
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: was with us, and I thought there was waving seventies around.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: They looked huge from a distance. Yeah, that was awesome.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: They found four good ones and then we all kept
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: looking and me and Ben we found the old ones.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: You found the old flyer one and I found a
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: really nice old ran in the first one you ran
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: into was that was one of the bigger found. I
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: wish it was fresh. I mean it's not fresh for
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: some reason, being old. Felt a little bit yeah sub
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: sub whatever it would have been before. But still I
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: mean probably a six inch side yeah um, but just
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: bleached white. You know, it's a little bit lighter weight
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: after they've been out there for a while. But still
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: awesome to find that. And then not long after that,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: the flyerbuck we find bleached up. He was actually cracked,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: like the flyer was broke off of him. But it
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: was right there. So field edge, I mean, how did
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: you get run over field edge? You have field edge
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: up against the fence basically in some grass right there.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: I don't I mean, must have dragged you know, drug
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: some sort of implement across to to snap it like that.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: But it was all still right there, and the in
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: the fracture was like a puzzle piece, like a carpenter's
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: router or something. You know, we're gonna be able to
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: get that thing back together. So that was just super cool, awesome.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: You know, it's not all the time when you close
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: you know, you kind of you kill a buck and
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: then you find his shed afterwards, right, that's kind of easy.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: That's pretty wild. And then things slowed down for that though,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: when we came back Bactoriality and we found one more yet.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you found that fund that one. Yeah, that's
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: gonna be a nice buck. That was probably I think
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: it's one and a half split G two framed up
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: in split two solid frame yeah, split bro, excuse me
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: a problem? Yeah, way off one? Yeah, one? Not bad?
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: So how many was that? Fifteen total? I think? And
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: all in the last three or four hours of the day, right,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: most of them were in like an hour and a
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: half or hour. Even It's gonna be a few more
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: out there, Oh yeah, I think there's definitely still more
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: sheds out there for you guys if Yeah, for sure. Yeah.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: So it was cool to do that, and man, we
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: just just scouting is just this is just such a
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: great time to go out there is all the drab
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: colors of of late winter, um, especially when you get
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: some moisture and there's some mud, you know, and these
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: deer trails just stick out like a sore thumb and
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: you can just get on these things and figure out
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: parts of your property without really affecting it whenever it
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: comes time to hunt. Um, you can do so much
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: homework right now, it's the most critical time from a
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: scouting perspective. Of people have said it before, but today
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: was just a great example. I mean we really covered
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that we would not even think
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: about walking in come hunting season. So do you feel
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: like you learned some stuff today, even you know, combining
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: shed hunting and scouting like you took. You have some
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: takeaways after today's walk and hearing from everyone, Yeah, I
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: mean hunting perspective, absolutely, yeah. I mean this this farm
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: lays out completely different than the other property I hunt
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: and the other ones. You know, it's cattle farm. It's
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: got CRP and the cows are pastured in the timber,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: so it's you've got a different ecosystem. They're basically you know,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: compared to this. Composition of this farm is clad sick
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: brushy draws, creek bottoms, some hardwood ridges and knolls and
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: uh and then a ton of crop ground you know,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: and it's completely different. So, um, something I really keyed
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: in on was where a lot of the you know,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: um uh kind of in between these fingers where you'd
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: have I don't want to say a transition area, but
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: you can kind of tell there's a main trail coming
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: out of the cover, and a lot of times you'll
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: find before they hit into the wide open field, there
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: will be maybe be a grass patch. They're just kind
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: of an open area or where that edge is is
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: feathered into. You know, it's not quite pure timber, but
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: it's it's still a little bit of cover and just
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: as they're coming out and there's almost always a scrape there,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: you know, And that's that's pretty cool to remember down
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: the road to be able to maybe set some cameras
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: and what lot too. And I picked out a great
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: treat to observe observation. Stand um with that with Corey
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: when we were heading towards you to go, when you
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: picked up that that that nice one. Um we passed
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: a cottonwood, that would just be awesome. It'll be honest, Uh,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: anything south or west, but I basically can see that
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: whole face that we walked this morning, our team that
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: we walked. You know, let's a lot of ground and uh,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: I'll have to get up high, but man, what a
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: great tree I found right there. And I can hopefully
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: use that to learn you know, early in the in
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: the season and figure out what bucks are coming up
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: this far will be so good for observation stands like
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: the views you have, especially like this year. If it's
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: all planned and beans like the velvet footage and the
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: velvet scouting, you're gonna be able to do. We'll just
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: be premo. Yes, you could be could be pretty good.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Then you got those white pines just as you enter. Yeah,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: that's that's unique. Pretty little section there, Yeah, I mean
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: pretty random. I saw quite a few. Oh yeah, that
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: was tore up in there. Yeah, that was super thick.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: You can't even walk, did you guys ever walked through
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: that or not? I walked the when we got ahold
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: of that place last year. I walked. It would be
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: on the west end of it where the creek comes together,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: and there's a we found a dead cow in there. Yeah,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: but oh man, what a crossing right there. And it
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: is it's crazy thick. There's some blowdowns, a lot of
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: signpost rubs. It's all yeah, blowdowns, super thick. Yeah, huge
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: signpost rubs in there, and kind to overlook maybe you know,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: it just seems like one of those overlooked areas where
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: you pull your you pull your truck into the property
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: and he's that bunch laying there watching the whole time.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know what a tricky spot man. And it
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: makes so much sense, It makes so much sense a
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: deer which would would would hang there and observe it was.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: It was awesome in there. So what's the deal with
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: this farm? I mean when you picked it up, you
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: got you know, it's a new lease and you came
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: into it. When did you When did you figure out
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: you're gonna be hunt this place? Last year? Um? I
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: think we walked it in I want to say April,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: so you think it was I think it was in April. Yeah,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: excuse me. We got um, we got to walk it
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: right at the tail end before it got crazy thick.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: So we did as much scouting as we could, the
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: two of us on this place, and and um, you know,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: we set cams but it just wasn't enough cameras too
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: to cover what's there. And u um, basically we just
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: wanted to excuse me, used the year to to observe.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: And your first two kills were substantial. Yes, how did
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: your season? How did your first season the new property. Go, Yeah,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: I killed well, right, yeah, man, I was fortunate. I've
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: been I don't want to say snake bit, I've done
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: it to myself, you know, but I've messed up a
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: couple of deer since moving here. One one sixteen, just
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: didn't put good enough shots on him to kill him,
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: and really started to battle, um, some confidence issues, you know.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: So it went back into the drawing board and taught myself,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: tried to reteach myself how to shoot, and I switched
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: to a back tension release, and I think that helped
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: me figure out how to execu just in practice or
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: did you actually use that in the field of hometown unt?
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: I used it in the field as well. Yeah, So
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: I ended up getting a couple of releases and and
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: uh in running them from February. Started shooting in February
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: basically and on through and really got comfortable with first
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: the back tension. We're getting way off from my season,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: but this kind of leads into it, you know. And
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: and um, the back tension was a good way for
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: me to execute a shot and follow through and be
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: comfortable with a surprise and not be okay with that
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: pin just floating on the target, you know. Floating on
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: the target and not have to be one specific spot
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: and then fire, you know. So um once I got
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: through those those demons and and uh uh, basically, you know,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: pick this farm up and and it's always nice to
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: have options. But my other farm just does not hunt
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: well with the north wind. I can only access it
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: from the north. So I needed to find something where
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: I could have better longevity throughout the season to be
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: able to hunt. So we found this property we can
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: access from all sides, and um, I hunted, I hunted. Uh,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: let's see, I hunted late October two sets, two evening sets,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: and then um uh November two would have been my
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: third sit and that's when I went in and and
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: uh uh I went in and hung a stand on
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: a on a spot of the farm where I knew
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: would be a good bottleneck and it was up against
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: some really good cover and we called it the sanctuary, right,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: and it was an area that was timbered and years
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: ago and it's just really really thick, one of the
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: spots that Ryan and I remembered in April, and uh
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: put on a really good rattling sequence there at three
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: o'clock and I was on the phone with my wife,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: and uh, because she was in Italy and I'm I'm
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: talking to her on FaceTime, you know, in the stand
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: in the stand. Yeah, So I rattled and we haven't
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: we didn't talk for like five days because of the
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: time they so she calls me like I have to
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: answer it, you know. So I'm kind of leaning against
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: the tree, just looking at her, you know what We're
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: talking and and uh, and about all five probably five minutes,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more. Here he comes out of
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: the out of the sanction where I could just see
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: his crown and his black cap on his forehead. And
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I remember telling her, oh my god, there
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: here comes a giant. And I just stuffed the phone
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: in my pocket. I don't even know if I hung
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: up her. I just stuffed the phone in my pocket.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: And uh, he came in. He got behind a tree,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: and he was kind of looking you could tell you
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: didn't quite know where I was. So I feel like
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: that rattling sequence brought him. Um. I think when I rattled,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: he was far enough away, or he was out of
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: it enough. Maybe he was just kind of, you know,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: just chilling during the daytime. But he didn't come over
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: right away. So he didn't quite pinpoint me. So when
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: he came around and a couple more grunts, I mean
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: that told him right where to go. And um, I
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: drew on him at about forty and followed him in
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: and just followed his vitols on with the pin and
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: everything just really slowed down. And it goes back to
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: that kind of reteaching myself to be comfortable with, you know,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: at the moment of truth, and just was thankful I
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: put a good shot on him, and uh, I basically
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: watched him go down, but I didn't quite see it,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: you know. I gave him a couple of hours and uh, um,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: gave him a couple of hours, and and uh I
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: went I went back into recovering him with my mom
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: and with Jack and and uh as soon as I
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: shot him, I called Kate back. I said, I'm sorry
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: I hung up on you, but I just put an
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: arrow through a great dear, you know, And and that
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: was just a cool moment. So I imagine that's yeah, yeah,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: but that your biggest ever. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: he's he's just really cool, dear. He's uh, fifteen inches wide,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: pretty tall, mega heavy, you know, just the weight of
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: his aunt antlers in general was um, pretty was the
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: most impressive part. It's a main frame, he'd be a
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: main frame nine. But his his what made him a
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: nine point was a crab cloud four on his left side,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: which is pretty cool, and it just kind of went out,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: was like a classic curved crab cloud, you know. So
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: as an eight he you know, if he was if
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: he didn't have that as an eight point, he would
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: have been really impressive. Right, But threw a couple of
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: kickers and had added more inches, but um, super heavy.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: We walked up on him and it's just like, oh
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: my goodness, how we're going to get this thing out
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: of here? And uh we drug him out and in
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: uh uh the celebration was on. Man, it felt told. Um. So,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: I without any history with him, I think he was
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: probably six plus. He was just a hog, you know.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: It wasn't certainly in his prime. Um. The jaw bone,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: on the other hand, I'm not quite sure. Um you know,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: if like the job bone was looking more like four
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: possibly five, right, But then again, I'm not quite sure
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: how good I am as far as you know, scoring
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: these these things. Looking at a ton of job bones.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: I don't have much history with so I'm gonna say
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: the teeth into um figure out how old he was.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: But he was fully mature and just when I was
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: pretty pumped and put my tag around after, you know,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: after yeah, thank you guys, thank you. Yeah, I would say,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: So that's awesome. And then you mentioned earlier another mega
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: giant buck was killed in the property. A couple of
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: days later. Yeah, a couple of days later, a buddy
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: of ours from Michigan came down and they were hunting
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: kind of you know, off and on throughout the season,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: and and uh, he came down and put an arrow
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: through the flyer buck that we we had pictures with
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: in the summertime. Um, and just a cool like I
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: think I should be. I guess he'd be like a
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: main frame eight, but he had a bunch going on
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: on his two with a flyer and a split and everything. Yeah. Yeah,
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: not a little guy for sure. So another another really
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: big animal, uh weight wise, body wise, so to you know,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: dominant bucks that we killed off that farm. So I
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: mean that who knows, we might be dealing with a
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: bunch of four year olds is coming year, which is
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: still a great problem to have, right Well, yeah, based
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: off of the sheds. We found him. We found sheds
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: from at least five different bucks that should be four
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: year older this year, right, and we know there's probably
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: a lot more, definitely, Yeah, I mean, and that that's
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: not a that's not a representation of the only things
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: that are living on there throughout the year. And this
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: is a great red farm the way it lays out,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: something from the neighborhood could come scooting through here, and
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of bottlenecks in it. So hopefully we
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: can have success. It's coming year. Yeah, that should I found.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: I'm curious to see what that looks like next year.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: But that was real thick thick bags. Yeah, good mass.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: I cannot imagine what life would be like hunting a
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: farm with five four year olds. That sounds amazing, yeah,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, but then again, it's a right. It's all relative.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: It is all relative. I'm by no means uh being
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: jaded by the circumstances of having that right, But that's
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: not I mean, that's um, you know, you could be
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: chasing a couple of three year olds in in Michigan
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: and be having just as much of a unique circumstance,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: you know, So it's a it's all depending one where
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: you're at, what you got, what's going on? Having a
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: good time? Right? Absolutely? So you talked about this big
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: giant flyerbuck. Uh here, Ross, you've got a story related
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: to something like that. You want to tell us about
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: your season, because we we had you on the podcast
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: in fallen. We did that analyzing four successful rout hunts.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: That one podcast where we talked about my killed during
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: the route, we talked about Dan's killed during the route,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: we talked talked about Quirky's Quirky's killed during the rut,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: and we talked about You're killed during the rut that year.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: But we haven't had you on to talk about your
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: seventeen season. Had that go down? It was? It was awesome, awesome,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: yere I actually got a chance to kill a big
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: flyerbuck myself. Um, give us the whole history. The story
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: is this, dear, the whole history, whole thing. Ah. So first,
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: what what'd you name this dear Jim Lee? And where
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: in the world did that come from? Trailer park boys?
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Do so? Um, he's like the trailer park supervisor or whatever.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: He's a drunk. Can I also point out, I'm sorry
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: keep interrupting your story? I love your names for bucks,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: and I really love the fact that you named one
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: of your bucks after one of my friends from grade school.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: I got a buddy that I've noticed as the second
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: grade named Jason Tran. He is not a hunter in
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: any way, shape or form, but he often he follows
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: my stuff because we're buddies, and he'll often leave random
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: comments that make no sense stuff. Yeah, that's how I
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: got to know Jason Tranch. He doesn't know who I am,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: but I always thought he was funny because of the comments,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: and I knew how how good of a friend he
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: was of yours. So I'm like, that's a good name
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: for him. So you look like a Jason Jason Tramps.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: He got a big mega eight point named Jason Trainer
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: hunh Yeah. Yeah, he's He's he's on the He's the
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: one that I want to get next year. Worried no Ross,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: which was awesome for Ross. It wasn't this first time
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: he said this buck or nothing. Yeah. This was the
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: first year that. Yeah, but you know, well that's what
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: that's what I went in the season sane, but you
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: know something, But you were going after him, Yeah, I
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: wanted to history. Yeah, yeah, so sorry, go back to
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: your store of the history. It was. Yeah, it was
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: so like a couple of years prior, I was getting
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: pictures of this buck with super potentially had like all
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: these He's one of those like young bucks with all
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: those like little sticker points and he's got like splits
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, if he get makes it
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: a couple more years, he's going to be a really
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: great buck. And uh, and I don't know he maybe
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: it was maybe it was a huge two year old.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Then he might have been like just an awesome three
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: year old with a lot of potential. I'm not sure. Um.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: But then the next year I started getting pictures um
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: again and uh this year that year he had big
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: split so he had on the left side, he had
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: a big split G two split G three on the
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: right said he had this big inside kicker point. He
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: was just an awesome buck. But he had like but
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: he was probably like hundred thirties frame with all the
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: that junk. Um. So going into the year, I'm like, man,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: that's a nice buck. But I didn't really want to
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: shoot him. I wanted to see him. Yeah, yeah, this
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: is this is last year. Yeah, yeah, two years. So
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: there's this Uh. In the farm, there's this big like
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: primary scrape. All the bucks hit it in October that
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: are in the area. Um And come like mid October
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: to late October, every single buck in that area hits it,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: and a lot of bucks, even the mature bucks, will
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: hit it in daylight, even in the mornings. Um So
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: I went down in there when the conditions were right,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: and I got set up over that scrape, and I
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: got a chance to see him and he came in
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: and actually my my gun instinct when he when he
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: came in he was coming in, I'm like, oh, that's
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: a nice book. But I never even grabbed my bowl.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: And then when he got past me, he was like
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: thirty yards broadside and he's going past I'm like, oh,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: that's Jim Late, And I was like maybe, And then
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: I was like kind of panicking, you know, like maybe
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: I should have grabbed my bowl, but I shouldn't have.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: He he never like he never like got my heart
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: racing or anything, and he shouldn't have because at that
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: time he just wasn't what I wanted to shoot. So
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: um So he walked. And then later on that year
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: I got a chance to see him again and he
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: was he got into like all I've never seen like
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: I've seen dear sparring here, dear sparring. You see it
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: all the time, but never like all out fight. You know.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Oh man, that was incredible. And he was going with
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: the water the buck uh Kevin vander Boom. So it
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: was that. That's what another. Yeah, he's a hundred seventy
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: and is just head yeah, big dog. Yeah. So the
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Firebucks going with it, going at it with this guy.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Whatever happened, don't know, he's I don't know, Yes, I
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: don't know. I wish I knew, um, but yeah, they
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: it was one of those times you sit in the
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: stands a slower than slow and I don't know if
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: it was mid afternoon or when it was kind of
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: mid midash day, and it sounds like two baseball bats
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: just somebody just cracked him together. Whoa you You're just
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: like kind of jumping like what was that? And I'm
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: looking around then you can just see that brown flashing
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: through the timber and holy cow, it was like just
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: two huge bucks going to town. And it's so funny.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: Um because the two sorry about that. My microphone wasn't
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: close enough to him. I'm getting yelled at the mark
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: over here. Now you turn your head. You turn your
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: head too much. The best in four headsets and we'd
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: be fine. We We've already described the fact that wired
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Hunt is not doing very well because I buy Budweiser
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: happy to drink, so you can't expect me to afford
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: for So that was a microphone gesture. I'm leaving. That's
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: all things work in Hollywood, Okay. So so talking to
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: the right here is that good? That's a pretty good
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: farther away, closer, closer, far closer and suddenly not interested. Yeah,
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: whatever whatever you gott Yeah, yeah, blah blah blah um.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: So yeah, um that was it for that year. And
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: then the next year got some pictures of him again,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: except for he didn't have those big splits. He just
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: had big flyer that was split off the left G
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: two and then he had like a nice inside point.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: In this year, he was bigger. He was more like
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: a hundred and fifties inch frame with trash, and I
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: was getting pictures of him. I'll just keep the story
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: short because I can just talk forever and people would
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: be bored with that. So so then, um, I wasn't
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: really getting too many pictures of them as much as
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: last year. But then I had a picture on um,
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: a little food plot, and I got a picture of
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: him coming back into the into the farm that morning,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: and so I was like, um, this was November seven
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: or something like that, seventh, and so I got a
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: picture of him coming into the farms. I'm like, Jeezy's
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: got to be in the area, and chances are he's
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: probably with the dough right now. So it was like
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: a southwest wind. There's a really good doll betting area
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: in the back of the farm off of bluff. Um,
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: I have a stand set up in this tree. That's
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: good for it. Yeah, that's standing in the tree. Yeah.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: And then let me finish in the tree on an
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: inside corner. Um, it's on the inside corner downwind of
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: this betting area. And so years past two, you know,
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: you bucks will cruise the ridge that's right off the
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: stand and cruise obviously that dope betting area. So I've
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: been sitting there for quite a while and then, um,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: it wasn't seen too much to get the occasional like
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: little dink cruising through. And then all of a sudden,
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: I just heard that big, deep guttural grunt. That's just
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: like unmistakable. You just know it's like that. It's a
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: big buck. Can you do that? Because you're pretty good
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: at make grunts. I don't know if I can do
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: it on the spot. Oh really good, So it's serious
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: talent over there. Good. Hey, can you guys vouch for
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: my I did? Why don't you give us? Oh? I
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: will try, I will try. I'm gonna pull the mic
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: away from my mouth here, you're I don't do a bugle.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: I'm just with no just my mouth. The neighbors. O,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: oh my god, that's some serious talent there, man. Okay,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: I can't believe that. How much do you practice at it? Like?
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: What is Kylie saying about that? That's how hots I
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: bring Kylie in a night to the bedroom. Yeah, that's
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: why they had a child. And so that's however came
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: to me. Oh my gosh, okay, your son will hear
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: this podcast and wow? Ye that was great. Yeah, okay,
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: so back to whatever we're talking about. You hear this grunt?
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you hear the ground? Yeah? I heard that
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: grunt down in the bottom, you know, And then I knew, okay,
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: there's a big buck down there. But then I heard
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: like he'd be chasing around, and then I heard some
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: tending grunts, so I knew, okay, now there's there's a
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: big buck with the dot on there. But I just
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: could never get a get a good look at him.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: It was just like flashes in this and that. And
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: then he occasionally um kind of worked his way away
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: for me down the valley, and I could hear him
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: just leaving, and I thought, okay, well, bummer, not going
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: to really see what what that was? Um great and
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: conor anyways, and then as a night went on, it
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: was like that last thirty minutes, like suns starting to set,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: starting to get less light. And then all of a sudden,
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: I hear some footsteps and a look, and here's a
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: doll and she's kind of coming towards me along the
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: thick ridge. And then I heard that grunt again, that
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: big deep grunt, and I watched a little bit longer,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: and then I could see him, just see rat coming
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: through the thick stuff. And I'm gonna interrupt real quick.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: There's nothing better then a deer that's dialed in on
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: his dough. You know what I mean. He's grunting, you know,
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: and you know they're coming and he is just so
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: occupied with her, you know, nothing else in the world
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: matters to him. That's I love that. And then you
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: just pray that that do is gonna come by. Yeah. Absolutely,
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: there's no way you're gonna bring him in, right, you know,
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: it's it's all up to her on which way she goes.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I was in the red that's right there.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I was in the right area.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: But whether they came past the standing that day, it
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: was just depending on where she wanted to take him
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: and he she was. I mean, if anybody's ever seen
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: a buck tending a dough like that, they move painstakingly slow,
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: like it is just slow, and the dough doesn't move much.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: She's just standing there. Most time she'll browse a little bit,
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: she'll lay down, and he'll usually give her some room.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: Um Unlike you know those younger box like we see
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: her in the rut, like you'll see younger bucks, they'll
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: be chasing does all over the place. Well, we don't
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: see that with mature box as much because they're not
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: stupid and they know, like they know not to push
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: the dough around, like if they're on hot dough, leave
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: her alone. You'll you'll breed her when she's ready. Yeah,
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: And uh so he's just he's just sitting there behind her, like,
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: you know, ten yards and they're just moving so slow
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: that it's to the point where it's like, God, I
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: don't know if I'm gonna have enough time. I don't
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: like they're gonna get here, but it's gonna be dark
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: and then and then I'm starting to think, how the
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: heck am I gonna get out of this tree stamp?
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: And and and and is it fair, say Rocks that
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: you are one to worry about stuff? He stays. He
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: stays streme, positive all the time. No, no situation. I was.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: I was. I was calm where calm, cool and collected. Yeah, yeah,
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: you know sometimes you get fired up most times sometimes, Yeah, No,
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: I was, I was. I was good, all right, good,
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know, nice, nice? All right? Sorry, I'm I'm
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: a killer mark you are? And then you get the
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: job done? Well, ever worry I worry about where to sit.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: I don't worry where um perfect trees. Yeah. So so anyways, he's, uh,
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: she's standing there. She cuts across a little trail, there's
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: an opening, but they're just I don't know. They're just
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: out of range for a comfortable shot. And she kind
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: of worked away parallel to me, and then she dropped
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: down into another valley, kind of out of out of sight.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: So I thought, well, based on where she went, and
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: he's gonna follow her, I'm not gonna really get a shot. Um,
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: awesome encounter. That was great. You know, I was just
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: right to end the night, uh, you know, successful hunt,
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: even though I didn't get something. So he followed her,
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: did the same thing when I expected, and he was
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: just the whole time. He's just raking, raking, bra She's
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: rubbing trees. It's just awesome. It's just just a great show.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: And I'm sitting in the tree and all of a sudden,
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: here like a little twig snap right next to me,
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: and that dope pops out. And I looked down and
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: I look at that dough and I look up at
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: him and I'm like, holy sh it, it's gonna happen.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: And I that's what I said. I don't even think
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: I said it in my yes, I did. I looked
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: at him like it's gonna happen, and she was standing there.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: He turned and walked straight to me. He stopped at
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: maybe like twenty yards and at this point he's facing me,
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: so I'm watching him and my eyes are going back
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: and forth and watching him and watching her her, waiting
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: for her to make a step to see if he
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: moves and makes that make takes a turn. Um. So
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: she did take a step, and she actually decided to
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: go back the way she came, and for her to
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: come out where she was there was there's no reason
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: for her to do that, Like it made no sense.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: I don't even know why she did that, but I'm
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: glad she did. And so she made a move to
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: go back, and he like immediately did that spin to
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: go back the way it came. So he wasn't gonna
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: like parallel to me and go broadside. He just spun,
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: And at that time I knew, like, and that's one
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: of those things probably just where experienced, you just know
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: what to do at that time, because most people would
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: have probably just he would have spun and they would
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: have drew, and then they would have never stopped him.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: But I drew. I like, I'm pretty sure I don't
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: even know what happened. It was like a blur, but
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: you you draw and stopped him at the same time,
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: and I stopped just in time where where I could
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: tuck it right behind his shoulder, really really strong, but
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: where I was comfortable and I could make a great shot.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: I hit him right behind the behind the back ribs
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: and that buck went down like less than five seconds.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: He was done, And yeah, that was that was incredible hunt.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: So he talked about him a little little more. I mean,
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: he's got an eight inch flyer. Yah, I think I
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: think it's like a shoot hall On. I think it
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: was seven. It's like seven inches, and then if forks
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: it's it's real thick, kind of webbed, and then forks
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: off it's a great book. He's like nineteen inches wide.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Did he lose a little rack? Didn't he break off
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: some smaller stuff? Yeah he did. He had like a
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: big curly kind of point. He probably would have grossed
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: one seven if he had that. He busted that off,
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: which whatever, But that's another thing about this book. He
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: was kind of like he was up. Well, I saw it,
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: like I mentioned before, I saw him fighting Kevin vander
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: Boom and uh and the other years he was always
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: busted up. So that was one of my fears. Like
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: this year, I was like if I'm gonna kill him,
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: I gotta kill him early because he's gonna be busted
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: up by November. You know. Fortunately this year he just
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: busted off at one point and kept everything else sound intact.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: But but yeah, it was a great hunt. It was awesome.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: That is awesome. The best part was when I when
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: I killed him, I knew he was down right away,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: you know, And I texted you guys in the group
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: text or whatever. You're horrible, but I love doing that
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: to you guys. We and we really really get mad
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: about it. You're the worst because we've got what you
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: leave everybody hanging. Oh yeah, I love doing that. I'm like, oh,
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: I just just shot Jim Lahey, you know. And then
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: they're all like texting back and forth. Picture it didn't happen,
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: because we always say picture it didn't happen, And some
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: of some of the guys like, who's Jim Lahey? And
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: then they're sending pictures. Oh my god, you know is
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: this one because we've been seeing pictures but Dusty. And
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: then I'm texting back, man, guys, I don't know, it's
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: gonna be a long night, you know, and stuff like that.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: And then yeah, you kept him on the hook. Oh no,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: I love doing that. Ross and I were the closer,
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: so I get some off the off the off to
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: the side text, Yeah, like what the hell are you
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: doing to those guys because just wait till tomorrow. I
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: don't say anything like, oh, well, you guys want pictures
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: all the time. And I was by myself and it
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: was dark and I couldn't take decent picture. That's like
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: I always a picture first, though, So I just took
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: a picture of that flyer and I sent into that like,
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: oh buddy, yeah, awesome, that was awesome. That was pretty incredible. Yeah,
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: that was exciting. And then I think, if I remember right,
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: you killed Jim Lahey and then you text us about
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: it that morning, and that was the morning that Further
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: killed his buck. Me and Further were in Ohio. I
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: remember getting the text messages from you in the morning
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: and did kill him the same day. No, I think
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: you killed your buck the night before, but you were
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: telling us about the next morning. That's when you decided
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: to tell people. Yeah, so you were texting us about
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: Jim Lahey and then I am seeing Further's buck come
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: running by me and I'm like, oh, Jesus's bucking. Then
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: that whole thing that was a good a couple of days,
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: it was, it was, it was a good time. Yeah,
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: it was awesome. All right, Let's pause here real quick
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: for a word from our partners at white Tail Properties.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: This week with white Tail Properties, we are joined by
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: Rich ba, a land specialist out of southeastern Iowa, and
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: Rich he's going to be telling us about how he
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: patterned some mature bucks without educating them. What I like
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: to do is, uh figure out where a buck's living.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: And so during the late summer and early fall months,
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: I'll run trail cameras around my farm, probably one for
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: every forti sixty acres and try to figure out where
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: the different mature bucks are living. Um, you really have
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: to keep an eye on that, you know, once October
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: November get here, because they often tend to disperse and
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: and move around a little bit. But but I still
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: use cameras, and I have them in areas where you know,
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to disturb the deer to check them.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: One of the things you know that that's key to
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: me is I just don't pressure deer. In early October,
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: I figure out where they're living, you know, where they
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: feed and then really don't hunt them until the last
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: week of October, one week in November, when I know
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: they're gonna be on there feet before dark and still
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: on their feet after daylight. Otherwise, you know, you risk
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: educating them and making them go nocturnal. If you'd like
• 59:59
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• 1:00:01
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• 1:00:05
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• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: then I had a great little story there. You had
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: a great story there, Peter, what from this season do
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: you want to talk about? From here two thousand seventeen seasons?
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: Is there anything that stood out? We had some great experiences. Yeah.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: As a chiropractor, I were very busy. I'm talking talking
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: deer hunting. No By'm saying yeah, but I don't. I don't. Yeah,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: I don't take off a lot. I don't take off
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: a lot of time. So tell him about the plan
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: for like next year. In that public land spot that
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: we talked about years ago, I hunted the state land
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: spot and I could see this river bottom from where
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: I was, and at about ten o'clock, a just a
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: giant walk through there and I put it my you know,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: put it in your mind, but you just don't think
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: about why he's there at that time in the morning.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: So it was the last one of the last eight
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: agree days, like in the middle of October. S Ross
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: and I went scouted down there for just to walk
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: the property this state land. We bumped a buck that
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: went through the water and to the other side, so
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: we decided to scout a little bit better. Found some
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: early season scrapes and some robs, and I said, I'll
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: just sit up in here, you know, tomorrow or the
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: next weekend, and uh lo and behold kind of rain,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: didn't it. I don't remember. Well. I set up on
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: that deer. We came back in it was like a one,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: so we let him go and um but I wanted
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: to be in a different spot from where I was,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: but when I got in there, it was pitch dark.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: So long story short, set up in a different tree
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: than I wanted to. So I based on that experience
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: years ago, I said, I'm gonna stay a little later
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: because I think stay till like nine through to your ten.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: And I thought maybe something make sure would come down.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: But we didn't know real We didn't know why, I
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: think because it was missed at that time, I go,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: I just had that experiencing, I'm going to test it,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: and it was raining, so I thought they might missing.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: I thought they might freshen up the stuff. Sure enough,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: this monster mass monster came down and just went to
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: the one tree where I wanted to be by, freshened
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: up that scrape, went right back into the tyms on that. Yeah,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: so that's massive if it's an a point or one
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: forty all day, real thick. And then if it was
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: a ten, it was pretty good size, and you know,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: and then um, so that way that that hunt, I
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: took the long wind, and then there's another way and
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: go just straight down a ridge, pair of waiters and
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: be up on it. So I started doing that for
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: the rest of the year, and moved in to where
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: that deer was fresh up that scrape. And then a
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: different boat came in equally as impressive. This one was gosh,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: that frame was one frame, but that thing was yeah, yeah,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: that was beautiful. So he came in kind of like
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: you'd want a deer to come in, and it just
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: was a little too far up. So well, now you
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: know you've got a good spot for next year, because
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: you know why, now you know why the bucks are
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: doing that, you know where to be in October. I
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: think it's a they talked about that primary scrape. I
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: think it might be one, and it's a certain time frame.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: I think I hunted a little bit later and it
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: wasn't as good. So yeah, so that's that. I'd say
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: mid Well, the first weekend was like twenty early and
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: that's when that mass monster came. And then the next
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: weekend I went down there again in that big big
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: eight with a or big nine with a just a
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: huge frame. Yeah. Is that the one that you had
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: a similar situation to me, sort of where you got
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: cough guard. Yeah, if you want to dig a little deeper,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: we can do that, um please. I was watching We
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: used to be able to hunt the private behind that,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: so I was watching this valley and there's always deer
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: and there, so I was kind of scoping, scoping back
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: and it's it's probably quarter to eight, you know, prime time,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: So I'm just watching back there because I did notice
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: during another hunt that a deer did cross the water
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: and it was bucked. So I'm like, I'll just check
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: what's going on. And as I turned around with my
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: binoculars in my hand. That's when that that real nice
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: second buck came through and I was not ready for him.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: So yeah, the shot would have been of my reach
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: for me possibly, but it was just nice to see.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: So well, don't feel bad about getting caught off Guarden.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: Happens happens to many of us in this room, or
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: at least one other person. So, yeah, we were talking
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: about some other stuff the other night, Peter. I don't
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: know if you want to talk about it or not,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: but some of the thoughts around, um, sure, just you know,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: how to get more comfortable in those moments. There's some
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: of the things that you're talking about wanting to work
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: on this coming year. For me, it's got to be
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: at the moment of right there, like Corey talked to
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: me about after because why why at that time where
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: you looking behind you with your binoculars when you those deer,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: where do you reach Anyways? I mean he goes at
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: that time quarter to eight or seven, just as it's
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: a great light, to great light, to whenever my bows
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: in my hand, ready, he goes, They're gonna come in
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: like ghosts in the darkness, you know, and just be ready.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: So have you ever seen that movie? Oh, it's lovely. Yeah,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: that's a good movie. Good movie. You seen that Negative
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: in the Darkness. I can't stay up through any movies,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: even if it's a Rambo at four o'clock in the afternoon,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: this one, I'll check it out. What has we got,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: Val Kilmer. You got Michael Michael not Michael Jackson, Michael Michael,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: not Michael Keaton, not Michael Jordan's Douglas, Michael Douglas. Thank you,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: Michael Douglas. Yeah, which is well Kilmer. And basically this
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: is talking about the man eating lions. It's the man
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: Eaters of Savoy and they're in the Chicago Museum there
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: in the Chicagomy has been natural history and there was
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: this railroad trying to be built through Africa, I don't know,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: and they were stuck at a bridge point trying to
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: get the bridge and these two lions killed I don't
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: remember what the number of an astronomical number of people. Yeah,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: and so the movie talks about this whole situation they
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: had up bringing a professional hunter and to try to
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: kill these man eaters and yeah, it's intense. Check it out.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: So the ghosts in the Darkness are what Peters trying
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: to prepare for yes, Traditionally, I could you imagine sitting
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: in next to a tree with man eating lions walking around?
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: Could you be prepared for that moment? I have enough
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: gunpower at home, that's for sure. My dad was crystal
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: so but so sorry. No, It's been my problem continually
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: each year is the moment of truth, getting that shot,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: or I can get onder all day. I see a
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: lot of deer, so fortunate that way, but moment truth
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: is just not something I've had a lot of practice with.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: So and I think I think that it's it's something
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: that a lot of people struggle or I will wait
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: for that perfect shot. I mean, I think about how
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: many times I've had good sized deer there. And I'm
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: fairly picky too at times. But Mike, that's not I'm
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: not I'm thinking what if Coreya shot with ROSSI shot
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: most likely, but for me, I just didn't feel right.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: So I think Ross alluded to something too, when when
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: you were talking about you have so much experience in
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: these moments. When Jim Lahy started to do that turn,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: You've been through that before, You've seen that before, you knew, okay,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: I need to stop and draw and take that shot
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: right now, and you knew, Yeah, it was a fast moment,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: but you you understood that, you had the time. You
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: were comfortable with that. But to Peter's point, if you
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: hadn't been through that, or if you hadn't you know,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: had been fortunate enough to kill a good number of
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: deer and go through that, it's it's a lot harder
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: to handle those moments of truth. And that's why. And
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: everyone's got to do their own thing. But I do
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: think it is helpful too when you're getting into hunting
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: to kill some does, to kill some younger bucks, to
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: take it in one step of the ladder of time.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: At least that's what worked out for me. Um, But
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: I know you're you're figuring out your own kind of
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: path too. Well. Yere, I did shoot that decent buck
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: up in the same same vicinity I remember winning I
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: go one third year better and I saw it come in,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: never looked at the head again, and unfortunately shot wasn't true. Uh,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: And we I did see the buck the next day
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: he ran off with a arrow window. But so it
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: can work for me. It's just a matter of making
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: it work for me. Can I psychoanalyze you? Please do
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: on the air. So have you ever have you ever
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: thought about changing your what you want to shoot for
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: your for your bow buck for some reason? I want
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: it huge? You want? Yeah, you've been very picky about
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: that and why why is this? There's probably a little
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: bit of anxiety. But making the correct shot helling doesn't
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: come easy to me. I don't think it comes easy
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: for a lot of people, right, but just for me,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: maybe not so much. Uh, maybe there's a little bit
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: of that's my dad's bock m. I never really talked
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: about that before he's passed, and he'll never get a chance.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: I want that bow one to be just pretty special. Yeah,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: maybe that's unrealistic, but yeah, that's cool. So interesting. Now
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: what about doze? Have you age your opinion not a
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: little bit? Do you want to shoot a dough? We
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: talked about this a little bit. You've been reluctant to
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: do that in the past. Um. I think if I
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: get myself more dialed in, it might be something easier.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: I'd have a I picked up at twenty acres and uh,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: I can't really see that tone, but just twenty acres
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: in the outskirts of my town and there's he's an
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: eight year old man. He's like, he doesn't understand this whole.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: It's substance, this shoot this deer for somebsence. He goes, Peter,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: you're gonna get a dough here? So I could see
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: that may be happening. Now that'd be cool. Yeah, that'd
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: be cool. There's nothing better, I guess. I always think
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: there's a buck coming right, so why would I? I
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: was worried that that one the one time you do
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: let the aero fly and shoot that dough, then there's
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: the the big buck walking right behind her. Yeah, October one,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: go out there a first day October two or something.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: I mean mentally, I decided that before I even go hunting. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: I think you're right. That's a that's a decision you
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: gotta make and play for. I'll tell you what, killing
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: heavy duty man, it's a heavy deal. There's times I considered,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: should I just be a camera guy? Hey? You know
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: it's it's not I feel like, boy, this is such
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: a complicated subject. But I mean, in Upper Mischigan I'm from,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: I've shot shovel deer, small four keys and things and
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: it never felt great. But I've done it. Shoot him
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: with a bow, never with a gun and shooting him
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: a close quarters it put an arrow throom is a
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: way more intimate. If that's not I don't even know
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: if that's the right word. I think it way more
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: intimate experience. Then then shooting him with a gun, and uh,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: you know, I think I mean most people that um
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: have any sort of I don't see moral compass. Boy,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: I could be pissing a lot of people off here.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: But killing is is uh something that is a powerful
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: moment and and and it's surely it's it's obviously with you.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: Mark and I talked. I live in the city, so
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: I I shot my dear and I shoot in my
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: back yard. But if my wrist flicks my arrows in
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: the neighbor's yard, I'm looking for him like, well, this
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: isn't good. It's kind of selfish on my point to
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: be doing that. So I don't make it a priority
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: to get to a spot to shoot for you off.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: So I'm only shooting twenty yards in my yard or whenever.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: In reality, if you look at a hunter, I'm responsible
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: for that shot. So if I'm going out there without
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: lost confidence, I just won't take it. Then sure, yeah, yeah,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: And then it's like Oh my gosh, I'm gonna kill
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: this thing. And this is yeah, if it's thirty like
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: that buck that came in Corey Roscoe's shop is thirty
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: five yars is beautiful. I wasn't ready because I wasn't looking.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: But if I would have been ready, but I have
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: still taken a shot, probably not. Yeah yeah. And there's
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: some world class hunters that only take yard shots. Yeah yeah.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: So there's nothing wrong with so, and that's their their decisions.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: So I learned from them. I mean, that's what they do.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: Everyone's got whatever they're comfortable with that. But I have
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: a buddy who was an amazing shot and for Michigan
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: he knocked on down at fifty because he was comfortable
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: because he shoots at a hunter. Yeah, he doesn't do
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: it all the time, but no wind conditions were right
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: boom yeah yeah yeah. So what's the goal for this year, Peter?
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: And we gotta practice more? There you go. But at
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: the end of the two thousand eighteen season, when the
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: season is done and you look back on it, Okay,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: so one goal is that you want to have practiced
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: more of your bow. What other goals do and it
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: could be a kill goal or could be anything else
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: or or what what would be your goals by the
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: end of the season you hope to accomplish. Let's see, well,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: kill deer. I gotta make it just a special for me,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: that's about it. Um. I've got properties where I've got
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: big deer, and I got propertly where I have decent deer.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: So just I seem to have always waited for that
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: big one if it doesn't happen, so it's maybe just
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: get that one thirty on the ground. I got enough
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: of those one t I don't know, Yeah, so is
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: one is one thirty? What feels right? Like that's like
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: for the special? I seem to find a pointers inches
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: inches or a hundred and thirty pointers saying yeah, he's
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: saying yeah. It sounds terrible to put these kind of
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: unrealistic or just to say that it has to be this.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: It could be just anything, but or does it come
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: down to some with something me and Dami guess a
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: few weeks ago, it's like you just have that feeling
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: like that maybe that's it, but maybe that kind of
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: buck for you is what you've found gives you that factor.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: And I think some of this is framed by where
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: you live in Hunt. You live in Hunt in Iowa,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: where there are lots and lots and lots of big
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: deer relative to a lot of other places. I think
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: if you lived in Michigan or you live in Pennsylvania,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: you lived in wherever, and if you hadn't come out
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: here and seen experienced all this a hundred old take
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: for example, when you moved to Iowa. When you first
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: came out here, you were seeing gad and eight pointers
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: and you were thrilled, and the first one twenty I'm like, wow,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: Ross is like settled down. That's right, that's a that's
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: a basket. No, no, no no, I was no. When we
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: first came two year olds like, yeah, yeah, that was
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: that was tough. Everything looks big. Most likely I should
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: just shoot a deer to get it out, anything to
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: get out of the system. Build a confidence. Absolutely, there's
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: a lot of reality to that, and there's a there's
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: that's an admirable, admirable thing man going out there and
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: just taking an apple animal and being happy with it,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: regardless of what anybody else thinks. I mean, that's because
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: muscle literally killed a beautiful buck and shout right through
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: the heart, died within thirty ft where three yards where
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: I shot him and it was great. Yeah. Yeah, And
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: I think I think the gun is less intimate, but
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: it's more it's a competence. Yeah. And I would never
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: want to try to impose on you like and I
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: hope we're not doing that. No, But that's the biggest
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: thing is your values are yours mine or mine? And
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: mine are great and so are yours? Yeah, and so
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: if you if you want to hold out for a
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: special buck, more power to nothing wrong with that at all.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: But you know, but I can but seriously, I can't
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: call myself a hunter. I am a goes out hunting. Well,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: it does not kill, I'm not killer. Maybe, And from
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: a from a purely pragmatic, pragmatic standpoint though, simply from
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: what will help you be more successful as a hunter?
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: Killing more does or taking a first step and killing
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: the first Bucky get a chance they're doing that a
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: few times will help you in the future. And I
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: know you know this we've talked about. I mean, if
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: this isn't rocket science, um, but if there's nothing wrong
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: with choosing not to do that, but it's something to consider.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: Like Ras said, those experiences are what helped prepare you
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: for the moment when you do have that special buck
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: in front of you, because it's a lot harder to
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: do that in the very if, if the very first
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: buck you ever shoot with the bow is a hundred
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: sixty mega giant or something, that's a tough moment to
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: handle the first time. Now I know you've shot. They're
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: dear too, But no, you know we got the story
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: where last I think we shared it last podcast where
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: that one pointer came in and jumped the did everything
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: read the read the script? I shot a gangster style
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: because of how I had to, and my wrist must
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: have flicked at the last What does this wrist flicking
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: thing you keep saying that you do? I do it.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: I used to shoot my condo and I for some
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: reason rist wood flick target panickers could be yeah, I've
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: in your condo. Yeah you hit the wall. Yeah, my
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: wife was not impressed. Yeah. Yeah. There's one time I
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: was shooting in the basement of a place where you're renting, ah,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: and I had the target set up in the air,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: went through the target and it hit the water pipe
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: off beat below the shut off valve to eight units.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, talk about so what does that do
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: you say type two or level two? Usually type two?
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: Is that type two? Far? Yeah? Well, yeah, like it
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: was the most It was a terrible experience at the time,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: but now it's hilarious when I think about it. But
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: uh yeah, water just it was just so much force
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: coming out everywhere. I was filling up coolers and running
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: up to until like a plumber came. I can only
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: imagine what you were I was looking like at that moment.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: Big mistake. So yeah, be careful when you're shooting, because
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: even when you hit the target, still can you should
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: blind bail man? Do you have a blind bail You
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: know what that is? I think there's a podcast The
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: Guy Talk we talked about leave. I'm just at ten
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: yards of five yards and just three yards no, just no,
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: You're not gonna miss. And you shoot with your eyes closed,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: and you get used to the feet release of the arrow,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: and you feel that arrow send and and and you
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: don't you don't react to it. It just goes. And
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: you do that with your eyes closed, and and you
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: build confidence internally, you know. I mean, yeah, I think
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: in some respects I thought about this show. I got
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: maybe I should learn my everything about scouting, hunting. I
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: could relay a lot of stuff when I get in
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: a train. It's a little different than the textbook goes
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: away and you're like, how do you read this? I'm
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: I'm probably a good be on that stuff a lot
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: of other stuff. Hey, but knowing a bow and probably
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: a c I don't you know. I think that's just
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: to me. It's a tool. I go grab it and
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: use it. But how do I know it better? How
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: do I know what these You know some of the
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: how the setup is, how that works for it. And
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: I think that's a good idea. Yeah, And I think
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: I think you're sharing your experiences right here and your
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: some of your struggles and your thoughts stuff. This is
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: really helpful stuff for a lot of people. It's important
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: stuff talking about because I think so much of what
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: you get in the hunting media today and sometimes we're
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: guilty of this too. We've got the best deer hunters
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: in the world on here who seemed invincible and their
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: ice cold and oh my gosh, this guy kills a
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: big de kills four big mature bucks every year. It
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: can seem kind of daunting, like how can I stack
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: up to that? And it's important to remember the world
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: just people. We all make mistakes, and each one of
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: us are at a different place, and we have our
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: own stroke and challenges. And I think hearing about stuff
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: you're going through in the decisions and things you're trying
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: to figure out, that looks back to the old videos.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: I had a lot of deer in there, but never kill. Yeah,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: you've you've certainly seen a lot, and you've had en calendars,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: and you've had opportunities and but it's not easy take
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: that final stuff. Well, we always talk about what you
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: think about your bring about. I never think about the
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: kill part. Always thought about all the other stuff involved
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: with hunting. Yeah, it's interesting you you talk a lot
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: about one one time we're uh one time we can.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: I tend to use humor to escape the reality of
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: not shooting. One time we were down here shed hunting
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: and we get into Peter's truck and we hadn't been
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: riding him, We had not been due, we hadn't been
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: riding with so no one had been in this truck
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: prior to this. So we hopped into his car. So
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: I had my fun in my pocket was outside and
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: in my circle. You record self affirmations you hear it's
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: really big on self improvement. Different. It was like, yeah,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: so you tell yourself and stuff enough, it's gonna just
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: implant your subconscious in it. Your body has nothing, your
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: mind will attract it to you. So the car comes
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: on and then on the speakers really loud, Peter Lynch,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: you will gross X hundreds of thousand dollars or whatever.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: Peter Lynch, you will that. He was repeating these goals.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: We just died. That's funny. Did yes, I have had
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: a boy. Well to you, my practice gets that income.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know what. I don't know what the dollar yeah, yeah,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: but to the point of vision. But if you don't
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: put that into your your hobby, yeah, it's not gonna
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: be something. Yeah like Ross. I know Ross God, he
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: manifests everything into his life because he thinks about Corey.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: They all thinks about his bucks. You saw that today.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: He actually has a I think I think I saw
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: him make a scrape, piss on his back legs a
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: little bit. I kind of rubbed him together look back.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: You know it just carried on. But you know something
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: I do to your point about um handling that moment,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: the truth, I'm betting Ross you probably do this. Maybe
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: I think you've talked about it, maybe you two two Ben.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: But when I get into a tree stand, I get
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: all set up. Once I'm all settled, and one of
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: the very first things I do is I look at
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: each one of my different shooting lanes or different places
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: where a deer might be able to come through, and
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: I imagine, okay, if there's a buck coming through here,
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: and I visualize a buck coming through this way, visually,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: I actually will make sure I can draw back and
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: visualize hold my bow drawn about. Okay, could I shoot
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: theory up? Can I imagine I'm visualizing a deer come
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: this direction, Okay, imagine drawing back. Yep, I can get
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: a shot there. I will do that in every different,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: every different way. So you think through what that scenarre
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: will look like. You're also seeing. Can I maneuver? Can
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: I get my arm drawn back? Can I do all
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: these different things? If that happened, If that happened, if
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: that happened. And I think that that really helps me
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: remember as a kid and I was shooting the backyard
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: u Permichigan, just with those basic bowls, just you pull back, boom,
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: let go, and remember the deer. I we talked that deer.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: I did she with with the bow and penetrated And
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: remember when I got up there, everything was perfect. That's
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: the one where I said, I'm gonna get a one thirty.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: I saw the deer, identified it as a shooter. I
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: didn't look at it again, actually had the camera perfect,
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: pulled back and then when I got through the peep sid,
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: I'm like, where am I? Because I couldn't identify were
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: I had to look away and come back again. And
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: then that was it. That's where it went a half
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: inch high, put that right in the shoulder blade, penetrated
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: maybe an inch two inches and there lived. So yeah,
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: it's all those a thousand tiny little things in the
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: last one second can go wrong, and it's we've all
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: been there, brother battle and battle and the inner demons,
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: and uh, if you want to you know, if if
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: it's important to you to work through them, it's it'll happen,
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: you know. And so yeah, anyone that's listening to this
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: podcast has heard that. I've had plenty of my own
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: struggles that way too, Dan Johnson as well, and we've
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: all we all have absolutely love so well. I hope
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: that we get you on here and the Fall of
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: two has an eighteen. Peter with your story of the
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: successful hunt. Me and Corey always talk about We talked
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: about you a lot, you know, Peter, I know I
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: feel it, and we we talked. You know what, when
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: Peter does get that buck, it's going to probably be
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: the biggest buck to any of us are ever killed.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: You probably will end up that first one. It's going
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: to be that one in the public land. And he
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: was talking about the big frame. Yeah, I like to
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: see like a hundred. Then that property again, a little
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: property had it's a twenty, and it was pretty amazing.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: A lot of big deer ahead all year, and I
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: didn't see too many during the hunting time frame, but
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: I felt like a monster could come from this ridge
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: through the paragraphs, through this little twenty to go somewhere
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: else to check those And and I had sat too
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: long the day before. I was really extremely crabby. All
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: days sit too early. Remember this, You were crabby too, Yeah,
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: next day, I compare, I could barely sleep, and Ross
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: text me, let's get breakfast, Like yes, I'm walking back
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: from my stand through this twenty and my truck is
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: only five yards away. I can see it and that's
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: hard to you know, like, let's go, we can do it.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: There was a one seventy coming through the progress, like
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: I kind of thought would happen, and it didn't happen
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: because you're you're already walking to breakfast. That's all right,
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: but you know who knows with that deer when I
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: came back by where I was, but I think I
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: could have saw him, So that's something because Sam and
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: just let him go buy me because I didn't shoot him. Joking,
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: of course, but joking of course. All right, Peter, any
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: final thoughts from you, any final things you want to cover? No,
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: I think we're good. Well, why I love hunting bigfoot.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: That's maybe for another time. You are a squatch believer,
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: aren't you. It's just entertaining entertainment. Yeah, if you get
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: lost on YouTube, go down a rabbit hole like a
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: big foot. Let's check it out and you're listening to it. Okay, So,
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: but Ross made a Ross made a buck grunt and
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: I made an elk bugle. I heard you can do
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: a pretty good squatch call. I don't know you've sent
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: us a you've sent us a video of you making
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: a squatch call before. Yeah, he's ross is kind of
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: an instigator. It sounds like a World War two areas. Yeah,
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: come on, we should I do it really loud? Sure?
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: Why not? Just move the speakers away? I kind of
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: like kind of that guy that of the group that
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: is the you're good at it? Yeah, thank you appreciate that.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: But you are. You are the wild card of our
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: group when especially when Dan's not here, You're the wild card. Ben.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: Have you ever heard one of these? Before you're ready?
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: It's supposed to sound like a World War two World
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: War two air raids siren. And we'll do it for
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: your audience because this is what they're tuning in for.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: That is that a male or female? That's an alpha male?
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: Because I did it. It's an alpha squatch and it's
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: important to be doing gifting. I gifted a little bit
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: out of your property today. Just say no, what does
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: that mean? Uh? Young snickers and apples? Just leave him
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: there for first watch? Yeah? What does this do for them?
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: Keep him on the property? It just keeps him there.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: And there wasn't well, there was no tree breaking. That
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: what that mean? Would you if you ran into squatch?
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: Would you mess with them? Or I would leave? You
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: would leave, they're dangerous. Yeah. Wow, to see again rabbit
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: hole on YouTube, you just listen to stuff like wow,
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: this is there's the whole world subculture tell us what
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: we need to watch out for. Alright, So let's say
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: you're in said stand alright, stand said stand the stand
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: where you're hunting. You're in the stand up and we've
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: all had this where the everything goes quiet, So there
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: could be a predator nearby. But if there's oh gosh,
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm putting myself out here like this.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: Remember his chiropractic practice. Yeah shit. But but you know,
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: it's it's just purely entertainments. And so then the people say,
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: if you smell sewer next to you, there's probably a
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: sasquatch running around trying to get you. You're gonna get
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: a whole new honest, because there's you're gonna subtitle sasquatch
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: and the talking points and people are going to tune
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: into this. You're welcome. So yeah, sorry, continue, that's what
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: he smells were gas. That's a problem, Yeah, because they
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: smelled atrocious. So if it's so, if you're the whole
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: point of this is there's this book called four one
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: one David Polate is missing and it kind of gets
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: into it. So it's an interesting book about disappearances on
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: national parks. We're going down to different We're going somewhere,
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: but this is a there's a lot more. Yeah, so
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: it's just ire. Yeah, tree knock and well you were
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: knocking last week. I hang, I hang with the weird
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: crew here. Ben. Well, when it's snowing out in your
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: shed hunting, it's like, what else are we gonna do?
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: What is tree knocking? Oh gosh, that's when we must
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: have watched Bobo on Discovery finding Bigfoot. You hit a
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: tree with a stick, and that's how. That's how, That's
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: how they communicate with each other. Okay, Yeah, it's kind
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: of like yeah, yeah, it's like, well, it's like a
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: sasquatch will say I'm over here, and then it could
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: be communicating to another scat squatch over here. These people, Yeah,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: there's this many that they have an intricate communication. The
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: Geese they have a sentinel who will sit high and
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: watch everything and communicate to the others, and then they
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: knock on trees. Yes to let it. There's no Oh
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: you must have been reading about this. No, I'm learning
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: no kind of inspiration here. Well, so I don't know, yeah,
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: where I got it right. Well, it's been nice knowing
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: you Mark. Thanks for having me on the podcast again
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: until next year. Any any final thoughts, Peter, we'll go
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: around the around the horn here and wrapping out. I
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: just think it's it's been a great day. Thank you
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: for let us walk the property. Appreciate it. Yeah, good time.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: Ross thought Ben thinks a lot. It was a great time. Um,
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: great people. Yeah, that was. Everybody's just awesome, And uh,
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: I think it was just it was super fun watching
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: everybody get excited finding those sheds, and I just hung
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: back watch everybody. It was. It was awesome. And because
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: we're also pick up twenty if I wish that, Yeah,
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: if I wasn't worried about finding sheds myself, what I
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: should have been doing was like I should have stood
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: on a hill and just videotape the whole thing and
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: just seeing that scatter and all the exciting it was
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: quite entertaining. That would have been great. It was, it was.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: It was a great time. Shed hunting is just awesome
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: because you know, deer hunting a lot of times it's solo,
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: you know, and and everybody kind of does their own thing,
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: but getting together shed hunting you can when else can
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: you mess around the woods like that with a group
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: of people and have a good time and sure and
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: uh have some good laughs. And you don't get to
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: really do that during deer season as much unless you
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: have like a deer camp or something like that. So
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: so I always look forward to this time here. We
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: need a deer camp. No, I'm really glad you guys
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: came down. Had an absolute blast mission accomplished today, right,
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, we we found some has a bit more
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: importantly we had we had a ton of fun, and um,
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: it's awesome get to know you guys a little bit.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of good things about you. So
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: it's great to spend a day within uh you know,
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: going back to shed rally. I mean it's uh pretty
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: rewarding whenever you get some people out there that don't
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: necessarily have any familiar familiarity with hunting or anything, and
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: and uh you can let him into our world a
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: little bit, and uh, we need to do more of
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: that is what it comes down to, right, And you
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: know we're not gonna get into this big I'm not
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: gonna get on this big pulpit or whatnot. But it's
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: a good thing to introduce somebody to the outdoors and um,
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: you know, hey, we we did that today. Shut. Hunting
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: is a good way to do that. Absolutely, just a
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: fun excuse to walk in the woods and enjoy camaraderie
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: and have a good time. Yeah, so we did it. Awesome.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: Well I'll just uh, I'll end with a little plug
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: for our buddy. If you need a map for your property,
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: Ben makes the best ones out there. You do some awesome,
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: awesome work with Hunt Terror maps. I love my map.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: I got him on the wall behind me so I
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: sit there at the computer desk working and then I
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: can spin around and look up there and daydream and
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: think about where I'd rather be in a tree. Um.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: I sent to my brother for Christmas, even he hadn't
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: heard of Hunter, and he's blown away. It's going to
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: be in a picture frame basically in our house or
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: his camp. Awesome. So yeah, so he's pretty pumped. It's
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: very cool. And as we alluded to earlier, the mobile
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: map was really was a really cool tool today too,
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: So he's super useful. So I'm glad you glad you
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: guys like him, keep up the good work man, And
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: where can we find that stuff online? H Hunter dot com.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: That's uh, that's where where we are. We got we
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: ramped up our our social media presence. We're doing a
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: lot of um, a lot of posts with Instagram and
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: facebooks to look us up on there as well. Awesome,
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: Thanks guys, Thank you looking forward this looking forward to
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: shed really two pieces and that's a rap, folks. Hope
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: you enjoyed this strange, wandering, bizarre conversation. We we certainly
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: enjoyed it at least, so uh. Just a final reminder,
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: like I said at the very beginning, we've got the
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: live podcast this Saturday, March seventeen, two thousand and eighteen.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: Really hope to see you guys there and hope to
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: share a cold beverage with you as well at the
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: podcast or afterwards at the b h A pint night.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a lot of fun. Uh. And then finally,
• 1:33:23
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• 1:33:24
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• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: thank you all for listening, thanks for being with us,
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: thanks for tuning in and tagging along for all of
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: our adventures over the years. I appreciate it so much,
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: and until next time, stay wired to Hunt.