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149 // Brea Estep’s story offers hope for autoimmune remission · Health with Hashimoto’s - Thyroid or Immune Education for Autoimmune Thyroid Disease

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  Welcome back to another episode of Health with Hashimoto's. I am so excited
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  for you to hear from my guest.
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  Today, I have Bria Sharon Estep. She is a former Mrs.
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  United States in 2021. That was her title. She is a board certified integrative health practitioner.
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  She's a personal trainer, group fitness instructor, business coach,
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  keynote speaker, and an author.
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  She wrote the Holistic Health Clean Eating Cookbook. She has over a decade of
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  experience in the health and fitness industry,
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  and she uses her health struggles and education to teach and coach women to
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  find the underlying root cause of their health concerns to finally get their
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  health and body back holistically.
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  Bria, I'm so excited that you're here because this podcast is all about getting
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  to the root causes and helping people get their health back.
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  So will you start out by telling us a little bit about your story?
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  This kind of bio, it doesn't come without pain and struggles and an experience. So tell us your story.
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  Yeah. Oh, my goodness, Esther. I'm so glad to be here and just so excited to
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  have this conversation.
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  Yeah. How I got into integrative health truly is my story.
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  And that's why I love talking about it. And that's why I do what I do.
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  So I guess long story short, for me, it was a hot scorcher summer day here in
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  North Carolina. And I had just finished my afternoon shift at work.
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  See, I had owned a gym and I was doing all of the things. I owned my personal
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  training studio gym that I ran full time. I was going to school full time.
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  I was bouncing back after just helping my dad or my mom take care of my dad
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  who unfortunately passed away from a brain tumor.
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  I was doing 20 plus fitness competitions. I was coaching fitness competitions.
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  I even had a social life again like doing it all.
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  Until I wasn't. So there I was standing at the bottom of the stairs after I
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  just finished my afternoon shift at work, and it took me a little bit more than
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  a lot of effort to get out of the car.
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  And I remember standing there, and I was looking up at the bottom of my stairs,
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  or looking up from the bottom of my stairs, and I didn't think I could make
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  it up the flight of stairs.
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  I was in my 20s, in my mid-20s, and I was physically exhausted.
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  I was dealing with chronic pain and, you know, just not feeling great.
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  I gained 30 pounds in less than three months.
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  And I was doing all of the right stuff. I owned a gym. So I was working out
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  six days a week with cardio and weights. And I was eating no sugar.
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  And I was eating low carb.
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  And again, I was doing fitness competitions. So I was doing all of the right
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  things. And the pounds just kept pecking on.
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  And so I was physically exhausted. But I was also mentally and emotionally exhausted,
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  as I'm sure many of our listeners have felt as well.
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  Because there I was trying to tell all of these women and some men too.
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  But what to do, you know, work out more, eat less, and, you know, just be active.
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  And the pounds kept pecking on. I felt like an imposter.
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  And I took it out on anybody and everybody around me like an emotional wrecking ball.
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  And so I got into integrative health. You probably, like we heard in the bio,
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  Mrs. United States 2021, happy, fit, and healthy.
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  Couldn't be more, couldn't be more grateful. But that's why I've made it my
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  mission to, to do exactly what I do to help women heal holistically. So that's how I thought.
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  That is a huge story. And you mentioned to me earlier that you had an autoimmune
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  condition, and it is now fully in remission.
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  I know that is the dream for so many people. Can you tell me about that?
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  Yeah, yeah. I was diagnosed, I say, a decade plus of doctors and drugs,
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  prescription drugs. My husband's in law enforcement, so I have to say that.
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  But it just sounds better, you know, all the alliteration.
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  But yeah, I was diagnosed with, I'm going to try and remember everything for
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  us here, thyroid adrenal hormone issues.
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  I was dealing with estrogen lower than that. Somebody postmenopausal in my 20s.
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  So dealing with hot flashes in my 20s. That's super fun to try and explain.
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  Scoliosis rare type of spina bifida fibromyalgia the
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  Raynaud's that we were talking about before let's see
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  I was dealing with skin issues like skin
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  rashes eczema psoriasis kind of a mix between the two trying to think what else
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  infertility seven years of infertility and then again hormones all over the
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  place so I've been diagnosed with a lot and now I don't take any medication
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  and again and pretty good,
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  other than a little cranky here and there,
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  a little sore if I work out too hard.
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  Other than that, good to go. So, super- That is amazing.
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  Wow. What was the biggest thing that turned your health around?
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  Was there one thing, or was it a lot of little things?
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  So, yes and no. The one thing for me was, I had tried everything. So, I had tried keto.
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  I was like, oh, let me try vegan. Let me do this, let me do that.
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  Let me try CrossFit. Let me do that. Let me do intermittent fasting.
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  So I was doing, again, literally all of the things, and all of the things that
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  had worked before weren't working for me.
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  It's not like I was sitting on the couch eating Chips Ahoy and Oreo cookies.
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  I mean, it's one thing if you're doing that and you're frustrated with your
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  health, and I'm sure so many of our listeners have felt the same way.
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  Like, I'm doing all of the things. I'm not eating that bad. It's not like I'm,
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  again, eating Chips Ahoy and Oreos and Fritos and Cheetos and Doritos and all
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  those and sitting on the couch. I'm active.
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  I'm eating healthy. what's going on. So for me, it was figuring out that my
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  body wasn't broken. That was number one.
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  So our bodies are designed to heal. I'm a big person of faith.
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  That's how what I believe God designed our bodies to heal.
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  They're not broken. They're trying to tell us something.
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  So we just have to know how to listen. We need to be able to listen to the whisper
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  before our bodies start to scream.
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  And why is because it's not the same.
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  So yes, keto can work for some people, and I can get into that.
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  And another point in time for women after 21 days, maybe 28,
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  it's too much stress on the body, especially women of childbearing ages.
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  But everything takes a back burner to stress, and that's what I didn't realize.
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  And that stress for all of us manifests differently. It's internal stress and external stress.
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  So what affects the brain affects the gut and what affects the gut affects the brain.
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  So my internal stress that I was dealing with, with candida bacterial yeast
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  overgrowth and heavy metal toxicities and parasites and all of that.
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  Yes, I was dealing with lots of external stress, but my body couldn't heal itself
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  because I wasn't getting to the underlying root cause of exactly what's going on.
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  So it was knowing my specific toxicities and my specific deficiencies to eliminate
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  those toxicities, to replace those deficiencies, to get my body back to a state
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  of equilibrium where it can heal itself, which it completely did.
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  That's awesome. And I love that you don't, like some people in medicine,
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  they're like a one size fits all.
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  I love that you're not that because that's not the human body.
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  We're all so bio-individual.
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  We're different emotionally and spiritually.
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  We all have our own unique spot. And I love that you recognize that and honor
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  that. So when you're working with somebody, I know in your integrative space,
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  you talk a lot about labs and hormones and all the testing.
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  So my audience, they're familiar with, you know, TSH, free T4,
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  free T3, reverse T3, the main thyroid labs.
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  And, you know, side note, listener, go back to the first episode.
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  Episode, I think maybe three covers labs.
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  And we have other ones to go in depth on those things.
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  If you're like, Esther, no, no, I'm not actually familiar with those.
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  But Bria, can you tell us, like, let's go beyond those.
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  What else would you look at? Why are those not enough?
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  Yeah. So one thing that I'll say, too, and this is why I got into the integrative
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  functional medicine side is because my doctor would look at my labs and, oh, you're fine.
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  You know, just eat less and work out more. I'm starving. Literally, I'm starving.
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  Workout six days a week. It's my job. Like that's not working for me. Like what else?
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  You're fine. Your labs are fine, but I don't feel fine. So what I didn't know
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  is blood's a homeostatic fluid.
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  So it's going to pull from wherever it needs to in order to stay at homeostasis.
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  So just because your labs are fine doesn't mean that they're necessarily fine.
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  So women that are diagnosed, women that have osteoporosis, we might not actually
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  be able to see it in the blood because the blood's pulling from where it needs
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  to to be able to stay level at homeostasis.
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  But when we look at like a hair tissue mineral analysis, we can see that calcium depleted.
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  So that's why I love functional medicine labs. And for hormones and thyroid,
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  I look through actually saliva.
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  It actually goes, it's more stable when it gets back to the lab.
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  It's a better read for your hormones.
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  And also thyroid adrenal hormones are all so related that we need to see that whole picture.
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  I need to see everything going on. I don't, you know, yes, blood work is beneficial,
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  and I highly, highly recommend at least annually getting your blood work,
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  but it's only a piece of the puzzle.
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  Let's look through saliva. And I'm looking at, so let me back up just a little
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  bit, and I'm going to kind of get nerd for our listeners here today,
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  but everything takes a back burner to stress. And again, this is where I went wrong.
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  But when your body's in a stressed out state, its primary focus is to produce cortisol.
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  The inflammation hormone, which, yes, we want some of, but when we're stuck
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  in a chronic fight or flight, that's when it becomes a problem.
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  So again, our bodies aren't broken. They're designed to heal.
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  If I'm getting chased by a bear, I don't want to be like, hey,
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  Mr. Bear, hold on. I'm going to need a snack break.
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  Hang on, Mr. Lion. I'd love to continue this chase, but I've got to take a potty break.
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  No, everything down regulates to produce cortisol. So our immune system takes a back burner.
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  Our digestion takes a back burner because we don't have time for a potty break
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  or a snack break when we're getting chased by a bear. Again,
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  our bodies aren't broken.
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  So when our immune system, you know, we end up getting sick.
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  And when our digestion takes a back burner, we're not able to extract the nutrients
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  that we need to convert T4 to T3, the usable form.
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  We aren't able to get the selenium and the iodine and all that.
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  We're not able to break down the healthy food properly because our digestion is downregulated.
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  Also, when our digestion down regulates, we're not able to get rid of those toxins.
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  And then all of that ferments in our gut. And you know, when you like open up,
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  I'm trying to think of something that pops, like a champagne bottle that...
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  That's what happens when everything ferments, and then we have all of the gas
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  and digestion issues and all of that when everything ferments.
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  And then our sleep takes a back burner because if I'm getting chased by a bear
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  or a lion or something, I don't want to go into a deep sleep.
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  I can't rest. I can't recover. I can't rejuvenate. So I'm looking at all that,
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  but also, and again, this is the key for me, what happens is when our bodies
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  are in that stressed out state, the primary focus is to produce cortisol.
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  But the same precursors that go to produce cortisol also go over to produce progesterone.
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  So progesterone is our mother hormone that controls our other hormones.
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  So especially with women, our hormones are going up and down in our luteal and
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  follicular phases all throughout our cycle.
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  So again, that's why blood work is not always great because,
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  yes, your blood work could be great for the luteal phase. But is it great for the follicular phase?
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  That's why I don't always love blood work for hormones, which is,
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  again, so related to thyroid.
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  But when all of those other hormones are doing a dance and our progesterone
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  is way too low, I'm looking at the progesterone to estrogen ratio versus just
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  a straight-out estrogen ratio, just a T3, T4, all of that stuff.
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  In integrative health and functional medicine labs, we actually look at things
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  before they get to be a problem.
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  So your primary care physician, your OBGYN, and again, let me just say this too.
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  I think doctors have our best interest at heart, exceptions to every rule.
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  But most people go into a doctor's office and what do they want?
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  They want a drug and a diagnosis.
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  What's a doctor going to give to you in the maybe 10 minutes?
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  Maybe if you're lucky, 10 minutes they have with you, a drug and a diagnosis.
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  What are they going to study? Drugs and diagnoses, because that's what most people want.
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  But again, for people like me
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  that were like, oh, there's something else going on. Like, what can I do?
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  There's not a lot. We're not able to talk about that sleep that we talked about.
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  How's your sleep? What are you eating? We're not able to talk about all of those things.
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  So when all of this dance is going on we're not able to see to see the whole
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  picture how stressed is your body we're not able to to get into all that did
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  that answer your question i kind of no that was awesome i and the quote that
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  i'm going to take away from this whole episode.
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  Is listen to the whisper before your body has to yell like i mean just that
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  one sentence oh my goodness yes now i stole that i don't remember where i saw
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  so like don't don't give me full credit for it.
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  But yeah, but it makes so much sense.
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  Yes. Our body is always trying to communicate.
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  So when you do the saliva test, do people do it from home or how does that work?
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  Yes. So everything that I do in functional medicine labs that I run are all at home.
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  So you just spit into a tube four times throughout the day. I want a four point cortisol test.
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  I don't want it just first thing in the morning, which honestly,
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  if you go to your doctor's office, it's not like you just magically like, oh, I'm here.
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  You know, we got to get up and drive and hopefully, you know,
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  brush our teeth and all of these other things before we get to the doctor's office for our blood.
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  But when we do them at home, everything is right there. And then we just ship it off to the lab.
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  The lab sends me the results as an integrative health practitioner.
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  And the client and I go over those lab results together, as well as the protocols to rebalance.
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  Again, we're eliminating those toxicities, replacing those deficiencies to get
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  the body in a position in order to heal itself.
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  So if somebody came to you and say, Bria, I have Hashimoto's.
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  I know that, you know, my TSH was this. I'm on this medication.
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  What else are you going to look at? Are you going to do a full like hormone
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  panel? Are you going to get hair too?
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  Or what's, I guess, what's the minimum?
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  And then what's the full package? What would you want if budget wasn't an issue?
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  If budget's not an issue, what I would love to see is my big five functional
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  medicine labs. So a hair tissue mineral analysis.
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  The reason that I want to see this is minerals are spark plugs in life as well
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  as they buffer stress for us.
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  So this shows me how stressed the body is as well as how that stress is affecting
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  the body. It's just a simple hair sniff.
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  As well as, again, we talked about the gut. Everything takes a back burner to
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  stress and our immune system.
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  70% of our immune system is produced in our gut.
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  You know, all of this stuff we're on a gut brain loop is going on in our gut.
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  And again, if I can't break down my food properly, I'm not extracting the nutrients
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  that I need in order for all of those biochemical reactions to work every single day.
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  So I want to see just an at-home urine sample.
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  That's super awesome to see. And again, I want to see that saliva test that's
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  going to show me, yes, your TSH, your T3.
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  Oh, I know what I was going to say. In integrative health, we look at things
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  through a different scope as well.
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  So I'm addressing a problem before it becomes a problem.
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  So your TSH, I'm looking. If you have symptoms, I'm going to go ahead and start addressing at a 2.
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  If you don't have symptoms, at least a 2.5 instead of a 4 or 4.5 like conventional
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  medicine because I want to prevent the screaming. I want to hear the whisper.
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  So I'm looking at that saliva test that's going to show me thyroid adrenal hormone.
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  It's going to show me the TSH. It's going to show me my estrogen to progesterone
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  ratio, my DHEA's, four-point cortisol test, TSH, testosterone.
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  What else did I not say? Vitamin D3.
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  That's all in that saliva lab right there. I'm also looking at a food sensitivity
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  lab of almost 200 different foods to know your specific sensitivity.
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  So just because you're eating something that's healthy doesn't necessarily mean
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  that it's healthy for your body, especially if there's a gut and dysbiosis where
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  your body can't break it down properly.
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  And then the hair lab also is going to show me toxic metals as well.
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  And then an omega-3 inflammation lab to see where our inflammation levels are
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  because heart disease is the number one killer of women.
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  If we can get your omega-3 to 6 ratio,
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  where it needs to be, we can reduce the risk of all cardiovascular disease-related
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  death. There we go. Say that five times fast. I can't.
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  By 90, 90%. So that's a huge one too.
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  So if I can, I want to see all of those labs instead of, oh,
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  it could be heavy metal toxicity that's throwing this off, that's throwing this off.
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  Well, it could be a gut issue that's throwing this off, that's throwing this
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  off. Well, it could be this.
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  Basically, genetics loads the gun, but lifestyle pulls the trigger.
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  And yes, lifestyle because of what we do, but also from the toxins in our environment,
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  so many that we can't control.
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  So that's why when somebody is like, hey, I have Graves' disease.
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  Okay, so just because one person has Graves' disease and another person has
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  Graves' disease, it's not always necessarily the same cause that's causing it.
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  So that's why we need to look specifically at what's going on for you,
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  your specific toxicities, your specific deficiencies in order to eliminate those
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  toxicities and replace those deficiencies.
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  Yes, so much yes. So if somebody can't do the big five, what would be the bare minimum?
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  Again, it depends on symptoms. Normally what I do with a client is I get them
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  to do a 100-ish question intake form.
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  It's a lot. It is a lot. It's a lot. But I want to know everything.
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  And then I want to piece together the puzzle and see exactly what you need.
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  Normally, if I can only pick one lab, I want to see a hair tissue mineral analysis
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  because everything takes a back burner to stress like we talked about.
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  And those minerals give us our energy like our spark plugs for life,
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  but they also buffer that stress.
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  So that's normally where I start to get the minerals right.
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  In order to be able to do all that we need to do to reduce that stress,
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  then we can go into the gut and that stress affects, of course,
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  thyroidotretinal hormone.
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  So that's what we're looking at normally first. Again, depending on symptoms,
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  though, but if somebody is, you know,
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  dealing with major digestive issues we might start with
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  a gut lab first or something like that so it really depends on on what's
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  going on okay so now i have a question i don't even have it with me i once got
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  a hair tissue mineral analysis for free and i never did it because i was worried
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  about cutting my hair like i had no the box says like cut this much and like
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  it had a scale of how much I needed.
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  But I have long hair and I was so worried. So give us some tips on that because,
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  like I know the value of that test.
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  I mean, I didn't. It was free, which made it a little easier to toss it in the garbage.
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  But the biggest thing was cutting my hair. And I did not want to do that.
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  It really worried me. So give us some tips to make that less scary.
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  Let's play show and tell. It's one of my favorite games.
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  I also washed my hair yesterday. Yesterday was a hair washing.
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  That's the only reason that we're doing this, but I'm going to show you how
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  we kind of get around that.
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  I probably have a crease from working out earlier, but I mean,
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  my hair is pretty, pretty long.
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  Like, yeah, it's not short, but what you're going to do because I'm in my spinny
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  chair is I like to get somebody else to do it for me.
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  If you're, and we want to make sure when we do a hair tissue mineral analysis
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  that it's at least six weeks after getting our hair colored.
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  Most women get their hair colored if they do color their hair every six weeks.
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  So when you get your hair colored.
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  It's a great idea just to get your hairdresser to do it. She's probably not going to mind.
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  She's probably like, wait, what are you doing? I want to know more. Mine always does.
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  So literally, tell me if you can't hear me.
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  We're going to get in right in here. And I take a couple different strands from
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  right here, right here, right here.
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  I don't know if you heard me, but break it up and in different parts throughout the hair.
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  So it's not like I'm getting like one big like, you know, hunk or anything like that.
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  And normally for a hair tissue mineral analysis, we only want the root because
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  we want to see what comes out in the past like three to four months.
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  I want to say like total, it might be Like maybe, maybe this much hair,
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  depending on how thick your hair is.
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  But if we split that up in a couple different sections, you honestly can't even tell.
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  Like I've done mine maybe four or five times.
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  Okay. You can't tell. Just get it in the middle towards the back.
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  Okay. That makes it so much easier. And for everybody who's just listening,
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  I will have this up on YouTube because interviews, I do video.
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  But if you're listening, she put up her hair in a half pony and then took it
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  from a couple spots right underneath the part for the half pony.
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  That makes it so much more. Like, I wish I would have had that video.
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  I would have done the hair tissue analysis.
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  But I was freaked out. And so I just opted not to do it. So maybe now I'll have to do one.
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  Most women are, especially if you're dealing with hair loss,
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  issues from thyroid issues.
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  So if you are there is other places
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  you can get hair you can you know use body hair or something
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  like that it just normally doesn't show us what we need
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  and you have to take so much it normally doesn't work but if
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  that's our only option then that's our only option so I know it's you know many
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  men are bold so you know what do we do there so interesting I didn't even think
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  about that I'll take it from my hair from my head yeah kind of so hard to do
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  but I have to maybe grow out a patch or something.
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  Like, why do you have a patch of hair on your leg?
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  Why do you have one hairy knee? Well, I'm doing it. It's a great conversation
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  start. It's a great speaker at the beach, I'm sure. Right?
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  Cool day with your kids. They're splashing along.
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  We would do it in the winter. I
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  mean, let's be honest. We'll do it in the winter. That's fair. Good call.
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  Yes. I have learned so much, and I know my listeners have. But for the woman
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  who is listening right now, she's tired. She's overwhelmed.
• 21:52
  She's not getting answers. Like you said, you know, a decade of diagnoses and
• 21:56
  everything from the doctor.
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  What is the one thing that you want her to remember from our conversation today?
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  One thing. Let me just give you hope that you can heal holistically.
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  And if you can remember one thing, everything takes a back burner to stress. Your body's not broken.
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  It's trying to tell you something. We just have to figure out what should be
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  in your body that's not and what shouldn't be in your body that is.
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  Yes. Yes, yes. And so if somebody wants to connect with you and work with you,
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  what's the best way for them to do that?
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  You can find me on social media at Bria Sharon Fitness on pretty much all of the platforms.
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  But also I have a free holistic health, wellness and weight loss Facebook group
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  that has about a thousand members in there.
• 22:40
  That's a great way to connect with me as well to get a bunch of my free resources
• 22:45
  and continue that conversation even deeper and talk about you and your specific needs.
• 22:50
  Very cool i will have that link in the show notes thank you thank you thank
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  you this podcast is for informational and educational purposes only please discuss
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  Music.