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BIG Changes For Daytme Emmies · The Daytime Emmys Specials

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  Speaker 1: Fish, Grease is Hot. Hi, everybody, welcome to the fifty
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  Speaker 1: third excuse me, Annual after show for the third Annual Emmys.
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  Speaker 1: All right, no, you guys, I'm James Junior. We have
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  Speaker 1: one of several hosts of this show, Ms. Candace Mac.
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  Speaker 1: I loves Candace.
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  Speaker 2: Hi. How you doing, folks.
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  Speaker 1: So big news came out today from the Empire, the
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  Speaker 1: Emmys Empire for the Day Tommy that first one comment first.
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  Speaker 1: Their pages on x Splash, Twitter, Twist, what you wanna
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  Speaker 1: call it are so outdated, so outdated, they're still posting
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  Speaker 1: stuff from the post this last year on what's going on.
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  Speaker 1: They're like, go today table, go to the Emmys dot tv,
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  Speaker 1: and it's still from last year. I guess it's all
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  Speaker 1: come on social media for daytime. Emmies work or Emmy's
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  Speaker 1: working out. Please, it's behind. So if you want information,
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  Speaker 1: you have to actually go to other sources who got
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  Speaker 1: it from the Emmys and it's it's crazy. I I
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  Speaker 1: got an email and Cas, I'm sure you got email
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  Speaker 1: to you.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, lovely pp out file this morning, and so we're
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  Speaker 3: going to talk about some of the changes and things
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  Speaker 3: are coming up and some dates for you guys.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So the Daytime Emmys this year will be in
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  Speaker 1: October again, and he thoughts about that because because oh,
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  Speaker 1: before you that, so it's October thirtieth, but the nominations
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  Speaker 1: will announced in July for October, all right, so what
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  Speaker 1: are your thoughts on that alone? And they're waiting that
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  Speaker 1: long again to do it.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So I'm just gonna say this is a big picture.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna flat out say it. They're really structuring
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  Speaker 3: the Daytime Emmy still look and feel more like the
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  Speaker 3: Prometime Emmys by going later on in the year because
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  Speaker 3: September it is the Primetime Emmys on NBC or Fox.
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  Speaker 3: And then this, by the way, as of right now,
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  Speaker 3: March nineteenth, we have not heard anything about a network.
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  Speaker 2: Like regular network or streaming network or if it's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be online that's they.
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  Speaker 3: Usually announce it like a month or two out, unlike
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  Speaker 3: other places that's already announced their awards on NBC and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: That's another stuff from that. Well, it's later than it
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  Speaker 2: normally that it was last year.
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  Speaker 3: It's literally Halloween eve. So come dust up, folks. I
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  Speaker 3: don't care, Okay. If I'm gonna be real about this,
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  Speaker 3: I wish you was sooner, because that's too that's that's
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  Speaker 3: a long time to wait for the day to because
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  Speaker 3: it's since it's accounted the year, you're almost might as
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  Speaker 3: west take getting ready for another calendar year to wind up.
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  Speaker 2: When the awards happened, I saw the other.
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  Speaker 3: Awards like Sports and News Documents. They're gonna be taking
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  Speaker 3: place in May in New York City.
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  Speaker 1: I saw that. Yes, so I'm I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Two ways about it.
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  Speaker 3: I again, great that we have them, Great that we
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  Speaker 3: still have the Daytime Emmys. I'm just not too thrilled
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  Speaker 3: about it being so late in the year.
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  Speaker 1: And have no wait, I agree with you that one.
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  Speaker 1: But I get what they tried to do is if
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  Speaker 1: there's an awards season, right to do it.
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  Speaker 3: Time Emmys, and then after that they're trying to what
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  Speaker 3: they're actually really trying to do And actually wrote it
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  Speaker 3: down my little nets because James asked me this. So
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  Speaker 3: they're trying to be more they're trying to be taken
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  Speaker 3: more seriously in the industry instead of if I dare
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  Speaker 3: say a joke, because not everybody really the Daytime Emmies
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  Speaker 3: is not what it used to be.
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  Speaker 2: It's just.
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  Speaker 1: There.
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  Speaker 2: It's literally there, like and I'm not saying that to
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  Speaker 2: be mean. It's just that's.
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  Speaker 3: How the insiders the industry really does look at the
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  Speaker 3: Daytime Emmys. They're just like, Okay, we can move this
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  Speaker 3: award that's supposed to be important that to us, it
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  Speaker 3: is important May June, July, August, late October or that
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  Speaker 3: one year it was what like no, it's like like yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it was like late, like.
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  Speaker 1: When you're thinking about to tell you think about time
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  Speaker 1: they had to make up for the one Emmys because
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  Speaker 1: of the war. It was like the arch or something.
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  Speaker 1: It was like really weird.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird. Yeah, so she is.
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  Speaker 1: She is speaking correctly according to the email. To align
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  Speaker 1: competitions the contest. This is for everything we're about to
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  Speaker 1: talk about too. The contest has switched to a prop
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  Speaker 1: quote unquote for your listeners, I'm doing air quotes primetime
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  Speaker 1: format that focuses on episode based submissions for craft categories
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  Speaker 1: rather than team based structure, which allows the full team
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  Speaker 1: to be awarded based on a single submission. A program
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  Speaker 1: is therefore eligible to enter multiple submissions for different episodes
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  Speaker 1: and potentially receive multiple nominations in the SAM category. So, folks,
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  Speaker 1: that's happening already in the Primetime Emmys. I know it
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  Speaker 1: sounds crazy to hear it here, but that's the all point.
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  Speaker 1: There's times when like Sex and City or Everybody Loves Raymon,
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  Speaker 1: or they had like four or five nominations except for
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  Speaker 1: four or five different episodes in one category because it's
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  Speaker 1: out for writing teams. Is for the writers of that episode.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of like it that so much, so.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna break it down for those who are just
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  Speaker 3: like still trying to be like, okay, what does that
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  Speaker 3: really mean?
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  Speaker 2: Like James breaking down in English?
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  Speaker 3: Someone breaking down, even even if it's a translation that
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  Speaker 3: everybody understands, the more more chances for so it shows
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  Speaker 3: to dominate the categories. So let's take episode fifteen thousand
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  Speaker 3: and six, which was Phyllis and Sharon's rescue right from Young.
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  Speaker 2: And the Russs.
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  Speaker 3: It could not only be indirecting, it could also be acting.
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  Speaker 3: It could also be writing. It could be camera angle,
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  Speaker 3: it could be score, it could be.
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  Speaker 2: Costume design.
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  Speaker 1: It could be hair and makeup.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, hair makeup. It could be just like that.
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  Speaker 3: And then take episode fifteen thousand and seventeen.
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  Speaker 2: The same thing.
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  Speaker 3: So if Beyond the Gates submits like four episodes or
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  Speaker 3: three depending on that too. That's what they can do
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  Speaker 3: like multiple episodes in the same category.
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  Speaker 1: Let me say this, guess this leads into this, folks.
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  Speaker 1: This park is a little tricky. Canus is correcting what
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  Speaker 1: she's describing, So here goes I. This is what I'm
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  Speaker 1: my feeling.
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  Speaker 2: This one.
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  Speaker 1: Joint drama slash Cantus is ready. Non fiction categories, we
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  Speaker 1: don't take that means, folks, according to the Emmys, in
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  Speaker 1: a craft except writing and direction dramas, that means your
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  Speaker 1: soap operas. Nonfiction programs means not your soap operas. Kelly Clarkson, Well, well,
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  Speaker 1: now enter alongside one another. In daytime categories, this will
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  Speaker 1: be split into several caps. This will be split into
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  Speaker 1: separate categories if both the daytime drama and daytime nonfiction
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  Speaker 1: have at least ten submissions per track. Here's an example,
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  Speaker 1: and then Da Cancill She's like, she's my Obama translator.
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  Speaker 1: She'll do something that let to do this life example.
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  Speaker 1: If the dramas and non dramas each have at least
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  Speaker 1: ten entries in the costume design styling category, contest administration
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  Speaker 1: will create a costume design and styling a daytime drama series,
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  Speaker 1: and a costume design is styling in a daytime nonfiction
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  Speaker 1: program category. If they do not have those ten entries each,
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  Speaker 1: they'll all could beat the same one. So what they
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  Speaker 1: say is they go to create one. If it's more
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  Speaker 1: they get through, as they every judge, it would be
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  Speaker 1: kind of weird for me doing this. Candists explain in
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  Speaker 1: regular terms, break it down, girl, bring it down.
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  Speaker 2: For it versus Kelly Clarkson. That's not gonna do it.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, competing in the same categories, Okay, Now.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna do the James Lyte Jr. And the Cannas
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  Speaker 2: mad Okay, that's what we're gonna call it. From the
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  Speaker 2: industry point of view, I get it.
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  Speaker 3: Writing is writing, directing is directing, and everything else like that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, if there are enough entries, if they if we
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  Speaker 2: get it. If there are enough, then they'll separate.
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  Speaker 3: If not, However, here's the Cannas point of it.
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  Speaker 2: It's not fair.
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  Speaker 3: Had to script this show like a soap opera goes
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  Speaker 3: up against a talk shows two different skill sets. One
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  Speaker 3: is carved out for a long arc, writing long arcs
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  Speaker 3: and all that. One does segments and like you know
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  Speaker 3: other little things that is not fair. But again I
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  Speaker 3: get from the industry point of view. Hey, if they're
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  Speaker 3: writing for a show, they're writing for a show.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna honor that. This. I'm gonna be honest, this might.
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  Speaker 3: Be the biggest. I don't think this is gonna be
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  Speaker 3: a good one. This is the one that pissed everybody off.
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  Speaker 1: To be honest, Okay, it's weird. That's from a logistical standpoint.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going so if they put more work on the
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  Speaker 1: contest of I mean administration, they get themselves more work.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of weird, Like, while you get more work
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  Speaker 1: for yourself because to say, there's forty submissions, come in,
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  Speaker 1: let me all get viable up there. So you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: create the category and you're gonna create it's like.
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  Speaker 2: Trying to make the show more interesting.
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  Speaker 1: I know that's James's right there, the singing out kids.
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  Speaker 1: I just think it sounds like more work for the
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  Speaker 1: EEMI folks, and just confusion and and like, because of
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  Speaker 1: what cancer is alluding to, I think there's room for
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  Speaker 1: error to happen. It could be a cluster f can happen.
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  Speaker 2: I was shying so hard y'all saw I was like
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  Speaker 2: for a visual y'all, y'all saw the light.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I feel like that is that it's gonna be really.
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  Speaker 2: I want to know who came up with that idea?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's just that's it's it's really weird. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's a weird one. I have to say. It's
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  Speaker 1: a weird one. So when we're doing our nomination special
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  Speaker 1: and it's gonna be very interesting because he would walker
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  Speaker 1: and then have to say about that, it's been very interesting. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: here's another one. Actually, I'm curious what we can't think
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  Speaker 1: about this? This This category is one of the craziest
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  Speaker 1: categories because I'll the same yes, performer in a daytime drama.
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  Speaker 1: Here's what the Emmy's say and as he's ready. The
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  Speaker 1: guest category is now mandated by a maximum of nineteen
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  Speaker 1: percent of episodes air slash streamed for the first time
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  Speaker 1: during the calendar year of twenty twenty five. Performers appearing
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  Speaker 1: on more episodes than that are eligible only in the
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  Speaker 1: Leading Supporting and Emerging Talent categories. He's a little side
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  Speaker 1: thing there. The former definition was a performance in a
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  Speaker 1: limited role with a definitive beginning and end to the
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  Speaker 1: storyline arc. I actually I like this because you watched
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  Speaker 1: our specials over the years, something always comes like, well,
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  Speaker 1: weren't they weren't they? And then when we're thinking about
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  Speaker 1: who we want to have to be nominated, they should
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  Speaker 1: be and they should be over here and they should
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  Speaker 1: Like I'm actually, I'm actually okay with this, Candice, You're right.
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  Speaker 2: I'm breaking down to y'all because I'm using this person.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, Arabs lays that, Okay, Okay, I personally think is
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  Speaker 3: going to get into this category.
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  Speaker 2: If not, I need to talk to some people, all right.
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  Speaker 3: So she qualifies as a guest performer because of the
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  Speaker 3: episode count, not because of the short art.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the here's the deal.
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  Speaker 3: She was only she was only there for eight percent
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  Speaker 3: of that nineteen Yes, canus counted this?
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  Speaker 2: You can't go over nineteen now, y'all know she's my girl.
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  Speaker 1: You did say, Okay, a maximum night, Okay, goud sorry,
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  Speaker 1: go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: So Alie Mills and Benignnate watch watch it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and even Max Gil.
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  Speaker 1: What's daddy?
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah him too. Now.
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  Speaker 3: Previously this has been a situation where they've been on more.
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  Speaker 2: Than nineteen percent of the episodes. They were typically supporting actors.
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  Speaker 3: However, I guess because supporting actor was because okay, real
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  Speaker 3: talk came.
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  Speaker 2: Out guess performer.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes it's easier to get in than your lead and
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  Speaker 3: supporting nominations. Have a good day just saying but no,
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  Speaker 3: this does mean the correct format is that again, she
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  Speaker 3: was not there for the whole season. She was just
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  Speaker 3: there for a short arm short term she was. She
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  Speaker 3: appeared in less than nineteen percent of the episodes. Now
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  Speaker 3: she was to appear more that she would either go
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  Speaker 3: into supporting or lead.
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  Speaker 2: Now y'all know, well, we know, y'all know, y'all know,
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  Speaker 2: y'all know. But here's the realty. This kid kills category fraud.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be the one to say it.
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  Speaker 3: Big names can't get into this category because that's been
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  Speaker 3: the thing. And also this actually helps eliminate this process.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm pretty sure James, James and me, we've all
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  Speaker 3: done this.
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  Speaker 2: Is we're like Lynnon Ashby was in. He was there, Jamus,
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  Speaker 2: he was there for six months. That's more than half
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  Speaker 2: of a year.
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  Speaker 3: So would he have been in guests performer or what
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  Speaker 3: he been in supporting that The obvious answer would be supporting,
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  Speaker 3: But because of what they submitted. It was guess right,
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  Speaker 3: so yes, yes, So it's not about the whole season anymore.
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  Speaker 1: No Brown, Roger Howard, Roger Howarth. What's his name? Oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, ian Ward. Oh yeah, he's part of the
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  Speaker 1: depending on if the show submits, right, what I'm saying
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  Speaker 1: just thinking. He was on twenty twenty five, off and on.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how many episodes, but he was on
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  Speaker 1: for a while. But he came out there telling Riot Coy, but.
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  Speaker 2: He was on. I want to say he was on
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  Speaker 2: the nineteenth.
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  Speaker 1: There you go. I'm just saying. It's kind of brand
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  Speaker 1: of sofur.
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  Speaker 2: She was, she was. I'm trying to remember because last
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  Speaker 2: because lest y'all last year is a blur, right, Okay, you.
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  Speaker 3: Remember that nobody really came back from Monica's service.
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  Speaker 2: Us.
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  Speaker 1: I mean like Pascal, the guy who plays Pascal. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: a lot so since the Latin in the last year
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  Speaker 1: or so, just.
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  Speaker 3: Break I'm just gonna break it down. It's gonna be
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  Speaker 3: Erica Slazak versus Roger Howarth. I'm guaranteed if that, because
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  Speaker 3: remember he left right and then like he came back.
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  Speaker 3: So they so I know what they did. They they
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  Speaker 3: see some people I got to give some people some credit.
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  Speaker 3: They're smart because they knew that if certain people went overboard,
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  Speaker 3: you couldn't use them as get Roger Howard is considered
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  Speaker 3: a guest performer, so they rowing them in, took them out.
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  Speaker 3: One like to live fans get right for the one
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  Speaker 3: likes to live after the show when the nominations.
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  Speaker 1: Come out, versus that will be crazy. That will be crazy. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I but I'm I'm not hating this category very much.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I'm curious how it all falls out
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  Speaker 1: this first year. Well we think we do, we go
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  Speaker 1: good choice, good choice, not good I'm just really curious
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  Speaker 1: how they really do this, because I might I'm okay
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  Speaker 1: with that. I'm okay with the nineteenber up for example. That's
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  Speaker 1: fine because that means also you could be only on
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  Speaker 1: four or five times, right, I mean, I get it.
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  Speaker 2: As long as you like let's again, as.
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  Speaker 1: Long as you're not an underfund or day player. You're
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  Speaker 1: just yes, beginning middle of the end, they said, beginning.
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  Speaker 1: So I can't. I don't mind that, and I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't mind that so much. So like, that's interesting
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  Speaker 1: things I do. But here's the next one's probably gonna
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  Speaker 1: affect me. I think, as it bounced last year, like
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  Speaker 1: this is my life just sucks. Sometimes, judging for the
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  Speaker 1: Daytime Memories has moved to a member's only model. So
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what that means, because it's in saying
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  Speaker 1: judges who are members of either NATAS, the Television Academy
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  Speaker 1: or dual members will automatically be approved to judge members,
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  Speaker 1: and applicable categories will be a sign of do that
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  Speaker 1: after discretion of competition administrators for categories in which nadis
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  Speaker 1: is able to field a viable panel solely with member judges,
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  Speaker 1: and only of these categories, administrations were also considered judgement
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  Speaker 1: following groups one prior Emmy winners, two prior Emmy Award nominees,
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  Speaker 1: and three which I think is me those who otherwise
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  Speaker 1: meet the published membership criteria for respective peer group. But
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  Speaker 1: I'm not elected to join NADAS. They're saying natas will
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  Speaker 1: consider going back to other like what they're doing for
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  Speaker 1: coming up. So I think I'm not judging more. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I think I think I think we're asking I'm in
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  Speaker 2: that book too.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure because there's so I mean, I've been
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  Speaker 1: judging several different the children and family. This one I
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  Speaker 1: was curious. I think, I'm am I you know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: getting every email coming out, so obviously I'm sorry, I'm
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  Speaker 1: in the database. So I'm very curious what that means
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  Speaker 1: for us.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm looking.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm thinking of I'm gonna use somebody that's
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  Speaker 3: a judge that's been public. I'm gonna use my boy,
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  Speaker 3: Peter Bergman, Peter, if you're watching. Okay, So he's a
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  Speaker 3: past Emmy winner. He's likely a peer group professional, so
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  Speaker 3: he can serve as a judge if he can serve
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  Speaker 3: as if he's a member of the NATIS Intelligence Academy.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so he we we're pretty sure he is.
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  Speaker 3: If for some reason he's not, he can still be
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  Speaker 3: invited as a because he's a past winner and a
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  Speaker 3: qualified expert to judge when needed.
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  Speaker 2: So technically speaking, James, we're not out the race just yet.
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  Speaker 2: Qualified because you're qualified.
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  Speaker 3: We're both qualified experts, and we're beat on call if needed.
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  Speaker 2: So don't give up. Hope, you're still you can still
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  Speaker 2: you can still vote.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not as curios what they're gonna do. Because again,
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  Speaker 1: so folks at home, you had to follow a whole
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  Speaker 1: application to do this and submit, like your website are
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  Speaker 1: stud They wanted to know if you were somebody.
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  Speaker 2: They just want to They just want to make sure
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: you're good, right, And.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: So we obviously we got in and so that that
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: was easy. But I'm just curious what you're going forward.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be very and I'm noticing something when I
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: read the nice short version because the long version of
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: PDF ain't coming out yet.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Please don't let it come out just yet.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: I noticed that it's very industry driven this year. It's
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: more so than the previous year and the previous year
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: that and I think it's because since they want to
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: line up with the Prime Time Emmys, because again, the
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: Daytime Emmys pretty much want to break.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: It down to you.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: The Primetime Emmys is like, hey, we want to be
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: a part of this click too, So what do we
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: need to do to be taken more seriously.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: And more industry watched?
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: So that's why they're doing all of these changes to
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: fit for the industry versus just letting.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Loose and letting the goose run around.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Calls it a muck. That's what they're doing. But is
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: it going to work for them? Or work against them.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's that's a trip.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: M just just like with the lead acting on the
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: actorss category. I think this is smart, but I think
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: some people are having going to have a tough time
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: about that. And I don't know if he was going
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: to go into that category next, but.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Bring it up.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: So okay, So as we know, sometimes the categories are
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: unbalanced as far as nominations go, and some are like questioned, Right,
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: You're like, huh so this year it is not a
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: mar change, but it's kind of an interesting change. So
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: let's just say you have twenty five actors from each
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: show they enter, they do a submission. You're still looking
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: at the traditional five nominations, right, the normal Okay, however,
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: if more submit, so let's just now say forty five
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: actors submit, right. And by the way, we have not
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: heard this rule yet, and I'm pretty sure this rule
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: is gonna be okay, but we gotta remember they might
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: consider neighbors the final final season and the Bay, right,
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: the Bay did hit that twenty five count while undercount
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: for episodes to last season. We do not know if
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: they're going to put them into this category. So that's
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: why I'm actually talking about this category now.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: So let's say they got forty five.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: So the nomination count can expand the six. You got
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: to follow me so far with this. If let's just say,
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: and this is a big fifty five to sixty actors submit,
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: you'll get seven nominations or more. The more entries, the
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: higher the nominations. But I think the cutoff will only
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: be ten nominations. Again, this is just like Prime tom
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: Emmy's and the Oscars. The more entries, the more nominations,
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: the best that it's going to be more competition in
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: the category.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: And I'm not saying.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: This to be you know, but in recent years we
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: pretty much could figure I mean, we do it anyway
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: on the specials, figure out who's going to get the Emmy.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: This time is going to take it back to like
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: the nineties and early two thousands, where you had like
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: ten actors and actresses.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: All had great work, great work, and it.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: Was really tough to really say, oh, that person might
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: get it, No, that you were.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: They were all really good. Instead of if.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Maurice Bernard, by the way, how Mariese if he submits,
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: don't know, Maurice probably or the late great Tony Garry, right,
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: we all know, like Tony Gary the nomination songs, it
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: was just that a couple of times, y'all, a couple
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: of times. But that's what they're they're doing. So they're
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: trying to open the gates up legit for more nominations.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: To come through.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: And also bitched on the side is the reverse of that.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: For certain character categories have less than five or four
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: or three of them, they may eliminate the category or
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: give them a special award to say you got it
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: or merged. They're going to get that to you. So
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: refirse to you of that.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. I've been working all my life
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: for this nomination. This is gonna be.
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: A bad It's really very interesting, I think, and I
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: and I am sorry, I am. I was thinking I
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: was looking something online for us.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, it's gonna be. It's gonna be. It's gonna
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: be interesting in the fact that it's gonna be. The
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: nomination price process, I think to mus will be interesting.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Was there anything else? You know? What I mean? It's
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: gonna be, is it? Because remember we have beyond the
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Gate centering too. Yep.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: So that's what I said, Like, it's gonna be like
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: for those who were saying, oh so it's just gonna
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: be the five. No no, no, no no, they still count
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: the bay and neighbors. If they do that, think about this,
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: that's seven soaps, not five, not seven. Now will they
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: do the elimination and go from seven to four or
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: seven to three.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Like back in the day, not every soap was nominated?
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Well like last year. Mm hmmm, I look, it's seriously
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: we got about last year. People got anything now. And
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: I will say for a person who's been following the
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Emmy since he was born, but they've been all that long.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: But the boy is I've been I'm close. It was
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: almost it was almost just that there were four left
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: or file that they all got nominated. It was almost
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: just like kind of just like it was just like here, we.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: Don't want to shun, we don't want to shun anybody.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Everybody come together.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: And then when they sent and I still actually still
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: have a copy of it, when they had decided to
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: open it up to h digital saults like debate Anacostia
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: Venice where they had the four not five because it
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: was four at the time. Executive producers Ken Corda Frank
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: Valentini who was at mal Young at the time, and
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Brad Bell all signed in the breed that yes opened
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: the pie. You saw what happened. So you saw how
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: they had the Bay, they had Venis, they had all
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: these shows come on and then I think it was
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: two years ago where they changed the ruling. And I
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: feel as though they did it because of this show
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: with Beyond Salem. So Beyond Salem because it was a
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: spin off of day Joel Lives. So they can get
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: in overall, folks, the Daytime Emmys aren't just twirking and
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: tweeting things. They're reconstructing the whole entire system, from the
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: submission to the judging, to the categories, to everything. And
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: it's going to change probably who gets nominated and who
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: wins instead of an easy fix.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Ye.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: So do they're like this, no more fraud here, folks, even.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Though they're trying. I mean, it's it's it's been a
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: long road. They've been making changes. So I see they
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: have the emerging talents come back again, not the that's
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: a weird category. Uh to me, there's enough young kids today.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: They could actually do a child category. I and it's
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: enough right now on daytime from Rachel on day majority
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: of it, but Rachel and days she's a being another
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: girl playing her.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Thomas too.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: I gotta give Thomas little boyfriend Thomas. And then on Bold,
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: I mean you have you know Beth, but you also
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: have Preuemorrow.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Right right, So I'm saying there's enough. I think I understand.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: I see I don't have a problem with leaving certain
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: categories how there's not enough people or not a competition.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: I have no problem saying, well, this year we're not
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: gonna have that category. That's fine. I don't think people
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: should just be the should be just nominated because they're
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: just they're nominated, but it should be good includes the kids.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: So I can't get if they're if they're just okay,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: then yeah, don't don't have it. But there's some good
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: entries out there. Maybe you should bring it back for that,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: just for that season you're already doing, You're already making
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: work for everybody else anyway, why not anybody? Just now, look, look, people.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Got people don't got a lot of time on their hands.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I know they don't.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: I'm just kind of heard about the judging part. There's
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: three things. There's three things that I looked at and
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: I said, this is literally when I read it this morning,
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: because I got it like, I was like, okay, let
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: me read it.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: And the first thing I saw was.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: The wonderful design which James has in his background.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Like everybody thinking, look, wow, look at that.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: And by the way, everybody was commenting on the fact
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: that they said that Emmy looked.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Crooked, and I was like, no, it's just it got
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: a lot of back okay, like seriously, like they got that. Okay.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: The first thing I noticed was New York City, right,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: so this is literally me.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: I was like, this may thir I was like, new
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: York City. I didn't even look in the middle part.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: I just saw Emmy and I saw Man and I
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: was like like, okay, let me get my victation slipped out.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: I was like, and then I was like, okay, move
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: in to.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: The love, moveing to the and I thought and then
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: that's when I read everything, and I said, holy crap,
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: like they really are taking they I mean, they've been
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: saying it for the last couple of years. They were
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: gonna try to be more like the daytime, I mean
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: the Primetime Emmys. That's why they switched everything around knowing
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: that they're going to do that and knowing how it
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: was before. I don't know how fans are gonna take it.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: I don't know how. I already spoke to somebody in
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: on the soap and they're not too happy about this
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: because that's a longer period of waiting for something that
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: they're kind of trying to remember, Like they're like, what
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: did I do last year?
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: What did I do last year?
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah, you're gonna have to wait a
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: whole a couple more months and then you're gonna have
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: to get ready to submit.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: All over again for this year.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: And so I was, like I said, I was more
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: excited about the guests before, because that is exactly what
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: I've been screaming at top of I'm like, why are
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: y'all having the people that sort of been supporting in
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: this category, Like.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Y'all just knucking this up for everybody.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: The whole nonfiction drama again. I get it, but it's
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: a fan. I'm not happy about it. And I think
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: that's gonna be the same that shoot that's gonna shoot
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: them in the foot, like legit, Like, I don't think
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: that's gonna happen next year.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: I agree, I think, Saucer, I'm that one. I do.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: But but shout out to young and to Russells because
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: this is probably up your alley.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: Mid episode, show your best not about the whole season,
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: It's about what episode showed your best work.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: So follow us as we throughout the year. Well, we
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: will come on in various forms, whether it's be byself,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: us them there that whatever, as we get more Emmy news,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: because I have a fe this we're not done. There
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: might be some more. Every news coming is this is
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: major every news, so we had to come on. I
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: want to think, because you guys are are listening, I
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: see the little charts here to the show sometimes throughout
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: the year, so just check out. New episodes will come
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: out throughout the year and we will be involved. Uh
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: as you know last year we got invited back to
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: the Emmy. So I'm thinking very confidently will be back
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: again and James Lodd Junior wally back again. But if
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: I'm not, I'm saying, if I'm not, then as we
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: can this back again, I guess I can get back
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: out there again. So who knows. So we'll see. We
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: got a whole we got a whole rest of the
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: year where we're worry about that year. So that's we
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: got some time for that work on that. But any hughes.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Thank you guys for watching or listening to this. Tell
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: us what you think. We always love to hear what
• 33:36
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• 33:41
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• 33:43
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• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for you guys for that one
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: and and for us. We do our soap shows and
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: we will be there this Sunday. Yes, we know that
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: the CBS soaps are trump to CADD but when we
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: talk about they, they were both bold and why I
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: got I got comments on both, so we'll be here.
• 34:04
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• 34:06
  Speaker 1: twelve Eastern, but beyond the gates, then wind arm Bold
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: and then of course the Granddaddy. Lots to say. I'm
• 34:15
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• 34:19
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• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Bye guys,