Latest / Dollars In The Dirt / #010 - Explaining Farming Loans Like You’re 5 Years Old
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- 0:00LVR, serviceability, ad backs, security, covenants, farm
- 0:04loans are too complex. The world of farm finance is
- 0:07deliberately complicated. It's full of jargon designed to
- 0:11make you feel like you're not smart enough to understand it. But
- 0:14that's nonsense. And today, we're going to prove it. Forget
- 0:18everything you think you know about banking. In this episode, I'm
- 0:21going to explain farm loans like you're a five-year-old. No jargon,
- 0:24no complex formulas, just the simple core principles
- 0:28of how a bank decides to give you money. We're going to
- 0:32break it down into three simple parts. What
- 0:35you own, what you earn, and who you are. By the
- 0:38end of this episode, you'll understand farm finance better than
- 0:4290% of the farmers out there. And you'll finally get to see that it's
- 0:45not as complicated as everyone wants you to believe. Welcome to
- 0:49Dollars in the Dirt. I'm Brecon Curtis, and this is where we break down
- 0:52the finance side of farming so you can grow your operation, buy
- 0:55that next property, and build real wealth. Let's get into
- 0:59it. All right. Let's imagine you want to borrow some money from your friend.
- 1:03What's the first thing they'd want to know? They'd want to know if you're good
- 1:06for it. They'd want to know if you're going to pay them back. And a
- 1:09bank's no different. They're just a very, very cautious friend
- 1:13with a lot of rules. All those rules boil down to three
- 1:17simple questions. And let's call them three buckets. The
- 1:20first bucket, it's what you own. This is what the bank calls security.
- 1:24Imagine you want to borrow money to buy a new toy. Your
- 1:27mum might say, OK, but what are you going to do if you don't pay me
- 1:30back? I'm taking your favourite teddy bear. And that's what
- 1:34the bank is using as security. It's something of value that
- 1:37you promise to give them if you can't pay them back. A
- 1:40farm loan and your teddy bear, well, it's similar. It's
- 1:44the main thing the bank is interested. They want to know what it's worth and
- 1:48to find out what it's worth, they get what's called a valuation. They'll send
- 1:51an expert out to have a look at your property and understand what the
- 1:54market value is of that property. They then decide how much they're
- 1:58going to lend you against that property and that's what we call the
- 2:01loan to valuation ratio or LVR for short terms. If
- 2:05your farm's worth a million for round figures and the bank has a 60% LVR
- 2:09policy, that means they'll lend you a maximum of $600,000 against
- 2:13that property. It's really interesting to understand the different
- 2:17LVR policies amongst different banks and different asset classes and
- 2:21different locations also have an impact on the bank's policy for
- 2:25different LVRs. For example, a lot of the major banks will
- 2:28do 70% LVR on agricultural land. Some
- 2:32of them also do 60%. And interesting enough, one of the major
- 2:35agricultural banks only do 50% LVR on agricultural land.
- 2:39So depending on the value of your property and whether
- 2:42your debt level fits within your different bank's policies depends
- 2:46on whether you're going to be successful with different lenders. So it's really
- 2:49important that you work with someone that has access to all the
- 2:53different banks. to make sure that your scenario is
- 2:56matched with the right policy for the right bank because there'll
- 2:59be no good going to a bank that's got a 50% LVR policy when
- 3:03you need to borrow up to 70% to buy the property next door. That
- 3:06bank's just not gonna be able to assist you. So you're gonna have to go and find a bank that
- 3:10is actually able to assist you in that circumstance. So
- 3:13the first and most simple part of getting a loan is having something of
- 3:16value that the bank can use as security. The more valuable the land,
- 3:20the more you can potentially borrow. Bucket number two, it's
- 3:23what you earn. And this is what the bank calls serviceability. It's
- 3:27not just enough to have a valuable teddy bear. Your mum
- 3:30will also want to know if you've got enough pocket money coming in to
- 3:34be able to pay the interest on having that teddy bear and if you
- 3:37can actually afford the teddy bear. And for a farm, your pocket money
- 3:40is your profit. It's the money that you make from selling your cattle, your crops,
- 3:44minus all your expenses like your fuel, your wages,
- 3:50your fertilizer bills. And the bank wants to see if
- 3:53you have enough profit left over at the end of the year to be able
- 3:57to comfortably make the loan repayments. But here's the tricky part. The
- 4:00bank just doesn't look at the profit, they also look at your commitments. Do
- 4:04you have a car loan? Do you have a credit card? Do you have kids in
- 4:07boarding school? All of these things reduce the
- 4:11amount of pocket money you have available to pay back your loan. So
- 4:14the bank does a simple sum. They take your farm profit, and
- 4:18then they add back the non-cash items like depreciation, and
- 4:21we'll talk about that in another episode. And then they subtract all
- 4:24your other loan repayments, your personal living expenses, and
- 4:28the number that's left is what's called the surplus. And the surplus needs
- 4:31to be big enough to cover the new loan repayments with
- 4:34a healthy buffer on top. So the second part of getting a loan is
- 4:38proving that you have enough money to comfortably afford the
- 4:42repayments even if things get a bit tough. When
- 4:45it comes to capacity, it's really important that you understand your capacity and
- 4:48what actually drives a bank servicing analysis of
- 4:52your capacity. Some banks will consider cash flow
- 4:55forecasts which by looking in the rear vision mirror at your financial
- 4:59statements may not paint a very good picture of what your business
- 5:02would look like if you did buy that property or buy some more cattle or put in
- 5:06that crop. By understanding what drives serviceability in a
- 5:09bank's policy, it's important that you have that mapped
- 5:12out and able to be presented to a bank in a way
- 5:15that they can understand and make an assessment of
- 5:19your position based on the business moving forward and how
- 5:22that looks, not focusing on your financial statements and your historical performance.
- 5:26One secret guys that people often forget about in the
- 5:29capacity section is equipment finance payments. So
- 5:33having multiple equipment finance payments often add up and
- 5:36they impact people's ability to be able to service debt. So,
- 5:40you know, having a new tractor or, you know, new cars and that sort of
- 5:43thing. It's all great, but then when you want to go and buy a new
- 5:46property next door, all these payments all add up and they all. get
- 5:50taken into account in your servicing capacity. So being aware
- 5:54that buying a new car might have a detrimental impact
- 5:57on buying the property next door. It's just understanding all
- 6:01those different repayments. You might think it's only $1,000 a month,
- 6:04but if you've got three or four of them, before you know it, it's $4,000 or
- 6:07$5,000 a month. And that adds up over time and also reduces
- 6:11your borrowing capacity. Just quickly, if you're tired of explaining your operation
- 6:15to a new bank manager every year, only to get a one-size-fits-all deal
- 6:19that doesn't fit your business, we can help. At Season Finance, we
- 6:22do things differently. We've got over 70 years of combined experience
- 6:26in agricultural lending, and we work for you, not the banks. We're
- 6:29the consistent expert team in your corner, fighting to get the finance
- 6:33that actually helps you grow, purchase the next property, and
- 6:36build your legacy. Don't leave money on the table. If you're looking at your
- 6:39next move or just want a second opinion on your current setup, Click the link
- 6:42in the show notes to book a confidential, no obligation chat with
- 6:45the team and we'll show you what's possible. Righto guys, now back to
- 6:48the episode. Bucket number three, well, this is what the bank calls character.
- 6:52This is who you are and probably the most important bucket of
- 6:56all. It's the one that people often forget about. Your mom just
- 6:59isn't looking at your teddy bear and your pocket money. She's looking at
- 7:03you. She's looking at you to say, are you a good kid? Do
- 7:06you keep your promises? And do you pay back your loans in the past? The
- 7:10bank's exactly the same. They want to know if you're a trustworthy person.
- 7:14They look at your history. They look at your credit checks, your missed loan
- 7:18repayments. Do you pay your bills on time? Do you have a good credit
- 7:21score? They also look at your experience. How long you've been a farmer for?
- 7:25Do you have a good track record of running a profitable business? And
- 7:28do you have a clear plan for the future? They look at how you
- 7:32present yourself. Is your paperwork neat and tidy? Are your numbers accurate?
- 7:36Do you come across professional and an organized person? Or
- 7:39are you a messy and disorganized? If you have a great teddy bear,
- 7:43lots of pocket money, and your mom thinks you're a bit of a rascal who
- 7:46doesn't keep their promises, she's probably not going to
- 7:50lend you the money. A bank's no different. They want
- 7:54to lend money to good, reliable people who
- 7:57do what they say they're going to do. Guys, this one is hard to measure. There's
- 8:00no metrics around character. It's your personal reputation that's
- 8:04being assessed here. Often a bank manager will do some background digging
- 8:07on a person. They will talk to different people, try
- 8:11and find out about someone if they don't know them. So it's really important
- 8:14that you understand that has a big impact on your borrowing ability is
- 8:18your personal reputation and what that means for a bank and
- 8:21making sure that you pay back your loans and that you're a good customer for
- 8:25a bank. So let's recap. It's that simple. To
- 8:28get a farm loan, you need to satisfy the bank in three
- 8:31areas. What you own. You need to have valuable assets
- 8:35like land to use as security. What you earn. You
- 8:39have to have enough profit to comfortably make the repayments. And
- 8:43finally, who you are. You need to be trustworthy, experienced, and a
- 8:46professional person. And that's it. That's the whole game. All
- 8:50the jargon, all the complicated forms, all the meetings,
- 8:53it all comes back to these three simple buckets. So the next
- 8:57time you're thinking about applying for a loan, don't get bogged down
- 9:00in the complexity. Just ask yourself these three questions. Am
- 9:04I strong in all three buckets? And if not, which one do
- 9:07I need to work on? Because when you understand the game, you
- 9:10can start to win. Thanks for tuning in to Dollars in the Dirt. If
- 9:14you've got value from today's episode, make sure to subscribe so
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- 9:20being just another number to the banks, visit Season Finance via
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