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👀 Is This Football Malpractice? 🏈 Chuck Mullins Breaks Down Myles Garrett & Deshaun Watson · Out of Bounds with Bo Bounds

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  Speaker 1: M trying to find some recruits. You have a saying
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  Speaker 2: Our next guest seats off the floor every single day
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  Speaker 2: for his clients. Chuck Mullin's attorney at law, Attorney to
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  Speaker 2: the Stars, Cleveland Brown's super fan, joins us on the
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  Speaker 2: Out of Bounds show ESPN one oh five nine The Zone.
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  Speaker 2: Chuck Mullins, Good morning, How the hell are you?
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  Speaker 1: I'm good man. I was gonna give you a macho
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  Speaker 1: man just and you kind of pumped me up, but
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  Speaker 1: I backed off. You backed but it's too early.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well you're probably ordering a Drew Locke Jersey. Isn't
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  Speaker 2: he gonna start for the Browns this year at quarterback?
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  Speaker 1: You know, the season is not even starred. Who knows, man,
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  Speaker 1: We're just kind of you know, we're taking applications now,
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  Speaker 1: so you know, it will take anybody that looks like
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  Speaker 1: they can throw football.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I thought, like, y'all make a play
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  Speaker 2: for Tua, who's wildly overrated. You know, somebody like that
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  Speaker 2: would be perfect for y'all. Kind of following up the
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  Speaker 2: Deshaun disaster.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the Deshaun disaster is it's probably going to
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  Speaker 1: be taught in sports business classes in the future. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: how not to do things? Wow. And you look, I
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  Speaker 1: know you're calling me about Miles Garrett. And I think
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  Speaker 1: that that disaster led to where we are today.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, walk me through that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, of course, you take us back to
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  Speaker 1: four years ago in the spring of twenty twenty two
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  Speaker 1: when we acquired Deshaun and the trade and essentially said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, made the I think that at that time.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of laughable now, but at that time, the
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  Speaker 1: Browns were they just came off losing to the Chiefs
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  Speaker 1: the year before in the playoffs, and they had that
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  Speaker 1: injury played quarterback season with Baker in twenty twenty one.
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  Speaker 1: So twenty twenty two, all the pieces were there on
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  Speaker 1: offense and defensive stout and so they needed that quarterback
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  Speaker 1: and Deshaun Watson was there, and they they sacrificed their
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  Speaker 1: entire franchise at that point with the three first round
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  Speaker 1: picks and I think several other second round picks for
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  Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, hoping he would be the guy. And when
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  Speaker 1: that didn't train up in now four years later, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it was a disaster, as you say, and in order
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  Speaker 1: to restart, they're gonna they trade their best player, arguably
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  Speaker 1: the one of the best players in the league, definitely
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  Speaker 1: best defensive player and to try to get back to
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  Speaker 1: what they were trying to get four years ago. And
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  Speaker 1: so that's why I say, had that not happened with DeShawn,
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  Speaker 1: and we would be in much better shape with Baker Mayfield.
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  Speaker 1: And I hate to say that. I hate to be
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  Speaker 1: that guy, but I'm going to be that guy. If
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  Speaker 1: you would just had his quarterback play for the last
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  Speaker 1: three or four years, he'd be a totally different franchise.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and it's and it's if you look at
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  Speaker 1: the Browns, it's all for the last three years, it's
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  Speaker 1: not only been ineffective quarterback play, but Deshawn's not even
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  Speaker 1: been on the field, you know. Last year he missed completely.
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  Speaker 1: The first year, he was suspended the first eleven games.
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  Speaker 1: And it's so it's it's you. You haven't even got
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  Speaker 1: the product that you you know, you purchase. You go
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  Speaker 1: in there and you get the shiny toy when you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna take it home and play with it, but you
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  Speaker 1: break it in the car, you know what I mean. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and that's kind of and we didn't even get a
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  Speaker 1: chance to see what it looks like. And and you
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  Speaker 1: essentially squandered the best defense, one of the best defenses
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  Speaker 1: in the league for the last you know, half decade
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  Speaker 1: with with in that quarterback. I used to put a
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  Speaker 1: like to call it, you know, football malpractice, and it
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  Speaker 1: is what it is.
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  Speaker 2: That is fantastic. Chuck Mullins, Cleveland Brown super fan football
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  Speaker 2: malpractice again in Cleveland, And uh, I can't believe, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I understand the off the field stuff. I can't believe
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  Speaker 2: that he wasn't able to. Yeah, guys have been through
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  Speaker 2: Guys have been through much worse and come back and
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  Speaker 2: played at a high level in the NFL. Chuck, I'm
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  Speaker 2: surprised he didn't. God, he was so good at Clemson.
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  Speaker 2: Then he showed signs of really having that pop in
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  Speaker 2: with the Texans and they've been a little dysfunctional, especially
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  Speaker 2: on that side of the ball. Aren't you surprised he
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  Speaker 2: didn't turn the corner?
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  Speaker 1: Chuck, Well, I am until you delve into what everybody
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  Speaker 1: out there who still plays recreational sports like golf or
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  Speaker 1: me at buyon highball lanes every Tuesday night. You get
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  Speaker 1: into your own head, right, you know, you've done this
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  Speaker 1: stuff for years. You're at the top of your profession
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  Speaker 1: Sean Watson. But then there's that insta, that mental aspect
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  Speaker 1: of the game, and that was it for him. I
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  Speaker 1: think the year off in Houston where he was completely
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  Speaker 1: kept off the field for you know, not in football reasons,
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  Speaker 1: the stuff he went through with the media, it was
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  Speaker 1: constantly in his head. God knows what he was going
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  Speaker 1: through in his personal life, which he brought on himself,
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  Speaker 1: by the way. I'm not saying he was a victim,
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  Speaker 1: but I think all of that came to rest on
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  Speaker 1: the field. He could not get passed, he couldn't get
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  Speaker 1: out of his own head. So the talent was always there,
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  Speaker 1: but the mistakes that we saw him make on the field. Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: I just was thinking about one play in particular where
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  Speaker 1: he threw it back you know, it was against the Bengals.
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  Speaker 1: He literally threw the ball backwards halfway across the field
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, what what I mean? I had
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  Speaker 1: I used to coach Madison, original youth football man, and
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  Speaker 1: my kids never did anything like that, and I was thinking,
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  Speaker 1: my god, that's not something somebody does who has been
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  Speaker 1: like to your point, who is a stud at Clemsons,
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  Speaker 1: who is a stud in the NFL? And it's just
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  Speaker 1: like And so I think it goes back to the
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  Speaker 1: mental aspect of the game, which you know is getting
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  Speaker 1: more appreciated now, but it explains a lot of the
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  Speaker 1: when when when star athletes kind of aren't stars anymore
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  Speaker 1: and have all the tools, I think it goes to
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  Speaker 1: the mental problem. And I think that's and that's very difficult,
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  Speaker 1: as you know, and uh, when you got it in
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  Speaker 1: your head, you've got the yips. Look how many baseball.
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  Speaker 2: Players, no question, and golfers like you mentioned, no doubt.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it just gets in there and you and it sucks.
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  Speaker 1: It really does if you've experienced it. I've experienced it,
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  Speaker 1: and it sucks. And I think that's what we're looking
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  Speaker 1: at with DeShawn. But getting back, I think the trade, unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I think it was the best thing the
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  Speaker 1: Browns could do. I think the Rams are going to
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  Speaker 1: be I would not want to play those guys this year. Offensively,
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  Speaker 1: they were number one in the NFL. Defensively they were fourth,
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  Speaker 1: and pressure rating and yeah, exactly, and guess who they're getting.
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  Speaker 1: So their defenses top half of the league, and I
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  Speaker 1: expect them to just be you know, barring injury and
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  Speaker 1: knock on wood, I don't want anybody to get hurt.
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  Speaker 1: They're gonna be a really fun team to watch. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm happy for Miles nine years with Cleveland,
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  Speaker 1: and you know all you did was, you know, he
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  Speaker 1: was our guy week in week out. He was the
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  Speaker 1: Joe Thomas.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, y'all have gone through two Hall of Famers
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  Speaker 2: and not gotten anything out of.
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  Speaker 1: It, you see. And that's the point. Bo. You know,
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  Speaker 1: We've had the All Pro Hall of Fame left tackle
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  Speaker 1: and then you got this guy, the stud, and he
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  Speaker 1: didn't produce the wins. So I'd rather have eleven, you know,
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  Speaker 1: good average, the good players than the one superstar. And
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  Speaker 1: I think, you know, it was great having Miles, great
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  Speaker 1: having Joe Thomas, but I think again, going back to
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  Speaker 1: the football malpractice, you have to do more.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough, Chuck Mullins on the Out of Bound show,
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  Speaker 2: Cleveland Brown super fan attorney at law and uh, well,
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  Speaker 2: we'll see who Cleveland's going to start at quarterback this
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  Speaker 2: year and who they could get maybe down the line.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks Chuck, be good buddy.
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  Speaker 1: Later God take care of a good weekend.
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