Latest / Classic Metal Show / Fans Really Aren’t Agreeing On This 2012!
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- 0:00SPEAKER_02: Hi, this is Chris Poland, and you're watching CMS TV.
- 0:20SPEAKER_00: Alright, let's jump into some metal experts and knock out this show here.
- 0:24SPEAKER_00: Alright, let's do it.
- 0:29SPEAKER_01: Here to bring you some knowledge, it's THE METAL EXPERTS!
- 0:37SPEAKER_01: Never in music history have two people been so intelligent!
- 0:47SPEAKER_02: These guys know that Zach Wilde plays guitar!
- 0:50SPEAKER_02: You gotta be kidding me!
- 0:54SPEAKER_02: Ozzy Osbourne was in Black Sabbath?
- 0:56SPEAKER_02: You yanked my chain, dude!
- 1:00You gotta be kidding me Britney Spears isn't metal Man those
- 1:04guys are brilliant
- 1:06Here they are The Bastions of Knowledge Professors Mark and
- 1:11John The Metal Experts
- 1:21what's really funny is that you cut that bumper with your kids
- 1:25and they're grown
- 1:27men now yeah no they're fucking full of adults now it's so
- 1:31funny it is they're like
- 1:34SPEAKER_00: what 12,
- 1:3513 years old at that point yeah when they did that sure and you
- 1:39know now they're
- 1:39SPEAKER_00: 18,
- 1:4019 years old yeah exactly holy shit that's hysterical I'm
- 1:46taking a beating here on
- 1:47SPEAKER_02: this fucking I should have never brought up this thing Lord
- 1:52SPEAKER_00: Gayhookup.com I still like the whole Chriswantsanal.com Janewantsdick.com
- 2:02SPEAKER_00: Gayhookup.com Jesus Oh boy Anyway,
- 2:08SPEAKER_00: Talking Metal Well,
- 2:09apparently Weezy sent this over and this was actually a recap
- 2:15of The Fish Fest
- 2:18the catfish festival that Red and Jerry called us from a few
- 2:23weeks ago right oh by
- 2:25the way when are we going to announce the winner of the of the
- 2:30Photoshop contest
- 2:32why don't we do that next week since I totally forgot about it
- 2:34okay so whoever
- 2:37let's just put it this way you got from now until next week to
- 2:41enter your Photoshop
- 2:42SPEAKER_00: for the John Astronomy Photoshop right
- 2:46and we'll pick a winner next week on the show facebook.com
- 2:49slash thecms right all
- 2:52right well here we go let's let's see what the metal experts
- 2:55have to say about the
- 2:56fish fest all right wonder if they'll talk about red and jerry
- 3:00maybe what in the
- 3:06SPEAKER_01: hell what happened gee whiz
- 3:17SPEAKER_00: Once again,
- 3:18if I was Bud Friendly or whatever the hell that guy's name is
- 3:24and I turn that over
- 3:25SPEAKER_00: to you,
- 3:25SPEAKER_00: would you put that on your podcast?
- 3:28SPEAKER_00: No.
- 3:28SPEAKER_00: No.
- 3:29SPEAKER_00: You would go, this sucks, I'm not making this a part of my podcast.
- 3:32SPEAKER_00: Do it again, dick.
- 3:33SPEAKER_03: Rourke, Wiz is talking metal and here are your hosts, Mark and Jen.
- 3:41SPEAKER_03: Gee, Wiz.
- 3:42SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 3:42SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 3:55SPEAKER_02: Horrible.
- 3:56SPEAKER_02: I mean, really?
- 3:58SPEAKER_02: Sounds terrible.
- 3:59SPEAKER_02: I wonder if he thinks he sounds good.
- 4:00SPEAKER_02: That's what I wonder.
- 4:02SPEAKER_02: God.
- 4:03SPEAKER_02: Dude, this fucking rules.
- 4:04SPEAKER_02: You gotta hear this.
- 4:05SPEAKER_02: That's great, dude.
- 4:09SPEAKER_02: I would never put that out.
- 4:13How many times have we cut shit to do bumpers and we cut them
- 4:16fucking 50 times
- 4:17SPEAKER_02: before we That's not good,
- 4:19SPEAKER_02: that's shit,
- 4:20we're not doing that I mean even if we stumble on one word
- 4:24we're redoing the line
- 4:28SPEAKER_02: Horrible
- 4:32SPEAKER_01: Yo, thanks Bud Friendly.
- 4:33SPEAKER_01: Hey Mark, how are you?
- 4:34SPEAKER_01: I'm so glad to be back on Talking Metal.
- 4:37SPEAKER_03: Yes, it's great to be back with you guys.
- 4:40SPEAKER_03: We are here, as Bud Friendly said, at Billy Mark's Tavern.
- 4:44And I was just given the wrong change at the bar and I did the
- 4:49right thing and
- 4:49SPEAKER_03: returned the money.
- 4:50SPEAKER_01: Is somebody in the way?
- 4:58SPEAKER_00: There's a moral lesson that we learn here, boys and girls.
- 5:03SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
- 5:04If somebody gives you the wrong change and you end up on the
- 5:07good side of the
- 5:08SPEAKER_00: dollar,
- 5:09SPEAKER_00: return it because that karma is a bitch if you don't.
- 5:13SPEAKER_02: That's right.
- 5:14Don't use it to buy more fucking liquor to drink with while
- 5:16your kid is sleeping.
- 5:20SPEAKER_00: That's how they start their podcast.
- 5:22SPEAKER_00: I was given the wrong change, so I did the right thing and I returned it.
- 5:26SPEAKER_02: Aren't you a good Samaritan?
- 5:28SPEAKER_02: Douchebag.
- 5:31SPEAKER_01: Do your broadcast, man.
- 5:37SPEAKER_01: Just pick it up.
- 5:37SPEAKER_01: What?
- 5:38SPEAKER_03: That is dumping.
- 5:42SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we were here a few months ago.
- 5:44SPEAKER_03: I had a great podcast.
- 5:45SPEAKER_03: John, Mark, and Bud Friendly hanging out.
- 5:48SPEAKER_00: So it's good to be back.
- 5:49SPEAKER_00: I wonder if he wore his pseudo-Superman outfit.
- 5:55SPEAKER_00: Complete with the ski mask.
- 5:57SPEAKER_02: Yeah, nice.
- 6:00SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Bud Friendly, if he comes in looking like a fucking gay wrestler.
- 6:03SPEAKER_02: Nice.
- 6:10MOL they're fucking hammered no kidding yeah you will see the
- 6:15three of us hopefully
- 6:16sooner than later in episode two of Talking Metal Pirate Radio
- 6:20still waiting to
- 6:20hear back from Jay Bones our friend his cell phone's dead what
- 6:25is it with everybody
- 6:26and their stupid names Jay Bones here Jay Bones everybody's got
- 6:32a stupid radio name
- 6:34SPEAKER_00: or some kind of a professional name
- 6:38SPEAKER_00: What is with this distorted audio?
- 6:40SPEAKER_02: Well, you know, it's like the most...
- 7:04Again,
- 7:04if that was you and I doing this and it came out like shit,
- 7:07would we put that out there?
- 7:09SPEAKER_02: Absolutely not.
- 7:09SPEAKER_00: No, we'd go, you know, the audio was shit.
- 7:12SPEAKER_00: Sorry, we lost the episode.
- 7:14SPEAKER_02: Done.
- 7:14SPEAKER_02: Goodbye.
- 7:16SPEAKER_03: Jay, please.
- 7:18SPEAKER_03: Please give us a ring.
- 7:20SPEAKER_03: That's not true.
- 7:21SPEAKER_03: He doesn't have all the footage, but he has all the good stuff.
- 7:24SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm sure he just jammed up.
- 7:25SPEAKER_03: Maybe he went on vacation or something.
- 7:27SPEAKER_03: I've got to check to see if he's at work.
- 7:29SPEAKER_03: the crib-style tour of John's apartment, which I saw a rough cut of.
- 7:33SPEAKER_03: He did finish that, and it was great.
- 7:35SPEAKER_02: Oh, I cannot wait to see that.
- 7:38SPEAKER_02: Who?
- 7:38SPEAKER_02: J-Bones.
- 7:40SPEAKER_02: J-Bones shot a Cribs episode at John's apartment?
- 7:43SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 7:44SPEAKER_00: I am fucking on the edge of my seat to get that one.
- 7:48SPEAKER_00: Yeah, one-room apartment in some ramshackled building.
- 7:53SPEAKER_00: With fog machines.
- 7:55SPEAKER_00: God.
- 8:00SPEAKER_03: We are drinking beer and we're going to do a big toast right now.
- 8:04SPEAKER_03: Cool.
- 8:06SPEAKER_03: They call it champagne here.
- 8:07SPEAKER_03: Yeah, champagne.
- 8:08SPEAKER_03: Champagne.
- 8:09SPEAKER_03: It's actually Miller High Life.
- 8:14SPEAKER_00: Really?
- 8:16SPEAKER_00: It's not Don Perignon?
- 8:19SPEAKER_00: No.
- 8:20SPEAKER_00: Don Perignon.
- 8:25SPEAKER_00: I love this distorted audio.
- 8:27SPEAKER_02: It's fantastic.
- 8:30established 1903 the champagne of beer that's why they call it
- 8:34champagne thanks for
- 8:38that fun fact John thank you John you're a smart guy that's why
- 8:43they call it
- 8:44SPEAKER_00: champagne it sure is champagne of beer
- 8:50the beer that made Milwaukee famous that's true yes definitely
- 8:54I like Milwaukee by
- 8:55the way I know that you have a Wisconsin connection right I
- 8:58lived in Mequon
- 8:59Wisconsin it's about 20 minutes north of Milwaukee 25 minutes
- 9:03north yeah yeah I
- 9:04like Milwaukee the hotel there it's kind of got an odd name the
- 9:08Pfister yeah but
- 9:09it's not that's something you experience in your one room
- 9:15apartment by the gay guy
- 9:17SPEAKER_00: at the corner every every day
- 9:19Maybe there's a reason that you were booked there and Ace was
- 9:21booked up The Fister
- 9:24SPEAKER_02: John,
- 9:25SPEAKER_02: you'll be staying at the Fister tonight Oh,
- 9:26SPEAKER_02: again?
- 9:27SPEAKER_02: No, really?
- 9:30Do tell Oh,
- 9:31good I'll be staying at the Fister Where are we going to eat
- 9:35dinner?
- 9:36SPEAKER_02: Lube Stop?
- 9:39SPEAKER_02: The Fister The Fister Wow
- 9:45like with F-I-S-T-E-R it's P-F-I-S-T-E-R it's a great hotel
- 9:52Fister yeah let's make
- 9:53that clear it's not F-I-S-T-E-R it's not like a fist went up my
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- 10:35SPEAKER_03: Sounds pornographic.
- 10:36SPEAKER_03: Yeah, sounds like a lot of porn action.
- 10:39SPEAKER_03: Sounds like something I saw in the Scrambled Porn Network.
- 10:43remember that TV show that you never watched you never watched
- 10:47that I was just
- 10:48kidding about that I was just joking I never watched that these
- 10:58guys I'm telling
- 10:59SPEAKER_00: you what they're dopes they're just idiots
- 11:07SPEAKER_01: Yeah,
- 11:07SPEAKER_01: the Fister's great Yeah,
- 11:09SPEAKER_01: the movie I saw,
- 11:10SPEAKER_01: it was the same spelling,
- 11:12SPEAKER_01: but it was called The P-Fister What?
- 11:18SPEAKER_00: I don't get it The P-Fister?
- 11:20SPEAKER_00: What is that?
- 11:21SPEAKER_00: Is that Bud Friendly, or is that John just mimicking him?
- 11:25SPEAKER_00: That's Bud Friendly Did you hear the bad voice?
- 11:28SPEAKER_00: The P-Fister P-Fister
- 11:33SPEAKER_01: Very good There's an old hotel that's kind of a reminder
- 11:38There's an old hotel that kind of reminds you of The Shining
- 11:41and then there's a
- 11:42SPEAKER_01: high-rise right next to it and they make the best Bloody Marys there.
- 11:46SPEAKER_01: It's got a slim jim and some cheese in it.
- 11:48SPEAKER_03: You were in Milwaukee recently?
- 11:50SPEAKER_01: Not recently.
- 11:51SPEAKER_01: Actually, you know where I was?
- 11:52SPEAKER_01: In Green Bay recently.
- 11:55SPEAKER_03: I've been there too.
- 11:56SPEAKER_01: Yeah,
- 11:56I was in Green Bay recently but I've been in Milwaukee twice
- 12:00last year and stayed
- 12:02SPEAKER_01: at the Pfister.
- 12:03SPEAKER_01: The Pfister.
- 12:08The Hotel of Choice by John Astronomy The Fister This is Bud
- 12:10Friendly and this is
- 12:10John Astronomy staying at the Fister This is Bud Friendly and
- 12:14this is Bud Friendly
- 12:15and this is Bud Friendly and this is Bud Friendly and this is
- 12:16Bud Friendly and this
- 12:17is Bud Friendly and this is Bud Friendly and this is Bud
- 12:18Friendly and Bud Friendly
- 12:19and Bud Friendly and Bud Friendly and Bud Friendly and Bud
- 12:21Friendly and Bud
- 12:21Friendly and Bud Friendly and Bud Friendly and Bud Friendly and
- 12:22Bud Friendly and
- 12:23Bud Friendly and Bud Friendly and Bud Friendly and Bud Friendly
- 12:24and Bud Friendly
- 12:25and Bud Friendly and Bud Friendly and Bud Friendly and Bud
- 12:26Friendly and Bud
- 12:26Friendly and Bud Friendly and Bud Friendly and Bud Friendly and
- 12:30Bud Friendly and
- 12:31Bud Friendly and Bud Friendly and Bud Friendly and Bud Friendly
- 12:33and Bud Friendly
- 12:33and Bud Friendly and Bud Friendly and Bud Friendly and Bud
- 12:35Friendly and Bud
- 12:35SPEAKER_00: Friendly and Bud Friendly and Bud Friendly and Bud Friendly and Bud
- 12:38SPEAKER_02: because of that name, dude.
- 12:40SPEAKER_02: It's pretty crazy.
- 12:41SPEAKER_02: That name, I bet he took a picture in front of the sign The Fister.
- 12:44SPEAKER_03: A little Killswitch Engage right now.
- 12:49SPEAKER_03: You know Howard from Killswitch Engage?
- 12:51SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 12:51SPEAKER_03: He's not in the band anymore.
- 12:52SPEAKER_03: Right, right.
- 12:53He came to the dinner with us when we were out in Long Beach
- 12:57and we had fajitas and
- 12:58SPEAKER_01: I gave mine to...
- 13:00SPEAKER_01: Yeah,
- 13:02SPEAKER_01: I gave my leftovers to one of the other guys.
- 13:04SPEAKER_01: I don't remember which one took it home in a doggy bag.
- 13:08SPEAKER_00: It's quite a story, John.
- 13:11SPEAKER_00: Wow.
- 13:11I gave my leftovers to one of those guys and they took it home
- 13:15in a doggy bag.
- 13:16SPEAKER_00: Dude, let me tell you a story.
- 13:18SPEAKER_02: I didn't share this one about the Dokken show that we went to.
- 13:21SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 13:22SPEAKER_02: You might remember this.
- 13:22SPEAKER_02: It's quite a story.
- 13:23SPEAKER_02: You ready?
- 13:25SPEAKER_02: So, we were backstage.
- 13:27SPEAKER_02: You might remember this.
- 13:27Do you remember us being backstage in the dressing room after
- 13:30Dokken played?
- 13:30SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely.
- 13:31SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
- 13:32you know they had all kinds of food laid out there you know
- 13:35like fajitas and pizza
- 13:36and stuff that was laid out on the table and they let you have
- 13:41a piece of pizza
- 13:43that's my story okay thanks thanks for sharing I gave my
- 13:50sandwich to somebody how
- 13:51SPEAKER_02: is that a fucking story
- 13:53SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I gave it to one of those guys.
- 13:55SPEAKER_02: One of those guys?
- 13:56SPEAKER_02: What does that mean?
- 13:57SPEAKER_02: Is it one of the fucking people working at the venue?
- 13:59SPEAKER_02: Is it somebody in a band?
- 14:00SPEAKER_02: What band?
- 14:01SPEAKER_02: Since you said the guy's not in the band anymore.
- 14:03SPEAKER_02: What kind of story is this?
- 14:07SPEAKER_03: Yes, I vaguely remember that too.
- 14:09SPEAKER_03: The nice guys.
- 14:10SPEAKER_03: Anyways, let's get into a little music right now.
- 14:12SPEAKER_03: We'll come back and talk some more metal.
- 14:14SPEAKER_03: This is Killswitch Engage with Howard.
- 14:17SPEAKER_00: Have they talked any metal yet?
- 14:19SPEAKER_00: What metal have they talked?
- 14:20SPEAKER_00: Yeah, let's talk more.
- 14:22they talked about getting fisted and that's all I heard the gay
- 14:26fister the gay
- 14:28fister that's all I heard the fister was hungry on vocals and
- 14:35the song is Desperate
- 14:36Times that was Desperate Times by Killswitch Engage and you're
- 14:44listening to Talking
- 14:45SPEAKER_00: Metal
- 14:48horrendous they just take this guy around with them just so he
- 14:52can go he's probably
- 14:56the one that pays gotta be how is this guy even relevant to
- 15:01anything because he
- 15:03pays the fucking bar tab okay yeah this is great getting
- 15:09together after work yeah
- 15:11SPEAKER_01: yeah go ahead I got a quick question to bud friendly
- 15:16what can I do for you people hang out at this place obviously
- 15:22I'm sitting with two
- 15:23of them what is this guy's claim to fame that he can go
- 15:38seriously I think fame is a
- 15:40SPEAKER_02: big word for that guy dude come on the bull
- 15:44now here's what I was referring to people that look like one
- 15:47thing but they're
- 15:48really another thing that's the after midnight crowd oh okay
- 15:54Billy Marks I will be
- 15:56back after midnight no he's just kidding just kidding yeah
- 16:00anyway yeah I was at
- 16:01this other place that's if Emily lets you back out of the house
- 16:04once you get home
- 16:05that's right once the kids are asleep he can get all fucked up
- 16:10at home why does he
- 16:11SPEAKER_02: gotta go back out right
- 16:14down on 8th and maybe about 20th and my girlfriend said that
- 16:20this one person who
- 16:21SPEAKER_01: was John has a girlfriend?
- 16:23His name's Butch His name is The Fister That's what they
- 16:29factually call him The
- 16:30Fister That's where I really was in my boyfriend's apartment I
- 16:35mean my girlfriend
- 16:37SPEAKER_01: There
- 16:38SPEAKER_01: wasn't what they may have seemed to be.
- 16:41SPEAKER_01: Hmm.
- 16:42SPEAKER_01: Very good.
- 16:43SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 16:44SPEAKER_02: What?
- 16:45SPEAKER_02: That was very good.
- 16:46SPEAKER_02: Very good story.
- 16:47SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right.
- 16:48SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 16:50SPEAKER_02: Thanks.
- 16:51SPEAKER_03: Thanks a lot.
- 16:52SPEAKER_03: Very bad, depending on the situation.
- 16:55SPEAKER_03: But we are just sitting here.
- 16:57SPEAKER_03: We're playing some metal.
- 16:58SPEAKER_03: We'll get into a little Gamma Ray right now.
- 17:01SPEAKER_03: Gamma Ray?
- 17:02SPEAKER_00: Did he say Gamma Ray?
- 17:04SPEAKER_00: Gamma Ray.
- 17:04SPEAKER_00: Gamma Ray.
- 17:06SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 17:07SPEAKER_00: I thought it was Gamma Ray.
- 17:08oh that's how I've always known it Gamma Ray Gamma Ray I guess
- 17:13he's never heard of
- 17:14a Gamma Ray no I guess not short as hell time is short as hell
- 17:21that's a message for
- 17:22you guys a good life lesson it's a what it's a good life lesson
- 17:30how is that a life
- 17:31SPEAKER_02: lesson because time is short as hell that's a good life lesson right okay
- 17:37SPEAKER_02: I guess you don't need to explain that part.
- 17:38SPEAKER_00: Just go with it.
- 17:40SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 17:42SPEAKER_00: Look at Aora rocks.
- 17:43SPEAKER_00: G-H-A-M-A-R-A.
- 17:47SPEAKER_00: Was a Japanese turtle.
- 17:531999 album Power Plant which features cover art by the one and
- 17:56only Derek Riggs
- 17:58Derek Riggs of Iron Maiden fame did all the Iron Maiden album
- 18:02covers he does the
- 18:04cover art on the Power Plant record by Gamma Ray this is short
- 18:10as hell Gamma Ray
- 18:13SPEAKER_02: Gamma Ray
- 18:15I don't think I've ever heard anyone ever call it Gamma Ray
- 18:19Gamma Ray come on Gamma
- 18:22Gamma yeah they didn't they open for Dio at one point they
- 18:28played for Duncan they
- 18:30opened for Duncan and Dio Gamma Ray Gamma Ray that was short as
- 18:40hell by Gamma Ray
- 18:42SPEAKER_03: you're listening to talk
- 18:50a good life lesson for all you assholes who are listening to
- 18:53this podcast why are
- 18:56you wasting the shortest hell life that you have listening to
- 19:00this bullshit funny
- 19:11SPEAKER_01: Now back to two questionable individuals, Mark and John.
- 19:16SPEAKER_00: That's the only thing he's ever gotten right.
- 19:18SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 19:20SPEAKER_00: Two questionable individuals.
- 19:22SPEAKER_00: Got that right there, bud.
- 19:24SPEAKER_01: I wonder if Gamma Ray was influenced by the Incredible Hulk at all.
- 19:30SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
- 19:30SPEAKER_01: You know, they have gamma rays.
- 19:33SPEAKER_00: Now, why is John saying it correctly?
- 19:36because maybe he's the only one that knows the real weird way
- 19:39to say it because
- 19:40they have gamma rays on the Incredible Hulk well apparently
- 19:44Mark never heard of
- 19:45that and apparently Bud Friendly was even more clueless he said
- 19:51it correctly yeah
- 19:53SPEAKER_02: he got it right look at Nathan gummy ray gummy ray
- 20:00turn into the hulk it could be could be definitely and like I
- 20:03know that you've
- 20:04already heard this but I'm gonna run it by Guns N' Roses how
- 20:09the residency yeah
- 20:10residency in Las Vegas I tell you my thoughts on that are are
- 20:16it's probably a good
- 20:16thing for them you know I'm school this and this is why I think
- 20:20these these
- 20:21residencies at the casinos in Vegas could potentially reach
- 20:26people who might not
- 20:27SPEAKER_03: normally go to see
- 20:30Guns N' Roses or the new guns as some people refer to them and
- 20:35and I think this
- 20:36will be a good you know for people who maybe are staying at
- 20:40that hotel or in town
- 20:41hey Guns N' Roses are playing hey we know Slash isn't in the
- 20:44band but we're here in
- 20:45Vegas and we used to love Guns N' Roses where does that
- 20:50philosophy come from wrong
- 20:52they still have to buy the ticket and they still have to go if
- 20:55they're gonna go
- 20:58maybe if you're high rolling you get comped a couple of tickets
- 21:01but let's be honest
- 21:05those people that are in Vegas they don't know that Slash is
- 21:08not in the band they
- 21:09don't know Slash's name they're not even reasoning that out we
- 21:14know Slash is not in
- 21:15the band but what the fuck it's Guns N' Roses let's go they
- 21:19don't even know
- 21:20anything past they probably don't know the name Axl Rose they
- 21:24probably just know
- 21:25SPEAKER_02: the name Guns N' Roses right
- 21:27SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's the casino crowd.
- 21:29SPEAKER_00: They're not fucking metalheads.
- 21:31They're not sitting there reasoning out why they should go or
- 21:34why they shouldn't go.
- 21:35SPEAKER_00: They're like, oh, I got tickets to this.
- 21:37SPEAKER_00: I'm there.
- 21:39SPEAKER_00: Or I'm not.
- 21:40SPEAKER_02: Blue-haired old ladies love GNR.
- 21:42SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 21:46SPEAKER_00: Evil Batman.
- 21:47SPEAKER_00: Never heard anyone refer to them as the new guns.
- 21:50SPEAKER_00: Me either.
- 21:51SPEAKER_00: Me either.
- 21:53let's go check them out and I think they will be pleasantly
- 21:56surprised by what they
- 21:57see yeah and why why is that they'll see fat do you guys like
- 22:02them yeah because
- 22:03because you'll see fat Axl Rose up on stage having a temper
- 22:07tantrum up there a
- 22:09SPEAKER_00: bunch of clowns around him
- 22:14these guys just way overthink this nonsense yeah they certainly
- 22:18do I think that's
- 22:19absolutely true and you're right bands that do residencies
- 22:23there's a couple of
- 22:24things they have to be big enough that you know they're
- 22:27expected to at least
- 22:29sellout or close to sellout every night but the other thing is
- 22:32what's cool is that
- 22:34they can definitely pick up some people who are just
- 22:36vacationing in Vegas who are
- 22:38going to say what's going on tonight oh we got Celine Dion
- 22:42playing we got Blue Man
- 22:43Group or we can go see Guns N' Roses let's go see Guns N' Roses
- 22:46I think that's a
- 22:46cool idea I think it'll probably be a good thing for them I
- 22:52think so too there's
- 22:53SPEAKER_00: just way too much thought put into that I think they're dead on dude
- 22:58SPEAKER_00: I think they're on to a valuable point here.
- 23:03SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they've gained all new fans after 30 years.
- 23:06SPEAKER_00: Yeah, look at that.
- 23:07SPEAKER_00: Look at all these new old fans.
- 23:08SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 23:09All these 60-year-old millionaires that are now at the Guns N'
- 23:13Roses shows.
- 23:14SPEAKER_02: Sure.
- 23:16SPEAKER_02: Never saw these guys before.
- 23:17SPEAKER_02: I'm glad I went.
- 23:18Yeah,
- 23:19I'm glad I went down there and wasted my gambling money to go
- 23:21and get tickets to this.
- 23:24you know I've seen Heart I guess actually twice in Vegas
- 23:27because when you and I
- 23:28were out there for the VH1 Rock Honors I remember Heart played
- 23:32a couple songs if
- 23:34I'm not mistaken did he just so say wow yeah wow yeah wow
- 23:39amazing Heart's only been
- 23:43around for 40 years wow dude I saw Cheap Trick last week at the
- 23:47Borgata in Atlantic
- 23:48SPEAKER_00: City wow they've only been around 40 years too right wow
- 23:54they did you're right they did and then I was in Vegas probably
- 23:59a year or two after
- 24:00that and Hart were doing like two or three nights at the Hilton
- 24:05there oh cool and
- 24:06Hart is like they were playing the lounge wow at the Hilton wow
- 24:13it's amazing
- 24:14SPEAKER_00: they'll play wherever the promoter pays them yeah exactly
- 24:20I probably normally would not go see like if they were playing
- 24:23in Newark at the
- 24:23Prudential Center I probably wouldn't go but it's like I like
- 24:27Heart I don't really
- 24:30own any of their records but I like I don't own any of their
- 24:36records but I like
- 24:37them I like them they're great they're so great I don't buy
- 24:40them I don't buy
- 24:41anything they have but god damn it I like those girls like them
- 24:45yeah even the fat
- 24:46SPEAKER_00: one even the chunky one wow
- 24:50I like their music whenever I hear it and you know I was in
- 24:53Vegas and I went and I
- 24:53saw them play and it was the greatest show I mean it wasn't the
- 24:57greatest show ever
- 24:57but it was a very very good show I couldn't compare the new
- 25:01guns no how could it
- 25:03compare to the new guns the only way it compares is that both
- 25:07singers are fat I
- 25:09wouldn't say both oh yeah between Axl and Anne I get it yeah
- 25:16that one flipped by me
- 25:17SPEAKER_00: too quick
- 25:20SPEAKER_03: I enjoyed myself a lot.
- 25:23SPEAKER_03: Second round of shots and a third round of beer.
- 25:25SPEAKER_01: Thank you Billy Marks.
- 25:28SPEAKER_01: Oh really?
- 25:29SPEAKER_01: On the house.
- 25:29SPEAKER_01: This is on the house.
- 25:30Thanks to Billy Marks and thanks to Mark Strigel's honesty over
- 25:34how much he paid or
- 25:35SPEAKER_01: didn't pay for something.
- 25:37Well I gave him 30 bucks and he gave me change for a 40 and I
- 25:40have to admit.
- 25:40SPEAKER_03: For a 40?
- 25:46drinks on the house drinks on the house even changed for a 40
- 25:50how is it if Bud
- 25:51Friendly paid how is it a drink on the house because it is not
- 25:56their house on the
- 25:57house means that the bar comped you I know it but so why is he
- 26:02thinking Bud
- 26:03Friendly does Bud own the bar maybe so maybe I do maybe I do
- 26:09own the bar if I leave
- 26:12SPEAKER_00: my part of my bed
- 26:17SPEAKER_00: It's not drinks on the house.
- 26:18SPEAKER_00: It means somebody bought you a round.
- 26:20SPEAKER_02: You know, I haven't had one of these in a long time now.
- 26:23SPEAKER_02: When's the last time you had a $40?
- 26:25SPEAKER_02: $40 bill.
- 26:26SPEAKER_02: He said he had to get changed for a $40.
- 26:30SPEAKER_03: Just let it go and shove them in my pocket.
- 26:35SPEAKER_03: But you are an honest man.
- 26:36SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
- 26:36SPEAKER_03: He seems like a nice guy.
- 26:38SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's a good guy.
- 26:38SPEAKER_01: He hooked us up the last time we heard it.
- 26:40SPEAKER_01: Let's do a cheers, guys.
- 26:41SPEAKER_01: Is this the knob?
- 26:43SPEAKER_03: It all worked out because he's given us a free round of shots Yeah,
- 26:46SPEAKER_03: we're gonna do a shot now,
- 26:47SPEAKER_03: guys Wow Yikes,
- 26:51SPEAKER_03: the knob 100 proof What is 100 proof?
- 26:54SPEAKER_01: Was that knob creak?
- 26:55SPEAKER_01: Is that what that is?
- 26:56SPEAKER_01: Okay, I was confusing that with the knot What is 100 proof?
- 26:59Alright I can't take this guy He's so fucking drunk Such a
- 27:07douche The knob,
- 27:09the knot Knob creak
- 27:15100 proof is 50% alcohol pure alcohol I love Bud Friendly he
- 27:18really adds something to this
- 27:36SPEAKER_00: two knobs talking about the knob.
- 27:40SPEAKER_00: Wow.
- 27:42SPEAKER_03: Makes the math easy.
- 27:43SPEAKER_03: 50% right.
- 27:44SPEAKER_01: Hey, I got an announcement to make.
- 27:46SPEAKER_00: Uh-oh.
- 27:48SPEAKER_00: Step back, kids.
- 27:49SPEAKER_00: He's got an announcement.
- 27:53SPEAKER_00: I'm gay and I like to stay at the fister.
- 27:58SPEAKER_00: Bud Friendly is my lover.
- 27:59SPEAKER_00: Oh, wait a minute.
- 28:00SPEAKER_00: That's me.
- 28:04There's a movie being shown at a movie theater tonight in
- 28:08Manhattan called Peanuts
- 28:09$1 and I am in the movie I thought it was like Peanuts and my
- 28:14shit Penis and his
- 28:17shitter And he's in the movie He's in the movie that nobody's
- 28:22gonna see Peanuts for
- 28:24SPEAKER_02: $1 Really?
- 28:26It was put together by and starring Sebastian Monica He is in
- 28:30town for the screening tonight
- 28:33SPEAKER_01: Are you going to?
- 28:34No I'm not going to be at the screening unfortunately due to
- 28:37previous commitments Right Really?
- 28:41SPEAKER_01: What would that be?
- 28:42SPEAKER_02: What's more important than your movie premiere?
- 28:45SPEAKER_00: This audio is so bad However
- 28:59SPEAKER_03: Like sleeping, for example.
- 29:01SPEAKER_03: What's that?
- 29:01SPEAKER_03: Like sleeping, right?
- 29:03SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
- 29:05SPEAKER_01: Sebastian's great.
- 29:05SPEAKER_01: We're going to hook up.
- 29:06SPEAKER_01: Sebastian already had this all worked out and he gave me a call today.
- 29:09SPEAKER_01: I haven't seen him in a few years.
- 29:11SPEAKER_01: He is a total cool guy and we're going to hook up later in the week.
- 29:16SPEAKER_01: And guess who you spoke with?
- 29:17One of our other good friends who I haven't spoken with and you
- 29:20haven't spoken with.
- 29:21SPEAKER_01: Mr.
- 29:21SPEAKER_01: Rob Fiore.
- 29:22SPEAKER_01: I'd like to find out what's going on.
- 29:24SPEAKER_01: I'm going to wait until I see Sebastian in person to find out...
- 29:30so drunk a student purpose person I mean purpose person oh man
- 29:38stink what's going
- 29:40on and good friend Rob Fiore I hope he's well definitely yeah
- 29:44me too wish him the
- 29:45best of luck this is I Death not wish him the best of luck of
- 29:51luck god these guys
- 29:56SPEAKER_02: are something
- 29:58SPEAKER_02: Stop digging through the noise and get the metal that actually matters.
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- 30:50SPEAKER_03: They're good.
- 30:52SPEAKER_03: Pod, but it's spelled like that.
- 30:53SPEAKER_03: It's like the lowercase I and the word death.
- 30:56SPEAKER_03: I death by Admiral Sir Cloudsley Shovel.
- 31:03SPEAKER_00: Wow.
- 31:04SPEAKER_00: Nice.
- 31:04SPEAKER_00: That's a mouth.
- 31:05SPEAKER_00: This wasn't handpicked, I take it.
- 31:07SPEAKER_00: Oh, this just popped up.
- 31:09SPEAKER_00: This one came up on the random play.
- 31:11SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I guess so.
- 31:13SPEAKER_00: It wasn't handpicked.
- 31:15SPEAKER_02: No.
- 31:15SPEAKER_02: I don't even know the guy's name.
- 31:18SPEAKER_02: I don't even know if I'm pronouncing that right, but here it is anyways.
- 31:23SPEAKER_00: Metal experts, right?
- 31:25SPEAKER_00: Exactly Metal experts Experts, right?
- 31:28SPEAKER_00: I don't know if I'm pronouncing it right,
- 31:30SPEAKER_00: but what the fuck,
- 31:31SPEAKER_00: here it is Here's Admiral Jim Cloudsley Before that,
- 31:35SPEAKER_00: some gum array Yep Metal experts
- 31:41SPEAKER_01: Hey, welcome back to Talking Metal.
- 31:43Hey,
- 31:44before we move on,
- 31:45I want to thank Eric from Washington,
- 31:47D.C.
- 31:48for the donation.
- 31:49You helped buy the new Talking Metal remote recorder because
- 31:53our recorder that
- 31:54SPEAKER_01: we've been using for many years clunked out.
- 31:57And this one doesn't sound very good at all,
- 31:59so they must have bought it at Discount Mart.
- 32:02SPEAKER_00: It must have been a donation of $10.
- 32:04SPEAKER_00: Holy shit.
- 32:05SPEAKER_00: Ha!
- 32:07this thing is if this is the new recorder yeah it sounds like
- 32:11ass they got nothing
- 32:12for it wasn't a gift no it wasn't take it back his donation
- 32:20bought a recorder they
- 32:25had $40 to spend on booths but they can't afford a new recorder
- 32:30right that's right
- 32:36and so we had to get a new one and thank you so much Eric and
- 32:39thanks to everybody
- 32:39who donated to Talking Metal and we got a new recorder so
- 32:43thanks guys honestly guys
- 32:45these recorders they're not cheap you know a little under 200
- 32:48bucks and I can
- 32:49SPEAKER_03: honestly say I didn't even
- 32:51SPEAKER_03: That's great Thank you This is killing me
- 33:21I just spent 40 bucks on drinks,
- 33:23but you guys had to buy me a new recorder.
- 33:30SPEAKER_00: Emily has no problem with me buying booze,
- 33:33SPEAKER_00: but when it comes to Talking Metal and supporting the podcast,
- 33:37SPEAKER_00: she is dead set against that.
- 33:40SPEAKER_00: I can certainly relate to that.
- 33:46SPEAKER_00: And if this is the new recorder, guys, you didn't get a bargain.
- 33:49and got a great 200 bucks for this sound is a clue guys turn
- 33:54down the recording pop
- 33:56shit okay getting wow so much guys that is really really really
- 34:01cool man you know
- 34:05looking back at all the years we can and there has been more
- 34:09donations than that
- 34:10SPEAKER_03: that I'm in but I've spent a little bit of it on another
- 34:15what did you spend it on spending it right now sitting there at
- 34:19the bar these guys
- 34:22are so shameless they don't care they have zero shame none they
- 34:28have no shame at
- 34:29all nope dude would you take would you take a donation from a
- 34:35fan and go out and
- 34:36just buy shit well let's try it anybody that wants to donate to
- 34:40me chris aiken at
- 34:41SPEAKER_02: aikenitservices.com
- 34:44feel free throw me some PayPal money oh my god sure I'll take
- 34:48their money why not
- 34:51these guys have zero pride none none no you know damn well if
- 34:57people did donate
- 34:57money to us we'd throw it right back to them I would never take
- 35:01a dollar from
- 35:02SPEAKER_02: anybody no
- 35:06we've gotten well over $200 worth of donations throughout the
- 35:10last year or two that
- 35:11we've been doing the PayPal thing so just wanted to clarify
- 35:15that thank you guys you
- 35:16know Mark I look at them all fucking assholes no Chris will
- 35:27spend it on online
- 35:28SPEAKER_02: dating kings
- 35:34SPEAKER_01: I really miss,
- 35:35SPEAKER_01: like,
- 35:35SPEAKER_01: the weekly podcasts,
- 35:37SPEAKER_01: and I'd love to be able to get back on that schedule again.
- 35:40SPEAKER_03: Well,
- 35:40SPEAKER_03: what I'm thinking is,
- 35:42SPEAKER_03: you know,
- 35:42SPEAKER_03: I know you're away a lot of weekends,
- 35:43SPEAKER_03: but on the weekends that you're home,
- 35:46SPEAKER_03: you know,
- 35:46SPEAKER_03: even if it's every third weekend you're home,
- 35:48why don't we do the thing where we do the phone call and you
- 35:52record on your end,
- 35:53SPEAKER_03: I record on mine,
- 35:54SPEAKER_03: and then we just put it together.
- 35:55SPEAKER_00: That's a great idea.
- 35:56SPEAKER_00: We should do it.
- 35:58SPEAKER_00: Why don't you just use Skype, dummies?
- 36:01SPEAKER_02: Stop it.
- 36:02SPEAKER_02: Dude.
- 36:03can't do that oh it doesn't work yeah it sounds like shit yeah
- 36:09I forgot it doesn't
- 36:10work right Chris it sounds terrible it sounds horrible sounds
- 36:14awful that's why I
- 36:16have to have you flown into Chicago every week so you could do
- 36:19it here that's right
- 36:20I appreciate it you do it on your end I do it on my end then we
- 36:24edit it together
- 36:26right that sounds good yeah let's not let's not use like modern
- 36:30technology that's
- 36:33SPEAKER_02: Why would you use that?
- 36:35SPEAKER_02: How stupid.
- 36:36SPEAKER_02: Well,
- 36:36maybe their fans will donate another $400 so they can each buy
- 36:40a pro Skype account
- 36:41SPEAKER_02: and then they could use that.
- 36:43SPEAKER_02: Sure.
- 36:45You have to at least try to do it every weekend or every other
- 36:49weekend or whatever
- 36:51SPEAKER_01: weekends I'm in.
- 36:52SPEAKER_01: We could even do some remote ones.
- 36:53SPEAKER_01: So guys,
- 36:54SPEAKER_01: just in case you're not aware,
- 36:55SPEAKER_01: I've been like away almost every single weekend with Ace and it's...
- 37:00a blast but it's it's a lot of work like when I'm out with Ace
- 37:03it's it's just like
- 37:04pretty much 24-7 work and it's fun work but it's it's work and
- 37:10Ace is great we did
- 37:12have one non-work related hang just me and Ace the rest of the
- 37:17band was staying
- 37:18SPEAKER_01: away just due to some logistical reasons and me and Ace were together
- 37:24and we went to a casino and Ace spotted me some cash and I won
- 37:30Why did he do that?
- 37:32If you're working for him because he's a broke dick Right
- 37:37That's why they need
- 37:38PayPal money to buy a cheap recorder that sounds like shit
- 37:42Right It's got plenty of
- 37:44SPEAKER_00: money for booze though Of course dude,
- 37:47SPEAKER_00: got priorities
- 37:50SPEAKER_03: which is really cool.
- 37:50SPEAKER_03: How much you win?
- 37:51SPEAKER_03: Like 300 bucks.
- 37:53SPEAKER_03: That's nice.
- 37:53SPEAKER_03: What casino?
- 37:54SPEAKER_03: We were up in Green Bay.
- 37:56SPEAKER_01: So slot machine or blackjack?
- 37:59I then lost 100 on a slot machine and then another 100 on
- 38:03blackjack but I wound up
- 38:07leaving with 100 which was good and it was really cool to win
- 38:10100 bucks and
- 38:12initially 300 and I didn't make any wrong moves on playing
- 38:16blackjack but you know
- 38:17SPEAKER_01: sometimes you just get dealt bad cards and
- 38:20I didn't make any wrong moves on the blackjack I like how he
- 38:27started out saying he
- 38:28won $300 but when it was all said and done he won $100 so you
- 38:33didn't win $300 you
- 38:34won $100 well he left with $100 yeah he won $100 that's all he
- 38:40won yeah but he
- 38:41didn't say how much he started out with that's true too he
- 38:44might have started with
- 38:45SPEAKER_00: $400 right
- 38:48so again being a complete liar right sitting there like playing
- 38:54blackjack by myself
- 38:56and who comes up next to me and sits down with Ace and yeah it
- 38:59was really cool it's
- 38:59a lot of people you know if you're not expecting to see Ace
- 39:03Frehley and if it's
- 39:04like three o'clock in the morning or two o'clock in the morning
- 39:06um you know and the
- 39:08people there aren't rock fans or whatever because our concert
- 39:11wasn't at that hotel
- 39:12SPEAKER_01: casino you know is this again
- 39:15SPEAKER_01: What city was this?
- 39:16Green Bay What was cool is that we were in the casino and I
- 39:21know the dealer knew
- 39:22SPEAKER_01: who Ace was so I thought that was really cool Wow,
- 39:26SPEAKER_02: that is cool Why is that cool?
- 39:29SPEAKER_02: Because that's cool, dude The guy recognized Ace How cool is that?
- 39:34SPEAKER_02: Wow Wow
- 39:42There were a few other people that knew who he was,
- 39:46and it was really cool.
- 39:49SPEAKER_01: But the cool thing was,
- 39:51SPEAKER_01: is that it wasn't a rock,
- 39:53SPEAKER_01: I mean,
- 39:53SPEAKER_01: not cool,
- 39:54SPEAKER_01: but it's just,
- 39:55SPEAKER_01: it's cool that Ace and me had it.
- 39:57SPEAKER_00: Was it cool or is it not cool?
- 39:58SPEAKER_00: It's not cool, but it was cool that... Not cool, but it was cool.
- 40:03SPEAKER_02: It's not cool, but it was cool that...
- 40:07SPEAKER_01: inside information shh
- 40:36sit down folks put your ear up to the speaker so that you don't
- 40:39miss a moment the
- 40:42new book here's what's happening ace is starting to jot down
- 40:45ideas and he's he's
- 40:47gotten a lot of them and and basically what the process is is
- 40:50i've told ace just
- 40:52start putting ideas down start writing start you know ace ace
- 40:56is a really good
- 40:57SPEAKER_01: writer actually um he can write entire chapters so he's gonna wow
- 41:04SPEAKER_00: He can write entire chapters.
- 41:06SPEAKER_02: That's amazing for an author that can write entire chapters.
- 41:09SPEAKER_02: Wow.
- 41:10SPEAKER_02: That's something.
- 41:11SPEAKER_02: Look at AOR Rocks.
- 41:12SPEAKER_02: Put it on WikiLeaks.
- 41:17Start that,
- 41:19and then we're going to reconvene at some point and just start
- 41:23going over the stuff.
- 41:24And we also have plans to interview more people who have worked
- 41:29with Kiss in the
- 41:30SPEAKER_01: past and worked with Ace.
- 41:31SPEAKER_01: And...
- 41:33SPEAKER_01: Just a lot of cool stuff going on with that.
- 41:35SPEAKER_01: But basically, Ace is like a...
- 41:40SPEAKER_01: I don't know if you guys know this,
- 41:41SPEAKER_01: and we mention it in the book,
- 41:43SPEAKER_01: but Ace has one of the highest IQs in the KISS world,
- 41:47SPEAKER_01: and when he really sits down and says...
- 41:48SPEAKER_02: What?
- 41:49SPEAKER_02: Wow, in the KISS world.
- 41:50SPEAKER_02: In the KISS world?
- 41:52SPEAKER_02: So he's one of the smart ones of the four?
- 41:55SPEAKER_02: What's he up against?
- 41:57SPEAKER_00: Gene Paul and...
- 42:01SPEAKER_00: Ace Broke Off His Ass Gene Rich As Fuck Who was the smart one there?
- 42:09Let's do that again Ace Broke Off His Ass Paul Rich As Fuck Who
- 42:16was the smart one there?
- 42:17SPEAKER_00: Exactly He's got the highest IQ That's great What does that mean?
- 42:23SPEAKER_02: Who took this IQ test?
- 42:25SPEAKER_02: In the kiss world
- 42:26Was there a kiss day where all four of them went down and took
- 42:30an IQ test?
- 42:32SPEAKER_02: How does he come up with that he has the highest IQ?
- 42:35SPEAKER_02: I don't know I mean, where's the proof of that?
- 42:38SPEAKER_02: Where's the testing?
- 42:39SPEAKER_00: Let's see Ace,
- 42:41SPEAKER_00: playing clubs for 500 people or less Right Kiss,
- 42:45SPEAKER_02: selling out arenas Right Hmm Hmm Dude,
- 42:51SPEAKER_02: it's the demons,
- 42:52SPEAKER_02: man Okay
- 42:56He sits there writing I suck on his knob It relaxes him so he
- 42:57can write better Correct
- 43:24No one's around us and it's just me and Ace and two computer
- 43:26screens and I got a
- 43:28SPEAKER_01: keyboard,
- 43:29SPEAKER_01: you know,
- 43:29a computer keyboard and I just type and Ace talks and that's
- 43:32how we did No Regrets
- 43:35SPEAKER_00: So he was a stenographer Yeah,
- 43:37SPEAKER_00: pretty much Yeah,
- 43:38because he played an important part there Sure did But they
- 43:43have a new fangled
- 43:44thing called Dragon Yeah And it's basically a replacement for
- 43:49John Astronomy
- 43:51what makes me crazy though is I actually saw that book when I
- 43:54was in Atlantic City
- 43:55and there's that dickhead's fucking name right on the book the
- 44:01book does say right
- 44:02on the cover Ace Frehley with John Ostrowski and some other guy
- 44:08Gene Simmons is
- 44:09marketing a new Kiss IQ kit only $99 nice it's been tested too
- 44:16by the four members
- 44:18SPEAKER_02: it came out that fucking Ace was the smart one
- 44:21This obviously isn't a book we're going to see in two months or
- 44:24something like that.
- 44:25SPEAKER_01: It's going to be a little ways off,
- 44:27but I think we're going to have some cool input from a lot of
- 44:34cool people.
- 44:35SPEAKER_01: Recently,
- 44:36SPEAKER_01: Ace just jammed with Richie Scarlett and Anton Figg,
- 44:40SPEAKER_01: and both of them were mentioned and talked about a lot in the first book,
- 44:46SPEAKER_01: and I'm sure those guys will help out with the second book as well.
- 44:50SPEAKER_01: and just a lot of cool stuff going on.
- 44:53SPEAKER_01: It was great to see Ace jam with Richie and Anton at the New York show.
- 44:57SPEAKER_03: We jam with Richie once.
- 44:58SPEAKER_03: Yeah,
- 44:58SPEAKER_01: we jam with Richie down at the Old Knitting Factory,
- 45:01SPEAKER_01: which unfortunately isn't even there anymore.
- 45:02SPEAKER_03: Oh, really?
- 45:03Yeah,
- 45:03John Astronomy and Captain T.
- 45:04There's great footage of that up on YouTube.
- 45:10I think that's on the Talking Metal page Although I'm not sure
- 45:14Check out Mark's
- 45:16personal page There's a lot of great videos on that page I'll
- 45:19try to link that
- 45:20through the show notes The footage of John and I Jamming with
- 45:23the great Richie
- 45:24SPEAKER_00: Scarlett Boy That's something to look forward to Wow
- 45:32SPEAKER_00: Well,
- 45:32SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 45:33SPEAKER_00: dude,
- 45:33SPEAKER_00: way back in 1999 or rather 2000,
- 45:39I went to the Alrosa Villa in Columbus where Dimebag Daryl met
- 45:43his demise.
- 45:45SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 45:45And I actually saw Sebastian Bach,
- 45:48Anton Figg,
- 45:49and Richie Scarlett playing on the same stage.
- 45:52SPEAKER_02: You're kidding?
- 45:53SPEAKER_02: Wow.
- 45:54SPEAKER_00: Yep, I did.
- 45:55SPEAKER_02: Amazing.
- 45:56SPEAKER_00: And then...
- 45:57I went on the bus and I hung out with all of them along with
- 46:00Bam Bam Morris who
- 46:02unfortunately passed away recently Damn dude that's something
- 46:07Yep and I got
- 46:08pictures of it which I'll link through the show notes after the
- 46:11CMS is over tonight
- 46:13SPEAKER_00: Okay good that'll be good because we need to get those show notes updated
- 46:16immediately You know what I recently saw on your page Mark and
- 46:22I totally hadn't
- 46:23SPEAKER_01: seen this My page?
- 46:25SPEAKER_01: Yeah your YouTube page?
- 46:26SPEAKER_01: Oh my YouTube page
- 46:27SPEAKER_01: And it was because some other people I know,
- 46:30a great person named Fran from a great store back in PA and my
- 46:36girlfriend Lynn
- 46:37SPEAKER_01: found a video of Roy's baby at,
- 46:42SPEAKER_01: I think it was the Spiral
- 46:45and I wrecked the drum set we had Nick Cavanaro on guitar and I
- 46:49totally forgot that
- 46:50I used to wreck the drum set you wrecked the drum set at that
- 46:54gig and then you
- 46:55wrecked the first gig by another band Captain T had the
- 47:01Hollywood Superstars you
- 47:03wrecked the drum set there and Kenny our good friend the sound
- 47:06man started yelling
- 47:07SPEAKER_00: at you how did he wreck the drum set?
- 47:13SPEAKER_00: by playing it
- 47:15he wrecked it I wrecked the drum set there and then on that
- 47:19other one with Captain
- 47:21T I wrecked it there right how did you wreck it who knows he's
- 47:27out of control he's
- 47:30SPEAKER_00: something he's a wild man he's out of control yep look out
- 47:35wow that was at Spiral right that was at Spiral 2 yeah I forgot
- 47:38about that one he
- 47:39was like cursing you out and then later you guys made up oh
- 47:42good yeah Kenny Kenny
- 47:43used to work at a rehearsal studio that Cherry Red used to
- 47:48practice now he's like
- 47:49he's one of the top sound guys in New York oh is he wow wow wow
- 47:55let me answer a
- 47:56question in the chat real quick do you think these two idiots
- 47:59realize that Chris is
- 48:00SPEAKER_02: back and the CMS is ripping on them again
- 48:03We know for an absolute fact that they do We have confirmation
- 48:09of that there,
- 48:10Nathan We know for sure that they know Notice there's not a
- 48:14whole lot of amazings
- 48:16SPEAKER_00: going on anymore Yeah I wonder why that is Don't know Amazing Wow
- 48:25SPEAKER_03: thecmsnetwork.com
- 48:46I've never heard a guy so freaking impressed by people who work
- 48:51behind the scenes
- 48:52SPEAKER_00: and just,
- 48:53SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 48:53SPEAKER_00: are basically roadies.
- 48:55SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 48:55SPEAKER_00: Wow.
- 48:56SPEAKER_00: Wow.
- 48:58SPEAKER_00: Holy shit, are you kidding me?
- 48:59SPEAKER_00: That's something.
- 49:01SPEAKER_00: Wow.
- 49:04SPEAKER_01: Wasn't that my own kit that I wrecked, though?
- 49:08SPEAKER_00: It was.
- 49:10where was this guy I can't remember was it my own drum set I
- 49:14racked or was it
- 49:15somebody else's do you remember having to buy new ones there
- 49:18Johnny because if you
- 49:21SPEAKER_02: do then maybe it was was I even there wow yeah
- 49:28The symbols were yours but I think the hardware was his I'm
- 49:35sorry if I wrecked any
- 49:36SPEAKER_00: hardware Sorry if I wrecked any hardware What are we talking about here?
- 49:42SPEAKER_02: Enough about the drum kit The symbols were yours
- 49:47You've heard me grill your favorite rock stars for 30 years on
- 49:51the Classic Metal
- 49:52SPEAKER_02: Show and Chris Akin Presents.
- 49:55SPEAKER_02: Now it's time to put me to work for you.
- 49:58SPEAKER_02: That's right.
- 49:59I am officially on Cameo and I'm bringing that same unfiltered
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- 50:05SPEAKER_02: to your personal messages.
- 50:07SPEAKER_02: No fluff, no corporate scripts, just the raw truth.
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- 50:30SPEAKER_02: Head on over to cameo.com and just do a search for my name,
- 50:34SPEAKER_02: Chris Akin,
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- 50:36SPEAKER_02: Let's make something legendary.
- 50:38SPEAKER_02: Get some CMS personalized.
- 50:41Enough about this drum kit from 10 years ago Oh my god Was that
- 50:47my drum kit?
- 50:48SPEAKER_00: Was I even part of this?
- 50:50SPEAKER_00: How did I get those drums there that day?
- 50:52SPEAKER_00: Did I wreck them or what happened?
- 50:56SPEAKER_02: Did they get wrecked when I wrecked my car?
- 50:59SPEAKER_00: I think I blacked out at that point I think I drank too much
- 51:07you threw it over and then he was like screaming at you right
- 51:09after the show and
- 51:10then later like you guys kind of made up he was like well I
- 51:12have to do that because
- 51:13my boss was here and yeah it was like yeah Kenny's great I
- 51:17think Kenny's last name
- 51:18is Lionheart something like that line okay you ever notice
- 51:23these guys always have
- 51:24their facts straight yeah they know everything that's going on
- 51:27there was this guy
- 51:28and his name was Kenny and I think was you know he was a good
- 51:32friend and you know I
- 51:33SPEAKER_00: don't remember even what his name was and
- 51:41sounds like these guys have been drinking too much I saw red
- 51:44wine yeah it could be
- 51:47what you know like he was there and I can't remember was it my
- 51:52drum set or was it
- 51:54somebody else's and then he yelled at me and he said he was
- 51:57only doing it because
- 51:58his boss was there but he really didn't mean it and if I
- 52:01wrecked any hardware I'm
- 52:02SPEAKER_00: sorry about that
- 52:07SPEAKER_03: Mark went to his birthday party
- 52:38I was at his birthday party I think I was still dating my wife
- 52:43and he was talking
- 52:45about Kelly Ripa and she was like oh Mark likes Kelly Ripa too
- 52:48and then he started
- 52:49telling me all this crazy stuff if you go to
- 52:51kellyrippaslegs.com every day they
- 52:54post a picture of her walking out he was like hardcore wow so
- 53:03they're just saying
- 53:05SPEAKER_00: their friend was a perv yeah right
- 53:08yeah Keller rip his legs he rip his legs quite that hardcore I
- 53:16don't even I wasn't
- 53:17really even too crazy I thought she saw it I always saw her on
- 53:21the street once I
- 53:21still think she saw it down in Soho pushing a baby carriage wow
- 53:25I've never seen her
- 53:26SPEAKER_00: I saw her in Soho once pushing a baby carriage wow wow
- 53:37SPEAKER_00: Nathan in Kentucky, this is so metal.
- 53:41SPEAKER_00: Have they even talked about metal at all?
- 53:43SPEAKER_00: No, not at all.
- 53:48SPEAKER_03: Actually, I saw her when she just started at VH1 Rock Honors.
- 53:54SPEAKER_03: She was there.
- 53:56SPEAKER_01: I didn't realize that.
- 53:56SPEAKER_01: She was part of the show?
- 53:58SPEAKER_03: Yeah, she did some presentation or something.
- 54:03SPEAKER_01: You know who I saw?
- 54:04SPEAKER_01: Sue Simmons.
- 54:06God bless Sue Simmons She retired recently They made her retire
- 54:12Right Bud Friendly
- 54:16SPEAKER_03: Lesbian She's a lesbian This is relevant how?
- 54:26She's a lesbian She's a lesbian Sue Simmons is a lesbian You
- 54:31heard it here first
- 54:32SPEAKER_02: That's a Talking Metal Exclusive
- 54:37yeah she is uh but um I don't know and why why is that a why is
- 54:42that even an issue
- 54:43who knows again she got fired because she's a lesbian better a
- 54:53lesbian than a
- 54:54SPEAKER_00: fister
- 54:56That's why they forced her to retire or she was just getting
- 54:59old or what.
- 55:00SPEAKER_03: But a lot of people upset about that.
- 55:02SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I like Sue Simmons.
- 55:04Sue Simmons was the local New York correspondent on the NBC
- 55:12affiliate here in New York City.
- 55:15SPEAKER_00: Thanks for clearing that up.
- 55:17SPEAKER_00: Someone cared outside of New York.
- 55:19SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 55:20SPEAKER_00: Well, New York is the end-all be-all.
- 55:22that's true anywhere in the planet that's where everything that
- 55:27matters happens
- 55:28SPEAKER_00: right a good retirement package and can eat out every night unbelievable
- 55:48SPEAKER_03: Thank you, Bud Friendly.
- 55:50SPEAKER_01: She Simmons was great.
- 55:51I,
- 55:51in fact,
- 55:52did see her at a little restaurant underneath the NBC building.
- 55:58SPEAKER_03: The Rainbow Grill?
- 55:59SPEAKER_01: No, it was a place where you would get high-end deli food.
- 56:06SPEAKER_01: Seafood?
- 56:06SPEAKER_01: Oh, I should know that as I worked in the building for a while.
- 56:09SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I forgot the name of it.
- 56:10SPEAKER_01: Cipriani or something?
- 56:11SPEAKER_01: No, I don't think it was Cipriani, but one of these places.
- 56:13SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
- 56:16you should be a food critic she gets her quality seafood from
- 56:23her girlfriend's
- 56:23snatch because she's a lesbian that's right she eats the pussy
- 56:28she likes the clam
- 56:30she eats out every night that's right anyway yeah Sue Simmons
- 56:36of Channel 4
- 56:41WNBC formerly of Channel 4 WNBC WNBC remember that movie
- 56:47Private Park now he's
- 56:49SPEAKER_00: gonna go down through the whole pig virus WNBC Jesus Christ
- 56:57didn't they used to frequently say WNBC WNBC yeah I miss Howard
- 57:03Stern WNBC that was
- 57:07Bud Friendly he's good he doesn't miss a trick alright what
- 57:11should we play to get
- 57:11us out here wow that's Bud Friendly he doesn't miss a trick
- 57:19doesn't miss a single
- 57:20SPEAKER_02: trick
- 57:25SPEAKER_03: Seen any other bands besides Ace?
- 57:29SPEAKER_01: That I'm listening to at the moment?
- 57:30Yeah,
- 57:30or any shows that you've been to or any rockers that you've run
- 57:35into?
- 57:35SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know who I've recently seen?
- 57:37SPEAKER_01: A great, great rocker, and I think we should end with one of his tunes.
- 57:40SPEAKER_01: Sammy Hagar Oh yeah,
- 57:42SPEAKER_01: definitely Yeah,
- 57:42SPEAKER_01: totally,
- 57:42totally cool And I recently got a chance to meet Ted Nugent in
- 57:46person as well And I
- 57:47had met Ted before and we've had him on Talking Metal But it
- 57:51was a quick thing and
- 57:52SPEAKER_01: he was great That was in Jackson,
- 57:55SPEAKER_03: Michigan Yeah And then We have a great ID from Ted Nugent Yeah Actually
- 58:03SPEAKER_01: God bless America!
- 58:04SPEAKER_01: Hey,
- 58:04SPEAKER_01: this is your blood brother of the American dream,
- 58:06SPEAKER_01: Ted Nugent,
- 58:07SPEAKER_01: celebrating the American rock and roll dream on Talking Metal.
- 58:12SPEAKER_01: Live it up.
- 58:15SPEAKER_03: That was Ted Nugent with his Talking Metal ID.
- 58:23SPEAKER_02: Nice!
- 58:27SPEAKER_02: Dude, can you play me the John Levin ID?
- 58:30sure or any idea it doesn't matter who sure let me see here let
- 58:36me play play one
- 58:37for you these guys it's just it's just pathetic it's horrendous
- 58:47this is just
- 58:47pathetic whoa hey this is Mark Kendall from Great White and
- 58:55you're listening to
- 58:55SPEAKER_02: Chris and Mealy on the Implastic Metal Show
- 58:59Wow,
- 58:59that was Mark Kendall doing his ID right here on the Classic
- 59:04Metal Show.
- 59:07SPEAKER_02: How stupid.
- 59:13SPEAKER_02: Oh, wow.
- 59:15SPEAKER_02: That's something.
- 59:18SPEAKER_02: Wow, that's a wow moment.
- 59:212006-ish I just recently played that same exact ID at home to
- 59:28Lynn because she is
- 59:30from the Detroit area and it's really cool but anyway yeah why
- 59:35wow again she's from
- 59:38the Detroit area and it's really cool it is really cool why
- 59:43because she's from
- 59:44Detroit Ted's from Detroit Detroit's a tiny place where
- 59:48everybody knows each other
- 59:49SPEAKER_02: apparently
- 59:50So it's almost like she was hearing her uncle or something
- 59:55Right Uncle Ted?
- 59:57Let me tell you about Sammy Hagar He is totally cool Who isn't
- 1:00:04totally cool by
- 1:00:05SPEAKER_00: their standards with anybody who they've come in contact with?
- 1:00:10SPEAKER_00: Well us Well they've never talked about us though No
- 1:00:16not on the air oh on the air yeah who isn't totally cool all
- 1:00:25the time I don't know
- 1:00:27they seem to like everybody great story that he was hanging
- 1:00:31with Ace and the whole
- 1:00:33time he didn't realize it was Ace like and so he never said
- 1:00:37like hey Ace sounds
- 1:00:38great to meet you or anything he just was hanging with him and
- 1:00:40then and I think
- 1:00:41this was at a kiss show like after a kiss show so Ace had taken
- 1:00:45his makeup off and
- 1:00:46SPEAKER_01: everything
- 1:00:47and uh so then what happened was after Ace left Sammy's
- 1:00:51girlfriend or wife I'm not
- 1:00:53sure and forgive me Sammy uh yeah well he did divorce at some
- 1:00:58point in the 90s I
- 1:00:59think but yeah so it could have been a backstage horror for all
- 1:01:03I know yeah well we
- 1:01:05don't want to say that she just happened to be hanging on him
- 1:01:08at that time so you
- 1:01:09know look we don't want to say that dude because god knows we
- 1:01:13cannot spread a rumor
- 1:01:14SPEAKER_02: that might not be true okay
- 1:01:17stop it it said wow that was really cool we were just hanging
- 1:01:22with Ace for all that
- 1:01:23time and Sammy's like oh my god I didn't realize that was Ace
- 1:01:25so then when Sammy
- 1:01:27met Ace he said you know I wanted to tell you that that time we
- 1:01:32were totally
- 1:01:32hanging out I didn't realize that was you and I wanted to say
- 1:01:35it was really cool to
- 1:01:36hang out with you and so it was great we had a fun time that
- 1:01:41guy knows how to tell
- 1:01:43SPEAKER_00: a story
- 1:01:44he is a storytelling machine he is he can tell a story yeah
- 1:01:50this one's almost as
- 1:01:51good as when he stepped on Snake Sable's foot and he said I'm
- 1:01:53sorry sorry dude yeah
- 1:01:56SPEAKER_02: right
- 1:01:57SPEAKER_01: This was at a catfish festival in Greenville,
- 1:02:01SPEAKER_01: Wisconsin,
- 1:02:02SPEAKER_01: which is about 40 miles outside of Green Bay.
- 1:02:05SPEAKER_01: It was packed.
- 1:02:05SPEAKER_01: It was at a farm.
- 1:02:07SPEAKER_01: It was really cool.
- 1:02:08SPEAKER_01: They had great food there.
- 1:02:09SPEAKER_01: They really treated the bands nicely.
- 1:02:13SPEAKER_00: I met Red and Jerry of Rock and Metal Revival.
- 1:02:17SPEAKER_00: They took a picture of me coming out of the port-a-potty.
- 1:02:23SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 1:02:27do in these outdoor festivals they bring like a trailer it's
- 1:02:29like almost like an
- 1:02:30actual trailer you could live in and they got like Ace's
- 1:02:33trailer and Sammy's
- 1:02:34trailer right next to each other and so any trailer has like a
- 1:02:38few different rooms
- 1:02:38in it and it was really cool to hang out on these events but
- 1:02:42any specific song you
- 1:02:43want to end with I like one now is this a hand picked song is
- 1:02:50that it that's it
- 1:02:51they had two trailers next to each other and it was cool what's
- 1:02:54cool about being in
- 1:02:55SPEAKER_00: a trailer yeah
- 1:02:56They have those trailers over there at the...
- 1:03:02What's the place down there in Cleveland?
- 1:03:07SPEAKER_00: Nautica?
- 1:03:08SPEAKER_00: No, the other one.
- 1:03:10SPEAKER_00: Tower City?
- 1:03:10SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that one.
- 1:03:12they got the trailers back there and they're side by side and
- 1:03:15that's where the
- 1:03:15bands you know hang out that is amazing change your clothes wow
- 1:03:21it's a dressing
- 1:03:22room wow it's a portable dressing room and it's really cool
- 1:03:26yeah and they're side
- 1:03:27by side wow something Only One Way to Rock is good Heavy Metal
- 1:03:33is good yeah I like
- 1:03:34There's Only One Way to Rock VOA is a good one oh VOA remember
- 1:03:37that one yeah for
- 1:03:38some reason I think my favorite song is There's Only One Way to
- 1:03:40Rock here it is
- 1:03:43SPEAKER_02: Wow, there it is.
- 1:03:45SPEAKER_02: Is that it?
- 1:03:46SPEAKER_02: Can't believe it.
- 1:03:48SPEAKER_02: I feel stupider.
- 1:03:49SPEAKER_02: I feel one hour stupider for listening to that.
- 1:03:51SPEAKER_00: Can you believe that?
- 1:03:53SPEAKER_00: That is horrendous.
- 1:03:54SPEAKER_00: And what did they talk about?
- 1:03:57SPEAKER_00: Nothing.
- 1:03:57SPEAKER_00: No metal.
- 1:03:58SPEAKER_00: Nothing.
- 1:04:00SPEAKER_00: None.
- 1:04:02SPEAKER_00: They're experts.
- 1:04:03SPEAKER_00: They played some Gamma Ray.
- 1:04:05SPEAKER_00: Gamma Ray, that's true.
- 1:04:09SPEAKER_00: It's so bad.
- 1:04:10SPEAKER_00: It's fucking horrendous.
- 1:04:13well there you go dude that's gonna wrap up the show glad I
- 1:04:18could contribute yeah
- 1:04:19there it is wow wow that's something I just like that wow is
- 1:04:26the new amazing yeah I
- 1:04:27know I noticed they don't say amazing anymore no they do not
- 1:04:31say that one anymore I
- 1:04:33don't think I heard that even once nope it's amazing they're
- 1:04:37done with that one
- 1:04:38SPEAKER_00: somebody picked on them and they didn't like it I wonder why
- 1:04:42jeez look at that oaky tigress pure stupidity on display amen
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