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The Flute Got Something To Say · Hip-Hop Now Podcast

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Coming up. On this week's episode of hip Hop Now podcast, my thoughts
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on Drake's new EP Deluxe whatever you want to call it, Scary Hours three,
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legendary producer Eric Summon says that hip hop is stuck in one place and
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three Stacks is back Andre three thousand, He's back. Bring your flute though,
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we'll talk about it. Let's do it. Welcome to japp Now,
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pot Fats from the future. You know what to do? Show ass out
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about that. Don't disrespect the leg back hip hop is. Say this today,
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escae right to the business. What up, y'all? I am your
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host Vegas and this hip Hop Now podcasting podcast specifically to keep you caught up
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on all things hip hop, music and culture that happened throughout the week.
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The link to your questions is in the description of this episode, fifty
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years of hip Hop. We must keep saying that because the end of this
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year is on the If you're from the future, you're already in twenty twenty
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four when you're watching this. Come on now, get on out here.
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But it's in our sights. We can see it, it's dead, and
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that means for this podcast for your viewing and listening pleasure, top five of
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the year now in previous years, because I'm a divert real quick, but
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in previous years, I've done something where I've done in like an episode where
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I'm like, there's the top five of the year episode that's gonna hit in
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like December, but before that, there's like a best albums of the year,
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and I just go through a whole list of albums, you know,
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from this year, right twenty twenty three, and you know, I found
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that to be a little crazy, you know, because they were like last
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year, I think I had like twenty some albums. And sometimes it's just
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the nature of the beasts, right like with hip hop, win in a
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place now where you can get twenty really good albums in one year, if
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not more, or projects in general, because artists tend to release like somebody
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like Ransom for instance, Like Ransom has like three or four projects this year
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alone him, and it's quality work. Now, of course I'm not gonna
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put all four albums on a list, but sometimes or four damn not worthy
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to be there. Same thing, but nas, what do you drop two
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albums in twenty twenty three one will definitely not be on the list. But
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you see what I mean. So this year, what I'm gonna do,
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there's going to be a top five, but there will also be a top
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ten runner ups. Like I'm gonna just dedicate myself to cutting the fact and
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saying these are the these are my top five, but these are the albums
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or projects that could easily, in any other situation have made my top five
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for the year. And just a little warning, everything I pick isn't just
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because that's what everybody likes. Like, that's to be like really quality work
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and sometimes the only thing beyond and that that doesn't mean that it's not quality,
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but the only thing beyond that where I'm not looking for an album to
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check out these boxes is if somebody just put out something that's just beats and
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bars and it's just pure hip hop and it's just dope, right, And
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there are a couple of those this year. And I'll just say this for
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those who've been watching this show, who've been listening to this show, there
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are a number of albums I reviewed that I was like, top five right
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now, like it's that good. Some of them won't be in the top
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five because again, as you continue to listen to these projects, some joints
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kind of I started to feel like it's not bad, but I'm not as
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excited as I was when I first heard it. But then they're those my
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top five that I every time I go back to it, the same feeling
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I had when I first heard it comes right back, and in one of
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two cases my mind was changed from my initial review. So they you have
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it. Big shout out to hip Hop DX dot com, All hip Hop
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dot Com, shout out to them, the source magazine dot com sometimes you
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know, I don't know whatever, and a couple of other places where I
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get my stories from. Let's get read into the business. So Drake all
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of a sudden, all of out of nowhere, decided, Yo, Scary
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Hours three is on the way now. If you don't know what Scary Hours
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is, it's typically like an EP or basically it's a series, right like
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how you have nonsas the Kings Disease series and Kendrick has the what is it
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the Heart series? Drake has the Scary Hour series and as a Drake fan,
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to me, that tends to be the best of his music. Right
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from a rapping standpoint, it is the only opportunity the majority of a time
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where we typically get old bars rapping Drake right now, don't take my words
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out of context. I'm not exaggerating it, like he could be on a
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level with this one or that one, that one. But it's good,
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That's what I'll say. It's good and this is the rap. This is
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the Drake I like. Right. So he put out an album this year
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for all the Dogs, I believe, I've reviewed it on here. I
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did not like it, and I'm a Drake fan, but I just it
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was just the most redundant dead style switching formula making a gainness ass album I've
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heard. I know it's a kids show, but the kids can say ass
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okay, But I had ever heard and he's done it before. But you
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know, sometimes he had mixed records on these albums that you'd be like,
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Okay, maybe I don't really care for that one, but I like these
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not for the dogs now typically or just for example, Scary Hours two last
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year was three songs, right, But when I tell y'all, no exaggeration,
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I was listening to those three songs every day every day. Now,
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it did Scary Hours didn't make my top of the year, but I just
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liked it and it was quick, and when I would hit go back to
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the first track, I just would go for the ride and go back to
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the next, the first track again at the end, and just go for
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the ride again. So I had big expectations for Scary Hours four, I
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mean three, mainly because I really liked the last project. Well, I
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feel the same as time and probably even more so, which is crazy.
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Scary Hours three is now six songs. I think, let's just confirm that,
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you know, let me go to my staff of none and confirm.
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Let's see, yeah, six tracks. But they tacked it on the end
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of For All Dogs as a deluxe edition, so it's like, for All
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the Dogs, Scary Hours three, please don't do that. We know you
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wanted that album to be something big, and nobody really liked it because they
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stopped talking about it. Joe Budden said what he had to say, and
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we all didn't really care for it. We all felt the same. But
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when you want to talk about come back, and I get it. For
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business purposes, man, you can't just throw your album to the side,
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like all right, y'all didn't like to head it. I mean, Eminem
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did it when he put out that what was it Revival with the flag on
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the front of you, like he going at Donald Trump. That album Garbage.
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It was the worst. It gotta be the worst Eminem album ever heard.
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But then he came out with Kama Kazi. He didn't take Kama Kazi
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attack it on the end and called Revival Deluxe or whatever it was called.
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He just said, okay, y, I didn't like that. Here's something
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else, right, here's something more your speed. So I kind of wish
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he had separated this from that project because it's just weird for me. Every
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time I, you know, go to listen to it, I gotta scroll
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down to the when the Scary Hours tracks start one through six just to listen.
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It's just weird, Like YO, just give us that separately. So
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for those of you who feel my frustrations, well, all I did was
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take those six songs and make a playlist and call it Scary Hours three.
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And while I I don't have to, I don't have to go through for
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all the dogs this project is or this ep he or whatever or this release
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is again six songs uh, one feature being another song with J Cole.
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It's rapping Drake, like rapping Drake, not not Migo's flow, not I'm
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with twenty one getting your dudes, none of that, none of that trash.
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This is just straight rapping Drake. This is battle Drake right on this
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project. And I'm gonna see if I could line them up as far as
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who he dissed this Kanye, this Pusher he did Joe Button of course,
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and I feel like somebody else, but I can't remember who that is,
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which is kind of weird, because this dude, this is how we get
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good music from you, Joe, Butden gotta straight say your album's trash,
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and everybody else got to talk about it being trash, and the momentum die
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down, and now all of a sudden, you know you're kind of giving
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us what we want, Like this is what we want, man, do
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this get mad? Whatever it may be. So the songs on the album
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are or the EP is Red Buttons, Stories about my brother, The Shoe
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Fits Wickman either Ways featuring j Cole and You Broke My Heart. I do
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not skip, not one of those joints. Total time is twenty three minutes.
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Y'all know. I like the short, not that short album, but
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you know it's cool with me. I'm gonna be bumping this now. It's
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just gonna be in my top five of the year. I doubt it,
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but it's definitely a candidate for top ten. There's a lot of songs.
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I mean, the majority of it is a lot of reflections off of just
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things he don't like from dudes to on stories about my brother where I think
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he kind of you know. That's where the Joe Budden's stuff comes into play.
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The shoe fits is really crazy, though, really crazy, Like he's
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It's not that Drake is this technical bar Smith, right, or you gotta
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pull out your calculator and get the algorithm together to understand and be like,
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oh, he's a genius. No, it's just that the things that he
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has to say are very relatable to men and women and funny in some cases.
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I prefer this, Drake, right, don't make threats because nobody believes
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you. You may be capable of doing everything you say, but there's a
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lot of us who don't believe you. So don't do that in your music
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because we here for the music, not the other stuff. But when Drake
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does this, I'm here for it, Like it. And I'm a bigger
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fan of the R and B sing songie Drake more than the just because I
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like the production that typically surrounds those types of songs when he makes him.
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But this joint I really like. And just a sidebar, you know,
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there's a lot of albums one in which I'll be kind of talking about in
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another story that will release today from like Lil Wayne and two Chains having a
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joint together. Who else? Now I'm forgetting Danny Brown. So there's a
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couple of joints that all released today that are all worthy of checking out.
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But I went for Drake first when I was in a gym and I'm in
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a gym and I'm like, this is That's what I want to hear,
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Like I want to I want to give me a little soundtrack. This is
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This is as far as satisfaction, not the music. This is what I
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wanted from Meet Mill and Rick Ross. When I heard Shaq and Kobe their
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single, I thought, I'm I'm gonna be rocking this joint and nah man,
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it's like it was, well, you could just check him out of
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the video. I did a whole review on that. It's not bad,
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But this Drake joint is cool and it's only one feature, and I think
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that's I think it's pretty dope. So just so you know, if you
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are not a Drake fan, Scary Hours three will not make you one same
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guy, same emotional You know, I ain't gonna be your friend Drake.
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That's always been there. But guess what, we know people like him and
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that's what makes it relatable. That's fine. I make jokes about it,
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but you go look at my music collection. I got a lot of Drake
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joints because I'm not a hater. I like certain joints, and when I
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want to get my boom bat bag, I don't listen to Drake. Okay,
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I know who to go through for that. But if you like Drake,
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you like rapping Drake, like if you like zero, if you like
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zero to one hundred Drake, it's for the boom bat cats. Like Yo,
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I like that joint. I think you're like this. I think you
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will, but you let me know. In the common section below, legendary
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producer Eric Sermon says that hip hop is stuck in one place. Now.
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I think I saw this interview, so let's find out during this is I'm
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getting this from hip hop DX, and they're getting it from Say Word podcast.
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Let's see what he says and I quote, I just think that hip
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hop is just not hip hop. I just think that they should change the
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name. No disrespect, but that's not what it is. Wow. Hip
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hop can evolve, but this is not evolving. Evolving is Meley Mel to
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Rock Kim Stage to the Whole nine to Wu Tang to Murder Inc. No
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DMX that's evolving. You know camra On, you know Dipseid, that's evolving.
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Let me just give y'all a disclaimer and this is no shade. If
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Eric Simmon said, hey, I'd like to produce a six song EP with
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you, I'd be in his house right now because EPMD was my favorite group.
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Eric Summon is like my favorite producer for a long time. And you
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know, I just like funk and they use a lot of funk beats and
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stuff. So there you have it. He's a legend. But sometimes when
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I watch him in numerous interviews, it comes across sometimes as stream of consciousness,
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right, meaning he starts talking about a thing, and he talks about
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a lot of different things, and sometimes he can contradict himself. Now,
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maybe he didn't mean certain things in a certain way, and he didn't catch
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that. He said this earlier and now he's saying something else that's the opposite
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because it's stream of consciouence. He's just going, you know, so it's
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not like calling malaya or whatever. But sometimes I grain of salt when I
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hit play on an Eric Sermon interview. But the man has a point.
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Now. For the longest time, I didn't like the idea of, you
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know, basically looking at today's rap as a whole other genre, Like,
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don't call it hip hop, call it something else. But you can't do
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that. When the dude's are rapping. It may not be the raping you
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like, but what they're doing is rapping. They're not singing, they're not
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playing instruments, so they're not musicians. They're rapping. We just don't like
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it, right, We don't think it's good, right, but it's still
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hip hop. Is still rapping, so I get that. But the point
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it's not about how they make the music they make right. What they do
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is hip hop right, rapping, the beat, making sample and whatever it
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may be, it's hip hop. But I gotta agree there needs to be
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like a pause on it or A or let me just say this, the
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majority of the rappers today that are hot, they do not evolve the culture.
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They actually set it back right. And it's not about lyrical skill.
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It's the simple fact that in hip hop you cannot make a twenty song album
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and talk about the exact same thing on every song. Even still, they're
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those who may have three concepts on a twenty track project, right like oh
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no, he was talking about his mother on it when he said my mom
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a little bit. The whole song ain't about that fan he brought it up,
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but then he got back to races and ops and everything else that's always
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being said. The flows aren't evolving the culture. You know what I'm saying,
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because you could talk about what your time is, and I mean,
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it is what it is. Some things are gonna be similar to pastime or
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whatever, just you know, it's just twenty twenty three or whatever. But
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I just find it. I find what Eric Sermon's saying to be true.
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But you have to put an asterid next to it, because they are those
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that are evolving and are carrying a torch. But there's only but so much
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evolving you can do within a genre. Before you have to just start doing
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what was old, because what's old is new again. Remember you heard that
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before, right, what's old is new again? Sometimes that's what it takes
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for somebody to take something that's older and evolve it. So a lot of
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it is based off of something that came before it. But maybe you're just
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doing it in a new way, right, you're not carbon coppy, And
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maybe that's what he means, right, Like you know, there was rock
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Kim, but then it was Nas, right, similar cadence in some cases,
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probably similar flow at a point in time, but NAS's lyrical structure and
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ability was the next step of where rak Kim was or is or whatever.
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And I know in hip hop, you know, you can't open over complicated,
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you can't oversimplify it. You just you just have to go with it,
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right, Like for example, sample Griselda being popular is what's old is
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new again? I remember an article where Benny the Butcher said that they could
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have rapped over them trap beats like that and just did it because they knew
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that was the wave, Like yo, I could rap over that, I
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could do that, but they felt the need to do what they were doing,
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and then doing that because of the saturation on the radio of these one
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track rappers, these you know, one hit fly by Night. Even they
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fans don't even check for their second album like that. It was just too
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much of that. So the universe balanced the scales. Then you had Griselda,
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and you know, then that opened up the door for cats who already
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doing it, but now they got a brighter shine on them, like rock,
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Marciano, Stove, got Cooks, all these different like boombat dudes,
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they got a better look now because that appetite for boombab never left. It's
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just that most people who aren't you under the underground or at every show,
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in every forum on social media, who may love that music, have no
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idea or didn't that it existed today. They just thought what was on the
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radio was it. That's what hip hop is. I'm good at fam I'm
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ceover, I'm gonna be over here, right. But then when they got
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some appeal and some exposure and started working with other artists who you may like,
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well then you expose them. So I in some ways I agree with
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where hip hop is. I don't agree it's just stop because I think it's
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more diverse now. And there's nothing wrong with that evolving can only go but
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so far before it evolves back into what it was in some kind of way.
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And that's what's great about today because it's happening because we can name three
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we can name three artists right now that are totally different that have attention.
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And I'm not talking about the Big Three. I'm talking about let's just say
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Benny the Butcher, right he a throwback, boom back kind of dude.
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He's a throwback. Right. Then it's Tyler the Creator. He could he
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could do the boom back, but he could do a whole bunch of other
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different things. I mean, these are two different people. There's there's Migos,
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right. Migos used to get clumped together with all the mumble rap,
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But honestly, they had a flow that everybody else bit off of. What's
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more hip hop than that? Right? The flow was unique to them.
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And when you when you listen to because I listened to a couple of Dreams
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even I kind of liked the Solo Records albums as a whole more than their
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albums as a group. I kind of like songs here and there. Their
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subject matter wasn't I mean, it was some of the same don't get me
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wrong, from a certain generation, so you're gonna get some of that.
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But their personalities came through more. It wasn't. You didn't have to look
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at them in order to say, oh, he's different from him or him
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and him. It was what they would say. That's hip hop. Your
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identity is coming through in your music. Then. Plus they big Michael Jackson
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fans, so you already know. But that's dope. Right. So in
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a lot of ways, we have what we want right, we can't.
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We don't have to swing everything back to a certain type of hip hop that
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we grew up with because that's what we miss. All of it is available.
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You can ignore the other names I said and just say, yo,
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I just like Cole and Kendrick. That's what I listened to. Oh you
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know, if you don't want to hear any of them, you just want
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to hear no drums. It's interested rap like like a Bodie James. You
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can you know what I'm saying. And another example, just to end it
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off, you have a dude like Nas from another generation working with an artist
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from a younger generation and doing big things. So I think, and this
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has been happening a lot with a couple of cats from a certain error.
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I think they need to stop pretending everything is dead. I think they should
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not lead with that. Just put something out and make it crazy. Just
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put it out. Nobody asks for a hit, boy and nas. They
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wanted that King's Disease is coming out. We loved it, and then it
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became a thing. So like, at the end of the day, even
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though I agree with the notion of hip hop is stuck in some regards,
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there's a lot of what is a de evolution happening, like he says,
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with a part of the culture, but it doesn't necessarily dominate the culture,
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right, Like what you like, go out and support it, and all
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of it will grow all at the same time. And what's not really good
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and people get tired of it's going to fall off. So Dan, you
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have it. And lastly, if you do not know, Andre three thousand
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of Outcasts is back now recently, you may have seen him, you know,
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in viral videos in different places, just walking, you know, playing
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the flute, looking almost disheveled until you look down his feeding like, oh
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he stayed with a fresh bed. Jordans though, So it don't sleep because
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I beeped out. I was like, that's the same dude, look at
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his feet. But nevertheless, he's back and he has the long awaited solo
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album that people want it now. People like myself just want one last Outcast
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album. I don't care about solos. I think we kind of got that
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within their double album. But he's back and he has a solo album that
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just came out. It's an hour and twenty seven minutes, but it's only
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eight songs. Each song is a sentence, like literally, it's a sentence.
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But and the album's called New Blue Sun. But let me before you
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go ahead. The person that's under the rock who doesn't know any of this.
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It starts off at the top of description of this album. It says,
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warning, no bars. I'm not gonna read it anymore. It says
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no bars, warning, no bars. End quotes. It's a Fluke album,
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y'all. Yeah, he's playing the Fluke on record. And the category
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is not hip hop. It's also not jazz, says alternative. Now a
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young man that's as like myself. You know, I listened to all kinds
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of music. You know, if I'm intrigued enough about it, and if
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I hear something, I really like it, does not have to be boom
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Back. It doesn't have to be a different era rap. It doesn't have
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to be rap. If I like it, I like it, I'm gonna
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get it. I'm gonna listen to it. But this is not what people
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expected. Right for Damn near twenty years, people wanted the Outcast follow up.
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For Damn near twenty years, people wanted a Andre three thousand solo album.
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Now Big Boy has released a couple of solo albums that are great,
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but nobody listened. Why because it wasn't Outcast. But it's big Boy,
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we know him. But now it's Andre's turn. And then no bars on
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his album It's only Fluid, So okay, with all the jokes aside.
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I listened to his interview on All Songs Considered, which was an exclusive.
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I don't think they did the interview. I think somebody else did the interview
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and they got the exclusive rights to the audio or whatever. But nevertheless,
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I listened to that before the album came out, and from the mouth of
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Andree three Stacks himself, he said, no bars. He said, why
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he's been playing the flute, why he's choosing to do this instead of a
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solo rap album. Why won't he rap like The interview was great because it
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answered all the questions that people like to make up answers for without even asking
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the questions. Right, the man is saying it himself, so you can
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stop making up your own stuff on Twitter. This is what he said about
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everything you brought up. But it's not just him playing the flute, mind
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you. I haven't listened to the entire album yet, you know, but
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I already know from what he described, and you know what I skimmed through
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to begin with. He basically essentially has a band playing with him, not
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a big band, but he has other players with him, right, somebody
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own percussion and all that, So it's not just flute music. But I
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will say about people who are upset or overplaying Andre three thousands project, especially
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before it came out. I think sometimes some people are so in love with
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the definition of artistry that they don't recognize it when they hear it or see
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it. Right. They don't pay attention to the actual meaning. They're just
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in love with the idea of the meaning. They're in love with the idea
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that this dude just put the overcoat on and walked outside with the Jordans on
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it kind of looked like Omar from the Wires a couple of times when I
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saw kind of did but with the flute, and they saw that, like,
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oh, he's free. Then there are those like myself because I like
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the joke. But then there are those that kind of take it too far
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where you know they they're laughing at it. What's crazy is that he's fully
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aware of all of that and you don't care because he is a true artist.
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For him, it's about expressing himself, not compared to his former work,
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not compared to anybody else who's ever played the flute. That's what social
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media. That's what y'all do on social media. Y'all argue about things that
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weren't even brought up because somebody dumb said he's the greatest flute player ever,
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and we like, whoa you ever heard of Bobby Humphreys? What you talk
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about? Okay, But I will say this, I'm a music fan.
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I talk a lot about hip hop. I've done a lot of hip hop
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things. I mean, when you see me in my casual clothes, I
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am hip hop. When you see me, you already know I probably like
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hip hop when you see me, and you'll be right. But again,
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my music collection contains everything from Kid Cuddy to Jimmy Hendrix to Prince to Michael
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Jackson to Diddy. Ain't gonna talk about it, Stevie Wonder you know what
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I'm saying, Like Travis Barker, you know, rage against the Machine,
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Lenny Kravitz. I like what I like, I just do, and I'm
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open to listen to artists do their thing now. I'm not gonna be one
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of those dudes who are brainwashed and try to make it seem like it's better
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than it is. I listen to Lului Yati's rock album and guess what,
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it's better than his rap music. I'm sorry. I liked it a lot,
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and I'm like, why don't you just do this? Like stop stop
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doing hip hop? You are not good at that, but I think you
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kind of cool on this, so you should do this. So again,
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if I could listen to lul Yachty's rock album and give them a chance when
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I've never liked them as a rap artist, I could listen to someone who
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I think is one of the greatest MC's of all time in one of the
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greatest groups of all time. I can listen to him play the flute.
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It's fine. Now, not eight records eight tracks of solo food playing.
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I cannot do that. But if it's good, it's good. So I
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don't choose to review it on here. That's why I hadn't listened to it
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yet, you know, because if you're gonna make alternative music, that's more
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like ambient sound, and you know, it's kind of more like to me.
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It's one of those things where if you're jazz had or you like bands
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when you go to shows, some of us watched the bands like we watched
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them play the instruments, We watched them do their thing and how they create
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the sounds. So this is cool. I just hope there's enough there that
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I can hear without having to be at a show and see them do it,
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right. I think I'm going to if it. If it happens,
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I think I'm going to try to go to a show for three stacks because
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I want to see I want to see him play, and I want to
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see the other cats in the band play. But I will say this,
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this is hip hop. This is a hip hop podcast, and I feel
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like there's nothing wrong for anybody who's wanted a Auree three thousand or outcast album
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on this long to be somewhat disappointed. You can't be upset, but you
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can be disappointed. But I say to that he's given you a lifetime's work
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of classic material, whereas some artists, some rappers, cannot even give you
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one. So enjoy the music he gave y'all. And if you feel open
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enough to listen to alternative music or jazz or whatever people want to call it,
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even though it's labeled as an alternative, then check it out. But
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don't wait for him to say forever, ever, forever. He's not going
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to say it's gonna be straight flutes, fam, So you're gonna it's go
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ahead, his flutes when you be ready for the flute? Okay, follow
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me on Twitter and all of that, and I'll probably give my opinion once
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I really get a chance to listen to it, but I don't know.
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Leave your comments in the comments section below. Let me know. You know.
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Are you mad or you listen to the flute album, You're like,
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yo, I kind of like flutes, now, let me know. Okay,
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let me know. Also, subscribe to the channel hit that like button
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you share it, we can all have the same conversation right here. All
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right. That's gonna do for me until next time, y'all. I'm not
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a critic, I'm a fan, and I don't play the flute. Pas