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#387 - For Azeroth!: "Customer Service Woes" · For Azeroth!: A World of Warcraft Podcast

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I'm terrified someone's going to hear it up to that part and then
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immediately hit stop and go eat a next card.
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Do not take next card. Victory for the Forsaken for
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Lauderon for the Karen Tour for Pandaria for Calendar to the
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Burning region. For Gilneus, but has not died.
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For the Lynch king. For the the.
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Cindora for the Alliance, for the Core, for Azeroth.
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Hello and welcome to another episode of For Azeroth.
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I'm one of your hosts, John, and today I am joined by the one and
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only Flex Rance. Flex.
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Thanks for being here. And how's the World of Warcraft
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been treating you? It's been treating me well.
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I do appreciate the way you phrase that made it seem like
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Manny was the second Lex Rance. Like if, if he was here, I
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wouldn't have been the one and only Lex Rance, 'cause there
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would have been 2. That's right, yeah.
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The world. Was treating me good.
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We're my raiding team is where we have a couple officers
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traveling and stuff. So we're on a little bit of a
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raid break, but we did do a heroic pug re clear on Monday,
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which is very fun. You know, get to shake off a
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little dust and get a couple crests and move on with it.
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We are on Crown right now, so we will be hopefully pushing past
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that and moving into Bellerin. We've got the the little spiky
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horn guy who by the way, I think is such a cutie.
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I think that he just needs a little family.
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Like yeah, I think he needs to be rescued.
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He needs a little snuggly bed and a bowl full of yummy treats.
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I think he's a little bike. I have no idea who you're
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talking about. What spiky horn guy?
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Did Guy with the little the undreamed God?
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What's his name? Oh, Guy Maris, Guy Maris I had.
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That is the worst description of that boss I have ever heard.
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The little spiky whore I was like it should have been
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Paladin's before Crown of the Cosmos.
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What? What?
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Spiky horned. I get it now, he has the one
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horn. He might be an antler.
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Whoever got mad at me for not knowing about crawfish might get
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mad at me for that one too. Yeah, our we definitely have
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some listeners that are like big into the animal genealogy and
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making sure we're using proper terminology for for what species
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and everything they are. So Chimeris, that's definitely
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an antler because it's wide and flat and looks like it's from a
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moose. Congrats on Chimeris.
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I wanted to ask, I've actually been really curious, did you
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guys normally do a blind frog boss?
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But you were going blind for like most of this tear, right?
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So we try, we did normal blind. We did end up watching videos.
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I think if I remember correctly, it was around the around
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Paladins that we, we started watching videos again 'cause it
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was just getting tough and we were like, this is not something
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we really want to figure out on our own.
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I don't know what our plan is going to be for the next year.
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I think I personally was feeling a little frustrated with it.
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I think it was less fun than I was used to.
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I think I didn't, which is crazy because when I was hearing about
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the add-ons going away, I was like, this is going to be so fun
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and amazing because it's what I really want.
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Right? Like I, I, you know, every time
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it tells me like, oh, that's a stack.
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I'm like, oh, but we're doing a blind and I think that I might
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have actually been enjoying having normal be a little bit of
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a face roll more than I thought. But I don't know if that's
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universal for the team. So we'll probably have some
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conversations among the officers.
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We'll have some conversations with the team and make a
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decision and also see what next tier looks like.
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This tier was a particularly mechanic heavy tier.
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I felt like like that first boss was a lot of mechanics for a
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first boss, which like, you know, Oh no, my steak is too
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juicy, right? Like my raid bosses are too fun.
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But I it it it felt like everything they were kind of
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flexing the fact that they could do like they're like, oh, look
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at all these mechanics that we can do even though you don't
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have weak auras. So it it felt more challenging
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to do blind than I was used to. Yeah, I could see that.
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We do have weak auras at home though, we have Timu weak auras.
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So that's. We we we all went DBM at
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Dragons. I like we were so like that.
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That is the most like wall boss. I've hit like that early in a
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tier, which I think I think we're doing some stuff wrong.
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Like I don't think it was just that, but it just and once we
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got DBM and it started announcing the fears better, we
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were like, OK. When you guys are getting ready
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for Midnight Falls for Lura Prague let me know.
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There is a very popular guide channel that put out a video
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that I I don't think is the best plan and I actually made one for
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Dayglo, another build that I know that I think is better and
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I will send it to you. You can send it to your officers
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if they're interested in it. It just really makes that fight
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a lot more assistant. And I think I don't want to say
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the name on on the air because I really like the channel that I I
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think they actually missed on a couple of bosses this year, but
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they're pretty popular. So you are probably watching
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them for tips, but I will send you some details after for for a
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way to make that boss a little bit easier.
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And I have a little fun video you can watch it says hi day
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glow in the video. Just we can dub over that and we
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can just say hi. Timbermont Tavern.
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Hell yeah, Hell yeah. I'll do it too.
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So just to make sure, it's like you're super smooth.
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They'll never, they'll never know.
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Yeah, so we can even just have you pre, you can just rerecord
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all of the vocals and just be like, hey guys, I just threw
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this together. This is just something I threw
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together quick little. A quick little thing.
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Yeah, me, my like right in the bottom of the DPS charts.
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But I figured out who wrote it super easy, so let's get it all
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done. Yeah, press me.
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It works perfect. Yeah.
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I will, I will say Taldenos I think is some of my favorite
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bosses in at least in the very much with a tier.
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I went into Taldenos, like not super in love with it.
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I didn't, I, I can't really verbalize why I didn't love Void
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Spire, but I didn't love Void Spire.
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I thought it was frustrating and, and just like anything that
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was feeling challenging just felt annoying instead of like,
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Oh yeah, we're going to like figure it out and do it a little
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bit more perfectly. And then we went to Ballarat and
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I'm like, this is the most, this is the best thing that's ever
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happened to me. This is amazing.
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This is perfect. It sucks, it's horrible.
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We're all dying. But also I'm having a good time
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and like, this feels like a thing that I can figure out if I
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sit and I play with the puzzle enough.
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And I, I do think L'ura was a fun box too.
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I'm, I'm excited to hit her on heroic and and see what that
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looks like. Yeah, she's a fun fight.
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She's a fun fight. Bella Ren is I think is my
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favorite fight of the Tear, if I'm being honest.
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I really on all three difficulties, normal, heroic,
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mythic, it just feels fun. And I wonder if part of it is
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because it's the only one that's kind of in like a bright, openly
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lit courtyard where everything else is like boidy and purple
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and kind of dim. Or we have a little spiky boy in
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his like, gloomy, foggy dream rift.
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But Bella Ran is like, here's his beautiful, brightly lit
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courtyard. The boss himself is gorgeously
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lit. I wonder if that has an impact
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that we don't realize on why we like that fight more because it
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is punishing on tanks. Oh, I can't even imagine.
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Well, I, I think it also, to be fair, the, the mechanics are
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hard. They're mostly personal
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responsibility, right? Like you, I, I guess the soaps
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can get a little bit messy and funky, but it's less of a like
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one person is going to wipe the entire raid, but it is like
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you've got to focus up or you are cooked right.
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Like they will not give you a, a second chance if you screw that
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up or stand the wrong place. But it's, it's very distinct
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color. So, you know, it is extremely
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doable. Yeah.
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I, I, I think it is frustrating when a boss feels like, Oh my
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God, I like, you know, moved 1/2 inch too much or I thought, I
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thought that was the blue in the, the, the officers called
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for me to go over to purple and I didn't realize what like that
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we were saying different things like, Oh my God, the two
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Dragons. We learned very early that we
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have different definitions of blue and purple.
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So we have, but now we call them the Dark One and the Light 1.
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Yeah, that's way they're 'cause they're both purple Lex.
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Yeah, well, I, I people were saying like, go to the blue one.
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I'm like. No.
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Girl. No, they're both.
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They're both purple. Dark and Light works.
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You can use their names, Valgor and Nazerac.
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That works too. Dark and Light's probably
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easier. It's definitely not a blue 1
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though. That person should get checked.
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Let's you want to roll out of some news.
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We're talking about the raid. We might as well hit some raid
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news while we're at it. Let's chat about it.
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What's going on with the? Raid All right, so the Hall of
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Fame for March Hall of Fame for Dream Roof was already closed.
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Void Spire closed and as of this Tuesday reset.
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So yesterday, as of our recording, the Hall of Fame for
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March on Queldonas has officially closed.
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So 200 guilds hit the kill mark I think around Sunday.
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And then there's always some scragglers once they see that
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200 that you see teams putting overtime in trying to push, it's
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always or not always, but usually a little bit above 200
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teams to get that cut off. And that has officially closed.
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And when that closed, that also triggered the next round of
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nerfs for Lura. And they are, they're pretty
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significant nerfs. We have Heaven's Glades so this
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was already nerfed on heroic, but Heaven's glaves maximum
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duration was reduced to one minute from 2 minutes.
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What this means is that's huge, huge change.
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So in P1 the the boss shoots out these glaves and when they were
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lasting for two minutes it meant 2 sets of glaves would overlap.
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So you would have to be dodging and glaves at a time, bouncing
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around the arena like beyblades. It was craziness, and that's a
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very old boy. You probably have never heard of
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Lex but Beyblades. Were extremely popular my my
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Guild describes every mechanic like this is beyblades.
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I this is literally where I learned about beyblades.
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It's just the fact that constantly they're like, this is
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the Beyblades. I love it.
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They also reduce the spread so that's a huge.
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So that change means you're only ever going to have 5 glaves
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bouncing around at a time. The glaves in P1 are like P1 is
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like wipe fest. And those glaves are the biggest
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reason why. But those gone, that's less
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chance of a glave hitting a crystal, less chance of a glave
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hitting a person and sparking soaks, all all kinds of stuff.
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Less chance of those glaves killing somebody.
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That's a huge change that everybody I think was expecting.
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And then we also saw a reduction on the spread of the midnight
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crystals on mythic difficulty though L'ura spawns in, in
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normal heroic, she spawns prismatic safeguards, those 3
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prisms that that rotate around her and decrease damage.
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She takes until they're interrupted 4 times and then
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they explode into these crystals on mythic.
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They're not a safeguard prism, they're like a damaged prism and
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they increase your damage done by 33% while they're alive till
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they get interrupted and you have to then they explode in
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crystals. Right now it made it so that you
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you didn't need three death Knights, but it it made it a lot
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easier if you had three death Knights because the the last set
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of those crystals, because there's no Don crystals to spawn
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from that set, they explode more.
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Though there's extra things to grip.
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What teams have been doing if they're only running two death
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Knights is using a series of knocks to bring them in closer
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and then trying to DPS them down that way.
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They're decreasing that spread, so they're going to shoot out
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less far, which means 2D KS will be will be more than enough to
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use their raid buff. And then star splinter damage.
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That's the intermission when you get the stars on you.
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The initial hit from that was reduced by 20% of I think
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difficulty and criticality. That's the circles in P2 was
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also reduced by 20%. So those to just make it like
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the criticality change means you might be able to survive an
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overlap maybe, but those should make prog easier.
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The biggest change though is that Heaven's Glades, because
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it's going to let teams get 2P2 and P3 more consistently.
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Big changes, very happy for that.
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Do you air if it gets easier, does that you even register?
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I just realized I'm telling you I'm out.
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Like I'm excited about these changes and you're I'm realizing
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you're probably giving them no thought at all.
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I, I mean, I think I like, obviously it doesn't directly
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affect me and my life, but I, I want the first of all, first of
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all, I love getting in other people's business.
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That makes me so happy. I love having opinions about
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things that do not affect me in any way, because when things
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affect me, then I actually, you know, it matters, right?
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But if not, I can just experience the joy of, you know,
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rage. We all love it.
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We all, we all love that. So, so I, but also, I mean, you
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know, I have friends who do obviously you and I have the
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young people who do mythic raid and I want that.
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I I understand that not everyone is AOTC only Raider and so I
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want the game to be healthy because I don't want our top
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players to not be having a good time right?
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Like the people who dedicate a lot of time to the game I think
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should be hopefully having fun. I had the energy of like, yeah,
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I have friends, but you wouldn't know them, they're from Canada.
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To actually, I think the people I am thinking are from Canada.
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I love it. Yeah.
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So those, those are some changes.
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No changes to Heroic, but Heroics already had a few rounds
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of nerfs, so it should be in a pretty progable state.
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I'm excited to see you guys get there and track that 'cause I
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think it'll be a lot of fun. And we're working on L'ura now,
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so I'm also excited for us. I'm very excited.
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Did you? You got HOF on Voidspire, right?
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No, we got HOF on Dream Rift, Spiky horn guy.
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Yeah, we got Dreamers, spiky horn guy.
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HOF We missed HOF on Void Spire. I want to say it by two resets,
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but I don't know exactly, but it's it's around the two reset
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mark is when we missed it. We're not.
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I mean, we only raid two nights a week and there it's Tuesday
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and Sunday or sorry, it's Thursday and Sunday, which makes
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it harder because when you raid that, when you raid later in the
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week, your world ranking or your US ranking.
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It's here's a fun side fact. Nobody ever says they're EU
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rank. And I have a theory as to why.
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So whenever you go, if you go to there's a recruitment Guild, a
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recruitment discord, you go there, there's, it's like the NA
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recruitment discord. It'll teams will be posting and
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they will post what their world rank is if their world rank is
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good, but a lot of them will just post their NA ranks.
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So they'll be like, oh, it's NA rank 150, and they go, what's
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your world rank 0500, 600? Oh, imagine being 500 in the
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world. But it's funny of shit.
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Why this is funny to me is that a lot of NA teams only ever
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function in their NA, right? They don't ever mention their
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there's just we're looking for Raiders who have experience in
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an NA 200 + 200, a better Guild. Nobody, no, nobody on NA ever
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says what world, but on EU all they mention is world because.
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And here's my theory. They know that the world rank is
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so much better because every like EU teams just seem to crush
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the NA teams for the most part. So they're like, well, we're
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just going to put our world rank because we know if we put our EU
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rank, it's still much higher than what the NA teams would be.
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So they're just going to put their world.
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It's like this weird flex that happens that I don't think
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people are like physically or mentally aware of happening.
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But it's like if you will, if any EU team at all, they only
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ever give their ranks an E in in world ranks.
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But NA teams will either only give NA ranking or will give
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both but they always mention that NA rank.
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It's so weird to me anyway. That is very fun.
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I I'm also really curious about the fact that the EU seems to be
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so much better than NA at video games.
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It's a larger player base. I think that that factors into
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it. They have better, yeah.
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Than the US plus Canada. Yeah, EU is larger than NA and
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OCE and at the risk of potentially offending some
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people. Europe has better social
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infrastructure though. People are able to spend more
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quality time playing, they're doing their hobbies and and
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engaging that way. Whereas North America has, well,
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not as great social infrastructure for people.
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I'm trying so hard not to make people angry and leave the show
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for political takes. This isn't a take, this is a
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fact. Oh yeah, I'll, I'll second this.
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I I was wondering if it was that was kind of my gut too.
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Is that it's just, you know, you have more access to to time and
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and. Yeah, when you have to work 7
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jobs just to pay your rent, it's makes it hard to have time to,
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to game unless I, I mean, we should all move to New York.
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They're doing anyway. That's not that's not this kind
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of show. Thumbs up for New York, though.
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We. Oh yeah.
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We stand New York more. We're going to switch.
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We're going to pivot. We're pivoting.
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Hey, if you haven't turned us off yet, we're pivoting.
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Relax. We're pivoting.
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There's I I want to, I'm excited to get L'ura down and I assume
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you are excited to get working on Ballarat and get L'ura
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because we have 12 point O .7 coming up.
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Spore fall is launching. That's the new one boss rate and
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we had some PTR testing. Did you have a chance to either
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do the testing or see any of the videos of the boss?
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No, this is all. This is all new to me.
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Have you I assume? I didn't test it.
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I have sworn off testing this expansion because of the
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personal protest. I've sworn off.
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I don't need to. If you've listened to the show
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for more than one episode, you know why.
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But I, I didn't, but I didn't watch testing of it and it looks
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fun. It looks to be a boat, the
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challenge level I expected, which is not much of one at all.
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And I think that's important because it's launching on June
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16th. Not confirmed, but I'm if you're
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listening to the show, you can write that down.
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It's June 16th. Blizzard hasn't announced it
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yet. I'm telling you, June 16th is
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when that badge is coming. All of the everything points to
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that date. So if it's not June 16th, I will
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do an episode where I only speak in Klingon.
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Yeah, I had the Did you not get the Klingon dictionary when you
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were a child to learn because French was too easy?
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No, we were the, we were the like Baller's Gate and like
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Renfair style of nerds. We did watch some Voyager, but
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never honestly. That was also when I was a
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little, a little past the age when I would have learned
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Klingon. Are you like fluent?
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Wait, can you like say something?
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I'm not gonna. I'm not a monkey that will Just
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Dance for your entertainment. Lex, this is I have to get my
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prediction wrong for the Klingon episode to happen.
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All right. Sounds like something that
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someone who doesn't speak Klingon would say.
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Well that's what a non Klingon speaker would think.
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And I'll, I'll, I'll own that I'm not pretending that I know
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how to speak Klingon because I got the Klingon dictionary when
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I was a kid. War of all anyway, looks like
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it's fun. It's going to drop 259 to 298
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item level gear depending on what difficulty you do it at,
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which is 9 item levels higher than the current tier.
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So if you are already done the rain and you're looking forward
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to your break of the race are you looking for?
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If you're Break of Warcraft, you're ready to log back in on
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June 16th and from that boss at least once a week.
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But it looks like fun. Yeah.
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Well, that that one, we're excited because that's the one
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where we might be able to do Flex Mythic.
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I don't know that we've made a decision on our raid team as to
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whether or not we're going to do flex Mythic, but I mean, it
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would be fun, right, If we could push a little further.
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I think I'm, I'm, if you're wondering who's voting what in
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the Timbermont Tavern officer team Lex is voting that we like,
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we try, right? We see what happens.
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We dip our little toes in. She's voting voting pro mythic
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flex and also to kick Trevor. She's had enough of his
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bullshit. Absolutely, Trevor, you're on
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the thin ice. As I said that I was like, man,
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I hope there's no Trevor on her team and if there is, this is a
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hard way for them to find out if.
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There is. I don't know their their real
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life name unless yeah no. OK, All right, We're saying
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Trevor. That was a close one.
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The close one from Mondani to Trevor.
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We're going to keep rolling. We're going to go into updates
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of bug fixes. Lex, we had an update.
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I complained last week about crests and being capped and how
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it sucks and Blizzard probably didn't hear me but maybe they
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did because. Fast stuff is back.
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Fast stuff. It's like, all right, you guys
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had your little whiny episodes. I will listen to you once you're
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like a little bit through that. Yeah, that's right.
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So we have uncrept, uncrept uncapped crests now, so you can
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farm to your heart's content. You can use your bonus rolls to
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get your mythic drops from plus 10s and spam that and get get
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maxed out and get ready for these this new raid sport file
21:33
that's coming or to continue your Prague that you're going on
21:35
Lex. Now that crests are on cap, are
21:37
you like ready to dive into mythic plus and go full beast
21:39
mode? Yeah, that was why I wasn't
21:41
doing Mythic Plus and why I wasn't pushing all my twelves is
21:44
I was just like, I mean, crests are caps, man.
21:50
Does this have any effect on you at all?
21:53
The. Maybe I think I maybe capped one
21:58
of my crests, but also also no I'm not.
22:04
How do I put this? I'm not very good.
22:07
So am I capping my crests? Not really.
22:11
Does your does your Guild have like a require?
22:13
Like is there requirements like you must do these things to be
22:17
on this raid team We. Will set gear requirements as
22:23
needed. We'll often have one early on
22:25
just to give people an idea of this is what you have to grind
22:28
up to for your first grade and then it'll kind of honestly
22:31
depend a little bit on whether or not we feel like we have to
22:33
keep it up. So right, honestly, right now, I
22:36
don't think that we have a stated you have to have X gear
22:38
level, but like there, there's an expectation that we're, you
22:42
know, trying, right. But we we do, you know, we are a
22:48
we like to say full adult team, which means that we all have
22:52
lives and things come up. This has been probably one of my
22:57
worst tiers. I think I've I've fallen pretty
23:02
heavily off of mythic plus and also just, you know, I now have
23:06
a ton of fun new life projects with the house and the dog and
23:09
everything that makes it harder to keep up with things.
23:12
But no, for like for like weekly chores.
23:15
No, we do not have a. You know you have to do XYZ
23:20
things per week. Remember my Tavern Rated A for
23:25
adult. Exactly, exactly.
23:28
I I was trying to figure out how to word that in a way that
23:30
didn't make it seem like we were just like the porn Guild.
23:33
But yeah, yeah. You're welcome.
23:37
Adult was the one that I I didn't give that vibe at all.
23:41
No, no, I too have spent some time around them, adult guilds
23:46
and films, and they're both good.
23:49
Wait, do you? Does your Guild have a like
23:51
requirement of things you have to do every week?
23:53
It's so there's not a hard requirement.
23:58
Like there's no, I don't think there's any rules written
23:59
anywhere. But our team has a culture of if
24:05
you're on this team, you will do everything you can to increase
24:09
your power gain week to week. As long as it's still effective
24:13
and worth the time, though, because of that, everybody full
24:16
bull caps their vault on dungeons every week and early
24:22
season we do delves or whatever gives us a chance for tear, that
24:24
kind of stuff. And then as time goes on, we
24:29
have a we use wow audit to track who's done what and our Wade
24:32
leader will throw out reminders. OK, groups are running at these
24:37
times. If you need to get ease in, you
24:39
need to farm gear, reach out, you know, join them.
24:41
One of these groups get into them.
24:43
There's no like hard, it's not written down anywhere do this.
24:47
But I think if you weren't doing those things, you would probably
24:52
there. I imagine there would be a
24:53
conversation to find out why, what the issue was.
24:56
And because we're all laser focused on one task, it's I
25:01
think one of the strengths of our team is that everybody is
25:04
rowing in the same direction and has that same mentality of
25:07
being, being above all. And I think a lot of us have a
25:11
crippling sense of letting people down, a crippling fear of
25:14
letting people down. So that's why we do that.
25:17
But there are, there are other teams that I've been part of
25:20
where they did have like a weekly requirement.
25:22
I was in a Guild called Fates are Forged on EU and they were
25:25
like, hey, you just have to get 3 choices in your vault that are
25:28
hero track or better from the vault.
25:31
And they, but their requirements only lasted during Prague.
25:34
They're an AOTC only team and their Prague only lasts
25:37
typically between three and five weeks.
25:39
So after that, the the things fall off, the requirements fall
25:41
off. I think both works.
25:44
I mean, obviously it's working for, for you, whatever.
25:46
Like as long as it's, as long as everybody on the team is, is
25:50
going with that same mentality, like tip of my tab and
25:52
everybody's like, OK, we want to get better, you know, and
25:54
they're all moving at like sort of the same level.
25:56
I think that I think that is good.
25:59
And if you have to put it in writing and put it in writing,
26:01
that works too. I don't think there's a right or
26:03
wrong answer for it. I guess the wrong answer is if
26:06
there are no requirements and you're screaming at people for
26:08
not doing as hard, like, you know, there's no requirements
26:10
and I'm feeling my vault every week and you're not and I'm mad
26:13
at you for not doing it. Like, well, this is the team
26:15
requirements, pal. Like it's don't be mad at me
26:18
because I'm doing what we're asking.
26:20
Right. I, I think that is really big.
26:21
I think it's really important to make sure that everyone's kind
26:25
of clear, especially among the officers as to what we think of
26:30
as the, the culture and the expectations.
26:32
Because yeah, it wouldn't, it's not fair to be like, Oh yeah,
26:35
like whatever, we don't have gear requirements.
26:37
And then, you know, start sitting people or like making
26:40
comments or getting upset when people are not or, or, or
26:44
believing you. Right.
26:46
Especially in a something like a a video game where there's going
26:50
to be a lot of different way, like, you know, levels of well,
26:53
first of all, you know, a lot of different ways that people
26:55
experience fun. The fact that it is a video
26:57
game, that it's not that deep, but also, you know, people
27:01
communicate differently and some people are more, you know,
27:05
direct than others. And I think in if you are
27:08
managing a group of humans who are trying to play a game
27:14
together, at the very least the leaders need to be capable of
27:16
being very explicit and clear. Yeah, yeah, it's, it's all about
27:22
expectation setting. You set those expectations and
27:25
then hold everybody accountable to the same thing.
27:27
It's so important. It's weird 'cause it's like
27:30
there's just so many, you hear so many horror stories of toxic
27:33
guilds and, you know, cliques that formed and these, you know,
27:35
this show, this Guild was like this and this was like this.
27:37
And I got I got benched for this or I got kicked out for this, or
27:40
this person was allowed to treat everybody like this and nothing
27:42
was done. It's just like, there's so many
27:45
better options out there. Just, I promise you, just it
27:48
seems scary. Like it's like when you have a
27:50
job that sucks, you're like, oh, man, I have this job that sucks,
27:52
but it's better than not having any job.
27:54
Well, I promise you, if you're in a Guild that sucks, it is not
27:56
better than than having no guilt.
27:57
And you'll find a new Guild anyway.
28:01
Yeah. Some of the things people put up
28:02
with, man, I am, I, yeah, I there are.
28:06
There are others. Yeah, let's keep rolling, Lex.
28:10
Manny usually scripts us out for us, but I am not Manny.
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29:37
Lex. This next topic, I was, I was
29:39
nervous of putting this on here 'cause you and I both have a
29:42
proclivity of a cursing. So we're going to talk about
29:48
this. This is a event that took place
29:51
on Twitter this week, and it is. It revolves around the F word.
29:57
And Lex and I are going to attempt to do this without using
29:59
the F word so that I have to go through it.
30:03
Fun. Yeah, fun.
30:04
We'll say fun. So there was a person.
30:07
This happens a lot. So somebody went on Twitter and
30:09
said, hey, I got banned. It wasn't justified.
30:12
And I'm getting nothing but canned AI responses from
30:16
customer service. You suck.
30:19
Expletive, expletive, expletive, which I got to be honest with
30:22
you, when your tweet about customer service being bad is
30:26
full of curse words at customer service, I immediately think
30:29
that your ban is probably justified immediately.
30:34
And they always, when you get banned, they give you a like
30:37
they give you, they send you a transcript like, hey, you were
30:39
banned for this action or for this communication.
30:42
And it tells you, and shockingly enough, this individual, who I
30:46
won't name, but this individual throughout the week admitted
30:50
that they had been suspended multiple times in the past, but
30:54
they hadn't been suspended in two years, though.
30:56
So they're a good boy now. But they did not link any of the
31:01
chat logs that supposedly were, you know, given to them when
31:03
they were told they were given a suspension.
31:05
PJ from the blue to customer service team went on and said,
31:09
hey, I had to look at the chat logs.
31:10
And you have a fondness for the F bomb.
31:13
And even one, if reported, can be enough to get you banned.
31:16
And then Twitter lost their mind.
31:19
I don't really know where to go to go from there.
31:23
So it was the back of it was it was a week of people saying, oh,
31:26
I can't say F, but you guys called Sylvanas.
31:29
I don't know what words were allowed to swear, what words
31:33
were not, You know, you, you called Sylvanas that word.
31:37
Mccree is walking around and not Mccree anymore.
31:39
What's he called now? Shoot the cowboy from Overwatch.
31:44
Yeah. I, I it changed his name Dustin.
31:47
We're going to call him Dustin. Dustin has BAMF on his audacity.
31:52
Thanks. Shout out the goblin reference
31:54
in the chat. I call him.
31:55
Dustin's a better name. Dustin Cassidy is probably his
31:57
full name. He has BAMF on his belt buckle.
32:01
Gracer calls people a wanker. So people were like, oh, all of
32:04
this happens, but it's not fair. It seems like it felt like
32:09
people like like intentionally took sections of their brains
32:12
out to jump through hoops to avoid the fact that this person
32:15
was probably using the F word in a, in an aggressive way towards
32:20
other people as opposed to just saying, oh, you know, hey, that
32:23
was effing awesome. Or hey, you know, I, I feel like
32:29
cursing the context matters. Context matters.
32:32
And cursing in like just saying the F word is probably not going
32:35
to get you banned, but probably someone an F an idiot.
32:38
Dang they should F and die calling them effing terrible TB
32:42
like that matters. And based on screenshots and
32:45
things that came out afterwards with this individual, I suspect
32:48
that that's what they were doing.
32:51
I don't know if a shirt, I don't know if a shirt, so I don't want
32:53
to say for sure, but why do people like they went through
32:57
these mental gymnastics to be on the side of this person they
33:00
don't know to say Blizzard was awful without any of the
33:02
background context. Lex, help me figure out why.
33:04
Tell me why so? I'm going to steal a man them.
33:06
I'm going to steal a man strangers on Twitter a little
33:08
bit, probably more than I need to.
33:10
I so ever since Blizzard laid off their entire customer
33:15
service team consistently, it has been like I, I, I have heard
33:20
like very regular reports of like insane like it it it first
33:26
of all, you can now just mass support somebody out of the
33:28
game. I don't know where what came of
33:30
this, but I do remember the the Guild gamers GAYMERS was saying
33:36
that their name like they got reported so much that they're
33:39
they had to like lose their name and they were they were pushing
33:43
hard. I found this on Reddit because
33:45
they were like starting a like, you know, we're all so I, I, I
33:48
don't know if customer service has responded, but that sort of
33:51
thing where like you can really Zerg report someone out and
33:54
often people cannot really access a real customer service
33:58
person or somebody really understands it.
34:02
So I think there's a lot of frustration around Blizzard
34:04
customer service right now. And so to be honest, my initial
34:09
take on reading this whole situation is like, I don't love
34:14
the new take. Like this is global.
34:16
This is not just Blizzard, but of like customer service, like
34:21
dunking on people or trying to like get the last word.
34:24
And it was a kind of on the the edge sort of situation.
34:28
But I, I do think that's kind of a little bit what was happening.
34:32
Like the customer service guy was trying to throw out a like,
34:35
oh, you thought that you were going to, you know, talk shit
34:37
about customer service. But like, I can see your logs,
34:40
which I and I, I, I also want to be super clear, like, I, I, I
34:43
first of all, I've worked in like customer service roles.
34:46
I understand what it feels like to have people just yelling at
34:49
you constantly. And especially if there was, you
34:52
know, context that was like, yeah, I to be fair, when I saw
34:55
the original tweet too, I was like, yeah, there's an AI
35:00
problem, but I'm a little sneaky.
35:02
So spishy that you were not caught up with the AI problem,
35:05
my man. So like, I do get it.
35:09
I am sympathetic to the the customer service person, but in
35:14
my opinion, that is kind of unprofessional customer service,
35:18
right? And I think the but like, on the
35:22
other hand, like what? What I, I think that the way
35:25
that you should like companies like that should be handling
35:29
customer service issues like this is you can maintain high
35:33
levels of professionalism online when communicating with
35:36
customers and you don't have to pull the like, Oh, but look, we
35:39
have your records and you actually were an asshole because
35:41
you've proven consistently to your, your customer base that
35:46
you can listen and you can like, you know, it, it, people aren't
35:50
getting banned unfairly, right? People know that if they are,
35:53
you know, Zerg reported, then they can talk to an actual
35:57
person and they'll fix the problem.
36:00
And if your customer service has a reputation for being strong,
36:05
then you don't really have to worry about dunking on people
36:08
because your fan base will do it.
36:10
Of course, you're right. Like, they'll be the ones to
36:12
come and be like, Oh, I bet you just got banned because you, you
36:15
know, you got a hideout. And I think that right now
36:18
Blizzard customer service doesn't have that right.
36:21
So yeah, I, I, I, I think it speaks to an ongoing issue that
36:29
I think we all knew was going to happen the 2nd that the entire
36:32
CS department got laid off. But also don't be assholes to
36:41
customer service people on Twitter.
36:44
And and and also, yeah, like you're saying like understand
36:47
basic contacts, right? Like the, the the tweet from
36:50
customer service is not worded very well.
36:53
But like also like girl, if you got banned for saying the word
37:00
that I won't say was, do you know how many times Lex Rance
37:05
would be out of World of Warcraft?
37:08
Right, right. Yeah, you got somebody has to
37:10
report it. I don't think it's it's just
37:11
getting picked up. That was a very balanced take,
37:15
Lex. I was I, I mean, I, I'm, I
37:20
think, I think a lot of times customers are idiots.
37:23
Oh, true. So I, I was like, Oh yeah, PJ,
37:25
give it to him. But I definitely see your point
37:29
of view that that didn't de escalate this and that should
37:32
have been the goal. Customer service's goal should
37:34
be to de escalate, not dunk on, not escalate.
37:37
And you're right. I I do agree that you're right.
37:41
The P JS response while awesome, PJ, if you're listening, then it
37:45
then while it is awesome, he should have been trying to de
37:50
escalate that situation or they they should have been trying to
37:53
de escalate that situation. OK.
37:55
All right. That's fair.
37:57
I will. OK.
37:57
I will also not to be mean to poor PJ who's been through a lot
38:01
and hopefully still has a job. I'd like to believe this wasn't
38:05
that big of a explosion, but it's it's possible that had I I
38:14
how do I put this? It felt I, it's possible that if
38:20
I'd personally found it funnier, I would have had a different
38:23
reaction, which is not to say that it wasn't a like, you know,
38:25
attempted like, like I, I, I, it's hard to dunk when you have
38:29
to be also professional, right? But like, for example, would I
38:33
maybe have felt differently if PJ had just like posted a
38:36
screenshot of something that this person had said?
38:39
Maybe right, Like maybe it's just that like it, it, it was a
38:42
little toothless and so it, it didn't hit the way that I
38:45
otherwise would be like someone's got that one seats
38:48
pulled on down. So it it's possible that I'm
38:52
being balanced in a way that I otherwise would not have if I
38:56
had been one of the people giggling along with customer
38:59
service right there. Yeah, I feel like there's no
39:02
way, no world where customer service is allowed to post
39:05
channel. Surely not I and and look, look,
39:07
PJ, if you're listening, darling, you like I, I'm being a
39:11
little mean. You did a like 4A attempted dunk
39:15
on a, a customer. You walked that line very well.
39:20
It was, you know, professional. I could see where the dunk was
39:22
happening, but it didn't, you know, commit any crimes or
39:26
anything. But because it was a
39:28
professional dunk, I think it kind of neither scratched that
39:32
itch of watching somebody get absolutely roasted on the
39:35
Internet for being an idiot, nor did it seem, you know,
39:39
professional and and measured. You know what I'm saying?
39:43
Yeah, one of the things that came out of this that I found
39:45
interesting people were, you know, slamming them for AI
39:48
responses. Oh, it's an AI.
39:50
It's always an AI response to bot.
39:51
It's a bot. It's a bot.
39:52
But one of the one of the customer service reps, because
39:54
there was a multiple that chimed in on this this weekend long
39:59
Twitter fest. One of them pointed out that,
40:01
hey, these are the templates. They're templates, my dude.
40:03
We use template and I worked at a call center.
40:07
You're giving templates. This is your customer's problem.
40:10
This is what you say. You're trying to do sales.
40:13
This is their objection, this is what you say.
40:15
So those templates are in place so that everybody's giving the
40:18
same messaging across the board at the company.
40:21
But we have, we've shifted from this mentality of understanding
40:25
and realizing that templates are a thing that exists and that
40:29
customer service roles specifically use them quite
40:32
heavily. Like especially like scripting
40:34
and stuff, call centers. That's why every time you call a
40:35
call centre, they say the same things over and over again.
40:37
Every time you call your ISP for tech support, they go.
40:40
It sounds like you're talking to the same person every time
40:42
because we're using the script using a template.
40:43
They also not to not to derail, they have this really stupid
40:47
annoying script where they like to tell everyone, oh you, you
40:51
are such a great customer. I wish all of my customers were
40:55
like you, which feels like a little good the first time you
40:58
hear that. And then if you're like me and
41:00
you're constantly talking to customer service because you
41:03
used to be screwed over by a company and you will wait on
41:05
their stupid long annoying lines for how long it takes, you're
41:08
like, you're the third person. I don't think you all like me
41:12
that much. I don't think that's true.
41:14
I think that's a script. And now that I know it, it feels
41:17
fake. So sorry.
41:18
No one, no one has ever told me that they wished all of their
41:21
customers were like me. Am I?
41:24
Am I customer X? OK, right.
41:30
Not a universal script. I've never maybe it's just you,
41:33
Lex. Maybe you're just lovely when
41:35
you're calling you like you sound because when you're angry
41:37
you just sound like a like a butterfly, like a Hummingbird.
41:40
You're just like buzzing. So they're like, oh, she really
41:42
wants, she's really excited to talk to us.
41:43
That's. I, I, I even when I'm very
41:48
angry, I bear in mind the fact that the person that I'm talking
41:51
to is not my enemy. They're my ally.
41:54
I think that's really, really important.
41:56
The customer service person you're talking to, they are not
41:59
the person who screwed you over. They are not the one who upset
42:02
you. They are.
42:03
And and they are arguably the only person in the this
42:06
conversation right now who can help you.
42:09
So like you are. Yeah, I have fully had like
42:12
calls that I have been like livid about what is going on.
42:15
And the person on the other line with me, they, they are my best
42:19
friend. Like, I am very mad at their
42:20
company. But I fully understand that.
42:22
Like, this is not. And I, I, I'm the queen of the
42:24
like, I, I know this is not your fault.
42:26
I'm not angry at you. I'm just frustrated with the
42:28
situation. So you get customers besties.
42:32
That's a good point. You're like they they didn't
42:34
'cause this problem and they're probably the only ones who can
42:36
fix it or could put you in touch with the person who can fix it.
42:40
So you know, you catch more flies with honey.
42:43
Definitely butter them up. I like that.
42:45
But people I just need you to hear this cause apparently I
42:48
don't know if it's zoomers or dementia riddled boomers that
42:53
don't know this or both. Maybe it's both templates exists
42:58
everything's not AI it's not I mean I get it Oh, I don't like
43:00
this it's AI you know my my lawn is too long and there's a bunch
43:03
of dandelions on it to AII got it one of those AI lawn like
43:07
it's not not everything's AI it's the templates are missed
43:11
man, I miss miss the 90s I. Man OK this is probably not a
43:18
surprising take for me. I am not an AI girly.
43:21
I hate the fact that everything I know are you is that.
43:25
Who would have thought so? Surprised.
43:30
I like because, yeah, I mean, the the other hand of that is
43:33
like we kind of do have to be paranoid about AI everywhere
43:36
because it's getting harder to recognize and you have to be
43:41
able to. Yeah, I'm constantly.
43:43
So yeah, people are getting, you know, AI investigated
43:46
constantly, like artists and everyone.
43:47
And on the one hand, I hate that.
43:49
I think that's a terrible way to engage with each other is like,
43:52
you know, assuming that we are just talking to bots.
43:56
But on the other hand, there have been like most times that
43:59
I'm like, I'm going to release my AI, you know, paranoia, and
44:04
I'm going to approach everyone with the assumption that I'm
44:07
talking to a human. I end up talking to a freaking
44:09
bot and then it looks stupid and I don't want to look stupid.
44:13
So I just assume everyone's AI. It's going to be awesome when
44:16
the listeners get to this point of the show and we tell them
44:18
that this whole episode was actually AI, that we took our
44:22
voices from the 300 episodes that we've done before and fed
44:26
them into Gemini and asked it to create a podcast episode with
44:29
the two of us. Oh, yeah, but I don't talk about
44:31
my dog nearly enough. OK.
44:33
I will also say though, I am maybe part of the reason I'm so
44:37
bitter about it is because I do kind of write like AI, Like I am
44:41
a little flowery. Oh.
44:43
My gosh, I. I was raised by a copy editor
44:46
assuming like. I'm not giving it up.
44:48
I don't care. You can accuse me of AI all you
44:51
want. I'm not giving it up.
44:52
I refute. You will clot out of my cold,
44:54
dead hands. It's a.
44:56
Great tool. You know and.
44:59
Everybody's like me. It's not my fault that all the,
45:01
you know, all the the robots want to be fun and nice and
45:05
supportive. That's right.
45:07
They're all just fun little fun little zoomers zipping around
45:09
and bopping and nipping. You're not a zoomer, but like I
45:11
don't mean zoomer as in generation, I mean as in your
45:13
fast. Yeah, fast and and like to kill
45:16
people with mushrooms. Yeah, big mushroom killers.
45:19
What? Hold on.
45:20
What? Well, 'cause there's like AI
45:25
mushroom identification apps and this is one of the, the new
45:28
things it's kind of circulating of like you're all the way if
45:31
you don't listen to AI is I think, I think it was a
45:33
destroying Angel. No, not a destroying Angel.
45:36
It was, it was the white one, the really, really toxic.
45:39
Swear to God, that's a mushroom. I'm not good at mushroom.
45:42
I eat them, but I like I forage them, but I don't forage the
45:45
scary ones. But they're like a highly toxic
45:49
mushroom and they fed it into into AI and they're like, yeah,
45:53
I was like, correct. You're right.
45:55
That is a yummy button mushroom. You should eat that as a fun
45:58
snack. Like that is a healthy
46:00
appropriate. Like, don't you, you guys, you
46:03
guys, you guys, if you are interested in foraging, do you
46:07
know how many books are written on this subject?
46:10
Please do not listen to a little robot.
46:12
Go to one of the millions of books, the Facebook pages, the
46:16
Reddit groups like talk to a person.
46:19
First of all, it's fun. Why?
46:20
If, if you want, if if you're here for the easiness, if you're
46:23
here for that, like go to the farmers market and find somebody
46:26
who seeds freaking chicken of the woods and sells it to you
46:30
for an exorbitant amount of money, right?
46:32
Why are we trudging through the woods and cutting a little
46:34
mushroom? We're doing it for the love of
46:36
the game. And so you might as well to also
46:38
get to talk to a little person. Foragers are all weird.
46:41
They're all fun. They're sometimes a little
46:43
insane. They sometimes like to say, I, I
46:45
did once have somebody insist that a mushroom was not chicken
46:49
in the woods. And chicken in the woods does
46:50
not have lookalikes. They're like, I don't know what
46:52
else it is, but that is not a chicken.
46:54
It's too yellow. And I'm like, OK, so there's two
46:56
different varieties of chicken of the woods and the yellow one
47:00
is potentially a little bit more likely to give you a little bit
47:03
of tummy offset, but then you like side a little bit.
47:05
Oh my God, these crazy people, Sean.
47:07
They were actually like chicken of the woods was we're like, I
47:10
ate some bad chicken into the woods and I was in bed for a
47:14
week. You were not, you were not.
47:16
You had a little bit of the poops and that's OK and you
47:20
moved on with your life. I do not believe them.
47:23
That's not how anyway. Anyway, so some of them are
47:26
crazy, but that's OK. It's fun.
47:29
So don't use AI mushrooms. I don't think anybody has ever
47:33
made an argument that has made me walk away from it being more
47:37
pro AI than you just did. Now you're telling me that the
47:41
AI is actively killing the people who are using it the
47:44
most? Let's open up a data center
47:48
right now that's AI is healing makes that they're doing it for.
47:55
They're like, OK, They're like, listen, we're just, they're
47:57
actively destroying their plan. How do we stop?
47:59
I know we'll tell them the poisonous mushrooms are safe and
48:01
all of the AIS are like, this is going to work.
48:04
This is a good plan. This is great.
48:07
That's this. This is the, this is the actual
48:09
like Terminator end goal. This is when the the machines
48:12
take over. But it's literally just like
48:14
just first like getting us to clear our brains and be
48:17
incapable of thought and then tell us the dumbest things ever
48:20
in our little AI searches. I like that they they're taking
48:25
us out 1 by 1 so that they sure can heal.
48:27
Thank you, AI. They tried, they told us to put
48:30
a little bit of glue in our pizza dough.
48:33
They told us like there's a certain number of rocks you
48:36
should eat. Like they they were.
48:38
They've been testing this for a while.
48:39
Are you serious? This is.
48:42
Like this is in this very early days of AI, like Google AI
48:48
suggested like information I they were, they were like, yeah,
48:52
like a good bonder binder when you're baking is a little glue.
48:57
Oh my God. All right, we're going to end
49:00
the show here because I'm certain at some point somebody
49:03
has already written a comment on Spotify that says I didn't
49:06
TuneIn here for these cooked AI takes and I can't believe the
49:08
fat one just just was pro murder of robot murder.
49:13
So really the reasons that was a joke.
49:17
I'm not pro anything really. Yeah, this is.
49:21
An anti only show. We can only dislike things.
49:25
That's right, I'm incoherent. And was it negatively
49:27
incoherent? Yeah, well to be to be fair, I
49:30
did start a rant all about how if you're gonna forage you
49:34
should join groups because they're fun.
49:36
And then I ended it talking shit about the the foraging groups.
49:39
So yeah, this is kind of the anti only show.
49:42
My bad. For foraging groups and now I
49:44
have to Google Chicken of the Forest.
49:47
Of the. Wood of the wood, Chicken of the
49:49
wood. Sorry and.
49:50
Then oyster mushrooms and then puff balls.
49:52
Those are all the easy ones that are really hard to to die.
49:56
From you know, a lot about mushrooms, which now that I'm
49:59
saying that aloud, explains so much.
50:02
I spent almost all of my free time in the woods, Sean, the
50:05
reason I'm not playing World of Warcraft.
50:07
I'm too busy walking my goddamn dog.
50:08
Which also last weird story before we end the the episode
50:11
today. I did have the fun joy of trying
50:14
to pull a tick off of my own shoulder blade on my own.
50:17
So that was not fun, but I did it.
50:19
I'm very good. At Taking up Tick, two things,
50:22
tick for tick. We used to get a ton of ticks.
50:23
Do you have one of those little dog tools that you can like
50:26
fight under the head and pull? So I tried that and it was a
50:28
little too small and also it was a pain in the ass to like get it
50:32
in the right place. So I just, I just tweezered it.
50:35
The other option, which is awful, just cover it in Vaseline
50:39
because it breathes through its asshole, and if you cover it in
50:41
Vaseline and it can't breathe and it'll back itself out of
50:43
your shoulder, which is an awful feeling.
50:47
Yo, you feel it? Yeah, you can feel it like
50:50
backing itself out. Oh, I hate that.
50:52
The other thing that I've heard, I don't know if this is true,
50:54
but if you do any of those I, I was told that if you do any of
50:57
the like putting it in water or like Vaseline or something like
51:00
that, it'll regurgitate out into you, which is how you get the
51:04
the diseases. Although a fun fact about us,
51:07
this us, I'm guessing this is even more true for you, Sean.
51:10
I learned this when I went to urgent care because I had pulled
51:12
off another tick and I thought that it looked bullseye ish and
51:16
the doctor went in and he said that does not look like a
51:18
bullseye at all. What is wrong with you?
51:20
You're insane. He did give me doxy because I
51:23
always give me doxy. But he did tell me that this far
51:25
north, it's like 10% or fewer of the ticks have diseases and
51:32
like, and he was like, you go to the bottom of the the state and
51:37
all, it's up to 80. So like it usually in in most
51:41
warmer climates, it is a really high rate of anaplasmosis and
51:46
Lyme and everything like that. But we are in a place where
51:50
it's, it's actually pretty rare that our techs have to see that.
51:53
But also if you pull them. Yeah, also if you pull them off
51:56
within about 24 hours, he was saying some people actually
51:59
think it's 36 again, they'll give them doxy anyway.
52:01
Nobody wants me to get Lyme, but they first have to like suck out
52:06
your blood for about 24 hours and then they regurgitate into
52:09
you and that's when you get the line.
52:11
So if you can get them off within 24 hours you are like
52:14
basically guaranteed not sick. OK, very cool.
52:17
We used to get like between 12 and 15 a week.
52:20
I had two dogs and we used to run through the woods and we get
52:23
really nervous. I just started taking the next
52:25
card myself because. We can you do that because I
52:27
want poison. So bad.
52:28
No, no, you cannot, Lex. That was a joke.
52:31
For legal reasons. We're ever I have to cut that
52:33
out of the show. Nobody eat next card.
52:36
It's poison. So bad it makes your blood
52:39
poisonous. Do you have any idea?
52:41
My dog is on next card and she also has a lying vaccine I get.
52:45
I have those two things. Is next card expensive where you
52:47
are? Because it's expensive here but
52:50
I buy it from Australia. You don't need a prescription if
52:52
you buy it from Australia and I have a company that ships it, I
52:55
get it. It's like 73 bucks for a box of
52:57
6. Actually, I think that's about,
53:00
no, I'm actually paying about 200.
53:02
No, no, I'm paying 22 to 3:00. I'll send you the info.
53:04
These dude, that'll be amazing. I want to take it so bad if you
53:07
are a doctor and. You don't take care.
53:09
I'm not going to, but if you can tell me how to get poison blood,
53:13
I don't care what it does to my kidneys.
53:15
I don't care actually. I'm going to have to cut that
53:16
out of the show. I please nobody take next card.
53:19
I'm terrified someone going to hear up to that part and then
53:21
immediately hit stop and go eat a next card.
53:24
Do not take next card until next time.
53:27
May all your hits be crits.