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The Itchy & Scratchy & Poochie Show (with The Real Jims) · Four Finger Discount (Simpsons Podcast)

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  Today we're heading back to revisit. Another classic from season eighty is episode four
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  f one two, The Itchy and Scratchy and Pucci Show. I am Dando,
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  no guy today. He unfortunately died on the way back to his home
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  planet. But luckily I've been joined by a man who has been blessing us
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  with the Simpsons thoughts for over a decade now on his YouTube channel. He
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  is the real Gym's How are you doing? What? Good? Sir?
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  I'm doing very well. Thank you for working out with my schedule. I
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  feel bad that a guy got that headquarter. He must have caught the one
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  that I had like a week or two ago. Yeah, how is that
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  cold holding up? Now? You sound much better, which is good?
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  Oh yeah, I'm great now. Thanks for a work with me with the
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  schedule. I know we had to wait a couple of weeks because of my
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  vacation and then getting sick and then your complications. So yeah, I'm doing
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  much better now. Like when you do a YouTube channel, I'm sure you
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  know from podcasting that when your voice just stops working like it's just like how
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  do I do anything at this point? Like like do you just record something
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  and just everyone listens to your nasal like you know, and they're like,
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  so it's pretty rough. Well, I've done a podcast once with a voice
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  that was like breaking, and then I just was I was editing it,
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  and I went, No, one wants to listen to this, this is
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  sounds horrific. I'm just going to cancel the show this week. I'm gonna
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  have to wait. But I'm sure your fans wouldn't have cared, because man,
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  your following is just exploited in recent years. Luck you must be so
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  proudy yourself. I mean I do pretty well, Like I don't know,
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  like the whole YouTube grind is like, you know, you see your subscriber
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  count, You're like, well, you can always do better, Like these
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  other channels have like three hundred thousand, five hundred thousand, but you know,
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  like like the fact that like one hundred and thirty thousand people would subscribe
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  to my channel is just ridiculous to me, Like that's a ridiculous number in
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  my head. So it's just like like it's so like grateful and humble that
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  like people would even bother to listen to my Simpsons rambling. It's just crazy
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  to me. Well, I've been listening to you, up to you forever
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  a decade. I remember discovering the sixty second reviews, going, this isn't
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  gonna take up too much of my time. I thought it was quite a
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  genius little thing that you had gone because it even wakes better now because I'm
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  thinking YouTube shorts and now a thing. Have you turned all listen to YouTube
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  shorts yet? The sixty second reviews? You know, I totally should,
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  like people have been saying and they're like, you should totally make shorts now.
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  Like I was kind of like I was like ahead of the curve with
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  the sixty second Simpsons, and then YouTube decided it's like, no, you
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  want to make long videos, like that's how you get views, like to
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  make like three hour long epics, you know. So then like I started
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  making longer videos, and yeah, now we live in the world of TikTok
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  where everybody just wants everything summarized in like a minute or two. So yeah,
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  I should totally make one of those vertical image like videos and do it
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  as a short. Um. So, I mean I've been I've been thinking
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  about that. But the other thing is I have heard some pushback from people
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  who like YouTube and are subscribe for YouTube, and some people just actively hate
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  the TikTok, the TikTok or the short format. So I was like,
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  do I make one and alienate people or would that? Is that something people
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  would want? So yeah, I'm not sure on that one. Make a
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  TikTok channel just for your TikTok loves and then YouTube channel the way it's going,
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  Oh yeah, I gotta get all those gen Z watchers. That's that's
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  the key here. So I'm gonna get like three million views and make like
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  five dollars. It's going to be a yeah tiktoks, we love that,
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  isn't it. You get so many views but you make nothing. You make
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  fuck old. Yeah, I've heard it's really good for like promoting like the
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  main channel from what I've heard from other people. So maybe like I can
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  figure out a way to like make little videos that I used to make,
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  and then maybe people would watch the big videos. I don't know. I
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  really got to start thinking about that more because the actual business side of YouTube
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  is something I ignore completely, Like I am terrible at business. I just
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  like I'm just want to make these little Simpsons videos and like if they do
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  well, they do well. So yeah, I really should put some thought
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  into that because the business side is just like a giant mess right now,
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  is it? So is it like an income strain for you at the moment
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  or do they try and get you a couple rock because of using the Simson
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  images Because it's not clips, it's just images, so surely that's fine,
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  right. Oh yeah, so it is an income stream. I do put
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  ads on it. I like tried for so long to not put ads,
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  like I think maybe like the first six years of the ten years doing it
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  was like no ads at all because I was like, weirdly, I was
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  being like kind of a punk rock like hippie kind of person about it.
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  But then everyone was like, put ads on it. We don't care.
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  You should be making something for all the work you're doing. So yeah,
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  it is an extra income screen, extra income stream. Like in terms of
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  the copyright, I do manage to get away with it just because I'm not
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  using clips, so like the box can't really get me. Sometimes I do
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  get manual claims. There's like one video that has gotten claimed at least twice
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  now, which is like the most ridiculous thing ever, because like what is
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  there to claim, Like if my video goes down that has just screenshots,
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  then like everything is copyright infringing. So the whole thing is really weird.
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  But yeah, I managed to avoid it mostly, but I always put up
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  like most petty, petty like arguments and whining on my part when it does
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  happen to me, because it's like, what the hell is that? When
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  that happens? Do you find the editing side of things the most painstakenly part
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  of the process. That's what I find. I love doing the podcast,
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  but the editing is just like, oh oh yeah, the editing is just
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  brutal. Like the like the writing part is like that goes fine. I
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  just sit around and I think, you know, but then when the editing
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  comes along, like I've actually kind of switched to instead of doing these like
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  little editing streams of like two hours a night, two hours a night,
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  lately, I've just been doing like like a whole Saturday. I'll just sit
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  down and just like edit for like ten to twelve hours, and that's just
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  like the day, you know. Yeah, but it's just absolutely brutal because
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  you know, like when you watch a video that's like fifteen minutes long,
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  or in your pace, like a podcast where you listen to it for an
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  hour and you're like, oh, that's nice, but then you like you
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  don't think about how like you are sitting there editing the audio for so long,
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  like listening to this conversation back or in my case, this video,
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  like dealing with what you've written in all these images, and like it goes
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  for so long and you're so sick of it after a while, like you
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  just want it, want it done, But then when people listen to it,
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  it just kind of comes and goes and you don't even think about it.
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  It's really weird. But congratulations on the channelists. Just like it seems
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  in recent years you've really taken off. I think people do enjoy your deep
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  dives, the Simpsons mysteries and there the showdowns and things like that. Yeah,
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  it's been really fun, like kind of just figuring out what I like
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  to research with it. Like the whole thing was just kind of a passion
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  project because I just I like the Simpsons and I want to talk about it,
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  and there just aren't as many places to go to have these kind of
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  arguments about which episode is better, or like these deep dives on characters or
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  seeing just what's going on with these characters. So it's been kind of fun
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  just kind of bouncing around topic to topic and just kind of saying what I
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  am most interested in researching, And like lately I've been like discovering that I
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  just really enjoy these character like deep dives, doing these Simpsons histories videos and
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  just being like, oh, like snake Jailbird, what have they done with
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  the character over the years, Like how consistent have they been with him?
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  Like what like what kind of things can they do with this archetype over thirty
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  plus years of the show, Because like that's the weirdest thing about The Simpsons,
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  Like it's been on for thirty years, and like every character is going
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  to become this weird pile of just like random stories and tidbits. So like
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  just looking at characterization and like what makes the character the character has been like
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  the most fun for me. I've found I've really enjoyed the character stuff from
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  doing these what's your thoughts on continuity in the Simpsons? Because he talked to
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  pickle up Matt Salmon, He's just like continuity at the Simpsons, like,
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  do you get annoyed when they when you see character shifts that don't really make
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  sense to people who grew up in the naughties watching individuals ears seeing now with
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  characterization, I tend to be a little more flexible where I feel like people's
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  personalities are diverse enough, where people can be in different moods, where you
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  can stretch them in certain ways where in this episode, maybe Lisa cares deeply
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  about what her friends, like what her classmates think of her, but in
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  this episode she inexplicably only cares about academics. You know, I feel like
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  people are four dimensional enough where you know, you can have that push and
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  pull with the continuity. Now that being said, some of the continuity stuff
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  is like where I feel like they can do better in certain instances where I
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  just like, we live in the world of the Internet where people just kind
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  of know, like I'm thinking of specifically, when they did that Camp Crusty
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  like sequel episode where they did Camp Crustier, and they wanted to do it
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  as a sequel to Camp Crusty, but and they didn't even like bother to
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  get the details of what the Camp crust the episode was actually like and in
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  those cases, I was like, well, if you're doing the direct reference
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  and you're like trading on that continuity, then like I feel like you should
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  put in a little effort, you know. So those kind of things to
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  be got my nerves because I feel like they're very blase about some stuff.
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  But on the other hand, I do feel like Simpsons fans give them way
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  way way too much crap about the little things you know about like the floating
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  timeline with the nineties and the two thousands, and like, I am totally
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  four Matt Selman just trying a bunch of weird crap with the show, Like
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  we're in season thirty four, you guys, let's do weird crap. But
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  like, but on some of those little details where they can just nail it
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  or not nail it, like I feel like they could do a little better
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  there. Yeah, it's funny because sometimes wearing in season seventeen now with the
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  podcast and you watchedn't you thinking this could have been really awesome if you just
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  seem to just focus a little bit more on what needed to be focused on.
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  But it's off. They just we just an episode where Millhouse's parents go
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  back together yeah, and then like halfway into the episode, it just becomes
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  another margin Homer, you know, breaking up story. And I'm like,
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  we got this two weeks ago. Why are you so fixated on having Homer
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  and Marge splitting up all the time. We're sick of seeing this love.
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  This would have been a really fun exploration of the Millhouse character of anything.
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  Oh yeah, those middle seasons, Like that's like the stereotype about them.
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  It's just like Homer and Marge are about to divorce in like almost every episode.
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  Like the marriage crises is just like Jesus Christ, just just leave it
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  alone already, Like and you know, Millhouse is like we've never really gotten
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  any Like like we got the first episode where we see how it affects the
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  Millhouse, you know, but like other than that, Like what did Millhouse
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  really get in terms of character development out of his parents divorcing? Nothing?
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  We did get Kirk Vanhatten out of it. Yeah, Like we got a
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  lot of fun divorce dead like deadbeat Kirk. Like I kind of liked all
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  the cool stuff we got out of Kirk. He's still kind of a deadbeat
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  dad even though they're back together. But like like, yeah, hearned that
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  episode into a whole emerge thing when you have like Millhouse right there, just
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  like begging to have something done with them. Wasn't that the episode where it
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  gets like all emo and like depressed or something, or or might think of
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  a different one. It's the one where Hay and Bart try to split them
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  up and they hired marges bra in Lowens. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  not a great ones. I've watched it and I was like, this
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  episode isn't too bad, and then we reviewed it and I was like,
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  this is not great. Yeah, all season seventeen is kind of brutal.
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  Yeah, are you watching season thirty four? Yeah, I've been watching that.
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  Have you been keeping up with it? Yeah? Well, now that
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  Disney Plus here in Australia keeps them up today every Wednesday we get them out
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  of the air. In America, it's so much easier to keep track of
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  them because for a while there you didn't know what channel it was airing on,
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  what time it was going to be airing, what day, So I
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  just like sort of gave up. But now Disney Plus it's easy to sort
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  of follow along, and I do think the new ones are really starting to
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  find their footing again. Oh yeah, I agree. Like I did a
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  whole video about how like season thirty three was such a breath of fresh air.
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  I've really liked the direction and they've taken the show and like there are
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  some production things behind the scenes going on in terms of like how the episodes
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  are being made, and I think I think there is a new breath of
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  life into the way that they're they're doing these co showrunner things where like Caroline
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  o'mine is doing some episodes, Tim Long is doing some episodes. You know,
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  they're kind of passing around where we're getting this nice mix of just people
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  bringing different perspectives to the show. And I think it's been breathing a lot
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  of new life into the show where like there's like a self awareness of what
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  people want out of like a season thirty four of a TV show. Yeah,
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  and plus I feel like Homer is no longer the joke ass that he
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  sort of became, like he's got these moments, but they've definitely toned it
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  down. Oh yeah, Like he's a total teddy bear now, Like he
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  is, like I'm made a joke at a video that he's arguably too nice
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  now that like Homer's like become this disney like he's become this disney edgeless dad.
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  It's just like from like TGIF or like full House or something. Well,
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  we're here today to talk about his and scratching and Pucci show. You
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  selected this episode, so give us your thoughts. What do you remember about
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  this one? Okay, so when I was watching this episode again, like
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  I remembered watching it at the time, and I remember there was kind of
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  a general attitude that The Simpsons was kind of becoming in passe or it's just
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  like the show has been kind of up and down or whatever. But I
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  remember really enjoying the episode. But then watching it again today, I'm kind
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  of just in awe that they even made this episode, that they got away
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  with it and not everybody got immediately fired afterwards. Well, here's the thing.
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  It's like, because Bill has said to us in the past, Bill
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  locally that he felt at the time Fox went of him watching the show anymore,
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  that was just like, just give us some content to put on the
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  station. We don't really care what the Simpsons they're doing. But then you
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  read that they actually suggested they add a new character to increase rating, So
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  they were still clearly paying attention to the show. But the fact that,
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  like you said, they were able to get away of this and Fox didn't
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  care. I just thought it was just like it was I took some serious
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  balls. Really. Yeah, Like half of the episode kind of just feels
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  like the writers just airing their grievances. Like all those boardroom scenes are totally
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  like they had a meeting with Fox where they told to add a new character,
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  They had a meeting with Fox talking about the ratings declining, and these
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  conversations about the show being as good as ever. Like it's just like at
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  airing a grievances where they're like flipping off where they're flipping the bird at the
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  network and they're kind of flipping the bird at their hardcore fans too. Yeah,
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  And it's just so brazen and amazing that they made this episode of what
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  nineteen ninety six was it? I think, well, it added ninety seven,
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  But yeah, it feels like a letter written straight to dot Simpsons,
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  doesn't it. Oh yeah for sure, Like like I know, like like
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  you talked to Bill like he was reading those Usenet and all dot TV Dot
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  Simpsons and like like it's kind of one of the first instances of like letting
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  the Internet drive you insane from just reading it, like the doomscrolling. You
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  know, he was like one of the first doom scrollers. I think they'll
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  was and actually like make an episode about all the doom scrolling that you've done,
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  and like how terrible people are being. It's so ballsy. What's worry
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  got the worst episode ever? From from people writing it in the in that
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  forum, But I actually did some research, so apparently the first time they
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  ever appeared on alt dot TV dot Simpsons was in nineteen ninety two for the
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  Funnily Enough the Itchy and Scratchy or Itchi and Scratchy the movie. That's when
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  that first got said in the forum. Oh wow season four really yeah yeah,
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  So even back then ninety two, people will complain that it's the worst
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  episode ever. What are they doing? They're ruining the show, and it's
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  like us A J D. What are you talking about? Bunny? Yeah.
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  I love reading those old like like Simpson's archive reviews that they've still like
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  because, like you know, the show did go through a lot of different
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  eras, like David Murkin took over the show and season five and six,
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  and obviously people noticed, you know, and you read some of those season
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  five reviews and they're like, why is the show all crazy? Why is
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  Homer vigilante? And Homer goes to college so weird? You know, and
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  like like the blowback they were getting as far back as then, whereas we
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  watched those episodes episodes now and are like, oh, those are the golden
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  years, but like they're just like the real flashback in time. Yeah,
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  maybe it's just a case of Simpsons fans how good ones have just always wanted
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  to complain about something. Oh yeah, and like I talk about how they're
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  flipping the birds at the fans, you know, in some respect in this
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  episode, but like, you know, they kind of had a point about
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  some of it where they're like, you guys were like nitpicking them to death
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  like every single week. So like, you know, I think there is
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  a little bit of this episode that you can criticize in terms of like like
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  their attitude with the fandom, you know, but like they do raise a
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  good point about how much they were just like picked to death like birds,
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  you know every single week. You mentioned doom scrolling just before do you do
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  that on your YouTube channel? I mean, most of your comment to positive
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  anyway, I've very rarely see negative comte in your videos. But do you
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  ever get a comment we goo heybuddy attle diffen into this video? Yeah,
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  I mean I dooms. I want to say that I doom scroll necessarily.
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  I feel like that that attitude has been beaten out of me about ten years
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  ago, probably like I've just been online long enough where I've just learned those
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  lessons to just you know, walk away after a while. But like most
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  YouTubers or most podcasts or like internet creative type people like you do get that
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  negative comment and you see it and you're like, ah, like you got
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  one hundred nice comments, and then one, like one person comes along and
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  they're like, wow, this sucks and you're like, well, like it
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  doesn't ruin your day or anything, but you're like like, screw you,
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  Like what's wrong with you? Like, come on, how you use a
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  four fingered discount? Why are you giving me shit? Yeah exactly, I'm
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  onto you. I knew it. I knew that. I knew that Avatar
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  was familiar as same as fitting. Also, this was the episode to overtake
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  The Flintstones for the amount of a man of episodes produced by an animated series.
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  This was one hundred and sixty seven. They did one hundred and sixty
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  six. It's crazy to think that they're on their way to seven fifty.
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  Sure, they're just gonna get their way to a thousand now, right,
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  Oh yeah, Like when they got renewed for I think they're renewed for season's
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  thirty five and thirty six. I think two more. Yeah, and yeah,
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  I was like tweeting that they have to let them get to a thousand,
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  Like if you stop at like eight hundred eighty, like, what the
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  hell is that? Come on? Yeah? This is also this episode Alex
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  Rocco's last performances as rotging Wis Junior, which I thought was strange because he
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  didn't pass until twenty fifteen, so you had a good what twenty or so
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  years, and he used to have him back on They just never got him
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  back on the show. Same Bill and Josh were fans of he They got
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  him back twice, but after this performance he just never returned. Yeah,
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  it's so weird because he is so good in this episode, Like this is
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  probably my favorite Roger Meyer's Junior episode, Like he has so many good quotable
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  lines in it. Are there many Itchy and Scratchy episodes after this one or
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  was this it? Ah, there's a decent amount of him. Like there's
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  an episode in season thirty, like Bart versus Itchy and Scratchy where they do
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  the female Ghostbusters thing and like do a female reboot of Itchy and Scratchy and
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  that episode, but like they kind of transitioned Itchy and Scratchy too, where
• 20:07
  it's like almost like Crusty owns Itchy and Scratchy, like he's the head.
• 20:11
  Like when they did that season thirty episode, they're like fighting with Krusty like
• 20:15
  he's the one announcing it and he seems to be like the creative force behind
• 20:18
  it. So it's almost like he bought Roger Meyer's studios or something like like,
• 20:23
  yeah, Roger Meyers went totally by the wayside like in those middle seasons,
• 20:27
  and I have no idea why, because Alex Rocco is the man.
• 20:30
  Like that voice is amazing. Yeah, it's perfect, And like you're saying,
• 20:34
  season third, that's still twenty two seasons without having that character, and
• 20:37
  you think, hell yeah, Like I'm trying to think, I bet there's
• 20:41
  got to be a middle season Itchy and Scratchy episode that I'm forgetting I has
• 20:47
  to beat because that was atto a pot of Bill and Josh's formula was that
• 20:51
  every season has to have an itchy and scratchy episode. Yeah, they just
• 20:53
  kind of fell by the wayside for a little while and then they came back
• 20:56
  and just kind of did um they were just doing like who just random parodies
• 21:00
  every single episode. So yeah, I think they did just kind of stop
• 21:04
  doing like full on itchy and scratchy like like meta commentaries like instead they were
• 21:11
  doing stuff like that Web Cartoons episode where like he does Angry Dad instead,
• 21:15
  Like they kind of stopped doing these meta episodes for some reason. Yeah,
• 21:18
  I'm a big fan of Bill and Josh's formula, whether you sort of they
• 21:22
  say, you know, you gonna have at least an episode a Bard episode
• 21:25
  itchy and scratchy Sacho Bob just feels like that formula was thrown out the window.
• 21:29
  What is your favorite sort of like era of the show, Because for
• 21:32
  me, I think it was like six through eight. That was when I
• 21:33
  really remember watching the show religiously in terms of my favorite like overall era,
• 21:40
  Like I like the like I'm one of those like first eight seasons kind of
• 21:42
  guys, you know where I just like the whole of the first eight seasons,
• 21:47
  I would say my favorite, like Mini era. I think Bill and
• 21:49
  Josh's era was probably my favorite, Like if I had to, if I
• 21:52
  had to just choose, just because, like, you know, you see
• 21:56
  this episode, the Pucci episode, and like, making a season seven and
• 22:00
  eight of any TV show is just ridiculously hard, like because so much stuff
• 22:06
  has been done already, and the fact that they were able to come in
• 22:08
  there in season seven and make such an amazing season of television that's like well
• 22:14
  balanced, a little experimental with like the twenty two short Films episode, and
• 22:18
  then come back with season eight, Like it's kind of a minor miracle that
• 22:22
  their episodes are as good as they are, because they should be everything that
• 22:26
  this episode is criticizing, where it's like gimmicky with Roy and Pucci, but
• 22:32
  instead, no, it's just good, solid Simpsons all the way through.
• 22:36
  And I remember as the Cubos, she's how will you when this first aid?
• 22:38
  Oh, probably I would have been like thirteen or twelve or eleven somewhere
• 22:42
  around there. Okay, so I was only like maybe eight when this first
• 22:45
  aid. So as a kid, I was like, who is this roy?
• 22:48
  Why they why is this guy coming too? It was until older that
• 22:52
  I realized I appreciated this episode for what it was. It's amazing you have
• 22:55
  this episode you can enjoy as a kid, not understanding what it's going for
• 22:59
  when you get Aldio, like, fuck, this is actually classic. But
• 23:02
  the question is, though, did you think that Pucci was cool when you
• 23:06
  were a little Though I remember being really disappointed that they killed it off just
• 23:11
  for home misake. But the Pucci character, though, was just it was
• 23:15
  too in your face. I was like, this guy just seems like the
• 23:18
  guy that the Jocket school that's bullying everybody. Yeah, Like like this episode
• 23:22
  like feels very like relevant to today with like the fan culture, but it
• 23:26
  is so aggressively nineties with like the you know, rastify him by twenty percent
• 23:33
  or whatever kind of thing, like the sunglasses and everything, like the mascot
• 23:37
  era was so big and like, you know the episode because I kind of
• 23:41
  felt the same way when I was twelve, where the episode is telling you
• 23:45
  that Poucci is lame, but when you're that young, you're like he is
• 23:48
  kind of a cool dog in a weird way, Like the episode is telling
• 23:52
  you one thing, but you do kind of get suckered into that extreme nineties
• 23:56
  attitude back then. Yeah, oh everything was extreme, but this is the
• 24:00
  thing the Simpsons at this point. So the whole episode is sort of hot
• 24:03
  light in that everyone still loved the Simpsons while Sta Martain necessarily been watching every
• 24:07
  week. Were you at that point by season eight? Were you still watching
• 24:11
  the show every single week? Or you sort of found something else because south
• 24:14
  Park hadn't come around you. I feel like south Park really sort of took
• 24:18
  over that controversial animation sort of slot in late at ninety seven. I was
• 24:22
  definitely still watching at that point. I kind of fell out around I would
• 24:26
  say, like season ten or season eleven, I think, And that was
• 24:29
  just because I got busy with like middle school and high school type things when
• 24:32
  I was just a little older, you know. You know, like once
• 24:34
  you're like a cool high school or you're like I don't have time to watch
• 24:37
  like the Simpsons. You know you're here, like no, I'm saying like
• 24:41
  so derisively, like you know, I still liked the Simpsons as a high
• 24:45
  schooler, but I'm not gonna like turn on the TV on Thursday night or
• 24:48
  whenever it was airing then and just like, you know, watch it because
• 24:52
  I got you know, I got to go on all these dates and all
• 24:53
  these clubs, you know, because I'm a cool high schooler. But it
• 24:57
  wasn't a cool show anymore, though, wasn't yeah you know, yeah,
• 25:00
  like Southpark came out and that was the new hotness, and The Simpsons is
• 25:04
  just like that old crusty show. That's just like having like, you know
• 25:08
  that guy from the Monsters on now or whatever, so remember his name?
• 25:14
  Yeah, and Squeagy not Squiggy. I remember that Squeaky episode and just really
• 25:18
  not liking Squeaky. Oh yeah, Like I didn't even know who it was.
• 25:22
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• 26:03
  the description of this podcast. Next question, you there eating the paste.
• 26:10
  But before we get into the deep dive of the episode, I've got some
• 26:11
  trivia questions for he usually do a trivia here, guys. Not here,
• 26:14
  By the way, guys, Guy's not dead, he's just not feeling well.
• 26:18
  We've got some trivia questions here from mister Jim, So my first one
• 26:19
  here. Let's see how much you remember this episode. Oh god, I'm
• 26:22
  still bad at trivia. When Roger first walks into Krusty's office, as a
• 26:26
  poster on the wall behind him right featuring mister Teeney. What was the event
• 26:32
  that it's promoting? The event? I see I saw when I watched it
• 26:36
  just now. I saw the mister Teeney poster, but I have no idea
• 26:37
  what it said. What he's wearing. He's wearing skates. What do you
• 26:41
  think roller Derby? No, it's it's Crustica Paides. Oh day, okay.
• 26:47
  Next one is Homer would rather listen to who instead of himself? Who?
• 26:52
  Instant I see I'm picturing the scene. This is so embarrassing. Who
• 27:00
  is it? It's cheap trick? Oh yeah, cheap trick. Yes,
• 27:03
  cheap trick. I'd rather listen. Yeah, yeah, okay, go on
• 27:07
  one more, one more CYD game before we get into it. So,
• 27:08
  how much does a copy of Tune Beach magazine cost? Tune being metal?
• 27:12
  Like I'm supposed to look at this? Oh my god, like I am
• 27:18
  really showing how much attention detail I show? I am in a guess two
• 27:21
  ninety nine? Who not bad? It's four ninety five, okay, four
• 27:25
  ninety five in nineteen ninety seven? Would that have felt like an expensive magazine?
• 27:30
  Four and ninety five? Yeah? Like what's five dollars today? But
• 27:33
  that's like what like eleven dollars or something? At least tennis you'd think so,
• 27:37
  wouldn't you? Yeah? Yeah, at least all right, let's get
• 27:41
  into our review of The Itchy and Scratchy and Pucci Show. Original date February
• 27:45
  ninth, nineteen ninety seven. Written by David X coh and directed by Stephen
• 27:48
  Dean Moore. Guest Alex Rocco and Phil Hartman as part of the auditions.
• 27:52
  There was no chalk game, but the cash gag was the parody of Sergeant
• 27:56
  Peppers. Are you a Beatles fan? I'm a big Beatles fan myself,
• 27:57
  but yeah, I'm big Beatles fan. My dad like every single week would
• 28:02
  like listen to like Breakfast with the Beatles, you know, on the weekend.
• 28:04
  So I've listened to so much Beatles in my life. Usually that means
• 28:08
  that you grew up to not be a fan, though, when your parents
• 28:11
  are just forcing it. Daniel Throat like that. Yeah, but I feel
• 28:14
  like the Beatles are so Yeah, that's a good point. Actually I should
• 28:17
  hate the Beatles, right, but I feel like the Beatles are so good
• 28:21
  that they were able to like surpass like the childhood like tired of it.
• 28:25
  So yeah, I love Beatles. I feel like anyone who doesn't like the
• 28:27
  Beatles are just sending it because they want to be a bit different. Yeah,
• 28:30
  Like all your like Beatles haters right now are less so mad because they're
• 28:33
  like you're being You're calling them out for just being contrarian at this point,
• 28:37
  but like, come on, like the Beatles made so much different music between
• 28:42
  Like I want to hold your hand to Like there's stuff they're doing the seventies
• 28:45
  that you gotta like something that they made. I was only like six years
• 28:48
  too. That makes so much. Oh my, yeah, that's that's ridiculous.
• 28:53
  Yeah wow, well, I mean time moves so slow back then,
• 28:56
  I didn't. Yeah. So the episode kicks off of Crusty, introducing fans
• 29:00
  maybulous episode of itchin Scratchy Why who fools Fall in Lava, in which Scratchy
• 29:04
  does a bungee jump into a volcano, gets filled with what we call petrol
• 29:07
  you call gas, and gets burnt, but unfortunately nobody's watching. Marge finds
• 29:11
  the kid. I thought it was stranger eating cereal in the afternoon. Yeah,
• 29:15
  it's such a weird pull out. I like the kind of screw of
• 29:18
  the audience thing where you know, where you get the cartoon at the beginning
• 29:22
  and they're not actually watching it. But yeah, why did they pick cereal?
• 29:25
  Of all things that they could be doing? Like they She even says,
• 29:26
  it's like such a nice day outside and they're, like, you know,
• 29:30
  eating cereal instead. I guess the joke is meant to be they're doing
• 29:33
  something mundane together, and what else would they be doing together? In the
• 29:36
  house. Besides, I guess just eating food but eating cereals, Like why
• 29:40
  is she eating crusty brand cereal? It's like we find that later on that
• 29:44
  Itchy and Scratchy Airs at four twenty five. That's when the ratings crashed.
• 29:47
  Yeah, and you can't even use the argument because like, like you probably
• 29:49
  did that when you were a little where you just like pour in some cereal
• 29:52
  while you're just like watching TV. But if it's like dry cereal and just
• 29:56
  watching it, but like just sitting there eating cereal when it's not breakfast or
• 30:00
  a meal. Yeah, I kind of like the choice, just because it's
• 30:03
  so weird the more I think about it. Yeah, So Roger wires Junior.
• 30:07
  He goes to see Krusty and there's a note on the door said cleaning
• 30:10
  crew, the liquor is not for you, which is a gag. See
• 30:12
  little things like that. I still find something new every time I watched these
• 30:15
  old episodes. I've never seen that gag before. Yeah. I watched this
• 30:18
  episode twice and both times I tried to see what the thing said and failed
• 30:23
  both times. So I'm glad this is another trivia question I would have gotten
• 30:26
  wrong. So I like to have. They had the Itchy and Scratchy briefcase
• 30:32
  as well, just like you know, this guy runs Itchy and Scratchy in
• 30:33
  case you went aware Little Kids Watching at Home has the big logo on his
• 30:37
  suitcase. But he's basically just talking up crust He's trying to distract him for
• 30:40
  the fact that his show's not doing well. Hey, Crusty, you look
• 30:44
  great. You get your teeth bleached. Yeah, it's a new kind of
• 30:47
  Parliament treatment. Hey shut up, you're yeah because you're Itchy and Scratchy cartoons.
• 30:52
  I'm just taking out my ratings. Look at this breakdown yesterday's shall Yeah,
• 30:57
  what happened here? Lightning it to transmitter. See that's what I thought
• 31:00
  at first. But hey, shut up. That crater is where you're a
• 31:04
  lousy cartoon crash landed. It's ratings pison, but Itchy and scratches critically,
• 31:10
  it's claimed acclaimed. He mentions he that but Itchy and Scratchy is critically a
• 31:15
  claimed and from the get go, you're like, okay, So Itchy and
• 31:18
  Scratchy in this episode is the Simpsons. Oh yeah for sure. And yeah,
• 31:22
  I love the lightning hit the transmitter thing, But it's kind of a
• 31:25
  weird dynamic where like, now, for some reason, Krusty is calling the
• 31:29
  shots on Roger Myers, whereas you see other episodes where like what is it
• 31:33
  itchy and Scratchy in Marge, where it seems like, you know, Roger
• 31:37
  Myers is the big guy, but now it seems like Krusty is the one
• 31:40
  in charge, is like actively yelling at him. I guess because the ratings
• 31:44
  have dropped and there and there Roger wires atlet to get the show out to
• 31:48
  the people. Did this is kind of an ignorant question, but do like
• 31:52
  networks have that much data to that fine point where that they could see that
• 31:56
  for these five minutes the races crashed, Like is that actually a real thing
• 32:01
  where they'd be able to measure that? Yeah, So they have a thing
• 32:04
  called the Nielsen ratings. And then because I actually I'm a wrestling fan,
• 32:07
  so I'll watch wrestling and they talk about wrestling rating sometimes and they can say
• 32:10
  they go by quarters, so it's like every fifteen minutes, so it's like
• 32:14
  in this quarter during this match that ratings tanked, So like, okay,
• 32:17
  well let's not put this guy on the show anymore. So they can do
• 32:19
  it by quarters. I'm not sure they can necessarily do it by the minute
• 32:22
  like they're doing this one here. But yeah, like that's some like YouTube
• 32:25
  algorithm stuff where you're seeing like the dips and valleys of it or whatever,
• 32:30
  Like that's really what it's. It's very strange to me though, like did
• 32:34
  people just turn off the TV show and then just turn it back on again?
• 32:37
  Like I don't I'm getting really in the weeds here. Maybe they just
• 32:39
  turn it off completely. But it's just so weird that people that they could
• 32:44
  measure this too or whatever. The way thing is too is that the Simpsons
• 32:49
  were still watching the Scratchy show. It was still on, the ratings still
• 32:52
  would have counted. They just went watching it themselves, like they were really
• 32:54
  ahead of the curve in terms of like engagement filters. I think back in
• 32:58
  nineteen ninety seven, do you ever have a show, a favorite show of
• 33:01
  yours where even though when you're a bit younger, where you felt like it
• 33:05
  wasn't the popular show anymore, so you just sort of watched it just to
• 33:07
  make sure that they kept it on TV. So I've got I've got to
• 33:09
  support this thing, oh like out of just like a sense of duty almost
• 33:15
  I feel like I was doing I feel like I was doing that when Community
• 33:16
  was on the air, because like Communities ratings, Like NBC was such a
• 33:22
  trashole back then in terms of their ratings, whereas just like I gotta watch
• 33:24
  The Office and Parkson ranking Community, like maybe not the Office, like they
• 33:29
  didn't need the ratings, but like just so that NBC knows that people are
• 33:32
  watching, you know. So probably it was like that for later Simpson seasons,
• 33:37
  like the Team ones, even like season seventeen, I think I dropped
• 33:38
  off after the movie when it went like full HD. I think I was
• 33:42
  just like, yeah, this show's not for me anymore for a while,
• 33:44
  but they're like season sixteen seventeen, it really felt like I was the only
• 33:47
  one of my friends to watching The Simpsons. I'm like, I've got to
• 33:50
  support this thing. They're going to take it off the air. Yeah,
• 33:52
  I feel like they were just kind of cranking out episodes just because like I
• 33:57
  don't know, They're syndication deal becomes more and more luke over time as they
• 34:00
  put in more episodes, like now it's just you know, you throw all
• 34:02
  that stuff up on streaming and watch like the streaming numbers role and like that's
• 34:07
  what they seem to care about these days. But yeah, back then,
• 34:09
  it's just like you look around, You're like, is anyone actually watching this
• 34:15
  show? Yeah, I think it was season seventeen of the symptoms as well.
• 34:17
  I think a lot of the quality was because of they were doing double
• 34:21
  duties with the movie, and they've said they won't make that mistake again.
• 34:23
  Because they didn't hire a new staff to create the movie. It was everyone
• 34:27
  who was making the show now also to have to make this movie on top
• 34:30
  of what they're already doing. I think the show suffered as a result of
• 34:32
  that. Well, that explains a lot about season seventeen. People on my
• 34:37
  channel heard me complain about that season and like, I'm glad it's not just
• 34:40
  me, Like I feel like season sixteen you can kind of feel a little
• 34:44
  bit too in there, like seasons seeing seventeen. Just like when I watched
• 34:49
  that, I was like they were like three or four episodes where I could
• 34:52
  like where I put them in, like the good Pile and everything else.
• 34:54
  Just like, oh yeah, I'm not looking forward to that season. By
• 34:59
  the way, listeners, you're not a way I'm actually saying Jim for the
• 35:01
  first time. Right now, you guys are gonna seem obviously, but I'm
• 35:05
  saying right now, just it's just so weird saying you do like the way
• 35:08
  you was like, Oh, I'm just like I'm so used to hearing you
• 35:12
  do that, but seeing you do it, it's a whole different dynamic.
• 35:14
  Yeah, Dondo, you're really discovering what a hand talker I am right now,
• 35:20
  because yeah, on the YouTube, you can't see me like a wave
• 35:22
  in my hands around like crazy. But I you know, I have a
• 35:25
  very monotonous voice, like I'm sure everybody can tell. I'm kind of just
• 35:29
  you know, steady eddy with my voice, but like to get myself to
• 35:31
  a moat, I feel like I got to move my hands everywhere. So
• 35:34
  you're getting that for the first time. Well you notice I've got my hands
• 35:37
  crossed because I'm exactly the same. Why don't keep my hands crossed They're going
• 35:39
  everywhere. Oh yeah, Like I totally just like constantly like just whack the
• 35:44
  mic constantly. I have to rerecord so much stuff because like little clicks show
• 35:47
  up in there. It's terrible. Have you ever had any editing issues where
• 35:51
  you've just lost what you've recorded I've done that like two or three times,
• 35:53
  and it's just hotbreaking. I haven't yet, but I'm a very paranoid person
• 35:59
  about saving in audacity, so not yet the worst part is when you I
• 36:05
  always have issues with Premiere Pro. Do you use Premiere Pro to edit your
• 36:07
  videos? Uh? No, I just use like a junkie editor, Like
• 36:10
  it's a really complicated thing. But no, I don't use Premiere for that.
• 36:15
  I love how just like and I mean it's in the most positive way
• 36:16
  possible. I hand something like simple, your videos are just like the steel
• 36:20
  shots moving around. I'm just like, he's never changed, please never change.
• 36:23
  Yeah, it's actually like an animation Like it's actually like an animation suite
• 36:28
  where I'm doing the actual like still's editing and moving stuff around, because doing
• 36:31
  it in an actual editing suite would just take bloody forever. Like Lydia from
• 36:37
  the Simpsons theory did like an homage to my style, and I could tell
• 36:39
  that, like it probably took her a while just because doing it in the
• 36:43
  editing suite. But yeah, doing it in an animation suite makes it so
• 36:46
  much quicker. And then putting it in like the real editing software, well,
• 36:50
  Krusty. Here he threatens to replace the Chene Scratchy with a Chinese show
• 36:53
  with robots, but he's a lazy lazy man, Soho just tells Roger Wis
• 36:57
  to come back or don't come back into it. Chene Scratchy is fixed,
• 36:59
  slam the door, and then we get Mal. Now with like I said
• 37:01
  in season seventeen of The Simpsons and Sideshow Mel, he seems to be getting
• 37:06
  a lot more airtime than he used to get to the point where it's just
• 37:08
  annoying. Now he has that line like this and like what feels like every
• 37:13
  episode, but still back then though he was just this poor little psyche kip
• 37:15
  to Crusty, which I was able to still enjoy. I always forget when
• 37:19
  I watched the episode that there is actually a Mel joke when he walks in
• 37:22
  the room, because I always expect like him to like slam the door and
• 37:25
  then just show like Mel looking nervous and then like a cut to the next
• 37:29
  scene, like maybe that's a syndication cut or whatever possible, Like, yeah,
• 37:31
  whenever Mal comes in the room, I'm always surprised, Yeah, well
• 37:35
  that does happen now because we watched these syndicated episodes so often that these things
• 37:37
  were missing. There's one in the in the Rosebud episode for AUSTRALI. I
• 37:40
  don't know why they cut it out, but when Homer has the cardboard box
• 37:45
  on his head, do you remember that clip? That scene we're he's trying
• 37:47
  to entertain Maggie used always get cut out on TV for some reason. So
• 37:51
  when I see it on DVD's and things, I'm like, oh, that's
• 37:52
  right, Yeah, it's weird. But so they went out the more and
• 37:55
  Marge's going to shop for a Brazil So she tells the kids to go just
• 37:59
  go wonder a random made me back here. This is where they get the
• 38:00
  focus group. Man, kids, would you like to come with me?
• 38:05
  I will admit I did not get that joke at all when I was little,
• 38:07
  Like not at all, Like I think in the nineties, you just
• 38:09
  kind of just went wherever at that point. Yeah, it's like, oh
• 38:13
  yeah, it's made the same, it's pleasant. We'll go for a stroll.
• 38:15
  Yeah, why not? And you know he says, no one's spying
• 38:16
  in them. The mirror sneezes, and he says, don't worry, that
• 38:19
  mirror is just old some sneezing, some coughing some talking softly, and then
• 38:22
  he gives the thumbs up, which is one of my favorite screenshots ever,
• 38:25
  the thumbs up into the mirror. Yeah. Nice. What are you some
• 38:29
  of your favorite Simpsons like screenshots for memes and things like that. Oh,
• 38:32
  in terms of the Simpson screenshots, Oh, I have so many screenshots It's
• 38:38
  really hard to list specifics. There's like this one where I posted on Twitter.
• 38:45
  There in that episode an eie I do, there's this moment where they
• 38:49
  all look up at the same time and their noses are pointing in the air.
• 38:52
  You might have seen the screenshot, but yeah, like the horrifying them
• 38:57
  just all looking up and their noses and the weirdest thing I've ever seen.
• 39:01
  They like Itchy, they like Scratchy. One kid seems to love the speedo.
• 39:06
  Man, what more do they want? Okay? How many of the
• 39:09
  kids would like Itchy and Scratchy to deal with real life problems like the ones
• 39:14
  you face every day? And who would like to see them do just the
• 39:20
  opposite, getting into far out situations involving robots and magic powers. So you
• 39:29
  want a realistic, down to Earth show that's completely off the wall and swarming
• 39:34
  with magic robots. Also, you should win things by watching your kids don't
• 39:42
  know what you want. That's why you still kids, because you stupid.
• 39:45
  Just tell me what's wrong? What the freak and shout, Really this is
• 39:55
  what kids. Fucker screws must have been locked right. Oh yeah, this
• 39:59
  scene is definitely one of those where they got notes from the network saying what
• 40:05
  they wanted out of them, and they were totally contradictory. Or this is
• 40:08
  a focus script that they actually had for their show. Yes, but milhouse
• 40:13
  and I says he should always also win things for watching I would have totally
• 40:16
  been down for that winning things for watching the Simpsons? Would you? What's
• 40:21
  a bit a piece of Simpsons memorabil you would have loved to have won in
• 40:22
  the nineties because someone wanted Simpsons house and they still didn't want it. I
• 40:27
  was like, what is wrong with you? Oh well, I totally wanted
• 40:29
  to win that who shot mister Burns contest to be animated into a show like
• 40:32
  come on, yeah, of course, other actual merchandise than one I'm not
• 40:38
  even sure like at that age, I would have just taken like a poucie
• 40:44
  doll at that point, like I would just take anything as a twelve year
• 40:46
  old. What about disgruntled Goat? Oh yeah, you know, as a
• 40:51
  shocker that they haven't even like made those, because I would totally buy a
• 40:54
  disgruntled Goat, Like I'm maybe not klu Klux Clam. I don't think i'd
• 40:59
  buy him, but all the other ones totally, Like the scruntled girl is
• 41:01
  the man. That's the thing with Simpsons merchandise for so long. They're kind
• 41:06
  of changing a little bit now, but for so long I felt like you
• 41:08
  have all these meta gags that you can be making like this kind of goat
• 41:10
  plush and things like that, and you go to Universal Studios and you think,
• 41:14
  how are these not here? You could be making so much money from
• 41:17
  these things. Yeah. I went there recently actually, and like they have
• 41:21
  a lot of cool merch like I did a video about it and everything,
• 41:23
  but like a lot of it is kind of generic, and I feel like
• 41:27
  there's like this whole like they did a Trios Lahore recently, like all about
• 41:31
  the obsessive Simpsons fandom and they should be like mining this for like fun and
• 41:37
  resources and gags like because there's clearly a market for it. So this is
• 41:42
  where he has the kids rough starts crying. Lisa explains to him, to
• 41:45
  Roger Meyers that there's nothing wrong with the show. It's as good as ever,
• 41:49
  you know, it's just after so many years, the characters can't have
• 41:51
  the same impact they once had. Do you say? This is basically the
• 41:53
  message they're trying to say to Fox, Like, look, there's nothing wrong
• 41:55
  with this show. Stop trying to give us notes. It's part of our
• 41:58
  contract that you can't give notes. The show is fine. It's just people
• 42:02
  just you know, it's hard to have the same impact that we once had.
• 42:05
  You're gonna get You're not gonna get bartem Mania once a game because that
• 42:07
  was Lightney into bottle. Do you give me your what are your favorite things
• 42:10
  about bartem Mania? Because you lived through it. I didn't get to live
• 42:13
  through that. Oh bart Mania. It was just everywhere like like all like
• 42:19
  I was really into like video games, so I was like totally eating up
• 42:22
  like all the nes games and all the Super Nintendo games. You know,
• 42:24
  Like I totally had the um like eat my shorts like T shirts and everything.
• 42:30
  Um, I freaking love bart Mania. Like the other thing was like
• 42:35
  bart Man, like he seemed to be everywhere, even though he was only
• 42:37
  in like what one episode, yeah, season two. Yeah. Yeah.
• 42:42
  When I was little, I thought like bart Man was like the coolest thing
• 42:45
  in the world. And I always wondered when I was little, like when
• 42:47
  is bart Man gonna come back on the show, because like bart was like
• 42:52
  the thing. But then like by seasons three and four and five, like
• 42:54
  it's like all about Homer, you know at that point. So it's kind
• 42:59
  of weird. I think it just became easy for the radas to ride for
• 43:01
  Homer then a ten year old boy. It's why the shows seemed to shift.
• 43:06
  Yeah, and it kind of shifted pretty quickly. Like like when you
• 43:08
  think of bart Mania, you think the like what season one and maybe half
• 43:13
  of season two maybe, like we're talking about nineteen ninety one and ninety two,
• 43:17
  right, yeah, because yeah, it would have been Yeah then because
• 43:21
  you think how many episodes started with bat or Bart does his Bart does that?
• 43:23
  Know? His first maybe three seasons at most, and then it's just
• 43:27
  all home. It goes to college, home with the Vigilante, home with
• 43:30
  this, home with that. It just becomes the home of show. Yeah,
• 43:32
  it makes you wonder why and like seat by season eight, when they're
• 43:36
  talking about like they need a poucie fire the show. I wonder if they
• 43:38
  were getting like, would there be an instinct to like try to bring Bart
• 43:43
  back as like the radical character, you know what I mean, because like
• 43:47
  they had Bart right there, Who's I'm not gonna say Bart is the Pucci
• 43:52
  of the family, but like if anybody in the family is the Pucci,
• 43:54
  it's Bart, you know. So I'm kind of surprised their instinct wasn't too
• 43:59
  shift back to Bart a little more. They do kind of acknowledge that in
• 44:01
  the episode where he mentioned that don't have a cowman catchphrase. But I guess
• 44:05
  maybe even by nine teenty seven, Bart's catch phrases what seemed cool in nineteen
• 44:09
  ninety weren't cool anymore. Yeah, that's true because he'd been around for like
• 44:15
  seven or eight years, and like, yeah, the radical nineties attitude.
• 44:20
  I guess you can't really just bring Bart back as like the cool I feel
• 44:23
  like saying cool hip character something may sound like such an old man right now,
• 44:29
  but like like being like the guy for the show again, Yeah he
• 44:32
  was cool though he was he was like the coolest git on TV. Yeah,
• 44:37
  I feel like he was still like the cool character. But like,
• 44:39
  I don't know, like you're right though, that everybody who was watching the
• 44:42
  Simpsons, not for like the Bart Show anymore, but just for everyone.
• 44:45
  Like Bart doesn't even really have anything to do in this episode other than like,
• 44:49
  yeah, like comic book guy. So we're now at the Itching Scratchy
• 44:52
  studios and he suggests they have a new character get introduced to the shows,
• 44:55
  just to the writers. And we get all the Simpsons writers here in this
• 44:59
  U. So what was the list of We had a Bill likely Josh Weinstein,
• 45:01
  David x Colm was there. David Silverman comes up in a few moments.
• 45:05
  We also get Dan McGrath, a Maxtone Graham, don't it carry run?
• 45:08
  How? I want to say his name is Ned Goldryer, and Mike
• 45:12
  Scully. I couldn't which one was Mike Scully though, Wait, isn't a
• 45:15
  isn't George Meyer there too? He's when it gets fired? Of course?
• 45:20
  Yes, yeah, that's right. Oh yeah, Mike Scully. Yeah,
• 45:22
  because I noticed there's like a couple guys in the room that just like never
• 45:25
  says anything. So I wonder if Mike Scully was one of them, or
• 45:29
  maybe like the sound booth perhaps, Yeah, I was kind of disappointed that
• 45:31
  didn't have those guys voice the characters, because surely they could have just voiced
• 45:36
  themselves, right, yeah, we're none of the people actually, because yeah,
• 45:39
  I haven't listened to the commentary in a while, but were any of
• 45:43
  those random voices any of the people, because they like they have that sound
• 45:45
  guy later and he has like a very specific voice, but like that's not
• 45:50
  the sound guy. No, it's not okay, because like they're so distinct
• 45:54
  and like it doesn't sound like, you know, the cartoon voice actory kind
• 45:58
  of voice. And do you think if you're writing the line, do you
• 46:00
  know how you want them to deliver it? So surely you could deliver them,
• 46:02
  but who knows. I bet they had a conversation about that and they
• 46:07
  were like, Okay, guys, this is a very self indulgent episode.
• 46:09
  Yeah, and it would be even more self indulgent to just have us voice
• 46:14
  the characters. So I bet they've probably had a conversation they're like, Okay,
• 46:16
  this is too far. We'll just have the voice actors do it.
• 46:20
  So they've they've designed Pucci, they've shed it in the glasses. He's got
• 46:23
  that cool factor. Now. I noticed them the Tuba in the background of
• 46:25
  that room because obviously David Sulman, big tuba fan, plays the tuba.
• 46:30
  Yeah, that was a nice detail. Like, do you think like because
• 46:34
  he ever had like the network standing over him while he's designing like that,
• 46:37
  Like, I feel like that probably happens all the time cynically, but you'd
• 46:42
  think David Silverman would be respected enough where he wouldn't have to deal with us.
• 46:45
  I think that was just their way of just sort of over emphasizing,
• 46:47
  Hey, get off of our backs, guys. Yeah. Was this also
• 46:51
  the first appearance of like the Lindsay nagelesque character. Oh, she's so weird
• 46:54
  in this, Like she has like weirdly brown hair, I think, and
• 46:59
  like she like weirdly Palid and Peel. It's clearly trust McNeil. It's Lindsay
• 47:04
  nageo, but it's just m whether we've actually seen it before, but she
• 47:07
  has always represented just the you know, the suits, hasn't she. Yeah,
• 47:10
  she's so good in this though. I like when I watched it just
• 47:13
  now. I really love the pause she gives after the guy corrects her and
• 47:17
  says, oh, you mean Cerberus the dog, and she just like stares
• 47:22
  at him for a moment and just like moves on. It's she's so perfectly
• 47:24
  performed. I have figured out how to rejuvenate the show. It is so
• 47:30
  simple, You egghead writers would have never thought of it. What we need
• 47:35
  is a new character, one that today's kids can relate to. Are you
• 47:42
  absolutely sure that's wise, sir? I mean, I don't want to sound
• 47:45
  pretentious here, but itchy and scratchy comprise a dramaturgical diet. Hey, the
• 47:49
  same artists business. What are you gotta mine? Sexy broad gangster ACTI plus
• 47:53
  no, No, the animal chain of command goes mouse cat, d O
• 48:00
  G dog. Isn't that a tad predictable in your dreams? We're talking the
• 48:07
  original dog from Hell? You mean Cerberus? We hit the network one.
• 48:12
  A dog with attitude. He's edgy, he's in your face. You've heard
• 48:15
  the expression let's get busy. Well, this is a dog who gets biz
• 48:22
  consistently and thoroughly. So he's proactive. Oh god, yes, we're talking
• 48:27
  about a totally outrageous paradigm. Excuse me, but proactive and paradigm aren't these
• 48:32
  just buzzwords that dumb people use to sound important. Not that I'm accusing you
• 48:37
  of anything like that, I'm fired, aren't I? Oh yes, the
• 48:40
  family you're all out eating breakfast. The Springfield Shop has the the headline funny
• 48:45
  Dog to make life worth while. At least it points out how adding a
• 48:46
  new character just a desperate attempt to add boost to low ratings, as we
• 48:51
  would get Roy. Roy was originally planned to be in Trious of Horror five
• 48:54
  during the Time and Punishment, the Time and Punishment segment. Let's don't know
• 48:59
  which is the time punishment the one with the toaster. Yeah that's right.
• 49:01
  Yeah, yeah, So he was going to be one of the ultimate realities
• 49:04
  where they have an extra, an extra son. Okay, I guess that
• 49:07
  makes a lot of sense because he is in this episode like an ultimate reality,
• 49:09
  and it's so cool how casually they treat him. It's just like,
• 49:14
  oh, hey, Roy, Like he's been there the entire time. It's
• 49:19
  it's just genius. Like you'd think there would be an instinct to like pucci
• 49:22
  by him and be like, oh, this is the cool new character,
• 49:24
  but to just be like, oh, he was just always here. It's
• 49:27
  such a cool creative choice. I wonder why he would have looked like in
• 49:30
  season that would have been season six trees fified what he would have looked like
• 49:34
  them, because they clearly based his design off a Pucci here, so you
• 49:37
  would have felt like they would have designed Puccie first and then designed Roy after.
• 49:39
  I wonder how he would have looked in Triess of Horror. Yeah,
• 49:43
  that's a good one, because I bet they would try to do something more
• 49:46
  like organic to the Simpsons style, like somewhere in the Bart Lisa kind of
• 49:52
  continuity, like I really want to see what that character would look like now,
• 49:55
  because there's no way they would do the the Roy design. No,
• 49:59
  No. I wonder whether he would have been cool and laid back like that
• 50:01
  as well. And it's interesting, but we're out the auditions. Did you
• 50:05
  see that the amount of people who were auditioned there, We've got some random
• 50:07
  people like Sarah Wiggham was there. I'm obviously trying to clear on line.
• 50:10
  On Hearts were in line, Courney and Jimbo were in line, Mishoover,
• 50:13
  Ruth Powers, I don't a mole man. And then we get a random
• 50:15
  guy with this curly black hair and another guy who kind of looks like the
• 50:19
  Springfields shopper reporter Dave Shutton just wearing Pj's it's a really weird character design.
• 50:23
  Do you think you're wearing? You got like all these known characters and then
• 50:27
  there's two randoms. You're standing there, You're like, what I mean?
• 50:30
  The world of the Simpsons is big. Springfield's a huge place. A dogging
• 50:36
  dog. Who were you guys smoking when you came up with that? We
• 50:40
  were eating word tissery chicken. Can you just read the line please, Ruf
• 50:45
  Ruff and Poochie the ragging dog. You're perfect, In fact, you're better
• 50:52
  than perfect. Next to you perfecting this crap ruf Rough. I'm Poucie the
• 50:58
  rock and Dog. Hi, I'm Troy McClure. You may remember me from
• 51:01
  such cartoons as Christmas Ape and Christmas Ape Goes to Summer Camp. You even
• 51:07
  better than this guy. Take a hike, you bump. We need to
• 51:13
  acknowledge Phil Hoptman. Whenever you get Phil Hoptman as always makes the episode that
• 51:16
  much better. The loss of Phil Hoptman truly felt like a part of the
• 51:20
  Simpsons soul was taken away, don't you reckon? Oh yeah? I agree?
• 51:23
  Like they're totally like, like, what are they gonna do for film
• 51:27
  strips? After? Like Phil Hartman's gone like like they're just all became kind
• 51:31
  of generic. They didn't even do them as much. He brought so much
• 51:34
  the show and even just kind of popping in for like, I mean,
• 51:37
  he's funny in this He's not like the highlighted episode, but just him being
• 51:42
  in the episode made it just a little tiny bit better. This scene,
• 51:44
  yes, but this is where joke Alshammer pays off. He gets the role,
• 51:47
  so he's he's doing his level checkings. Is where he mats June Bellamy.
• 51:51
  But you're a lady like you imagine how many people would have spoken to
• 51:54
  Nancy catt Riley's you can't be the voice of Bart you're a girl. Oh
• 51:58
  she she has in this conversation so many times. I think by this point
• 52:04
  everyone knows now, but in the nineties, man, it would have been
• 52:07
  horrific for us, surely. The weird thing about the scene is like that
• 52:10
  they have the voice actor for Itchy and Scratchy, Like, what does she
• 52:15
  do most of the time just scream as Scratchy? I think because this was
• 52:20
  kind of before the era of Itchy and Scratchy talking all the time. Like
• 52:23
  I feel like before this episode it was just mostly you know, like the
• 52:28
  Silent Cartoon kind of deal with maybe a few screams here there. So them
• 52:32
  introducing that she is the voice actor and they do talk to each other a
• 52:37
  lot. Kind of feels like they opened a can of worms with this episode.
• 52:39
  More I think about it, I never really actually thought about that.
• 52:42
  We've barely ever say anything. It's always just scratchy screaming and that's it.
• 52:45
  You're right, yeah, that's weird. But I mean to sort of emphasize
• 52:49
  the point they're going for. They need to have her be a voice artist.
• 52:52
  But we just spoke with them with Jim Cummings, the voice of Wouldney
• 52:53
  the Pooh and al least you know, a claimed Disney voice artists. He
• 52:57
  was talking about this one. He's just like so many people just walk up
• 53:00
  to him and just say, do the voice. It's like, oh,
• 53:05
  do they really? Like, yeah, how do they know it's him?
• 53:08
  Though? Because of you at conventions, you guys, people will like,
• 53:12
  you know, get a senat go do the voice. And He's like,
• 53:14
  I do a thousand voices, give me any more specific, please? But
• 53:17
  yeah, if I ever met Nancy Cartwright, there's no way, like I'd
• 53:21
  be too shy. First of all, but like to ask her, Oh,
• 53:24
  do like Nelson for me or Bart, like you know, like that's
• 53:28
  what they do for a living all day. Like if they want to do
• 53:30
  the voice to be fun or conversational, fine, but like, yeah,
• 53:35
  that's that's that's that's shitty. But when he's speaking to these guys, they're
• 53:38
  pros. They know you want to hear the voice, So if you just
• 53:40
  organically talking, they will just organically drop it into a conversation for you because
• 53:44
  I know you want to hear it, but don't ask to hear it.
• 53:46
  Yeah, like that. Like, there's so much about like fandom interaction with
• 53:52
  like production. There are so many lessons that can be learned in this one,
• 53:55
  either via Homer or during during the comic book Guy seeing Hi question from
• 54:00
  Miss Bellamy an episode two, phone nine one each he plays scratchy skeleton like
• 54:05
  a xylophone. He strikes to seem rib twice in succession. Yeah, he
• 54:08
  produces two clearly different tones. I mean, what are we to believe that
• 54:13
  this is some sort of magic xylophone or something. Boy, I really hope
• 54:19
  somebody got fired for that. Bondard. Well, I'll feel this one.
• 54:23
  Let me ask you a question Why would a man whose shirt says genius at
• 54:28
  work spend all of its time watching a children's cartoon show. I would draw
• 54:32
  my question. Yeah, excuse me on ast Sampson on the Itchy and Scratchy
• 54:39
  CD rom, Is there a way to get out of the dungeon without using
• 54:45
  the wizard? Gee? What the hell are you talking about? Do you
• 54:47
  think this is the most iconic moment from the episode besides the Pucci don and
• 54:51
  his wife back to his home planet. Oh for sure. It's definitely for
• 54:53
  me because I get the magic Xylophone YouTube comment constantly. So for me,
• 54:59
  this is a seeing I get to experience a lot like throughout throughout the year.
• 55:04
  What's funny is that, like when we were kids. When I was
• 55:06
  a kid, I always saw Doug the one who says the line as like,
• 55:08
  oh you prick, like you smart ass. But now I'm just like
• 55:12
  I kind of became him. I kind of became that nerd. Like,
• 55:16
  do you think though, that it was good for the fandom that we got
• 55:21
  roasted this thoroughly so early and it's run you know, because like you know,
• 55:25
  there's like it's been twenty years since this moment, and like the fact
• 55:29
  that we got called out so early. I kind of feel like it made
• 55:32
  the fandom better in a weird way where we're at least all self aware of
• 55:37
  what we're doing. Right, Yeah, I think at least by this point
• 55:42
  here of this episode. What it did was it made the hardcore fans realize,
• 55:44
  Oh, they are paying attention to us. We're not just ranting into
• 55:47
  nothing, into the into nothingness. So like that they are listening to us.
• 55:52
  So maybe they complained, you can complained less as a result, or
• 55:54
  do you just know them to complain more? Oh, they definitely complain more.
• 55:59
  This this is the Internet where it's talking about of course, Like I
• 56:02
  swear like you got you gotta read some of those capsules for the Principle and
• 56:07
  the Popper the following season, like like that's obviously the most extreme examples,
• 56:14
  but like, oh man, they had so much to say about the direction
• 56:19
  that the Simpsons were going in after that, Like I'm kind of surprised after
• 56:22
  them poking the bear that a giant shit storm didn't happen. They probably did,
• 56:28
  Like I'm probably just talking out ignorance, but like the shit storm,
• 56:30
  Like, can you imagine if this episode are made today in the era of
• 56:34
  Twitter, like how bad it would be for a show that was so beloved
• 56:37
  at the time. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, But the thing is,
• 56:40
  ten year old May watching Principle in the Paupa, I didn't care.
• 56:45
  I enjoyed, I didn't I wasn't bothered by it. But then when I
• 56:46
  got older, I was like, oh, yeah, I can see what
• 56:49
  people were annoyed at the time. But I think just because I wasn't old
• 56:52
  enough to understand how much it was fucking with the timeline of the skinny character,
• 56:58
  that didn't bother me, and it's still to this day doesn't really bother
• 57:00
  me. I'm just like, yeah, whatever, Yeah, the actual continuity
• 57:02
  doesn't bother me that much either, just because it's kind of it's kind of
• 57:06
  a cool direction to take the character. Like what bothers me is like,
• 57:10
  like it's kind of a it's kind of a gimmicky episode. Like that's the
• 57:13
  only thing I don't like about it is kind of soap opera, you know,
• 57:15
  which I feel like the Simpsons should be above um. But in terms
• 57:19
  of what I did Simpson to Skinner's character, Like, I'm more annoyed that
• 57:23
  they just don't care about the episode and they do all these like you know,
• 57:27
  screenshots of him like in the womb of like ass where like, yeah,
• 57:30
  it's kind of weird now and him and him being like the army hero
• 57:35
  that he want that he says he was when he wasn't. Really, I'm
• 57:37
  just like, but we've already established he wasn't. I'm really, I'm willing
• 57:40
  to go to principle the pulbar, but at least keep that as the continuity
• 57:43
  going forward. But anyway, it doesn't matter. It's not right about that
• 57:47
  salmon right now. Yeah, but I did I see that Ethan Sloane,
• 57:53
  a fan of yours on YouTube be commented on your your your Itchy and Scratchy
• 57:59
  time. I think it was that Benjamin the Nerd is the guy who pulls
• 58:02
  the plug on the TV during the Home Goes to College episode during the episode
• 58:07
  of Itchy and Scratchy in which Scratchy finally gets itchy. Right, but now
• 58:10
  they're apparently huge fans were just supposed to huge fans afterwards. Wow, Yeah,
• 58:15
  I've legit never thought about Yeah, it was a rock tumbler he wanted
• 58:19
  to plug in. Uh well, I hope someone was fired for that.
• 58:24
  Plus also, whenever you get database as a character. I just love it.
• 58:28
  We need more database representation on the show. He's he's a good character.
• 58:31
  We do. Everyone's over now at the Simpsons house for the premiere,
• 58:36
  and I'm Barney's there. Did you hear that Barney says, I've never heard
• 58:38
  this before. In the background, you hear him say, Poochie's based on
• 58:40
  me. Yeah. I love I love that detail. I love that,
• 58:44
  like that they're even just having a party to begin with to invite everybody to
• 58:46
  watch like a four minute like kids animated cartoon. But it's so nineteen ninety
• 58:52
  seven, Oh, isn't it to have people ever to watch? Because you
• 58:54
  know, you can't just stream it later on if you're in case you miss
• 58:58
  you've go'll be watching it at the time back in the time in the day
• 59:00
  where New Simpsons. If you didn't tape it, man, you have to
• 59:01
  waite the syndication that could you may never get it to see that episode again.
• 59:06
  Yeah, that's true. So did they just all get together and just
• 59:07
  watch part of Crusted the Clown together to watch the like and like mo is
• 59:13
  like wearing a suit for some reason, and like like every like I know,
• 59:16
  like it's their friend. Homer like if if one of my friends were
• 59:20
  in an animated cartoon, I would definitely watch, even if it was just
• 59:22
  like a little kids show or whatever. And also I like animation. I'm
• 59:25
  not gonna knock it, but like the fact that everybody got together as a
• 59:29
  big party and like Mo dressed up like warms my heart so much. Yeah.
• 59:32
  I always love when he calls a Midge as well, Midge out me,
• 59:35
  out of you. Yeah, most of the best. I want that
• 59:39
  Jasper's there as well. I feel like Jesspa was just to support Grandpa because
• 59:43
  Grandpa's a so you bought a buddy Andrew need him to like set up the
• 59:46
  like little girl joke with the Nancy Cartwright reference. Yes, very important.
• 59:51
  Also it's a it gets sort of back reference reference later on. I think
• 59:53
  it is principle in the Pulpa because Jasper did money come by himself. It's
• 59:57
  like, why is Grandpa here in the car? Oh yeah, that's right
• 1:00:00
  there you go like like that is good. See, we complained about their
• 1:00:05
  continuity with Doug, but that is good continuity that Grandpa would want a friend
• 1:00:07
  to this important important event. Yes, so the bagel has landed at as
• 1:00:14
  and this whole thing Millhouse is just like, why don't you give the fireworks
• 1:00:17
  factory? That's a lot das used all the time when something's taken too long.
• 1:00:21
  Yeah, like fireworks factory has become shorthand for like the cool thing like
• 1:00:27
  you hold a future of comedy? Jay at a bar, it's our new
• 1:01:00
  friend, Poochie. What's that name again? I forgot the DAMESCI and I
• 1:01:07
  rock. Don tell you I'm have Joe Camel in a third bunch a rally.
• 1:01:09
  I'm the Kungkou hippie from Banksta City. I'm a rapping surfer unifolap oh,
• 1:01:15
  poor cheese. Why outrageous, dude, he's totally in my face.
• 1:01:22
  Who gonna make any dup? I can Bertie? Where are they gonna get
• 1:01:25
  to the fireworks factory? Okay, somebody tell me what the hell is going
• 1:01:31
  on? Made sholp me out here? Why you're missing the jokes? Catch
• 1:01:43
  on the fifth time? Dude? Mystics not Hey, kids always recycle the
• 1:01:50
  Extreme Buster and I thought it was a great white does this sort of reiter
• 1:01:58
  write? How much of a douche this guy is? That you don't get
• 1:02:00
  to say the fireworks factory? He just drives past it at the end.
• 1:02:02
  Like when I watched this back, is like, is their active sabotage on
• 1:02:07
  the part of the writers, you know what I mean? Because like they
• 1:02:10
  have to know how bad this is, that they're teeing up the fireworks factory
• 1:02:15
  or whatever. Like I feel like there's some kind of sabotage going on,
• 1:02:20
  whether they're like the network's making us do this, Let's make it as shitty
• 1:02:23
  as possible. Yeah, they did not like the character of Pucie. They
• 1:02:27
  wanted you to not lock him as well. But as you were saying that
• 1:02:30
  when you were younger, he kind of locked him. Yeah, Like I
• 1:02:32
  admit it. Like, what's weird about the continuity of the Simpsons now?
• 1:02:36
  Like I mentioned that Barbarasus Itchy and Scratchy episode in season thirty, but there
• 1:02:39
  are characters wearing Pucci shirts in that episode where it's reached the point where Poucci
• 1:02:46
  is a fun nostalgic relic of the nineties. Where I guess in Cannon people
• 1:02:52
  like Pucci now, or at least some people do. Although how does that
• 1:02:57
  work with Homer doing the voice now they think about it like he's almost like
• 1:03:00
  a funny relic on the show. It's really weird. Yeah, what's It's
• 1:03:04
  the point where like in the real world here is that like Super seven just
• 1:03:07
  released some Pucci figures. Yeah have you seen have you seen the Super seven
• 1:03:12
  figures? The ones that looks awesome? Yeah? Like those are those are
• 1:03:14
  like the really nice ones that are like are those the ones that are like
• 1:03:16
  possible too? Yeah? It's super expensive. Yeah, Like I see those
• 1:03:22
  and I was like, man, I wish I had more disposable income and
• 1:03:24
  space as well. Yes, because it's just like yeah, because in Australia
• 1:03:28
  they're one hundred and twenty I think Australian dolls, and I'm like, for
• 1:03:31
  a toy, I don't think my wife would appreciate this, yeah exactly.
• 1:03:36
  But like yeah, like Pucci, like Puccie's worth it though, like he
• 1:03:38
  is, like like I know he's bad in this episode, but like after
• 1:03:43
  twenty years of like nostalgia and what he represents and just the radical nineties in
• 1:03:46
  general, like I can get behind Pucci again if they brought back Pucci into
• 1:03:51
  the real Simpsons, Like I'm on board now. Sure. If you have
• 1:03:53
  Pucci plush at University Studios, I'd totally buy it for sure. Yeah.
• 1:03:58
  Yeah, they definitely because they have itchy and scratchy for sure. I bought
• 1:04:01
  a itchy I think, but yeah, like no Poocie anywhere, come on.
• 1:04:05
  Yeah, So him is sad now because it didn't go too well and
• 1:04:08
  this is it's not his fault and Poochie is just the soulless byproduct of committee
• 1:04:11
  thinking, which you know again the writers just saying fuck you to Fox.
• 1:04:15
  You know, we're not gonna be introducing any new characters, and a lot
• 1:04:17
  the buzzwords like don't have a count a lot. I did love that when
• 1:04:20
  Bill Oakley was just saying, you know, it was a bit like it
• 1:04:23
  was George Meyer says, you know George words. Yeah, I'm fired,
• 1:04:26
  an't I? Yes? Oh yeah, like I had to like when I
• 1:04:30
  was taking business classes in college, we had to read um, I can't
• 1:04:34
  remember which one it was. It was like the Seven Habits of Highly Successful
• 1:04:38
  People, I think, and that book was full of those stupid business buzzwords.
• 1:04:44
  I think one of the habits is literally to be proactive, and this
• 1:04:47
  episode has ruined that forever. Whereas like, I can't take any of this
• 1:04:50
  seriously because you're all full of garbage. Yes, says at least the fans
• 1:04:55
  liked it. And then we cut to Bat in the Comic Book Guy moment,
• 1:04:57
  and this is the birth of worst episode ever, which again one of
• 1:05:00
  the most iconic lines and they guess still gets used to this day. Worst
• 1:05:03
  episode ever, you just worst insert line ever? Yeah, for sure,
• 1:05:08
  Like it definitely became like Comic Book Guy was always like that, but like
• 1:05:12
  this was really the Comic Book Guy worst blank ever era of the show for
• 1:05:16
  him. Yeah, and even like Bart giving it an actual response saying,
• 1:05:20
  no, if anything you owe them, they give you countless thousands of ows
• 1:05:23
  of f entertainment and it's just like no worst episode ever, So I don't
• 1:05:26
  want to hear it it's the worst episode ever. But this was definitely them
• 1:05:29
  just talking directly to Alta TV Dot Simpson. This was like the moment for
• 1:05:32
  them. How do you feel about that speech with Bart? Like every time
• 1:05:35
  I watch it, I am watching him and I was like, he definitely
• 1:05:40
  is correct just in general. But I always wonder how well this scene works
• 1:05:45
  in the context of the episode, because like they definitely made the scene because
• 1:05:47
  they had an axe to grind about, like the comments they were getting on
• 1:05:50
  Alta Simpsons. But in the episode. I kind of feel like Bart should
• 1:05:55
  be like, yeah, that episode did suck a lot, and it was
• 1:05:59
  probably the first episode ever, you know, like like they're definitely using Bart
• 1:06:03
  as their like mouthpiece here, and I like every time I watch it always
• 1:06:06
  feels weird to me that Bart is giving the speech at this moment when the
• 1:06:13
  show sucks, you know, whereas like I feel like the speech would be
• 1:06:15
  more valid if the show we're still good. Like I know, I'm making
• 1:06:20
  a very nitpicky argument that like they're probably would complain about, you know,
• 1:06:26
  like that's what the episode is satirizing. But like in the context of this
• 1:06:29
  story, it's a very weird place to put this argument that they need to
• 1:06:33
  make. It's just I don't know how all it flows in terms of its
• 1:06:36
  placement, to the point where Bot even cheese when Pucci gets killed off,
• 1:06:42
  so it's like, yeah, like clearly it's the worst episode ever. I
• 1:06:45
  mean, I don't know. I'm kind of going back and forth there because
• 1:06:47
  he does need to make that statement of like was Comic book Guy just always
• 1:06:54
  complaining about itchy and scratchy like even before this, like was he part of
• 1:06:59
  I don't know, I'm trying to go out a way to fix the episode
• 1:07:00
  where he's already a whiny bitch before this moment. Sorry, sorry to say
• 1:07:05
  it that way. Maybe it's because his dad's now involved, he feels a
• 1:07:08
  need to have to defend it. Yeah, that's true, because like,
• 1:07:12
  once your dad is involved, you're like, yeah, that's a good point,
• 1:07:15
  because if my dad were doing it and it's still sucked, you're like,
• 1:07:18
  hey, you know, they're still putting in an effort, like like
• 1:07:21
  what do they owe you? Yes, anyway, that's that's one way of
• 1:07:26
  writing out of this hole. But they dugged themselves into anyway. Yeah,
• 1:07:29
  you turned me around on the argument. I think Brockman is he said he's
• 1:07:33
  been waiting patiently for Cracks to appear in in the show's hilarious facade, And
• 1:07:38
  I don't remember. Were there people in the media just I guess the ones
• 1:07:41
  who are criticized in the early episodes of the Simpson saying how crude it was.
• 1:07:44
  I guess they were waiting for this moment for people to sort of not
• 1:07:46
  like the show anymore. Is that who Brockman's representing here? Yeah, I
• 1:07:50
  think there definitely was, like some of this might be a little bit in
• 1:07:55
  the writer's head, because you know, when you're working on the production,
• 1:07:58
  it feels that way, even though maybe like ninety nine percent the country doesn't
• 1:08:01
  care, but you know, those media outlets and like the people reviewing are
• 1:08:05
  always looking for that first like crack in the armor. When I was watching
• 1:08:11
  it, I was like thinking of Pixar, for example, because I remember
• 1:08:14
  when Pixar went on their amazing run of movies, there was kind of the
• 1:08:18
  sense sense where everybody's just waiting for them to make that bad first movie,
• 1:08:24
  where everybody's like, Pixar is over, It's done. And I think with
• 1:08:29
  the Simpsons people definitely, I think people definitely were having that attitude towards the
• 1:08:33
  show. There's an aspect of jealousy. It's like, how can these guys
• 1:08:36
  possibly be putting out these good content for eight years? How dare they?
• 1:08:41
  Yeah? I like, and I think with like media like entertainment tonight,
• 1:08:45
  I think you're just always looking for a story as well, So they were
• 1:08:48
  probably feeling some of that too. Nego was handbling the blame. Sand's shifting
• 1:08:51
  demographic and crusty places. You got to do something, getting egged on the
• 1:08:55
  straight and this is behind it comes in with these suggestions. O love the
• 1:08:58
  where's Pucci? That's always one of my friend Yeah. I think that might
• 1:09:00
  be my favorite reference in the episode where people are like, when blank is
• 1:09:05
  an on screen, everybody should be asking where who? Where is A?
• 1:09:08
  Blank? Is something I see all the time online. Call up this podcast.
• 1:09:11
  Everyone should be saying, where's guy? Yeah? Where is guy?
• 1:09:14
  We shouldn't be talking about it constantly. On this said we're gonna kill Pucci
• 1:09:18
  up? Really? Oh? How terrible? Yes terrible. It's not your
• 1:09:25
  fault, Homer. It's those lousy riders. They make me matter than them.
• 1:09:30
  Yea heat. I love the animation on her thinking what to say,
• 1:09:36
  Like her eye like kind of cocks a little bit, and she's like,
• 1:09:40
  a yeah, can heat. And she's very proud of that. She's like,
• 1:09:42
  yep, I came up with that one. That's a zinger. And
• 1:09:45
  Homer says that he won't let him treat Puccia like dirt anymore, and then
• 1:09:46
  yells at Roy. So now, when the closing sevens of the episode,
• 1:09:50
  Homer goes off script, you know, just say please get off my head.
• 1:09:54
  I don't deserve to live. But he won't do it, and then
• 1:09:57
  June threatens to leave here, then let even do it so it gives his
• 1:10:00
  hotfelt speech and I love always loved how they play it up, like,
• 1:10:01
  oh wait a minute, Home has turned them here, they're going to keep
• 1:10:03
  Home home? Is that going a job? He's going to voice acting Gig
• 1:10:05
  Puccie staying And know when they watched the episode, it turns out to be
• 1:10:10
  very different. Yeah, it's really well done because Roger Meyers Junior or Roger
• 1:10:15
  is Roger Meyers Junior. Right, he is like the most cynical and sarcastic
• 1:10:20
  person ever, Like Alex Rocco is the man with this kind of character,
• 1:10:25
  and like the fact that even he turns in this moment, like it's not
• 1:10:29
  fake or at least like you don't interpret it as fake to you, Well,
• 1:10:31
  I interpret it is that he turned them. But then the executives are
• 1:10:35
  like, I don't give a shit, Wait, get this guy. Yeah,
• 1:10:39
  yeah, the fact that Homer's speech is so good that he turns Roger
• 1:10:42
  Myers Junior. But yeah, like then like you know, they get to
• 1:10:45
  him and they and like they change back later. It's it's such a it's
• 1:10:47
  such a good reveal. Later, No, kids, I know you love
• 1:10:53
  the old Pucci, But the new ones going to be better than ten super
• 1:10:57
  Bowls. I don't want to oversell it. Judge for yourself. Hi,
• 1:11:05
  Hocie, you look like you've got something to say, do you. Yes,
• 1:11:11
  I certainly do. I have to go now, my planet needs me.
• 1:11:19
  Wow, Poocie came from another planet. Yeah, that wasn't supposed to
• 1:11:25
  happen. Those things double crushed me Poochie's dad. I always thought it was
• 1:11:33
  weird that, like they didn't even animate the mouth. It's like they would
• 1:11:36
  have animated the mouth anyway, So why did they not animate the mouth of
• 1:11:40
  the scene. It's just sort of over emphasizes how last last minute it was
• 1:11:44
  going to be our guess, but wouldn't have animated the mouth anyway. Yeah,
• 1:11:46
  that's true. But I do like kind of the like kind of the
• 1:11:49
  storytelling that where you could argue through it and be like, okay, wow,
• 1:11:53
  this really was this late where they were like, no, we had
• 1:11:58
  a meeting, we're doing it this way. We are literally pulling the cell
• 1:12:01
  off of the screen. This bad, you know, and they're just like,
• 1:12:04
  what is a sharpie marker on the next screen? Like I love the
• 1:12:08
  animation of like the cell coming off the screen is so like you could tell
• 1:12:13
  that this was a last second. No, we're doing it this way.
• 1:12:15
  My favorite thing is that whistle of the It is so perfectly actually good,
• 1:12:24
  awesome, So homes that he's devastated. He said, unfortunately he's lost creative
• 1:12:28
  control of the project. I forgot to ask for any money. Just their
• 1:12:30
  way of writing out the continuity going Ford, because sure you would have got
• 1:12:32
  some money for it the kids. And then I'm watching Cheene Scratchy again and
• 1:12:35
  they said we should think out lucky stars that they're still putting on a show
• 1:12:38
  of this caligraphed for so many years, and what house is on? They
• 1:12:41
  turn it off? Yeah, I just sell. This episode was a real
• 1:12:44
  time capsule of whether Simpsons was at in nine twenty seven, Like they were
• 1:12:46
  so ingrained in our lives that even even watching them every day, you still
• 1:12:49
  wanted them there. Oh yeah, like yeah, we did all just become
• 1:12:56
  those people where like we would put it on, but we weren't like actively
• 1:13:00
  like engage with it, or maybe we don't even put it on anymore.
• 1:13:04
  It's just like we want it to exist, but we don't want to be
• 1:13:09
  present for it anymore. I've always described The Simpsons for me is kind of
• 1:13:13
  like a family member to the point where I'm just like I never want them
• 1:13:15
  to end. But there come a point when, like the mid teens,
• 1:13:17
  where I'm like, I just killed the shelf aready, like it's probably just
• 1:13:19
  done. But now I'm just like, you've been going for so long,
• 1:13:21
  just keep it going. Yeah, And like you know, anybody, any
• 1:13:27
  fan of animation these days, knows that the animation industry is kind of a
• 1:13:30
  mess in general, and the fact that The Simpsons has been able to just
• 1:13:34
  be this kind of steady rock where you know, if you want to pop
• 1:13:38
  in watch the Simpsons, like it's just going to be there, or if
• 1:13:42
  you've had your fill of The Simpsons, like you could take a break,
• 1:13:45
  you can not watch for a while if you want to, Like it's there
• 1:13:47
  if you want it. Some people do watch it every single week, and
• 1:13:50
  like God bless them, you know, like people want it, you know,
• 1:13:55
  but like the fact that it's just a round and it's an option is
• 1:13:58
  kind of nice, all right. So that is and scratching and puch.
• 1:14:00
  But now, you know, with speaking here with the real gyms, I've
• 1:14:03
  got a question, who is the real gym? Tell us what made you
• 1:14:06
  want to start this huge child because you originally started doing just video game videos,
• 1:14:11
  right, Yeah, So it's funny you bring that up, because yeah,
• 1:14:15
  I do have some random old video game videos on there. I was
• 1:14:19
  that was from like a time when like a friend of mine was like starting
• 1:14:24
  up a video game website. I was like, Okay, I'll try to
• 1:14:27
  make things for you. But really, like that was kind of the channel
• 1:14:31
  ended up being kind of a creative outlet for myself. I don't know if
• 1:14:35
  you're the same way, but like sometimes on some of those work evenings,
• 1:14:41
  you have a little extra free time or whatever, is you just like write
• 1:14:44
  up something or you just want to venture creativity. So I ended up just
• 1:14:48
  starting to make those sixty seconds Simpsons videos. The Simpsons is something that I
• 1:14:54
  was very into. I was into like the message boards and stuff like that.
• 1:14:57
  I was like chatting with everybody, and I I thought it'd be fun
• 1:15:00
  to just put some of these together for the people on the message boards who
• 1:15:02
  would watch them. And so that ended up being this kind of fun thing
• 1:15:06
  to do. And then one thing led to another where people just wanted started
• 1:15:11
  wanting longer videos. So I started doing like Simpsons Mysteries videos and then the
• 1:15:15
  Histories videos, and they just kind of got longer and longer, which ended
• 1:15:19
  up taking up a little more of my free time. But eventually it just
• 1:15:23
  became like a full time like side thing that I do um as just kind
• 1:15:29
  of a fun passion project, creative outlet. Well, eventually it will become
• 1:15:31
  your job, you would have to assume, because it's the challenge is growing
• 1:15:34
  from strength to strength. But like I remember, the first mystery video of
• 1:15:38
  yours I remember watching, I think was the Mister Burns one, Who shot
• 1:15:41
  Mister Burns? I think that was like the third one. First they did
• 1:15:45
  like this, the Soul one, and then yeah, and then eventually the
• 1:15:48
  who Shot Mister Burns stuff happened. Yeah, that was for me, the
• 1:15:51
  one I just went, hey, he's onto something here because this video is
• 1:15:55
  getting a lot of view He's getting a lot of traction. But this guy,
• 1:15:58
  Yeah, that was a really fun one to actually, to be honest,
• 1:16:00
  I started the Simpsons Mysteries videos as a excuse to eventually do that who
• 1:16:05
  Shot Mister Burns video because I really want to do it. I had the
• 1:16:09
  alternate solution that I wanted to do, and like you know, if you
• 1:16:13
  start the series, you eventually have to do the video. Like I almost
• 1:16:16
  like made myself do this video that I didn't want to do because I thought
• 1:16:20
  everybody would make fun of me, to be quite honest, because you know,
• 1:16:24
  you know what I mean, because everybody's like, well, Maggie did
• 1:16:26
  it? You know, like doing a just for fun alternate answer. You
• 1:16:30
  know, it's very easy to get, like the internet to be like,
• 1:16:32
  hey, take a look at this guy. You know, so what's your
• 1:16:35
  friend's response to what you what you do? Because I still tell my friends
• 1:16:39
  what do you do or whatever, and I'm just like, do a podcast?
• 1:16:42
  Oh ya, what about the Simpsons? Like oh yeah, cool,
• 1:16:45
  Yeah, that's pretty cool. It's gone pretty well. Oh yeah, I'm
• 1:16:47
  sure it is. Well, do your friends like even fully supportive? Do
• 1:16:50
  you sometimes sort of guy? Yeah, I do a YouTube channel about the
• 1:16:53
  Simpsons. Yeah, so that is a complicated question, funnily enough, because
• 1:16:59
  I haven't told all of my friends that I do the YouTube channel. Ironically,
• 1:17:04
  it's kind of funny where I don't really tell them. I've never even
• 1:17:09
  told my parents, to be honest, that I do this channel, and
• 1:17:12
  I've been doing it for so long. Yeah, but like, I didn't
• 1:17:15
  tell my friends either, because you know, they don't care about the Simpsons
• 1:17:18
  anyway. The only reason why some of my friends found out is because when
• 1:17:23
  I started my Twitter, somehow it got sent out to like my contacts list
• 1:17:29
  or whatever, and some of my college friends found me and they're like,
• 1:17:33
  oh, so, what is this, like the real Jim thing? So
• 1:17:36
  then I was busted with all my friends from college. Luckily, some of
• 1:17:41
  my other friends, like from high school and work think like my my like
• 1:17:45
  day job. Luckily they don't know about it. We're not, luckily,
• 1:17:49
  But it's just it's one of these weird things where I don't know how interested
• 1:17:55
  they would be. There's also some like weird internal like self esteem thing where
• 1:18:01
  it's like how weird are they going to find it? Also, when you've
• 1:18:04
  been doing it for ten years and don't tell them, they're going to be
• 1:18:08
  like, you know, like that's really weird that you don't tell them.
• 1:18:12
  So the whole thing is kind of snowballed. I suppose I should probably quote
• 1:18:15
  unquote come out to them eventually that I'm a YouTuber, But yeah, the
• 1:18:19
  whole thing is a little complicated right now. It's funny you say that,
• 1:18:23
  regardless of how successful you're out with doing it, I still, for some
• 1:18:26
  reason feel embarrassed telling someone else that I do a podcast about the Simpsons.
• 1:18:30
  I don't know why. I kind of explained it, but someone goes,
• 1:18:31
  oh, it's what's it about? And I go, it's the Simpsons.
• 1:18:33
  And I feel nervous when I tell them, thinking that they're gonna be like
• 1:18:36
  they'll be laughing at me. But they all seem pretty supportive. But I'm
• 1:18:39
  just like, for some reason, doing a show better at nineties animated series.
• 1:18:43
  I mean, it's the one, yeah, but the nineties ear of
• 1:18:45
  an animated series just seems like it's childish, even though it's not. Yeah,
• 1:18:48
  I think it's like the childishness. I feel like a lot of it
• 1:18:51
  is built up in your own head. Obviously a lot of neuro season and
• 1:18:57
  securities. Like the thing with my parents is there is the kind of childish
• 1:19:00
  aspect of where it's like my parents will be like my son is doing videos
• 1:19:05
  about a cartoon show, you know, to spare time, Like why doesn't
• 1:19:11
  he get a real hobby? Like maybe if they found out that I was
• 1:19:14
  actually making some extra money, you know, maybe they would like be more
• 1:19:17
  on board. I'm sure they would be fine. Like, my parents are
• 1:19:19
  super supportive. It's just you know, every person has their own hang ups
• 1:19:25
  with telling their parents things. You know. Yeah, so yeah, that's
• 1:19:28
  that's like, it's funny that you're bringing this up because I joke that my
• 1:19:30
  New Year's resolution this year is to tell my parents finally that I do this
• 1:19:34
  channel all the time. It turns out they subscribe to the channel already.
• 1:19:38
  Does that know it's you. Yeah, with parents are like, oh,
• 1:19:41
  we already knew. We just didn't like to, like, you know,
• 1:19:44
  the parents know things that you don't know, so I'm gonna be surprised.
• 1:19:47
  It's like when I last August, i quit my full time job to focus
• 1:19:51
  on podcasting. Trying to tell my parents that conversation. I had to build
• 1:19:55
  myself up to that because then one of these people that is very conserved that
• 1:19:58
  it's like, but that doesn't work. You know, Hey, you're gonna
• 1:20:01
  make money, Hey you're gonna pay the mortgage. I'm like, mammm,
• 1:20:03
  it's fine, it's fine, it's fine. But like for some raising,
• 1:20:05
  telling your parents it's always it's always a hard thing. But I wanted to
• 1:20:09
  you're talking about the video game videos earlier on I wanted to touch on that.
• 1:20:13
  So are you a gamer or was that just something that you were just
• 1:20:15
  doing at the time. Yeah, I play games like in my spare time.
• 1:20:19
  Like I played a lot of like Nintendo stuff when I was younger.
• 1:20:24
  It's it's all right because what I was taking a short break earlier, I
• 1:20:27
  was playing a couple of rounds of Splatoon, which is funny. So so
• 1:20:30
  it's funny that it's funny that where that that topic came up. But yeah,
• 1:20:34
  I play a decent amount of games, Like I don't have like the
• 1:20:38
  thing we're doing the channel as well as having a full time job is I
• 1:20:41
  don't have as much time to game these days, but I do like playing
• 1:20:45
  games and stuff. What's your love of Simpsons games? Like what's the nostalgia
• 1:20:47
  for you? Like what do you remember playing the most when it came to
• 1:20:49
  Simpsons games, Because I haven't made that many really good ones. Oh yeah,
• 1:20:53
  there's barely any good Simpsons games. There's maybe like two and a half
• 1:20:59
  maybe, Like I like some of the old nes ones, like I played
• 1:21:02
  through like Bart Versus the World and Spaces. I played some of Bart's Nightmare
• 1:21:10
  on rentals. Um. Probably the games I played the most though, where
• 1:21:13
  when UM Simpson's Road Rage came out, and then when Simpsons Hid and Run
• 1:21:17
  came out, I played a whole bunch of that. UM Hid and Run
• 1:21:20
  is obviously like the gold standard of Simpsons games at this point. I think
• 1:21:26
  it's one of the gold standards of games I still played to this day.
• 1:21:28
  I love that game. Yeah, it is so ridiculously good for a GTA
• 1:21:31
  clone yeuck off. You know, it's so good. That good. Yeah,
• 1:21:36
  it's like it's like watching a golden era episode of Simpsons but you're playing
• 1:21:41
  it. It's so great. Yeah. I think if I recalled, didn't
• 1:21:44
  it a Matt Selman helped write that game, Yeah, he definitely did.
• 1:21:46
  Yeah, and he's sort of been one of these people that wants to have
• 1:21:49
  a remastered version or a sequel. I would be all I'll be totally down
• 1:21:53
  for that. People have been trying and trying for years. Do you think
• 1:21:56
  it would actually work though, Simpsons Hit and Run remaster? Oh yeah,
• 1:22:00
  I think I think a lot of people would turn out for that if they
• 1:22:01
  did it. I can't remember who has the rights, Activision or whoever,
• 1:22:06
  UM, but oh yeah, because there is so much nostalgia for that game,
• 1:22:12
  and like, to be honest, like Xbox GameCube and PS two era
• 1:22:16
  is really hot right now in terms of nostalgia. I feel like, so
• 1:22:20
  if they're ever going to do a remake, they should do it soon in
• 1:22:25
  my opinion. Well, it's because they added the soundtrack to Spotify. Fox
• 1:22:28
  had Disney added the centrac to Spotify? Did they about six months ago?
• 1:22:31
  And everyone went, well, that's an interesting little step towards a positive direction.
• 1:22:35
  So hopefully we can make it happen, because I'd be all about it.
• 1:22:39
  Yeah, yeah, there is a ridiculously good that's a ridiculously good soundtrack.
• 1:22:44
  I played it a lot, so, oh yeah, if they do
• 1:22:45
  it, I'm on board. I use them. You know when you did
• 1:22:48
  the shopping with them in the phone booth and had that music in the background
• 1:22:50
  when you're flicking through the that's my promost phone. Whenever it did this podcast,
• 1:22:55
  that's the music I go too every time because everyone just remembers that music.
• 1:22:58
  It's so great. Okay, I didn't I didn't even catch that.
• 1:23:00
  Wow, that's a that's a that's a deep drop right there. So have
• 1:23:03
  you ever been as passionate about another shows. What you add at the Simpsons,
• 1:23:06
  Oh, in terms of total amount of passion, probably not. I
• 1:23:12
  would say, like considering all the time that I spent looking at Simpsons like
• 1:23:18
  screen caps all the time. Like, there are other shows that I follow
• 1:23:21
  pretty closely, like um, like I followed like some of the reality TV
• 1:23:27
  like industry, like the seasons of Survivor. There's been like forty four seasons
• 1:23:31
  of United States Survivors. So I've been like, I follow that and like
• 1:23:35
  listen to those podcasts and stuff, but not to like the point of like
• 1:23:40
  making content about anything like that. Yeah, because we had one of that
• 1:23:44
  passions as what's your other favorite animated series? Like do you have any others
• 1:23:46
  that he's sort of no hold as high as the Simptons, But what do
• 1:23:48
  you go to see the Simpsons aren't on if you're not just feeling like the
• 1:23:51
  Simpsons, oh, for animated I do like some of the other like animation
• 1:23:56
  domination shows, Like I really enjoy Bob's Burgers. That's a really good show.
• 1:24:00
  Somebody recently like suggested The Great North, So I've been watching that like
• 1:24:05
  for the first time recently, which that's very wholesome In terms of other animated
• 1:24:10
  stuff. I haven't watched as much lately, to be quite honest, Like
• 1:24:15
  I watched on HBO Max a while ago. I watched Final Space, and
• 1:24:18
  I really enjoyed that a lot. Although that show is done back in the
• 1:24:24
  day, I really got it. I really went through a regular show phase
• 1:24:28
  when that was my cartoon network. That show was really good. But literally,
• 1:24:32
  I haven't watched as many animated shows aside from The Simpsons. Maybe I
• 1:24:36
  just look at the Simpsons too long. What kind of shows do you enjoy,
• 1:24:40
  Like, what are your recommendations? Well, we just started a King
• 1:24:43
  of the Hill podcast, and I'd never watched King of the Hill before in
• 1:24:45
  my life, and I'm gonna say I'm surprised it's techn me this long to
• 1:24:48
  watch it because the show is great. You ever watched King of the Hill?
• 1:24:53
  Yeah, I have watched some King of the Hill. Like I think
• 1:24:56
  I fell out of it after the first couple seasons. I remember what was
• 1:25:00
  going on at the time, but I liked King of the Hill, but
• 1:25:02
  it was so like there is something about the dryness at the time, where
• 1:25:08
  like I just kind of bounced off of it after a while. But like,
• 1:25:10
  I feel like it's the kind of thing that I would enjoy because all
• 1:25:13
  the episodes I've watched, I've enjoyed. But it's just so aggressively down to
• 1:25:16
  earth. I have to be in the mood for it. What's the thing?
• 1:25:18
  Because I was such a Simpsons kid growing up in the nineties when this
• 1:25:21
  show came on, I just expected it to be a Simpsons client and when
• 1:25:24
  it was so the opposite of what the Simpsons was, like you said so
• 1:25:27
  dry, I think just a little like ten year old Mee was like,
• 1:25:29
  what what is this is boring? If anything? But now thirty four year
• 1:25:32
  old me, I'm just like, this is just I've become Hank heell.
• 1:25:34
  Now I don't understand the word around me anymore. How does the Texas aspect
• 1:25:40
  of it like work for you, like living in Australia, because like I'm
• 1:25:44
  in Ohio and like Texas is like almost a foreign country to me. So
• 1:25:48
  like a lot of the Texas isms, you know, with the propane and
• 1:25:53
  all that, like down there is really weird to me. So how does
• 1:25:55
  that read to you like over there? Well, we're only two or three
• 1:25:59
  episodes in, so Father hasn't really been focusing on the Texas sort of aspect,
• 1:26:01
  but the second episode was real conservative without teaching sex head in the school,
• 1:26:05
  and they're real conservative about that, So like we're getting we're learning more
• 1:26:09
  about Arland as a town. They're very conservative people. They don't like they
• 1:26:12
  weren't a big fan of the school teaching the sex head. So I can
• 1:26:15
  sort of relate to that because that kind of stuffs universal to an extent.
• 1:26:18
  But I can understand that the Texas aspect. That's why probably wasn't very big
• 1:26:21
  in Australia because you've never Salking at the Hill on TV after like season one
• 1:26:25
  or two. I just don't think Australian's got it because it's so Texas.
• 1:26:28
  Seinfeldt Seinfeld So New York. Yeah, Like it's very very regional in terms,
• 1:26:34
  so like yeah, because I feel like that's like something that is kind
• 1:26:39
  of underrated about some parts of America, where like if you don't know about
• 1:26:43
  New York culture, maybe you just won't get Seinfeld as much. Although I
• 1:26:46
  guess Seinfeld is pretty universal in terms of the kind of plots they do,
• 1:26:49
  but sometimes the setting if you just like don't get the setting in a weird
• 1:26:54
  way, like like the show can come off as kind of weird in a
• 1:26:57
  way. I think. I think what's helped out too with streaming in particular
• 1:27:00
  is that we've been opened to so many New York based shows. Now I
• 1:27:03
  think the American culture is just like the Australian culture almost now. We've been
• 1:27:06
  so just sort of like focused on American culture for so long when it comes
• 1:27:11
  to TV that we almost understand just understand it more now. Yeah, I
• 1:27:14
  guess that would be true. Like I feel like we have just inundated you
• 1:27:17
  guys with all these random American cartoons and sitcoms and stuff that poor Australia you
• 1:27:24
  guys have to deal with our stuff all the time, like in terms of
• 1:27:26
  what we're sending over there, all your stuff and all the chuzze was is
• 1:27:29
  everything we just how do we survived? It's it's crazy. I know,
• 1:27:31
  we should send a bunch of frogs to attack the country at this point.
• 1:27:35
  So with you with your channels before the ego, just say you make a
• 1:27:38
  twenty minute video. Your latest one was how how long the Laura Powers versus
• 1:27:43
  Just Gotta Love Joy? How long was that one? About twenty minutes?
• 1:27:45
  That was like fifteen, But yeah, sometimes they're like twenty minutes for like
• 1:27:48
  a history's video, how long would it take you preparation, recording, editing,
• 1:27:54
  How long does it take you to get one of those together? Okay,
• 1:27:57
  Like in terms of the actual amount of time I'm spent, that's a
• 1:28:00
  good question, because usually when it comes to the editing part, it takes
• 1:28:05
  about an hour to edit, probably about two to three minutes, depending on
• 1:28:13
  how fast I can go, Like some some things go faster because if it's
• 1:28:16
  like just one episode I'm talking about, it's easy to scroll through the files
• 1:28:19
  when I'm doing the editing, where I could do like three minutes three minutes
• 1:28:25
  per hour. So if I'm doing like a ten minute video, that literally
• 1:28:29
  is going to take at least like eight to ten hours to edit just by
• 1:28:32
  itself, which is kind of That's why I say, like sometimes I do
• 1:28:35
  those marathon sessions on Saturdays, you know, because I just don't I just
• 1:28:40
  want to get it done, you know. And then in terms of the
• 1:28:43
  writing, the writing depends on just how like how much suffering I'm doing at
• 1:28:46
  the time, because some topics just don't come together. So that could take
• 1:28:49
  like, you know, like like three to four to five nights of just
• 1:28:55
  maybe a couple hours each so maybe like the scripting might take like another like
• 1:28:58
  eight hours, like bread over like a bunch of days maybe, and then
• 1:29:01
  and then like you know, I gotta do the voice recording and the screen
• 1:29:04
  capping and the research. One of the things I found with these videos is
• 1:29:09
  that the research time really takes a lot of time to do. Like that's
• 1:29:14
  what people appreciate about your videos is you can tell you put so much evidence
• 1:29:16
  to the research. Yeah, like Simpsons histories videos, Like I literally usually
• 1:29:20
  just go to one of the Simpsons wikis and then pull up like the list
• 1:29:24
  of appearances at the very bottom where they just list all the episodes they were
• 1:29:28
  in, and then I just find them in the episodes and like, thank
• 1:29:31
  god for the Disney Plus scroll bar because like with the little preview, because
• 1:29:34
  then it makes it really easy to like just zip zip zips, Oh there's
• 1:29:39
  Nelson, you know. But yeah, like the thing that I worry about,
• 1:29:43
  Like, I don't know if you've noticed this with YouTube, but I
• 1:29:45
  feel like there's a whole industry of YouTube videos that are just summaries of Wikipedia
• 1:29:50
  articles or wikis, you know, like where you can tell they're just telling
• 1:29:56
  you this cool story and they're just reading like the news article or the Wikipedia
• 1:30:00
  article, and I've always felt like that's really kind of like I'm not gonna
• 1:30:03
  use the word lazy, because it's like just junk food, like you just
• 1:30:06
  put on the background and that's fine, But I would hate it if someone
• 1:30:10
  accused me of just going in Nelson Months's wiki page and just summarizing that and
• 1:30:15
  not adding anything to it. So the research can be just brutal because I'm
• 1:30:18
  actually like looking at all these appearances, which can make the videos take longer
• 1:30:24
  to do, but I feel like it's worth it because sometimes you do find
• 1:30:28
  those random little patterns that you would have never noticed before that they went through,
• 1:30:32
  like a weird era of jokes with the character. So yeah, that's
• 1:30:36
  the thing I always worry about. I probably worry too much that maybe people
• 1:30:40
  wouldn't care if I just summarize things. But I feel like the research part
• 1:30:45
  is like part of the appeal of doing these videos. The hard thing,
• 1:30:48
  like you said, like with the research and things like, it's so tiring
• 1:30:50
  and it's so hard to get it all with done, especially when you got
• 1:30:53
  so much going on in your life as well as what you're doing with these
• 1:30:55
  videos. But It's like it's like a drug. It's hard to explain.
• 1:30:58
  Once you put something online. You spent like ten twelve I was working on
• 1:31:00
  these video. You put it online and it gets like one hundred thousand views
• 1:31:03
  in a few days. It's like a drug, isn't it. It's like,
• 1:31:05
  this is why I'm doing it. Yeah, it's really it's really gratifying
• 1:31:11
  that people are interested in them, because you know how it is with like
• 1:31:15
  passions that you have, where like you're like, I really like the Sibsons.
• 1:31:21
  It's a passion. You're doing a podcast about it. But you wonder
• 1:31:25
  in your head, if you start a podcast, if you start a YouTube
• 1:31:28
  video, would anyone really care enough? Like how many people out there are
• 1:31:32
  like me, who would find these things interesting or would want to listen to
• 1:31:38
  like a Matt Selman or Bill Oakley interview. And then when you find out
• 1:31:42
  that there are actually people who are interested and that they're interested in like what
• 1:31:47
  you're bringing to it, like, it's a really gratifying feeling. It does
• 1:31:53
  give you some more self confidence to do other things. To be quite odd,
• 1:31:56
  it's been a very cool experience in that way. Do you feel like
• 1:32:00
  you have a sense of community with your fans, Like you do you see
• 1:32:02
  the same people sort of commenting on your videos? Is there's just so many
• 1:32:04
  comments that it's sort of hot to tell. Oh, yeah, I definitely
• 1:32:09
  recognize people who comment a lot and screen names like usually like just the hint
• 1:32:15
  for people commenting on YouTube videos. But yeah, if you have a like
• 1:32:17
  an eye catching screen name and you like post a lot and you don't change
• 1:32:21
  your avatar, it's like a recognizable like they will notice them. So there
• 1:32:26
  is kind of a sense of community. Like I don't do formal things,
• 1:32:29
  like I don't do a discord, for example, because I just I'm not
• 1:32:32
  a big discord person anyway, and I don't have time to be in a
• 1:32:35
  discord, So I don't do like formal community things. But I definitely like
• 1:32:40
  there are people around that I know and like want a chit chat back and
• 1:32:43
  forth. Do you respond to many people on YouTube or do you feel if
• 1:32:45
  I respond to one then everyone's gonna want a response. I do comment.
• 1:32:49
  I do comments on people's replies, like like some people just blow me away
• 1:32:55
  in terms of the things they write in the replies, like just like essays
• 1:33:00
  you know in a YouTube comment, and like I'll try to make sure to
• 1:33:02
  heart them or reply and say like great job, so I do try to
• 1:33:06
  reply. It's actually something I could work on replying more, because like supposedly,
• 1:33:13
  like the YouTube algorithm and the meta, like YouTubers are supposed to engage
• 1:33:17
  with their community more. To be quite honest, like, sometimes I just
• 1:33:21
  don't comment as much as I wish just because I don't have time, like
• 1:33:25
  I just have to move on to the next project. So it's something I
• 1:33:28
  wish I could do more, to be quite honest, because I'm sure like
• 1:33:30
  some people might like I might just be like closed off to some people,
• 1:33:34
  but it's just more of a just being busy kind of thing. Yeah,
• 1:33:38
  I'm I'm the same, well, just talking about new projects there. So
• 1:33:42
  is it always just gonna be Simpsons or will there ever come a point where
• 1:33:44
  it's like it's going to test the waters of something else. It's going to
• 1:33:47
  be mostly Simpsons for now, Like, it just depends on if people would
• 1:33:51
  be interested in other things. The funny thing about doing the Simpsons channel is
• 1:33:57
  that everyone comes for the Simpsons. So whenever I do a non Simpsons video,
• 1:34:01
  like, it always does horribly in the views, Like I cannot get
• 1:34:05
  them to watch anything like non Simpsons in my life. It's horrible. Like
• 1:34:12
  like I did the Final Space review because I thought that was a really cool
• 1:34:15
  show, Like like nobody came out for that video. And then I used
• 1:34:18
  to do these, and I used to review all the Pixar movies and like
• 1:34:24
  that was really fun to do. I really enjoy doing that. Because I'm
• 1:34:26
  not a film reviewer, it was good practice. I thought to just write
• 1:34:30
  film reviews. But like I'm not saying that I do things for the views,
• 1:34:34
  because they're all just kind of passion projects and I really just want to
• 1:34:38
  do whatever I'm interested in. But like in terms of the channel, like
• 1:34:42
  the real Gyms has been more of a like a strictly like kind of Simpsons
• 1:34:46
  place with the future projects half far ahead. Do you plan It's sort of
• 1:34:49
  something you think of from the day and you just like, I'm gonna go
• 1:34:53
  stop doing this tomorrow, or do you have to plan it wakes ahead?
• 1:34:56
  It's usually just kind of one project at a time where I just whatever I
• 1:35:00
  feel like doing, I just like start working on. I only do like
• 1:35:03
  one project at a time. Usually there are some concepts where I think of
• 1:35:09
  it randomly where and then it might not like develop in. Oh goodness.
• 1:35:14
  Sometimes they just sit on the back burner for like a couple of years,
• 1:35:16
  even like like, for example, one of my most popular videos I've ever
• 1:35:21
  done is about the Simpsons house for example, and just talking about like the
• 1:35:26
  layout and how it changes, and it ended up doing like a million views,
• 1:35:30
  which was ridiculous for me. But that video. I thought of doing
• 1:35:33
  that video like two or three years before, but never actually did it because
• 1:35:38
  I thought the research, like the research of looking at the house and how
• 1:35:41
  it changes, would just been a nightmare. So I put it off for
• 1:35:44
  like two or three years, And I was like, why did I put
• 1:35:45
  this off for so long when everybody wanted this so so some concepts I do
• 1:35:49
  think of and it just sits in the hopper forever because I can't figure out
• 1:35:53
  how to do it. Have you even thought of an idea? It started
• 1:35:56
  working on it and just gone, this just isn't going anyway, and just
• 1:35:59
  acted it. Yeah, very rarely, sometimes I just completely get rid of
• 1:36:03
  a project if it's not coming together. There was a sensus histories where I
• 1:36:08
  started doing the research and just decided I wasn't in the mood for the character
• 1:36:12
  and switched to somebody else I can't remember. No, not least she's gonna
• 1:36:17
  get she needs she needs a video soon because I've done so much Bart coverage
• 1:36:21
  lately, but I can't remember who it was. Like, I think I
• 1:36:25
  switched to Sideshow Mel and became more interested for some reason. But yeah,
• 1:36:29
  there's a couple of other concepts where I just started doing it. I even
• 1:36:31
  got to the record and I was like, this is not coming together,
• 1:36:34
  and I just completely got rid of it before we go. Is there any
• 1:36:39
  chance of a hint at what we could be expecting in the coming weeks?
• 1:36:41
  Do you have any ideas you're working on at the moment. Well, I'm
• 1:36:45
  not sure when this is going to come out, but I am currently trying
• 1:36:47
  really hard to get together a video about Bart's romances and his eating situation.
• 1:36:56
  Yeah, because I just did Bart's girlfriend and Nukee on the Block and for
• 1:37:00
  talking about it, and I realized that Bart's like dating situation is really messed
• 1:37:05
  up and like it's weird, So I kind of just want to talk about
• 1:37:09
  that. Like, I don't know how the products project's gonna come together.
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  I think I wanted to call it like Bart fumbles the bag, So we'll
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  see, we'll see if we'll see if that's what it's called or if it
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  goes in a different direction. But then also I got to get a season
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  sixteen retrospective going, so you should see season sixteen coming up over the next
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  month. Like I got to do the whole rewatch and note taking sessions.
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  I haven't putting off literally watch every episode in full when you do those things,
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  Oh yeah, I watch every episode in full. I take notes like
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  try to find like the trends, you know. I also have to do
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  screencapping, which is why I watched them. But yeah, the like the
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  watching process takes forever, like I can only watch like maybe four episodes a
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  night, you know. So yeah, I really got to ramp up season
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  sixteen so that that's coming up soon. Do you use sprinkiche videos or do
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  use screencap every time? Oh? I just do manual screen outside. Like
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  I don't know how many how many screen caps of every episode are there,
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  because like I want to be like really thorough. It's like it's like every
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  millisecond, every millisecond. Maybe I should look. I don't know if I
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  can like download like whole batches of files I wonder maybe I'm not sure.
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  The thing is with Frank Yak is that they're not very good quality, so
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  I'm not too sure whether they'd be worth you because screen caps would better.
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  But anyway, thank you so much, mister real Jims for joining me today.
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  It's been absolute pledged o. We'll be one to do this for so
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  long and um, yeah, it's just been great hearing how the process of
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  talk behind your videos. It's fantastic. Thanks for reaching out to me.
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  I had a lot of fun talking about the channel and issue and Scratchy and
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  Pucci show, and yeah, it was awesome. That's really nice to I'm
• 1:38:44
  really glad that you enjoy the videos so much. That is awesome to hear.
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  What's great about it is I love the fact that you just you,
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  just like me. You're just a Simpsons fan making Simpsons content for other Simpsons
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  fans, and that's what it's all about. Yeah. The Simpsons fandom community
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  is just really amazing, Like it's in such a great place, Like we
• 1:39:00
  just talked about episode about like toxicity and fandom and it's just a wonderful group
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  of fans. So I'm really blessed to be in the Simpson like fandom.
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  Well, thank you once again Misterville James and all the best with the rest
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  of the year. Thanks, I really appreciate it.