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Cool Black Guys Are Starting To Call Out Asmongold | Aba N Preach v Woke Derangement Syndrome · Papa Gut

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Probably just going to be some silly slop, but it's called the
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Woke Derangement Syndrome. It's from ABN preaches about
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asthma golds. I mean, that's right up our
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Ever since you know, the Odyssey came out with, there's been a
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lot of talk about it and before. You know, I said this before.
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I didn't see The Odyssey, but I had a cousin message me about
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it. He's a big movie buff and he
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asked me about it and I kind of just, I kind of just, I see he's
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like, have you seen it? And I said I saw the wrong 1 and
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I sent them a three hour long porn parody and he never
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responded to me. So sometimes it is what it is.
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Or it even came out people were losing their minds about the
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film. But I thought it'd be fun today
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to look at some of the response. Because if you're not aware the
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Odyssey's destroying at the box office, it is surpassing.
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Damn. Good for them the.
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Dark Knight made in the. Movie and beat the movie Moana,
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guys. That's how you know it's good.
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Movies, I think it's well over like 300 million in two weeks
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and I think internationally it's the closer like 600.
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So it's already passed its budget, it's doing fantastic and
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it's looking like it's going to hit some major marks.
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OK, which for a movie with the themes that are involved called
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not always what you would expect, but that's the success
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level. Prior to the movie coming out, a
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lot of folks had so much to say. It was a basically a giant
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culture war point where people are basically like, oh, there's
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going to be a flop. It's got a trans woman.
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Well, that's how the whole thing works.
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And it doesn't have a trans woman.
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There's a trans man in it. What is my wife sending me?
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Sorry. That's fine.
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OK Sir, unless there's another trans person in there I don't
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know about. And then or trans man Nelliot
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pigs. It's got a it's got a black
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woman who's held in Troy, A lot of people are saying.
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Luck. I'm just kidding.
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Well, that's the thing. That's the how the market works.
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This is how everything works. Is that like if you're
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conservative, you're just expected to, or like one of
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these culture weirdos, you just expect to be like, oh, it's
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going to be bad. It's got woke stuff in it.
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It's going to ruin it. And then like, you don't really
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watch it or care about it, and that's it.
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That's the level of intelligence you engage with, you know?
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You guys can see here on the screen 9 days ago.
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The Odyssey just broke the Internet.
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Everyone's lying about this movie.
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You know, Asthma Gold had a lot of negative videos to make about
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the film before it ever for months.
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Hollywood never learns. Hollywood is panicking.
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This is again before anyone's ever seen.
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The Odyssey's fucked. The whole Internet rejected it.
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That's crazy. And they got the AI.
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Well, that's like a three. That's like a 3 minute little
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clip that he's just like he's, he's just pumping out.
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He's just farming bullshit, you know?
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And all that good stuff. If the movie had released in its
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original state, then I think that it would have not been
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successful. No one names might save it.
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They'll never stop and blame us and keep going on to the next
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one. Well, eventually companies are
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going to stop paying for it. I think that if the well.
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No, they're not. If they're making money on it,
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why would they stop paying for it?
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He's just this is what it is though.
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It's just like the asthma gold technique.
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It's just like sounded reasonable, but it's not
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reasonable. They've been saying like a woke
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like a woke is broke for how long?
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And everything just keeps making money that's woke all the time.
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That's all it comes down to. And in between doing that
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though, he like downplays rape. Like he's a big fan of rape tone
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and fucking Trump and doesn't give a fuck that Trump won't
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release the Epstein files. He doesn't understand it either.
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He's like, I don't understand why he won't release it.
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Oh, wow, that's incredible. So it's just very interesting
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that the what they focus on the what they think is good versus
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what they think is bad. Odyssey fails.
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It will be such a bad like kind of a like blow to like that
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whole ideology that we might. Ideology.
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You. See a lot of it just totally go
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away. 265,000 dislikes insane timeline where a Christopher
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Nolan movie about a grizzled white dudes and beautiful women
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is too woke to watch. Paul is intentionally
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misunderstanding as always. Right?
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Everybody knows why they cast a black woman as Helena Troy.
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Everybody knows why you have Elliot Page that's being cast in
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this movie as like a Greek. He doesn't know why.
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Warrior or something like that. This is they're in the movie for
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like 7 minutes. He doesn't understand though.
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He says everybody knows, but he doesn't know why.
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Just simply not something people are interested in because they
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realize that it's being done for a political reason.
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So just to be absolutely clear, the asthma gold says a lot of
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these things because he likes to think that he's like, has common
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sense and goes, everybody knows what they cast at these people.
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Yeah, because you'll complain about it.
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That's the real reason why. And they're good actors and
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actresses and acting individuals, whatever the fuck
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they want to be called. I don't know, They're good at
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their job, they're good at acting.
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And you know what? They're going to get fucking
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morons with anti opinions to just complain about it because I
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don't want to give it a chance. That aren't ever going to watch
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the movie. That's why they do it, duh.
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Like why the fuck else would they do it?
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They're doing it because they're going to get free publicity from
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people who who are literal fucking Internet clowns.
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That's the whole point. That's it.
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But he doesn't understand that Asma Gold thinks that he has
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like he really understand, but he doesn't.
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He doesn't realize he's being used as a pawn.
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Every video that he makes about how this game is going to be
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fucking gay and cringe or this movie, those things always do
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well. And part of it is because Asma
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Gold people like he's giving it free publicity.
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He doesn't understand that. He never understands.
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Like anything, he's just, he's just another fucking.
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He's another sheep in the opposite direction.
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He doesn't have his own opinions, he has the anti
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opinion. That doesn't make you fucking
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based, it makes you dumb as hell.
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Believe it or not, outside of a lot of these echo chambers and
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these places online, a lot of people live in rife and don't
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think about gender and and transness and blackness and
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whiteness when they go to every piece of media when they're
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watching. I know that's surprising because
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for some people it's very dear and close to them and and you
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know, they're they fight some people.
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Most people don't care. That's majority like the normies
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who I've talked to talk to me about the film.
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I've not mentioned any of these points, so I just thought worth
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mentioning. I think they don't care.
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They don't care. If you go outside and touch
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grass. Yes, people don't care.
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Going back to the parliament, looking at OK, what, what fuels
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all this? What what's sort of there behind
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it? The golden rule, the idea that,
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you know, treat others as you would be treated.
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The glue that. That's so beautiful, I love
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that. That binds society together.
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The more I thought about it, the more that became important, as
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society can only function with respect for strangers.
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It's a sure point of connection with this text of 3000 years
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ago. It's.
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Crazy that you can say that about the Odyssey when
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everything in the Odyssey is the exact opposite of them.
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They're literally sailing across the fucking ocean to steal a
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bitch back. They raid a city, kill everybody
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in the fucking city, and then they go back home.
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And then obviously Odysseus is an asshole.
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So Poseidon's like, well, you're not going to go back home
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because you're a fucking asshole.
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They sail away and and then you've got the hose trying to
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fucking get you to crash your ship.
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By hose, he's referring to the sirens.
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Just wanted to, you know, give you what?
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Do you think the Sirens were like, you know what I mean?
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Like all these mythological creatures are created off of
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like something that you're seeing.
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Like I heard that Asian people thought they were fishermen
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because they saw like Catholic priests with their hats on and
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they thought it was weird. You think it's just like
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manatees or dolphins and they dudes are just super fucking
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horny. And they're like, that's a
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that's a fucking mermaid, you know, I wonder what it is.
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I don't know. I have no idea what the
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Odyssey's about, frankly, So I couldn't even tell you if that's
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accurate, but I'm going to I would bet on it's not being
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accurate, to be honest with you. I'm going to keep it a stack
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with you. The.
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Hood Translation. One hoe that's there that keeps.
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Trying right from the trailer park.
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An epic hood classic. Brainwash.
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Odysseus doesn't know what the fuck's going on.
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And then he gets back to his own house.
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There's a bunch of fucking foreigners there.
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Then he got back to his own house and he found out his wife
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Penelope was running the only Fans and was in the middle of a
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gangbang with all the suitors and he said and.
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He's like this is the right person I dated because Asma Gold
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is dating an only fans girl so. No bun that.
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Then he killed her on some red pill shit.
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Hospitality. He killed her on some red pill
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shit. That's fucking preposterous
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today. It's like the last value in the
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Odyssey. OK so I can't tell you guys how
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wrong that is. Even if you go read the original
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works. Hospitality is incredibly
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important. Throughout the Odyssey they
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mention it. Basically the whole idea was
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like, you don't know if it's a God in disguise, so you're
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better off just being kind to folks.
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And it's also a matter of survival, like I said.
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That's interesting. What an interesting way to,
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because I'm assuming they had similar problems of like
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different types of like racism, just with different races, you
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know what I mean? Like a bunch of different white
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groups that are like, hey, you're not really us, you know?
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But that's an interesting way to communicate that in like a very
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deep society where God's kind of like roam the earth, or at least
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in the mythology that they do, to be like, you never know who's
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a God, so you should just be nice to everybody.
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That's an interesting way to push kindness for people who are
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just completely like religiously captured that they can't like
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have like a shred of, they can't think with like a shred of like
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empathy without having to feel like they'll be punished if they
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do something wrong. I just find that very
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interesting last time. You live on a bunch of islands.
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There's no refrigerators, there's no Amazon, there's no
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fast food joints. OK, You guys put yourselves in
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the actual place where you're at sea for dozens of days and you
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need to be able to survive. You have to stop by places and
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people are basically hospitable. They offer you what you need to
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make sure you're able to go in your voyage.
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That was a matter of survival, but that was also in the
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original retelling. So when I hear this guy Yap, and
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he's got all this energy for this film and it's like it's so
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clear he's not familiar with the material.
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That's what I know. It's like very much as identity
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politics at the forefront of this.
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People are told they have to hate certain aspects, and so
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they'll justify and they'll claim that they care deeply.
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They can't. But you don't know the original
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story. You don't ever really care.
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This is just a political. Point.
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That's what bothers you that he has so much energy for?
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To criticize this movie but not the cleanest fucking toilet.
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I guess you can criticize both of those things.
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It's unfortunate though, because it's not going to really matter.
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I mean Asman Gold's audience, this is the the one of the
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reasons why it's so easy to be a right wing zealot, I guess you
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could say, is because nobody actually cares if you're
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factually correct because everybody who engages in Asman
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Gold's audience is completely emotionally driven.
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Right? Like he can completely get
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everything wrong about the Odyssey, the original 1, the
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current one and whatever. It doesn't matter because people
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hate it because a person in there is trans and black.
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That's it. That's the only reason they
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hate. So you could say whatever you
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want as long as it's an anti opinion and it's not even like a
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unique opinion. He's just a sheep in the
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opposite direction. But as long as it's an anti
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opinion, he could say it, he could be wrong and people will
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just won't care. They'll still be his, you know,
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in his audience because they don't value intelligence or
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correctness. They don't care about that.
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They just care about like, oh, this makes me feel good to be
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hateful mostly to somebody that I think is different.
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And these are the same people. These are the exact same people
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who are not like usually accepted in society, right?
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Like they're usually they, I mean, Anacol's the guy who's so
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disgusting that like his current only fans girlfriend made him
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feel bad because he had shit all over his toilet.
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And so you'd think, I don't know, I guess maybe that's why
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they're so upset because they're not, they're rejected by society
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and can't get a date. So they're just like hateful the
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world. They're like, I'm going to do
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what you I'm going to make you feel the way you make me feel.
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But it's all feelings based. So none of it really matters.
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They don't. They don't really care.
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I was going to go peer, yeah. What happened?
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To your toilet what? What there's like?
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The biggest dookie? Things.
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No, there's. Not dookie things.
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Damn. OK, yeah, I think that's worse.
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I I'd rather someone doesn't clean their toilet than do this
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shit. Go read the originals.
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It's 100 some of the central themes.
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Well, one of his biggest things is he doesn't read, so I don't
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think he's going to be doing that anytime soon.
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His version of how he tells the story is very fascinating,
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actually, because I think it's yes, it is.
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Like at a certain point you have to stop coping.
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OK, well let me read some. There's such an irony of that.
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To the comments, the face that emptied 1000 seats all.
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Right. Well, listen, like I said,
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selling out multiple weekends, doing great.
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It's the highest grossing film, or at least one of them this
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year. The Birdman is saying the
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Odyssey trailer dislikes or boded.
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Or fake. You guys know I've been saying.
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The the Birdman is correct, they are all boded and fake.
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Yes, of course all the Odyssey dislikes are botted and fake for
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forever that these are. Not showing you the actual fact
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it's a projection, yeah. It's not a project.
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I need you to understand that like 100% of the Odyssey
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dislikes are botted and fake. I'm going to explain to you why.
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OK, first of all, if you're a conservative, you're a fucking
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bot. You don't think for yourself.
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You belong to the party of anti intellectualism.
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I don't know what else to tell you or excuse me, I should say
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if you're MAGA, if you're an asthma gold audience member,
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you're not thinking for yourself.
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And asthma gold doesn't think for himself.
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He doesn't have any unique opinions.
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He has an anti opinion. OK, you guys are botting
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everything. You guys are the ones falling
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for like dead Internet theory you like.
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You are the people that are on Facebook interacting with memes
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of like Obama fucking taking a gun and shooting little children
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and be like, I knew he was evil. I knew it was like you guys fall
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for it. You guys are all bots and you
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guys complain and then you're just like, oh, it's mass fucking
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bot this. Or you know, that's all it is.
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It's all culture war war bullshit.
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Everything is fake. Even Elon Musk.
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He intentionally increased the the amount of traffic that his
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posts get because Joe Biden I think said like happy 4th of
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July 1 year and Elon Musk is so offended.
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He made sure to change the algorithm so that he gets
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prioritized. I'm not kidding I didn't.
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I got more views when he said happy like 4th of July or some
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shit than Elon. So Elon had a fucking meltdown
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and change the algorithm. Everything that you believe is
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fake, it's a fake anti opinion and you only feel that way
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because you were taught that everything that you want to
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engage with should be feelings based because that's how you
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were, that's how you were raced. That's what your faith means to
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you. I believe something because it
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because it feels nice to believe it, not because it's factually
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correct. So.
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Like, oh, it's not being disliked 5 to 1, it's being
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disliked 3 to 1. Maybe it's coping.
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Maybe the dislikes are not 5 to 1.
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Maybe they're 3 to 1. Sure, What does it matter?
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You know, we've come to the point where we think genuinely,
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if a trailer comes out and it's got massive dislikes, it means
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the movie's going to flop. And the reason why I wanted to
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even talk about this is, like I mentioned the last time, I do
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feel like some of the marketing on this may be intensely
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purposeful. You know, maybe all the hate
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trains that people. 1000%. Will launch don't actually have
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a negative but a positive effect Because I know I heard about the
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film because of the hate train that came along with true you
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know that has been gold types and everyone hating on the film.
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I think y'all might all be being manipulated into into
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advertising the movie indirectly I think.
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Probably thank. You, I think, yeah.
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What I know about marketing, there's rarely a case of.
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Oops. We kind of didn't do it on
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purpose. That's that's not what
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marketing. Is there's a lot of.
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Intention. There's a lot of intention.
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They know what they're doing. Even even the outrage.
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Outrage. Yeah, at this point it's all
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outrage roaming and as Nicole's falling for it over and over
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again. You talk about it.
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And there's an irony there because asthma gold is part of
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the outrage farming. Like, he's not a content creator
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that sits down and has meaningful conversations about
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anything. He's literally just part of the
15:25
outrage farming. That is what all of his short
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form content is about. It's about outrage farming as
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much as humanly fucking possible for him.
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People are going to get curious, why are you so pissed off about
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it? So I think yes, they are being
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signed up into talking shit about it and it's working
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wonderfully for that movie. That movie is making bank.
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It's making money. That's it.
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True that, very true. Honestly thank you for the $5
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from true scheme. Batman technically be Wonder
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Woman in a fight using the hospitality once.
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Wow I didn't is that true? Is that even true?
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What the fuck it was even mean? What did Wonder Woman or did did
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Batman beat Wonder Woman with Haas?
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What does that mean? I don't know what that means.
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Let's say, if I grant you, there's very little to no bots,
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you know, which I don't believe because I think we've all seen,
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remember with the whole Twitter update and then they started
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showing the locations of a lot of popular hateful accounts.
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And then we found out it's like in India, they're pretending to
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be like these white women in like South of the States.
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Yeah, there's definitely bot farms and things involved in
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these. But let's say it's all real.
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What does it matter if it doesn't translate to how the
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overall movie sells? If the movie's going to be
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critically acclaimed and also loved by grand majority of the
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audience, what does it really matter?
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I think it's fine to look at this and say what is accurate.
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The movie's controversial to some degree.
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That's some of the casting choices.
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Not everyone's on board. I think that's generally true,
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but does that mean that's? Good, but the good thing is it's
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like the the what it seems like with the Odyssey is that they
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did like do some controversial picks on purpose like Elliot
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Page. But like Elliot Page is a good
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actor so it doesn't matter. At least it's not like adding
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wokeness as a virtue signal. They added wokeness and they
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seem to have made a good product.
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Makes it $2.00 for me. It was known as a Xena.
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What? I don't know what the hell I'm
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so confused dude. I'm so confused.
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I don't understand what that means.
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I'm fucking confused as hell, I'm so sorry.
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Can it translate to a flop? Clearly not, and I think it's OK
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to look at that and be honest about that.
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Look how many people hate it. Look how many people like it.
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True. If it's 1/3 of the people
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dislike it and 2/3 of the people like it, but the two third of
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the people liking it equals to billions of people, who gives a
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fuck? They sold to a billion people.
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No no no. They sold to 3 billion people.
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1/3 of that didn't like it. You think they, they, they, you
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think they're going to view this as a flop.
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It's true. I mean, that's basically asthma
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gold, right? Like a lot of people dislike
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asthma gold, but there's enough people to keep him like going
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with his audience. So he should understand this
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like fundamental thing, a flop. But he likes to play on this
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like populist idea, like, oh, nobody likes it, nobody cares.
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It's so bad that everybody knows this, you know this, I know
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this, but it's like, but you don't.
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He's just saying things. According to me is when you
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spend so much money into doing something and to making
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something and you're not able to recuperate your money.
18:29
If you sell to 3 billion people something and 1 billion didn't
18:33
like it, I'm looking back in my pockets in my bank account and
18:37
ain't then flopping. And they're going to move the
18:39
goal posts first. There's going to be a flop.
18:41
Now, it's not as successful as it is not as successful as that.
18:43
It's like, gosh, OK, you guys saw this whole idea that because
18:47
your community or a grand majority of the people on your
18:50
part of the web hated it, it was going to flop.
18:52
And now that's not the case. You have to make a new goalpost
18:54
people dislike in the movie. It's fine.
18:55
There's nothing wrong with the game.
18:56
Well, that's true because a lot of times this is, it's the new
18:59
thing. There were times where something
19:02
would would get released and it was like a little too woke,
19:04
we'll say, and it didn't do well.
19:06
And so like the right wingers thinking like asthma golds, the
19:08
anti culture people, they would just be like, Oh my God, it's
19:11
going to do so bad, blah, blah. And they were predicting
19:12
correctly, obviously, but now they're starting to do better
19:16
because people are like these different industries are getting
19:19
better at making the game have inclusion and maybe like some
19:21
force wokeness, but also actually good, which is the
19:25
number one most important aspect of it.
19:29
And so now a lot of times, even with like out of war, like
19:32
Laufey, asthma gold was like it was a la Faye.
19:34
I don't care. Asthma gold was like, yeah,
19:36
it'll probably do well. Just so it would do better if
19:38
you had a huge test like Stellar Blade.
19:41
But it's like, yeah, Stellar Blade's a bad game.
19:42
So I don't and I will live and die on this.
19:45
OK, Asthma gold fans. Stellar Blade is not a good
19:47
game. It's never played.
19:49
It's it's I've played it. It is painfully fucking boring.
19:53
It looks really nice outside of all the tits too.
19:56
Like the tits are nice, but it looks really nice.
19:58
But it's so fucking boring, bro. Like every, every fight feels
20:02
the same. They look different.
20:04
It's visually stunning, but it looks the fucking same.
20:07
It's so boring. To be honest with you.
20:08
I fought. What is that like the hardest
20:10
boss in the game? I forget what her name is, She's
20:12
like a skill check. It was so boring.
20:16
The games I got at war, I've lost fights a bunch of times and
20:19
I'm having so much fun. I wanna keep going.
20:21
That game was so fucking boring. It feels really sticky, like I
20:24
came all over the controller or something.
20:25
It feels slow. It's fucking boring.
20:28
I don't care about the story. It's fucking boring dude.
20:31
And they compare like they compare God of War to some
20:35
fucking like it's just a simp slop game.
20:38
You enjoy it. I think that's great.
20:39
I could see why people would enjoy it.
20:40
It's fucking boring from a technical standpoint.
20:43
It will never be anywhere close to God of War.
20:45
It never could be. And so be like we do more games
20:48
like Stellar Blade. Stellar Blade was like a
20:49
mediocre at best. And to sit here and be like, Oh
20:52
my God, we need like, oh, I just had tits in it.
20:54
That game did so well. That game was fucking boring.
20:56
I'm sorry, sorry, Somebody made a good a video on the the game.
21:01
I'd like it. Maybe, maybe they maybe I would.
21:03
I don't know who Sean is, but you know, maybe I'll take a look
21:05
at that. The question is like all these
21:08
trains that unfold and the people were declaring it a
21:10
failure. Like every fucking ability in
21:12
seller blade feels like it functionally does the exact same
21:15
fucking thing. It's like you Max out like one
21:19
of them and it's like, oh, everything's good, that's it.
21:22
It's annoying as shit, dude. There's also, in my opinion, too
21:24
many systems. That's typical for Asian games.
21:26
Kind of fucking annoying too, but whatever.
21:28
Yeah, before they even watched it.
21:30
People were declaring going to failure six months ago before a
21:32
trailer ever came out, when they saw the casting list.
21:35
Like, everyone's very reactionary with a lot of this
21:37
stuff. I appreciate the fact that
21:39
people who actually went to watch it and then made their
21:41
reviews or made their opinions, but for the people who did it,
21:44
it's OK too. You don't have to pay money to
21:45
watch a Nolan film or watch this film specifically.
21:48
Look at me, I'm the Helen. Now that's a.
21:50
Good one. Yeah, yeah.
21:52
Oh, I get it. Like the like the like the
21:55
Somali thing with Tom Hanks. He's doing a little racism Bass.
22:02
Rotten Tomatoes says the Odyssey is a 97% score.
22:04
The raw Jason data proves that it's actually 56%.
22:08
Out of the 886 active Rotten Tomatoes users who at the time
22:12
of this writing, navigated to the site on their own to write
22:14
the Odyssey, 56% rated it positively.
22:17
The current generated 97% score displayed so prominently is
22:22
simply an artifact that a push notification pipeline heavily
22:25
biased towards opening weekend ticket buyers.
22:28
OK, I read that. I thought that was interesting.
22:29
I'm like, wait, are they presenting to the public numbers
22:32
that are completely made-up and fake?
22:34
What they're talking about is that on Ron Tomatoes got very
22:36
good reviews. It's got good reviews from the
22:38
critics and it's got very good reviews from the public, Right?
22:40
I think so. Like something above 90%.
22:42
So he's saying that the raw data shows a drastically different
22:45
score, which is closer to 50%. Now what is the difference
22:47
between those two scores and why there's different?
22:49
Is it just them lying about the numbers?
22:50
No, what they do is that in order to avoid people who are
22:54
just leaving reviews, I haven't watched the film or.
22:57
Oh yeah, this makes like Asma Gold fans.
22:58
If they have no way of really verifying it, what they're going
23:00
to highlight or what they're going to prioritize are people
23:03
who have confirmed to have bought a ticket and seen the
23:05
film, and those reviews automatically get verified.
23:08
OK, that makes sense. This way, Asma Gold fans don't.
23:12
This way as we go, fans don't fucking brutalize it.
23:15
That's the whole point. Yeah, that makes perfect sense,
23:18
Yeah. I agree with this notion mostly
23:20
because there have been instances of people launching
23:22
these campaigns where they're like, go mass review it guys and
23:25
people who've never seen the film as part of like some kind
23:27
of social media campaign are. But in the sweeping of that, you
23:30
often get people who have seen the film who may have a good or
23:33
a bad review, but because they don't confirm that they've
23:35
actually watched the film, that's the issue.
23:37
So when they're talking about push versus pool, the push
23:40
aspect is that some people have apps where they confirm on a
23:43
specific thing that they bought a ticket and they leave a review
23:46
on like a sister website or something similar.
23:48
And that links often to Run Tomatoes.
23:50
So people who went to go watch the film and had this set up,
23:53
their reviews were automatically filtered in.
23:55
Now you can say there's a selection bias there.
23:57
This probably is because if people who are more likely to do
23:59
this whole intricate process are probably people who are more
24:02
likely to like leave these kinds of reviews or more concerned or
24:05
interested in movies. You can find a lot of different
24:07
reasons why there might be a filtering numbers.
24:09
I feel like what's, what's the bias going to be?
24:11
The people, I guess I understand what they're saying.
24:14
Like some people are just not going to go about their day to
24:17
put in so much effort even if you've actually seen the movie
24:19
because you don't care enough, because you don't care if you're
24:21
opinion scene. But I don't see why that would
24:23
skew towards people who would like the movie more.
24:26
If you really didn't like it, I feel like you'd still go for it.
24:29
It just might be more movie buffs.
24:30
It wouldn't be terminally online people who don't actually give a
24:33
shit about these things. So I don't really see what the
24:36
issue is. But folks, just looking at raw
24:38
data of people leaving reviews anywhere on the Internet without
24:42
even confirming whether or not they've watched the film isn't a
24:44
good way to judge whether or not the public likes it.
24:46
The timing where the public likes a film they've never
24:48
watched makes no sense. I want to see reviews of people
24:51
actually watch the film personally.
24:53
Now still find to criticize the fact that this audience review
24:56
is only based off verified users, but that's very different
24:59
than saying Rotten Tomatoes are lying about the numbers.
25:01
Does that make sense? It does, but they don't want to
25:04
hear it. They don't care.
25:06
I thought he said he didn't want to hear it.
25:07
I was like what the fuck? He wants to hate the movie.
25:10
True, he does, of course, 'cause it's like.
25:12
A political to hate the movie. Yeah, fuck that movie.
25:15
She seems to feel bad about being a warrior and we never
25:18
actually get to see him doing much warrioring, which I thought
25:21
in a way was a bit of a shame. And I think that's one of the
25:23
big challenges for Nolan so. If you don't know who this is,
25:25
she's the one who wrote the 2017 version of the Odyssey, and when
25:28
she wrote that, Nolan used some inspiration from her book.
25:31
Though he took from other places.
25:33
She's actually not a fan of the. Film.
25:34
Did she watch it? I imagine she did.
25:39
No, but she did review it unverified.
25:41
Has to make the protagonist A likable all American hero,
25:45
basing this on a poem where the hero was not necessarily
25:49
motivated motivated by being a nice suburban parent, but
25:52
actually by he wants glory and he wants to get spoils from the
25:56
sack of a city so. Even she's criticizing it.
25:59
That's funny. He's so stupid.
26:05
It's so weird because her criticism seemed to be there
26:07
wasn't really enough action. Had nothing to do with the
26:10
actors though. Like even if I don't know what
26:12
the fuck they're I don't I don't care.
26:14
Like I haven't seen it yet so I don't really know the criticism,
26:16
but it sounds like their criticism has nothing to do with
26:18
the fact that there were too many black and trans people in
26:20
the fucking movie. Even she's criticism.
26:22
Not for the same thing dude. Not for the same fucking thing.
26:26
What are you talking about? What the fuck?
26:28
I like how, like, criticizes film as like some degree of like
26:30
feminist slop, and then when like, a feminist, I guess writer
26:34
disagrees with the film to some degrees.
26:35
Like, isn't that crazy that people have similar ideologies
26:40
and they disagree? Isn't that funny?
26:42
I was like, yeah, it's healthy. That's healthy.
26:44
It's good that they disagreed on the vision of it because it
26:47
shows that Nolan didn't use her adaptation as like a 100% thing,
26:50
that he just used parts of it as inspiration.
26:52
No, you're supposed to be with the team, bro, you see, Not
26:55
riding, you're not dying. Greek mythology is interesting
26:57
because it's so present in a lot of our media, whether it's like
27:01
the Disney stuff that we saw or some of the shit.
27:03
Dude, I love that. I love Hercules.
27:04
Disney movie, dude. Shows like Hercules and Xena or.
27:08
And Kevin Sorbo's a weird MAGA freak now.
27:11
I love Xena though. I thought that was great.
27:12
My mom used to watch it all the time.
27:13
I loved that shit. So I, like strong women did.
27:16
Some of the video games like. And lesbians.
27:19
God of War. Oh yeah, he just sat it all but.
27:22
Hercules and Xena was horrible. It was.
27:25
A they were have you guys that. Was.
27:28
Great, just stopped. I don't don't fucking stop it.
27:31
It probably wasn't great, but it doesn't matter.
27:33
We're all nostalgia farming, OK? I'm sorry.
27:35
No, he caught it. He caught it.
27:36
He got it. He got it.
27:38
Kevin Sorbo was an amazing actor.
27:40
Yeah. Yeah, it was so good though to
27:43
be. That's fucking crazy.
27:44
Thank you for the $5 from Chaotic Pisces.
27:46
Hey Papa Gut, love your videos. Did you watch the Professor Dave
27:49
video on Destiny Greetings? Was one I didn't.
27:52
It's really long I think, and I'm not like that.
27:53
Interested in Destiny slop. Personally, that's pretty much
28:03
my biggest reason. Like I'm really not trying to do
28:05
like a whole destiny video. I I don't know.
28:07
It's also long as fuck. Like it probably would be good
28:10
and good for the channel and I don't know though, dude, like do
28:14
I really want to do a whole like Destiny loves genocide.
28:17
Hey, everyone, an hour and a half long, you know what I mean?
28:19
Like it's a lot of commitment for something that like I'm not
28:22
really that it's Israel Palestine again, it's destiny
28:25
again. I really don't want to talk
28:26
about destiny. I it's it's not really, it's not
28:35
necessarily like a super interesting topic for me to
28:37
cover, you know what I mean? Yeah.
28:40
I, I don't really care for it, you know, not really my vibe
28:44
right now, but I do appreciate you bringing it to my attention.
28:47
Yeah. No, no thank you though to.
28:49
Be honest with you, Elliott Page was great in the film, wasn't
28:52
amazing in terms of acting, but you know, did fine, had a good
28:56
part, did really good as one of the soldiers and.
28:59
Whoa, super fucking woke. What is it?
29:03
Woker and Preach? Am I right guys?
29:06
In their mind was really overblowing it.
29:07
They didn't portray Elliott Page as his super masculine, just a
29:12
brave soldier who died basically.
29:15
What the hell? I didn't know they died.
29:19
What the fuck? What the hell, dude?
29:21
I'm still a lie. The whole fucking movies ruined.
29:25
That there was nothing in there that's like they're pretending
29:28
it's a strong man. Nothing like that.
29:30
So I don't know some of the outrage.
29:31
I get it, but I'm. Not I don't really get it, it's
29:34
all cultural bullshit, but thanks for $5 for trucing me
29:37
about basically Batman performing a ritual of
29:38
hospitality and protection in front of her that she couldn't
29:41
refuse without the fight. Oh that's very strange but also
29:44
interesting. OK, what the fuck?
29:46
Honestly think people are too cooked by identity politics and
29:48
they've let it consume their brains.
29:50
But at the end it doesn't matter what I or anyone else thinks.
29:52
The movies selling amazingly well.
29:55
The whole cancel culture thing that was supposed to happen
29:58
never happened or materialized. And I would argue this is like
30:01
the point I wanted to end on the most was just like, yeah, I'm
30:05
only here or watching this film. I haven't watched it because,
30:08
you know, people are fake outraged about the film and it
30:11
turned out to be a really great piece of medium.
30:13
I have talked. Really great piece of poop.
30:14
A lot of people, a lot of folks have different opinions and I
30:16
respect a lot of the difference. I don't respect them.
30:18
For folks who watched them elucidate why they hated the
30:21
film or didn't like certain aspects.
30:23
But the online chatter, a lot of it's just nonsense.
30:26
These people, they want to hate something.
30:28
That's true. Yeah, that's fucking exhausting.
30:31
And they won't let it go. They make it a identity.
30:35
That's my identity. I have to hate this piece of our
30:40
of work. No, I think it's important.
30:42
Are you cool? I think it's important because I
30:45
think we've gone past the whole phase of like, you know, cancel
30:47
culture being effective or where you're aware of it.
30:49
But some people still think that shit's real.
30:51
I'm like, no, you're just too online brained.
30:53
Yanigas need to get off. Cancel culture can be real.
30:56
I mean, you know, it is sometimes.
31:00
I guess it all depends. It just depends on what it is
31:05
now. I mean if you say the N word to
31:06
kids now you could just get like $1,000,000.
31:09
It's crazy the Internet and go in real life because
31:11
motherfuckers don't care about your culture war.
31:13
True. All right, that was an
31:15
interesting watch.