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  Speaker 1: Here's Nick Eatman, what's up? Welcome to Cowboys storyline presented
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  Speaker 1: by Gellette, Monday, December twenty ninth. Hope everyone had a
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  Speaker 1: merry Christmas. And we'll wrap up this twenty twenty five season,
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  Speaker 1: twenty five calendar year. We'll do it all this week.
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  Speaker 1: Should have that could be a full week of shows.
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  Speaker 1: I think we got only three three shows and then
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  Speaker 1: we'll we'll wrap it up for the week. So we've
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  Speaker 1: got to cram a lot of things in here. Here
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about the Washington game, Giants game, and then
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  Speaker 1: everything else in between. At least the Cowboy went up
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  Speaker 1: to Washington and got to win. Looked like it was
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  Speaker 1: going to be a pretty easy win. Then the defense said, well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, watch this, let's do what we do. The offense,
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  Speaker 1: you know, made some plays with a lot of fourth downs,
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  Speaker 1: fourth and fourth down six times. I think that's set.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely said a Cowboys record, and it said an NFL
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  Speaker 1: record back to like nineteen ninety whenever they started tracking that,
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  Speaker 1: but really just showed the trust that the Cowboys have
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  Speaker 1: in their offense, maybe lack of trust that they have
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  Speaker 1: in their defense. Themes continued into Washington and Christmas Day.
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  Speaker 1: But at least if we're there and we woke up
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  Speaker 1: in a hotel room without our families, all that stuff,
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  Speaker 1: at least the Cowboys were out there and took care
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  Speaker 1: of business. All right, different Washington, The state of Washington
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  Speaker 1: is where we got Skyler. He'll start us off today,
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  Speaker 1: Skyler in Washington State. What's up?
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  Speaker 4: Good morning, Mack. I'm pretty good. So I kind of
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  Speaker 4: have more qush evaluating your talent from the draft, Like
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  Speaker 4: how many years would you give somebody like Scoot Maker
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  Speaker 4: who is drafted the second round but hasn't seemed to
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  Speaker 4: live up to that draft pick?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? I think it varies by the the position, but
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  Speaker 1: also where you draft them, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 1: because it's like, you know, you want to you want
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  Speaker 1: these guys to develop, But what is this third year
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  Speaker 1: for Schoonmaker? So third year as a second round pick?
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  Speaker 1: I no, he has not lived up to expectations there,
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  Speaker 1: He's not, you know.
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  Speaker 5: Now.
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  Speaker 1: Ferguson is also blossomed and he's better, and I think
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  Speaker 1: span Forward maybe is better as well. But no, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think Schoonmaker has given you what you would what
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  Speaker 1: you would want from a second round pick after three years.
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  Speaker 4: That's kind of what I've been thinking about him, because
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  Speaker 4: every time he gets a shot that catch, the ball
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  Speaker 4: seems to drop it. And yeah, just that maybe Ferguson
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  Speaker 4: kind of hindered his development a little bit too.
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  Speaker 3: Sure.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I think if they would have thought sorry,
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  Speaker 1: but I think if they would have kind of seen
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  Speaker 1: what Ferguson was about to do, they wouldn't have drafted
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  Speaker 1: him in the second round, you know, but that was.
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  Speaker 4: What we like coming off of Schultz, and then we
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  Speaker 4: had Ferguson and he was kind of showing us some
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  Speaker 4: glunces instans. So maybe Schoonmaker just kind of got washed
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  Speaker 4: out by pretty you know, showing up and playing.
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  Speaker 1: Sure good, Yeah, yeah, I mean Ferguson has has been
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  Speaker 1: good and he's he's taking that next leap, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of it's kind of left scoon Maker in
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  Speaker 1: a in a weird spot.
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  Speaker 4: And then you got for he's looking pretty good for
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  Speaker 4: six or was he six or seventh.
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  Speaker 1: Round, undrafted, was undrafted.
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  Speaker 4: He's undrafted. Okay, yeah, really, I mean you kind of
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  Speaker 4: see that with Illinois, Like maybe I felt like Tolbert
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  Speaker 4: was holding back his reps a little bit this year
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  Speaker 4: and he's kind of just came out in the last
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  Speaker 4: seven weeks and really showed that. Okay, maybe people under
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  Speaker 4: estimated this guy.
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  Speaker 3: M h.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So it just kind of interesting. I just kind of
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  Speaker 4: wonder what you know based off their draft, you know,
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  Speaker 4: draft position, and how long would you get a second
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  Speaker 4: round versus a third round.
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  Speaker 6: Or fourth round.
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  Speaker 1: No, that's the first.
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  Speaker 4: Round you expect to start, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it varies. Thanks for the call, Skyler. And
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  Speaker 1: that's and that's one that you know, you don't evaluate
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  Speaker 1: everybody the same. You don't treat people the same, they
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  Speaker 1: don't get paid the same. So it's not there's not
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  Speaker 1: just this blanket coverage that you say, all right, this
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  Speaker 1: is how you evaluate certain players. But your second round picks,
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  Speaker 1: to me, you know, should should be guys that that
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  Speaker 1: that can come in and usually usually they're first they're
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  Speaker 1: they're like guys that you think are could be first rounders,
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  Speaker 1: but they've got something that that kind of held them back.
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  Speaker 1: The Scoonmaker pick was always a little strange to me
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  Speaker 1: because you know, you were hoping for that jump there
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  Speaker 1: and and Ferguson had already shown enough as a rookie
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  Speaker 1: where you you know, you wanted to see something there,
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  Speaker 1: and that pick really hasn't panned out. And it'll be
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  Speaker 1: interesting to see what happens here in this last year
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  Speaker 1: of his contract coming up. Do they just ride it
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  Speaker 1: out or do they move on? Because I know this,
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  Speaker 1: If Lounda Wells is the tight ends coach, I mean
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna find other tight ends that that's he's he
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  Speaker 1: does it. He's done it every year. He's found hindershot,
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  Speaker 1: he found span Forard Princeton Fant has been a guy
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  Speaker 1: that they they brought in and he's stills around in
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  Speaker 1: the practice squad. And I feel like there's another undrafted
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  Speaker 1: tight end that they that they got somewhere in that mix,
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  Speaker 1: like two or three years in a row. Well John
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  Speaker 1: Stevens was one, and he just unfortunately just couldn't stay healthy.
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  Speaker 1: But he was another one that they found. Lunda Wells
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  Speaker 1: will find you a good tight end. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if if they have to move on
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  Speaker 1: from Schoonmaker or not. All right, let's go to our
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  Speaker 1: next her. Now, this guy's done something that I haven't
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  Speaker 1: done yet, and that's had had Christmas with my mom
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  Speaker 1: Randy in Texas, Canna, Randy, what's up?
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  Speaker 7: What's going on? Brother?
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  Speaker 8: How you doing?
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  Speaker 1: So? My my mom in Texa, Canna spent with Christmas
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  Speaker 1: day watching the game with you and your family.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, she did.
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  Speaker 7: It was an awesome time.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 7: I didn't want them to be over there by themselves,
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  Speaker 7: and so we invited them over and they turned. Rob
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  Speaker 7: came over and we had a good old time.
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  Speaker 1: And it's Rob's birthday, by the way, Happy birthday. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Happy birth Rob. Yeah he's up there. You know he's
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  Speaker 1: up there. He's good, he's doing good. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: at this point, you don't keep keep counting that much.
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  Speaker 1: But no, anyways, that was a nice gesture. Uh, and
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  Speaker 1: just so awesome this this Cowboys storyline community and just
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  Speaker 1: kind of what it's done. And to think that, you
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  Speaker 1: know that my mom's having having Christmas Day with with
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  Speaker 1: with one of the captains pretty often.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, Hey, I thought she'd be carried off by my
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  Speaker 7: crazy family, but she fit right in actually, And I
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  Speaker 7: think you enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think doesn't everybody have a crazy family.
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  Speaker 3: You know?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we all kind of do.
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  Speaker 7: So yeah, ye.
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  Speaker 1: Did they sing karaoke? Chris Bey wants to know was
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  Speaker 1: there karaoke?
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  Speaker 7: No, there, there was not any karaoke, but I did
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  Speaker 7: invite him out to do that at a at a
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  Speaker 7: later date to continued.
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  Speaker 1: All right, sounds good, sounds good, and uh.
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  Speaker 7: And check your phone here in a minute. Because I
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  Speaker 7: heard you had too much to eat over the holiday.
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  Speaker 7: I sent you a picture. I got a kick out
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  Speaker 7: of it. Okay, all right, so real quick, I just
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  Speaker 7: want to say, running back that one hit that he
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  Speaker 7: put Williams where he took the guy off his feet.
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  Speaker 7: Oh my, that was awesome. Resign that guy. That's not
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  Speaker 7: why I called.
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  Speaker 3: Forgot go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally forgot about that play.
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  Speaker 3: That was.
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  Speaker 7: Oh man, that was not so anyway, I hate to
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  Speaker 7: even talk about this because you know, you don't want
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  Speaker 7: anybody to lose your job. But let's just scenario. If
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  Speaker 7: it happened, why don't we go poach the number one
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  Speaker 7: defense in the league, and which right now is the
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  Speaker 7: Houston Texans I believe, but there's two, two or three
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  Speaker 7: of them that are really really good because if if
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  Speaker 7: you notice what Seattle did, that's exactly what they did.
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  Speaker 7: They went and they got their Their head coach was
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  Speaker 7: the coordinator of the Ravens, and you know, the Ravens
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  Speaker 7: defense has always been great. Well one year in that
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  Speaker 7: guy's got Seattle playing locked out, and I think instead
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  Speaker 7: of us just going out and trying to find a
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  Speaker 7: name or something, we need to find somebody that is proven.
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  Speaker 7: You know, let's let's look at these top defensive teams
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  Speaker 7: and if it can't if we can't get because I
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  Speaker 7: think Houston, I believe the head coach kind of plays
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  Speaker 7: there or calls their defense, so they should have a
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  Speaker 7: defensive coordinator by name that maybe isn't quite in charge
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  Speaker 7: of it. So maybe we can touch him into coming
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  Speaker 7: over to be our defensive coordinator and bring that stylid
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  Speaker 7: defense to us.
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  Speaker 1: Still, that's still a lateral move though, and when you
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  Speaker 1: do the title that way, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's still defensive coordinator to coordinator.
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  Speaker 7: And you know it would it matter if he if
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  Speaker 7: he was offered more money or is it or is
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  Speaker 7: that like a rule thing.
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  Speaker 1: It's a rule, It's definitely, it's definitely a rule from
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  Speaker 1: a lateral move so that you know, you have these
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  Speaker 1: guys like for instance, Clayton Adams is the offensive coordinator,
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  Speaker 1: he couldn't go be the offensive coordinator, even if he
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  Speaker 1: was a play caller. I don't think he could do that.
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  Speaker 1: So that's that's kind of why titles matter. And also
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  Speaker 1: you know with Houston, you know, they they they got
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  Speaker 1: Will Anderson with the number two pick, and then they
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  Speaker 1: you know, then they traded and or or then they
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  Speaker 1: picked up I think as a hunter. Uh there, So
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  Speaker 1: they've got a couple of really good pass rushers. So
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  Speaker 1: it's not just coordinator. I mean it's players as well.
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  Speaker 1: And that's that's why thing. I think the Cowboys are
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  Speaker 1: going to have to look at him. And if there
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  Speaker 1: are some defensive you know, playmakers, you know maybe in
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  Speaker 1: the draft, maybe you go get them. You'd have to
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  Speaker 1: use your picks to go up there. But I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if that's what what you know, that's what they feel
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  Speaker 1: like is missing. But uh, and then.
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  Speaker 7: Like last night's game, you know, the Eagles proved that
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  Speaker 7: you don't have to have the best offense as long
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  Speaker 7: as that defense is lives out. And that's what happened
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  Speaker 7: last night. Their their defense shut out the Bills and
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  Speaker 7: they won the game. So I think we could just
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  Speaker 7: do a little tweaking on our offense, just try to
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  Speaker 7: not mess it up by doing too many changes. Uh,
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  Speaker 7: And we've all talked about the obvious things that we
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  Speaker 7: need to do on offense. But yeah, we definitely need
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  Speaker 7: to concentrate on defenses offseason for sure. Special teams. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 7: that wouldn't hurt. But yeah, yeah, So how would your holidays?
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  Speaker 1: It was good? It was good. Yeah, it was good, Ranny, Thanks, thanks,
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  Speaker 1: you know guy, We got back and thanks for the call. Ready.
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  Speaker 1: We got back right after the game Christmas night, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, we didn't for me. We we just moved
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  Speaker 1: everything to the next day. So kids are young enough
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  Speaker 1: that you know, Santa you know, got into some traffic,
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  Speaker 1: I guess, and I didn't didn't get here until the
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  Speaker 1: next day, So we did it. Friday morning was just
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  Speaker 1: like Christmas morning was great. So just a date on
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  Speaker 1: the calendar. All good. Let's go to Derek in Minnesota. Derek,
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  Speaker 1: what's up?
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  Speaker 5: Morton?
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  Speaker 8: Nick?
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  Speaker 7: How are you doing good?
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  Speaker 1: How are you?
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  Speaker 3: Derek?
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  Speaker 5: Oh?
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  Speaker 9: I got to drive a cleared off so much atter
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  Speaker 9: now nice?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, eighty five degrees here like a few days ago,
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  Speaker 1: so yeah, we don't have that issue.
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  Speaker 7: Must be nice.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, listen, I'm I'm I'm a little bummed about
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  Speaker 9: this season. But you know, I think I think I
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  Speaker 9: think there's a couple of silver linings. I mean, I
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  Speaker 9: mean Jimmy Johnson, I mean, he didn't win his for
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  Speaker 9: a super Bowl until you know, you know, his fourth year,
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  Speaker 9: so I mean you can't. I mean, I mean his
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  Speaker 9: first year, you know, wasn't all sunshine and rainbows either. Yeah,
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  Speaker 9: And I mean I think we got I mean I
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  Speaker 9: think so long as we Key Pickens and Javonte, I mean,
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  Speaker 9: as so long as you find a way to sign them,
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  Speaker 9: and then we can get a new defensive coordinator that
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  Speaker 9: actually knows what he's doing or something that might maybe
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  Speaker 9: mesh as well. And I think we got a lot
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  Speaker 9: of draft capital for you know that really stocked you
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  Speaker 9: really get some pieces on defense. I think I think
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  Speaker 9: we got some. Yeah, I think I think there's a
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  Speaker 9: lot of positives going in the next year. It just
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  Speaker 9: doesn't take away this thing of of everything this year.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean you're right, there are some there
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  Speaker 1: are some pretty good pieces in place. But but you know,
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  Speaker 1: defense is gonna have to be a huge priority. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure it starts with coordinator and and then from
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  Speaker 1: from there, like making sure that the guys that are
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  Speaker 1: here is gonna fit with whoever that that they're it in.
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  Speaker 1: So that's that's the key to every offseason. And but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean on on offense, You've got some some interesting
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  Speaker 1: uh decisions to make there as well, mainly on the
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  Speaker 1: offensive line. But and then and then obviously resigning those
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  Speaker 1: guys Davante Pickens is the franchise tag in place. You know,
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  Speaker 1: there's there's questions there, but you know, I think Dak
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  Speaker 1: had a really good year to come back, you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe comeback player of the Year. I think McCaffrey will
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  Speaker 1: be have a say in that. And I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe people get cute and want to give, you know,
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  Speaker 1: give it to Philip Rivers, but I would think, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Dak's Dak's year has been a good year
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  Speaker 1: for for him. For a guy that missed ten games
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  Speaker 1: and now has a chance to start every game, I
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  Speaker 1: bet he does. I bet he does start the game.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if he finishes it, but I bet
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  Speaker 1: he does start the game. It's hard to go with
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  Speaker 1: the compete every day mantra if you're not going to
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  Speaker 1: do that, but you don't have to play the whole
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  Speaker 1: game at Milton, you know, especially going to give out
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  Speaker 1: six sacks, you know, and get hit all day long.
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  Speaker 1: You certainly don't want to do that. And the Giants
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  Speaker 1: have the defensive players to to to bring that pressure.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Kady and Henderson Nevada, Katie,
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  Speaker 1: what's up?
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  Speaker 8: Nick?
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  Speaker 3: Are?
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  Speaker 1: I am? Good?
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  Speaker 10: Good?
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  Speaker 8: So, with it being New Year's Resolution season, I was
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  Speaker 8: curious what you think if the Cowboys could only pick
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  Speaker 8: one New Year's resolution for twenty twenty six, what should
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  Speaker 8: it be? And what do they have to do so
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  Speaker 8: they actually keep their resolution tonight?
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  Speaker 1: And I can I ask you what what would yours be?
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  Speaker 1: Do you have a mind?
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  Speaker 10: I mean, I really think we need to focus on
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  Speaker 10: defens which I know is kind of vague, but I
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  Speaker 10: think we need we need to get some some pass
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  Speaker 10: rash and that that linebacker in. But I honestly think
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  Speaker 10: that comes back to getting not to clote Jason Garrett here,
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  Speaker 10: but get the right guys that's going so's the right
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  Speaker 10: kind of guy. So I think we got to get
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  Speaker 10: the right kind of guys, both on the staff and
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  Speaker 10: on the field, of course, but I think, uh, I
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  Speaker 10: think that needs to be the focus, is getting the
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  Speaker 10: right the right guys to to make the defense work.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: You know, well that's not too vague. I appreciate that, Katie,
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  Speaker 1: and and you know, they they've gone away from that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that was a nice little you know stick
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  Speaker 1: that that Jason Garrett woul always say we need the
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  Speaker 1: right kind of guy, and I they haven't always done that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm not saying that they've they've taken bad
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  Speaker 1: character players, but you know, in the last four or
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  Speaker 1: five years, they've they've changed that a little bit. And
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  Speaker 1: that I said it the other day. I think they
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  Speaker 1: need to go back to that. They need to at
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  Speaker 1: least get some guys in here that that have a
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  Speaker 1: true love for football. And uh even if that does
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  Speaker 1: mean you're sacrificing a little bit of the measurables and
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  Speaker 1: things like that that everybody fall falls in love with
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  Speaker 1: this time of year. But and that's hard to quantify that. See,
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  Speaker 1: That's that's what makes the draft what it is. If
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  Speaker 1: a guy runs a four to two seven, and he
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  Speaker 1: runs a four two seven, you know, I mean is
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  Speaker 1: what it is. And this guy runs four four to one,
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  Speaker 1: so it's faster. But this guy benches forty six times.
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  Speaker 1: This guy benches thirty six times. Well he's stronger. But
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  Speaker 1: does he love football?
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  Speaker 3: You know?
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  Speaker 1: Does he does?
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  Speaker 4: He?
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  Speaker 1: Is he going to spend hours upon hours on the
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: in the in the film room to try to get
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: better and understand his craft, understand his defense, understand what
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: he's doing and what his opponent's doing, things like that,
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: And that's always what's tough to figure out. But to
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: answer the question about the New Year's resolution and in
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: the world it to me it's a pass rush. Jervant,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Jadavian Clowney should not Jadavion Clowney and James Houston should
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: not be tied for this for the lead in sacks
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: like that's that's not that doesn't it's not a good situation.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: They they should be tied for third at five and
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: a half sacks. That that's kind of what you want.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: You want to guy up here at twelve thirteen, You
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: want another guy at eight, and then you want these
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: other guys around five and a half. That's what you
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: had with Micah and then you had like Dorin Armstrong
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: in there maybe or Tank and then after that you
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: had the Foulers and or who's the last year I
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: can't even think his name from the from the Bengals
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: that you know he had five you know, he'd had
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: about five sacks as well, Lawson, so I'm thinking of
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: But you know, but for that to be your your lead,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: your team lead at five and a half, that that
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: needs to be changed and they need they need to
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: fix that for sure. All right, let's go to break
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• 19:35
  Speaker 1: This is the time we do our Gellette Precision Player
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: of the Week. And how about Jadevian Clowney. He had
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: a he had a nice game. Haven't given it a
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: lot to the defensive players. I thought Clowney had had
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: a really good game. On his sack and a half,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: he had about three tackles for loss. Even the chase
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: down on Deebo Samuel there, he didn't he didn't get them.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: He kind of slowed him down. But just with him
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: there and that that was big because even though he
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: knocked the helmet off of Donovan Wilson and all that,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: and then they still got him out of bounds, led
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: to a field goal there instead of a touchdown. But
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: the chase by Clowning doing it his age was good.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: He hit it.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Hit a really nice game. Let's give it to somebody
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: on the defense from Gillette position player of the week.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the phone lines. We got
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Rob in Vegas. Rob, what's up?
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: Hey, Hey, Nick? How's everything?
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: I'm good? How are you?
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: I'm good? So piggyback, pick a back off what you
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: were saying. You know, there's a there's a guy that
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: wears silver and black. That checks all the boxes. He's
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: only twenty eight years old. His cap hit with the
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: thirty five one year and drops the twenty eight, and
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: you have the firepower to go get him. I would
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: definitely trade a first and I would throw an OSA
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: so I could get out from under that rrible contract. Uh,
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: you could resign Kenny Clark cheaper, and now you would
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: have Quinn Williams Clark and the man in silver and black.
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: And now I think you have a really good pass
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: rush defensive line and it helps your quarterbacks. Nothing helps
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: the quarterbacks better than a pass rush. I don't care
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: who you draft, who you get. So if if they
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: want to make this happen, and they want to make
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: a serious run, you know with Dak who has worked
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: a couple more years, then that's that's the guy you
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: gotta go. You gotta go get. You keep throwing in
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: the these couch potatoes. It ain't gonna it ain't gonna work.
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: You're gonna have to invest serious money to fix it.
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: I don't care who the defensive coordinator is. If you
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: don't have players, no coach looks good. M okay, all right,
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: I mean, and even if they lose if they have
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: to lose pickings because of it, I would take that
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: all day. I've watched Dek have really good offenses without
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: two great wide receivers. Most quarterbacks don't have two great
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: wide receivers. Some don't have any. I watched Buffalo, they
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: have nobody at wide receiver. And but that guy is special.
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: If we consider Dek a special quarterback, he shouldn't need
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: those two great wide receivers. Now, don't get me wrong.
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: They can have them all. They can make it happen.
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: They can get everybody. They just are unwilling to do it.
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: But if I if there is a if I have
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: to choose between one, give me the silver and black guy.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, I heard yeah, And I know, I know everybody
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: knows I think what you're talking about. And that's the
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: thing when you and I and I heard this actually
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: on when you you mentioned it this week, when y'all
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: do this storyline on spaces, and I heard a few
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: things Rob that you said about that not trying to
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: get the guy in in in in Vegas and so,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: and I wouldn't I wouldn't know, I wouldn't have an
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: opinion on that because I've kind of been brainwashed. I
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: think it's what you is, what you said, right, brainwashed
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: for me? Yeah so I heard.
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: That, Yes, well yeah, yeah, so I.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Asked Jerry what he thinks I should think about that.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: But but no, I I I don't. I don't hate
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: the opinion. But then again, it doesn't matter, right Rob.
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: No, No, it's not that it doesn't matter. But you're
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: you're hamstrung. You can't say what I could say.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Hamstrung is true. Brainwashed is different different terms.
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: Oh no, no, no, not brainwashed. Let's be honest. You've
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: never seen them win a championship.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Of course, but but you've been there for a long time, right,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: You're you're used to how they do business.
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: True.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: True. But I'll say this, and and and just to
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: kind of let people know they they on the on
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: the Twitter spaces and that that they've created and it's great.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: It's great community that that they they do. They talk
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: for hours on stuff and they kind of let it fly.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: But no, somebody sent that to me, and I did
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: hear that to me, Rob, I'll tell you a little
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: disrespectful to think, after twenty seven years of covering the team,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: that can't form my own opinions.
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: No, No, No, that's not what I that's not what
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: I meant. I didn't say you can't inform your own opinion. Okay,
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: you've just been beaten down for twenty seven.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Yet I get it, well, I I you know, I
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: it's it's fine, it's fine. And I'll say this though,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: because would you know, you kind of mentioned a little
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: bit about the fact that, well, you know, if Jerry
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: thinks this, then then Knit thinks this. But I promised
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: you this, Rob, if Jerry, if Jerry was listening to
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: this show, he wouldn't make you the captain, you know
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: what I mean, Like like, I love what you bring
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: to the table and all that, and so you know,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: I don't want to change that. It's fine. We're having
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: fun here. But I thought I thought that was a
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: little little too much to say, you know, brainwashed, like
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: I can't come up with my own thoughts here.
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: No, no, no, you come up with your own thoughts.
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: You just can't say you're right.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: And I can't say I say And I appreciate that
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: you didn't say that either. When we refer to a
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: player that is in Vegas and everyone knows who we're
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: talking about, and I agree with you, Rob, I totally
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: agree with that. I would be fine. I don't need
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: another two first round picks. If one of them, if
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: I can get a player to come in here that
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: can rush the passer like that, I'm doing it. I'm
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: the first round picks are not untouchable for me. Especially.
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: Yeah, they're not.
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: They're not as good as drafting as everybody wants to believe.
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: They are. As many hits they've had, They've had a
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: lot of misses.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Now, I'll say this, if you're going to move a contract,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: I think I think Kenny Clark's contract might be one
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: that you have to move more than OSA. Uh And
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Chris has helped me with a little bit on the
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: is the dead cap space for OSA?
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: I think it's five I think it's five million.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: It might have to be that might have to be
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: a June one move. He's I don't think I would
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: do that with OSA. Kenny Clark maybe.
• 25:59
  Speaker 7: No.
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: All I'm saying is, if I have to sweeten the
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: deal and I could get out, I don't need three
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: tackles making that kind of money. If I I know
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: I could.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: If I.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Would you do as Aku even though young developing cass pressure, God, God, yes, Yeah, oh,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: I mean not just it's not one for one. But
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying no, like a.
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: First in him, first in Donovan. Oh yeah, probably have
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: to do that absolutely. But only reason why I say
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: OS is there's no way they're keeping Clark at this price.
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: So if I keep Osa, I let Clark walk. If
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: I get if I have to throw oser in the
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: deal to get it done, then I could restruct, you know,
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: re signed Clark at a much cheaper price. I think
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: Clark has been a little bit better than OSA. I
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: don't think OS has lived up to his contract.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, but at the end, then again, the defensive
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: coordinator that comes in here has got to be a
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: new coordinator. I'm not tired of saying if there is one,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, there has to be a new coordinator. When
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: that happens, I wanted that vision, that person's vision of
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: this is how we're gonna do this and this and
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: move this and this is what I need for you know,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: so he might have a different vision of God, have
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Kitty Clark have to you know what I mean? And
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know what that is, but I'd like to
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: like to hear it, and then that needs.
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: To serve they gonna want all the players they can get.
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: But yeah, you know that that just can't happen. But
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: I don't know. I have to, like you said, I
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: have to assume they're going to move on from this guy.
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: I think there's too much heat. But the people talking
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: about bringing some of these dcs over, you can't, like
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: you said, unless you're making them assistant coach or even
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: that it's my head coaching job.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I think they changed that rule too for the assistant
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: head coach. I don't think that's one. All right, Rob,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: We're gonna move on, all right. Thanks, thanks for the call.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Let's go to Paul and Racine. What Wisconsin? Sorry Paul
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: and Racine, Wisconsin.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, Nick, good to speak to you. Very Christmas.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: And it's been a while.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it has been, but I'm always listening and so
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: and that last caller. It reminded me of the one
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: time on the previous show you on, the guy casually
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: said to you.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: You're on the payroll, Yeah, and I am.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: And you went yeah, but no. It was funny because
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: you're like, I've been very critical of this organization, and
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: I think you said something like they give you the
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: freedom to do that.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: And I was going to say that, you know what, Paul,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: I wanted to say that too, And I'll have to
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: give Jerry credit for that. They allow us to do this,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: They allow us to have a show like that. They
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: allow us to a platform to say I don't like
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: the micro Parson straight, you know, like like And I
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: said that right off the bat. I didn't like it.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Micae Parsons should have been here. They should have figured
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: it out. They should have been here. And guess what
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: he went there? He made a pro Bowl and you
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: don't have a pass rush. So I've said that I
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: get the ability to say that. Do I have to
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: be careful with the words, sure, just like we all do.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: But well, I have more freedom to talk about this
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: team than others do. And I'll give Jerry credit for
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: that and giving us this platform to do that. But
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: to think that I don't have, I can't kind of
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: speak for myself, and I'm get told what the doer
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: say is is not the truth. But anyways, Paul, let's
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: move on you. What do you have? What's on your mind?
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: Well?
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: I said this on the post game show last week.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: I said, you know, I want the pocus now to
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: shift away. I think we can all agree that iver
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: Pus is probably not going to be with the organization
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: next year. And the only thing I would say to
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: him is, you know, all the talk has done well.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: He doesn't have the players. The guy right to Mike,
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: I agree, but at some point, and I've said this
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: all season, the rest of the defensive players are not
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: buying what he's selling. And sometimes as a coach, you
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: kind of have to solve a system, so they're not
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: responding to it, So he needs to be gone. I look,
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: you know, ninety miles to the Southey, and you look
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: at Nashan Wright, who was a cowboy right all of
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: a sudden, he goes to Chicago and whatever coaches have
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: him there, they've turned him into a pretty darn good player.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: And I think that's what a good coach does, is
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: he gets these guys who might be marginally talented to
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: believe in themselves to become superstars. And that's why I
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: want to shift the focus away from all the talk
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: about Ebapus. It's got to be on Schottenheimer. I think,
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: as I said in the postgame show a couple of
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: weeks ago, the media in Dallas has to have a
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: laser focus on him because he has not proven to
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: me that he's the guy. He might have made some
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: culture changes, but like I said, I'll see that it
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: seems like he's the type of guy he's just weren't
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: happy to be there than to really just like turn
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: these guys into winners. And I think the focus has
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: to be on him. So I'll ask you, Nick, what
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: is one thing that you've seen Schottenheimer do at your
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: like and one thing that you think like it needs
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: to get better?
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, thanks for the Thanks for the call, Paul.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: I'll start with the second part. Things that you know
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: that could be better is the end of the half
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: time management play calling a little bit there. There's been
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: times where that kind of looked like first year head coach,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: you know, and that that that was That's one thing
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: that I that I think that, you know, it's got
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: to be a little better. And also to kind of
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: piggyback on that, I would say just and we understand
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: why because of the defense was was so bad this year,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: but but just just kind of having to play the
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: play calling with the offense and to basically try to
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: tech the team and protect the game based off the
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: fact that the defense can't score. And and you know,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: they kicked a lot of field goals this year. I
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: don't know if they kicked enough, to be honest with you.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, there were times where you just had to
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: go for it all the time. And when they go
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: for it, it's great. They did it six times. You
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: don't make it, then you're like, why don't you kick
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: the field goals? So I get it. It's just having
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: to understand the team and and and the defense, and
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: and he had a hard time doing that because the defense.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: I think he wanted to. He's the type of guys.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: He's a he's a good guy. He likes those players,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: he likes those coaches. He wants to believe in them.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: He trusts them. But you couldn't. You really couldn't trust him.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: And and you know that that being said, I I like,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: I like I like some of the behind the scenes
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: things that that he's done. From a culture standpoint, I
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: think that he's gotten. His offenses is really good. His
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: offense is play calling there, uh, for the most part,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: was good. Now you know into half and all that.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: You know, some red zone things, but I there was
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: there was a lot of plays we hadn't seen before.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: You know, you really couldn't say it was a vanilla
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: type offense at all. And I thought, you know, what
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: he did with the offense was really good. I think
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: he needs a defensive coordinator that he really knows and
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: he understands everything that that that Chody wants and vice versa.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: And when he turns his back to really focus on
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: the offense and talk to Dak on what happened on
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: that last series, he knows that his defensive coordinator is
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: doing what he would want. Two blitz is in a row,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: no blitz at all, you know, put everyone back. Whatever
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: it is. He he needs to have that, and I
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: don't know if he had it this year. Let's go
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: to Sebastian and Savannah, Georgia. Good morning, I'm good. How
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: are you.
• 33:53
  Speaker 14: I'm doing well. I'll just done a little living room
• 33:56
  Speaker 14: seaming this morning. And I wanted to hop one real
• 33:59
  Speaker 14: quick brilliant points about Brian Schottenheimer. By the way, as
• 34:02
  Speaker 14: a first year coach. When I look at the other
• 34:04
  Speaker 14: first year coaches around the league, like Kellen Moore, so
• 34:06
  Speaker 14: on and so forth, Brian Schottenheimer is one of the
• 34:09
  Speaker 14: top marks. Kellen Calverley get the four wins. Brian got
• 34:12
  Speaker 14: the seven wins so far, but we're not gonna compare
• 34:13
  Speaker 14: out with the Orange.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Well, but be fair, let's let's go look at the Bears.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Let's look at the Patriots, right, I mean right, right, right.
• 34:20
  Speaker 14: But I was thinking he's one of the top he's
• 34:21
  Speaker 14: one of the top five brand new first time head
• 34:25
  Speaker 14: coaches this year. Now, as far as the George George
• 34:28
  Speaker 14: Pickens thing, and uh, we're in the offseason officially because
• 34:32
  Speaker 14: we're not we're not going to the playoffs. Right, it's
• 34:34
  Speaker 14: not a case of whether you can or can't sign George.
• 34:37
  Speaker 14: You shouldn't if your offense was the number one offense
• 34:41
  Speaker 14: and your defense was dead last. You should not have
• 34:44
  Speaker 14: the top quarterback, the top wide receiver, and another top
• 34:47
  Speaker 14: receiver on the same team. Just sit there and ask
• 34:51
  Speaker 14: Cincinnati's quarterback if he'd rather have Tee Higgins or if
• 34:54
  Speaker 14: he'd rather have an offensive lineman. I think we should
• 34:57
  Speaker 14: take the same approach that Jerry allegedly took with Michael Parsons,
• 35:00
  Speaker 14: where you said, you get three players for the price
• 35:01
  Speaker 14: of one, and instead of paying GP thirty five thirty
• 35:05
  Speaker 14: six million dollars, thirty million dollars whatever, the case is
• 35:07
  Speaker 14: you pay three defenders because we desperately need help at
• 35:10
  Speaker 14: three levels of defense. You know that eight to twelve
• 35:13
  Speaker 14: million dollars that he would have got per you know, quarter,
• 35:16
  Speaker 14: and I would give that to someone else because realistically,
• 35:19
  Speaker 14: we have to retool that defense no matter what defensive
• 35:22
  Speaker 14: coordinator we get in here. If he decides to bring
• 35:24
  Speaker 14: that guy back or if he decides to go with
• 35:26
  Speaker 14: someone else, it won't matter if there are no tools
• 35:28
  Speaker 14: in the shed for them to work with and we
• 35:30
  Speaker 14: roll out the same team next year. But I'll hang
• 35:32
  Speaker 14: up and listen, you guys, have a happy New year
• 35:33
  Speaker 14: and have a great day.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, that's that's going to be the biggest
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: dilemma of the offseason. Thanks for the call, Sebastian. That
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: that's going to be the big question, right, And there's
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: always one, right, there's always a question that you that
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: you you know, have to to figure out, and that
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: that's what they're there. Their big dilemma is going to
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: be do they do they try to sign him and
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: or do they say, hey, let's build defense through the
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: draft and try to get better that way and hope
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: that you have a coordinator. I thought, I thought, what
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Paul said, I kind of glossed over it to answer
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: the question, but you know, just it's just a good
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: way of saying it. They just didn't respond to him.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: They just didn't some players. You know, is it the players?
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Is it? Is it the scheme? Is it the coach?
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Is it the message that he was sending? Is this
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: an old message? Yeah, he was a good coordinator a
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: few years ago. The game changes, though, The game changes
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: so much. Look at look at the offenses now? How
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: many how many like hook and laterals did we see yesterday?
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: I saw two. I mean, I think it's it's a
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: brilliant play. I've thought about that play for years. I
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: loved that play, and I think it works now, especially
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: with how quick and how everybody swarms on defense. It
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: that that's a perfect play. I saw it twice in
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: yesterday's games, and you know, once once it worked really
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: well with Buffalo and then with chid Go it got
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: down to the end, and I don't know about you,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: I think that was a great football game. You know,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: when you don't have a dog in the fight and
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: you just kind of watch him and I don't care
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: about defense. I mean care about defense, but I'm just
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: saying that was a good football game of guys going
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: back and forth, back and forth, and you know, it's
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: definitely fun to watch. But but to answer the question
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: about the pickings and the defense, I just don't think
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Jerry will do it. I think Jerry let go of
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: a great player, and I don't think with Micah, and
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: I don't think he'll do it here. And you know,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: there's something to be said for making the move, you know,
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: making the trade and stealing him, you know, a third
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: round pick for a pro bowler. You know, that's basically
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: what happened. Let's see what the market looks like for
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: for for him and and and I think it'll What
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: I think they'll do is I think they'll franchise them.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: And then if they do, you decide to trade him,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: you'll get a little bit more value than you would
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: if you just let him go and get a comp
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: pick and all that. I think they're going to try
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: to do that and put the tag on him. All right,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: let's go to Max in Dallas. Max, Here, here we go.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: Up.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: I like it. Just come in there with your own Yeah,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 38:24
  Speaker 15: Hey, long time listener, first time caller. Uh, I'm just
• 38:28
  Speaker 15: curious you know, I know that the Cowboys. That feels
• 38:31
  Speaker 15: like we have a plan to optimize the last years
• 38:35
  Speaker 15: of Dak here, which I think we should. You know,
• 38:37
  Speaker 15: I believe in Dak and I like to think that
• 38:40
  Speaker 15: he can take us there if we have the right
• 38:42
  Speaker 15: team around him. So I'm curious how does that affect
• 38:45
  Speaker 15: our team building and decisions we make over the short term,
• 38:49
  Speaker 15: you know, and how long? I guess do you think
• 38:51
  Speaker 15: that window is that we have left with Dak, Because
• 38:55
  Speaker 15: I don't want to get too far in the future,
• 38:57
  Speaker 15: but it seems like teams in the NF are really
• 39:01
  Speaker 15: taking advantage of rookie quarterback contracts and you can do
• 39:05
  Speaker 15: a lot with that, and I feel like when we
• 39:07
  Speaker 15: switched to Dak, we couldn't do that because of the
• 39:09
  Speaker 15: Romo situation. So I just really hope that, you know,
• 39:14
  Speaker 15: I want us to optimize our chance with Dak, but
• 39:17
  Speaker 15: I also want us to be really careful so that
• 39:20
  Speaker 15: we're in a great position for wherever we decide to
• 39:23
  Speaker 15: go next. And I'll hang up and list them.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Thanks the yeah thinks that's a that's a good question.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: There are a good comment, you know, and I think
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: there are teams I don't think the Cowboys are one
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: of them, Jerry, I don't think. I don't think he's
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: on them. But there are teams that would be in
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: this same spot of a lot of you know, eight
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: and eight, ten and seven, twelve and five, you know what,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: that whole area not not great, definitely not terrible, but
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: not at that, you know, not where you need to be.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: And they have a quarterback in his now eleven the year,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: and they have two first round picks and one of
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: them will be in the twenties. There are teams that
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: would consider a quarterback there, even with Dak, even with
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Dak still coming back, consider a quarterback. Let them develop
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: and then we'll see what happens. It's always that's always
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: tough to do because as the veteran quarterback here, like
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: why don't you give me some help once you give
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: me a you know, two defensive guys, or once you
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: give me a left tackle or you know, another lineman
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: and and you know, and and and help me get
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: better as opposed to drafting someone that have to look
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: over my shoulder. I don't think that'll happen, but I
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: think it's it would be a it would be a move,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: you know, to consider uh, maybe if they had a
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: second round pick. They don't. But but you're not wrong, Max,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: and thinking that it's time at least you have to
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: start looking down the road a little bit. This team
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: has gotten fortunate with their quarterbacks the last two times,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: undrafted in the fourth round, you know. And and to
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: think that they've gotten a decade or more out of
• 41:04
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• 42:20
  Speaker 1: Let's go to Dylan, Northport, Florida. Dylan, what's up in it?
• 42:25
  Speaker 18: Do you have any of your own thoughts today? Or
• 42:26
  Speaker 18: Jerry tell you everything to say?
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Let me let me. He's gonna email me and then
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: I'll let you know. But it'll be something like, Hey,
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: how's it going? How is your Christmas?
• 42:35
  Speaker 7: Dylan?
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: It'll be something like.
• 42:36
  Speaker 18: That, Dude, that was funny. I'm just good.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: I was.
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: I have me rolling on the.
• 42:41
  Speaker 18: Floor and Rob great recovery by Rob on that one.
• 42:46
  Speaker 18: But yeah, I mean, we we try and keep a
• 42:48
  Speaker 18: civil in there to an extent, but we do let
• 42:50
  Speaker 18: it rip. But it's all recorded, so you know, we
• 42:52
  Speaker 18: gotta be a little careful by what we're doing in there,
• 42:54
  Speaker 18: for sure.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's fine, you know what I mean, Like like,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: I love the fact that y'all do it and you have,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: you know, a show. But but to to say that,
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: and again this was me and Rob talking back and forth,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: it's fine to say that. It's it's it is one
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: thing to say, Yeah, I can't say a lot, I
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: you know, I can't mention certain players or whatever. But
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: I feel like I have enough free reign to say,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: you know, my my opinion on stuff, and I feel
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: like I do that. But you know, it's it's all good.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: It's all yeah.
• 43:24
  Speaker 18: You know, you know, we all respect you and Stephan,
• 43:26
  Speaker 18: Rob respect you and all that. Rob says things sometimes
• 43:30
  Speaker 18: he's got you know, he talks fast and talks a lot,
• 43:32
  Speaker 18: so sometimes he says things that he might not really
• 43:34
  Speaker 18: mean in that way.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: But I said this, that's why the captains are who
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: they are, you know what I mean, because they're all
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: you guys are all a little different, uh, you and
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Irene and and like, let's not Irene kind of started
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: that whole conversation. It was about Jordan Lewis. Let's not,
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: let's not you know, you know immediately, you know, leave
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: her out of the out of the out of the mixture.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: But but the the captains are the captain. They all
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: provide something that very unique and very important to shows
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: like this. And so with you and and and of
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: course Rob, Irene, Randy you know, those those my four
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: captains for all storyline last year, and you all provide
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: something different to the table. So U and I wouldn't.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't change that and don't want to.
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: Change that, no doubt.
• 44:21
  Speaker 18: I mean, we all, we all appreciate you on Kris Noll.
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: And as far as what Rob.
• 44:24
  Speaker 18: Was saying just now on the call with the trades
• 44:26
  Speaker 18: and and all that, you know, I'm down for something similar.
• 44:30
  Speaker 18: I'd hate to you know, Ohio State has some really
• 44:33
  Speaker 18: good players coming out defensively, and those are guys that
• 44:36
  Speaker 18: I kind of want to key on. And so I'd
• 44:37
  Speaker 18: hate to get into a spot where you can have
• 44:40
  Speaker 18: a young guy for five years who was really, really,
• 44:42
  Speaker 18: really good, but shoot at a trade of my pickaway,
• 44:45
  Speaker 18: and you know, you're kind of mortgage in the future
• 44:47
  Speaker 18: if you trade that away. I'm not I'm not against it,
• 44:49
  Speaker 18: but at some point, you know, the next couple of
• 44:52
  Speaker 18: drafts are really kind of jacked up as far as
• 44:53
  Speaker 18: your picks go in the middle rounds. So you know,
• 44:56
  Speaker 18: the more higher end expensive talent you get, you're not
• 44:59
  Speaker 18: going to have those younger guy to offset those big contracts.
• 45:01
  Speaker 18: And then when it all hits, it's gonna hurt really bad.
• 45:04
  Speaker 18: But if you get a championship out of it, okay,
• 45:07
  Speaker 18: that's fine, but you know it's not guaranteed. But if
• 45:09
  Speaker 18: you want to go all in and risk at all,
• 45:11
  Speaker 18: it's fine. Something different. So I'm down for that too.
• 45:13
  Speaker 18: And I like what Rob was saying there.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'd like it. But you're you're right. I
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: mean it comes with a risk. I mean there are
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: teams that have done it that haven't won. There's teams
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: that have done it. Eagles did it, Philly. I mean,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: the Rams did it and they won. There's other teams
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: that have kind of tried to do it and you
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: don't win, you know, and then it kind of screws you.
• 45:33
  Speaker 18: And it's not just like you have a bad cat
• 45:34
  Speaker 18: situation for one year, because that one year of bad
• 45:37
  Speaker 18: cat situation means you lose players that you would have
• 45:39
  Speaker 18: had for the next three or four five years, three
• 45:41
  Speaker 18: or four years potentially, So it's a it's a risk.
• 45:45
  Speaker 18: But at this point, you know, I've never seen the
• 45:47
  Speaker 18: super Bowl, so I'm down to do whatever. The hell, man,
• 45:50
  Speaker 18: just do something fun. Yeah, So still I got the
• 45:53
  Speaker 18: brother appreciate I cacitulator.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: All right, Jones, have a good one. Let's go quickly
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Josh and Chicago. Josh, what's up, man? Josh? You there?
• 46:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm here, Sorry about that.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: No, all good? How are you doing good?
• 46:06
  Speaker 6: How are you good?
• 46:08
  Speaker 8: So?
• 46:08
  Speaker 6: Actually two things. I am a I'm a little bit
• 46:11
  Speaker 6: upset because when you look at how the NFL everything
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: shook out, if we had taken care of business, there's
• 46:15
  Speaker 6: a chance that this is a playoff team. It's kind
• 46:17
  Speaker 6: of upsetting, you know, but it is what it is, right,
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: We got to take care of our own business first. Yeah,
• 46:23
  Speaker 6: and who knows, the butterfly flaps its wings and maybe
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: Green Bay plays better, Mike doesn't get hurt.
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: Who knows?
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Right, right, Yeah, there's two or three games you can
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: kind of go back on and say, oh man, you
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: know that that could have been different. But yeah, if
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: you do that, you got to make sure that you
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: throw in your two or three games.
• 46:40
  Speaker 6: That it looked like that we were going to lose.
• 46:42
  Speaker 6: I mean the Giants in the Giants game.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Eagles Eagles at home as well, Chiefs
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: had you had a good chance to lose that one too,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: So it usually evens itself out. The Cardinals game.
• 46:54
  Speaker 6: I just can't explain you just given the Panthers, the
• 46:57
  Speaker 6: Cardinals and the Panthers you just look back on, You're
• 46:59
  Speaker 6: just like, oh my god, or even the Packers, right,
• 47:01
  Speaker 6: like the Packers, it's like we taught like that's the
• 47:03
  Speaker 6: one that you look back on. But the reason I
• 47:06
  Speaker 6: call them I just want to bring up and I
• 47:07
  Speaker 6: know it's a little early, you know it's not March yet,
• 47:09
  Speaker 6: but free agency wise, I know we really all want
• 47:12
  Speaker 6: to keep Jeep and uh and I really want to
• 47:15
  Speaker 6: keep Javonte too. But when you look at the free
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: agents out there, there's a lot of running backs, wide receivers,
• 47:21
  Speaker 6: safeties and cornerbacks. There's really like one playmaking defensive end
• 47:25
  Speaker 6: who's going to be available and he might a franchise, right,
• 47:28
  Speaker 6: So when when you look at the money, it's got
• 47:30
  Speaker 6: to be right if we're keeping Javonte or Pickings, it
• 47:33
  Speaker 6: just has to be right because there's other people. There's
• 47:36
  Speaker 6: other places that we're gonna have to spend big on,
• 47:38
  Speaker 6: like the end, and there's not a big market like
• 47:40
  Speaker 6: there are for receiver, running back or quarterback. Even so
• 47:43
  Speaker 6: that's the only point I want to make Kevin great.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Day, all right, appreciate it, Thank you, Josh, you know,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: and to Rob's point from earlier in the show about
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: you know this, this offense can be good without two
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: star wide receivers, you know, but I would think you
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: you know, that would be a position you would draft
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: if you don't have. But again, I think they're gonna
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: franchise George, and if they don't, if they entertain a trade,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: then with a first round pick or two first rounds
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: or maybe a first in a second, you know, you
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: can negotiate that that trade, then then you would draft
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: a wide receiver, you know, probably in that in that
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: mix there too, So a lot of options, a lot
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: of options there. They're gonna have some tough decisions to make,
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: no doubt about it, because it's not just a slam
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: dunk to re sign you know, a running especially when
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: you think about every year there's been you know, Pollard
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: had a thousand yards and now you Rico Dawn had
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: a thousand yards, and now Davante has had maybe eleven
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: hundred almost twelve hundred yards, a lot of touchdowns, you know,
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: So you know, maybe maybe it's not needed to keep
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: keep them the same running back in there. But you know,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: I know Dak loves having Javonte in there, not just
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: as a runner but also blitz pick up. And it's
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: just the toughness there. So it's got to make sense.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Like you said, Josh had a really good point there.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: It's got to make sense. But a lot of decisions
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: to make, all right. We'll see what the decisions the
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: Cowboys make this week. We didn't really talk much about
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: the Giants game. That's fine. We'll have a couple more
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: shows to do that this week. Good stuff for everybody,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: all right. For Chris be I'm Nick Eatman. See you
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  Speaker 1: next time on Cowboys Storyline.
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