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Ep. 13 | Mysterious Missouri w/ Alex Shae pt. 2 | Sasquatch & Sourdough Podcast · Sasquatch & Sourdough

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SPEAKER_02: You know, but it was all just really um it was a lot, like a lot, and it helped me realize like what I was doing has to be done a certain way.
0:38
SPEAKER_02: Um so then when we went to the Missouri State Penitentiary the second time, um I don't think anybody knows this.
0:45
SPEAKER_02: I might have told them, I don't remember though.
0:48
SPEAKER_02: But I I was working at this bar called Whiskey Tango's, and that place was super haunted and had a whole bunch of crazy stuff.
0:54
SPEAKER_02: But there was a gentleman working there, and he's like, I can get you holy water if you want, and we can do like a ceremony.
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SPEAKER_00: Welcome to Sasquatch and Sourdough, the podcast where we embark on a journey into the depths of the unknown.
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SPEAKER_00: Weaving together threads of ancient scripture.
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SPEAKER_00: Biblical Tales of High Strangeness.
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SPEAKER_00: What about the twinkle?
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1:58
SPEAKER_00: And that is the whole problem with alien.
2:19
SPEAKER_02: So then when we went to the Missouri State Penitentiary the second time, um, I don't think anybody knows this.
2:25
SPEAKER_02: I might have told them.
2:26
SPEAKER_02: I don't remember though.
2:28
SPEAKER_02: But I I was working at this bar called Whiskey Tango's, and that place was super haunted and had a whole bunch of crazy stuff.
2:33
SPEAKER_02: But there was a gentleman working there, and he's like, I can get you holy water if you want, and we can do like a ceremony.
2:40
SPEAKER_02: And I I'd never done anything like that before.
2:42
SPEAKER_02: And so he went to his church and he had his priest or pastor bless the the water, and um and we were just out in the parking lot and he was like, Okay, I'm I'm gonna say this stuff and you know, and I'm gonna sprinkle this on you, and like um, you know, you just this is gonna help protect you, you know, because he he knew I had issues with other things and the particular house that I was living in at that time.
3:06
SPEAKER_02: I just had so many like such a spiritual warfare of just like evil, evil, evil all the time.
3:12
SPEAKER_02: And so when he did that, it was just it was so out of my character, but my like my soul knew like this you're getting into deep stuff, like you you need to do this.
3:25
SPEAKER_02: This is a step you need to take, and I'm glad I did because I think I know the first time I wasn't really affected, everybody else was, and then the second time it was like the most joyful peaceful experience that I had had, and and I don't know if it was because of that, you know, what he did for me, but it was it felt good that somebody cared enough to be like, hey, you're messing with some stuff going to that place, like you know, you need God to go with you, like and I'm I like I said, I wasn't I didn't wasn't walking with God at that time, and so it's funny now looking back that like he's always been there, he's always been like showing me like hey, I'm here, you know, you can't hide like the post I showed today, like you can run, but you can't hide.
4:12
SPEAKER_02: That's basically what that was.
4:14
SPEAKER_02: Because being at the we can talk about the Missouri State Penitentiary if you want to.
4:18
SPEAKER_02: I don't know how much time we have left, but Oh, whatever.
4:21
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's like we're I think we're in the right.
4:24
SPEAKER_02: And then we kind of went all over the place, but I kind of talked about that on the last podcast that I was on.
4:28
SPEAKER_02: I just because I was telling him how I was part Native American and I am too.
4:55
SPEAKER_02: And and I maybe it's because I'm a part of that that it it makes me more sensitive to that.
5:01
SPEAKER_01: I'm not really a hundred percent sure, but well it probably resonates with you too.
5:05
SPEAKER_01: And the fact that you have I want Crystal says she's her car her um her car.
5:09
SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
5:10
SPEAKER_01: Her um her phone is charging.
5:12
SPEAKER_01: Um so I'm hoping that she's that she can hop back on because I want to hear the I want her to hear this um this whole thing with with Sasquatch.
5:20
SPEAKER_01: Like, because you you're kind of not like I don't want to say like you're being haunted, but it seems like you are really getting these experiences in a certain spot.
5:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
5:29
SPEAKER_02: I actually went back out there today and my son was my son kept seeing the X marks that I I've been finding.
5:37
SPEAKER_02: And like there's this one particular X mark.
5:41
SPEAKER_02: It's part of the X is up off the ground, like it's like just like a log.
5:46
SPEAKER_02: And someone has taken a tree that's like this and has ripped the bark in half, shoved one in there, and then another one in there and made an X.
5:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and my son was like, dude, he's like, Okay, his whole thing is I told him I was getting him a shirt that says that's just natural, because that's always what he says to me, that's just natural, mom.
6:07
SPEAKER_02: And then he looked at that one today and he was like, hmm.
6:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, probably not.
6:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's not natural.
6:12
SPEAKER_01: See, and I've I've heard you talk about that before, and I've always wanted to like my initial reaction is so and people talk about this a lot too, is these like structures, right?
6:23
SPEAKER_01: So where I live and where we go walking and hiking, I mean, there's structures like that all the time because there are people that live in those structures.
6:32
SPEAKER_01: There are like off-the-beaten path structures that we've made with our children.
6:37
SPEAKER_01: So I don't I hate to be like the one to debunk things, but I'm always kind of a little bit more like before we get like over the top, let's be a little bit practical about what we're actually seeing.
6:47
SPEAKER_01: So when you talk about those structures, are they structures that we could easily debunk and just say, okay, well, it was like a homeless person or it was you know some homeschooler?
6:57
SPEAKER_01: Like mom.
6:58
SPEAKER_02: That's what the the the ladies at the nature center said that my footprint that I found that's just a homeless person.
7:04
SPEAKER_02: And so they're just a one-legged hopper who's hopping one time who hopped one time and then left.
7:12
SPEAKER_02: Uh, so I don't know where he hopped to, but right, um, there's that, and then they didn't even know that the wood structures were even being made out there.
7:21
SPEAKER_02: That that was what was shocking to me.
7:22
SPEAKER_02: It was like you work here at the park, and this has been going on for years, and I've heard rumors of witchcraft and people going out and doing seances in that specific area.
7:32
SPEAKER_02: But this wood structure, it's not one that you sleep in.
7:35
SPEAKER_02: It's not it's not even accessible for you to sleep in.
7:38
SPEAKER_02: It's just one one log in the middle, and then and it's not it's not like little tiny twigs that people can pick up.
7:46
SPEAKER_02: These are whole trees, like it's a whole tree, and the two like the big trees start at the top, and then they continue to just keep going down into a smaller pattern.
7:54
SPEAKER_02: But though sometimes there's two of them.
7:57
SPEAKER_02: There's recently only been one.
8:00
SPEAKER_02: Um, and then I went off on the path.
8:04
SPEAKER_02: Like I go off on the path, I don't stay on the path.
8:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
8:07
SPEAKER_02: And in that particular area where we've had a stick thrown at us, um, there's this part where I went around where I crap captured like the winged creature thing.
8:18
SPEAKER_02: I've just been obsessed with that area, and I I was like, okay, I'm gonna keep continuing to keep going, keep going.
8:23
SPEAKER_02: And I found another very similar wood structure.
8:28
SPEAKER_02: I I don't know.
8:29
SPEAKER_02: They're they're just they're not in like places that you would think are just like people are just like hanging out.
8:34
SPEAKER_02: Like it's I have to be saying everything's homeless is like not that it makes me mad, but it's like some of the X markers that I find are so high up in the air that a human could not reach them.
8:46
SPEAKER_02: Like that's the one that my son saw tonight.
8:48
SPEAKER_02: And I'll send you a picture of it because I took a picture, I was like, I'm gonna send this to Christina because Well, can you take video?
8:54
SPEAKER_01: I was gonna say, like, take take video.
8:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I can definitely do that.
8:58
SPEAKER_01: I would I would take I would start taking um and actually so that you know for for our audience, um, you know, you would capture this like really weird thing, and it was because you were taking uh unbeknownst to you, taking video like while you were supposed to just be taking like pictures with your phone.
9:16
SPEAKER_01: I would say like that's actually kind of a interesting happenstance.
9:20
SPEAKER_01: Like I would definitely just be taking like going in there like you're taking B-roll and just like, okay, this is where I am, you know, like you were making a YouTube video and then take the pictures because then you can um then you're really gonna start being able to kind of create that, or not create, but like, oh hey, there she is.
9:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, um, she's talking about all the uh this so her so Alex has had this crazy experience in the woods by like where they hike, and it's just this like constant like teasing Bigfoot, like with her and her kids.
9:56
SPEAKER_01: So I'm saying like next time she needs to just like take video um and try to get the video really going because something is like definitely toying with you guys.
10:08
SPEAKER_01: Um so tell Crystal about the X the X thing.
10:13
SPEAKER_02: Well, we've been finding X markers, um, and and the the tree bends is what kind of really I don't understand those two, but the tree bend was where we had like the siding, I guess.
10:26
SPEAKER_02: It was literally right there in front of us, but that's how I knew where the spot was.
10:31
SPEAKER_02: Um, and I see tree bends a lot, but the X markers are they're usually up high off the ground, like to where people can't reach them.
10:40
SPEAKER_02: And like this specific one that I was just telling Christina about, someone it looked like someone had like there was a tree that was in the ground, and it it looked like someone had ripped the tree in half and then stuck a br a big huge branch inside of that, like because I told my son, I was he keeps saying these, like, it's just natural, it's just natural.
10:59
SPEAKER_02: But I was like, buddy, someone had to have shoved that tree branch inside of that half split open tree, and then another tree, another tree was inside of it too, and then they just cross and they make an X.
11:13
SPEAKER_02: And like I I told my son, I said, Okay, if a human were to have done that, tell me what they would have had to have done.
11:18
SPEAKER_02: And he said, They would have had to have had equipment, they would have had to have had a ladder, they would have had to be strong enough to rip that tree in half.
11:26
SPEAKER_02: And he said, Or even if the tree was ripped in half, he would they would have had to have brought a ladder out there to pick that other one up and to shove it in that one.
11:32
SPEAKER_02: And he goes, Then why would anyone go through the effort of even doing that?
11:36
SPEAKER_02: Why would you do that?
11:37
SPEAKER_02: I don't know, but yeah.
11:41
SPEAKER_02: So he always did, he would always say, That's just natural, that's just natural.
11:45
SPEAKER_02: But like then when I found the footprint, and then when we found, like I said, like the winged creature type thing, he was like, Okay, this is this is interesting.
11:53
SPEAKER_02: And he was actually with me, he was with me when I had my I don't I call it the Men in Back Black experience, but in like later research, I find out like another person had a very similar experience, and they call him the creepy Burr Oak Woods entity.
12:08
SPEAKER_02: You can pull it up, it's it's it's on Google.
12:12
SPEAKER_02: But in my research of trying to find this lady to show her my wing creature, she was from MUFON, she acted like she was interested in my stuff, and then she blew me off.
12:21
SPEAKER_02: And I was really kind of upset about it because she was in contact with the gentleman who reached out to her in like 2011, I think was when the article was wrote.
12:31
SPEAKER_02: And I didn't know anything about her or this guy, and he had a very similar experience with a man out in the woods that made him extremely uncomfortable.
12:42
SPEAKER_02: The guy made us extremely uncomfortable, yeah.
12:45
SPEAKER_02: Um and other people that I've been on their podcast are like it sounds like Ingrid Ingrid Cole.
12:51
SPEAKER_02: Ingrid Cole, yeah.
12:52
SPEAKER_02: Um, cross with Mothman because of like the bat type thing that I captured.
12:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I just go right, I just go right to government.
13:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well trying to shut you up.
13:04
SPEAKER_02: There's a a hundred and eighty acre limestone quarry that was abandoned and privately purchased by a man, and it is directly connected to Baroquewoods.
13:16
SPEAKER_02: It is a science and technology lab now for members only.
13:22
SPEAKER_02: And they have cult association, like allegations against them, really bad stuff.
13:27
SPEAKER_02: Like they have their own school, they have their own church.
13:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, um you're only allowed down there, like if you have permission, it's all gated off.
13:35
SPEAKER_02: Like people don't leave the property very often.
13:38
SPEAKER_02: Um, there's like a whole waterfall down there.
13:40
SPEAKER_01: I think we're actually gonna get into this conversation in November with um Drew from Cryptid Warfare.
13:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm excited for that.
13:48
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, um that because you that's what I heard that story on, so everybody listening go, I'll I'll actually put that in the description so people can listen to um that that retelling because that you guys and Drew is a wealth of knowledge.
14:04
SPEAKER_01: I you could sit there and show me a picture of whatever you say was you know, something was laying here, and I'll just be like, okay, and it looks like grass.
14:12
SPEAKER_01: Like I am not that gal.
14:14
SPEAKER_01: I have no idea what a footprint looks like where I am.
14:19
SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm not that the fact that we I do this whole thing with my kids where they're not allowed to walk behind me.
14:26
SPEAKER_02: Even though this park is really safe and is literally through it's in a residential area.
14:30
SPEAKER_02: Like, I I have a place that I've reason like went to and had experiences that it's called Monkey Mountain, of all things to be called, in my hometown, which is right next to the pla the place that I'm living at now.
14:43
SPEAKER_02: Um, I knew that Sasquatch was out there.
14:45
SPEAKER_02: I had experience with Sasquatch out there, and researchers from all over the world go there to research Sasquatch.
14:51
SPEAKER_02: And so in my head, I'm thinking, though, they're not out here at this one.
14:55
SPEAKER_02: This is just full of people.
14:56
SPEAKER_02: Like that one out there, it's isolated.
14:58
SPEAKER_02: It's like nobody goes up there unless you're like on a horse.
15:01
SPEAKER_02: Like there's horse trails out there, but people don't go out there to just walk, so it's very isolated for them to be out there.
15:08
SPEAKER_02: So in my head, I wasn't thinking that they were at Baroque Woods.
15:11
SPEAKER_02: I mean, there's a whole nature center and just people walking non-stop.
15:15
SPEAKER_02: One weird rule though, you're not allowed to have your dogs or animal, only service dogs are allowed at Baroque Woods.
15:21
SPEAKER_02: Really?
15:22
SPEAKER_02: That is yeah, that is sun.
15:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that is weird.
15:27
SPEAKER_02: So, and then it closes at a certain time, but like you're not allowed out there past eight.
15:32
SPEAKER_02: You're you have to to leave and that I understand, but no dogs unless it's a service dog.
15:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's weird.
15:40
SPEAKER_02: And I I told my kids they were like, Well, why?
15:42
SPEAKER_02: And I said, Well, service dogs will listen.
15:44
SPEAKER_02: And I do know that there's probably I don't know if there's bodies out there, but I don't know if maybe they don't want people out like dogs out there to like find something.
15:53
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
15:53
SPEAKER_02: You know, a service dog would listen, uh, you know, another person.
15:57
SPEAKER_02: But then I also thought about no one wants to be out there cleaning up dog poop or stepping on dog poop on trails.
16:02
SPEAKER_02: So that could be another reason, but I don't know.
16:05
SPEAKER_02: You know, like but yeah, I mean, so I didn't think that we would have those experiences out there, but when we had this creepy, I call them the men in black, because we were talking about men in black when we had this experience.
16:18
SPEAKER_02: Like I was telling my son about this documentary that I watched, and we're talking about it, and it's we'd never been out there and it was dark.
16:26
SPEAKER_02: Um, we took side quests, and I told him.
16:28
SPEAKER_02: What was the documentary?
16:30
SPEAKER_02: Um, it just called Men in Black.
16:32
SPEAKER_02: It's by Darcy Weir.
16:34
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
16:34
SPEAKER_02: Um, he's one of my favorite documentary makers.
16:37
SPEAKER_02: He's from Canada.
16:38
SPEAKER_02: Super nice guy, super supportive.
16:40
SPEAKER_02: I really, really enjoy um getting to know him.
16:44
SPEAKER_02: Uh he's done so many.
16:45
SPEAKER_02: He's do he's doing the documentaries um about the like the UFOs from the water.
16:51
SPEAKER_02: Like he just had a big documentary come out about that.
16:54
SPEAKER_02: So he's very well super well-knowledgeable man.
16:58
SPEAKER_02: Um But I'm telling my son about this documentary, and I just watched it, all excited about it, and a lot of people are saying, okay, well, when you talk about things, you like man like you can manifest things or whatever just by like thinking or talking about them.
17:13
SPEAKER_01: That's I mean, that's not your intention in that moment.
17:16
SPEAKER_01: I mean, otherwise we would definitely not I would have ice cream floating to me all the time, like that's sort of kissing.
17:21
SPEAKER_01: Right?
17:22
SPEAKER_01: No.
17:22
SPEAKER_02: Chick-fil-A for me, but can't chic but so we're talking about this, and this man is coming on the trail and it's pitch, it's pitch black.
17:32
SPEAKER_02: Like we could not see anywhere near in front of us.
17:35
SPEAKER_02: And it almost appeared as like he spawned out of the ground, but uh in my like just obsessive thinking about it, I think you know, it was so dark that it took my eyes like a second to adjust that like a person was walking up and he was wearing all black, so it was very hard for my eyes to adjust.
17:52
SPEAKER_02: And when they finally adjusted, I said, Oh my god, thank God you're not Sasquatch.
17:56
SPEAKER_02: And my son goes, Why would you say that?
17:58
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, I don't know.
18:00
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I I didn't think anyone was gonna be out here in the dark, but I mean, you know, so he was a bit of a distance away from us, and then when he walked past us, he didn't acknowledge us, he didn't say hello, he didn't nod his head, he didn't do anything.
18:15
SPEAKER_02: And most people on that trail, like we've been out there a million times.
18:18
SPEAKER_02: Most people on that trail, they they do something, even if it's awkward, you know, they're just like, hey, you know, and you move on.
18:25
SPEAKER_02: But I thought in that in my in the moment I just thought maybe he had a headphone in, maybe he didn't want to talk, whatever it was, you know.
18:32
SPEAKER_02: And so my son goes, That was like weird.
18:34
SPEAKER_02: And I said, he probably just had a headphone in, buddy.
18:37
SPEAKER_02: Like, don't don't think about it too much.
18:39
SPEAKER_02: Well, he did not like this guy and the feeling that he gave him, and my son turned around to look at him.
18:44
SPEAKER_02: Well, he had walked quite a di like my son said he walked quite a distance to where when he looked back, he thought, he walked really far.
18:52
SPEAKER_02: Like, how did he get so far?
18:54
SPEAKER_02: And then and then he said, Oh my god, mom, and I said, What?
18:58
SPEAKER_02: And he goes, The guy is coming towards us.
19:02
SPEAKER_02: I said, What?
19:03
SPEAKER_02: And he turned around and was walking towards us.
19:06
SPEAKER_02: And in that moment that my son says he's turned around and he's coming at us, the man just goes, and my son goes at this and he starts running, like booking it.
19:20
SPEAKER_02: And I had gotten this huge walking stick.
19:22
SPEAKER_02: We had this whole moment with this little kid.
19:24
SPEAKER_02: We're like, our special walking stick, gotta have a special walking stick.
19:27
SPEAKER_02: And I'm like clutching this walking stick, and I'm like, do not let this person, like, or whatever this thing is, know that you are like completely freaked out.
19:36
SPEAKER_02: Like, just don't let them see you upset, you know?
19:40
SPEAKER_02: But in my head, I'm just like, get out, get out now.
19:43
SPEAKER_02: Like, this is not okay.
19:44
SPEAKER_02: Like, why would this person do that?
19:46
SPEAKER_02: Like, why would they even think that that was like okay to do?
19:49
SPEAKER_02: And so we get in the car and we're like, we're just beside ourselves.
19:53
SPEAKER_02: Like Zavers, like, that was what was that?
19:55
SPEAKER_02: Like, why did that guy do that?
19:57
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, I don't know.
19:58
SPEAKER_02: And we debated it forever, like forever.
20:00
SPEAKER_02: I went on a podcast, I talked about it, and I was like, I don't even know what that was, but whoever that guy was, like, I don't like you, you know.
20:07
SPEAKER_02: And so then I captured this weird thing, and I'm I researched that lady.
20:12
SPEAKER_02: I couldn't get a hold of her forever, so I just Google her name, and when I Google her name, that's the first thing that pops up creepy Burrow Woods Entity.
20:20
SPEAKER_02: And I'm sitting there and I'm like, no, oh no.
20:23
SPEAKER_02: I was like, oh no, this is gonna be bad.
20:26
SPEAKER_02: This is gonna be bad.
20:27
SPEAKER_02: So I'm reading this article, and this guy's like, Hey, I heard your podcast.
20:31
SPEAKER_02: Um everyone laughs at me when I tell this story, but you ladies seem like the people that I I you know would listen to my story.
20:39
SPEAKER_02: And so this gentleman's saying, you know, I used to go out in these woods all the time by myself.
20:44
SPEAKER_02: He said, I would go out there all the time.
20:46
SPEAKER_02: And he said, and this particular time it was winter, he said it was like 20 degrees out.
20:51
SPEAKER_02: He said he would he would go pretty far out there, and when he's out there, he said he um he walked out into this clearing and he said there was a man standing there, and he said, and he had his back towards him.
21:02
SPEAKER_02: And so he said he walked a couple steps forward thinking the man would turn around.
21:08
SPEAKER_02: No, he stood there with his back to him.
21:11
SPEAKER_02: So he said he got this really bad feeling, and he's like, I shouldn't I shouldn't be here, and so he said he starts backing up and backing up, and he said when he got about 50 yards away from him or so, he said he pulled up his binoculars and he said the moment that he got his binocular adjusted on this man, the man turned around and he said he had the most inhuman, like just disturbing smile on his face.
21:35
SPEAKER_02: And the guy said that he had never been more like disturbed basically.
21:40
SPEAKER_02: He turned around and he hightailed, he said I had two bad knees, and he said I hightailed out there, and his message to everybody was like, Do not go to Burr Oak Woods alone.
21:49
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, dude, and he said, What was weird was that the man was in a t-shirt and just a pair of gray slacks, like a black t shirt and gray slacks, and he said, and He was like it was twenty, twenty, twenty below.
22:02
SPEAKER_02: And he said so he wasn't wearing weather appropriate clothing.
22:05
SPEAKER_02: He said he just didn't seem like n like he was out of place.
22:11
SPEAKER_02: Out of place.
22:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
22:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
22:12
SPEAKER_02: And he just happened to stumble upon him.
22:15
SPEAKER_02: And it was just so eerily similar.
22:17
SPEAKER_02: Like he had a black t-shirt on and he had black pants on, but it was so dark.
22:22
SPEAKER_02: Like I said, they could have been gray.
22:24
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
22:24
SPEAKER_02: But it was like the same outfit.
22:27
SPEAKER_02: And it it was just just odd.
22:29
SPEAKER_02: I don't I just knew that I had this weird feeling, but it was just like, and then I read that article and I'm like, wow, okay, well, now I know for sure someone else has had this.
22:39
SPEAKER_01: That reminds the same thing.
22:41
SPEAKER_01: Reminds me of something.
22:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
22:42
SPEAKER_01: Doesn't that remind you of something, Crystal?
22:44
SPEAKER_01: Like something I don't want to say hat man because it's not hat man, but you know, like something it's not a shadow, it's a corporal, you know, being I don't know.
22:53
SPEAKER_04: It sounds like a portal, you know, um, like something just I don't know.
22:58
SPEAKER_04: Whatever it is isn't good though.
23:00
SPEAKER_04: It sounds like evil, definitely an evil entity.
23:04
SPEAKER_02: That's just yeah, it actually made my son pretty upset to like I can imagine.
23:09
SPEAKER_02: He didn't he said he explained he said that guy really like ruined nature for me.
23:13
SPEAKER_02: He just said I and I yeah, and then that's we stopped going on that trail, and then we went on another trail, and then when we went on the other trail, that's when we heard the monkey sounds and the creaking door sound, and then I was like, Oh my gosh.
23:26
SPEAKER_02: It would have been less creepy.
23:30
SPEAKER_02: That's what everyone said.
23:31
SPEAKER_02: Everyone's like, you probably wish it was.
23:34
SPEAKER_01: Especially the Sasquatch that they just saw in Oklahoma that they caught on video.
23:37
SPEAKER_01: Have you guys seen that?
23:39
SPEAKER_01: No, it's the one that's sitting, the one that's like just silly, like just chilling.
23:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and he looks over at the camera.
23:46
SPEAKER_01: It looks I think it looks like the beef jerky sasquatch, but whatever.
23:51
SPEAKER_02: He's cute.
23:52
SPEAKER_02: That doesn't matter.
23:53
SPEAKER_02: It looks exactly like the beef jerky one.
23:55
SPEAKER_02: He's it's probably just a behind-the-scenes uh video that they took and they're like, hey, push this out there.
24:02
SPEAKER_02: It'll get some views.
24:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, definitely.
24:05
SPEAKER_01: That is brilliant marketing.
24:06
SPEAKER_01: I don't care.
24:07
SPEAKER_01: You know what?
24:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
24:08
SPEAKER_01: That's why if we're not gonna catch this guy and he's interdimensional, which is what I think he is, then we you know what?
24:13
SPEAKER_01: Let's let's get those views, make some money.
24:16
SPEAKER_04: Well, to me, that's what it this man that you saw in the woods sounds interdimensional because the way you described it, like it came out of the forest floor and just appeared there.
24:26
SPEAKER_04: And it sounds like it really likes to mess with people.
24:28
SPEAKER_04: Like maybe it likes the fear, you know, the way he smiled at the one guy and the way he like ooga boogered at you and your son.
24:36
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
24:38
SPEAKER_02: Like it was almost like if we didn't acknowledge him, he wouldn't have acknowledged us.
24:43
SPEAKER_02: But because my son was curious and was like, he looked back at him, and I think that's why someone said like a fae or something like along that lines, and that it tried to pass as a person, but once we real like once we got that feeling like something to ask, and then it freaked out and was like, Oh god, they know I'm not a human.
25:04
SPEAKER_04: Have you ever heard of Uncanny Valley?
25:07
SPEAKER_04: It's like a feeling that you get when you see something that is posing as a human being, but it's not actually a human being, and you can't pinpoint what it is that is unhuman to you, but it just doesn't pass as actually human.
25:23
SPEAKER_04: So that's like this thing that people get.
25:25
SPEAKER_04: I the first time I ever heard it was when um we were watching this Christmas movie about the put the one about the train, Polar Express.
25:33
SPEAKER_04: Do you know how the animated people they don't look like people?
25:37
SPEAKER_04: And you I get this creepy feeling when I'm looking at those things, like you're not actually people, you're like robots or something, like posing as people.
25:44
SPEAKER_04: It's called Unfunny Valley.
25:46
SPEAKER_04: Oh wow.
25:48
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
25:49
SPEAKER_02: So they do a bunch of videos of people who take like makeup and they make like an extra smile, and like white, they put like white stuff on their face, and they they're still them, but then they just do these like little.
26:07
SPEAKER_02: I can't even watch them.
26:11
SPEAKER_01: I can't watch any of that stuff.
26:24
SPEAKER_01: Um, okay, so I want to do if we have time, like I wanna do two things.
26:28
SPEAKER_01: So Crystal, when you when you were off, um I wanted to have Alex uh describe I wanted to get your take on this fabric thing because I don't know how fabric is made.
26:41
SPEAKER_04: Do you know like what kind of dress was it?
26:44
SPEAKER_04: Like what time period was it?
26:46
SPEAKER_02: So like I said, the the earliest artifact I could find was like 1920, and the latest I could find was 1969.
26:56
SPEAKER_02: So I'm assuming um 50s maybe or maybe sixties, but the the lady made she made the dress, she she took the the material and made it herself, but I just don't know how they made it almost looked like it was screen printed, like how it's on there, like it wasn't like something that was sewn on, or it's not like a sewn pattern, it was just like it almost looked like it was printed on there, and it's multiple times all over the dress.
27:31
SPEAKER_02: So I think Christina was trying to pick your brain on if you might know how people might have put patterns on dresses in that time.
27:41
SPEAKER_04: Oh well, screen printing was used um even back then.
27:46
SPEAKER_04: Like I I have a I have a mother-in-law that actually worked in a screen printing place in like the 60s and um they were they were screen printing wanted fabric back then, definitely.
27:57
SPEAKER_02: Okay, but um I think that's probably how this one was made then.
28:01
SPEAKER_02: It it has to have been.
28:02
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I'll I'll get in somehow in contact with you.
28:07
SPEAKER_02: I think on Instagram Christina said she's able to send or I mean her are able to send photos that way and she can view them, but when I send them to maybe like her phone, it doesn't, because the Android, I'm not a hundred percent sure, but yeah, I'll send them to you somehow so that you can actually see them.
28:24
SPEAKER_02: But I have a picture of like the dress laid out, and then I have a close-up picture of the pattern.
28:30
SPEAKER_02: So maybe that would I'm sure you'd probably be able to tell by looking at it.
28:35
SPEAKER_04: And like a lot of times women when they were like making their own dresses for like themselves or their children, they were just like going to like a like a craft store, like Joyan Fabrics or something like that, or whatever was popular back then, and picking up like actual like paper, um uh what are they called?
28:54
SPEAKER_04: Um patterns.
28:56
SPEAKER_04: Like usually like the big ones were like McCall's, you know, and it would come.
28:59
SPEAKER_04: It was like a little paper packet and it would have all the little pattern pieces in it.
29:04
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and they would just buy the thing.
29:08
SPEAKER_02: So I bought the dress and I also purchased packets of those dress patterns as well.
29:13
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, I know she definitely made she made all the clothes for sure, and you could tell.
29:18
SPEAKER_02: Like it seemed very special for that time.
29:22
SPEAKER_04: I don't know, but it just it I think a lot of women did for their families back then because things weren't so read readily available to purchase, and if it was, it was too expensive.
29:35
SPEAKER_04: So women saved a lot of money by making their own clothing for themselves and their children.
29:40
SPEAKER_04: And when you get into that, I feel like there's so much more like feeling and intention put into the article um that you're making by hand for someone that you love, you know.
29:51
SPEAKER_02: You're personalizing it for them.
29:53
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, than something that's just like mass-produced that you picked up at like Target or Walmart or something.
29:58
SPEAKER_02: And it's so sad that that time has changed for us that everything is so readily available because just thinking of that generation, if everyone was sewing, like my granny.
30:09
SPEAKER_02: My granny has passed it down to my mom, and my mom does some sewing, but it's like that is such it's so sad that people don't, you know, do that anymore, really.
30:20
SPEAKER_02: It's and it's funny.
30:23
SPEAKER_04: I also call my grandmother's granny.
30:27
SPEAKER_04: That's the first time I've heard somebody else say that.
30:29
SPEAKER_04: Oh, that's awesome.
30:30
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I call uh my mom and my grandma were both granny, they're just granny.
30:36
SPEAKER_04: But um, we're also my mom's side of the family is also from Missouri.
30:40
SPEAKER_04: Um, I grew up going there like every summer and every Thanksgiving to visit our family in Missouri.
30:46
SPEAKER_04: And they lived in um Knob Noster.
30:49
SPEAKER_04: I don't know if you've ever heard of it.
30:50
SPEAKER_02: I know exactly where that's at.
30:52
SPEAKER_02: That's so cool.
30:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because I live in Lawton, and that's close to Knob Noster.
30:56
SPEAKER_02: So that's really cool.
30:58
SPEAKER_04: So my grandfather was stationed on the Air Force base down there, and that's where she that's where he met my grandmother, and they were a very poor family that like lived on like a big like 200-acre um cattle farm.
31:13
SPEAKER_04: And um, you know, they they still used like a well in like the 90s, you know.
31:20
SPEAKER_04: So when we would yeah, when we would go there to like visit, there wasn't running water, like you had to go out to the well and bring in water to like fill the tub and to fill the toilet, and like it was crazy.
31:32
SPEAKER_04: Oh my gosh.
31:33
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it was crazy.
31:34
SPEAKER_04: But uh yeah, I spent a lot of time there when I was a little kid, but I don't really like remember it too much.
31:39
SPEAKER_04: I guess the last time I was there was maybe 10, you know.
31:44
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but I do remember like my grandfather was always obsessed with like UFOs and like outer space because he was in like the Air Force and he saw a lot of like really crazy things like being in you know the air.
32:00
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, he used to tell us stories all the time when we were little kids.
32:03
SPEAKER_04: Um I think just from being on that air force base down there for so long.
32:09
SPEAKER_04: And my mom knows more of the stories, I would have to ask her.
32:12
SPEAKER_04: But um, I always had a feeling that that area was kind of like creepy, a little weird, you know.
32:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there's like the there's like the knobnoster, and then is it the Whiteman Air Force Base?
32:26
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, Whiteman Air Force Base, yeah, that's it.
32:29
SPEAKER_02: That has so many and I and I'm realizing it now that's only it's only an hour from where I live.
32:36
SPEAKER_02: So really it's that's super yeah, it's super close.
32:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
32:40
SPEAKER_04: That's really cool.
32:41
SPEAKER_04: I would love to see that area again.
32:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I've heard a lot of a lot of crazy things, and I didn't realize how how big it was.
32:48
SPEAKER_02: Like it each space is like their own world.
32:51
SPEAKER_02: It's their own world.
32:52
SPEAKER_02: They have everything.
32:53
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
32:54
SPEAKER_04: So when you look when you look at the little tiny town of Knob Naster, the Air Force base is like, I don't know, eighty times bigger than just a little teeny tiny baby town.
33:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
33:05
SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh.
33:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I've heard a lot of crazy things coming in and out of there.
33:10
SPEAKER_02: And I've actually done a I don't know if she wants to put this in there or not, but I do like Google satellite imaging, and I found a fighter jet or something, and it had I'll have to send it to you guys.
33:23
SPEAKER_02: It's insane, but it I was very interested in the Whiteman Air Force Base after everyone's like, hey, have you had any of you know you've been having Sasquatch experience?
33:30
SPEAKER_02: Like, how close is it to an air force or to a base?
33:32
SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, Oh, if you hopped in a helicopter, you'd be at my place in no time from there.
33:38
SPEAKER_02: Like it's an hour's drive, so they would pop for no time.
33:42
SPEAKER_02: Um it's always so interesting.
33:44
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's always so interesting to me how like the Air Force bases or like any kind of government installation is always so close to all of these strange phenomena that we experience.
33:55
SPEAKER_04: Like there's definitely a correlation or a tie.
33:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we've seen unmarked black helicopters flying at extremely low um altitude over burr oak woods, like multiple times.
34:07
SPEAKER_02: Like I I always know that that's where it's going.
34:10
SPEAKER_02: It's always flying over burr oaks, which nobody's missing or that I know of, but it's just like my son was like, okay, I I see what you're saying now, and I'm like, I told you, buddy.
34:21
SPEAKER_02: Like they're probably an airport base.
34:24
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
34:25
SPEAKER_04: Christina, we were just talking about um how my family comes from Knob Noster, and it's like an hour outside of where she lives.
34:33
SPEAKER_04: We were talking about the Air Force base that's right there.
34:36
SPEAKER_01: Oh, cool.
34:36
SPEAKER_01: I was I was hoping that you guys would like make that connection because I wasn't sure where your family was from, Crystal.
34:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I didn't.
34:42
SPEAKER_04: I I look, you showed me where um you were from, and um I got on the maps and just kind of looked, and I was like, oh, she's very close, you know, so I I had a feeling you might know the town.
34:55
SPEAKER_02: Like me and you, Crystal, don't even know each other, and the fact that like we have this thing, that's so cool.
35:02
SPEAKER_04: Like uncanny connection.
35:04
SPEAKER_04: Like you could have been from anywhere in the country or the world, and you're from an hour of where my family was from that nobody's ever heard of, this tiny little nothing town, you know.
35:15
SPEAKER_02: And you spent time as a child there.
35:18
SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
35:19
SPEAKER_02: That's yeah, that's really cool.
35:20
SPEAKER_01: And the funny thing is too, like when you really think about it, like so.
35:23
SPEAKER_01: When people are telling all these like stories, you know, we always relate to like where we live.
35:28
SPEAKER_01: So like you're telling the story about like this random weird guy in like the park, and I'm thinking, I'm thinking about like you know, the park we go to, Crystal, where it's just like, okay, well, it's probably just some weird crackhead.
35:40
SPEAKER_01: Like, that's what we experience, you know.
35:42
SPEAKER_04: Or like it's definitely just some kind of like weird hobo or crackhead or something.
35:46
SPEAKER_04: Right.
35:47
SPEAKER_04: You know, there's nothing like that.
35:47
SPEAKER_04: Or like there's nothing really supernatural going on in there.
35:50
SPEAKER_01: If there's a helicopter, it's just it's just like the ghetto bird looking for somebody that like a big thing.
35:55
SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah, they're looking for somebody that robbed the local like liquor store.
35:59
SPEAKER_01: It's really not that.
36:00
SPEAKER_01: I mean, we're we're like we're right over the you know, the county line from Baltimore City.
36:05
SPEAKER_04: So we we're just we're so like Yeah, we we basically like sit right on the line between the city and the county.
36:13
SPEAKER_04: We like straddle it.
36:14
SPEAKER_04: So if you go take two steps this way or in the city, two steps that way you're in the county.
36:19
SPEAKER_01: That's why we're always desperate for people to come on our show, because we're just like, all right, well, there's no big foot here.
36:25
SPEAKER_01: Like there's no portals.
36:30
SPEAKER_01: Well, there could be.
36:32
SPEAKER_01: Well, you never know.
36:33
SPEAKER_02: You know, that's how I felt about Baroque because I'm not gonna and it's honestly strange, and I know we're about to hit the two marker, but it's yeah what in me finding these things and like the footprint and the the wing creature, it's led me on this history hunt, and I'm now finding that like there was a gentleman who owned this entire property before it was Baroque Woods, and he was a very like prominent person in his community.
37:00
SPEAKER_02: He um he unfortunately he had a lot of slaves, he had horses, um, just owned a lot of land.
37:07
SPEAKER_02: And this other gentleman who was from Kansas, he's like an infamous Civil War leader, his name's Quantrell, and he actually was planning to come with a bunch of Jayhawkers, and they were going to raid this guy's farm out there at Baroque Woods.
37:24
SPEAKER_02: And the guy had a change of heart and actually warned the family, befriended them, and still went through the act with these gentlemen, but knew that they were going to kill those men, and that's what ended up happening.
37:36
SPEAKER_02: They they shot and killed on the spot.
37:39
SPEAKER_02: Two of two of the men ran into Baroque Woods and hid out in the woods somewhere, and they were both killed on site.
37:46
SPEAKER_02: Two of them had escaped and got back to to Kansas, but that ultimately started a lot of um I didn't realize like there's a lot of history that people put down, or you know, these men did a really a lot of bad things.
38:02
SPEAKER_02: They were called the Quantrell's Raiders, but um, if people actually looked at the history and and saw what had been done to them, you know, they were reacting to things that were being done to them and their family members and people that they loved and cared about.
38:16
SPEAKER_02: Um and you know, they didn't make the best choices, but um it's history, whether you like it or not, you know, it's it's not pretty sometimes, but you know, if you don't if you don't remember it, you know, it's gonna repeat itself.
38:31
SPEAKER_02: But anyways, it's just it's been very interesting to find that like there there could be ghosts just out there wandering around, you know.
38:38
SPEAKER_02: There's rumored to be gold out there as well.
38:40
SPEAKER_02: They buried gold out there.
38:41
SPEAKER_02: Jesse James spent time out there multiple times.
38:45
SPEAKER_04: I mean, I was gonna tell you about that too.
38:48
SPEAKER_04: Um, there's like this old legend, and nobody knows if it's true or not, but there's this old legend that my family likes to tell is that Jesse James came to my family's farm and drank from their well and slept on their property in their barn.
39:02
SPEAKER_02: Like and that's what he would do.
39:04
SPEAKER_02: Yes, nobody would.
39:09
SPEAKER_02: He they said that they camped out there, they would just camp out there and and that it was like um it was a safe place for those that group of people because they were all together.
39:20
SPEAKER_02: Um he he Jesse James and his brother rode with Quantrell.
39:24
SPEAKER_02: Like they Okay.
39:26
SPEAKER_02: He Quantrell was this leader.
39:28
SPEAKER_02: Um it's just it's really sad because I mean, yes, they they were in a they were in a tough spot because it was like a border war between Kansas and Missouri.
39:36
SPEAKER_02: And yeah.
39:38
SPEAKER_01: Anybody that knows their history understands that stuff.
39:40
SPEAKER_01: Like everybody was in a crappy situation.
39:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and they were just doing what they thought was, you know, justice for their their family and and whatnot.
39:50
SPEAKER_02: But it it is interesting to know that there is you know, that history is out there, there is deaths out there, and I thought, okay, well, if I had gold out there and I was a ghost and I didn't have a house anymore, you know, I would still want to scare people away because like that's my property, that's my gold.
40:08
SPEAKER_02: So it's like almost like is this entity trying to appear like a person, but also scare the living daylights out of people to like get them to go away?
40:18
SPEAKER_02: Like, you know, there was one instance where all these car windows were broken out at the end of this time.
40:24
SPEAKER_02: And I remember asking this kid at this bird place I went to try to show my bird pictures, and he's like, I used to work there, and he was like, What you're describing he goes, We have had like a homeless person out there before.
40:36
SPEAKER_02: He's like, but what you're describing is not a homeless person.
40:40
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, No, this guy was like, he was bald, he was like average build, and just I I don't it had no hair, like I I don't know why the no hair thing is I want to know, I want to ask that guy who saw that other guy, like, did he have hair or not?
40:56
SPEAKER_02: Because like no.
41:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
41:02
SPEAKER_02: But it was almost like they didn't want to make the effort of like making hair.
41:05
SPEAKER_02: Like it was just like make a body, don't don't do don't overdo it.
41:10
SPEAKER_02: Just be bald.
41:11
SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't know.
41:14
SPEAKER_04: Well, it sounds to me too, like you definitely have some kind of like abilities, like whether it's like clair audience or clairvoyance, um, you definitely are tapped into the other side, the other realm.
41:25
SPEAKER_04: And um, I don't know if every normal like not normal, but if if every average person would see that if they were in there, would see that thing.
41:34
SPEAKER_04: Do you know what I mean?
41:35
SPEAKER_04: That man.
41:36
SPEAKER_04: Some people are just more open to that than others.
41:39
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, more sensitive.
41:40
SPEAKER_04: And um maybe you were just that right type of spirit or you know, person to be able to see that thing at that time.
41:48
unknown: Yeah.
41:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think you're I definitely think, and I think I kind of talked about this a little bit with Christina, but I I don't really like plan anything or do anything, and I I don't I'm not doing a lot of research on things that I could probably be doing.
42:02
SPEAKER_02: Like, I know my calling will come whenever it is, and I like that I don't force things, but I feel like there is something that I can do to be helping people.
42:11
SPEAKER_02: I already am helping people, but I feel like there's more that I could be doing, and I just don't know because I don't I don't know a lot of history about myself or my family.
42:20
SPEAKER_02: That's really kind of a big cloud of mystery, but I know that my great-grandma was extremely religious, and she was extremely religious for a specific reason.
42:31
SPEAKER_02: She would go to the mental institution a lot for voices, and I feel like she clung to her faith to keep whatever that was at a bay.
42:40
SPEAKER_02: Yep, and um, and I feel like I'm going down like maybe that same path, not that I hear voices, but just like I just know I have something that's more than I'm very sensitive.
42:52
SPEAKER_02: Like on honestly, I'm just very and that's why people are like, Well, are you a medium?
42:56
SPEAKER_02: Are you I'm like I don't label myself.
42:58
SPEAKER_02: I just if I have a message to give to people, I give it.
43:01
SPEAKER_02: Sometimes it bothers me so bad that I just do it because whatever that spirit or thing that's trying to tell me to tell people I don't like doing that, I really don't because it makes people really uncomfortable.
43:13
SPEAKER_02: So I try not to do that, but sometimes it's so overwhelming that I just have I just have to say it and then I'm like, sorry, gotta go.
43:21
SPEAKER_04: Well, you're you're definitely tapped in and you definitely have a gift, I believe.
43:26
SPEAKER_04: And you're using it to the best ability that you know how.
43:29
SPEAKER_04: And I think that's all you can do, and it kind of ties in, you know.
43:34
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
43:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like I mean, definitely, I agree, and I think that also think about like the whole collecting, like tying in with your grandmother, you know.
43:42
SPEAKER_01: I don't not say she's collecting voices, but it's the same sort of thing.
43:46
SPEAKER_01: You know, she was something was coming to her, and she was dealing with it the way that she knew how to deal with it.
43:53
SPEAKER_01: Um same thing with you you're going to these you're feeling drawn to these places, and for what Whatever reason things are either like attaching or you know, something now that gets into a gray area, a blurry area.
44:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, I mean, but for sure there's a connection there, you know.
44:14
SPEAKER_04: So I definitely, yeah, just um keep yourself safe, you know.
44:20
SPEAKER_04: Um, I don't know how much you believe in whatever you believe in, you know.
44:25
SPEAKER_04: Maybe just um try to keep I don't know, try to keep yourself safe.
44:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
44:30
SPEAKER_01: I definitely wouldn't do things alone anymore, I think for sure.
44:33
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
44:34
SPEAKER_04: Take someone with you.
44:36
SPEAKER_04: You don't want to fall through a floor.
44:37
SPEAKER_02: No, that's hard to say the one time I went out to that place and that burned house.
44:44
SPEAKER_02: I did, I fell, and it's funny, but like my butt stopped me from going all the way through.
44:51
SPEAKER_02: And it was like, now it's funny to think that, but in the moment I was just like, I could have been in the bottom of that basement with broken legs, and like no one would have known.
45:02
SPEAKER_02: No one would have known.
45:02
SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh, it's horrible.
45:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
45:06
SPEAKER_01: You would have died in a basement on the floor.
45:08
SPEAKER_01: It's awful.
45:09
SPEAKER_02: But honestly, it would have just like it no one would have been shocked.
45:15
SPEAKER_02: Oh man.
45:16
SPEAKER_02: That's awful.
45:16
SPEAKER_02: They knew how much I love abandoned buildings, so they would be like, she died doing what she loved.
45:25
SPEAKER_04: It wasn't your time.
45:26
SPEAKER_04: There wasn't your time.
45:27
SPEAKER_04: No.
45:28
SPEAKER_04: Your butt saved you.
45:29
SPEAKER_04: Really?
45:30
SPEAKER_01: Thank God.
45:31
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
45:32
SPEAKER_01: On that macabre note.
45:35
SPEAKER_01: I think um what we're probably gonna do is I'm probably gonna cut this up into a part one and part two.
45:40
SPEAKER_01: Um, because I don't think we've we've never like had over a two-hour with everyone says that when they talk to me.
45:47
SPEAKER_02: Every single perfect.
45:49
SPEAKER_01: We have so many good stories.
45:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, oh thank you.
45:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's I love talking to both of you.
45:54
SPEAKER_02: Like it, I I hope I get to talk to you guys again and just yeah, definitely.
45:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm gonna give you how much people to reach out to and like it was so nice meeting you.
46:04
SPEAKER_02: Like I've been talking with Christina, but I it's so nice to meet you, Crystal.
46:08
SPEAKER_02: Like it was nice to meet you too.
46:09
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I really enjoyed talking to you.
46:11
SPEAKER_04: I wished I wouldn't have had so many stupid issues, but um, I want to do this again, um, you know, so we can dive more into it.
46:19
SPEAKER_04: I feel like we just kind of like scratched the surface, and I would love to get to know you better.
46:23
SPEAKER_04: You know, we can talk about all of our things.
46:25
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
46:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
46:26
SPEAKER_01: We'll give you homework assignments too, because there's a lot of stuff, and we'll start looking into some stuff for you too.
46:31
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you can give us some homework assignments.
46:33
SPEAKER_04: We have abandoned stuff around here.
46:35
SPEAKER_04: We're not as brave as you are though.
46:37
SPEAKER_04: No.
46:40
SPEAKER_04: Maybe we're gonna cut that off.
46:44
SPEAKER_04: I have to make somebody else go.
46:46
SPEAKER_04: Here, take my camera, you go.
46:50
SPEAKER_02: I'll wait outside.
46:51
SPEAKER_02: I'll be the lookout.
46:53
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
46:55
SPEAKER_01: No, no way.
46:56
SPEAKER_01: I'm not doing that.
46:56
SPEAKER_01: I was just on uh podcast yesterday um talking about I was telling my Gettysburg story, and I was like, I'll never do that.
47:05
SPEAKER_01: I'm not brave.
47:06
SPEAKER_01: Nope.
47:07
SPEAKER_04: Well me my husband and I we like to do we like to do spooky stuff, but like we went to um the eastern state penitentiary on like a historical tour, and there's people everywhere, so you're not really in there by yourself and you feel safe.
47:22
SPEAKER_04: And then we went to uh Pennhurst.
47:25
SPEAKER_04: Penhurst is home.
47:26
SPEAKER_04: That was really cool in um Pennsylvania.
47:30
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, two Pennsylvania places, but um, same thing.
47:32
SPEAKER_04: It was like a historical tour, so you're not by yourself, but you still get to like go in there, and there was like these old women that were nurses there when it was open, and they were able to like tell us all the stories about the people that lived there, and it wasn't so scary because they were just like telling us real stories about real people that lived there, and they were like, These are real human beings, they're not ghosts, they're not demons, they were people, yeah, and it just gave it like a really like human spin to like something that you look that you're like, Oh, this is so creepy and haunted.
48:03
SPEAKER_04: And they were like, No, it's more than that.
48:06
SPEAKER_04: There's actual like real people that lived here.
48:08
SPEAKER_04: So that was really cool.
48:09
SPEAKER_04: That was like a really nice history thing that we did.
48:12
SPEAKER_04: Perspective, yeah.
48:13
SPEAKER_02: Like yeah, that's kind of what they did at the Missouri State Penitentiary.
48:16
SPEAKER_02: It's um old guards, and one of them was a warden.
48:20
SPEAKER_02: Like we had a warden and we had two prison guards that they took the time, they took eight hours of their weekend because we paid, and they show they just basically showed us around and told us stories about like the living, and they told us stories that they had with the the the the ghosts around there, which was neat because they you know they thought we were crazy though.
48:44
SPEAKER_02: Like we brought in uh I brought in like an old 1900s like wheelchair, I brought a strait jacket, we brought hatchets.
48:51
SPEAKER_02: The guy was like, You guys are nuts.
48:53
SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, we're gonna have a party, okay?
48:58
SPEAKER_04: I can't wait to look at all your photography.
49:00
SPEAKER_04: Oh, thank you.
49:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
49:02
SPEAKER_01: So, Alex, tell everybody, um, I think what we might have to do next time is like maybe we'll do like a live or something, and we can just like have like field a bunch of questions that people might have and we could just like live stream.
49:13
SPEAKER_01: That'd be cool.
49:14
SPEAKER_01: I think that would be kind of fun.
49:15
SPEAKER_01: Um, but so why don't we put a pin on it tonight?
49:20
SPEAKER_01: Um and then we can definitely we'll have you back on.
49:23
SPEAKER_01: Um, how can people find your photography and find you?
49:29
SPEAKER_02: I am only on Instagram, I don't have Facebook, I don't have anything.
49:33
SPEAKER_02: My Instagram's the only thing I have, so that's like my portfolio for my photos, and then like I share reels of like any documentary or just anything that I find inspirational.
49:44
SPEAKER_02: Um, it's funny because a lot of people have been following me for all the Jesus stuff that I've been posting, but they might get a plot twist here soon when they see me post something else, but hopefully, hopefully it'll be okay.
49:57
SPEAKER_02: But I post I post about my life and about my faith.
50:02
SPEAKER_02: And and if you don't want to follow me, then you don't have to follow me.
50:05
SPEAKER_02: But I share the coolest, like just all the documentaries I watch, I share little clips of those.
50:10
SPEAKER_02: Um I've been in doing those those are really cool.
50:13
SPEAKER_02: Oh my god, that's my favorite.
50:14
SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah, my son was like, You you sit here and you watch movies and you say, Oh, that'd be a funny reel, or that'd be a funny thing to post.
50:20
SPEAKER_02: And he's like, Why don't you just actually start doing it, Mom?
50:23
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, you know what, I should.
50:25
SPEAKER_02: And so I started doing that, and that's actually what's I only had like 5,000 followers like seven months ago.
50:34
SPEAKER_02: And now I'm almost, yeah, I just hit like 15,000.
50:39
SPEAKER_02: So it's really yeah, it's really neat because like you gotta make you gotta laugh about things.
50:44
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I post serious stuff and I post like my research, but I make jokes about stuff sometimes.
50:50
SPEAKER_02: So if I I find a funny Sasquatch, like there's this one video where this guy was talking about someone found a Sasquatch butt print or something, and like I couldn't pass that one up.
51:01
SPEAKER_02: I was like, oh, this is gonna be a good reel.
51:04
SPEAKER_02: Like you guys, but um, so just like funny stuff, but you can find me.
51:09
SPEAKER_02: It's A-S-H-A-E underscore photography.
51:14
SPEAKER_02: So H A underscore photography.
51:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I bought it.
51:18
SPEAKER_02: I love that's my favorite.
51:20
SPEAKER_02: Like, people say your personality is what you you use social media wise, and I am I am definitely Instagram.
51:27
SPEAKER_02: Like, I can't do Facebook, I just can't, and Instagram seems to be my community of people that I've found.
51:33
SPEAKER_02: I have more people on Instagram that support me than people in my real life.
51:37
SPEAKER_02: Um I just don't have a lot of support, and so it's nice finding a community of people who support me.
51:43
SPEAKER_02: I support them, like I just love supporting everybody, sharing everybody's stuff.
51:47
SPEAKER_02: You know, it's just growing as a community, being collectively aware of things, and helping other people be more aware of things and just open-minded.
51:56
SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't like negativity, so if you come with negativity on my page, you will be blocked.
52:01
SPEAKER_02: I don't even care.
52:02
SPEAKER_02: I just you didn't like that block.
52:04
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, I don't need that follow, I don't need that comment on my stuff.
52:08
SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't care.
52:09
SPEAKER_02: Like, it's not about that, it's just about positivity and and just exploring the world together, basically.
52:17
SPEAKER_02: I love that.
52:17
SPEAKER_04: Well, we're here to support you.
52:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I love that.
52:20
SPEAKER_02: I'm here to support you girls too.
52:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, thank you so much, Alex, for coming on.
52:24
SPEAKER_01: Um, so yeah, until next time.
52:27
SPEAKER_01: Bye.
52:28
SPEAKER_01: Bye.
52:41
SPEAKER_01: You have been listening to Sasquatch and Sourdough.
52:44
SPEAKER_01: I'm Christina, and thank you so much for tuning in.
52:47
SPEAKER_01: Sasquatch and Sourdough is so much more than just a podcast.
52:51
SPEAKER_01: We're a community of kindred spirits united by our curiosity and fascination with the extraordinary.
52:57
SPEAKER_01: And we want to bring you into the conversation.
53:00
SPEAKER_01: So whether you've had a brush with the unexplainable, seen something that you can't quite wrap your head around, this is your space.
53:09
SPEAKER_01: We invite you to join us as we break bread and break down the barriers between the known and the unknown.
53:15
SPEAKER_01: If you want to share your story, you can email us at sasquatch and sourdough at gmail.com or send us a DM on Instagram.
53:23
SPEAKER_01: Until next time, remember the truth is out there, God is with you, and everyone always ends up in the kitchen.