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- 0:10Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large Nerdron Collider podcast, a
- 0:13Speaker 1: podcast that's all about the geek things happening in the
- 0:16Speaker 1: world around us and how very excited we are about them.
- 0:19Speaker 1: I'm Ariel Caston and with me as always is looks
- 0:23Speaker 1: super cool Jonathan Strickland.
- 0:25Speaker 2: I am full of breakfast tacos.
- 0:29Speaker 1: I am becoming full of gushers and coffee. It feels
- 0:32Speaker 1: like a real Friday.
- 0:34Speaker 2: Yeah, gushers and coffee the go to snack of psychotics
- 0:40Speaker 2: like Ariel I have.
- 0:43Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a real meal after this.
- 0:45Speaker 2: Uh huh, all right, well, yeah, I'm glad. You know,
- 0:48Speaker 2: maybe you throw some flaming hot Cheetos in the mix
- 0:51Speaker 2: or something you want.
- 0:53Speaker 1: To kill me.
- 0:54Speaker 2: I'm just saying like you're already picking such terrible foods.
- 0:58Speaker 2: Uh No, I had. I had tacos from Torchies this morning.
- 1:03Speaker 2: Breakfast tacos from Torchies. I am still riding high that
- 1:07Speaker 2: Atlanta finally has a torcheese location, because I got hooked
- 1:11Speaker 2: on that back in Austin, Texas whenever I would visit. Granted,
- 1:16Speaker 2: the torcheese of today is not the same as what
- 1:21Speaker 2: it was the first time I went and I understand
- 1:23Speaker 2: there were some folks in Austin who used to be
- 1:27Speaker 2: big fans of Torchies who have since turned on it
- 1:30Speaker 2: because it has changed so much. I maintain it's still
- 1:33Speaker 2: pretty good at the breakfast tacos. Like, you don't get
- 1:37Speaker 2: a lot of breakfast tacos in Atlanta. There are a
- 1:39Speaker 2: couple places that do them, but not many. So yeah,
- 1:43Speaker 2: I was happy to get breakfast tacos again.
- 1:46Speaker 1: I wonder if I could get them delivered here. They're
- 1:49Speaker 1: a bit far for a morning breakfast drive for me
- 1:51Speaker 1: unless I don't have work afterwards. But what you would
- 1:54Speaker 1: sound good?
- 1:55Speaker 2: You would think that they wouldn't come all the way
- 1:56Speaker 2: down here, Like I was surprised that the it's like
- 2:01Speaker 2: a half hour, well maybe more like twenty minute drive
- 2:04Speaker 2: from where I live to where the Torches is because
- 2:07Speaker 2: I don't I live in the city of Atlanta. We
- 2:10Speaker 2: don't get a lot of chains like here. Like it's
- 2:14Speaker 2: it's even rare to find fast food. There are some
- 2:17Speaker 2: in little pockets, but you're more likely to find, you know,
- 2:21Speaker 2: independently owned restaurants, which is awesome. I love that, but
- 2:24Speaker 2: it does mean that if you do happen to get
- 2:27Speaker 2: addicted to say Torchies Tacos or Nando's Peri Pierrie Chicken,
- 2:34Speaker 2: that when a location finally does move into the metro
- 2:37Speaker 2: Atlanta area, you can almost guarantee it's going to be
- 2:40Speaker 2: at least a half hour drive to get there.
- 2:42Speaker 1: Hey, at least if you come to the Perimeter Nandos
- 2:45Speaker 1: you're near me, you all could be like hey, and
- 2:48Speaker 1: I could be like, I can also sit there while
- 2:51Speaker 1: you eat chicken that I cannot eat, but you could.
- 2:54Speaker 2: You could get the You could get the so called
- 2:56Speaker 2: plane chicken which is still marinated and stuff, though I
- 3:00Speaker 2: would probably still make you sick.
- 3:02Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I've had Perry Perry chicken before.
- 3:04Speaker 1: We used to have like a bone Heads or something
- 3:08Speaker 1: like that that was pretty good nearby, and I'd get
- 3:11Speaker 1: the mild. But I have become more sensitive to Pepper's
- 3:14Speaker 1: in general, so I'd have to be careful.
- 3:17Speaker 2: Maybe what we do is we order like a plane
- 3:21Speaker 2: one and then you just try a little piece and
- 3:23Speaker 2: see if it's something that agrees with you, and otherwise
- 3:27Speaker 2: we load you up on sides that aren't going to
- 3:31Speaker 2: affect your various allergies and sensitivities and whatnot.
- 3:35Speaker 1: That works Also, I know we said that we likely
- 3:38Speaker 1: weren't recording this week. Everybody I had travel plans. They
- 3:42Speaker 1: have been postponed, so who knows when that's going to happen.
- 3:45Speaker 1: A totally reasonable post moment. I'm happy to be recording today,
- 3:49Speaker 1: but in our in our long standing history of comedy
- 3:54Speaker 1: of errors recording, I do instead have housework being done
- 3:58Speaker 1: in my house today, So if you hear background noise,
- 4:01Speaker 1: we tried our best.
- 4:02Speaker 2: Which may or may not come from aerial side because
- 4:05Speaker 2: I live in a townhouse, so one of my neighbors
- 4:07Speaker 2: is having their roof done so today, so we have
- 4:12Speaker 2: construction going on both ends of the podcast. We will
- 4:15Speaker 2: see if that impacts us at all. Maybe we'll be lucky.
- 4:19Speaker 1: If we had been like I can hear them right now,
- 4:21Speaker 1: If we had planned better and known that this was
- 4:24Speaker 1: happening and not last minute decided to record today, we
- 4:28Speaker 1: could have talked about nineties nostalgia and called it the
- 4:30Speaker 1: Home improvement episode.
- 4:32Speaker 2: Or we could have actually made attempts to meet in
- 4:36Speaker 2: person somewhere and record in the same space for the
- 4:40Speaker 2: first time in years.
- 4:43Speaker 1: It's gonna happen. We just need to remember to like
- 4:45Speaker 1: talk about it. Offline.
- 4:47Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're doing an episode. It's funny because I
- 4:52Speaker 2: was putting together stuff for next week's episode what would
- 4:57Speaker 2: be next week's episode, because I had assumed we weren't
- 5:01Speaker 2: going to record this week, so I was like just
- 5:04Speaker 2: putting stuff in as almost like a placeholder, because by
- 5:06Speaker 2: the time another week goes by, stuff that was relevant
- 5:10Speaker 2: often is like old news. That's how fast the world moves.
- 5:14Speaker 2: So I was just doing it so that if there
- 5:16Speaker 2: were anything that happened this week, we would have a
- 5:19Speaker 2: chance to talk about it. Turns out like every week
- 5:22Speaker 2: more stuff popped up than I had anticipated, so we've
- 5:26Speaker 2: got quite a few things to talk about before that. However,
- 5:30Speaker 2: we typically talk about stuff that we have watched or
- 5:35Speaker 2: read or listened to or whatever that we want to
- 5:40Speaker 2: share when we get together. So Ariel, was there anything
- 5:44Speaker 2: that you saw that you want to talk about?
- 5:48Speaker 1: I After Midnight is back. Zach O Yama from Dropout
- 5:54Speaker 1: was on it. Sadly like Zacho Yama, I think is
- 6:00Speaker 1: one of the funniest comedians on Dimension twenty and oftentimes
- 6:07Speaker 1: drop Out. He's got really good comedic timing and sense
- 6:11Speaker 1: of what is funny to say in which situations However,
- 6:16Speaker 1: on After Midnight, I felt like the games weren't that strong,
- 6:20Speaker 1: so he didn't really get to shine, but it was
- 6:23Speaker 1: still really cool seeing him on there. Because of course
- 6:27Speaker 1: Dimension twenty and Critical Role both got featured in The
- 6:30Speaker 1: Times recently, the Times magazine on a piece about dungeons
- 6:34Speaker 1: and Dragons, which is really really cool. So I watched that,
- 6:38Speaker 1: and then I'm still working through Kevin kin f Himself,
- 6:43Speaker 1: which is still remaining to be very good and it's
- 6:46Speaker 1: interesting watching people grow and how they move through the
- 6:49Speaker 1: story differently. And this weekend I'm going to try to
- 6:53Speaker 1: watch Agatha all along.
- 6:56Speaker 2: I'm also going to try and watch that. This weekend.
- 6:58Speaker 2: I did watch the first episode of The Penguin, which
- 7:02Speaker 2: of course is the spinoff series from The Batman.
- 7:09Speaker 1: Not Gotham and not Pennywise.
- 7:11Speaker 2: Just to be clear, right, not that not those variations
- 7:14Speaker 2: on the DC universe. We're talking about the Robert Pattinson
- 7:18Speaker 2: Batman version of the character and the Colin Ferrell version
- 7:23Speaker 2: of the Penguin. Uh. I will say this, I think
- 7:28Speaker 2: the show is well done. Like you, you know, you
- 7:32Speaker 2: had real issues with the Riddler, the variation of the
- 7:35Speaker 2: Riddler in The Batman. I have real. I like the
- 7:39Speaker 2: Riddler in The Batman thought I thought that was an
- 7:41Speaker 2: intriguing version of that character.
- 7:44Speaker 1: I know you called Dano a lot.
- 7:46Speaker 2: I just yeah, no, I get it. But like I
- 7:49Speaker 2: liked the Zodiac style dark, super dark version of the Riddler,
- 7:54Speaker 2: I thought that was interesting. I do not like this
- 7:58Speaker 2: version of the Penguins simply because he doesn't seem that
- 8:02Speaker 2: different from any standard gangster. Like there's nothing that sets
- 8:08Speaker 2: him apart other than he has a weird walk because
- 8:11Speaker 2: he's got a gammy leg and he's got a scarred
- 8:16Speaker 2: face that makes him a little disfigured. But he's not,
- 8:20Speaker 2: like you know, he's not particularly intelligent. He's very cunning,
- 8:26Speaker 2: he's incredibly cunning, but he's not super smart. He makes
- 8:33Speaker 2: really bad decisions, like playing different sides against each other,
- 8:38Speaker 2: And like anyone looking at this, if you were privy
- 8:41Speaker 2: to it, if you were there in the room when
- 8:43Speaker 2: he makes these decisions, you'd say, this is ultimately going
- 8:46Speaker 2: to hurt you. This is unsustainable, and when the cards
- 8:50Speaker 2: fall down, you're gonna be stuck and there is no
- 8:55Speaker 2: good outcome to what you are doing right now. Like
- 8:57Speaker 2: I think it's pretty clear, and so it's weird watching
- 9:01Speaker 2: a show where your protagonist is so deeply flawed that
- 9:07Speaker 2: you're really just waiting to see a Like does he
- 9:10Speaker 2: succeed despite himself? That might be how this ends, like
- 9:13Speaker 2: if he's actually going to become a power figure. The
- 9:17Speaker 2: one interesting thing is that he does romanticize mobsters, and
- 9:23Speaker 2: he thinks of them as potentially like a pillar of
- 9:27Speaker 2: the community, like a savior almost so in the very beginning,
- 9:32Speaker 2: he's looking out over Gotham while the seawall is collapsing,
- 9:37Speaker 2: because that happens in the Batman, and like he's he's
- 9:45Speaker 2: deeply moved by this, Like he wants to help people,
- 9:50Speaker 2: but to do so outside the realm of law and
- 9:53Speaker 2: in ways that cement his standing in the community. Like
- 9:57Speaker 2: you get a feeling like a big part of his
- 9:59Speaker 2: motivation that he desires to be loved and revered.
- 10:04Speaker 1: So like I've never viewed the penguin as a particularly
- 10:08Speaker 1: successful villain. I like him. I feel like the most
- 10:13Speaker 1: successful he has ever been, or I should say the
- 10:16Speaker 1: most successful the penguin has ever been was in the
- 10:19Speaker 1: old Adam West Batman and then in the new Amazon
- 10:23Speaker 1: Prime Batman Caped Crusader cartoon where the penguin is a woman,
- 10:29Speaker 1: and I feel like those are the two most successful
- 10:32Speaker 1: versions of the penguin. I've always considered the penguin. I
- 10:36Speaker 1: don't I don't know why. It's kind of not the
- 10:40Speaker 1: bane of the villain group, but like closer to Baane
- 10:45Speaker 1: than let's say, uh, Lex Luthor or the Joker.
- 10:50Speaker 2: I mean, Baane is the bane of the villain group.
- 10:52Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what I mean, like kind of
- 10:55Speaker 1: on the lower regarded side.
- 10:58Speaker 2: I think it depends. I think it depends on the era, right,
- 11:01Speaker 2: because like in some versions Penguin, like when it was
- 11:04Speaker 2: in the really campy phase, when Batman was like in
- 11:06Speaker 2: the super campy phase like the sixties and early seventies,
- 11:10Speaker 2: then all the Batman villains were cartoon versions of bad guys, right,
- 11:15Speaker 2: So like.
- 11:15Speaker 1: Yeah, but he was still successful there.
- 11:17Speaker 2: Right, right. But what I'm saying is that Penguin in
- 11:19Speaker 2: that case was a joke because like all of his
- 11:22Speaker 2: crimes involved trying to steal artwork that related to birds, right,
- 11:27Speaker 2: like the jeweled statue of an eagle or something. That
- 11:31Speaker 2: was always the gag. But there are other eras of
- 11:35Speaker 2: Batman where the penguin is essentially a crime boss, which
- 11:39Speaker 2: is kind of the story they're trying to tell in
- 11:42Speaker 2: the Penguin, except he's not there at crime boss levels.
- 11:47Speaker 2: He's like foot soldier, or maybe actually a higher than
- 11:51Speaker 2: foot soldier. He's a kind of like middle management in
- 11:57Speaker 2: the crime organization. I think it's well done. I think
- 12:03Speaker 2: Colin Farrell is doing a really good job in the
- 12:08Speaker 2: in the performance, I think his performance is great. I'm
- 12:11Speaker 2: not crazy about the character, but it's not because of
- 12:15Speaker 2: his performance. That's just because the way they've decided to
- 12:18Speaker 2: frame this character in this version of Batman. And you know,
- 12:23Speaker 2: we had talked back when we were watching the previews
- 12:26Speaker 2: for this that it kind of looked like Sopranos but
- 12:30Speaker 2: in Gotham, and I don't think it's quite that level.
- 12:33Speaker 2: It's it's not as nuanced as Sopranos, but it's entertaining.
- 12:38Speaker 2: So I think it's well done. I just I'm just
- 12:40Speaker 2: not crazy about this version of the character.
- 12:45Speaker 1: Yeah, I I also don't like I think Colin Ferrell
- 12:51Speaker 1: does an amazing job as the Penguin, just because he's unrecognizable.
- 12:55Speaker 1: Part of that is because they've put him in a
- 12:57Speaker 1: fat suit. And I also am just not a fan
- 13:01Speaker 1: of that so much. Like Diego in Umbrella Academy season three,
- 13:07Speaker 1: and this isn't a spoiler, Jonathan don't worry had a
- 13:12Speaker 1: period of the show where they wanted him to be
- 13:14Speaker 1: a little overweight, and they gave him the option of
- 13:16Speaker 1: wearing a fat suit or trying on trying to put
- 13:20Speaker 1: some weight on, and since it wasn't for the entire season,
- 13:23Speaker 1: you know, he opted for Spatsude. I think stuff like
- 13:26Speaker 1: that is okay. I know sometimes gaining oftentimes gaining a
- 13:31Speaker 1: lot of weight or losing a lot of weight for
- 13:32Speaker 1: a role can be detrimental to your body. And I
- 13:34Speaker 1: wish that people had to lose weight less for their roles,
- 13:39Speaker 1: and the only reason that they would lose weight is
- 13:41Speaker 1: for their mental and physical well being if they need it.
- 13:46Speaker 1: But I say this as a plus sized woman, But
- 13:51Speaker 1: also there are people the penguin is not even like
- 13:55Speaker 1: that that heavy. You know, they could have found an
- 13:59Speaker 1: actor who more embodies that physical attribute.
- 14:03Speaker 2: So yeah, I can definitely see the argument there. I mean,
- 14:08Speaker 2: it's it's tough because there's also the argument that the
- 14:14Speaker 2: star power is one of the selling points for the series, right, Like,
- 14:18Speaker 2: it's not just it's a good actor playing the penguin,
- 14:20Speaker 2: it's this specific actor, yeah, but you.
- 14:23Speaker 1: Can't even tell it's that specific actor. And they have
- 14:26Speaker 1: a lot of other star power like Clancy Brown and
- 14:28Speaker 1: Mark Strong and Kristin Melodi.
- 14:31Speaker 2: Right, but they're not playing the penguin.
- 14:34Speaker 1: Although I did have a theory that Kristin Malodi was
- 14:37Speaker 1: actually going to be the big powerhouse in this series.
- 14:40Speaker 2: She's yeah, she's It's interesting because I think they have
- 14:45Speaker 2: combined Sophia Falcone with Albert Falcone from the comics, because
- 14:53Speaker 2: in the comics, Albert Falcone is not just a potential
- 14:58Speaker 2: heir to the Falcone Dinah, he's also like a homicidal murderer,
- 15:03Speaker 2: and that doesn't seem to be the case in this version.
- 15:07Speaker 2: But Sophia Falcone when she shows up, reveals that she
- 15:11Speaker 2: had been an Arkham and that she's been released from Arkham,
- 15:15Speaker 2: But they haven't said why she was sent to Arkham,
- 15:18Speaker 2: Like that hasn't been revealed yet, And I'm like, is
- 15:21Speaker 2: it going to turn out that she she's the homicidal killer?
- 15:25Speaker 2: But then why would she get released? Like you would
- 15:27Speaker 2: figure that if you're a homicideal killer, you're probably not
- 15:30Speaker 2: going to be released even on good behavior.
- 15:33Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah. Also, I'm seeing in like on the IMDb
- 15:37Speaker 1: page versus the movie page for The Batman, that there
- 15:40Speaker 1: is a character in both of the both of them
- 15:42Speaker 1: that has been recast, Carmine Falcone.
- 15:46Speaker 2: Yeah. Well Carmine's dead, so dead. Yeah, so that's why
- 15:50Speaker 2: they don't. They didn't bring the actor back to play
- 15:52Speaker 2: a dead version of Carmine. They might be that they're showing,
- 15:56Speaker 2: like in flashbacks, a younger Carmine. Gotcha, that might that
- 16:00Speaker 2: might happen because I could see that because he's he
- 16:03Speaker 2: dies in The Batman, so you don't we don't get him,
- 16:07Speaker 2: at least not the same version in the Penguin. He
- 16:10Speaker 2: doesn't show up in that first episode as far as
- 16:13Speaker 2: I could recall anyway, Gotcha. There are some things in
- 16:18Speaker 2: that first episode that are that made me shake my
- 16:22Speaker 2: head a little bit, But overall I enjoyed it, So
- 16:25Speaker 2: I don't think it's the best thing ever, but it's
- 16:28Speaker 2: enough for me to watch the next episode.
- 16:30Speaker 1: That's good. That's positive to hear. Because Gotham was a slog.
- 16:35Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, I could. I tried watching Gotham in
- 16:38Speaker 2: about halfway through the first season. I was like, this
- 16:42Speaker 2: is so ridiculous, Like so over the top ridiculous. It's
- 16:47Speaker 2: lost me because I think it was specifically Fish Mooney.
- 16:50Speaker 2: Fish Mooney's character was just so like chew the scenery ridiculous.
- 16:55Speaker 2: I could not stick with it.
- 16:57Speaker 1: Yeah, we just had some I agree with. We've talked
- 17:00Speaker 1: about it before. There were just some tonal like if
- 17:02Speaker 1: everybody was a campy, if it was very Adam West,
- 17:04Speaker 1: it would have been fine. But there were also people
- 17:06Speaker 1: who were very very mainstream. Interesting thing. The guy who
- 17:11Speaker 1: played the penguin on Gotham, yeah, I thought was a
- 17:15Speaker 1: perfectly fine actor, plays a supporting character. And Kevin kinef
- 17:19Speaker 1: himself and it took me a while to recognize him.
- 17:21Speaker 1: But he's fantastic in.
- 17:22Speaker 2: It, I know, I know. I also saw that he's
- 17:25Speaker 2: doing a voice in something. I can't remember now what
- 17:28Speaker 2: it was, but I do remember, like when I heard
- 17:30Speaker 2: about that, I was like, oh, it's that guy I
- 17:31Speaker 2: didn't know. And then the next time I saw a
- 17:34Speaker 2: clip from whatever it was I listened for, I'm like, oh, yeah,
- 17:37Speaker 2: now I can hear it. Yeah, but it was one
- 17:39Speaker 2: of those his voice isn't quite distinctive enough to me
- 17:43Speaker 2: yet for me to just be able to pick it
- 17:45Speaker 2: out so but yeah, that was I'd say, if you
- 17:50Speaker 2: have Max, go ahead and watch the first episode of
- 17:53Speaker 2: the Penguin, you'll know whether or not this is something
- 17:55Speaker 2: that you want to stick with, or if you are,
- 17:58Speaker 2: you're like, no, I've seen enough, and I don't think
- 18:00Speaker 2: there's a right or wrong call on that. It's up
- 18:03Speaker 2: to personal preference. The one other thing I did listen
- 18:07Speaker 2: to this week that is geeky as I listened to
- 18:10Speaker 2: the episode zero of the new Adventure Zone series, which
- 18:15Speaker 2: is their Abnables series. So, so the idea is that
- 18:20Speaker 2: all the characters are anthropomorphic animal people, kind of like
- 18:27Speaker 2: you know, teenage mutant Ninja turtles are like that, or
- 18:31Speaker 2: the Cowboys of Moo Mesa or so it's like mostly
- 18:35Speaker 2: it's like Saturday Morning cartoon characters. Well, these are all
- 18:41Speaker 2: animals that are humanoid and they don't transform, no, like
- 18:47Speaker 2: teenage mutant ninja turtles or the Cowboys of movies Battle
- 18:54Speaker 2: Toad or Yeah. So I listened to the episode zero
- 18:59Speaker 2: of that, and it was cute like Travis McElroy is
- 19:04Speaker 2: running the game and Griffin Justin and Clint McElroy are
- 19:09Speaker 2: the players, and so episode zero introduced all the characters
- 19:14Speaker 2: and sort of the game world, and I enjoyed what
- 19:19Speaker 2: I heard. I don't know, I have never stuck. The
- 19:23Speaker 2: only season of Adventure Zone I've ever stuck with all
- 19:27Speaker 2: the way through was the first one I have not
- 19:30Speaker 2: listened to one all the way through.
- 19:31Speaker 1: Since I really enjoyed the problem is that Griffin is
- 19:36Speaker 1: just such an amazing DM, and the characters that they
- 19:40Speaker 1: accidentally created for the Adventure Zone ended up being so
- 19:44Speaker 1: robust that it's hard to recreate that initial magic. Right.
- 19:51Speaker 1: But the second one that Griffin did, the one that
- 19:54Speaker 1: was Monsters of the Week and very like Cryptid based,
- 19:59Speaker 1: was also quite good. I thought. I enjoyed I think
- 20:02Speaker 1: both seasons of that.
- 20:05Speaker 2: He also recently did the Adventure Zone Kills Dracula like
- 20:09Speaker 2: he was the game master for that one, and I
- 20:11Speaker 2: listened to the first few episodes, but I think the
- 20:13Speaker 2: game mechanics actually eventually got so bogged down that I
- 20:18Speaker 2: didn't care to listen to anymore.
- 20:20Speaker 1: Gotcha, I will listen to this one. I think that
- 20:25Speaker 1: Travis becomes a stronger DM with each game that he dms,
- 20:28Speaker 1: which is you know the case for most people, right.
- 20:30Speaker 2: Sure, Yeah, yeah, you learn what you learn by doing
- 20:33Speaker 2: Yeah that his first one. His first one was a
- 20:38Speaker 2: little rough, but at the same time, anyone's first go
- 20:43Speaker 2: at being game master typically is a little rough. It's
- 20:46Speaker 2: a it's a it is a learning experience.
- 20:48Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so I listen to that. Did you know
- 20:51Speaker 1: that the Macroroi brothers are actually doing the Boombamon Adventure
- 20:54Speaker 1: Zone this weekend in Atlanta?
- 20:55Speaker 2: Well, and I don't like going to the live recordings
- 20:59Speaker 2: that much because of the possibility for awkward interactions that
- 21:05Speaker 2: I find really hard to endure. Like if someone gets
- 21:10Speaker 2: up and like the question thing just isn't going well,
- 21:15Speaker 2: I just get so uncomfortable that I'm like, I won't
- 21:18Speaker 2: I want to be anywhere other than right here, right now,
- 21:21Speaker 2: So I don't like going. It's the same reason why
- 21:24Speaker 2: I don't like going to see stand up comedy. Like
- 21:26Speaker 2: I've got friends who are who have done stand up
- 21:29Speaker 2: and I support them one, but I have never gone
- 21:32Speaker 2: to see their shows because the possibility of Heckler's is
- 21:37Speaker 2: enough to make me want to not go. Same with like,
- 21:42Speaker 2: same with even my favorite improv theater. There are times
- 21:45Speaker 2: where I have to talk myself into going because I
- 21:48Speaker 2: don't know what kind of crowd I'm going to be.
- 21:50Speaker 1: In Yeah, and I know you've had bad crowd experiences
- 21:53Speaker 1: even with great shows.
- 21:54Speaker 2: Oh sure, yeah, so have I.
- 21:59Speaker 1: And that makes sense. You're a very sympathetic, empathetic person.
- 22:01Speaker 1: I can relate to that. I have a hard time
- 22:05Speaker 1: watching people be uncomfortable or yeah, or feeling embarrassed for
- 22:13Speaker 1: other people. So yeah, the other cool thing along with
- 22:18Speaker 1: the macroy brothers, I'm so happy. I was like, gosh,
- 22:22Speaker 1: we need to get all these cool people in Atlanta
- 22:24Speaker 1: to do shows. They're doing them elsewhere. And now some
- 22:26Speaker 1: of the Dimension twenty people and some of the Critical
- 22:29Speaker 1: Role people are in fact doing a live D and
- 22:31Speaker 1: D in Atlanta in October. I don't think I'll be
- 22:35Speaker 1: able to go, but it is really cool.
- 22:37Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that was neat. You sent me the link
- 22:39Speaker 2: to that and I saw it and I was like, oh,
- 22:40Speaker 2: that's going to be really cool. I hope the people
- 22:42Speaker 2: who go have a great time. It kind of makes
- 22:45Speaker 2: me think of you know, we've been lucky to get
- 22:47Speaker 2: Mark Mehir down here a few times for improvised D
- 22:50Speaker 2: and D, and he's also run some D and D games,
- 22:53Speaker 2: not in Atlanta, but he's done some of the ones
- 22:55Speaker 2: that are like hosted in a castle.
- 22:57Speaker 1: Yeah, I've had. I have a friend who's done those.
- 23:00Speaker 2: With him, so that's really cool. I mean those are
- 23:03Speaker 2: super expensive. I've never done one. I like the idea
- 23:07Speaker 2: of it, I just have never gotten to the point
- 23:09Speaker 2: where I'm like, let me actually plan the logistics.
- 23:12Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, she's she's a I mean, that's what she does,
- 23:15Speaker 1: Goblin Katie. She she does a lot of D and
- 23:19Speaker 1: D streams and actual plays as a character and sometimes
- 23:24Speaker 1: a DM, but usually a character. So yeah, that's that's
- 23:27Speaker 1: what she does.
- 23:28Speaker 2: So clearly, when I finally get my D and D
- 23:32Speaker 2: campaign going, we should make that a real play video
- 23:37Speaker 2: series so that we can start doing that stuff.
- 23:39Speaker 1: I would be for it.
- 23:42Speaker 2: I would be for it, baby Steps. We haven't even
- 23:44Speaker 2: rolled up characters for that campaign yet anyhow.
- 23:50Speaker 1: Yeah, cool stuff. I love that the intersection of geekdom
- 23:55Speaker 1: is growing more into Atlanta.
- 23:58Speaker 2: Yeah, and not just once a year when in town.
- 24:01Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So I hope I hope that we get
- 24:04Speaker 1: an actual another like Dimension twenty or Critical Role actual
- 24:07Speaker 1: play in Atlanta because I am more likely to shell
- 24:11Speaker 1: out a chunk, a good chunk of money to go
- 24:14Speaker 1: see a show like that if I also don't have
- 24:17Speaker 1: to pay for travel and hotel. Absolutely, yes, yeah, but
- 24:21Speaker 1: uh there it's it's Brendan Lee Mulligan is running a
- 24:24Speaker 1: game with Zach Oyama and some other people.
- 24:30Speaker 2: I think, yeah, and uh at dream hack and I
- 24:36Speaker 2: have been to a dream Was it a dream hack?
- 24:39Speaker 1: It was something where they were playing StarCraft. Maybe maybe
- 24:45Speaker 1: that was a dream hack, but it was way before
- 24:48Speaker 1: the pandemic. And it was a lot of fun getting
- 24:51Speaker 1: to watch some of the live streamers that I enjoyed
- 24:54Speaker 1: the comedy and commentary of and and watching people play
- 24:58Speaker 1: this game. You know, I don't play StarCraft. I'm really
- 25:00Speaker 1: bad at the clicks per minute kind of games. But
- 25:04Speaker 1: it was a lot of fun. I imagine this will
- 25:07Speaker 1: be It's it looks like it's changed a lot, but
- 25:09Speaker 1: it looks like it's still going to be a great
- 25:10Speaker 1: time if you are fee that weekend in local I
- 25:13Speaker 1: want to go.
- 25:14Speaker 2: Yeah. It's also just a good reminder of wherever you live,
- 25:17Speaker 2: you know, keep an eye out to see what sort
- 25:19Speaker 2: of events might be comeing to your neck of the woods.
- 25:21Speaker 2: You never know when you're going to find, like something
- 25:24Speaker 2: that's really special, maybe even find yourself a community to
- 25:28Speaker 2: belong to, like that kind of stuff. It's it's special stuff.
- 25:31Speaker 2: It takes a lot for me to get out of
- 25:33Speaker 2: the house these days. I'm always thankful when I do it.
- 25:37Speaker 2: But there's it's so hard to get past that initial barrier.
- 25:41Speaker 2: And when you start seeing stuff like this pop up,
- 25:44Speaker 2: it makes it actually a little less hard, which is nice.
- 25:47Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, for sure. And in the future, you and
- 25:50Speaker 1: I will have to plan to go to something together.
- 25:52Speaker 1: We can be each other's moral support.
- 25:54Speaker 2: That sounds great, yeah, because then we're like, hey, Ariel,
- 25:57Speaker 2: I need us to find a corner somewhere where it's
- 25:59Speaker 2: quiet and we could just sit down for a little bit.
- 26:02Speaker 1: That's you know, I appreciate that as well. I like,
- 26:07Speaker 1: I can do big crowds for long periods of time.
- 26:10Speaker 1: But yeah, but even if you have a good social battery,
- 26:13Speaker 1: it does wear out.
- 26:13Speaker 2: So yeah, and for me, it's like just the anxiety
- 26:16Speaker 2: of crowds, right Like, especially if I'm in a place
- 26:19Speaker 2: where I'm not close to an exit and there's no
- 26:22Speaker 2: easy way for me to get there. I don't have
- 26:24Speaker 2: to necessarily take the exit. I just need to know
- 26:27Speaker 2: it's available and I could get there if I needed to.
- 26:30Speaker 2: And in cases where like at Dragon cons sometimes things
- 26:32Speaker 2: just get so crowded, like your shoulder to shoulder, and
- 26:36Speaker 2: there's just there's an equal number of people who are
- 26:38Speaker 2: trying to go the opposite direction of where you and
- 26:41Speaker 2: everybody else is trying to go, and no one's moving.
- 26:44Speaker 2: Those are the situations where my anxiety starts to ratchet
- 26:47Speaker 2: out of control.
- 26:48Speaker 1: That makes sense, I have. I have that anxiety more
- 26:51Speaker 1: now than I used to pre pandemic. But yeah, that
- 26:54Speaker 1: makes total sense.
- 26:55Speaker 2: Mine's gotten worse since the pandemic too. But you know
- 26:58Speaker 2: what hasn't gotten worse.
- 27:00Speaker 1: The sounds outside my house, which is a total lie.
- 27:03Speaker 2: No, I was gonna say, the time limit of thirty seconds.
- 27:07Speaker 2: It has remained constant and hasn't gotten it. It hasn't
- 27:11Speaker 2: gotten better, but it hasn't gotten worse.
- 27:13Speaker 1: I will say it has gotten better. We used to
- 27:15Speaker 1: go for like two minutes on each item.
- 27:17Speaker 2: Well, sure, but the actual time unit thirty seconds, hasn't changed.
- 27:21Speaker 2: And that means it's time for us to talk about
- 27:24Speaker 2: stories what fit in thirty seconds or less?
- 27:27Speaker 1: All right, and I get to go first, And the
- 27:30Speaker 1: first thing we're going to talk about is Galaxy Quest,
- 27:32Speaker 1: which is an awesome spoof on Star Trek. If you
- 27:35Speaker 1: haven't watched it do it's so good. But it's hitting
- 27:39Speaker 1: its twenty fifth anniversary and to celebrate, they're getting a
- 27:42Speaker 1: four K restoration of the movie edition with like you
- 27:47Speaker 1: you can get like a steelbox cover art version. It's
- 27:50Speaker 1: gonna have Dolby Vision, HD bar and audio and then
- 27:57Speaker 1: like something from the director on there and I Gaescy
- 28:00Speaker 1: special features and I hope that it has some outtakes
- 28:04Speaker 1: that we've never seen before, because that would be amazing.
- 28:07Speaker 2: I hope it comes by grab Thar's Hammer. It appears
- 28:12Speaker 2: that Pure Evil has won out over the Time Bandits
- 28:15Speaker 2: because the Apple TV Plus series based off the Terry
- 28:18Speaker 2: Gilliam film of the same name, will not be returning
- 28:21Speaker 2: for a second season. Well, I preferred the original film's
- 28:25Speaker 2: style and sense of humor to the series. I thought
- 28:28Speaker 2: that the kid playing the main character was absolutely fantastic,
- 28:31Speaker 2: The settings were really neat, and Jamaine Clement's version of
- 28:34Speaker 2: the character Evil was a lot of fun.
- 28:37Speaker 1: Sorry to see it go, yeah, for sure. Next. We
- 28:43Speaker 1: had talked a while ago about Clue possibly getting a reboot.
- 28:46Speaker 1: At the time, I think it was Ryan Reynolds was
- 28:49Speaker 1: looking at it or something. Well, now there is a
- 28:52Speaker 1: rumor big R that maybe Zach Kreeger is in talks
- 28:57Speaker 1: to direct a Clue reboot film and along with Shae
- 29:03Speaker 1: Hatten to write the script. Shee Hatton worked on things
- 29:07Speaker 1: like John Wick Chapter three and Rebel Moon An Army
- 29:10Speaker 1: of the Dead. Zach Kreeger, Yeah, Zach Creeker has lately well.
- 29:17Speaker 1: I originally was introduced to him in a sketch comedy show,
- 29:20Speaker 1: The Whitest Kids you know, which if you're you have
- 29:25Speaker 1: sensitive sensibilities, you do not want to watch it. He
- 29:28Speaker 1: has lately been into horror movies such as Barbarian and
- 29:32Speaker 1: the upcoming Weapons, So it makes me really interested to
- 29:35Speaker 1: see what kind of Clue movie he would make. Also,
- 29:40Speaker 1: whether it's a horror or a comedy, I should totally
- 29:42Speaker 1: get a chance to audition. I would kill a Clue character,
- 29:45Speaker 1: not literally, figuratively.
- 29:46Speaker 2: No, you just spoiled the whole movie.
- 29:50Speaker 1: And or maybe literally.
- 29:51Speaker 2: Guriel did it in pre development with the critical commentary.
- 29:56Speaker 1: Sorry that was longer than thirty seconds.
- 29:58Speaker 2: Yeah, that's okay, what a weird I can't even imagine
- 30:02Speaker 2: what kind of Clue movie would come out of that.
- 30:04Speaker 2: All right, if you've been waiting for a John Cena
- 30:07Speaker 2: Helm to action movie based off the classic Matchbox toy
- 30:10Speaker 2: cars line that belongs to matel these days, while I
- 30:13Speaker 2: got some promising news for you, because it looks like
- 30:16Speaker 2: such a project as actually in development, I'm tempted to
- 30:19Speaker 2: just write this off entirely. But then we did get
- 30:22Speaker 2: a pretty darn good Barbie movie not too long ago,
- 30:25Speaker 2: so maybe I shouldn't be so hasty. And Matchbox cars
- 30:28Speaker 2: are awesome. Those things can survive a nuclear blast, can
- 30:34Speaker 2: I really well, I don't know about that, but they're
- 30:37Speaker 2: like those die cast toy cars. They're just so tough.
- 30:42Speaker 2: Like I used to play with those, where I did
- 30:45Speaker 2: the thing that all kids would do, especially in the eighties,
- 30:48Speaker 2: where you would build like a homemade track that was
- 30:51Speaker 2: designed to make the car go to approximately warp five
- 30:54Speaker 2: and smash into like a brick wall and they'd be fine,
- 30:58Speaker 2: just keep playing with it.
- 31:00Speaker 1: Next story is that we're gonna talk more about Geek
- 31:04Speaker 1: Dweek from Netflix later in the show. But one of
- 31:07Speaker 1: the things that was announced was on Twitter was a
- 31:10Speaker 1: bunch of people who are going to be in season
- 31:11Speaker 1: seven of Black Mirror. That includes Peter Capaldi, who's one
- 31:15Speaker 1: of the doctors and doctor who Emma Corn who was
- 31:19Speaker 1: the Cassandra Nova in Deadpool and Wolverine, and also Paul Giamatti,
- 31:24Speaker 1: who has done geee stuff as well. It's it. But
- 31:29Speaker 1: the thing is you have to like keep pausing the
- 31:31Speaker 1: tweet because it goes by so quick. Is the Ray
- 31:34Speaker 1: is also going to be in it, and a bunch
- 31:36Speaker 1: of other people, and I just I didn't have enough
- 31:38Speaker 1: time to watch it, enough time to pull all the
- 31:40Speaker 1: cool names out of it.
- 31:41Speaker 2: Yeah, it's It makes me think of those mean things
- 31:44Speaker 2: where it's like pause the image to find out which
- 31:47Speaker 2: blah blah blah character you are, and it's just just
- 31:51Speaker 2: rapidly cycling through all the different images and then you
- 31:54Speaker 2: click the pause and you're like, pinky pie or whatever,
- 31:57Speaker 2: Well here's my last one. Amazon MGM has picked up
- 32:02Speaker 2: the rights to a film based off the video game
- 32:04Speaker 2: series The Sims. Kate Heron, who directed the Disney Plus
- 32:07Speaker 2: series Loki, is helming the project and is co writing
- 32:10Speaker 2: the script with Brianny Redman. I don't know how much
- 32:14Speaker 2: writing is actually involved, because I expect all the dialogue
- 32:16Speaker 2: will sound like brebopscre La La Marshall, Rushtick Shawshaw, et cetera.
- 32:22Speaker 2: Here's hoping it's not a horror movie in which people
- 32:24Speaker 2: get stuck in a swimming pool and then all the
- 32:26Speaker 2: latters mysteriously disappear.
- 32:29Speaker 1: For those words, did you do as Similish to English
- 32:31Speaker 1: or vice versa translation.
- 32:33Speaker 2: No, I did not. I just literally was like what
- 32:36Speaker 2: kind of sounds are in the SIMS games without actually
- 32:38Speaker 2: looking any of it up.
- 32:40Speaker 1: I expect a SIMS movie to be similar to like
- 32:43Speaker 1: Free Guy, where bad stuff and hilarious stuff befalls all
- 32:47Speaker 1: the characters.
- 32:48Speaker 2: Yeah, suddenly you can't find a toilet and you have
- 32:51Speaker 2: to mess yourself. That'll be great that I don't want to.
- 32:54Speaker 1: Watch that, but I would not put it past a
- 32:56Speaker 1: movie nowadays. The last last story in thirty seconds or
- 32:59Speaker 1: last is if you like Mass Effect and you can't
- 33:03Speaker 1: get enough Mass Effect and you can't wait for the
- 33:05Speaker 1: new Mass Effect to eventually come out, well, there is
- 33:09Speaker 1: an official cocktail cookbook coming out that has seventy recipes
- 33:12Speaker 1: inspired by events and locations from Mass Effect the game.
- 33:17Speaker 1: It's twenty eight bucks and they The cool thing is
- 33:20Speaker 1: they have substitutions and alternative suggestions in it, so you
- 33:24Speaker 1: can make non alcoholic versions of the drink. So you
- 33:27Speaker 1: can enjoy the recipes regardless of age.
- 33:30Speaker 2: Nice. Cool. So that's thirty seconds or less. And now
- 33:36Speaker 2: it's time for us to go through a whole bunch
- 33:38Speaker 2: of trailers, not all of which are for scary stuff.
- 33:42Speaker 1: No, and I had no, no, no clue on which
- 33:49Speaker 1: were horrors, horry, horrors.
- 33:52Speaker 2: Yeah, the title I try to.
- 33:54Speaker 1: Say horror and scary at the same time. It does
- 33:56Speaker 1: not work.
- 33:56Speaker 2: Horries, Yeah, I know that. Anyway. The titles run the
- 34:02Speaker 2: entire gamut, and some of the titles don't sound scary
- 34:05Speaker 2: but are and some do sound scary but aren't.
- 34:08Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but it's okay. I was able to watch
- 34:11Speaker 1: all of the trailers, only a couple of them. I
- 34:13Speaker 1: didn't understand.
- 34:14Speaker 2: Our first one, though, is for an actual documentary, and
- 34:19Speaker 2: it's a very It's a sad story, sad and inspiring
- 34:22Speaker 2: at the same time. It's titled The Remarkable Life of Ibelin,
- 34:28Speaker 2: and it's you. If you have followed World of Warcraft,
- 34:33Speaker 2: you may have heard about this story. It's about a
- 34:37Speaker 2: young man who had a degenerative muscular condition that had
- 34:42Speaker 2: him confined to a wheelchair, and his family had sort
- 34:46Speaker 2: of resigned themselves to this idea that he was just
- 34:50Speaker 2: never going to have an opportunity to really make an impact,
- 34:53Speaker 2: Like it was just a really tragic life. What they
- 34:56Speaker 2: didn't know, Like they knew he was fond of computer game,
- 35:00Speaker 2: but they didn't know that he was finding friendships online
- 35:05Speaker 2: through the game World of Warcraft. And it's a really
- 35:10Speaker 2: sad story because obviously the young man passed away in
- 35:12Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, this was quite some time ago, but his
- 35:16Speaker 2: passing made a huge emotional impact on the people who
- 35:20Speaker 2: knew him in game, many of whom made the trip
- 35:23Speaker 2: to Norway to attend his funeral at his passing. And
- 35:28Speaker 2: so this is a documentary that tells that story. And
- 35:32Speaker 2: the trailer alone, if you're an emotional person like I am,
- 35:36Speaker 2: is going to get you like at least misty eyed.
- 35:40Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, for sure, but it is it is
- 35:43Speaker 1: wonderful to see that you know, this person made an impact,
- 35:47Speaker 1: and you know, we're on a podcast. So I hate
- 35:53Speaker 1: to say that social media breeds a lot of bad things,
- 35:56Speaker 1: but social media does breed a lot of a lot
- 35:58Speaker 1: of bad, hard things. But it also has brought to
- 36:02Speaker 1: like it has given a platform to people who who
- 36:06Speaker 1: may have been considered less than or had families resigned
- 36:10Speaker 1: about their life.
- 36:12Speaker 2: Prior isolated for some reason.
- 36:16Speaker 1: Yeah, the opportunity to be like, hey, I'm a cool
- 36:19Speaker 1: person and I want to connect and give them the
- 36:21Speaker 1: opportunity to connect and touch other people's lives and help
- 36:23Speaker 1: maybe other people going through the same situations. So I
- 36:27Speaker 1: am so glad that they're doing this story.
- 36:30Speaker 2: Yeah. I just recently did an episode of tech Stuff
- 36:35Speaker 2: about mental health and social network sites, because there's a
- 36:40Speaker 2: lot of there's a lot of common sense type stuff
- 36:44Speaker 2: that suggests that overuse of social network sites leads to
- 36:48Speaker 2: a bad impact on mental health. But the point I
- 36:52Speaker 2: was making is that while that is very probably true,
- 36:56Speaker 2: we don't exactly have definitive studies making that link right, So,
- 37:01Speaker 2: like it seems to make sense, but you can't just
- 37:04Speaker 2: assume that that's true. You need to be able to
- 37:07Speaker 2: look at evidence and make sure that what you think
- 37:10Speaker 2: is true really is true. And that we shouldn't forget
- 37:14Speaker 2: that while social networking sites can have a negative impact,
- 37:19Speaker 2: they can also have a very positive one, and that
- 37:23Speaker 2: it gets very easy for us to focus just on
- 37:26Speaker 2: the negative aspects and to forget about how they have
- 37:30Speaker 2: the potential to do things like connect people together who
- 37:33Speaker 2: otherwise never would have met and never would have had
- 37:38Speaker 2: a chance to be part of each other's lives. So
- 37:41Speaker 2: this trailer is, i think, again, very sad, but very inspirational.
- 37:49Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so I don't know how much of How
- 37:53Speaker 1: I Met Your Mother used to watch, but there is
- 37:55Speaker 1: an entire episode where the main character Ted Mosby, one
- 37:59Speaker 1: of mecharacters, met someone he was dating through World of
- 38:03Speaker 1: Warcraft and it was a huge joke. But like I
- 38:08Speaker 1: use my my family is currently playing World of Warcraft
- 38:12Speaker 1: Ascension classless, uh you know, and it's been a way
- 38:16Speaker 1: for me to hang out with my family and connect
- 38:18Speaker 1: with them.
- 38:18Speaker 2: So well, don't let World of Warcraft dictate that. I
- 38:23Speaker 2: think your your family has plenty of class I I mean, I.
- 38:27Speaker 1: Think so too. It it's but since I've started playing
- 38:31Speaker 1: with them, and I've only played once because time zones,
- 38:33Speaker 1: but but I plan on playing more with them, I
- 38:37Speaker 1: have been getting hit at nauseum with World of Warcraft ads.
- 38:41Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, well, you know, I met my my partner
- 38:45Speaker 2: through the internet, so like, I mean, granted that was
- 38:48Speaker 2: thirty years ago, but it's still like that was that
- 38:51Speaker 2: was how I met her, and so like, I also
- 38:56Speaker 2: maintain that belief that you can obviously create and maintain
- 39:03Speaker 2: meaningful relationships online. Honestly, the thing I think that stands
- 39:09Speaker 2: the way more than anything else are the platforms themselves
- 39:11Speaker 2: and things like recommendation algorithms, Because when you get down
- 39:16Speaker 2: to it, the platforms are not designed to facilitate communication.
- 39:19Speaker 2: They're designed to try and keep you there as long
- 39:22Speaker 2: as possible, to sell as many ads as they can.
- 39:25Speaker 2: So when you get that in your mind and you're like, okay,
- 39:28Speaker 2: well that's why the platforms exist, like that's their money
- 39:31Speaker 2: making strategy, then you get a better appreciation for what
- 39:35Speaker 2: is and isn't typical on those sites.
- 39:38Speaker 1: Yeah. I've become very diligent about like is this a
- 39:41Speaker 1: friend post popping up? No, this is a random thing,
- 39:45Speaker 1: and list really hits me. I'm like, no more of these,
- 39:47Speaker 1: thank you?
- 39:48Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, well, speaking of no more of these, I
- 39:53Speaker 2: don't know that's kind of.
- 39:54Speaker 1: Makes You're going to talk about a horror movie.
- 39:57Speaker 2: No, it's it's this is a kid's movie.
- 40:00Speaker 1: Are you sure it's pretty scary.
- 40:02Speaker 2: I don't know that it's scary, but it definitely as
- 40:06Speaker 2: a extreme opening premise. We're talking about dog Man, a film,
- 40:16Speaker 2: a film in which the protagonist is part dog, part man.
- 40:22Speaker 2: Dog's head on a man's body.
- 40:24Speaker 1: Yeah, not through natural ways. It's not like Sweet Tooth
- 40:27Speaker 1: where this character was just born like this. No, there's
- 40:30Speaker 1: a horrible accident and they pull some gosh darn Mars
- 40:34Speaker 1: attacks level surgery because putting a dog head on a
- 40:39Speaker 1: man's body is a way to preserve both both people.
- 40:44Speaker 1: I guess.
- 40:45Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, it's a dog's head on a CoP's body,
- 40:50Speaker 2: and so now you've got a cop that has a
- 40:52Speaker 2: dog head for a head.
- 40:53Speaker 1: Also, wasn't it like wasn't it like the dog's owner
- 40:56Speaker 1: or something like that.
- 40:57Speaker 2: Maybe I don't want to think about that too much,
- 41:02Speaker 2: but it is a cartoon, and it is like it's
- 41:05Speaker 2: using humor to kind of go through all the tropes
- 41:09Speaker 2: of like your typical cop action film, except that your
- 41:13Speaker 2: protagonist is a cop who has a doghead, and it's
- 41:18Speaker 2: done in a very cartoonish style. It's not at all realistic,
- 41:22Speaker 2: but it does look the humor does look bizarre for sure.
- 41:27Speaker 1: For sure that I have nothing to add the premise
- 41:33Speaker 1: kind of creeps me out a little bit immediately.
- 41:36Speaker 2: When on Ariel's top five films that she's anticipating.
- 41:39Speaker 1: List, yes, exactly. Actually, something that did surprisingly go on
- 41:45Speaker 1: my I'm anticipating it list is this movie Brothers that
- 41:48Speaker 1: is next in our list to talk about.
- 41:50Speaker 2: Yeah, so Brothers. It was kind of given me Cohen
- 42:00Speaker 2: Brothers vibes, like it kind of felt like a Coen
- 42:03Speaker 2: Brothers movie, but a little too comedic, like.
- 42:07Speaker 1: Like Logan Lucky.
- 42:09Speaker 2: I was thinking, well, I haven't seen Logan Lucky, so
- 42:13Speaker 2: you need to fix that. I know, I know, but
- 42:16Speaker 2: unfortunately you have me on this New Girl assignment that
- 42:19Speaker 2: I'm going to have to get to, so it's just
- 42:22Speaker 2: gonna have to wait.
- 42:24Speaker 1: Do do Logan Lucky is one movie? You can do
- 42:27Speaker 1: that first and then do New Girl.
- 42:28Speaker 2: You can't keep moving assignments around. It is going to
- 42:32Speaker 2: give me executive dysfunction.
- 42:33Speaker 1: Okay, okay, fine, keep New Girl and then do Logan Lucky.
- 42:37Speaker 1: Just added to the bottom of the list, all right. Well.
- 42:39Speaker 2: The Brothers is a film in which uh, Peter Dinglish
- 42:43Speaker 2: and Josh Brolin play twin brothers. Peter Dinglich's character is
- 42:50Speaker 2: a criminal who talks his brother into participating in various crimes.
- 42:55Speaker 2: Like you get the feeling that Josh Brolin's character would
- 42:58Speaker 2: rather not be a criminal. But he keeps getting talked
- 43:01Speaker 2: into it. Marissa Tomae is in this, Glenn Close is
- 43:05Speaker 2: in this. Like the list of the list of high
- 43:08Speaker 2: end actors is incredible. Brendan Fraser plays like a corrupt
- 43:13Speaker 2: cop in it. And the trailer, like I said, it
- 43:16Speaker 2: was giving me Coen Brothers vibes, like I was thinking
- 43:18Speaker 2: about something like Big Lebowski excepted again, this is more
- 43:23Speaker 2: overtly comedic, Like there's more zany comedy stuff than the
- 43:28Speaker 2: surreal absurd comedy you typically end up with a Cohen
- 43:31Speaker 2: Brothers film.
- 43:32Speaker 1: But yeah, and then there's this surrealness of the like
- 43:37Speaker 1: they know the trailer for it knows because they're like
- 43:40Speaker 1: Academy or Award winner, this person, award nominee, this person,
- 43:44Speaker 1: Award winner, this person, so they know it's ridiculous.
- 43:48Speaker 2: Yeah, but the trailer looked looked funny. I could probably
- 43:53Speaker 2: do without the orangutan subplot.
- 43:56Speaker 1: Probably.
- 43:56Speaker 2: I feel like that's gonna just be one of those
- 43:58Speaker 2: things where I'm like, this feels like a Fairly Brothers
- 44:01Speaker 2: as opposed to a Cohen Brothers thing.
- 44:03Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree, I could. I could do without
- 44:06Speaker 1: that subplot. Did you ever watch Palm Springs?
- 44:11Speaker 2: I have not seen it.
- 44:12Speaker 1: No, okay, it was. It was the one that had
- 44:18Speaker 1: I think. It was Andy Samberg and Kristen Melody as
- 44:23Speaker 1: people who meet at a wedding and both are really
- 44:26Speaker 1: like unenthused with life and then they go through like
- 44:28Speaker 1: a groundhog type Groundhog's Day type situation.
- 44:31Speaker 2: That old chestnut, that old chestnut.
- 44:34Speaker 1: It was. It was a fun movie. This is done
- 44:37Speaker 1: by the same people, so that automatically made me a
- 44:40Speaker 1: little bit excited about it. Not gonna lie.
- 44:43Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the trailer. I thought I thought it
- 44:46Speaker 2: was funny. No, it struck me as fairly entertaining. I
- 44:53Speaker 2: love Peter Dinkli's work. I think that he's he's really
- 44:57Speaker 2: fun actor to watch. So, uh, I'm definitely curious about this.
- 45:02Speaker 2: I might wait to read some reviews before I decide
- 45:05Speaker 2: to go see it, because if it does turn out
- 45:07Speaker 2: that it's going to be more like if it ends
- 45:10Speaker 2: up on the spectrum of Cohen to Fairly Brothers, if
- 45:13Speaker 2: it's more Fairly and less Cohen, I probably am not
- 45:16Speaker 2: going to go see it. But uh, if it's the
- 45:18Speaker 2: other way, then I'm more interested.
- 45:21Speaker 1: Yeah, I yeah, I look. I look forward to it.
- 45:28Speaker 1: I hope it hits the Palm Springs vibe, which I know,
- 45:30Speaker 1: you know, don't know what that is, but it is.
- 45:31Speaker 2: It is.
- 45:32Speaker 1: Palm Springs and Logan Lucky are kind of in between
- 45:34Speaker 1: Farley and and Coen Brothers, so.
- 45:39Speaker 2: Well, going from fun to harrowing. The next trailer that
- 45:45Speaker 2: we watched for our our show is for a psychological
- 45:51Speaker 2: thriller film called.
- 45:53Speaker 1: B B B I B I yeah and I I
- 45:59Speaker 1: I'm gonna be real hones. They were taping up my
- 46:01Speaker 1: windows to paint my house when this happened, so it
- 46:03Speaker 1: was very, very loud, and it was really hard to
- 46:06Speaker 1: pay attention to this trailer. And I even read like
- 46:09Speaker 1: the wiki summary on what the story is, and I
- 46:14Speaker 1: know it's this woman who is dealing with trauma and
- 46:16Speaker 1: then takes medicine to deal with trauma and so she
- 46:18Speaker 1: can't tell what's real and not. And that's all I
- 46:21Speaker 1: got from the trailer. I don't actually know what's happening
- 46:23Speaker 1: with the carousel you see within the trailer, or the
- 46:29Speaker 1: cowboy guy from Dark Tower or the Little Kids or anything.
- 46:36Speaker 2: Yeah, so generally speaking, like, yeah, there's this issue of
- 46:41Speaker 2: kind of the unreliable narrator element where because of her
- 46:48Speaker 2: mental condition and the medication she's taking. You don't know
- 46:53Speaker 2: how much of her perception to trust. But there's also
- 46:58Speaker 2: kind of a stalker element to the storyline, and again
- 47:02Speaker 2: you don't know, like, is she being stalked. Is the
- 47:06Speaker 2: thing that's stalking her just a regular person. Is it
- 47:09Speaker 2: some sort of like supernatural entity because that's how she
- 47:13Speaker 2: perceives it. How much of that can you trust? What's
- 47:18Speaker 2: actually going on? Yeah? Is it her grief? I think
- 47:22Speaker 2: all of those are intentional, not just in the trailer,
- 47:26Speaker 2: but I'm assuming in the film itself. I mean, it's
- 47:28Speaker 2: always hard to tell because you have to keep in
- 47:30Speaker 2: mind the people who are responsible for creating trailers, they're
- 47:34Speaker 2: usually not the same people who are responsible for making
- 47:37Speaker 2: the movie. And sometimes the people making the trailers are like,
- 47:41Speaker 2: I don't know how to sell this film, so I'm
- 47:43Speaker 2: just going to cut a trailer that makes it look
- 47:45Speaker 2: like a totally different kind of story. And that's when
- 47:48Speaker 2: you get trailers that don't represent the movie properly. I'm
- 47:52Speaker 2: not saying that's the case here, I'm just saying that's
- 47:54Speaker 2: always a possibility. I thought this looked intriguing, but it
- 48:00Speaker 2: was not the kind of trailer that that automatically gets say, oh,
- 48:06Speaker 2: I have to go see that response from me for sure?
- 48:09Speaker 1: For sure, I agree. It's no Waves of Madness?
- 48:15Speaker 2: What is, in fact, what is the waves of Madness?
- 48:19Speaker 2: Can you seriously tell me what Waves of Madness is?
- 48:23Speaker 1: Yes, it is the next masterpiece in the catalog of
- 48:27Speaker 1: Jason Trost and Trust Brother movies apparently, which if you
- 48:32Speaker 1: don't know them, they did All Superheroes Must Die and
- 48:35Speaker 1: many FP movies, including ones that go to space with
- 48:38Speaker 1: space ducks. Not even kidding, I can't.
- 48:45Speaker 2: Even process what you're saying right now.
- 48:48Speaker 1: But this is a This is like a B level
- 48:51Speaker 1: movie about a guy who is played by Jason Trost
- 48:58Speaker 1: who goes onto a sh to rescue people and is
- 49:03Speaker 1: being attacked by Cathulian horrors. It looks like and you
- 49:06Speaker 1: can't tell if also it's in his mind or if
- 49:10Speaker 1: it's real. But the thing that they're using to advertise
- 49:14Speaker 1: it is that it's a side scrolling horror film, which
- 49:18Speaker 1: is interesting. I couldn't really get that from the trailer.
- 49:21Speaker 1: It didn't feel like a side scroller to me.
- 49:23Speaker 2: Yeah, there were moments in the trailer where clearly it's
- 49:27Speaker 2: like going into the background or coming from the background
- 49:30Speaker 2: into the foreground, which in a side scroller you wouldn't
- 49:34Speaker 2: do right, you would stay essentially on the same plane,
- 49:37Speaker 2: like I think of things like double Dragon, where yeah,
- 49:40Speaker 2: technically you could go quote unquote back, but back is
- 49:44Speaker 2: like a quarter inch higher than front. Yeah, so I agree.
- 49:50Speaker 2: I almost got the feeling like the side scrolling thing
- 49:54Speaker 2: ended up becoming more evident during the editing process and
- 49:58Speaker 2: wasn't necessarily intentional from the beginning. But I don't know. Yeah.
- 50:04Speaker 1: Yeah, it's also in black and white, so it gives
- 50:06Speaker 1: it that very like Sin City, Sin City or Miskatonic feel.
- 50:15Speaker 1: I think, have you never?
- 50:17Speaker 2: Have you?
- 50:18Speaker 1: We've talked about this and I just can't remember. I
- 50:21Speaker 1: have too much construction noise in my brain. Have you
- 50:27Speaker 1: watched The FP or All Superheroes? Must I? Or any
- 50:29Speaker 1: of those?
- 50:30Speaker 2: Is the f FP the one where it's set in
- 50:33Speaker 2: a post apocalypse where major disagreements are are solved by
- 50:39Speaker 2: a duel with dance Dance Revolution. Yes, never heard of it? No, Yes,
- 50:44Speaker 2: I have seen that one.
- 50:45Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, it's dumb. It's really dumb. But I enjoyed it,
- 50:50Speaker 1: and I especially love it because the main characters are
- 50:52Speaker 1: j Trow Because the actor's name is Jason Trost and
- 50:56Speaker 1: l E because the actress name is Lee, but they do.
- 51:02Speaker 1: And the Jason Trost and his brother whose name I
- 51:06Speaker 1: can't remember at the moment work on a lot of
- 51:08Speaker 1: like really legit movies too, but their passion is making
- 51:11Speaker 1: these original movies. Also, Behers Must Die is actually a
- 51:15Speaker 1: really fun movie.
- 51:19Speaker 2: It just the the FP reminded that one came out
- 51:23Speaker 2: early in a phase where we started getting the nostalgia
- 51:27Speaker 2: heads right, like, we started to get films and projects
- 51:33Speaker 2: that were overtly tapping into nostalgia. The FP was on
- 51:40Speaker 2: the front end of that trend, like they were, because
- 51:43Speaker 2: it felt kind of like a Mad Max style movie,
- 51:45Speaker 2: except that dance dance revolution is the way to settle
- 51:49Speaker 2: all disputes and to determine who's like the leader or whatever,
- 51:53Speaker 2: and so it's an absurd premise. But then we got
- 51:57Speaker 2: like that BMX by Bike post apocalyptic movie, I can't
- 52:05Speaker 2: remember what the Turbokid we got, Turbo Kid we got.
- 52:08Speaker 2: Then we got Kung Fury, which was taking an Internet
- 52:12Speaker 2: short and turning it into a longer format, nostalgic Kung
- 52:17Speaker 2: Fu like eighties style movie, which, by the way, worked
- 52:22Speaker 2: way better as a short film online than it did
- 52:24Speaker 2: as a full project. Unfortunately, then later on we got
- 52:29Speaker 2: things like Stranger Things where you started to get larger
- 52:33Speaker 2: studios tapping into that same trend. But I would argue
- 52:37Speaker 2: the FP was kind of like the tip of the
- 52:40Speaker 2: spear when it came to that kind of esthetic and
- 52:44Speaker 2: that kind of approach. So the FP is the only
- 52:48Speaker 2: one I've seen. I haven't seen the Superheroes Must Die one,
- 52:51Speaker 2: but the FP was. I was impressed by the imagination
- 52:58Speaker 2: of the FP like that. The whole premise tickled me,
- 53:02Speaker 2: So that might be enough for me to give the
- 53:04Speaker 2: Waves of Madness a try, whereas the trailer didn't really
- 53:07Speaker 2: impress me much. Yeah.
- 53:11Speaker 1: Jason Trost, the brother Brandon Trust, is a cinematographer and
- 53:14Speaker 1: director who has worked on things like American Pickle and Night,
- 53:18Speaker 1: Bitch and Knuckles and Dear Evan Henson and Sonic the Hedgehog.
- 53:22Speaker 1: So like bog Yeah, these people do Future Man one
- 53:28Speaker 1: episode Bury one episode, very very is amazing. All Superheroes
- 53:35Speaker 1: must Die. It's the story is for young superheroes. I'm
- 53:39Speaker 1: reading this find themselves stripped of their powers by their
- 53:43Speaker 1: arch enemy. They thought they had defeated years earlier, and
- 53:46Speaker 1: they have to go through a number of challenges by
- 53:48Speaker 1: the villain in order to save an abandoned townful innocent
- 53:51Speaker 1: citizens without their powers. But the interesting thing is it
- 53:54Speaker 1: had Lucas Tillinett who later became an ex man, and
- 53:58Speaker 1: also Sean Whalen.
- 53:59Speaker 2: So nice. Yeah, so uh yeah. I don't know if
- 54:04Speaker 2: that's gonna if any of that applies to the Waves
- 54:07Speaker 2: of Madness.
- 54:08Speaker 1: But I am gonna watch it.
- 54:11Speaker 2: I might wait for Aeriel's review before I decide whether
- 54:14Speaker 2: or not I'm gonna pour time in it or if
- 54:15Speaker 2: it's just gonna go behind what is it? It's new Girl?
- 54:19Speaker 2: And then logan Lucky, Logan Lucky, He's so good. Okay.
- 54:24Speaker 2: Next up, we got a trailer for kind of a
- 54:27Speaker 2: sci fi comedy slash action slash horror movie in a
- 54:33Speaker 2: way I think, more less horror than the others. But
- 54:36Speaker 2: it's called Mickey seventeen. And as I was watching this,
- 54:41Speaker 2: I was like, I feel like this was heavily influenced
- 54:45Speaker 2: by certain types of video games, Like I'm specifically thinking
- 54:49Speaker 2: of things like border Lands, not for the aesthetic, but
- 54:52Speaker 2: in Borderlands, the way that game handles character death, Like
- 54:57Speaker 2: when you're When your character at that you are playing
- 55:00Speaker 2: ass dies, it regenerates you at the closest regeneration point,
- 55:08Speaker 2: and you lose some money in the process. It's deducted
- 55:11Speaker 2: that the cost of your resurrection is deducted from your money,
- 55:15Speaker 2: and then you're allowed to continue. This is kind of
- 55:18Speaker 2: similar in that Mickey seventeen is a story in which
- 55:23Speaker 2: a character, desperate to escape his situation, signs on to
- 55:27Speaker 2: work for a company, and the gimmick is the work
- 55:32Speaker 2: he does is incredibly dangerous, and if he dies in
- 55:35Speaker 2: the process of work, the company regenerates him and his
- 55:41Speaker 2: clone continues to work the job. And in this story
- 55:47Speaker 2: the seventeenth clone, so he's died sixteen times already. The
- 55:53Speaker 2: seventeenth clone avoids death and then encounters the eighteenth version
- 56:00Speaker 2: of his clone. But two versions of the same clone
- 56:03Speaker 2: are not supposed to exist at the same time, and
- 56:05Speaker 2: that's where the real conflict of the film kicks in.
- 56:10Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, definitely a dark comedy. It gave me like
- 56:14Speaker 1: very like Avenue five vibes.
- 56:17Speaker 2: It is.
- 56:17Speaker 1: It is done by h Bong Juno, who has also
- 56:21Speaker 1: done Snow Piercer and Parasite, which I would argue are
- 56:25Speaker 1: two movies very much on the opposite side of the
- 56:27Speaker 1: spectrum from each other.
- 56:29Speaker 2: Well, except that they're both like deeply, deeply satirical, and
- 56:34Speaker 2: they're deeply they're both commenting on society, just they're doing
- 56:39Speaker 2: it in wildly different ways.
- 56:41Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's a different reception. I feel like as well.
- 56:45Speaker 2: Well. I think both films are fantastic. I think Parasite
- 56:48Speaker 2: is a masterpiece.
- 56:51Speaker 1: A bunch of awards, didn't it.
- 56:52Speaker 2: Yeah, it won, It won the Academy Award, and upset
- 56:57Speaker 2: a bunch of ignoranemuses.
- 56:59Speaker 1: But I have a bunch of friends who do not
- 57:01Speaker 1: like Snow Piercer at all. I have not watched it.
- 57:03Speaker 1: I've only seen the sushi scene.
- 57:05Speaker 2: Oh. I love snow Piercer. I love that movie. I
- 57:08Speaker 2: haven't watched the series, but I have. I've watched the movie,
- 57:11Speaker 2: and I love the movie. I don't think it's a
- 57:13Speaker 2: perfect film, and I think the social commentary of Snow
- 57:17Speaker 2: Piercer kind of falls apart in the third act, but
- 57:23Speaker 2: I loved it. Tilda Swinton is as always perfect ed,
- 57:29Speaker 2: Harris is amazing. Chris Evans does really well on it too.
- 57:34Speaker 2: I really enjoy snow Piercer. I think it's I think
- 57:37Speaker 2: it's worth a watch.
- 57:38Speaker 1: I will add it to the bottom of my list. Yeah,
- 57:42Speaker 1: but Mickey seventeen. Honestly, when I saw the this is
- 57:45Speaker 1: one of the things I confused it with a documentary
- 57:48Speaker 1: that Disney was doing.
- 57:51Speaker 2: I thought it was going to be about Mickey Mouse.
- 57:53Speaker 1: Well, no, because they've they've got some they've got like
- 57:56Speaker 1: some space documentary that they've been working on or came
- 58:00Speaker 1: out recently years coming out soon and between the space
- 58:04Speaker 1: picture of that. Because the image on the trailer is
- 58:06Speaker 1: just Robert Pattinson's space in a space helmet, you can't
- 58:10Speaker 1: really tell what the movie is about. And the name Mickey,
- 58:12Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, this is that Disney documentary thing.
- 58:15Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you put it on our list
- 58:17Speaker 1: so I could realize that it was not that.
- 58:20Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know what to expect. I saw just
- 58:23Speaker 2: that the trailer popped up in YouTube, and I thought,
- 58:25Speaker 2: I'm going to watch this and see what this is about.
- 58:29Speaker 2: And this is one where I want to see this
- 58:32Speaker 2: movie because it looks entertaining, yeah and potentially thought provoking.
- 58:38Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm I want to see it. I am
- 58:40Speaker 1: a little worried that it's going to creep me out
- 58:42Speaker 1: a bit, because you know, getting burned alive is even
- 58:47Speaker 1: if it's for comedy, which is one of the moments
- 58:50Speaker 1: in the trailer, creeps me out.
- 58:53Speaker 2: Well in that regard. It's kind of given me happy
- 58:57Speaker 2: death Day vibes, like and Happy Death Day. I mean
- 59:00Speaker 2: that's more of a Groundhog Day thing, not a clone thing.
- 59:03Speaker 2: But because time does continue to pass in Mickey seventeen
- 59:07Speaker 2: as far as we can tell, like, it's not like
- 59:09Speaker 2: the day gets reset or something. So it's not like that,
- 59:13Speaker 2: or what's the tom Cruise one that has two titles Edge.
- 59:17Speaker 1: Of Tomorrow slash Die diarnse repeat, Live Die Repeat, Live direpeat.
- 59:22Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, those are It's not like that where
- 59:26Speaker 2: you're reliving the same time. Time does continue, But it
- 59:29Speaker 2: does make me think. In Happy Death Day, there is
- 59:33Speaker 2: a disturbingly hilarious sequence of the protagonist ending her own
- 59:39Speaker 2: life over and over and over again in order to
- 59:41Speaker 2: get to the next the next reset faster, and it
- 59:49Speaker 2: would be really disturbing if it were for the fact
- 59:52Speaker 2: that the actress just sells it as comedy in a
- 59:57Speaker 2: really brilliant way, Like to this day, I'm a a
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: maze that that movie works as well as it does.
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: I haven't watched it yet. I probably will watch it
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: on TV at some point, maybe this this Halloween.
- 1:00:08Speaker 2: It's it's worth a Halloween watch. I think if you like,
- 1:00:11Speaker 2: I mean, it is a darker horror comedy, but I
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: think if you dig horror comedy, Happy Death Day and
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: Happy Death Day to You the sequel that one manages
- 1:00:22Speaker 2: to inject some interesting changes that I think upset some
- 1:00:28Speaker 2: people who just wanted more of the same. But I
- 1:00:30Speaker 2: really I think of Happy Death Day and Happy Death
- 1:00:33Speaker 2: Day to You being similar to Bill and Ted's excellent
- 1:00:36Speaker 2: adventure in Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey.
- 1:00:38Speaker 1: Okay, so happy so Happy Death Day to You three
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: is going to be uh Alex White and Keanu Reeves
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: in Waiting for goodo.
- 1:00:47Speaker 2: Or there was a third Bill and Ted movie, so I.
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: Know, I watched it. It was fine.
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: It was fine. Yeah, it was fine.
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: It was fine.
- 1:00:56Speaker 2: They looked like they were having a good time. That's
- 1:00:59Speaker 2: that's all that really. Yeah, someone that wasn't having a
- 1:01:03Speaker 2: good time was Jonathan when he was watching the next
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: two trailers we're going to talk about, because they fall
- 1:01:07Speaker 2: into the super cheap movie category. Really yeah, No, these
- 1:01:14Speaker 2: Both of these next two films looked like they were
- 1:01:18Speaker 2: really super low budget to me, like because the first one,
- 1:01:22Speaker 2: which is Amityville Where the Echo Lives, I was getting
- 1:01:26Speaker 2: the feel of something shot on digital video, and it
- 1:01:30Speaker 2: was like the quality of digital video from like five
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: years ago.
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: I didn't get that feel. But I I'm not gonna lie.
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: I saw the title Amitityville, and I did my coping
- 1:01:40Speaker 1: mechanism for watching a horror.
- 1:01:41Speaker 2: Trailer on fast speed. You need to just watch this one.
- 1:01:45Speaker 2: You can take it because it's not true.
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: I think you could. I just I forgot to go
- 1:01:49Speaker 1: back and watch it at full speed. But I've never watched.
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: I'm not even familiar with what Amityville is, so okay,
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: so I've heard of it, but I don't know the story.
- 1:01:59Speaker 2: So first of all, the title Amityville shouldn't matter at
- 1:02:02Speaker 2: all period, and the reason why is because Amityville isn't
- 1:02:07Speaker 2: like a trademark or anything. So tons of low budget
- 1:02:11Speaker 2: horror movies have appropriated the name Amityville because it has
- 1:02:16Speaker 2: a built in recognizable factor in the horror crowd. The
- 1:02:19Speaker 2: original Amityville, the horror film, was about a supposedly haunted house.
- 1:02:26Speaker 2: It's related to the Warrens, which are these I mean,
- 1:02:32Speaker 2: I think of them as con artists, but even if
- 1:02:34Speaker 2: they're sincere, they're wrong. But they're ghost hunters. They're also
- 1:02:39Speaker 2: the ones who are They are the inspiration. I mean,
- 1:02:43Speaker 2: their characters are the inspiration for the characters in the
- 1:02:46Speaker 2: Conjuring series. It's the same people, the Warrens. So the
- 1:02:52Speaker 2: first original Amityville was about a haunted house in Amityville.
- 1:02:58Speaker 2: Since then, the name Eville has been attached to all
- 1:03:02Speaker 2: these different movies that have little to sometimes absolutely no
- 1:03:06Speaker 2: connection to that original film. I get the feeling this
- 1:03:11Speaker 2: is one of those where there's really no connection whatsoever
- 1:03:15Speaker 2: to the actual Amityville series. But it is like a
- 1:03:20Speaker 2: ghost movie. It's a horror movie shot on real, cheap video,
- 1:03:24Speaker 2: and it didn't look at all scary to me.
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: Yeah, it didn't look that scary to me either, No more,
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: no more scary than I thought. The lead actress in
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: it seemed perfectly charismatic.
- 1:03:41Speaker 2: Oh sure, yeah, I don't. This is I don't want
- 1:03:44Speaker 2: to heap aspersions on the people who appear in the film.
- 1:03:48Speaker 2: I'm saying, like the film itself doesn't look like it
- 1:03:51Speaker 2: works for me. Not that the actors are bad. Like,
- 1:03:54Speaker 2: I think the actors are doing a great job, or
- 1:03:56Speaker 2: as good a job as they can with the material
- 1:03:58Speaker 2: they're given, probably better than what a lot of actors
- 1:04:00Speaker 2: could do, but that doesn't change the fact that I
- 1:04:03Speaker 2: find the material to be pretty lackluster.
- 1:04:07Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm I do find the next trailer that
- 1:04:10Speaker 1: you lumped into this also, it kind of was lackluster
- 1:04:13Speaker 1: to me, but it didn't feel low budget to me.
- 1:04:15Speaker 1: And that's for kill them All two the end, Like
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: narrator bit did feel low budget, but it's John Claude
- 1:04:23Speaker 1: van dam does family John Wick.
- 1:04:26Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's the other note. I'm glad you brought
- 1:04:29Speaker 2: up the narrator thing because I forgot, like there's a
- 1:04:32Speaker 2: narrator in the Amityville trailer too, right, like and we're
- 1:04:37Speaker 2: talking like old school narrator, like in a world like
- 1:04:40Speaker 2: that kind of narrator, And that's something I meant to
- 1:04:44Speaker 2: bring up because I was like, I don't remember the
- 1:04:47Speaker 2: last time I saw a single trailer, let alone two
- 1:04:51Speaker 2: in one week for two different movies that use the
- 1:04:54Speaker 2: old narrator approach, Like that's so out of style that
- 1:04:59Speaker 2: it stuck out to me. For both of these movies.
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I feel like I have seen it in something,
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: but it might have been. Like I hate that, I'm
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: about to say this a period piece for an eighties
- 1:05:12Speaker 1: or nineties theme kind of movie. I mean, I hate
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: to call an eighties or nineties movie a period piece.
- 1:05:18Speaker 2: Yeah, well we're old.
- 1:05:20Speaker 1: Shut up when I am not old.
- 1:05:22Speaker 2: When they're playing music by like the Cure on the
- 1:05:27Speaker 2: oldiest station, I'm just oh gosh. Anyway, Yeah, so, like
- 1:05:33Speaker 2: I could see it being done as a almost like
- 1:05:36Speaker 2: a gag, like it's meant to be either a joke
- 1:05:41Speaker 2: or it's meant to evoke, like, yeah, this is like
- 1:05:44Speaker 2: an eighties retro nostalgia piece. But neither of these films
- 1:05:47Speaker 2: fall into that category. They're not they aren't set in that,
- 1:05:51Speaker 2: and they're not trying to evoke it, and yet they
- 1:05:53Speaker 2: have the the stereotypical narrative movie narrator voice type thing
- 1:05:57Speaker 2: going on. I thought this trailer looked pretty lackluster too.
- 1:06:03Speaker 2: Like I've said before, I need my action movies to
- 1:06:08Speaker 2: have more going for them than just kick, punch, explosion,
- 1:06:12Speaker 2: and that's all this film seems to have. Along with
- 1:06:17Speaker 2: along with Jean Claude van Dam who looks like he's
- 1:06:21Speaker 2: been down way too many rough miles.
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing. He wasn't selling me on it.
- 1:06:28Speaker 1: So if he does, if I don't feel like he
- 1:06:30Speaker 1: believes it, then I don't believe it.
- 1:06:34Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and he's never been a great actor. He's
- 1:06:40Speaker 2: an incredibly gifted action movie performer, you know, but I've
- 1:06:46Speaker 2: never thought of him as a good actor. I've certainly
- 1:06:52Speaker 2: seen him in some He was in a movie that
- 1:06:54Speaker 2: was so bad that I almost wanted to go out
- 1:06:58Speaker 2: and ask for my money back. And I got to
- 1:07:00Speaker 2: see the movie for free. Wow, Like I didn't pay
- 1:07:04Speaker 2: anything for the ticket, and I was like, I kind
- 1:07:06Speaker 2: of would ask for my money back, except that I
- 1:07:09Speaker 2: got in for free, so wow. Wow. I can't even
- 1:07:12Speaker 2: remember what the title of that movie was. I just
- 1:07:14Speaker 2: remember it was yet another variation on Kung Fu Tournament,
- 1:07:19Speaker 2: like it was one of those type films.
- 1:07:22Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's sad. It's sad for him too. I want,
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: you know, people, even if they don't put out great work,
- 1:07:30Speaker 1: put a lot of heart and soul into their movies usually,
- 1:07:32Speaker 1: and I want people to enjoy that. I'm sure there
- 1:07:35Speaker 1: are people who do. We have a few more things
- 1:07:37Speaker 1: to talk about. I Am going to be real honest.
- 1:07:40Speaker 1: I hear people on my roof now.
- 1:07:42Speaker 2: Yeah, But if we can't hear it in the podcast,
- 1:07:44Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. And if we do hear it, it
- 1:07:46Speaker 2: still doesn't matter because we explained it at the beginning.
- 1:07:49Speaker 1: Sure, Okay, So the next trailer we have, I just
- 1:07:52Speaker 1: I'm worried it's going to get real out, but if
- 1:07:53Speaker 1: it does, we'll leave the rest of the stories for
- 1:07:56Speaker 1: next episode. But in the meantime, the next trailer is
- 1:08:00Speaker 1: for something called time Stalker, which is a reincarnation bad
- 1:08:07Speaker 1: with romance, revenge.
- 1:08:09Speaker 2: Movie, comedy, film comedy.
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: Film, high high concept comedy. Is what you call it?
- 1:08:15Speaker 2: Yeah, I said. It's a high concept, raunchy, high concept
- 1:08:18Speaker 2: comedy where this woman is unlucky in love and has
- 1:08:26Speaker 2: developed an infatuation for a certain fellow who does not
- 1:08:33Speaker 2: return her attention and looks like he doesn't even recognize
- 1:08:39Speaker 2: that she exists. And the gimmick in the trailer is
- 1:08:44Speaker 2: that apparently she keeps essentially throwing herself in the way
- 1:08:49Speaker 2: of danger so that he doesn't get hurt. She dies,
- 1:08:54Speaker 2: but then is reincarnated as another variation like a century
- 1:08:59Speaker 2: l and keeps on encountering the reincarnated same guy over
- 1:09:05Speaker 2: and over again, and that she's kind of repeating the
- 1:09:08Speaker 2: same mistakes while slowly growing more aware of what is happening,
- 1:09:14Speaker 2: which is again very high concept, hard to explain. Like
- 1:09:17Speaker 2: I don't know how you what the elevator pitch is
- 1:09:20Speaker 2: for this movie, Like how do you sum up what
- 1:09:22Speaker 2: this movie's about in just like a sentence or two?
- 1:09:25Speaker 2: But I will say I thought the trailer looked real funny.
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: It did, and honestly, outside of one bit, didn't look
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: super raunchy to me.
- 1:09:34Speaker 2: Yeah, but that one bit was like at the beginning
- 1:09:36Speaker 2: and I was like, oh my gosh, is this just
- 1:09:37Speaker 2: gonna be like there's something about Mary but in period costume.
- 1:09:43Speaker 1: Thankfully, it didn't look It didn't even look quite as
- 1:09:45Speaker 1: raunchy as The De Cameron, which was something we talked
- 1:09:50Speaker 1: about recently on Netflix, which one of the actresses from
- 1:09:52Speaker 1: that is in this movie, Tanya Reynolds. But yeah, it
- 1:09:57Speaker 1: looks pretty funny, it's got a good cast, it's got
- 1:09:59Speaker 1: Nick Frost in it, so yeah, I love Nick.
- 1:10:03Speaker 2: Now, between this and Crazy House, I'm way more likely
- 1:10:07Speaker 2: to see Tom's Time Stalker than Crazy House. Ye. Crazy House,
- 1:10:11Speaker 2: which is another Nick Frost movie. I just watched the
- 1:10:15Speaker 2: more recent trailer for that. Did not add it on
- 1:10:17Speaker 2: to our lineup because it was like, I do not
- 1:10:19Speaker 2: want to talk about this.
- 1:10:20Speaker 1: No, I appreciate it. The first trailer I was kind of.
- 1:10:23Speaker 2: Like, h it's worse. Second trailer is worse.
- 1:10:27Speaker 1: Good to know I appreciate. I appreciate you looking out
- 1:10:29Speaker 1: for me and maybe our listeners.
- 1:10:30Speaker 2: Uh yeah.
- 1:10:33Speaker 1: The next thing, I almost got mad at you. For
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: the next trailer we're gonna I do. I think I'm
- 1:10:38Speaker 1: going to watch Timestalker. I'm excited for it. The next
- 1:10:42Speaker 1: thing I was almost mad. I was like, Jonathan, why
- 1:10:44Speaker 1: didn't you give me a content warning for this next trailer?
- 1:10:50Speaker 2: Because no animals get hurt.
- 1:10:53Speaker 1: No animals get hurt, no animals are endangered in it.
- 1:10:55Speaker 1: But I was real worried at the beginning. It's for
- 1:10:58Speaker 1: a movie called Runt, about a scrappy little puppy who
- 1:11:01Speaker 1: joins agility contests. I immediately sent the trailer to my
- 1:11:06Speaker 1: mom and my aunt. My aunt is a photographer for
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: agility contest. She was like, I have to see this,
- 1:11:11Speaker 1: but you're right. The dog doesn't get hurt or injured
- 1:11:15Speaker 1: or put in peril in this trailer. It just looks
- 1:11:17Speaker 1: really cute and sweet, like like Anne of Green Gables
- 1:11:21Speaker 1: or Pippy long Stalking had a family and a dog.
- 1:11:25Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely is giving me. This also has given
- 1:11:28Speaker 2: me vibes of like stuff I would find in the
- 1:11:30Speaker 2: eighties where it's kid comes across animal in need, takes
- 1:11:37Speaker 2: on the animal, and they develop a magical friendship, like
- 1:11:41Speaker 2: that's the that's the basis the foundation. And in this case,
- 1:11:45Speaker 2: it is a mut a little puppy mutt that the
- 1:11:49Speaker 2: kid begins to enter into an agility contest because the
- 1:11:56Speaker 2: top prize is like a quarter of a million dollars,
- 1:11:59Speaker 2: and the kid's family are in danger of becoming homeless
- 1:12:04Speaker 2: because they're farm like they can't afford the mortgage on
- 1:12:09Speaker 2: their land. And so there's a little bit of weve
- 1:12:12Speaker 2: got to save the rec center energy going on here too,
- 1:12:15Speaker 2: Like there's or Goonies. Like a lot of people forget
- 1:12:19Speaker 2: that the underlying story in Gooni's is that the kids
- 1:12:22Speaker 2: all belong to families that are going to get displaced
- 1:12:26Speaker 2: unless the neighborhood is able to raise a lot of money.
- 1:12:31Speaker 2: Same sort of energy going into this. It looks adorable, Yeah,
- 1:12:36Speaker 2: it really does.
- 1:12:39Speaker 1: It looks really cute. Next, we've talked a little bit
- 1:12:43Speaker 1: about geeked week stuff already, Black Mirror, The Remarkable Life
- 1:12:48Speaker 1: of Iblin. We're going to talk about another scary movie.
- 1:12:52Speaker 1: But yet. Netflix this week released all of the stuff
- 1:12:56Speaker 1: that they consider geeky that's coming out, kind of like
- 1:12:59Speaker 1: a mini to Doom, but more targeted, I feel like,
- 1:13:04Speaker 1: and theme. The theme of it, to me seems to
- 1:13:08Speaker 1: be not everything because there's a lot like there's a
- 1:13:11Speaker 1: preview for Squid Games two and Wednesday to second season,
- 1:13:16Speaker 1: and Avatar The lest Airbender second season and stuff like that.
- 1:13:20Speaker 1: But it felt very much like, Hey, we're really getting
- 1:13:23Speaker 1: into anime, action action and anime.
- 1:13:27Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of that. There's a Devil May
- 1:13:32Speaker 2: Cry was getting an anime adaptation, and we got information
- 1:13:37Speaker 2: about that it's gonna be airing starting in April twenty
- 1:13:43Speaker 2: twenty five, so we got a bit of a wait
- 1:13:46Speaker 2: before that series comes to Netflix. But that's one example.
- 1:13:52Speaker 2: You know, There's there's some others as well, a splinter
- 1:13:55Speaker 2: Cell death Watch, like a lot of video game animated adaptation, that's.
- 1:13:59Speaker 1: Right, yeah, Cyberpunkchlora Croft, Castlevania Magic The Gathering is not
- 1:14:05Speaker 1: a video game, but I feel like it still falls
- 1:14:07Speaker 1: into that.
- 1:14:08Speaker 2: Yeah, is that one going to be animated? I guess
- 1:14:10Speaker 2: so it looks like it is. Yeah.
- 1:14:12Speaker 1: Yeah, Rebel Moon's getting a video game that's animated, which.
- 1:14:16Speaker 2: Oh I can't I can't wait for people to talk
- 1:14:18Speaker 2: about how derivative that video game is.
- 1:14:22Speaker 1: True. There is an anime that I'm kind of looking
- 1:14:25Speaker 1: forward to called Soakamoto Days, which looks like it looks
- 1:14:30Speaker 1: like if if John Wick were a happy grandpa.
- 1:14:35Speaker 2: Yeah, Wilford Bremley as John Wick.
- 1:14:40Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And then there's a kind of it's got
- 1:14:44Speaker 1: like ourcane style animation vibes. A Wolf King series.
- 1:14:50Speaker 2: Based off ware World books, yeah, by Curtis Jobbling. Yeah.
- 1:14:54Speaker 1: I haven't read at all.
- 1:14:57Speaker 2: I've heard about them, but I also have not read them,
- 1:15:00Speaker 2: so I don't really have an insight into that one.
- 1:15:03Speaker 1: Yeah. But there are two things I hadn't heard about
- 1:15:05Speaker 1: that are not anime cartoons that both look kind of
- 1:15:08Speaker 1: interesting to me. And one is it's a tie series
- 1:15:11Speaker 1: called Tomorrow and I, which has like a very do
- 1:15:17Speaker 1: Electric Sheep Dream sort of a vibe to it.
- 1:15:21Speaker 2: Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
- 1:15:24Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah. The TV show had a slightly different name
- 1:15:28Speaker 1: I couldn't remember. And then the Platform two, which is
- 1:15:32Speaker 1: a Spanish Spanish sci fi thriller that apparently had a
- 1:15:37Speaker 1: first one. Yeah, it's interesting.
- 1:15:41Speaker 2: I don't think i've heard about the Platform. I may
- 1:15:43Speaker 2: have to check that out, because, yeah, I like a
- 1:15:50Speaker 2: good sci fi thriller, but I had not heard about
- 1:15:53Speaker 2: the Platform, and I'm curious about it now.
- 1:15:57Speaker 1: So it's like a dystopian class based structure that people
- 1:16:01Speaker 1: live in where the very rich start at the top,
- 1:16:03Speaker 1: and once a day food is put on a platform
- 1:16:05Speaker 1: and the very rich get to eat as much as
- 1:16:07Speaker 1: they want, and the platform stops on each level of
- 1:16:10Speaker 1: the structure that people live in.
- 1:16:12Speaker 2: Got it, So the people at the bottom just get
- 1:16:14Speaker 2: whatever scraps may be left over. So essentially, it's snow Piercer,
- 1:16:19Speaker 2: but instead of a train, it's a platform kind of Yeah, yeah,
- 1:16:25Speaker 2: spoiler for snow Piercer. But if you're in the back
- 1:16:27Speaker 2: of the train, you got it rough.
- 1:16:29Speaker 1: Yeah, I've only seen the sushi scene.
- 1:16:33Speaker 2: It is worth watching. I like Snow Piercer a lot.
- 1:16:36Speaker 2: I mean I've already said that, I don't need to
- 1:16:38Speaker 2: say it.
- 1:16:38Speaker 1: Again, gotcha. And then another thing that they announced on
- 1:16:42Speaker 1: geeked week was a movie being produced by Sam Raimi
- 1:16:47Speaker 1: called Don't Move, which Jonathan says is terrifying, and I agree.
- 1:16:51Speaker 1: The trailer looks absolutely terrifying.
- 1:16:55Speaker 2: Yeah, this falls into that categorory of woman being preyed
- 1:17:03Speaker 2: upon by predatory man, and in this case, the woman
- 1:17:08Speaker 2: in question is injected with a substance that is slowly
- 1:17:15Speaker 2: paralyzing her and that within twenty minutes she will lose
- 1:17:19Speaker 2: the ability to move. And it looks like it's almost done,
- 1:17:23Speaker 2: like the most dangerous game kind of thing, Like he's
- 1:17:27Speaker 2: injecting her and then giving her a head start to
- 1:17:30Speaker 2: try and get away and hide, knowing that as time
- 1:17:34Speaker 2: goes on, it's gonna be harder and harder for her
- 1:17:37Speaker 2: to do that, to the point where she's just barely
- 1:17:39Speaker 2: able to crawl. And then the trailer includes sequences where
- 1:17:44Speaker 2: she's laying motionless in different locations. There's no indication of
- 1:17:49Speaker 2: how she got there necessarily, but rest assured every situation
- 1:17:55Speaker 2: she's in is presented in a way where it looks
- 1:17:58Speaker 2: super dangerous for her. Yeah.
- 1:18:01Speaker 1: Yeah, she runs across a couple of people and so
- 1:18:04Speaker 1: not sure why they aren't helping her if that's part
- 1:18:06Speaker 1: of the commentary of the movie.
- 1:18:08Speaker 2: Yeah, or if they're just like just as predatory but
- 1:18:11Speaker 2: in a different way or whatever.
- 1:18:13Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say this set off in me a
- 1:18:19Speaker 1: discomfort based on my sleep paralysis, because when I have
- 1:18:23Speaker 1: an episode of sleep paralysis, I can't move, and this
- 1:18:27Speaker 1: set that off in me. And like, it's not that
- 1:18:30Speaker 1: I couldn't move, but I had that same like anxiety
- 1:18:32Speaker 1: watching it, which I guess is really great. It's evocative
- 1:18:35Speaker 1: of what they're trying to make the danger feel like,
- 1:18:38Speaker 1: so good job. It looks very well produced. Yep, I
- 1:18:43Speaker 1: think it'll be too scary for me.
- 1:18:45Speaker 2: Yeah. The problem I see as far as me going
- 1:18:49Speaker 2: to see this film is that I could go by
- 1:18:51Speaker 2: myself because I know Becca will absolutely not want to
- 1:18:55Speaker 2: watch it, Like this is not her thing. She would
- 1:18:57Speaker 2: not want to see it. And the nature of the
- 1:19:01Speaker 2: horror is such that I don't really feel comfortable asking
- 1:19:04Speaker 2: any of my close friends, who are all women, if
- 1:19:08Speaker 2: any of them would want to go see the movie
- 1:19:10Speaker 2: with me, because it just feels insensitive, right, Like, Hey,
- 1:19:16Speaker 2: you're a woman who has to deal with the harsh
- 1:19:20Speaker 2: reality that is sometimes you're in situations with a man
- 1:19:25Speaker 2: you may or may not know that can be really
- 1:19:28Speaker 2: anxiety inducing and that's just your life. Want to go
- 1:19:33Speaker 2: see a movie where that's turned up to eleven?
- 1:19:36Speaker 1: Well, don't worry. You don't necessarily have to ask anybody
- 1:19:39Speaker 1: to go with you because it's coming out on Netflix.
- 1:19:41Speaker 2: Oh that's fine. I can watch it then by myself on.
- 1:19:43Speaker 1: October twenty fifth. I don't you. So that doesn't necessarily
- 1:19:48Speaker 1: mean that it won't also.
- 1:19:49Speaker 2: Get a.
- 1:19:51Speaker 1: Theatrical release. Some things do. I don't know if this
- 1:19:55Speaker 1: one is, because again, it was a part of Geeked Week.
- 1:19:58Speaker 1: So yeah, the next thing surprises me that it's happening.
- 1:20:06Speaker 2: Yeah, we're getting an Australian version, like an Australian take
- 1:20:13Speaker 2: on a comedy series that has enjoyed great success in
- 1:20:19Speaker 2: two other versions, one for the UK and one for America.
- 1:20:22Speaker 1: And it is The Office, which you know, the whole
- 1:20:29Speaker 1: point of it is is how inappropriate the boss is.
- 1:20:34Speaker 1: But this time the boss is a woman and Dwhite
- 1:20:36Speaker 1: is a woman.
- 1:20:38Speaker 2: And I fully support both decisions because this trailer I
- 1:20:43Speaker 2: thought was very funny.
- 1:20:45Speaker 1: I thought the trailer was funny too. I was kind
- 1:20:47Speaker 1: of surprised because I feel like media has been moving
- 1:20:50Speaker 1: past that kind of humor. Into more situational humor lately
- 1:20:56Speaker 1: in the past five years, and The Office is not
- 1:20:58Speaker 1: situational humor. The Office I wouldn't even say it's punching
- 1:21:02Speaker 1: down humor because again it's the commentary on how wrong
- 1:21:06Speaker 1: some of this stuff is. It just yeah, it's it's
- 1:21:13Speaker 1: not what I expected to be coming out right now.
- 1:21:18Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean it's also Australia, and as we
- 1:21:20Speaker 2: all know, Australia is about fifteen years behind the rest
- 1:21:23Speaker 2: of the world, so it makes sense that grows.
- 1:21:27Speaker 1: Is that because they go backwards in time?
- 1:21:30Speaker 2: Yeah, it's because the toilets flushed the wrong way, which
- 1:21:33Speaker 2: is not true. But I thought it was funny to say, yeah,
- 1:21:37Speaker 2: I like this. I wasn't sure what to expect because,
- 1:21:41Speaker 2: like the first season of the American version of The Office,
- 1:21:43Speaker 2: really the first few episodes, not the full first season,
- 1:21:46Speaker 2: but the first few episodes of the American Office are
- 1:21:49Speaker 2: pretty bad because they were trying so hard to essentially
- 1:21:54Speaker 2: copy the UK version of the Office, and once they
- 1:21:59Speaker 2: got confident enough to sort of go their own way
- 1:22:04Speaker 2: with the concept while still like still maintaining the core
- 1:22:09Speaker 2: idea of this this boss who is completely clueless wants
- 1:22:15Speaker 2: to be loved wants people to want to go to
- 1:22:17Speaker 2: wherek and have work be the place where everybody wants
- 1:22:21Speaker 2: to be for eight hours out of a day, but
- 1:22:24Speaker 2: is incapable of seeing how inappropriate he is. That was
- 1:22:28Speaker 2: still the core of the office, but everything else kind
- 1:22:31Speaker 2: of developed its own personality, and that's where the US
- 1:22:33Speaker 2: one thrived. It looks to me, based upon the little
- 1:22:37Speaker 2: bit we got to see in this trailer, that the
- 1:22:39Speaker 2: Australian version isn't falling into that same trap like they
- 1:22:45Speaker 2: already they understand the assignment already.
- 1:22:48Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I So it's been so long since I've
- 1:22:53Speaker 1: seen the British version and I don't think I ever
- 1:22:54Speaker 1: watched it like straight through like I did with the
- 1:22:57Speaker 1: US Office. I think just because of availability right when
- 1:23:03Speaker 1: it was around. I know that part of the joy
- 1:23:06Speaker 1: in the original Office was watching Michael the Boss struggle
- 1:23:10Speaker 1: to become a better person.
- 1:23:13Speaker 2: Yeah, that is another thing in the UK one. Okay,
- 1:23:16Speaker 2: I don't he doesn't even try. He's unaware, He's unaware
- 1:23:21Speaker 2: that he's not a good person, gotcha.
- 1:23:23Speaker 1: I feel like there are times when Michael and the
- 1:23:25Speaker 1: US version did was aware and tried to do better,
- 1:23:29Speaker 1: and I thought it made him redeemable.
- 1:23:31Speaker 2: There are definitely episodes where he is like the worst
- 1:23:35Speaker 2: human being in the world. I'm thinking about one where
- 1:23:37Speaker 2: he has to go to a school. That is was
- 1:23:40Speaker 2: one of the hardest half hours of comedy to ever
- 1:23:43Speaker 2: I ever watched.
- 1:23:45Speaker 1: I agree, I agree it was hard. I liked the
- 1:23:47Speaker 1: way that episode ended kind of but but yeah, that
- 1:23:52Speaker 1: was really hard. I wonder, I wonder if the characters
- 1:23:56Speaker 1: of the Australian version will be at all redeemable.
- 1:23:58Speaker 2: I know that one of the acts was then the
- 1:24:02Speaker 2: film version of What We Do in the Shadows. Yeah, yeah,
- 1:24:06Speaker 2: so I was pleased to see him in it. Yeah,
- 1:24:10Speaker 2: I think it looks funny. I don't know if we
- 1:24:13Speaker 2: will have access to watch this series because it was
- 1:24:17Speaker 2: being it was posted by the Australian slash New Zealand
- 1:24:22Speaker 2: version of Netflix, and not everything gets ported over to
- 1:24:28Speaker 2: the United States, so I didn't look into that.
- 1:24:31Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope, I hope it does get ported over,
- 1:24:33Speaker 1: though I would watch it. I've been I've been wanting, Oh,
- 1:24:38Speaker 1: it might come to It's not Netflix, It's Prime.
- 1:24:42Speaker 2: Oh, Prime, You're right, I'm sorry. I apologize.
- 1:24:45Speaker 1: Yes, Amazon Prime, the same thing applies. We may not
- 1:24:48Speaker 1: get it because right now it looks like it's releasing
- 1:24:53Speaker 1: everywhere except the US on October eighteenth, according to the
- 1:24:56Speaker 1: Hollywood Reporter. But hopefully we'll get it eventually. I can't
- 1:25:03Speaker 1: go back to my tap. Okay. The last thing we're
- 1:25:06Speaker 1: going to talk about is a movie called Sweet Pee Series.
- 1:25:11Speaker 1: Oh it's a series. Yeah, Oh I missed that.
- 1:25:15Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh. It's a series called Sweet Pee and it
- 1:25:19Speaker 2: is starring Ella Pernell, who most recently was in the
- 1:25:25Speaker 2: Fallout series.
- 1:25:27Speaker 1: She played the main character Lucy.
- 1:25:29Speaker 2: Yeah she is. She's rapidly becoming my next crush, Like
- 1:25:37Speaker 2: not surprised, you know, Anya Taylor Joy. I think it's
- 1:25:39Speaker 2: I think it's these actors with like big eyes, big
- 1:25:43Speaker 2: expressive eyes. Like that just gets me because Anya Taylor
- 1:25:47Speaker 2: Joy was she. I mean, I still love her. Anya,
- 1:25:50Speaker 2: if you're listening, I still love you. This is not me,
- 1:25:54Speaker 2: This is not me. Moving on. I think of myself
- 1:25:58Speaker 2: as a very large tent. There's room for everybody. So Ella,
- 1:26:02Speaker 2: come on in. But no, she's playing she's playing a
- 1:26:06Speaker 2: character who, like, I identify with her so much, just
- 1:26:11Speaker 2: from this trailer, which is like, have you ever been
- 1:26:14Speaker 2: in this situation where internally all you wanted to do
- 1:26:19Speaker 2: was strike out at somebody because they have just ticked
- 1:26:23Speaker 2: you off to the point where you, you know, you're
- 1:26:25Speaker 2: just like I wish I could just kick your butt
- 1:26:27Speaker 2: right now, or worse, like I wish I could just
- 1:26:30Speaker 2: wipe you off the face of the earth. I wish
- 1:26:32Speaker 2: I could just kill you leaders making me so mad.
- 1:26:35Speaker 2: That's kind of the premise here, except that she appears
- 1:26:38Speaker 2: to give in to that impulse and actually does start
- 1:26:42Speaker 2: doing it, Like she starts to let herself kill people
- 1:26:45Speaker 2: who have pushed her to the point where she just
- 1:26:47Speaker 2: doesn't want to take it anymore. And it's presented in
- 1:26:51Speaker 2: a dark comedy kind of way. It's not done purely
- 1:26:54Speaker 2: as like horror or thriller or anything like that. And
- 1:26:59Speaker 2: as I was watching the trailer, I'm like, man, I
- 1:27:02Speaker 2: don't know that I've felt this sympathetic toward a character
- 1:27:06Speaker 2: who is clearly a killer since maybe Barry. Yeah.
- 1:27:13Speaker 1: It is interesting because I mean, I can't say we all,
- 1:27:15Speaker 1: but I feel like most of us, especially if you're
- 1:27:17Speaker 1: listening to this podcast, have probably been made to feel
- 1:27:20Speaker 1: less than by others. You know, I've never wanted to
- 1:27:23Speaker 1: kill anybody. I certainly have wanted to, like squeeze somebody's
- 1:27:28Speaker 1: face and she'd be like Ahi, but not to the
- 1:27:31Speaker 1: point of injury, just like, ah.
- 1:27:34Speaker 2: You're a better person than I am. I have I
- 1:27:37Speaker 2: have had. I have had those homicidal flights of fantasy,
- 1:27:41Speaker 2: which I never would act on. I'm a very non
- 1:27:43Speaker 2: violent person. I haven't even been in a fight, let
- 1:27:46Speaker 2: alone anything more serious than that. But like those little
- 1:27:50Speaker 2: moments of just like a psychotic day dream that was
- 1:27:54Speaker 2: sparked by some sort of negative interaction, I've definitely had those.
- 1:27:59Speaker 1: I am I hate bugs. They gross me out. I
- 1:28:02Speaker 1: looked at a couple of them too closely, and now
- 1:28:04Speaker 1: I can't. I can't plus ladybugs bite me. But I
- 1:28:10Speaker 1: still feel bad if I go to squish a bug
- 1:28:11Speaker 1: and I don't kill it on the first try. So, yeah, I.
- 1:28:16Speaker 2: Like.
- 1:28:16Speaker 1: I like fighting, like I love stage combat. I love
- 1:28:19Speaker 1: playing barbarians and aggression. But I don't like I don't. Yeah,
- 1:28:23Speaker 1: I don't have killer tendencies.
- 1:28:26Speaker 2: Yeah. I think this is also why I like playing
- 1:28:28Speaker 2: bad guys, because in real life, I am not a
- 1:28:32Speaker 2: bad guy.
- 1:28:33Speaker 1: I don't not you're a very good guy.
- 1:28:35Speaker 2: I don't. I don't seek out harming other people or
- 1:28:39Speaker 2: or even trying to benefit at the expense of someone else.
- 1:28:43Speaker 2: I try very hard not to do those kinds of things,
- 1:28:46Speaker 2: so it but it is fun in a pretend kind
- 1:28:50Speaker 2: of way to engage in that. So when I saw this,
- 1:28:52Speaker 2: I was just like, oh, I can't wait to watch this.
- 1:28:56Speaker 2: It looks it looks like it's going to be darkly hilarious.
- 1:29:01Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I think it might be for
- 1:29:04Speaker 1: Anya Taylor Joy and also Ella Purnell. What what appeals
- 1:29:09Speaker 1: to me, and not not in a crush way, but
- 1:29:14Speaker 1: just in a like you seem really cool, is that
- 1:29:17Speaker 1: they are both very attractive people, uniquely attractive people who
- 1:29:25Speaker 1: that's not their stick like they they're happy to be
- 1:29:31Speaker 1: quirky or weird or.
- 1:29:34Speaker 2: You know, yeah, they're not. They're not. They're not demanding
- 1:29:38Speaker 2: that every project they work on makes them look like
- 1:29:43Speaker 2: gorgeous and glamorous and you know, uh, you know, like
- 1:29:48Speaker 2: untouchable or anything like that. They end up taking on
- 1:29:51Speaker 2: these very unusual roles that end up suiting them incredibly well. Yeah,
- 1:29:58Speaker 2: I always get the feeling. Well, if you ever watch
- 1:30:01Speaker 2: behind the scenes footage of Parnell, she just comes across
- 1:30:05Speaker 2: as a huge dufus And I mean that in the
- 1:30:09Speaker 2: nicest way. I think Florence Peugh sometimes comes across this
- 1:30:12Speaker 2: way too, Like, these are people who have impeccable style.
- 1:30:17Speaker 2: When you see them dressed up for stuff, it's insane,
- 1:30:20Speaker 2: like a level of style I can't even begin to comprehend.
- 1:30:24Speaker 2: But then you watch behind the scenes stuff and they're
- 1:30:26Speaker 2: just goofballs, and I'm like, I love that they don't
- 1:30:31Speaker 2: take themselves that seriously all the time, and that they
- 1:30:33Speaker 2: can cut loose and be goofy and have fun, and
- 1:30:37Speaker 2: that just really appeals to me.
- 1:30:39Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it is so important, And I don't
- 1:30:41Speaker 1: know if this is the case with them, but I
- 1:30:42Speaker 1: think it is so important that if you are in Hollywood,
- 1:30:46Speaker 1: that you don't let that become your whole personality.
- 1:30:49Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree. I mean, I guess it works
- 1:30:52Speaker 2: like for some people who still like there's only arguably
- 1:30:56Speaker 2: there's only a couple of people out there now who
- 1:30:58Speaker 2: still kind of fit the bill of movie star in
- 1:31:02Speaker 2: the classic sense, if you could argue Tom Cruise is
- 1:31:04Speaker 2: still that. But I'm cool with that. I actually kind
- 1:31:09Speaker 2: of prefer having real people who are also just damn
- 1:31:14Speaker 2: good at acting like that really is. I prefer that
- 1:31:19Speaker 2: to iconic persona who just plays themselves in everything they're in.
- 1:31:26Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, for sure. Like Jason Momoa pouring drinks
- 1:31:31Speaker 1: in Atlanta last weekend.
- 1:31:34Speaker 2: Yeah no, you sent me that and I was like what, Yeah,
- 1:31:37Speaker 2: apparently that's like a whole thing. It's one of those things,
- 1:31:39Speaker 2: kind of like how Ryan Reynolds bought a gen company. Yeah,
- 1:31:43Speaker 2: you know, you have like this thing where you've got
- 1:31:45Speaker 2: actors who have bought into various companies. And as part
- 1:31:51Speaker 2: of promotion, Jason Momoa is in town mixing cocktails for
- 1:31:55Speaker 2: this one group of fans, which cool.
- 1:32:01Speaker 1: Interesting.
- 1:32:01Speaker 2: I can't drink, so I guess I wouldn't get to go.
- 1:32:05Speaker 1: Maybe you could get a non non vodka.
- 1:32:08Speaker 2: Mixing Hi, mister Jason Momoa, I can't drink alcohol. Could
- 1:32:12Speaker 2: you make me a mocktail and maybe a huge.
- 1:32:15Speaker 1: I bet you could have asked that.
- 1:32:17Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:32:20Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's and he would have called you sweet pea.
- 1:32:26Speaker 1: There we go full circle.
- 1:32:27Speaker 2: Awesome, Yeah, great, great way to put a button on
- 1:32:30Speaker 2: the episode.
- 1:32:31Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all we've got to talk about. And I
- 1:32:34Speaker 1: am pressing my luck before there are people staring in
- 1:32:38Speaker 1: my windows at me while I talk on this microphone.
- 1:32:41Speaker 1: So Jonathan, if people want to reach out to us
- 1:32:44Speaker 1: about any of the things we've talked about, or what
- 1:32:48Speaker 1: in geek Week they're excited about, or anything else like that.
- 1:32:51Speaker 1: How do they do that?
- 1:32:52Speaker 2: So you're gonna have to develop a high concept pitch
- 1:32:55Speaker 2: for a movie about the class system and how the
- 1:33:01Speaker 2: people in upper classes are able to enjoy a life
- 1:33:05Speaker 2: that people in lower classes have no access to, and
- 1:33:08Speaker 2: how inherently unfair that is, and that this isn't like
- 1:33:12Speaker 2: a meritocracy. It's not that the people who are enjoying
- 1:33:15Speaker 2: life deserve it because they've earned it. It's just, you know,
- 1:33:19Speaker 2: the luck of the draw, essentially. And you want to
- 1:33:23Speaker 2: find a really good metaphor to tell this story. But
- 1:33:27Speaker 2: you know, snow Piercer already dead, the train and the
- 1:33:29Speaker 2: platform already did like a structure that has multiple levels,
- 1:33:33Speaker 2: the top of which is the most desirable place. So
- 1:33:36Speaker 2: your big idea is you're going to use a carousel
- 1:33:40Speaker 2: to tell your story. Here's the tricky part. Carousels don't
- 1:33:43Speaker 2: have a beginning and an end. They're a circle. So
- 1:33:46Speaker 2: you're going to really have to crack the nut on
- 1:33:48Speaker 2: this so that you can figure out who is it
- 1:33:52Speaker 2: that enjoys the greatest amount of privilege. Is it that
- 1:33:56Speaker 2: the people who are on the outside of the carousel,
- 1:33:58Speaker 2: because they have access to the outside world, are actually
- 1:34:01Speaker 2: the highest privilege. The ones on the inside aren't. And
- 1:34:04Speaker 2: also the ones on the outside. If it's one of
- 1:34:06Speaker 2: those old style carousels, they can reach up and grab
- 1:34:09Speaker 2: the brass ring. If you ever heard about grabbing the
- 1:34:11Speaker 2: brass ring that comes from carousels, Like some of these
- 1:34:13Speaker 2: carousels they have a little dispenser and little plastic rings
- 1:34:16Speaker 2: would be in there, and occasionally not a plastic ring
- 1:34:19Speaker 2: would come out, but a brass ring would come out,
- 1:34:22Speaker 2: and as you go around, you try to reach up
- 1:34:23Speaker 2: and you grab it. When you pull it out, you
- 1:34:25Speaker 2: see if you got a brass one or a plastic one, Well,
- 1:34:27Speaker 2: the people on the inside don't even get that chance.
- 1:34:29Speaker 2: They can't even grab the ring. So maybe that's the
- 1:34:32Speaker 2: way you go, or maybe you're like, no, no, no,
- 1:34:34Speaker 2: it's the ones who are on the bigger horses, which
- 1:34:37Speaker 2: isn't so much on the outside. Sometimes those might be
- 1:34:39Speaker 2: on the inside, but if it's a bigger horse, they're
- 1:34:41Speaker 2: the privileged class. And if you're the one who's just
- 1:34:44Speaker 2: on the turtle and it doesn't even go up and down.
- 1:34:46Speaker 2: You're like the lowest of the low. Nobody wants the turtle,
- 1:34:50Speaker 2: he's stupid. Whatever it is, you gotta crack that code.
- 1:34:55Speaker 2: Once you get there, you're gonna take your pitch. You're
- 1:34:58Speaker 2: gonna schlep over to all the different movie studios. Now listen,
- 1:35:01Speaker 2: it's gonna be rough because you're gonna be facing a
- 1:35:04Speaker 2: lot of rejection that's gonna make you feel like you
- 1:35:07Speaker 2: want to kill somebody. And ultimately you're gonna go into
- 1:35:11Speaker 2: one studio and you're gonna sit there and the guy's
- 1:35:14Speaker 2: gonna laugh you out of the room, just talking about
- 1:35:17Speaker 2: how derivative and simplistic your ideas. That's when you're gonna snap.
- 1:35:22Speaker 2: You're gonna take the Replica Academy award that's on this
- 1:35:26Speaker 2: guy's desk. Turns out he'd never even want it, and
- 1:35:29Speaker 2: you just whack him right upside the head until his
- 1:35:32Speaker 2: skull cracks. And then you're gonna hear the door open
- 1:35:35Speaker 2: and you're gonna think, oh, no, what have I done.
- 1:35:37Speaker 2: I've been caught. But you're gonna say it's me and
- 1:35:38Speaker 2: you're gonna be like, Jonathan, I have two questions for you. One,
- 1:35:43Speaker 2: can you help me move this body. And two it
- 1:35:46Speaker 2: can be whatever it is from LLENC and I'll answer.
- 1:35:49Speaker 1: But he won't help you move the body.
- 1:35:50Speaker 2: Uh oh, I got a bad back.
- 1:35:52Speaker 1: Yeah. And if you're like Jonathan, you already answered the
- 1:35:56Speaker 1: question the highest privileges that horses that go with the
- 1:35:58Speaker 1: highest on the outside. Or if you're favorite carousel character
- 1:36:02Speaker 1: is the turtle because you can just curl up on
- 1:36:04Speaker 1: it and take a nap. Then you can reach out
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- 1:36:40Speaker 1: am Ariel. I need to get more gushers.
- 1:36:43Speaker 2: Casting I am Jonathan. I'm a turtle Strickland.
- 1:36:47Speaker 1: I like turtles, stupid, stupid, They're awesome and they eat pizza.
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