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NFL Draft and Hokie All Access · Boundary Corner Podcast

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Welcome back to the boundary cornered podcast.
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My name is Curtis Wilson. I'm Brian siglo buddy.
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Thursday night. We recording.
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We are recording the beers. We got beers, not only beers
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party, would fighting hokey Bruce.
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Thank you, Wegmans for carrying it is your pump buddy.
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Clink, he's playing Keys. Cheers, yes sir.
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Hopefully, this fall and Lane Stadium after the announcement
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that all. Everything is going to be
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lifted. Come June, 15th, they're selling
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those bad boys after the announcement last week about
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beers going to be sold that stick it in anything, but I'd
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love to see those two and only those two that support the
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school. They'll about you beer in lame,
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man, beer in lame, that's a brand new way of life.
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Life and I can't wait to experience it man.
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Well I just hope it's not one of those things me and you roll up
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there on a Saturday and we tell our wives like, oh yeah, we're
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gonna go off, you know, we're going to hit Todd's have a
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couple drinks go to stay Liam. Watch gain will be home about
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midnight, 1:00 about 8:00. It's, we look at each other
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Ryan. We're not making it back to the
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RV, a tonight. It ain't happening.
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It ain't happening. We will have to find somewhere.
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That's um we just do / / Roanoke with Jason long.
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The chief musical officer here at the boundary Court podcast.
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Really I did we sleep in your basement?
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Tell Liz, we're stopping by. Yeah, tell it.
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We're stopping by. I don't know how that'll roll
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man but you've been good this week.
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I've been good man. It's been a it's been a good
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week. We had a Good draft cold, sir,
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Colts did pretty. Well, didn't go.
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Where I thought we were going in the early rounds, but I think
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overall, I like the draft. What about you?
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How about, how about your Niners?
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I know you dodged a bullet, there bud.
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All right. That first Pig we were on the
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phone with it. And when Trail and his name came
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up, it was like, that's the pick where we are.
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Situationally. That is the pic you make.
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You know, unbelievable, Talent, Big Arm athleticism playing in a
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pro style under Center. Big play action, Run game down
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at North Dakota State and I was extremely happy, you know, and
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for everybody said mag Jones back.
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Do first of all Niners, don't leak.
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The guy's mind, things up at the press conferences.
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And I think I told you about my theory was His pro day was on
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the 12th. Two weeks later, we make the
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trade two days later, he goes to work with John Beck, dip, it
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just made sense. It's like I think we like Justin
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Fields, not think they like Matt Jones to in a way.
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They evaluated all three, but Trey was that guy, you know?
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And then for us, you know, we pick up Banks out of Notre Dame,
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the big guard sermon out of Ohio State.
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Interesting, Pig up hours owner. First time we've ever taken
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positions that are under this regime, and then the river
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Thomas from Michigan, actually. Mocked him like us where 15
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times at 10 to the ones safety. And then last pic was the, the
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running back at a lot Tech thing as latte.
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Lafayette Mitchell, who's like a 4-3-3 cat, you know, a couple of
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things I didn't like we didn't hit, but I think it's one of
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those where We didn't need it but it is what it is.
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What's your, what's your other few favorite pics?
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Besides that first. Rounder and so we got quitting
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pay in the first round. Defensive end went right back
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again to defensive end with day while being bow.
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I feel like that's actually probably the higher I guess
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probably higher floor player. I don't know if he's going to
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necessarily pop like like quit. He has the potential to do but
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he's definitely a guy that you can put in there and be a
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productive. Rotational guy potential
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starter. I like the pickup of Kyle and
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Grandson at a SMU, the tight end, Sean Davis nother solid
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pick their its safety scratch my head a little bit with with Sam
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ehlinger, but I think Kind of a versatile type player that can
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throw the football. You know, could give us some
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other things to do at the quarterback position there.
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So that's interesting. We had Mike stretching at
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Charleston wide receiver and then we finally went offensive
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line late in the draft got will freeze at Penn State guard.
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So overall a good draft. Like I said, I think just not
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going either tackle or some offensive line position earlier
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shocked. Me and probably I think shocked
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a lot of Colts fans, but doubling down on edge, is not a
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bad choice because we need to get after the quarterback.
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No, not at all. Bubbling down on edge, is never
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a bad choice, because get after the quarterback is such a key.
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Now Brian, the Hokies have for draft picks.
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Obviously, the first one kind of broke your heart a little bit.
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Caleb Farley going to the Titans in division.
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Yeah, well so happy for that kids.
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So happy for Caleb. You know, unfortunately he gets
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a positive covid test two days before the draft, so he can't go
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up and walk across the stage but man, I love that.
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He's going to a defensive minded head coach love that.
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Yeah, good. Good to go to defensive-minded
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head coach. You know, still guys in the
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first round, despite some of the the buzz about the injuries and
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things like that, they were going around, glad to see that.
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You know, teams didn't quite take that as seriously as maybe
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some of the pundits did and 22 little sad for me that he's at
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the Titans. So I'll be pulling for him
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occasionally but names a year. Yeah, exactly.
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Unless it's like, we ate 17 and if they win, they're in your out
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like sorry. Caleb lose.
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You will lose it. Now didn't take long to the You
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know, he was off the board after candle, when all the 22, 23
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Minnesota Vikings, select Christian.
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Dara saw Big Sea, Dog going up to the North country and they
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needed line, help. Obviously, they're sticking with
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Kirk right now is a quarterback. They took mon later, but, you
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know, you think about what Mike Zimmer likes to do?
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Is no cool guy. He's a big run.
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The football, they've got Dalvin cook you You know, you're still
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paying Kirk a lot of money tend to have a rookie come in.
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I think they've knocked it out of the park, personal knocked it
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out of the park. Absolutely.
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It's what they needed. It's what they needed to help
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with the, the way their scheme operates.
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So, great scheme. Pick great need pick and I just,
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I think he's going to do really well with the Vikings and I feel
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like they still got a steel getting him as late as 23
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because I could have seen him going.
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In the top 10. He's really could have, um, in
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the one pig trying to think it was the god of USC, who was
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where a lot of people put what fourth, or fifth offensive
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tackle. The Jets traded up to get him a
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little interested by that. Because of what they do, I
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always thought Tucker was more of a power guy versus a Zone.
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And since they're going to be running the Shanahan offensive
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war zone, war zone plays than anything.
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Thing, you know, I didn't quite agree with that and then he
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flips down. It's all good.
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He still great spot for him. Probably a better spot.
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He's going to a team that up until last year had been a
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playoff team, he's going to a good culture team, same with
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portal. If both want to really good
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teams where, you know, they don't have to come in here and
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make a big splash. They just come in there and do
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their job and Are building their reputations up.
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Yep. Exactly.
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So next in a probably guy looking like he was going to be
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probably somewhere between 120 160 Divine.
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Diablo goes way up but it is graders.
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That's the Raiders. That's not a shock.
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Those to pick a tea in the most interesting part.
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I don't know if you caught this on Friday night From.
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Did you hear what? They announced a mass.
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Yes, weak side outside linebacker right?
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We and what divine being 63 225? I mean, you can do it.
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Yeah, I think that's a good fit for him because it lets it plays
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to his strengths and it also gives the Raiders versatile
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nickel package where they can kind of do a lot of different
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things. Don't his alignment pre-snap.
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So I like that for them being able to not have to solve a lot.
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So I think that's a good pick for them and, you know, the
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Raiders not quite as stable, I guess of a franchise as the
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Titans and Vikings have been of late, but at the same time, not
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terribly, very, very feast, or famine type type franchise, but
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definitely some potential there with, with Chucky pulling the
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strings. Absolutely again.
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I think it's keep it, it's good. I think just the way he's built,
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he's becoming you're going to see it more and more guys who
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played the free and strong positions in college who don't
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quite have the great range, but can tackle still have good
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speed. They're going to start putting
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that weak side. Linebacker to your point.
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It gives you excellent. Excellent nickel packages
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because guys like him, although against guys like George Kettle
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in the elite tight end, Still might not be able to completely
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contain or completely control them.
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He will contain them to, you know, he had six catches for 80
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yards great, well if you put the other smell out there he would
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have went 12 4190 into touchdown.
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It needs. We have someone that can control
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in a little bit because of size and feet.
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Exactly. All right.
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Last hope you went off the board to me.
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So many running back will pick the head of him.
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Including, you know, my team picking one ahead of him Khalil.
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Herbert goes to the Bears. What a story from born in
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Kansas? I'm having some monster games
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there but never becoming the one.
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Transferring, the portal coming to Tech season without paying
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having one of the most unbelievable seasons for a
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running back in the history rivaling, you know, David
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Wilson's, Brian Williams Darren Evans.
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Thugs type Seasons. I mean, just just just so happy
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for him because that guy went on a journey from Florida.
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I mean, a journey we think that fit for him there.
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I think fit is going to be. I think it's good because he can
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work some, as we've seen we he did a lot with with kick return.
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He can work some there and he because of the stable of running
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backs they had it's going to be a little tough sledding to get
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snatched, but I think he's a very good complementary.
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A fit in a kind of a three type skill, specific rotation there
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and I think he could work himself into a position where
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he's kind of that that one a in the, in the rotation.
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So I'm hoping that he does. Well, I think I mean obviously
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we followed him all year incredible season, use numbers,
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third in the country and all-purpose yards.
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What s? The ACC in rushing yards.
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I mean he went out there and completely tore it up for us
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this past year. And you know, he showed that you
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know we saw flashes of it at Kansas in a shared role once he
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got the lead back status with us, he really showed that he
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could carry that load and do everything that a running back
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is asked of Absolutely couple other undrafted guys Jarrod
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Hewitt to the Seahawks Oscar. Brad Burns going to get a chance
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with the Vikings Brian Johnson with the Bears.
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Justice Reed going down to the Titan.
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So other guys getting signed, I know I'm probably missing a
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couple. I'm trying my best here, but
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those guys are least getting can't advise for a way to work.
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Potentially on it. The one of those for, I
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mentioned to watch out for, to get a starting job.
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Job Brian Johnson Bears your troubles he just goes out there
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and makes like from 45 to 50 consistently.
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They'll be like you're a kicker. If you're if you're making most
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of your under 50s especially if they're if most of those are
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over 40 they don't keep you. Yes, they all because they've
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had struggles. If you can bring some degree of
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consistency to that kicking game, that's going to keep you a
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job. Abso-freakin'-lutely.
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All right, let's turn little more serious note, you know,
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Devon Hunters. Plea agreement came through a
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little earlier this week. Probably, the biggest things
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that came out of this brown was obviously all the charges went
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from felonies down to misdemeanors.
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He will not serve any time other than the, essentially a couple
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days. He spent after the initial
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incident, basically two-year terms, spend it all, but One day
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for each year, you know? I mean, it took, what is it
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almost a year we're closing in on almost you're closing in on a
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year? I think it was what late June?
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Yeah, I think late June last year now.
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September last year so I could you know it's been covid guys.
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Excuse the faulty memory you know happens it happens to us
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all but now you know that passed him the way it kind of seemed he
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wanted to fight it eventually he said to himself I need to get on
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with college and other things on a chase in my life.
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This gives it down to here. And I can move on the Aquatic, a
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step forward move on. And, you know, we had talked
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about it. I posted on the, on the Twitter
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account there, you know. Hopefully, there's a path for
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him back for the Hokies. If not, I'm hoping there's a
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bathroom Back to Football somewhere.
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Good kid. I think, you know, and
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everything that he's said and done since then, I think he's
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been the right step. And, you know sometimes Life
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judges US based on on our one, bad choice there.
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And I feel like that's something that happened with him and I
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feel like he's definitely put that past him and is ready to
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move forward. And I'm hoping that he gets an
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opportunity if not in Blacksburg somewhere else.
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Yeah. If not in Blacksburg somewhere
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else hopefully in Blacksburg, you know because essentially if
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you remember everything going through all pant kind of getting
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the wheels turning here, he was doing everything was that tune?
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It looks like he was going to start at You know, Rover
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boundary safety last year. And obviously he when everything
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happened, he was out kind of change the complexity of the
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defense, she didn't have him to bind in the Middle where the
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find the starter, you know, Hunter more of the freak.
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So I don't know what has to happen.
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I know. It's probably going to be J
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board stuff or J board type stuff with, you know, Virginia
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Tech itself and then the athletics department would.
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But with the felonies gone, there's that path in me.
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E. Now it's the university with
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Babcock and then Justin its own. It's those three guys that have
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to make the decision in for kid, has been here for three plus
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years. This is the only thing he was
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done. I recruit had done everything
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asked of him. Took a red shirt.
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Did not complain. I really hope they say come
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back. Yeah, I'm right there with you
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man. Absolutely.
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Hopefully that we find something out on that front in the next
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couple weeks. But as you said getting the
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felony charges out there mean that there's no longer the the
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automatic barrier to return and removing that hopefully the
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wheels start turning here and we can get get some some Headway on
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whether or not Hunter can rejoin, the team sometime soon.
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Hopefully. Alright, news breaking today,
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that that Okey Twitter again, all three one-way weak, man.
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It's been a week, ohnoki, Twitter, he's just crying.
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Sometimes, I didn't win, if y'all just need to take about 10
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shots and just go to sleep. But I'm already Saunders, took a
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portal, the three-star Bill freshman out of Jacksonville,
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you know, the Tweet seen cordial and what's teams like, you know,
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Projected. It's lat.
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First of all, Tavian Robinson, we know can play Survivor.
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So that hurt your chances right there, and then the Wayne law
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actually probably swiped the way in and then this happens.
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And then even the portal, you know, first of all, best of luck
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to him, whatever happens, I hope you land from where we can find
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the plane time. You you said something on
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Twitter and it's sort of summed up the way we kind of feel, we
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talked about it, you put it out there.
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Yeah. So I mean we're looking at it
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from a two-prong approach here. The problem that we're having
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big time is that outside of our first two guys?
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We don't have anyone proven to play outside.
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Trades are very solid outside player.
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If not spectacular and Tay makes Please.
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But is probably better suited for the slot outside of those
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guys. There's not a whole lot of
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proven talent that can play on the edge but we got a ton of
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guys that can play the slot. Now ton of guys and it's makes
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it hard for guys to to get enough snaps to really show
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their potential. And I'm sure something like that
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is what's going on with with Tyree there and he's a talented
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kid. Made some Huge plays down in
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Florida. And I feel like he's just a guy
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that thinks that given the opportunity, given the snap
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count in practice. He can show what he can do, get
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more playing time and another place.
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So that's the choice there and, you know, I don't blame him
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there. But let's go back to the problem
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that we're having. And we look at the outside,
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guys. And the slot guys, why are we
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building the roster like this? Well, to me, it's okay to be its
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own to people. It's on the head coach.
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It's on the offensive coordinator because, right?
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Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you.
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We can't blame the other side of the ball.
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He put them at this on your far Williams and saying depart,
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partially your fault, too. Potentially.
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Yeah, but Jafar isn't the one constructing the church.
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If our supposition coach far as the guy recruiting, It's how
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Brad and it's how Justin are constructing this.
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Yeah it goes. What's the blueprint?
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Like there is in and you gotta and you got to have like, even
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if you miss on the guy that you're targeting, you know, you
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got to have some sort of fall back that fits the type of
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player that you need to fill the areas of need.
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And I feel like we just haven't had that.
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I mean, maybe one of those other guys that's working in the slot.
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An can figure out how to figure out sliding outside.
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Maybe we'll see. But maybe, I mean, as of right
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now it's just we got a log Jam. It's lat including you know, the
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guy that we've been banding about for for a while here in
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Raheem Blackshear getting more snaps in the spring.
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Probably going to be at least the rotational at that position.
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If not the number one guy coming come fall.
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It's just it's going to be Tough to see the field and I think
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Saunders was a guy. That was probably saying if you
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do the right things, you're going to get some some time and
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it just hasn't come to fruition the way he wanted it to.
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So the biggest issue with me is we should be recruiting and
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maybe some of these guys are playing X and y's, that's what
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you recruit because to me it's more than likely and you talked
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about this with Lyman Recruit the tackles if they can't play
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tackle can always go inside. If you can't play the x or the
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Y, you can always go inside likely to that position and it
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seems like the guys like your ass lat.
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This is what you are. This is what you are instead of
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looking at the 10,000 foot view. It's the or urine X and your y
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on your are receiving Corps is looking like the early 2000's
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ready? Skins were like all the damn
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receivers are like 6 foot or under yeah, like Santana Moss
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and all right. Yeah, yeah.
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The early, those are those early Randall L and yeah, everybody
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would have ball. So, again, it's on to people why
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he's leaving the program. You know, if ands and buts
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Blaine coaching staff because it is coaching staffs fault, not
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recruiting correctly and that is what it is.
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So, you know, now let's go to something that will make, you
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know, some people really happy the hard hat winners for 2020
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162 total, which you know, out of 85 on scholarship.
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I couldn't tell you how many are walk on the primary and not but
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roughly with 100 plus guys you're looking at refits of your
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roster or hidden certain benchmarks in the weight room
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which is Great. Now I look a little bit closer
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and mean both did this, who are the top guys?
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Obviously, you would only see network is morning Dax,
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hollifield was the top guy. Followed by Luke bustle, the
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walk-on wide receiver potentially.
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Maybe he's getting some PT in the fall with your lightest
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evangelicals and then you know nor L Pollard since the climate
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is definitely going to be on the committee, awesome to see
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blackston Burmeister the potential starting quarterback.
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For the Hokies we keep going down, hide Brock Hoffman and Let
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It Go Smith. I love that.
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Those two guys, Marco Lee Marconi was already a feast
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house. Doing this shows that he was
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willing to put forth that effort.
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And let's hope somebody not going to say who realizes you
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have a 235 pounds Manchild when its third and two.
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You don't have to kill your quarterback.
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I digress. Josh fupa guys, food bill, we
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was already. Keyshawn artist looks massive.
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And last but not least walk on macksville pot.
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So how do you feel about those named LeBron?
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I feel pretty good, especially, you know, seeing less this and
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Brock in there. I feel really good about those
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guys. You know, you mention Keyshawn
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artist. He looks like I'm trying to
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think, I think of what a good crew dude is swole man.
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Looks like Lattimer from the program coming down and I mean
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Yell you like seeing a leader like Dax at the top of the top
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of that list just because you know that regardless of what you
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see on the field, his leadership and the intensity that he brings
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to practices and to workouts and things like that, you know, that
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that that other players are feeding off that.
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So it's good to see him kind of at the top of the Heap there.
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Exactly some other names. Like, you're glad to see on
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here. Obviously, we saw the big squat
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the other week for the big lift the other week.
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The wing Lofton up in there. Hendrix made it.
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Big Stone Gap. Made it Armani Chapman, really
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glad to see they're not sure he made it last year.
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Hopefully that shows he's got a little bigger on the outside,
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Amari far, no, good God Almighty, if he gains, just, you
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know, we talked last year He is 255, 260 with Peggy to Features
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put on 10 pounds, in the all that sky is the limit for that
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player. Sky is the absolute limit hand
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to God if he put on that weight. So he kept his twitch, there
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might be five left tackles in the country that can
27:52
legitimately block him one-on-one for an entire game
27:55
without giving up, by the end of the season, nobody wanted to see
27:58
him anyway, if he, if he takes another step that's going.
28:01
To be dangerous. It is definitely going to be
28:04
really, really dangerous, any other names on the list, Braun
28:08
that called you, none that you haven't mentioned already.
28:14
A lot of names which is a great thing to see.
28:17
All right? Brian so While we were sleeping
28:22
in a way. The college football's been
28:24
discussing revising, potential change.
28:28
Tell me about it. Curtis somewhere between 8 and
28:32
12 is what they're saying. They're sweet spots going to be
28:35
20, essentially solve the 12, Well, it's about 4 months ago in
28:43
times before that we were in serious discussions.
28:47
About having a episode about a playoff idea.
28:51
Brian had I'm basically talking about 12 teams, five, Converse
28:57
Champions. If a group of five can crack the
29:01
top 12 there in home games, first forged by home game for
29:06
the next four then home games again.
29:08
Then we started playoffs Brian, you might need to call somebody.
29:17
Damn, Alexa, you are listening and you it's hold the NCAA of
29:23
all. Freaking people call your lawyer
29:26
and Sue. Everybody, Sue, everybody who
29:31
everybody knew everybody. But legitimately it is the way
29:38
that it's going to go there saying 8 to 12.
29:42
I think they're going to skip 8. And I think they're going to
29:44
skip 84. The fact that you're going to
29:47
have to do multiple home games. I keep hearing people say, well,
29:50
you do, you do here, and then you do a bowl, and then you do
29:54
another bowl, and then you have a championship, nobody's going
29:56
to travel that much, essentially, 1 to 4 and 4 to 8
30:01
are all going to get home games. And then we're going to go to
30:05
the same format. We are right now in the it's
30:07
going to be beautiful because You know, this is my opinion and
30:14
it, whether it's right or wrong, there's my opinion, getting more
30:18
teams. Means, there's more likelihood
30:20
for chaos. Why?
30:23
Because any one given Saturday any team can beat another team?
30:30
An average team can beat an elite team with a perfect game
30:34
plan executed flawlessly and that really high team.
30:39
Having an off night. I go back, 2014 and a horseshoe.
30:44
We were an average team that year with the perfect game plan,
30:48
both sides of the ball, we'll put together against the
30:51
eventual national champions and when that happens, chaos is
30:55
going to ensue what also is going to happen.
30:58
I know I'm talking a lot, Brian on your idea, but I'm laughing.
31:04
I am going to love to see ready. Wounding number.
31:10
Eight. Four, five, six, seven, eight,
31:14
Florida, Gators, have to play the number 7. give me a team up,
31:20
north Michigan. They have to go to the Michigan,
31:27
to The Big House. On December 5th.
31:32
When it's negative Z, when it's -5 degrees, there's snow on the
31:37
ground. Mmm.
31:40
Please thank him have a better opportunity to win that game.
31:45
I went Michigan just because I was like, what's the team up?
31:48
North it actually has a potential chance of being there.
31:52
It sounds like that. Let's, let's go for it.
31:54
But also the whole thing about not having useful sites for
31:58
those first two weekends, great, because how many times do you
32:00
see a team in a hostile environment play?
32:02
Better versus a neutral site? Well, you're essentially getting
32:08
one extra high-profile game for all of those good team.
32:14
So you're at least going to get probably in the same ballpark in
32:19
attendance and and things like that, that you would get at your
32:23
rivalry game a long. When you add in the big-time
32:27
bump, in revenue, from the television stuff that's going to
32:31
come in, that's just it's hard to say no to It is, it's going
32:39
to happen. It's going to be brilliant to
32:41
see. I know they the one thing I saw
32:44
was they did a 2007 model and of course, they did a 2007 or not,
32:49
we were three, not two and it showed the breakdown and it's
32:54
like going here to go in here. But it's going to be so much.
32:58
The interest is going to keep going.
32:59
Some people sign to say, it's going to dilute the regular
33:02
season. No, it's not going to dilute the
33:05
regular season, because if you want to stop for teens, you're
33:09
probably in, but you go fuck around and lose your rivalry
33:14
game. You lost your home field
33:17
advantage. When you might have actually
33:19
lost the home field advantage, you might go from like 429 there
33:22
like you're in but your ass is on the road, not once, but
33:26
twice, Ice exactly, but love it. Now, we just get in the playoffs
33:33
like me and you kind of sit here and look back, go through all
33:36
the years as we've been a fans, like with with a 12 team format
33:39
good more. How many times will we have been
33:41
there? Yeah.
33:42
In the last 25 years. Like 15 probably I mean most to
33:47
it like 99 definitely 01. 97-95 04 05, 07 08, 10 and 11.
34:05
And it just gives you a chance and what it's going to do much
34:08
like March Madness. More fan bases.
34:11
Believe they can make it there. Yep.
34:14
The more you can give a fanbase belief that they can make the
34:17
playoffs. As you get into November people,
34:21
don't turn off the TV's. People don't not, everybody
34:24
makes money. Everybody makes money.
34:28
Everybody makes money. All right guys.
34:31
So what we're looking at this week, if you haven't already
34:33
checked it out with some clips off of hokey access on the ACC
34:38
Network aired. After the baseball game.
34:40
Last week actually are tonight at 9:00 and we pulled some clips
34:45
that we want to talk about things or seeing things.
34:48
We're hearing some funny things. Some things we want to get the
34:52
clap to some things. We want to be more critical of.
34:56
So I let's start the first couple Clips here, bro.
34:58
Ron. All right.
34:59
Here we go, buddy. That's a good look.
35:02
Hey, that's too good. Rest.
35:03
Thanks for leaving me hanging boss.
35:04
It's all good. I don't worry about it.
35:05
It's over now. Oh, got you.
35:07
I'm playing it. Wired letting you know?
35:09
Oh man. But I'm going around to various
35:11
players at each position group and ask them how their position
35:15
coach is servicing them. How's he doing for you?
35:17
To find out the stitches? Go smoothie got you right?
35:20
How's he doing for you good? Yeah.
35:24
He what you need as a Corners coach.
35:25
Yeah, good. Good.
35:28
During strong. Not a snitch.
35:31
Each favorite coach on the staff.
35:36
I got it. Don't say me.
35:37
That was a mic position. Coach.
35:40
Yeah, getting you right. Again, you what you need, as a
35:42
wideout pops off the field. Yeah, I have.
35:48
Matt cardle has been for you, man.
35:49
How's it going? How's he doing?
35:51
All right, real good. Slow down like that and coach
35:58
little bit for you. Right.
35:59
How about you think he'd be a coach one day?
36:02
Good jealous from me. Not a snitch.
36:11
That's some good stuff right there.
36:14
It when we talk about J Hamm, you know, the big thing that we
36:17
always talk about J Hamm. Is that he brings The it Factor
36:24
as a coach? Yes, he does.
36:26
I don't know. A better way to describe it than
36:28
that. It Factor.
36:30
He is see it back. There is no other way to say
36:33
Brian. It's it.
36:36
He just like his him interacting with players with coaches with
36:41
media, it looks effortless. I know it's not.
36:44
I know that whether it's, you know, his experience or whatever
36:51
it is that it's a lot of work to get to that point but it just,
36:55
it looks so effortless. He just seems like a good
37:00
culture Fit For What Virginia Tech likes to do but also as
37:04
good of a brand ambassador. Faster, as you could find as a
37:08
coach. Absolutely.
37:10
You talking about brand ambassador, but I want that guy
37:13
in front of the mic every single time.
37:16
There's anything to deal with o.p.p., obviously we talked
37:19
about earlier, the restrictions lifting, I am hoping that
37:23
Richmond who Club has a hook and Club dinner in July.
37:26
And I'm hoping he's a speaker. Because me and you will throw
37:29
some money down and we will go to that in a heartbeat to hear
37:32
that man talk. But it's also it's his
37:35
personality that I think. It's also a guy, you can also,
37:39
you know, see we play multiple positions, he has to learn how
37:43
to talk the more people in different ways and then he went
37:48
to the NFL and you talked about like training his, it VMI He
37:56
wasn't at a big school. This is who he is.
37:59
This is one of those things you get lucky, and obviously,
38:03
talking with the players asking, what they need, are they giving
38:06
you what you need? Talking about the coaches, just
38:08
getting a feel for everybody. I'm sure there were
38:11
conversations in there that they probably edited out where I'm
38:14
talking. I'm just not, I'm just not right
38:16
right now coach. And I wish they would have
38:19
showed one of those in the conversation.
38:21
He had. I know I'm part of one.
38:25
And I think it was Dorian strong.
38:27
It was, he talked about. If you can remember how to do
38:30
all your daps that you can't remember your covers.
38:32
There is a problem. Like yea, he did that just
38:37
before he asked him about about. Smitty, is basically saying to
38:45
me, it's nice. As smooth as saying, make sure,
38:49
you know what to focus on. Yeah.
38:52
Work comes first, get the other stuff in there too, but the work
38:55
comes, you know, got a got to keep the focus where it needs to
38:57
be. Yeah.
38:58
Now the next clip you're going to put is this is a difference
39:02
of that was the fun, joking. Being easy.
39:06
I'm a, this clip speaks for itself and not brown.
39:08
When it comes back, I want you to go right into what he's
39:11
talking about there as a guy who played.
39:13
All right, here we go, buddy. Things that are swirling around
39:17
in your mind are happening. Here's what you need to know the
39:21
same way you feel right now is the same way.
39:24
That every young safety has felt.
39:27
You gotta understand that you got to Divine Diablo, you look
39:32
at him and it's like whenever we don't ever miss anything right,
39:35
Devon Diablo felt the same way, you felt.
39:38
There's no way around it. You work through it and what you
39:41
trying to get to is how you watch the game, the press
39:45
fast-forward. The film.
39:47
Just like, what am I looking at? All.
39:49
Keep your rap, but your goal is to work, until it looks like now
39:53
you press slow motion. You see what I'm saying?
39:56
When you get it to where it looks like slow motion now,
39:59
you're balling. Yeah, I mean that is just you
40:06
know, we talk about it all the time with the the interaction as
40:09
with the players, but I think the way he communicates he's not
40:16
a, he doesn't strike me as that hard-ass coach but he's also not
40:20
rah-rah, he's kind of somewhere in the almost like that Mentor
40:25
type type of leadership role. And I think that speaks to a lot
40:31
of these players because he's talking to I'm at their level
40:33
and he's not just talking about You know how to get better but
40:38
he's also talking about, hey, it's okay to feel this way.
40:42
Everybody's been there, but you got to push forward to get to
40:46
the next step because if you stay where you're at, you're not
40:50
going to go any further. yeah, I like the way you put it with
40:54
mental, he's the mentor that will He partially your boss and
40:59
he will bust your balls, whether you're slacking not studying
41:03
correctly, but he's also trying to communicate with you.
41:07
In ways you can get better and as he was talking to him
41:11
especially about the fast forward in the slow mode, I
41:15
think people can visualize that and you Bud Foster talked about
41:20
it for years. When this doesn't think in this,
41:24
just does the work the feet. Do the work.
41:27
It's Was like, slow motion because the brain is not
41:29
thinking the brain is just reacting, and again, he is that
41:34
middle. He's got a little hardness, he's
41:37
got a little rah-rah. He's got a little, jokester and
41:40
him. I also think there's times where
41:42
he probably lazy Lauda and because I'm sure there are
41:46
people out there slacking and not taking advantage of their
41:50
opportunities, will he can sit there and say, I was here, I did
41:54
good, they move me. I was here, I did good and they
41:57
move. Me over here and I still did
41:58
good. There's no excuse work and how
42:04
the next clip. Braun.
42:06
I swear to God about almost peed my pants when I, when I wouldn't
42:09
this clip happen this is just hilarious.
42:12
Yes. Are we rolling our entire
42:15
relationship before? We were married was built off of
42:18
restaurants and movies. That's all we did.
42:20
Our first date, he took me to Ruth's Chris Steakhouse.
42:23
The joke was on her because we started dating.
42:27
I was like, still trying to get back in.
42:28
The NFL had a little Bit of Pocket Change left over.
42:32
She thinks she's like falling for a guy that's going to get
42:36
back in the NFL, as it turned out.
42:38
I took a job for about six bucks, an hour as a strength
42:41
coach she truth. I want the world to know, or the
42:45
Hokey world and no on our honeymoon, she checked my bank
42:48
account and started crying. That's a true story.
42:54
Justin. Well, that is true.
42:56
It is true. I probably should have cried to.
42:58
I was naive I love the last line.
43:05
I probably should have cried to. I was not Eve to Ruth's Chris
43:11
because he was bald and probably had either a roommate or
43:18
somebody who's blind rent. Yeah.
43:20
And once you got past the room, babe is and it was all on you he
43:27
got real real quick. Exactly.
43:30
That does this, that it's hilarious.
43:32
And it's also hilarious that a lot of us.
43:35
This is one of those relatable moments to anybody probably
43:41
anything about their ages when they were dating because he's
43:43
probably a mid 20s when they were dating because he was in
43:46
League about three years. Who doesn't when they're
43:52
initially. First dating tried to go to the
43:55
nicest restaurant potentially available Charlie's.
43:58
Yep. Charlie's, you know, and the
44:03
whole bank account thing. You know, you can tell J Hamm
44:08
wasn't given anything. He tried to make the NFL, his
44:13
knee messed up. He didn't make it God for the
44:16
six-dollar six dollars, an hour job to stay in football.
44:22
And we're talking probably what 10, 12 years later.
44:26
Hands. I read, right?
44:28
Yep. I was probably 2007 2008.
44:33
You know, he flipped that in 12 years to almost half a million
44:39
dollar salary that's That's impressive, that's an impressive
44:43
rise. That's an impressive path to get
44:47
there, especially because probably two-thirds of that, he
44:51
was making probably what we make, or maybe maybe just under
44:56
or just over depending on what where the landing slot was.
45:00
Wow. So yeah, that's a big climb in
45:05
up in a pretty short period of time, so he knows how to grind
45:09
and I think he can impart that on the players.
45:13
You know, we always talked about with J, Hamm last year, when
45:16
there were some struggles, especially in the first part of
45:18
the season on defense, you know, a lot of this, it's covid
45:25
related. I know everyone's dealing with
45:28
it, but not everyone was installing a new defense with a
45:31
new defensive coordinator. So there's some differences
45:34
there, but everything else that J Hamm brings to the table.
45:39
I mean, that's just Can't just bottle that in or buy that off
45:45
the street. I mean, there's a lot of
45:48
intangible things that Justin Hamilton brings to Virginia Tech
45:53
that you just can't find anywhere and it's not just the
45:55
fact that he played here. Yep.
45:58
It's very true. And, but having him play, Hey,
46:01
you know, he loves this place and, you know, he will sell this
46:04
place as hard as he can or some Schmo off the street, who's here
46:08
for half million dollar. Pay check, and that's one thing
46:11
you got. love about him next clip here, go ahead roller Braun
46:16
and then we'll chat about it because this is this is some
46:18
deeper stuff as well, there we go, but Obviously not traveling
46:27
to see your wife and kids the recruiting peace with covid is
46:31
good but also like I have that and I mean to have a kid be able
46:35
to stop by and look at 30 minutes 45 minutes.
46:41
Sometimes it goes long, I try to keep it where it's within a 30
46:45
to 45-minute window because after that your yeah, you better
46:50
give them social media break or something.
46:53
Because it's hard to keep the attention plus.
46:54
I don't want to do information overload.
46:56
He's I mean he's The Godfather to me.
47:00
I remember being on the offensive side of the ball and
47:04
back in the old team room, we had the divider like the
47:07
elementary school divider. You could hear everything in the
47:11
unit meetings that was going on. We were in our unit meetings and
47:13
I was trying to pay attention in ours, I'm listening to him the
47:16
way he was juicing the team up and building their confidence
47:20
and the standard and the demand. And it was like man this guy
47:24
must be awesome to play for and then when I got a chance to do
47:28
it I realized that he's awesome to play for.
47:31
If you know what you're doing and if you don't, then he's
47:34
going to bring you to speed. Um clearly shows you the
47:40
affection he has for budman, and the affection that probably was
47:45
drifted across those walls for the de for the offensive side.
47:51
When Bud was at his Peak. You know that Justin talking
47:54
about early 2000 when the defense was essentially the one
47:58
of the best in the nation for something years running.
48:04
And again, we talked about it a few minutes ago.
48:08
A guy that went from one side of the ball to the other play for
48:11
that guy. You don't think he takes some of
48:13
his qualities away. Oh, absolutely, dude.
48:18
Surely after that clip, you talked about the, you know, the
48:22
picture of them that's been circulating a lot and talked
48:26
about, you know, how do you know when to make the right call and
48:32
he's like, you know, a lot of it, a lot of its gut, but he
48:34
said, a lot of it was late nights on Wednesday watching
48:37
tape. After all the other coaches at
48:39
left and what. So I think I think that's the
48:42
big thing that jam takes from it is that it's part, trusting your
48:46
instincts and part put in the work, but in the work that piece
48:50
you maybe talk about that Wednesday night.
48:52
He said he liked doing the full team from the full thing.
48:55
But on Wednesdays was like, is night.
48:58
He said, in the film by himself, And again, that's something
49:03
wonder if he brings in where it's like wasting my time going
49:05
to be here till 3:00 in the morning and I am going to try to
49:09
look at every little tendency to this team has and when they tip
49:13
it I'll run a banger that was one of my favorite lines you cut
49:17
it out thank you baby. And how many times in our
49:22
lifetime with bud He called the perfect call against whatever
49:28
they are running and it would massive loss.
49:31
Huge sack pick almost every third down against Ohio State.
49:36
The, I've heard that yes, be seemingly had every single one
49:42
of our buyers Tendencies figured out that night and he
49:45
capitalized on all of them. Going back to the first part
49:49
though. A, he mentions obviously covid
49:51
being with his family. For those listening on the
49:54
podcast, you can see the literally jehan's whole family
49:58
is in there. Looks like they're having a
49:59
pizza lunch, you know? See the whole episode, he's
50:03
running around the kids come in. They talk about going a Shabbos
50:06
office, getting candy playing, the weight room, really
50:10
family-oriented guy, man, but he also mentioned about a big side
50:15
was having guys coming to the office 20-30 minutes.
50:18
And just look at tape, and again, it shows you that
50:21
connection. But again also showed you
50:24
generational to that Once it hits 30, I we got cut off
50:28
because someone's going to take a little break, will take other
50:31
great walk around gonna get a sip check your check your
50:34
profiles and we'll be back at it in 10.
50:38
Exactly. But you know, the one thing and
50:44
I'm going to be, I'm going to go on a little down or note here.
50:47
The one thing that next year scares me about and it's not
50:53
about so much if we have a bad season, Justin Hamilton probably
51:01
not coming back. There's some people on the staff
51:04
that probably will be Justin proper warm and that breaks my
51:07
heart because a, it's a guy we watched.
51:11
It's a guy, we watched, you know, your first game was 02.
51:14
My first game was up, the key was only feel for those plays.
51:18
He was almost filled enough format team and, you know, and
51:23
if we look at our fan Hood 95, we were kids, we were right at
51:29
and we're going to go into Middle School, right in Middle
51:31
School, 99 were in high. A school 04 is our team.
51:37
I think go for Zak team. Yeah, we were both.
51:40
You were Sydney. I was in long.
51:42
Would we watch games together when we could?
51:47
You know, we talked about it. I know we I want up the games
51:50
that year. I feel like you went to one game
51:52
at you, like getting your off week.
51:54
I only have one game. I was another word, many years,
51:58
but he was part of that special team.
52:01
Yeah. What hurts me is I look for in
52:04
the way I'm feeling towards next season, is when we might lose
52:08
this guy. So it's one of those things
52:11
where I hope we knock it out of the ballpark.
52:14
I hope I'm stoked freaking wrong next.
52:17
What I'm seeing from this team because I want that guy in
52:20
Blacksburg. I want that guy on campus.
52:22
I want that guy to be a defensive coordinator.
52:24
Yeah. I mean just everything you
52:27
watch. I mean he's very likeable and I
52:31
think as long as we can get some of the results, hopefully we can
52:35
do enough to keep him around. And I don't know what else to
52:44
say, man. I mean, we like jam on this
52:46
program, guys. We do that's just the long and
52:49
short of it. Yes, I'd like to see, like I
52:52
said, I like to see a little bit better results in that money, 21
52:58
on that side of the ball but there was a lot of reasons why
53:02
you didn't see him early last year.
53:04
So on that side of the ball, I'm willing to give a little bit of
53:07
a pass until 2021, and we'll see what happens.
53:11
But in terms of just personality in a guy, you like to have as
53:14
your head your your defensive coordinator doesn't get any
53:18
better. Absolutely right.
53:21
Let's roll on less precooked. We talk about Spring ball.
53:27
Oh, and general. And we have had a huge of sis.
53:32
Pulling the football, you know, taking care of the ball, taking
53:36
away football, with some more conscientious effort on the ball
53:42
on both sides of the ball, we made a huge point of emphasis,
53:48
on third down, or very good on either side of the ball on third
53:53
down last year. Starting five back on 35k him
53:57
35. And then like we really got to
54:03
get back to the way. We practice used to be kind of
54:06
our signature and we drifted away from that partially last
54:12
year because we didn't practice and when we did it was just
54:17
trying to make sure we had enough people there to get
54:19
through it. But and the guys have done a
54:22
really good job of that today will be third down in phasis and
54:29
some Red Zone stuff. Spring ball, emphasis.
54:36
Keep control of the football, get better on third down on both
54:40
sides of the ball and practice like you damn.
54:44
Well mean it. But you got cured.
54:48
I'm just glad you admitted it. We work and we were terrible
54:52
last year, on third down both sides of the ball.
54:55
We were. I'm glad he said it out loud.
54:58
I'm glad he set it where the entire fans could hear him say
55:04
it, because it was that there were games last year, and I go
55:10
back to the North Carolina game, but that, third down play that
55:14
third down play, is another play called in sick.
55:16
Converted. I think that game changes.
55:19
I think we win that game because I think we took their first
55:22
three on punches hard. We got up and beat the shit out
55:25
of them for the next two rounds for the next six rounds.
55:28
I think we win that game, but we screwed up Wake Forest.
55:31
Jesus freaking Christ. Don't make me go again.
55:36
But at least, we have him admitted it on tape.
55:39
Now, the other part is to take away thing and that's a big
55:42
thing. Because there were games last
55:44
year when we were protecting the ball.
55:46
Well, we Did good and there were games like BC when we stole the
55:50
ball from them numerous times that essentially it prevented
55:55
their momentum every time from going somewhere.
55:58
Yeah so I'm glad to hear that now that I've wished would have
56:04
been a little more detailed. Well okay what are you going to
56:07
do to fix it? Because here's some things that
56:10
we can say. They him hadn't had a chance to
56:14
install his offense or his defense, excuse me.
56:18
We can write that up and say that's probably why.
56:20
Third down wasn't very not enough execution.
56:23
Run the plays you want. There were times where you saw
56:26
mr. Solomon is like and Brian.
56:28
I'm sure you went over there. Numerous times.
56:30
You probably just killed your head at your house and just
56:33
said, fuck was the guy who was supposed to be there?
56:39
It's the again it's the other side that worries me.
56:42
Yep it's year. Five.
56:44
Who was year five in a lot of the same shit we saw for the
56:49
first four years showed up in the fifth year, are you going to
56:52
do anything in the six-year to change it?
56:54
Justin Yeah. I mean it would have it would be
56:57
nice to I mean, I know he's not very big on giving the
57:01
opponent's anything, but I think it would be nice to see some
57:05
sort of plan as far as how they're going to achieve that.
57:09
What we've got the, the the areas of emphasis.
57:12
All right. So now that we've got the
57:13
area's, how are you emphasizing that, is this more are there
57:20
more drills and emphasize that we, at least got to see some,
57:23
some drills there with ball /. Action and things like that.
57:27
So that was good to see. But you know, what else?
57:30
What else are they doing to protect the ball?
57:33
What else are they doing? To keep the ball out of the
57:36
other teams hands and what else are they trying to do on defense
57:39
to, you know, Force those turnovers which is Less infus
57:43
Direct category, but still under his purview as head coach there.
57:47
So it'll be interesting to see if that comes to fruition.
57:50
I mean ball. Security has always been a big
57:53
big point of emphasis for Foo. It's that Every Spring practice,
57:57
every fall Camp. That's been like, the nature of
58:01
every quarterback battle that we've had first season without a
58:05
quarterback battle though. But for every emphasis emphasis
58:09
of every, every quarterback battle was making sure that they
58:12
protected the football how to run with this one start and GAP.
58:16
Then, excellent question. I would like to get into some
58:21
guys who are in that in those practices we like how how All
58:26
right. Brian next segment here, and I'm
58:30
going to do a little intro to this one.
58:49
So go bronze eagle has labeled this, The Good, the Bad, and the
58:53
Ugly of Coach Fuente, have a listen, and you'll probably
58:57
agree. They stripped out all 15
59:00
practices this year. I scripted 1 through 12 and let
59:07
13 of 14 and 15 open its those what we actually need.
59:13
But I like that part of it because I take 1 3, 1 4, 5, or 1
59:17
through 6 and say this is what we're going to work on.
59:20
These are points of emphasis and then the next second, you know,
59:24
whatever it is 69 or 79. However, it all falls week by
59:29
week ending on a Saturday scrimmage.
59:58
Leadership to not accept anything other than the same
1:00:02
type of enthusiasm and passion for today, today's the day,
1:00:07
okay? Saturday, we're going to
1:00:08
scrimmage and you guys are going to be fired up and ready to go.
1:00:11
Today is the day that we have to separate ourselves from
1:00:15
everybody else. Family on three one, two, three.
1:00:18
Well, do you stick with this? It's going to all work out.
1:00:21
I may not work out tomorrow, you know.
1:00:22
I don't know when it's going to be.
1:00:24
I'm just gonna tell you, like, if you have Grid or toughness
1:00:29
and stick-to-itiveness, and we'll bust your eyes and
1:00:31
continue to develop and work out.
1:00:36
Okay, let's start with the last one.
1:00:37
Let's start with the last one. Let's start with the ugly.
1:00:41
The grit. In Tallis and
1:00:44
stick-to-itiveness, that's where this is my theory on that.
1:00:49
I think the Saturday before they take this because obviously this
1:00:53
would have been. It would have been Monday or
1:00:56
Tuesday of the week. They take, this is what I think
1:00:59
happened. I think coach went ahead all the
1:01:01
coaches over for a little barbecue, right?
1:01:03
Yep, barbecued. Let's have some beers.
1:01:06
We probably just had some producing stuff that day.
1:01:08
Going through, what's going to happen next week with the show
1:01:11
and they're sitting around their hand be And somebody says go
1:01:16
through probably then place. I put Vice on this more than
1:01:20
anybody. I don't know why I just I think
1:01:22
Watson what's the offensive line and I think you do this or shit
1:01:26
I think Boo, I bet you can't get these three things into that
1:01:32
episode and some way 1:30 and first, and everything on the
1:01:37
other side of the fire pit and all the coaches looking Vice and
1:01:40
then they all look at him bullshit, put 10 cats, this is
1:01:46
beer brands up shakes each other's hands and then he snuck
1:01:50
it in there with a walk-on from stewartson giraffe.
1:01:54
Probably the only time that guy will ever see any television
1:01:58
time. Time.
1:02:00
Here is hokey Chris. And no knock to it.
1:02:02
No, not to me but he's a walk-on offensive lineman.
1:02:05
Yep. No stories are few and far
1:02:07
between. Yeah, I mean, when you look at
1:02:10
it like that, it's Again we talk about it all the time with the
1:02:16
buzzwords and again that's fine for like you know you get you
1:02:24
know you get the we used to get like the binders with are like
1:02:28
summer workouts or you know you get your playbook.
1:02:32
You however it's delivered to you.
1:02:34
I tablet iPhone. Whatever that's fine for like
1:02:37
stuff like that. That's fine for, you know,
1:02:41
meetings where you're talking to a large group of people.
1:02:43
Oil, that's not the type of individual interaction that
1:02:47
feels organic and real to me and I feel like there's other.
1:02:53
There's other interactions that were significantly better for
1:02:57
that for food but that felt at felt forced and trait and out of
1:03:04
that it has to be that he has to be trolling.
1:03:08
There's no way that's not a troll.
1:03:10
This is Oh man. But let's go back to practice 11
1:03:17
though because I feel like that is the good in that
1:03:21
three-section clip. There is that I feel like that
1:03:25
that was some, that was some good motivational talk but it
1:03:29
also personalized it. Yes, he did.
1:03:31
It put things in perspective, for the players heading into,
1:03:35
not just practice 11, but knowing that.
1:03:38
All right, guys, fucking scrimmage is coming up.
1:03:40
We got to get right? So we can get the most out of
1:03:42
that scrimmage. Each and I think that that was a
1:03:45
good, a good way of bringing those ideas to the table and
1:03:49
getting the players ready for that.
1:03:51
That practice 11. Oh yeah, Hunter isn't that
1:03:54
seemed very genuine also the way he talked to the leaders because
1:03:59
he liked me single them's out and I'm sure they're the team
1:04:02
captains and the unit Captain's know who they are and it's
1:04:05
almost like everybody's happy practice one everybody.
1:04:09
This practice 11 we've hit each other.
1:04:12
We we've been grinding. We've been lifting, we're
1:04:14
probably not feeling the best bringing that enthusiasm because
1:04:18
what happens is you're going to get in November and regardless
1:04:22
of your record, the enthusiasm that you had the first few weeks
1:04:26
or the enthusiasm for a big night game or something. 12:00
1:04:31
in pit is not going to be the same thing, so it's almost like
1:04:36
getting them mentally train. There's any situations, you've
1:04:38
got to be able to bring that energy and obviously, there are
1:04:41
some times last year primarily that Liberty game when the team
1:04:46
did not bring the energy. No, I said with the, we have
1:04:49
this year as Leaders go, I don't think that's going to be
1:04:52
missing. Now, let's go to the bad.
1:05:00
We talked about this earlier anytime I hear and I don't care.
1:05:05
If this is a head coach, a corporate trainer teacher
1:05:12
Professor, whatever line of business you're in I have these
1:05:16
15 scheduled just like this because it's the way I want it.
1:05:20
I immediately say did you fucking up already?
1:05:24
If you're planning that far then you're already setting.
1:05:28
Elf up to fail, to get, even with with the modification.
1:05:32
I mean, three practices isn't enough, in my opinion to Circle
1:05:36
back on on the need areas. I felt like you go like 10 and 5
1:05:42
or something like that where and even maybe take a building block
1:05:46
approach to it, where you're kind of installing and or
1:05:50
emphasizing different things at different weeks and then use
1:05:55
kind of the end to Circle back either bring It full circle or a
1:05:58
circle. Check on those areas that you
1:05:59
saw that were concerning on. Yeah, I think I will give him
1:06:04
credit essentially. Leaving the last three open.
1:06:08
Does give the opportunity though to.
1:06:11
Let's look at what we did. The first 11 practices.
1:06:14
Is there anything specifically, we need to work on really
1:06:16
hardcore the days. So it's okay.
1:06:18
But I'm with you. You don't put it in practice,
1:06:21
12, 13 and 14. You put it in practice 5, but it
1:06:25
practice 10, you sort of you You spread them out.
1:06:29
So, after that first week of practice, you know what?
1:06:33
If you know the Zone drills that were running by the offensive
1:06:37
baby killing it, and they've been getting up, they be getting
1:06:40
the second level they've been handing off, great, do you need
1:06:43
to work on that note? But let's say pass Pro handoff
1:06:47
have been shitty shitty. That's what you're working on
1:06:51
today or lying or brown. Your favorite safeties.
1:06:56
You guys have for sending your zones and government of outfit.
1:06:59
Awesome. But Brian went to safety
1:07:02
sometimes screw up. Run Phillips.
1:07:07
Screw that up. Let's pray.
1:07:10
So it's bad because it seems like he was very set in at 15.
1:07:14
Now he has come off of it a little bit but again the way
1:07:17
we're singing it is maybe even need to adjust it a little bit
1:07:21
more. That's just us.
1:07:26
Yeah. I mean I have nothing
1:07:28
necessarily blatantly wrong to say that that's the wrong
1:07:32
approach but I just feel like the full scripting was
1:07:36
definitely a problem. So whatever he was doing before,
1:07:40
maybe this is him evaluating and saying hey we need to have
1:07:44
something at the end here where we're like I said either
1:07:47
circling back to what didn't work or kind of looping
1:07:52
everything into Are these three practices are going to be, you
1:07:57
know, heavy emphasis on, you know, whether it's like half
1:08:01
line or, you know, scrimmage sections, whatever it may be,
1:08:07
there's going to be some sort of emphasis to either bring it all
1:08:09
together or Circle back on the things that we saw in those
1:08:13
previous 10 or 12 that didn't work the way we wanted to.
1:08:18
Absolutely, I boats. Last clip we look at tonight.
1:08:24
Through this brings out a little more human side, if it weren't
1:08:27
a. And I think, me and Brian are
1:08:29
couple pieces of here. We definitely can relate with If
1:08:34
standard all, I can get in in the morning, first of all, cause
1:08:37
nobody else in usually get some things done, is kind of like my
1:08:41
time. Plus. you know, like, my kids
1:08:47
are involved in sports and during the Spring Time,
1:08:52
particularly She's easier for me too.
1:08:57
To get in early and then get out so I can go see him play, you
1:09:02
know, so that's the number one goal is, don't hit a deer on the
1:09:07
way to work because they outnumber the cars about 10 to
1:09:10
15 hit a few in the evening time.
1:09:13
I came back side, blasted by a couple of them.
1:09:20
It's always the second deer that you're not the first one.
1:09:25
I always traveling to his. I didn't know that.
1:09:27
So here, like I don't have like a one go to like I do I am a
1:09:33
music guy so I do listen to music.
1:09:36
I have I have started got getting into the pot podcast
1:09:40
game, you know who Neil deGrasse Tyson is, yeah, it's pretty cool
1:09:48
strike. Blows your mind on the way to
1:09:51
wait a way to work. The laughs the like throat
1:09:58
clearing laugh, every time gets me, the lab is.
1:10:03
It's so genuine though that that laugh is you know, he's being
1:10:07
very genuine about things with me laughs like that if it's some
1:10:12
of the sea and he even turned around and looked I'm guessing
1:10:14
at the camera guy in the back like he's like he's are the
1:10:19
producer that set up the cameras in the vehicle or he was, I
1:10:22
don't know if he's filming shots back there but he was He was
1:10:25
definitely part of the production, no doubt.
1:10:26
And he's like, yeah, let's Neil deGrasse Tyson.
1:10:30
Huh? Obviously big crew said he'd
1:10:34
listen to like, two of those three Rogan EPs and I think they
1:10:37
were like three and a half hours each.
1:10:39
So it is a you do the de cross. Use a deGrasse Tyson, with Joe
1:10:43
Rogan. It's like you were in for, like
1:10:45
a half a day. I'll say this at the beginning,
1:10:50
he told himself as an introvert. I like to get in the office when
1:10:53
there's no bleeping body. Hey, I can get more work done,
1:10:56
nobody bothers me. Jesus Christ, how can you be an
1:11:04
introvert? But, you know, at least again,
1:11:08
seeing sides of his personality. Now, some of the me and Brian
1:11:12
will absolutely confirm. And obviously Blacksburg about
1:11:17
two and a half hours where we grew up, but we can confirm
1:11:20
Salman part of Virginia are is a shit ton of deer.
1:11:24
Yeah, I caught one on the way to him and Sydney one time and it's
1:11:28
shit all over my car, never caught any can close a few times
1:11:34
in the truck back in the day. But he is right.
1:11:37
Usually they do travel in packs, I'll also say watching, go
1:11:41
watching, watch that video again, his head movement it's
1:11:44
that is how you drive. I've only Backcountry Road at
1:11:47
4:00 in the morning, going to work.
1:11:49
Like hell are you assholes at? You're going to jump out here
1:11:52
and it's great to know that he's been sideswiped a couple times
1:11:55
which sideswipes. Okay, they can pop it out of the
1:11:57
door. Real, real freaking easy and but
1:12:02
it's funny, he's had those incidents and obviously I'm
1:12:04
guessing in Oklahoma, obviously wide open terrain, not much
1:12:08
Forest, not a lot of deer hunting and if there is you can
1:12:12
see them from miles away. Now, the one last piece I want
1:12:17
to hit and and I'm going to, I think we relate to this hard
1:12:20
problem. We both have kids are kids in
1:12:23
sports. And he's talking about his girls
1:12:27
being really involved in sports and Springtime, and his goal is
1:12:30
to get in as early as possible get his work done.
1:12:33
So, in the evenings, he can go see and whether you like this
1:12:38
coach. Whether you're indifferent to
1:12:41
this coach or you hate this coach, you must respect that
1:12:45
because there are a lot of coaches out there that
1:12:46
legitimately disregard their families for this business.
1:12:52
And if you have, you know, you have kids that essentially they
1:12:57
aren't right as adults because Dad was in the office 18 hours a
1:13:01
week. And obviously, he values that
1:13:04
you saw with Jay hand, to they value that.
1:13:07
And it was said, numerous times During this show Family.
1:13:14
And I think that's the big takeaway from this whole thing
1:13:16
is that it's obvious that both of the coaches that were the
1:13:21
primary focus of the All Access. They care about the players,
1:13:27
they care about what they're doing, you might disagree with
1:13:30
how they're doing it. You might think they're not a
1:13:32
good fit for the for the role, but they care and they generally
1:13:38
care about the players. They generally care about the
1:13:41
school and they generally care about the fans.
1:13:44
Now you might think that how they go about showing that isn't
1:13:49
what you expect or what you want from an access standpoint from a
1:13:54
fan interaction standpoint. I agree with you, yeah, but I
1:14:00
think sometimes we get to a point where we cross over
1:14:05
between tree of these guys like an employee that we don't think
1:14:09
is up to Snuff and Someone that we genuinely dislike or hate.
1:14:15
And I think there's a difference between those two and I think
1:14:18
sometimes, you know, we can cross the line on that.
1:14:20
It gives easy. We're fans were passionate when
1:14:23
you get passionate about something you know, you say and
1:14:27
do things that may not always aligned with what you would do
1:14:31
in a normal situation. But like I said at the end of
1:14:34
the day, I think both of these guys are really good for the
1:14:39
school in terms of how they interact with.
1:14:42
With with, with the players and the in the fans, I just think we
1:14:46
need, we need more from them on that front, in terms of the
1:14:53
reciprocation. Because I feel like we're
1:14:56
getting a lot of that one way stream that we've been talking
1:14:59
about. And, and this is another example
1:15:01
of that. And I feel like this this gave
1:15:03
us probably as much or more than we've gotten from any other
1:15:08
production so far. But Like I said, I think the
1:15:13
thing that still lacking is that that reciprocation where, you
1:15:17
know, they're giving us something and we're giving them
1:15:19
something back or we're showing them something or they're
1:15:21
showing us something more of those site.
1:15:25
Things would be great. And if this was, you know, if we
1:15:31
had those things, this this would be probably considered one
1:15:35
of the best access pieces that we've gotten but without those
1:15:41
other interactions. It's kind of, this is great,
1:15:43
but, you know, but it's the, but it's the, but it's there on the
1:15:48
precipice of doing every doing this stuff right there on the
1:15:52
precipice. And this season.
1:15:57
The women lost totals is what will matter because if it is I
1:16:03
get to see. I've said it before the season
1:16:05
we're feeling is going to happen which is going to be good again.
1:16:08
We hope were wrong but it is that really good to eat.
1:16:12
And you know this staff is retained Someone in the athletic
1:16:18
department has to just step in and say, these are things that
1:16:21
are going to happen and if you don't like it, then you may
1:16:25
leave because you're not going to leave obviously.
1:16:29
And then, I think what we see with, obviously we can you hands
1:16:33
personality, but you start seeing one more fluencies
1:16:35
personality. It's there.
1:16:37
You've heard of behind the scene stories.
1:16:39
There has to be someone that said, make that be you out there
1:16:42
every time and people will love you if you're winning games and
1:16:45
this is who you are. You have the potential but a
1:16:48
common second God. Excuse me, a third.
1:16:51
God down here. But if you don't feel and who
1:16:55
you are, they question. So, yeah.
1:17:00
Anything else you want to add? Or maybe breaking as we wrap up
1:17:04
tonight? Run, I haven't seen anything
1:17:06
come across my board so I think we're good to wrap up buddy.
1:17:09
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