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I REFUSED to share $14K of my mother's will to my sister... because she owes me $232K. | Reddit Stories | EP2980 · ok storytime

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Carly. And this is Angie, your favorite
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  Speaker 1: OK Storytime hosts. And we've got some great stories coming up.
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  Speaker 1: But before that, we have a quick two minute break
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  Speaker 1: from the sponsors that keep the show running. I refuse
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  Speaker 1: to share $ 14, 000 of my mother's will with my sister
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  Speaker 1: because she owes me $ 232, 000. That is a big difference. I,
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  Speaker 1: 29 female. And my sister Rachel, 34, female, were both
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  Speaker 1: listed on our mom's savings account years ago for emergency access.
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  Speaker 1: Our mom passed away eight months ago. I was the
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  Speaker 1: one who moved back home three years ago and quit
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  Speaker 1: my part-time job and managed every doctor's appointment and gave
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  Speaker 1: her medication every night and was with her when she passed. Dang. Rachel?
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  Speaker 1: lives four hours away, and maybe visited six times in
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  Speaker 1: three years. Oh! She has a good job and a
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  Speaker 1: comfortable life, and she always said she couldn't leave work
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  Speaker 1: whenever I asked for even a weekend of help. I
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  Speaker 1: never blamed her out loud because I knew she had
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  Speaker 1: her reasons. When we started handling the estate, our mom
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  Speaker 1: had left a note, not a legal will, just a
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  Speaker 1: handwritten letter, saying she wanted the savings split equally between us.
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  Speaker 1: The account... and around $ 14, 000 in it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I went to the bank to ask a few questions,
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  Speaker 1: and the banker mentioned I was the sole remaining authorized
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  Speaker 1: user because Rachel had never updated her ID, and her
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  Speaker 1: name had lapsed off the account, technically, due to an
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  Speaker 1: old bank policy.
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  Speaker 2: Uh-oh, looks like a note got lost in the trash.
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  Speaker 1: Uh-oh, looks like nobody knows about this money anymore but me.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from Isla Glowy. If you
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  Speaker 1: slash ok story time subreddit. I'm Dakota. I'm Riley. We're
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  Speaker 1: going to read this story. We're going to have our thoughts.
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  Speaker 1: You get to have yours too. And you put them
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  Speaker 1: in the comments and maybe they'll be in a future video.
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  Speaker 1: OP says, Legally, the money is mine to do with
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  Speaker 1: as I want. I decided not to tell Rachel about
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  Speaker 1: this detail. And just transferred the full amount into an
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  Speaker 1: account in my name only. My reasoning was that I
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  Speaker 1: had sacrificed three years of my life and my career
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  Speaker 1: and my social life to care for our mom while
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  Speaker 1: Rachel showed up for the good moments and disappeared for
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  Speaker 1: the hard ones. I did not spend the money. It's
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  Speaker 1: sitting there right now. Accruing interest.
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  Speaker 2: There we go.
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  Speaker 1: Why don't you throw it in a hot commodity like gold?
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  Speaker 2: Hey, why don't you throw it into some crypto, baby?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll put it into some fart coin. Yeah. No.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone knows it only goes up. Last week, Rachel called
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  Speaker 1: to ask when we were splitting the account.
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  Speaker 2: The audacity.
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  Speaker 1: You go, what account? Just complete. What are you talking about?
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  Speaker 1: I told her what I found out at the bank.
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  Speaker 1: She completely broke down and said I was being vindictive
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  Speaker 1: and cruel and that I had only been the caretaker,
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  Speaker 1: but that our mom loved us equally. That phrase destroyed me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like, does she even understand what that... You were only
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  Speaker 1: the caretaker. Yeah, dude.
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  Speaker 2: You only fed her food when she needed it. You
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  Speaker 2: only gave her baths.
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  Speaker 1: I was her daughter. Yeah. You were just only taking
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  Speaker 1: care of her every need at the end of her
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  Speaker 1: life while she was passing away.
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  Speaker 2: Come on. Split the money, man. Just split it.
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  Speaker 1: Only the caretaker. I said some things I probably should
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  Speaker 1: not have said, and we have not spoken since. My
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  Speaker 1: best friend, Lisa, says I'm 100% justified. My cousin, Mark,
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  Speaker 1: says what I did was technically legal but morally wrong,
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  Speaker 1: and I should honor what our mom actually wanted. I
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  Speaker 1: genuinely do not know anymore. Am I the A-hole? And
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  Speaker 1: there is an update.
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  Speaker 2: Dakota, I know you carry a lighter everywhere you go,
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  Speaker 2: and I know that paper also disappears when you light
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  Speaker 2: it on fire. Would you have theoretically lit that note
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  Speaker 2: on fire?
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  Speaker 1: No, but I'm not giving her the money. I'd give
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  Speaker 1: her like $ 3, 000, but it would all be in nickels.
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  Speaker 1: And so once she counted it, she'd have to count
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  Speaker 1: it all and then be like.
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  Speaker 2: You shorted me. Low key. Oh, yeah, that's true. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I see what you did with $ 3, 000. Because I was like,
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  Speaker 2: why not just $ 1, 000, but $ 3, 000? Because this is half.
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  Speaker 2: This is half.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. They only had nickels at the bank today, though. Sorry.
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  Speaker 1: Weird thing. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: So then I had to go to the other bank
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  Speaker 2: and they only had pennies.
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  Speaker 1: I thought you'd want nickels instead of pennies.
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  Speaker 2: But I could have decided, so I got you both.
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  Speaker 1: No, I'd literally, like, honestly, no jokes. I'd keep all
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  Speaker 1: that money, and I'd tell her, tough nuts, dude. I
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  Speaker 1: sacrificed my entire life for three years for her, and
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  Speaker 1: I actually probably need this money more than you do anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she had a comfortable life, comfortable job, was working
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  Speaker 2: so hard at that job to make money. OP, I'm
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  Speaker 2: just going to throw it out there, I think maybe...
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  Speaker 2: sacrificed earning more money to take care of her mom.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. My great-grandfather kind of did something similar
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  Speaker 2: like this.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, where he just left a note, and then everyone
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  Speaker 1: had to, like.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't leave a note. My mom helped out more
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  Speaker 2: than other people did.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I think he split it the same amount amongst everyone.
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  Speaker 2: But that's just kind of the guy he was.
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  Speaker 1: It's just the way the cookie crumbles sometimes. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: to be fair, it is what she wanted.
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  Speaker 2: But it was your... Legally, it's your money.
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  Speaker 1: Update. I didn't expect my original post to blow up
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  Speaker 1: the way it did. I read every single comment, the
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  Speaker 1: ones that destroyed me, the ones that made me feel seen,
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  Speaker 1: and the ones somewhere in between. A few of you
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  Speaker 1: mentioned probate, holographic wills, and legal exposure. That scared me
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  Speaker 1: enough to book a consultation with an estate attorney. That
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  Speaker 1: meeting changed everything. The lawyer told me that mom's handwritten letter,
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  Speaker 1: signed and dated in her own handwriting, qualifies as a
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  Speaker 1: holographic will in our state.
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  Speaker 2: Holographic? Is that like, um... In Belantro?
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  Speaker 1: It's like Tupac. Tupac, Coachella.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I thought you get a holographic card sometimes in Belantro.
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  Speaker 2: Is this molten?
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  Speaker 1: This is actually worth 1.5 times what it's supposed to be.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, this is pretty big.
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  Speaker 1: It's actually $ 21, 000. I got the $ 100 million hand, by
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  Speaker 1: the way.
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  Speaker 2: $ 100 million? That's crazy. I think my biggest is like
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  Speaker 2: $ 3. 2 billion.
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  Speaker 1: Now that's crazy, folks.
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  Speaker 2: I was there besides you when it happened. On the plane.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, it was on the plane? Yeah. Dang. It is
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  Speaker 1: legally recognized, which means Rachel is legally entitled to her half,
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  Speaker 1: regardless of what the bank said about the account. I
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  Speaker 1: sat in my car in that parking lot for 45 minutes,
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  Speaker 1: just staring at nothing. I had spent three weeks feeling justified,
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  Speaker 1: and in one hour, that flipped completely.
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  Speaker 2: Dang.
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  Speaker 1: The lawyer also told me something else, that if Rachel
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  Speaker 1: chose to pursue this, she would almost certainly win, and
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  Speaker 1: I would end up paying her legal fees on top
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  Speaker 1: of her share.
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  Speaker 2: Ooh, leaving you with zero.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, just like you said, it's like, and
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  Speaker 1: this is why you should have just made that letter disappear.
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  Speaker 2: I would have asked Dakota for his lighter and lit
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  Speaker 2: it on fire.
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  Speaker 1: You could, which I don't have a lighter. Oh, you don't? No,
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  Speaker 1: I don't have a lighter. I thought you did. No.
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  Speaker 2: In case you wanted to start like a fire or something.
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  Speaker 1: No, but now you're making me think I should have
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  Speaker 1: one on me at all times.
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  Speaker 2: I might go fire. I got fire starters in my car.
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  Speaker 1: Just need like a flint and steel.
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  Speaker 2: I got fire starters in my car, a sleeping bag
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  Speaker 2: and a tent and a pillow.
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  Speaker 1: Fire starter is just a can of gasoline. I got
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  Speaker 1: some fire starters in my car. You have two arsonists
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  Speaker 1: sitting in the backseat of your car right now. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I got some fire starters in my car. Okay. The
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  Speaker 1: very people on here who told me to get a
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  Speaker 1: lawyer may have just saved me from a much worse situation.
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  Speaker 1: But here's where it gets complicated. Rachel called me the
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  Speaker 1: same night I still do not know how she found
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  Speaker 1: out I saw a lawyer. Maybe she saw one too.
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  Speaker 1: She was not screaming. She was quiet. She said she
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  Speaker 1: had been thinking about what she said to me. The
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  Speaker 1: jest of the caretaker comment. She said she did not
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  Speaker 1: mean it the way it came out and that grief
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  Speaker 1: had made her ugly and she was ashamed. I did
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  Speaker 1: not say anything for a long time. Then I asked
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  Speaker 1: her one question. If the situation were reversed and I
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  Speaker 1: had lived four hours away, would you have shown up
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  Speaker 1: for me? There was a very long silence.
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  Speaker 2: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: Then she said, I would like to think so, but honestly,
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  Speaker 1: I do not know. That was the most honest thing
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  Speaker 1: she's ever said to me in my entire life. And
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  Speaker 1: I made a decision. I am giving Rachel her 7,000.
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  Speaker 1: But I am also sending her an itemized document, not
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  Speaker 1: as a legal threat, just as something I need her
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  Speaker 1: to actually see. Every doctor appointment, every night shift, every weekend,
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  Speaker 1: I did not have. Every time I called her and
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  Speaker 1: she did not come. Valued at the average in-home care
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  Speaker 1: rate for our county, which is $ 6, 200 a month. The
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  Speaker 1: total comes to $ 223, 000 for 36 months of care.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 1: A pretty penny.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, dude, you should maybe look into a career as
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  Speaker 2: a caretaker.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't advise that, but if you can handle it.
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  Speaker 1: This has got to be one of the hardest jobs
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  Speaker 1: to ever have ever.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely, dude.
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  Speaker 1: I told her I am not asking her to pay it.
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  Speaker 1: I just need her to hold that number and understand
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  Speaker 1: what just the caretaker actually costs. She went completely silent
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  Speaker 1: and then started crying. Not angry crying. It was something else.
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  Speaker 1: We are not okay. We are not fixed, but we
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  Speaker 1: are talking. And the money is being split the way
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  Speaker 1: mom wanted. I think she would be relieved. I think
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  Speaker 1: she would also want me to finally sleep through the night.
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  Speaker 1: I did for the first time in three years last Tuesday.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Torment. Holy cow.
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  Speaker 1: Don't know how you're alive. That's wild. Thank you to
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  Speaker 1: everyone who commented, even the you're the a-holes, actually, especially
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: the you're the a-holes. There is a second update.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, you think the sister needs that money though? Because
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  Speaker 2: if I saw that and I saw how hard my
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  Speaker 2: sibling was taking care of my parents, I see a
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  Speaker 2: world where I'm still here in California and my brother
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  Speaker 2: has to take care of my parents. And if that
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  Speaker 2: comes out, I'll be like, dude, keep it. I wasn't there.
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  Speaker 2: And let's say I never, I would have visited. But
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  Speaker 2: I didn't. Keep it, dude. What are you talking about?
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  Speaker 1: Of course.
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  Speaker 2: That's your money.
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  Speaker 1: I have a feeling that the sister's going to give
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  Speaker 1: her a kickback or something.
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  Speaker 2: Really?
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  Speaker 1: I think so. I think it's a gesture of goodwill.
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  Speaker 2: Low key.
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  Speaker 1: And trying to make up for it. Because I think
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  Speaker 1: now she understands like, damn, I really wasn't there. And
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  Speaker 1: I put all of that on my sister. And like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what she did was worth like a quarter
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  Speaker 1: mil in terms of just actual like man hours. So.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Dang, dude. And I don't know why, but
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  Speaker 2: I have a gut feeling Rachel needs this money because
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  Speaker 2: she hasn't been making smart choices. And it's about to
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  Speaker 2: come out. Maybe her spending has been equal with her earning.
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  Speaker 1: Update two. I did not plan to post again, but
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  Speaker 1: something happened last weekend that I cannot stop thinking about.
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  Speaker 1: And I genuinely do not know how to process it alone.
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  Speaker 1: Rachel drove the four hours to meet me.
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  Speaker 2: What?
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  Speaker 1: It's the first time she's made that drive since mom's funeral.
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  Speaker 1: She showed up at my door with coffee and red
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  Speaker 1: eyes like she had been crying the whole way here.
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  Speaker 1: We sat at my kitchen table for three hours.
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  Speaker 2: This is what happens when blood money's involved.
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  Speaker 1: Am I wrong? She's going to sit down and be like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm actually involved in an international criminal syndicate and I
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  Speaker 1: need your help to get me out of it.
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  Speaker 2: Probably.
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  Speaker 1: Like, no, the reason I drove here is because I
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  Speaker 1: had to escape. You misunderstand.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that is a good point. I think she might
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  Speaker 2: have been a part of like CIA, FBI, something she
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  Speaker 2: couldn't really talk about.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's getting double agent. She had double crossed. She's
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: getting double crossed right now. Wouldn't that be crazy? This
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  Speaker 1: is the same kitchen table where I used to eat
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: breakfast alone every morning for three years while taking care
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  Speaker 1: of mom upstairs. She brought the itemized invoice I sent her,
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  Speaker 1: every single page. She had gone through it with a
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  Speaker 1: pen and circled things, not to dispute them. She had
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  Speaker 1: written notes next to certain entries, things like, I remember
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  Speaker 1: you called me this night, and this was Mom's last birthday,
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  Speaker 1: and I didn't know it was this bad. I held
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  Speaker 1: it together for about four minutes, and then I did not.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about things we have never talked about in
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  Speaker 1: our entire lives. Why she really did not come. It
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  Speaker 1: was not just work. She told me that she was terrified.
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  Speaker 1: That watching Mom get sick meant accepting that Mom was
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  Speaker 1: actually going to pass, and she could not face it.
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  Speaker 1: She said every time she thought about driving here, she
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: had a panic attack in the car and turned around.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: A part of me doesn't believe this, that part, but
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  Speaker 1: I do believe that there was the psychological element of like,
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: I can't face the reality of this. But I don't
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: believe she was getting in her car and then having
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: panic attacks and driving back.
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: Do you not remember the office when Jim was going
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: to check on Pam and he almost did the exit
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: to New York, but then he turned around last second?
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I don't.
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  Speaker 2: It's all good. It's all good. It's all good.
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  Speaker 1: But I do remember that. I do remember that. Guess what?
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  Speaker 1: It was like she was doing, she's going to school. Anyway.
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  Speaker 2: She's going to school flirting with someone else. Had a fiance.
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  Speaker 2: The cycle almost continued.
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  Speaker 1: Jam. Jam and Pim.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Okay. Okay. Not trying to, I'm not trying to
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  Speaker 1: be like, don't forgive your sister. But I am like,
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  Speaker 1: that seems like, I don't know if that was happening.
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  Speaker 2: I was a little skeptical.
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  Speaker 1: She said she was so ashamed of herself and that
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: shame made her stay away even longer. I did not
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  Speaker 1: know any of this. In three years, she never said
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  Speaker 1: a single word of it. I asked her why she
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: never just told me that. She said, because you were
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: handling it so well and I felt like a coward
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: and I could not stand for you to see that.
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: She said, I was handling it well. I was not
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: handling it well. I was just the only one there.
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: We cried for a long time. She transferred me her
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  Speaker 1: $ 7, 000 at the table unprompted.
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  Speaker 2: Whoa.
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  Speaker 1: I did not ask. She just did it and said
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  Speaker 1: this was always yours. Dang.
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: This must have been how Jalen Brunson felt when he
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: didn't get the $ 100 million extension and then won the championship.
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: Because now he's worth way more than that.
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: I knew Jalen Brunson was that guy, to be clear. Always.
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: When Dallas got rid of him, I was like, what
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: are they doing? Why? What are they doing? Anyway, let's
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: finish the rest of the story. I didn't know what
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  Speaker 1: to say, so I just nodded. And then, right as
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  Speaker 1: she was getting ready to leave, she said something that
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: has kept me awake every night since. Oh, no. You
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: just started sleeping through the night. She said mom called
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  Speaker 1: her three weeks before she passed away without telling me.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: Rachel said mom told her Do not let your sister
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: spend her whole life being responsible for everyone else. She's
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: been doing it since she was seven years old. Promise
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  Speaker 1: me you will look after her when I'm gone. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: We gotta go to therapy now.
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  Speaker 1: Uh-huh.
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  Speaker 2: Can we just give that $ 14, 000 to a therapist?
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: I gotta go to therapy now. After reading this.
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  Speaker 2: Holy cow. Since you were seven?
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: Whoa.
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  Speaker 2: I can't even tell you what I was doing at seven.
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  Speaker 2: All I can. Working at a sawmill.
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  Speaker 1: Emotions. Rachel said she promised. Then she did not come.
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  Speaker 1: And Rachel has been carrying that broken promise for eight months.
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  Speaker 1: I do not know what to do with that. I
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: don't know what it means for us. I do not
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  Speaker 1: know if it changes anything or everything. Mom knew. She
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: saw something in me I never saw in myself. And
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: she tried to protect me. And I did not know
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: until now. I am okay. And that is the end
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: of that story. But, oh, my God. Yeah, therapy for
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: both of you, please. Group therapy, please. Please, please, please.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: Well, I will say this brought you guys closer together.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: She never saw you before.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: Now she is. It's true.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: Good luck. Grief is an interesting thing. I still haven't
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: processed the death of my great-great-grandfather, and it is coming
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: up on a year tomorrow. And sometimes I still don't
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: know if he's gone yet.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's freaky, man.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: It's been a year since that incident.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: It's been a year since I thought you were goofing
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: me and I made you cry.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: No. No. All right, well, that's the end of that story.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: Let's get us another one.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's make Riley cry again. One year anniversary.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: My sister hates my fiance, so I punted her out
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: of my wedding.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: Hey, get out of here.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: My fiance, 32 male, and I, 31 female, have a
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: healthy relationship, and he's become a full-fledged member of my family,
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: most of whom live nearby. Recently, we decided to spend
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: Mother's Day all together. I have two sisters. One of them,
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: 27 female, has a great relationship with my fiancé, and
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: she got us all into a group chat to plan
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: a celebration for my mom.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: I'll call her Amy.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Amy would handle decorations, and I'd handle gifts and cards,
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: and fiancé would do the barbecuing. We asked my other sister, Leah.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: 24 female, to grab flowers and drinks.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Why is Leah so sultry?
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: The problem is that Leah rarely leaves her basement room
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: and spends most of the day and night sleeping.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: That's why she sounds like that, because then she's like, Leah,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: I'm just tired. I'm Leah, I'm tired.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: I was thinking, because she's like a dragon, and you
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: know how dragons sleep in gold and all that stuff?
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: That's why she's in the basement.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: A basement-dwelling dragon girl.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: With a vitamin D deficiency.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: She's been struggling with serious problems for years, barely holding
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: on to her job. We've all tried to do everything
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: to help her, but she's genuinely not really receptive and
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: gets angry instead. She's also been going through a rough
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: patch tied to a past relationship with an ex she
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: is now talking to again, unfortunately.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Yes. Mega unfortunate.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: She didn't attend our engagement party and she completely missed
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: the meeting of the families, which was an important milestone
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: for us. She apologized afterwards, but that has hung heavy
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: over me. And that's basically how things have been with
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: her over the past two years. Years? 724 days. By
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: the way, this comes from Recover Confidence. And if you
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: want to send me your own stories, you know where
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: to go. I'm Riley.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: I'm Dakota.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: And we're going to read the story goofily. If you'd
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: like to add anything down below, please do. Opie says, Anyway, eventually,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: after being badgered by Amy, Leah emerged from the basement
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: to go buy flowers and drinks. Beyonce and I tagged along.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: In the car, she began to complain about how much
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Amy was such a witch. for being upset with her
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: for not helping. I used the badly timed moment to
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: tell her how frustrating it is to be left without
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: her help for family events, and how it seems she's
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: been resistant to taking any steps to improve.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: And let me guess, she did not take that well
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: at all.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: In response, she went off about how she's too busy
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: saving the world at her job, she's a social worker,
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: and crashes every day at home with no energy to
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: do anything else, and that we'd never understand what it
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: was to be like her. I reminded her that we
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: all have jobs and busy schedules, and she snapped back
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: that we weren't saving the world like she was. By
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: the way, my fiance works in special ed, and Amy
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: is a school counselor. I told her she had main
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: character syndrome and needed to get over her self-victimization.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, that was some hot fire you just spit
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: right there. And it was 100% factual. Yeah. And like,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: if your job is of saving the world... drains you
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: to the point where you can't do anything else in
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: your life you shouldn't do that job you're not cut
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: out for it yeah you gotta do something else.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Hot take you should always strive to be at a
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: job that in some way fills your own cup so
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: then you fill others cups that's why i love my
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: job so much it's literally the best Being a social
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: worker is tough. I know people that did it. It
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: is not for the weak hearted.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's very hard.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Things escalated after I told her she acts like she's
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: the only one with problems in the family. Her response was,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: I never said that. And fiance, having a hard time
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: staying silent in the back of the car, said quietly, actually,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: you did say that.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you literally just said nobody understands what it's like
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: to be me. And it's like, do you mean a
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: human being with problems? Because we're all that person.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Fun fact, as someone that did get in between siblings once,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: you just never do it. You just stay quiet.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: You act like nothing's happening. You're just a wall. I
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: had to learn that the hard way.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: I learned that with my girlfriend and her sister. I
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: was just like, I'm not clued into this, I guess.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I'll leave that alone.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: You literally just got to let him do it.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: You got to do what you got to do. I
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: don't know. Whatever. Yeah.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: It's like, all right, I'm going to stay right here.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: If they ask me for my opinion, I'll give it
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: to them. Until that has been said, I am not
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: going to say anything. Yeah. Oh, boy. This is when
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: all H-E double hockey sticks breaks loose. We're at a
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: red light and she turns around to fiance and starts
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: screaming and berating him at the top of her lungs,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: asking who the F he thought he was. It was humiliating.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: We felt unsafe and got out at the red light.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: We ended up going to another grocery store and returning home.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Just imagine if they just got out of the car
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: and left it there and just walked away in the
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: middle of traffic. I think that's what happened. She's just
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: still in the car like screaming. Oh, no, this is bad.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: This is weird. You know how you have to react
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: in that situation, though? Just complete calm.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: I feel like stepping out at a red light's good, too,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: because she's driving.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, she's driving.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. No, never mind. Get out of the car.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Context! Fiance had a very difficult childhood with his father
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: and brother, who treated him badly growing up, so he
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: doesn't do well with aggression. He's a very gentle soul.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Leah didn't show up at the party for a while
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: after that. She was parked somewhere random, and my mom
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: was worried sick, trying to get her home. When she
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: finally came home, my mother urged her to apologize to Fiance,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: so she walks up to him very begrudgingly and mutters,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. but do not get involved with arguments between
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: me and my sister. It was not an apology at all.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: And my fiance, myself, and Amy are like, that wasn't
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: an apology. This enrages Leah further. She loses it and
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: cusses out fiance at the top of her lungs all
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: over again. Except this time, she doubles down by calling
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: him cringy, asking if he was attracted to the same gender,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: bragging that she had more testosterone than him, and ultimately saying,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: she never liked fiance since the beginning and that she
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: was not going to come to the wedding. For his part,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: fiance lost his temper and lashed out verbally at her
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: as well.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: And let me guess, I have a feeling the guy
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: who's like always calm, I feel like those are always
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: the people who are the best at that stuff because
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: they just don't do it. Not because they can't, but
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: because they just don't like to. But when you push
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: them to that point, whatever fiance said to Leah... absolutely
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: sliced her to the core of her being.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: She stormed away. Then she came back upstairs from her
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: basement with a vengeance. She charged at him as if
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: she were going to start a fight. My mom had
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: to hold her back, and I could see the fear
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: in Amy's face. In anger, I called her crazy and
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: said I didn't know who she was anymore, which I regret.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, I feel like I wouldn't know her
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: anymore either, but to me... It sounds like she's going
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: through a substance use disorder in the basement. That's what
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I think she's doing. I think she went down in
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: the basement, did something, and that's why she came back
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: up like she was going to charge through him like
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: a linebacker. Because she's got something keeping her stuck in
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: this loop, and I think it's a substance.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: There definitely is some, I'm just going to say it,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: some demon possessing her.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be the drinking demon, the snorting demon,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: the smoking demon. Something's got a hold of her.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: The funny demons got me. I can't stop telling jokes.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: I need help, Lord. Given his difficult history with his
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: own family, fiancé was shaky and rattled for days after.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: He has firmly decided that he does not want Leah
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: at the wedding because he simply does not feel safe
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: around her anymore. When this was verbalized to my mother
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: and Amy, they were both incredibly offended. Amy even said...
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Sisterhood loyalty comes first, and if that Leo was barred,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: she would refuse to attend herself. This broke my heart,
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: as she was really close to fiancé and me. Dude,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: if I can't bring my linebacker sister to the wedding,
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: I'm not going.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's absolutely ridiculous to, I mean, yeah, there
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: is like sisterhood, but it's like she just screamed at
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: the top of her lungs and I never liked you anyway. Dude,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: you're not going to go to the wedding. You're not
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: there to celebrate us.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Dakota, all the groom has to do is just wear...
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: football pants, and he's fine. That's all he has to wear.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: She's got to be ready to get down in a
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: three-point stance at any moment.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Is that too hard to ask for? For Leah to join?
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Come on. Maybe Leah just needs an outlet. Like, she
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: needs to start doing MMA or Muay Thai. Maybe actually,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: you know what, let's not turn Leah into a trained fighter.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: That's probably not a great idea. Let's get her into
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: pew-pew classes.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: How about that? Even worse.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: She'd try to shoot a crossbow.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: My mother says everyone made mistakes that day, instead of
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: pinning all the blame on Leah. She believes fiancé should
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: have accepted Leah's initial apology and moved on, and that
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: not allowing Leah to attend could push her over the edge.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: I'm a the a-hole for keeping her uninvited and standing
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: with my fiancé when... Two, three.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: No. Because guess what?
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Fiance is going to be your immediate family soon. And
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: you got to stick by immediate family.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: And he literally said, I don't feel safe around her anymore.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: That takes a lot for a man to admit that
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: from a woman.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Which just goes to like, I mean, she must have
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: been so incredibly aggressive. throughout this entire confrontation. And the
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: problem is they're like, mom's like, everybody made mistakes that day.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: But it's contextualized around like their mistake was not handling
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Leah with like kid gloves and letting her get away
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: with whatever she wants. And that's not a mistake. No.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: And they're still doing it. That comment. Everyone made mistakes.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Let's put her in bubble wrap.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: She was just a little crazy.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: And so to be clear, his mistake was pointing out, hey,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: you actually did just say that nobody understands your problems
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: and no one has problems like you. So I just
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: wanted to say that you did just say that. And
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: that is what kickstarted this whole thing.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: A very similar situation like this happened to me.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: That sucks.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: And we ended up breaking up.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Well, that's great. Because now you're with.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Love of my wife.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Those are my favorite kind of pictures. 1.5 right at
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: the forehead.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: It's beautiful. Okay, update. Fiance left Amy an honest, open
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: voice memo explaining why he'd be uncomfortable if Leah came.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: I'd have to wear shoulder pants all day.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Because I'd have to have armed security around me. Because
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: I'd have to move like I'm a prince of some kind. Fortunately,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Amy has come around somewhat. She's agreed to attend and
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: be there for us regardless and has decided to step
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: back from the drama.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, we got one person. We got to get another
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: person on your side and we're good.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Send that same memo to mom now.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: My mom has also begun to accept that Leah won't
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: be at the wedding, but she is still dragging her
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: feet and hoping we'll let her come if she apologizes.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Even with an apology... Leah has lost my trust and
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: won't be able to build it back in time. Ultimately,
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: the decision stands with my fiance, who deserves the full apology.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: And here we go.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Update two.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Leah breaks her silence. Oh, does she? Does she break
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: it with an apology? I highly doubt it. Just remove
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: the context of them being sisters and imagine this was like,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Like a really good friend? Yeah. And then the friend
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: comes out and is like, I've never been happy for
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: you guys. I've been jealous this whole time, and I
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: wish that he was my husband. Even if that friend
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: comes back and apologizes, it's like, that's great. I'm glad
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: you apologized because that was really messed up. However, you're
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: still not coming to the wedding.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: There's no coming back from this one, girlfriend.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Nuh-uh. I think she's now like, gonna, you know, be like,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: everyone in the family hates me. Everyone's always against me. Blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Sometimes you need rock bottom to realize yourself.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think we should let her be in
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: the basement for much longer.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Let's get her outside.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: And stop talking to your ex. Ugh.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Update two. Leah broke her silence last night and asked
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: if we could talk this week. It's another tumor story.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay. Not again.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: I plan on apologizing for the hurtful things I said
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: that Mother's Day. I suspect she might be trying to
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: apologize just to get herself invited again, but I'll give
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: her the benefit of the doubt. Ultimately, nothing will move
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: forward unless she apologizes directly to fiancé. Update three. Dakota,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: we are approaching the halfway mark.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right. So I don't think it gets soft.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: My prediction is this apology attempt spirals into a nightmare.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Fiance and Leah actually fight this time.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: I think so. I think they do an Oklahoma drill
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: and they play football.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Fiance gets pads. Leah does not. Leah gets her rugs
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: and Fiance gets pads.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: She gets to be hopped up on whatever she's got.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Update three.
• 30:55
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• 30:59
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• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Amy has changed her tune. She called me from her office,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: swearing at me. And when I asked her to cool down,
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: things just got worse. She stated she will not be
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: at the wedding if Leah isn't there, period. What just
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: happened here? I went ahead and took both Amy and
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Leah off.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: The guest list.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Officially, the wedding is on June 8th. It is currently
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: June 17th. I am so done with this. Still talking
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: with Leah tonight, but God knows how that will go.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Update four. What do you think happened with Amy?
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know, dude.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Why is Amy back on fourth?
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: It's like, it just doesn't make any sense. Right? Leah
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: did this to herself. Couldn't apologize. And also, they did
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: all this on Mother's Day?
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Come on, dude.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Poor mama.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Suck it up. You're fighting at the top of your
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: lungs with your whole family on Mother's Day? She birthed
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: you all. You got no respect. Just play nice for
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: one day, you basement creature.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Come on.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: I'm losing a lot of my, almost all of my
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: patience and empathy for Leah, who has real problems, is evaporating.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Update four. Edit to add. One Redditor mentioned that I
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: didn't include my fiance's insults against my sister in my
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: previous post. To be clear, he said this after Leah
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: said everything above. Her insults came first. She called him cringe,
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: and he hit her back with, I'm cringe? You're living
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: in your mom's basement while making no effort to get out.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: And that's as simple and true as it gets. And
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: then she went down into that basement and said, damn,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: I am in the basement. Damn it. Well, I'm going
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: to get out of this basement. I'm going to fight him.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, he also pointed a finger at her and said,
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: F you. I just want to be clear. I'm not
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: proud of him for that. Just want to be transparent.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: That's all he said.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: He just said those two things.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: I'll be proud of you for that, OP. OP's fiance.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: I'm proud of him.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: He goes for the throat, dude. He knows what to
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: say and how to say it effectively.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: He basically just read the giant neon sign that she
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: carries around on her. It's like, oh, I'm cringy? Mom's basement.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Three years. Talking to your ex. Didn't even bring that
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: part up.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Dang. Later, Leah and I got on the phone with
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: the goal of making amends. The first hour, we were
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: able to see one another's sides a bit. I apologized
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: for my part in Mother's Day, and she apologized to
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: me for yelling at him in the car. She then
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: explained that she felt disrespected by fiancé because he yelled
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: at her in her own home. She said if she'd
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: been in his home, she would understand, but it happening
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: in her home meant he was out of line. Dude,
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: you would have still yelled at him no matter where.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Yodo made a stoplight.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: That one was in the chamber already.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: I mentioned an observation my stepdad made. He witnessed everything,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: that she was the one to become hostile first, and
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: then fiancé matched her energy. That was when Leah immediately
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: shut down. She got angry because to her, my comment
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: was proof we were all talking behind her back.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Here it comes. Here it comes. Everyone's against me. Even
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: though I'm the problem, everyone's against me.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: She then shifted into saying that my fiance has gaslit
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: the entire family and saying to me, you were so problematic.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: And then I hung up on her and I blocked
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: her immediately after I called my mom. I've realized both
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: my sisters were physically at her home. I could hear
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: them in the background saying things about me being terrible
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: and selfish. I thought Amy was a good one. What
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: the heck?
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: How is it selfish to literally endure all of this
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: nonsense in order to make your partner feel comfortable? What
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: part of that is selfish? I don't think OP wants
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: any of this.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: My mom put me on speaker while heavily implying that
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: family is family and I shouldn't use my wedding to
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: punish my sisters. She explained that her own toxic family
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: failed and hurt her shortly before her wedding, but she
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: invited them anyway because they're family. No, due to that
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: toxic family being invited, it was actually a horrible wedding
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: and a horrible memory she doesn't like to talk about
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: to this day.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: She learns zero lessons. So actually, you know what? That
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: makes sense because she's probably like in the boomer camp
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: of like, well, I had to walk uphill in the
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: snow both ways. So why shouldn't you? I invited my
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: awful toxic family to my wedding and it ruined it.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: So you should have to do that as well.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: We've seen this before. It's the rite of passage. A
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: lot of older people have this with their kids.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: You got to do it my way. But it's like, also,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: we're just completely forgetting that this is like a punishment
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: to Leah. This is not. This is just a consequence
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: of what Leah did.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: It's not even a punishment. It's just like when you
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: pour water out of a glass, whatever you poured on
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: got wet. That's not a punishment. It's just what happened.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And they're not cleaning up with the towel. She
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: has to.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: And I hate you. I've always hated you. I've always
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: hated you. I've never liked you. Okay. Then you're not
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: coming to our wedding.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Super weird. She then breaks the news to my sisters
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: right there that they aren't coming to the wedding with
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: me on speaker? What the heck? They both immediately started
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: screaming and cursing at me, and my mom kept saying
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: they're reacting this way because they're hurt. I tried to
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: explain that I was done normalizing aggression in the family
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: and that I was starting a new family now with
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: zero tolerance for disrespect. My mom briefly said she understood.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: but then added that I also played into the normalized
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: behavior growing up, flip-flopping between, yes, we've normalized that, and
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: I knew it was a problem since you were kids,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: and stopped acting like it was worse than it is.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: She also said that in Spanish, so it was a
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: lot cruder. You want an apology, but you can't expect
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Leah to kiss your butt. At that point, I lost
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: my temper, screamed into the phone that maybe we should
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: just cancel everything, and screamed F you before hanging up,
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: and sobbing in my fiance's arms.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Yes. Again, so selfish of you to deal with this.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Very selfish of you.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: This is crazy, dude.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Honestly, like, at this point, I mean, like, in the moment,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: it's really hard to, like, be logical when there's so many, like,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: intense emotions and things being said and flung around. But
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: I think by the time we've gotten to here and
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: all of the nonsense we've already gone through, I don't
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: even think I'd get mad and it would just have
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: to be like a, Well, it looks like that there's
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: going to be no, you know, resolution to this. So
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: I'm going to have my wedding and I guess you
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: guys won't be there. And that makes me really sad.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: You guys aren't seeing where I'm coming from. You guys
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: refuse to do it. You guys are doubling down for
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: some reason. And it's not like he's a bad guy.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: He just, he just says how it is. He's just
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: chill like that.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: He said nothing wrong. He said only what was true
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: after he had been provoked and insulted. Yeah. And it's like,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Is he wrong? She's in the basement and has no
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: job and no prospects. And it's like, seems to have
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: no desire to want to change any of that. And
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: because of where she's at, she's actually turning all of
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: this inward. All these emotions she should be directing inward
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: to herself of like, oh, like this, oh, this, oh,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: this angst that she needs to direct inwards and say,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: I need to do something for myself. She just throws
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: it at all the people around her.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: She does have a job. She's a social worker.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: And it's super hard.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: And she's saving the world, Dakota. You forgot that part.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: She's saving the world.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I'm so wrong. You can call me
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: whatever you want now, Leah.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: It's your right.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: It's your right.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: How dare you? You don't even know how to read.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: It's true. I've just been freestyling this whole time.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: Holy cow. You're the juice world of freestyling reading. You're
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: so good at it.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: I just come up with all these stories off the
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: top of my head. I have no idea what these
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: words say.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Regardless of the suggestions to elope, the funny thing is
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: this was originally supposed to be an elopement with just
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: fiance and myself. Only months ago, my mom talked us
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: into inviting close family members, roughly 10 people, who have
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: now booked travel and bought their outfits. Everything is done
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: and paid for by my mom and stepdad. So yeah,
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: this was supposed to be an elopement. at our dream
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: venue became a family micro wedding and has now devolved
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: into an absolute crap show update.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Five i say it all the time say it dude
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: just have two of them You get the first one,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: secret wedding, elopement, perfect, beautiful. Nobody even needs to know.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: It's between you and your partner. Then you let people know, hey,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: we're getting married. We're going to do a little, we're
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: going to do a little thing. And then you don't
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: have to worry about if everything's going to blow up.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Who cares?
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Let your toxic sister come to your second wedding. You're
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: already married. You already had your once in a lifetime
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: moment of, you know, that's like so special. No one
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: can take that away from you. No one can ruin
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: that anymore.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Hey, it's Angie, your favorite fake redhead host here. And
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: we're going to get back to the stories. But here's
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: a three minute ad break from our sponsors.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Update five. Since the previous update, my mother texted me
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: to let me know that she and my stepfather were
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: pulling out of the wedding. I had a panic attack
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: at the public park as a result. Dude.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Okay. So they're the ones funding the whole wedding. They're
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: the ones who pushed the idea. At this point, you
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: just go, okay, thank you for letting me know. Then
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: you sent out a mass message to all the people
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: who are coming to the wedding and go, I regret
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: to inform you that the financial support from my mother
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: and stepfather has been removed from the wedding, which means
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: I can no longer afford it, which means that the
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: wedding is no longer happening. I really apologize that you
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: have all been inconvenienced. Please have a great day. Who
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: are they going to come at for that?
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: The mom.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: This is so much family drama. A lot of you
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: advised me to just revert to the wedding back to
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: its intended setup and an elopement with just my fiancé
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: and I. So after getting the news about my mother
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: not attending, I took your advice and disinvited everyone. Fiancé' s
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: mom and aunt were staying at the venue and we
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: agreed they could be witnesses. Otherwise, no one else would
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: be there. On June 8th, I had my dream wedding.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Despite occasional moments of sadness, I was so in awe.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: and so in love with my now husband, that the
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: day was one of the most joyful days of my
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: whole life, completely regardless of the family drama that preceded it.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: My mother sent me a genuinely nice message on the
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: day wishing me well, and while I didn't think that
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: changed as much, it was still nice to hear from her. Otherwise,
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: we are still no contact. For the most part, I
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: didn't give my absent family members a second thought And frankly,
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: I was grateful I didn't have to manage their chaos
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: or fear another blow-up. We wrote our own vows and
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: said I do in a beautiful, serene, fairytale garden, then
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: had the loveliest mini-honeymoon at a lovely cottage.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Ah, doesn't that sound sweet?
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: I want to do that this weekend.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: Are you free?
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: I got plans Sunday. I can do it next weekend, though.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: As for family, I have gone no contact with my
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: sister's my mom, and unfortunately now, my aunt and grandma?
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: They've heard the story from my mom and sister's side
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: and have decided they don't want to hear it from
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: me right now?
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: What?
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: They declined my offer to meet with them and just
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: have dinner? Oh my gosh. If people don't want to
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: hear your side of the story, that means they've never
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: been a fan of you.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: I just don't know. Like, what? What's going on? Maybe
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: they just all don't like your fiance, you know? I
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: don't know. Wasn't there some talk about the sisters speaking
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: Spanish or something? Maybe there's like a vibe in the
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: family that they just think he's like a weak little
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: like baby boy. Oh, yeah. Because he like, I don't know,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: doesn't shout and get angry. OP said how he shuts
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: down whenever people get aggressive. It very much could be that,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: but whatever. At this point where they're like, it's family.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh, you mean like my husband who's my family? Oh, wait,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: what happened to all of that? It's family. It's family.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: It's family. Because now he's part of the family. What happened?
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Honestly.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: When all the craziness went down before the wedding, I
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: sent a message notifying my aunt and grandma that the
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: event would be shifting to an elopement, but that I
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: still wanted to celebrate with them at some point. In response,
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: I received this text from my aunt, translated to English here.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: As you requested, I share the message with grandma. You
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: understand how saddened she is right now by your decision.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: She is not in a state to communicate at the moment.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: She will do so and when, if it feels appropriate.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: For my part, I deeply regret the decision you have made.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: I have been aware of everything that has happened and
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: I deeply regret the pain you have caused us, especially
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: your mom and your sisters. I trust you understand and
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: accept the consequences of the decision you made. Family love
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: is a bond that should never be broken by anything
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: or anyone. Family members are the only ones who are
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: there to celebrate joys and offer support with unconditional love
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: during times of hardship. Time not shared can never be regained.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: I respect your decision. No explanations are necessary. I hope
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: the dreams you have built together as a couple, as
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: the family you are starting, come true. May God bless
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: your union. Dakota, we got a touch left. What do
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: you think of that text?
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Family love is unconditional.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: That's what I thought.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: I'd be like, everything family always great all the time.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Everything family good always. I just hit her back with a,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: what happened at mom's wedding? Do you remember mom's wedding?
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: She doesn't like to talk about it because of how
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: bad it was. What made that wedding so bad again?
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: Can you enlighten me about that?
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Please.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: I think we forget.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Can you, can you regain my memory?
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: It's just, you know, this is just another classic example
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: of it's like, it's black and white where it's like
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: family always has to be great. There can never be
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: negative consequences or it's like this. If you do this,
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: it means that you've shunned you know, the sacred, but
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: it's like, shut up, dude.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: It's family.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: She insulted me and my fiance and it was on
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: mother's day. She said she never liked us. Why would
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: I let anyone who said that regardless of who they are?
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: If my own mother said that about the person I
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: was marrying, guess who's not coming to the wedding?
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I think to a point you can choose
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: your own family. Like once you get married, cause that's
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: choosing your new family.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: They say unconditional love, but, unconditional love looks like, what's
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: your point of view? How can I support you during this?
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: I may not stand by your decision. I'm going to
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: stay over here, but I still love you. I'm going
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: to be there.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: That's another reason why I hate that message is because
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: she said all that stuff and then she caps it
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: off with like the get out of jail free card
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: of like, And I actually respect your decision. And I
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: won't try to, and it's like, what do you mean
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: you respect my decision? You literally just told me I've
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: destroyed the entire family. Why would you respect that? Of
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: course you don't respect this. You just called me a demon, Logie. Yeah,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: if you respected my decision, you'd probably come to the wedding.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: So shut up. You're lying. And people always, you know,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: Matt Fernandez, who sometimes is on the show here, had
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: the clarification of like, people always misquote that blood is
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: thicker than water. And they take that as that your
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: family is always a closer bond. than like others, family first.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: But the full quote, and I think it was biblical,
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: is that the blood of the covenant runs thicker than
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: the water of the womb, which means the exact opposite.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's biblical or not, but it's
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: that the blood of the covenant, that the bonds that
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: you create in your life with other people are stronger
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: than the ones that are inherently there when you are born.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because when you're born, you have the blood of
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: your father, not the blood of your mother. Because the
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: blood of the mother never touches the baby. It's only, like,
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: her womb. It's always, like, the blood of, like, whoever
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: conceived the sperm. That's where the blood comes from. Sorry,
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: that's just, like, a scientific thing. That's crazy. Yeah, that's why, like,
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: if your blood type doesn't match your dad's, then that's
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: probably not your daddy. Huh.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: But no, I agree with that, though. The blood of
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: the covenant.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: So, it truly felt like a one-two to the face
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: to receive this day. I'm struggling with it and feeling
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: pain amidst the joy. But I think I'll be okay.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: And I choose to believe that maybe time will help
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: aid a future reconciliation. Fortunately, I was still able to
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: have my dream wedding and a beautiful honeymoon with my husband.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Nothing got in the way of that. I am so
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: proud of you, OP, because so many people fold under
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: this kind of pressure. And you didn't.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: You were right there with the person you were supposed
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: to be with.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: Against all odds, nothing got in the way of that.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: Good for you. Wow, that was a crazy one. But guys,
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: we got another story read by the one, the only
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: Dakota Payne.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: My parents gave my bedroom to my older brother and
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: I had to sleep on the couch.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: Well, this is something I would do.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, how comfy is that couch? Let's be real.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Is that a nice couch?
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: My grandfather and my uncle only sleep on couches. And
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: my great-grandfather almost died on his couch.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: I love a good sleep on a couch. They knew
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: what was up.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Anyways, we really don't agree with you, but okay. I.
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  Speaker 1: 18 female, just got back from my first year at
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  Speaker 1: college to find out that I no longer have my
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: own bedroom to sleep in and have to live on
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: the couch with all my belongings stored in the attic,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: including all of my clothes. And I am not happy.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, this is not, this ain't right.
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  Speaker 1: I will say before we go any further, why in
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: God's name would you put all of your clothes in
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: the attic? There's this thing called like, like a, like a, oh,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: well now I sound stupid because I didn't have the
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: name of it. But you can just like get like
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: the little portable like clothes hanging thing.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Not invented yet. The story is before that was invented.
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  Speaker 2: This is before the Industrial Revolution.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. As for God, I'm just making all
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: this up. I don't even know what I'm reading. Before
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: my senior year of high school, my parents decided to
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: move into a smaller house with a larger backyard, since
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: the only sibling who would be permanently residing with them
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: after a year would be my 11-year-old sister.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, just live in the backyard then. They got campers.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: They got a tent.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Dude, van life? Come on.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: It's really hot with the young ladies, apparently. A lot
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: of young ladies living in vans now. Dude, plan B,
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: I am doing van life. That'd be a good plan.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: Plan C, move to Japan. Car life first, see if
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: you can do car life.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: I could totally do car life. I really don't need
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: that much to live off of.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: I feel like I could do car life too. It'd
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: be very smelly though.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: Dude, air it out.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: That's what I'd do all day. The house in question
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: is a four bedroom house where my parents have the master,
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: my sister and I each have our own room, and
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: my dad has a room to serve as his office
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: since he works at home. I have two older twin
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: brothers that are 22. Their names are Joshua and James.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: James decided that he wanted to go to college, the
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: same one I'm actually attending, for engineering, and got a
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: full-ride scholarship to this college, about four and a half
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: hours away from our new house. And he just recently
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: graduated with his bachelor's, and he has been living in
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: his own apartment since sophomore year, which he is keeping
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: to pursue his master's at the same college.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: Dang, all right. He's got it figured out.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Smart guy, master's in engineering.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: By the way... This comes from TemporaryReality416. If you want
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: to submit your own stories, go to r slash OKStoryTime subreddit.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: I'm Dakota. I'm Riley. And we're going to read this
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: here story. We're going to try our best to give
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: some advice, but we don't know everything. We're just goofy.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: We're just goofing over here. So let us know what
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: you would do in the comments. And OP says, Joshua, however,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: has been very indecisive about what he wants to do
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: in life. But he did get a job as a
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: correctional officer and had been living in an apartment of
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: his own. Oof. Let's hope he picks literally anything else.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, there's some perks with that. You get to hang
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: out with people that have a chance to turn their
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: lives around.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: You get to hang out with a bunch of people
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: society has deemed too cool to let walk around.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: You have seen really bad things and have really cool stories.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Dude, I've went on a rabbit hole of like some
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: of these kind of stories. Horrific. Horrific.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: I only heard about John Kuryaku's jail time experience. And
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: that alone was like, I refuse to listen to any
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: more of this.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: Hey, Johnny K, are you a CIA asset still? Please
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: tell us.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: I think he is, bro.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: He might be.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: A Russian asset, in my opinion.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: He's someone's asset. Let's be honest.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: Russian.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: In 2025, Joshua decided that he wanted to enlist in
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  Speaker 1: the army, and my parents supported him through and through.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: I was at college when he went into basic training
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: in AIT. However... One day, James messaged me and let
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: me know that Joshua told him he was being administratively
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: removed from service out of AIT due to misconduct and
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: I believe failure to adapt because he was refusing to
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: do anything he was told. That'll make it pretty hard
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: to join the military if you don't know how to
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: follow orders.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the whole thing about the military is sir, yes, sir.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: Chain of command.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: Colonel. It's more like colonial if I read it for
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: the first time ever.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: Fast forward to May 13th, 2026. I came home from
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: college to find out Joshua moved back in with my
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: parents and had completely taken over my room. All of
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: my belongings had been put into labeled boxes and placed
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: in the attic along with my clothes and whatnot. My dad,
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: who drove down to my college to help me pack
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: up my room, did not disclose any of this information
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: to me. But when I started getting upset at this,
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: he looked at me and said, what? We didn't think
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: you would care. You can sleep on the couch or
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: you can go buy an air mattress to sleep in
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: my office. But you have to be out every morning
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: by 8 a.m. if you do that. Well, I don't
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: understand why you'd be mad. Come on.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: 8 a.m. is really kind of late.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Pops, it's not about that. It's about you gave
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: away my bedroom I was expecting to have. It's not
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: like this is like her fourth year in college either.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: She's 18. Yeah.
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: I was out by 18 and I still like had
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: a room to go back to. Like, every weekend and so.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: It was nice.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: It was tough whenever my little brothers took it over.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just imagine, like, first year you come back and
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: your room is gone and it's just like a jungle
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: gym for your younger brothers. Yeah, the playroom?
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: They're like, we just wanted to give your brothers some
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: more enrichment activities.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: That is kind of what happened.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: It's like, oh, cool Xbox. Where's my bed?
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: Where is my bed, mother? OP says, I didn't stick around.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: I took whatever I had in my car. drove right
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: back to campus crying on the phone to James, who
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: has allowed me to stay with him for the summer. Aw.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: My parents said that I'm acting like a spoiled brat
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: and that I am not allowed to come home until
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: I apologize to them and Joshua for the way I
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: treated them. They also threw in a comment about how
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: I need to be more grateful that they still allowed
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: me to be in the house after my first year
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: and that it is not a big deal. Am I overreacting?
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: How much rent is your brother paying you? That's the
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: name of my game, I'd be asking.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly... I might have sided with your parents a
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: little bit that you left immediately, but they just went
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: full nuclear on you by saying, you're lucky we let
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: you come home?
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: That's weird.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: I'd be like, that's great. Looks like I don't need
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: any more luck. I'm not coming home anymore. That's insane.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: And that you guys did this to me.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: They did this. You guys put all of my stuff
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: in boxes and put it in the attic, didn't tell me,
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: and then just expected me to not have access any
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: thoughts or feelings about that whatsoever.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: Nah, you're just, you're welcome to leave the door unlocked. Unbelievable.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: They're going to really regret that they said that, I think.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: No, that's unconditional love, Dakota. Yeah.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: Boy, I forgot. Family can't ever do anything wrong. Get
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: a load of this guy.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: Did you not just read the last story? Did you
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: not learn anything?
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: Actually, you read the last story. Got a little bit
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: more of the story. We've got some info from comments
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: from OP.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, does she return?
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just stubborn. No one's ever told me that before.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: Until my parents tell me that they were mistaken, I'm
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: not coming back.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you live on college, they'll usually let
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: you have an apartment for $ 300 a month or something
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: like that, depending on where you go.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really relative. We got some more info here.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: OP says, I work two jobs during the summer and
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: have a job on campus at my school in the library. Nice. Bookworm.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: I've been working since high school, so I have enough money,
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: but I have a few plans up my sleeve. I'm
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: going to apply to be an RA at my college,
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: and if I don't get that, my grandma has offered
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: me to stay with her in her spare bedroom during
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: all of my breaks. That's nice.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: Being an RA, you get free room and board, depending
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: on the college.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: I plan on going to the house and getting the
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: rest of my stuff and moving it into her place
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: so I know it won't be messed with or lost.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: If I don't do as they say. I definitely will
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: not be apologizing, but James definitely thinks that Joshua lied
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: to my parents about why he got removed from AIT
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: and that's why they did what they did. Because never
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: in a million years did I expect them to pull
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: this on me. I guess they can kiss their daughter
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: and now their son. Goodbye.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Well, let me say, if you do
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: a good job of being an RA, they will ask
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: you to be the head of the RAs and then
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: you can have free room and board. Or as long
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: as you want to work there. But you do have
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: to work at the school.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: And you do have to be an RA. Which, from
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: my understanding, sucks sometimes. Sometimes. Sometimes. One thing I will
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: say before we cap this off. Because that is the
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: end of that story. I leave the door cracked a
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: little bit. Because I think your brother James is right.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: I think Joshua did lie. And I think once your
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: parents realize they've been duped, they're going to come to
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: you and be like, we're really sorry. We were way
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: out of line. And we love you.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: Give him a little bit of a slice of cake
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: of unconditional love.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: I'd be open to reestablishing at that point.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: At this point, we must end. This is the end
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: of the episode. It was fun.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: It was great. I learned a lot. Yes. Yes, we did.
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• 57:55
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