Latest / The Gill Athletics Track and Field Connections Podcast / BONUS: The Podcast About Podcasts – Featuring Track and Field Performance

Transcript

BONUS: The Podcast About Podcasts – Featuring Track and Field Performance · The Gill Athletics Track and Field Connections Podcast

• 0:00
  It's bonus time. Here we go.
• 0:02
  This month in February of 2025, we are doing a podcast about
• 0:06
  podcast. We want to introduce you to
• 0:08
  other track and field themed podcasts that are out there that
• 0:11
  might be great for your listening pleasure.
• 0:14
  So all month we're introducing a new podcast each and every day,
• 0:17
  showing you who they are, what they are, how they are, why they
• 0:20
  got started and even their favorite episodes and most
• 0:23
  popular. And hopefully this adds to your
• 0:26
  podcast listening library. So here we go.
• 0:28
  Let's get started with today's podcast about podcast.
• 0:32
  OK, Why don't we get started today?
• 0:34
  Why don't you introduce yourself kind of a 32nd, 30,000 foot
• 0:38
  level of your place in this great sport of ours?
• 0:41
  And then what is the name of the podcast that we're talking about
• 0:44
  today? Yeah, so my name is Colin Burke.
• 0:48
  I'm a long jumper, and I have now bleeded into long jumping
• 0:52
  coaching and triple jump coaching as well.
• 0:54
  I suppose I'd say horizontal jumps coaching broadly.
• 0:58
  I work as a career guidance professional.
• 1:01
  That's my main job. So I work outside of the sport
• 1:04
  primarily, but coaching is a part time thing for me.
• 1:07
  But I've been in the sport 15 years as an athlete.
• 1:10
  UMM made it through to kind of national, international level
• 1:14
  and my podcast is called the Track and Field Performance
• 1:17
  Podcast. I love that Now I like to follow
• 1:21
  up with was the significance of the name, but you might have
• 1:24
  nailed it right on the head. So tell me what you focus on in
• 1:27
  the Track and Field Performance podcast.
• 1:30
  So I would say that the focus of it is, is to capture different
• 1:35
  ideas from various event disciplines as well as aspects
• 1:42
  of performance like nutrition, psychology, et cetera, from
• 1:46
  different people around the world.
• 1:47
  So I think that that's a significant part is that it's
• 1:50
  not exclusively coaches or practitioners in the US or the
• 1:54
  UK. It's it's really trying to
• 1:56
  capture the breadth of the international coach.
• 2:01
  So on our the Guild Connections podcast, in our pre interview, I
• 2:04
  always tell coaches, you know, we're not going to talk about
• 2:07
  X's and O's. There's other great avenues,
• 2:10
  clinics, podcasts, etcetera. And I'm always thinking about
• 2:12
  your podcast. Fair to say that your podcast
• 2:15
  you're really diving into X's and O's.
• 2:18
  Yeah, totally. I think when I initially thought
• 2:22
  of the podcast like that, that is definitely what I wanted to
• 2:24
  discourse, like the technical elements of let's say, long
• 2:28
  jumping, triple jumping, sprinting, high jump, you name
• 2:30
  it. Umm, and and yeah, so it's about
• 2:34
  that. And then coaching, like the
• 2:36
  communication side of it, like how do you deal with athletes on
• 2:40
  a day-to-day, the heat of the moment, Umm, as well as, you
• 2:43
  know, periodization and training.
• 2:45
  So it's, it's everything from the physical, the mental, the
• 2:48
  technical and the tactical. So as I said, nutrition
• 2:51
  lifestyle, like we really try to cover a lot of it.
• 2:54
  But ultimately, you know, there are a lot of performance
• 2:56
  podcasts out there. I try to bring people in that
• 2:59
  are very much in the world of track and field.
• 3:01
  So if they're a performance practitioner, sports
• 3:03
  psychologists, they've worked with track and field athletes or
• 3:05
  nutritionists, umm, or nutritionists have worked with
• 3:08
  them and you know, of course the event disciplines run across the
• 3:13
  throws, the jumps, etcetera. So it's, it's trying to really
• 3:15
  get into the, the nitty gritty of, of each of the, I suppose,
• 3:20
  aspects of performance. I love that.
• 3:22
  And what style is this you mentioned kind of interviewing
• 3:25
  so or is it all interviews? Is there any inner any ever like
• 3:28
  solo podcast from you? What?
• 3:30
  What kind of style can we generally expect?
• 3:33
  I would say that it's very much interview focused.
• 3:35
  I think the format of the podcast is always to get the
• 3:40
  guest to talk as much as possible.
• 3:42
  And that doesn't always happen, certainly didn't happen in the
• 3:45
  early part of my podcasting journey.
• 3:47
  But as as time has gone on, I feel like I've got more settled
• 3:50
  into just, you know, trying to capture a topic that will allow
• 3:54
  the expert to really get in deep into what they know.
• 3:58
  And umm, yeah, Ultimately I don't foresee myself going into
• 4:02
  the solo podcasting world. And I'll be honest in saying
• 4:07
  it's because I don't have the expertise that let's say some of
• 4:10
  these people that I get on have umm, these are international
• 4:14
  renowned coaches that I'm talking to.
• 4:16
  And I feel grateful enough that I'm able to, you know,
• 4:19
  facilitate an interview with them in the first place.
• 4:22
  Now, not to say that in in 10 years time it might not change
• 4:26
  into that, umm Bush. At the moment it is very much
• 4:29
  like me trying to find ways to get the most out of them.
• 4:33
  And and knowing that there's men and Maxes to everything, but
• 4:36
  what is the average episode length that we could expect?
• 4:41
  Yeah, that's something I've thought a lot about.
• 4:43
  I feel like if anyone is interested in my podcast, they
• 4:48
  probably are someone who enjoys long form content.
• 4:52
  So I I think I have a lot of episodes probably ranging from
• 4:55
  1:15 right through to like 2 hours.
• 4:59
  As I said, we're getting into the nitty gritty of, of the
• 5:02
  details of all these things and, and sometimes new topics emerge
• 5:06
  that we didn't really plan for. And so I don't like to control
• 5:09
  for length too much. I think of it more as a, you
• 5:12
  know, a range 115, but umm, yeah, probably like one hour and
• 5:16
  a half is like the average, but I've definitely done a lot
• 5:19
  longer than two hours at the same time.
• 5:21
  It's after my own heart. Trust me, I'm good with that.
• 5:24
  Come come. How long?
• 5:25
  When did you start this and and why?
• 5:27
  You know, there's a lot of other avenues out there for writing
• 5:30
  and speaking and things like that.
• 5:31
  Why start a podcast and when? So I started it at the end of
• 5:36
  2020, but I really had the idea during COVID and I think that's
• 5:39
  when a lot of podcasts began. The birth of podcasting really
• 5:44
  took off during that time. But I thought of the idea
• 5:49
  because I felt like I was someone who knew a lot of
• 5:54
  coaches from a lot of different places.
• 5:56
  Simply put, I was living in America in Monroe, LA at the
• 6:00
  time. But I've been, as I said,
• 6:02
  involved in track and field for 15 years and growing up and
• 6:06
  becoming a long triple jumper who wasn't particularly good
• 6:10
  when they started. I started researching a lot of,
• 6:14
  you know, YouTube videos where I would see the likes of Bouche
• 6:18
  Axe, Nader, Dan Path, Travis Gafford.
• 6:20
  But then meanwhile, like I'm watching the international
• 6:23
  competitions over in Europe, which happen every year,
• 6:25
  European indoors, European outdoors, Commonwealth Games.
• 6:29
  And I'm seeing British athletes, French athletes, you know,
• 6:32
  Eastern Europeans competing. And I start getting curious
• 6:35
  about, you know, who's coaching them and, and what, what are
• 6:37
  they doing, their different styles and everything like that.
• 6:40
  And so I think as I got into my late teens, I started to realize
• 6:44
  like I actually know a lot of different coaches from a lot of
• 6:47
  different areas. And that even became more
• 6:49
  obvious when I moved over to the NCA when I'm talking to other
• 6:53
  coaches and they're very familiar with the USATF system
• 6:57
  and you know, those who are coaching Olympic level athletes.
• 7:00
  But in Ireland the the sport has such a a broadview.
• 7:06
  We have a very defined club system.
• 7:08
  We have major championships, as I said, at a continental level.
• 7:12
  So I think again, I started to look a lot wider at, you know,
• 7:17
  who the experts were and and so the podcasts idea was I feel
• 7:22
  like I know. So a lot of people in, you know,
• 7:24
  again, these different countries that I've mentioned, I would
• 7:27
  love if AUS coach could learn from, say, a French coach or an
• 7:32
  Australian coach, AUK coach they never heard of before and may
• 7:36
  never otherwise, and vice versa. So I think that's really what it
• 7:41
  came down to. I felt like my kind of
• 7:42
  upbringing as an athlete really encouraged me to look far and
• 7:46
  wide. And again, you know, with our
• 7:48
  set up in Europe. And then just bringing that into
• 7:52
  a place where diverse guests can really start to share their
• 7:56
  perspective. Because, you know, as you know
• 7:58
  yourself, Mike, as a as a former coach, like there's many ways to
• 8:01
  skin a cat in this in this sport.
• 8:03
  So, you know, it's really, I think, healthy for a lot of
• 8:06
  people to sit down and hear a different perspective.
• 8:09
  Yeah, I I love that podcast and zoom that helps with podcast
• 8:13
  bring, you know, makes that world flatter and flatter that
• 8:17
  we can learn from a coach in Ireland, a coach in the UK,
• 8:20
  etcetera and vice versa in a podcast form.
• 8:24
  And I love that you're doing I love that you picked it up
• 8:26
  because is flat as the world already is with cell phones and
• 8:29
  Internet and social media. It wasn't flat enough and this
• 8:32
  is an Ave. that helps that. So I really love that and
• 8:34
  committee for doing that. In common business, every
• 8:38
  business we create what's called an ideal customer profile.
• 8:41
  So like here at Gill, we certainly have a lot of
• 8:44
  different people that will buy our equipment.
• 8:46
  We have moms and dads that will buy discuses for Christmas.
• 8:49
  We have architects, athletic directors, contractors, but our
• 8:53
  ideal customer, the person that we are thinking about when we
• 8:56
  design new equipment, market it, what trade shows we're going to
• 8:59
  go to, it's the high school and the college track coach.
• 9:02
  Those people. That is always in our mind when
• 9:04
  we do anything. And then everything else is kind
• 9:06
  of a byproduct. The same can be said for
• 9:09
  podcasts. Many different people might
• 9:11
  listen to your podcast, Athletes, coaches, directors,
• 9:14
  PTS, etcetera. ATS may listen to it, but you
• 9:17
  are speaking to a very specific type of person.
• 9:21
  Who would be for your podcast tracking field performance
• 9:23
  podcast? Who would be your ideal listener
• 9:25
  profile? Who's going to get the most
• 9:27
  value out of listening to your your show?
• 9:32
  I would say it's someone who is first of all innately curious
• 9:37
  because they are quite long form and they are quite detailed in
• 9:42
  terms of like some of the subject matter that goes into
• 9:45
  us. I think like curiosity and umm,
• 9:49
  a love for Gray area as well is important.
• 9:53
  So open mindedness I'd nearly say too.
• 9:56
  And then getting into more of the demographics.
• 9:58
  I'd say obviously someone who works in track of field would be
• 10:02
  ideal, but I don't think it always is the case.
• 10:05
  I think if someone like Stu McMillan is talking about
• 10:07
  acceleration, umm, you might see a relationship between that and
• 10:12
  team sport. Likewise, if someone is talking
• 10:15
  about how they, you know, manage conflict with athletes or
• 10:18
  something like that, which has come up before, who's to say
• 10:22
  that a performance coach in in any kind of level can not learn
• 10:26
  something from that? I think if there was an ideal
• 10:29
  customer, it would be someone who's working in the event
• 10:33
  disciplines Dash, you know, exist within track and field
• 10:37
  ultimately, and I would say probably someone at a semi elite
• 10:40
  or umm developmental stage. So or developed.
• 10:47
  I should say developmental would mean that, you know, we're
• 10:49
  talking about more fundamentals, which sometimes we do, but I
• 10:52
  think umm, again, it can be very detailed.
• 10:56
  So I do believe that some of the OR most of the subject matter
• 10:59
  would resonate more with the developed athletes collegiate
• 11:02
  and onwards If if I'm making sense by saying that.
• 11:05
  So if we talk about beginner coach, intermediate and
• 11:09
  advanced, beginners might struggle a little bit.
• 11:11
  So intermediate to advanced level of understanding.
• 11:14
  And do you, you know, I always think of you as the jumps first
• 11:17
  and foremost column, but are you doing all disciplines, distance
• 11:21
  throws, jump sprints, hurdles? Yeah, umm, I would say there's
• 11:26
  certainly a, a favorites towards jumps and sprints.
• 11:29
  There's no doubt about it. That's where I'm comfortable.
• 11:31
  That's where I'm naturally curious.
• 11:32
  I mean, I wrote down when I started the podcast, like 50
• 11:36
  plus names and I won't lie that most of them were jumps and
• 11:39
  sprints. Like there's no doubt about it.
• 11:41
  And I've had to get more assistance from other people
• 11:43
  that are really are expert in the throws and so forth to help
• 11:46
  me out with who they would want to hear from.
• 11:48
  Umm, same in distance, which, umm, you know, I've had no
• 11:52
  problem doing Bush I, the goal is always to keep it universally
• 11:58
  track and field. And so I do hope to do that,
• 12:00
  although I know there are podcasts, umm, exclusively for
• 12:03
  the likes of pole vault and throws.
• 12:04
  So yeah, I think those fields are being well looked after.
• 12:07
  But my my aim is is definitely to keep branching out towards
• 12:10
  umm all distance. You named it the Track and Field
• 12:14
  Performance Podcast, not the jumps or spread, So yeah, I love
• 12:17
  that. Great, great, great, eh for you
• 12:19
  column. The next question here is what
• 12:21
  has been it's kind of A2 parter. They're not necessarily the same
• 12:25
  answer here. You've been involved now for
• 12:28
  four, going on five years with the podcast.
• 12:30
  What has been your favorite episode?
• 12:33
  And then kind of coincidentally, another way, another way to ask
• 12:37
  this question. I always try to use these big
• 12:39
  words column. That's what I still need to
• 12:41
  learn as a podcast though, so just keep it simple.
• 12:43
  What has maybe been your most popular episode?
• 12:46
  Like maybe you're #1 most downloaded, so not necessarily
• 12:48
  the same episode there. What's been your favorite and
• 12:50
  what's been the most popular? Yeah, the favorite is a hard
• 12:54
  one. I think the great thing about
• 12:56
  this is that I now can say that some of my guests who I got on
• 13:01
  the podcast for the first time, and I, I mean, I contacted them
• 13:06
  for the first time ever, are now quite good friends of mine.
• 13:10
  Umm, I've met some in real life and, you know, shared coffee or
• 13:14
  food or whatever, and we text often.
• 13:16
  I think, you know, those really stay ingrained in my mind.
• 13:21
  Like there's a couple of those now where I'm like, it's very
• 13:24
  hard for me to pick, you know, another episode.
• 13:27
  And plus, you know, there's guests that I've got on that.
• 13:30
  Like I couldn't even believe I was chatting to them but maybe
• 13:34
  didn't play out exactly how I thought it would.
• 13:37
  So it's really hard for me to pick a favorite.
• 13:40
  But I can tell you, Daphne, which is the most, umm, most
• 13:43
  downloaded because I looked it up last night when I was looking
• 13:45
  at your questions and believe it or not, there was only 10
• 13:48
  downloads in the difference umm, and one was significantly older
• 13:53
  than the the second. So it was kind of hard for me to
• 13:57
  say. Well, actually, you know, if you
• 13:59
  ask me this in a few days time, it'll actually be different.
• 14:01
  I think umm, because that's the thing about podcasts, isn't it?
• 14:04
  It's just that the the views can continue to grow over time.
• 14:07
  The most downloaded, which I'm actually really proud of both
• 14:13
  the top two I'm proud of because it it shows that the goal of the
• 14:16
  podcasts being fulfilled. The top guest, umm, was Lauren
• 14:19
  Mealy of the Netherlands, who's coach and Femca ball umm, like a
• 14:23
  Clover and several other Dutch sprinters umm to Olympic, you
• 14:28
  know, gold medals really. Yeah.
• 14:30
  And so that to me is like a marker of an international coach
• 14:36
  from, you know, my my largest audience is the US.
• 14:40
  So the fact that that's the most downloaded.
• 14:42
  I love that. Yeah, I agree.
• 14:45
  They're connecting with the voice that maybe they haven't
• 14:48
  otherwise many would have known him because he is quite, you
• 14:51
  know, eh, at the forefront of the sport now with Femke being
• 14:55
  such a good athlete. But ultimately I think it is
• 14:59
  cool. And then the second umm Justin
• 15:01
  Rinaldi, who's umm a famous at this stage he's becoming famous
• 15:06
  at least 800 meter coach from Australia and hope and has
• 15:12
  coached multiple one 45144 runners over the past two
• 15:17
  seasons. Think upwards of seven now and
• 15:20
  so very different parts of the world, two different
• 15:24
  disciplines. Neither sprints nor jumps.
• 15:25
  Yeah, totally is short sprints at least.
• 15:28
  And umm, yeah, far and away kind of the the leaders on on the on
• 15:34
  the charts. I love that and I think that
• 15:37
  show, like I think that's a huge positivity of your podcast.
• 15:40
  If that's what what the top 2 are.
• 15:42
  Honestly, I would have picked, you know, Boo and Dan and
• 15:45
  Travis, you know, the three you mentioned, they're like, oh,
• 15:46
  those are probably it's I really love.
• 15:48
  That it was third. Yeah.
• 15:49
  Yeah, it was close. He was moving too far.
• 15:51
  Behind he draws a big crowd, rightfully so, by the way, love
• 15:55
  that. You know, our listeners, some
• 15:58
  have been with you from day one. They've listened to episode 1
• 16:00
  all the way through today. But most they come in and out
• 16:03
  depending on who the guest is, time of the year for them,
• 16:06
  etcetera. But you column, you've been
• 16:09
  behind the mic on every single one of them.
• 16:11
  You started a podcast back in late 2020.
• 16:14
  It's now about to be by the time you're listening to this, it is
• 16:16
  2025. What have you learned being a
• 16:19
  podcast host? Not necessarily like, oh, you
• 16:22
  know, Boo taught me the penultimate staff or whatever,
• 16:25
  but you know, there's a lot of hardware software, there's
• 16:27
  marketing, there's all, you know, how to get a guest, how to
• 16:29
  be an interviewer, etcetera. You've already kind of talked
• 16:32
  about, you know, I've become a better interviewer of like
• 16:34
  allowing them to talk and share their stories.
• 16:36
  What have you learned? What's a big lesson you've
• 16:38
  learned in these past four, almost five years as the podcast
• 16:41
  host? I would say that people are very
• 16:48
  generous with their time. I think.
• 16:51
  I didn't realize how much people would say yes, to be honest.
• 16:56
  I think not only that, but I think that trickles into
• 17:01
  afterwards when we talk off air. I can't believe how many have
• 17:07
  said like, you know, how's your track career going and and like,
• 17:10
  can I help you in any way? And I think that's amazing
• 17:14
  really. And I know that's, you know,
• 17:16
  something that maybe isn't a part of your answer, but when
• 17:20
  you think about elite coaches out there, you, you do put them
• 17:24
  on a pedestal and maybe believe that they're so busy and they
• 17:28
  will be just trying to get in and out and, and they may be
• 17:30
  rightfully so, you know, but that's, that's really taken me
• 17:34
  back. I would say, you know, the other
• 17:37
  answer would have been the interviewing side is really
• 17:39
  trying to like maximize that. And there's, there's definitely
• 17:44
  a skill to that, as you mentioned.
• 17:46
  But if there was anything else outside of it, I think that
• 17:49
  would be 1. Is that like really change my
• 17:52
  perception and on people, and particularly people who are
• 17:57
  really successful? I love that because it says
• 17:59
  something extremely positive about track and field coaches.
• 18:02
  So I like that a lot. That's very cool.
• 18:04
  All right, last two questions here.
• 18:05
  Colin, where can we find this podcast?
• 18:08
  Let's start with kind of the maybe the, I won't say the
• 18:10
  easiest, but maybe the most obvious.
• 18:12
  Are you on Apple and Spotify? Both of those and those I think
• 18:16
  Apple would be the most listened platform.
• 18:19
  Spotify as well. Yep.
• 18:20
  And yeah, some people use others, like, you know, where
• 18:24
  Google Podcasts and things like that, they're free.
• 18:26
  Once you're on Apple, you're on 100 of them at that point.
• 18:29
  So what? Long as you're on those two big
• 18:31
  ones there, Are you on anything else like YouTube?
• 18:34
  Maybe you do this on Twitter? I don't know.
• 18:35
  Where else might we find the podcast?
• 18:37
  I am definitely transitioning over to YouTube from the next
• 18:42
  few months because I had a coach from Turkey approach me recently
• 18:46
  and say that they love my podcast, but there are coaches
• 18:49
  around him that can't listen to it because it's not subtitled
• 18:53
  because it's an audio only podcast.
• 18:56
  So I told them that wow, thank you for letting me know umm, I
• 19:00
  will start uploading them on YouTube.
• 19:02
  I do think it's obviously extra time umm needed to do that, but
• 19:07
  ultimately I do think that that's a fair request to be
• 19:10
  honest, if that's what we're about here.
• 19:11
  So umm yeah, plan on moving to YouTube.
• 19:15
  I don't know if I'll upload all of the previous ones because
• 19:17
  I've changed a bunch of laptops since the start of the podcast,
• 19:22
  but I will definitely be trying to get the ones from from now
• 19:25
  onwards on there so people can can tune in and get the
• 19:28
  subtitles. Love that all right, last
• 19:29
  question here for you. You know, most podcasters, the
• 19:32
  average podcast listener listens to between 7:00 and 10:00.
• 19:36
  Different epis, uh, different shows.
• 19:38
  Uh, I'm assuming because you're a podcast host, maybe you listen
• 19:41
  to podcast. What is yours?
• 19:42
  We kind of expand our podcast library here.
• 19:45
  What's your favorite podcast that you listen to that's not
• 19:47
  your own and not track related? Yeah, it's, it's funny.
• 19:52
  It's definitely not my own, certainly not the first few
• 19:55
  episodes as well. Jeez.
• 19:56
  I went back one day and listened to those and I was like, it's
• 20:00
  good because in one hand you have to reflect and be like,
• 20:02
  look, this is how you improve. I know you're curling your toes
• 20:06
  right now, but it's, it's really important for your own
• 20:08
  development. Umm, tough battle to strike
• 20:11
  really. But umm, I would yeah.
• 20:13
  I think it actually is funny enough, not track and field or
• 20:16
  sports performance based anyway. So this one is, is pretty,
• 20:19
  pretty good for me is umm, the rich roll podcast and he's a
• 20:23
  ultra marathon runner from I think Colorado or he lives in
• 20:27
  Colorado and it's really a self development podcast that the
• 20:30
  topics that go on to umm, on that show are so far and wide.
• 20:35
  And I think he's a great interviewer and I love listening
• 20:39
  to not just the guests, but I love listening to him partake as
• 20:42
  well. To be honest, it's not something
• 20:44
  I I plan on copying, but I think he's a really smart, umm,
• 20:47
  curious, intellectual guy. So ritual if you're into just
• 20:52
  general self development podcasts.
• 20:54
  And as I said, they really talk about so many different things
• 20:56
  there. Umm, that would be probably,
• 20:59
  probably probably my number one right now.
• 21:01
  It changes, of course, like everyone else's, but that's the
• 21:04
  one for me right now. I.
• 21:05
  Love it. That's really cool.
• 21:06
  All right, listener. Well, as you can tell on your
• 21:08
  own podcast app, we're almost done with this episode.
• 21:10
  So here is my challenge to you. Hit pause because we're done
• 21:14
  here. Hit pause in the same app that
• 21:16
  you're listening to this right now.
• 21:17
  Just go to that search button and type in the track and field
• 21:20
  performance podcast. I bet you could even get there
• 21:22
  if you type in his name. You see his name in the
• 21:24
  description of our podcast here. Call him Burke, Bork.
• 21:28
  Burke. Burke.
• 21:29
  That's what I thought. Just an Irish Burke, yeah.
• 21:31
  That's what I thought BBOURKE just put that in the search bar
• 21:35
  and then here's how I like to like sample new podcasts.
• 21:37
  If I'm trying to figure out if like is this gonna be a one
• 21:40
  that's in my subscribing, right? One is I like to listen to their
• 21:43
  latest episode kind of gives you where they are today and their
• 21:46
  flavor and style and things like that.
• 21:48
  But then go back into the library.
• 21:49
  He's been doing this for four, almost five years, right?
• 21:51
  So he's got some great guests. You've heard him talk about Boo.
• 21:54
  You heard him talk about film case coach.
• 21:55
  You're gonna talk about the half mile or 800 meter coach from
• 21:57
  Australia. Go check those out as well since
• 22:00
  those are his most popular. Well, that means other people
• 22:02
  have found value from it. So go check those out.
• 22:04
  Make sure you hit the subscribe button on your podcast app for
• 22:07
  this podcast here. That way you'll know the next
• 22:10
  episode. You won't miss out on any
• 22:11
  episodes that he has coming out, but hopefully introducing this
• 22:15
  show to you will provide value to you this like he provides
• 22:18
  value for the the rest of the coaching world out there.
• 22:20
  So Colin, thank you so much for being here, man.
• 22:23
  I just bless you and hope you continue what you're doing.
• 22:26
  You're you're flattening the world, my friend, in our sport,
• 22:29
  and that is a an absolutely great thing.
• 22:30
  So thank you so much for for being and sharing your show with
• 22:33
  us today. Thanks Mike.
• 22:35
  Thanks for having me and and of course, you're the pod father.
• 22:37
  So thank you for leading the way and doing all that you do.
• 22:40
  Absolutely. You deserve it, brother.