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Patriots Unfiltered 11/13: Rams Preview, Practice Report, Building Around Maye · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 3: I'm looking at the schedule. I see more wins on
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  Speaker 3: the horizons.
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  Speaker 4: Six and one are saying.
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  Speaker 3: But I think even that last game against the Bills,
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  Speaker 3: if they're not playing for anything, that could be a win.
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  Speaker 5: At home, that could be playing for the division.
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  Speaker 3: Again, let's just get crazy and say they do start
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  Speaker 3: rattling off wins. Isn't that so much better for the Evans?
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  Speaker 4: Don't you like to see them win?
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  Speaker 3: Then?
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  Speaker 6: The priority for the off season for me is you
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  Speaker 6: gotta find a good edge you can play every single down.
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  Speaker 4: A really good edge rusher who can play well on
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  Speaker 4: all three downs.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, bo Polini hated us.
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  Speaker 4: The whole paper is just one big critique.
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  Speaker 3: Which which was like, I was like, what did I
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  Speaker 3: get so wrong?
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  Speaker 4: You know, especially in those days, right, I was.
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  Speaker 3: Still on board in those days when Evans said to Paul,
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  Speaker 3: let me finish when he was making a point, I
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  Speaker 3: took that as growth on Evan's part. And do love
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  Speaker 3: it when he asserts himself with Barthy on catch twenty two.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, sometimes you have to tell Bart to go sit
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  Speaker 5: in the corner, you know.
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  Speaker 3: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Wednesday here
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  Speaker 3: at ji Let's Stadium. It's Paul, it's me, it's Matt,
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  Speaker 3: and the booth will be joined later by Evan and Deuce.
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  Speaker 3: They've got their locker room duties right now, and then
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  Speaker 3: Evan will be going out in the in the cold.
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  Speaker 4: It's not happy about it, no, not happy about it.
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  Speaker 7: No.
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  Speaker 3: So so let's tell this story. In order to get
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  Speaker 3: from where Evan and Paul work to the media workroom,
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  Speaker 3: you have to two routes. You can either go outside
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  Speaker 3: the building, and then back in, or you can go
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  Speaker 3: up inside the building, down and up and down. So
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  Speaker 3: lately the weather's been really nice around beautiful, so the
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  Speaker 3: guys have been going outside and you know, they were like, oh, Evan,
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  Speaker 3: why what what's the subsession with the weather? Right today
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  Speaker 3: it gets down to the low forties and the guys
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  Speaker 3: go outside. Evan's like, he can't have it because it's
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  Speaker 3: too cold, and so he goes.
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  Speaker 4: He by himself.
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  Speaker 3: So all of a sudden, Evan's obsessed with the web.
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  Speaker 4: So Mike, Tamara and myself all just walked from me
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  Speaker 4: to E three to E twobe, which takes about thirty seconds,
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  Speaker 4: and Evan walked through the inside of the building. Had
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  Speaker 4: to give him crap about that when he gets here,
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  Speaker 4: well then he's got to go out to practice, right.
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  Speaker 3: But it is a little it is it's a little chili.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's chili. It's I mean, it's not freezing yet,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, it's low forties.
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  Speaker 4: And even because like Monday it was another like high sixties,
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  Speaker 4: so it's kind of tipping seventies in day. So it's
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  Speaker 4: been it's dramatic, a big contrast.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so uh, bundle up a little bit now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's time.
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  Speaker 3: It's brisk anyway. So that's that's your daily weather report.
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  Speaker 4: Could be good for you know, for Sunday. I don't
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  Speaker 4: think it's going to be that cold. It sounds like
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  Speaker 4: those sixties. Yeah yeah, but I was thinking if it was,
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  Speaker 4: you know, unseasonably cold, might be good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know for the Rant and the ROMs. But
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  Speaker 3: it's always good to practice in all weather. We were
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  Speaker 3: told that by a great old coach.
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  Speaker 4: That gravy here ball coach.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely take advantage of all the conditions as they were offered.
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  Speaker 3: All right, So what are we talking about today? A
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  Speaker 3: sleeve we're turning. This is turned the page day. We've
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  Speaker 3: got the ROMs coming in on Sunday, a game where
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  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure, Paul, you probably already looked. The Patriots
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  Speaker 3: are underdogs according to the big houses.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, yep, five and a half.
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  Speaker 3: Those that set the line, uh, five and a half
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  Speaker 3: points something like that, right, I think it might be
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  Speaker 3: five now, So I heard that those that set the
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  Speaker 3: lines no longer give three points for the home team. No, listen,
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  Speaker 3: it's it's two points if you're a Dome team, and
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  Speaker 3: it's a point and a half for no I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 3: I have it the wrong way. It's two points if
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  Speaker 3: you're an outdoor team, and a point and a half
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  Speaker 3: for dome teams. Okay, yeah, so I'll have to adjust
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  Speaker 3: that when it comes out.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, yeah, that minus four and a half right now,
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  Speaker 4: it's down four.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of Patriots money coming in, money money coming in.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. So you d Mayo spoke today, and you know
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  Speaker 4: there's an obvious emphasis. They want to try, you know,
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  Speaker 4: no big surprise here. They want to try to stab
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  Speaker 4: stack some wins, you know them a one two in
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  Speaker 4: a row this regime. He goes, you know, we've unfortunately,
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  Speaker 4: we've had experience with multiple losses in a row. It's
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  Speaker 4: it's time to you know, have some urgency and you know,
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  Speaker 4: put put a win streak together and and find a
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  Speaker 4: way to get back to back wins for the first time.
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  Speaker 4: So I think that's the message. Hunter Henry came out,
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  Speaker 4: Drake may they they talked about that. One real interesting
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  Speaker 4: noteworthy comment I thought from Mayo was he had a
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  Speaker 4: lot of praise for Alex van Pelt. And I'm not
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  Speaker 4: using the exact words, but paraphrasing, uh no, one deserves
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  Speaker 4: more credit for developing Drake May than Alex van Pelt. Well,
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  Speaker 4: that was basically that was the message of what he said.
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  Speaker 3: It's good for been listening to this show because.
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  Speaker 4: I think we think reserves, but.
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  Speaker 3: Somebody's somebody's been doing a good job with this kid,
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  Speaker 3: and we assume it's Alex van Pelt. So I'm glad
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  Speaker 3: that Gerard is a listener to Patriots Unfiltered.
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  Speaker 4: Right, Well, you know, Gerard as a friend of the program.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the program. Ye, So yeah, we were kind of
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  Speaker 3: wondering that a couple of weeks ago, like who who
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  Speaker 3: should get the credit for so far the development of
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  Speaker 3: Drake May because it seems to be going in the
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  Speaker 3: right direction. And he was out so, you know, it's
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  Speaker 3: interesting that he was out there saying that because he
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  Speaker 3: probably hears the noise and you know, everybody talking.
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  Speaker 4: About Greg was on yesterday on My show with Mike
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  Speaker 4: and Tony and you know, and I didn't entirely disagree
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  Speaker 4: with everything he was saying, but I thought he was,
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  Speaker 4: you know, sort of underwhelmed with the Patriots performance, you know.
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  Speaker 3: And he was talking so different than it's been.
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  Speaker 4: You know, And they asked him a very pointed question
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  Speaker 4: about who would you rather have Shane Waldron who just
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  Speaker 4: got fired by the Bears as their offensive coordinator, or
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  Speaker 4: Van Pelt and Greg I couldn't make up his mind,
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  Speaker 4: like he oh that's he. I think at one point
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  Speaker 4: he said the bullet. I'll take the bullet like he
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  Speaker 4: wanted the bullet, like I want neither one of these,
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  Speaker 4: you know. So I thought that was pretty critical of
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  Speaker 4: Van Pelt. I mean, the other guy just lost his job. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: they haven't scored a touchdown, you know, in two and
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  Speaker 4: a half games, the longest street I think it's like
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  Speaker 4: twenty three drives in a row without a touchdown. It's
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  Speaker 4: the longest active streak in the NFL. And he just
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  Speaker 4: lost his job, right, and you're saying that like there's
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  Speaker 4: no difference between that and Van Pelt, who I thought,
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  Speaker 4: I guess you know, I didn't watch it close enough.
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  Speaker 4: I you know, I like to take a backseat to
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  Speaker 4: the all twenty two guys. I thought he had some
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  Speaker 4: interesting little wrinkles that he that he put out there
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  Speaker 4: on Sunday. They didn't all work. No, they didn't score
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  Speaker 4: a lot of points.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it did.
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  Speaker 4: They didn't move the ball, and they didn't score points
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  Speaker 4: as well as you'd like, but I did think it
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  Speaker 4: was a little bit more creative and a little bit better. Well,
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  Speaker 4: ran the ball better.
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  Speaker 3: I mean Van Pel's job is I don't know the
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  Speaker 3: situation in Chicago in terms of how it's set up,
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  Speaker 3: like as Waldron the quarterback developer as well as the
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  Speaker 3: offensive coordinator. It seems like that's the case here, so
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  Speaker 3: you have to separate the two. And I think as
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  Speaker 3: a former quarterback in the NFL, I think avp would
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  Speaker 3: have a leg up on Waldron in terms of just
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  Speaker 3: developing a quarterback to be ready to play in the
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  Speaker 3: NFL because he's done it. As far as the play
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  Speaker 3: calling that I don't know, but it seems to me
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  Speaker 3: that it's something that Van Pel could improve on the
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  Speaker 3: more he does.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know yea.
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  Speaker 3: Whereas the other part of it, like how to develop
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  Speaker 3: a quarterback for the NFL, I mean, where do you
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  Speaker 3: get the experience to do that unless you've done it before,
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  Speaker 3: And I don't mean just playing having developed a quarterback before.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just you know, I'm not telling you that
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  Speaker 4: I think Alex Van Pelt is like the next shanahanol McVeigh,
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  Speaker 4: you know, or anything. But I think given the limitations
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  Speaker 4: they've have offensively. The offensive line has been influx virtually
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  Speaker 4: all seasons.
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  Speaker 3: That's the thing.
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  Speaker 4: They have no real you know, difference making wide receivers.
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  Speaker 4: Is that fair enough?
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  Speaker 3: Fair enough?
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  Speaker 4: No difference. I mean they have a couple of guys
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  Speaker 4: that have made some plays here and there, but they
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  Speaker 4: are no real difference makers. And he's putting it together
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  Speaker 4: like I listen, they're at the bottom. Yeah, Mike and
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  Speaker 4: Tony went to great links to say, when you finish
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  Speaker 4: in the bottom five, bottom ten, you know in yards
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  Speaker 4: points right, you know, and all these offensive categories. And
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  Speaker 4: that's where the Patriots are. I think they are thirty
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  Speaker 4: first right now.
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  Speaker 3: But I can tell you one thing. If if Drake
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  Speaker 3: May had started from week one, they wouldn't be thirty first, they'd.
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  Speaker 4: Be about twenty ninth. No, I did it yesterday, so.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but all those games with Brissette would have been
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  Speaker 3: played with May and the production.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just telling you the five games.
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  Speaker 3: I'm doing the Oh, you're just doing the five game.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, it's worth it's been worth about another three and
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  Speaker 4: a half points, which is significant.
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  Speaker 3: No, No, but what I'm saying in.
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  Speaker 4: About in about another sixty yards.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but if you add in if Drake had been
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  Speaker 3: playing from the beginning, I guarantee you though.
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  Speaker 4: He'd be playing better.
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  Speaker 3: He'd have been playing better by now, and I think
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  Speaker 3: overall they wouldn't be the bottom of the league.
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  Speaker 4: Much like you convinced me on the offensive lineman argument
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  Speaker 4: at the end of the show yesterday, I would totally
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  Speaker 4: agree with that because I think if he had played
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  Speaker 4: every game, you'd be getting a better version of Drake
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  Speaker 4: May right now. Yeah, because not just the version.
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  Speaker 3: Of those games were don't make mistakes, so he wasn't
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  Speaker 3: about moving the ball all over the field.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, here's the thing. The the numbers for Brissett are
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  Speaker 4: a little bit. Here's where I'm going to be a
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  Speaker 4: little defensive for Brissette. I don't think he played great, but.
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  Speaker 3: He played like.
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  Speaker 4: There was one game against the Jets that was an
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  Speaker 4: absolute train wreck that Thursday night game. They scored three points.
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  Speaker 4: They had like one hundred and twenty. Like that really
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  Speaker 4: knocks Perssett's numbers down. Otherwise, it's been pretty similar when
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  Speaker 4: Brissette plays and when May plays a little bit better
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  Speaker 4: for May, he throws her about. I think it's about
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  Speaker 4: eighty more yards per game. So they throw better when
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  Speaker 4: May plays, They ran better when Brissette played, you know,
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  Speaker 4: so it's but they basically yeah, through the ten games
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  Speaker 4: now it's kind of split five and five.
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  Speaker 3: That's true. That first game against it, it's.
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  Speaker 4: Like one hundred and fifty nine passes Forsett one hundred
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  Speaker 4: and fifty four or something like that, or one hundred
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  Speaker 4: and fifty for May. So it's like it's pretty similar.
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  Speaker 4: It May has been better. May has been better like
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  Speaker 4: across the board, and except for turnovers.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's that's a big thing. That's why you
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  Speaker 3: had Jacoby Brissett in there early.
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  Speaker 4: I think Brissette had two turnovers. May has five seven
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  Speaker 4: counting the fumbles.
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  Speaker 3: But like you said, you know, how do you come
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  Speaker 3: down on an offensive coordinator when you're also admitting that
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  Speaker 3: the offensive line hasn't been good the wives receivers there's
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  Speaker 3: really no one there that you know that stands out
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  Speaker 3: that you know, keeps up any defensive coordinator asleep at night,
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  Speaker 3: I mean from sleeping at night because you just don't
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  Speaker 3: have those playmakers. And so it's it's is it fair
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  Speaker 3: to judge a VP based on the talent? You know,
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  Speaker 3: you can't have both. You can't say that the talent's terrible.
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  Speaker 3: Oh and the offensive coordinator is terrible. Well, how do
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  Speaker 3: you know?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would totally agree. And I just feel like
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  Speaker 4: there were some signs on Sunday, you know, I, I know,
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  Speaker 4: we we all tend to make a lot of like
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  Speaker 4: I was sort of mocking, like how much we made
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  Speaker 4: out of the schooler thing, right, So I'm doing the
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  Speaker 4: same thing now with the like the little goal line play,
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  Speaker 4: you know, like they how they how? I forget who
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  Speaker 4: the who the color analyst was in the game the
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  Speaker 4: other day. Was it Daryl Johnston Johnson? He really did
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  Speaker 4: a great job of sort of explaining how that sequence
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  Speaker 4: was set up right on the goal line where they
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  Speaker 4: had Polk sort of inline on a run play on
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  Speaker 4: the other side and sort of trick the Bears into
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  Speaker 4: thinking same formation, same plays coming to the other side,
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  Speaker 4: only this time it was a pass and you know,
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  Speaker 4: you get the guy uncovered. So I thought that was
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  Speaker 4: there was some wrinkle to that. I thought the play
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  Speaker 4: to Austin Hooper, which kind of kickstarted the offense. It
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  Speaker 4: was really the best play of the first half until
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  Speaker 4: the very last drive, that twenty eight yard passed from
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  Speaker 4: May to Hooper. I think that was a scheme play that.
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  Speaker 3: Now, these are things that may made a great throw
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  Speaker 3: I mean, by the way, but you know, and let's
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  Speaker 3: not go crazy. These are things that every offensive coordinator
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  Speaker 3: should be able to do right.
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  Speaker 4: And that's why I said, I'm guilty of making a
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  Speaker 4: little too much out of these things too. But I
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  Speaker 4: basically I'm pointing it out because I've seen a little
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  Speaker 4: bit of progress. I've seen them sort of, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Daniel Olowski likes to say it's a difference between calling
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  Speaker 4: plays and having an idea of what you're doing. You know,
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  Speaker 4: it's not just calling plays for the sake of calling plays.
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  Speaker 3: Your sequences. There's a method to the madness. There's yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and understanding the flow of the game, understanding what's already
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  Speaker 3: been called, where the matchups are everything, It's there is
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  Speaker 3: an art to it. As Andy used to say.
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  Speaker 4: Commanders Eagles on Thursday night.
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  Speaker 3: Huh, what's that?
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  Speaker 4: Commander's Eagles Thursday night?
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  Speaker 3: A rare division game that you like?
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  Speaker 4: A rare division game on Thursday nights?
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  Speaker 8: You have?
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  Speaker 4: Do you ever see any of those?
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  Speaker 8: Oh?
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  Speaker 4: Is that right? They're all They're all division I know,
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  Speaker 4: I'm only two prob the only one that doesn't really
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  Speaker 4: love division games. Yes, yeah, I think I am you
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  Speaker 4: own on that one. Yeah, yeah, I'm probably.
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  Speaker 3: Wrong because maybe over the years it was always a
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  Speaker 3: FC East that you were looking at it.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I just I like I like matchups like this
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  Speaker 4: one Patriots rams that you see, Like, you know, what
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  Speaker 4: was the last time we play we.
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  Speaker 3: Played the plays the NL and Baseball.
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  Speaker 9: See.
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  Speaker 4: I used to like interleague play, but now every team
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: plays everybody every year.
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  Speaker 3: Now it's not special, it's a deal anymore.
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  Speaker 4: But I would rather see Yeah, I'd rather see the
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: Patriots the Red Sox play like the Rodgers in a
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  Speaker 4: three game series, then for the fifth time a three
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  Speaker 4: game series, right, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, although every time they play the Yankees it's Fox
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  Speaker 3: and ESPN every games.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, so you like the You like the
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  Speaker 4: division games though as a as a general rule.
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  Speaker 3: If that both teams are playing well like in this case.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, thisn'd be one that I'd be interested in. You know.
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  Speaker 4: Last week's was obviously a really good game with Cincinnati
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  Speaker 4: and Baltimore. You know, Pittsburgh Baltimore games would be worth
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  Speaker 4: watching coming up. They haven't played yet, and those those
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  Speaker 4: two are at the.
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  Speaker 3: Top I'm not interested in Saints Falcons.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's a bloodbath.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean for them, it's a big rivalry, but
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  Speaker 3: I don't really care about it.
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  Speaker 4: Right, Like I just I've seen I see that twice
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  Speaker 4: a year every year. I don't need to see the
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  Speaker 4: Bears and Packers play for the you know, one hundred
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  Speaker 4: and ninety seventh time.
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  Speaker 3: All right, So so getting back to the Patriots, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's that was a big topic today, wi you Rod,
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  Speaker 3: and like you said, also backing up wins, it would
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: so if they win, you know, this week, it'll be
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: the first time they've won back to back games this season. Yes,
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: so it's a big deal.
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: And I don't think they did last year either that
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: the Pittsburgh Denver games, they weren't consecutive, were.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: They, Paul? Yeah, I mean, come on, I can't remember.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: Sorry, I mean, you're the way I remember.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: How can I? But I do think this game is winnable,
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: even being now four and a half point underdogs.
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: So is there a game that you don't think is winnable?
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: Because I don't have any games that.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: The game in Buffalo really even that game.
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because the other team could always not play well,
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: and you could win.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: Well, Okay, but I see what you're saying. Anyone can
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: beat anyone on any given day.
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, but did anybody think that the Broncos had
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: any chance to beat the Chiefs?
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: I did? Okay, yeah, I did. Division I think I
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: said that when.
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: I think all games are winnable in the NFL, I
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: think there's not really a huge difference. And if one
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: team doesn't have it, okay, I think the other team
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: can win.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Let's just say, then, then let's qualify it a better
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: a better chance than usual to win this, you know,
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: for a five and a half point underdog.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: Okay, So why do you think that?
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: I just don't think the Rams are playing that well,
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: that's why.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: Well they had been until Monday, Yeah, in a row.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: But their offense has been their offense has been been
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: very good. It's hot and cold.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: But since since Cupp and Nkua came back, it's been
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: very good. Yeah, until again Monday night. Now, who knows,
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: Maybe that's what they are. Maybe they're back to not
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: being so good. But before that they had had thirty
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: at Seattle, not an easy place to play. I think
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: they had twenty six in another game. But what they've
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: missed most of the season, those two receivers.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: You know that I need to see the context of
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: those points. Okay, you know.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: That's true. They did have a pick six in the
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: Seattle game, right, they're just off the top of my head,
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: you're right. So, but I think even in the game
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: the other night, moved the ball into the red zone.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: Couldn't couldn't get touchdowns. Like, if you get touchdowns, it's
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: a whole different game.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: But they didn't get the touchdowns because of their own mistakes,
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: So maybe they don't. That's what I'm saying. You can
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: lose if you don't play well.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: Right, So, I don't know. I just get the sense
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: that this is a winnable game for the Patriots.
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah. There wasn't consecutive games last year, so it'd be
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: the first time in two seasons. Yeah, for a long time.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I don't know. I mean, obviously, the bookies,
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: I think the Rams have the advantage, even going cross country,
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: I would agree.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: The bookies thought Chicago had the advantage. And you know,
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: I think they were like a five point favorite too,
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: Is that right?
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: They were up there that much something like that. Yeah,
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: So we'll see. That's why they play the games. But
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: I think you know, everyone's on Stafford. I think Stafford's
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: been fine. I don't think he's the issue. I don't
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: think everyone he wasn't the issue. Certainly.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: My last game I thought, just based on again, just
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: based on the highlights that I saw, he didn't look
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: like he was very sharp. I thought he missed one
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: of those incompletions in the end zone. I thought he
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: missed Karen Williams was pretty open at the goal line.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: But then you guys who actually watched the game, which
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: I didn't know, you guys said that it wasn't on,
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: it wasn't protection. And he's certainly enough.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: To win that game.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: So I would say that if the Patriots are going
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: to win this game, you're gonna need some some turnovers
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: from the Rams, some help from the Rams. If the
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: Rams played reasonably well, I think that they would win
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: the game.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: Don't you think how are they generating pressure on the quarterback,
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: because that's that's a big time.
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: They have a lot of different guys with sacks, but
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: they don't have like the one big guy. They're all
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: young guys. They have Braden Fisk and Jared Vers are
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: like the first and second round verse. I know they're
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: both doing well. They have I think Byron Young is
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: a second year guy. These guys all have like four
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: and five sacks. They have like five guys with like
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: four three or four five sacks, but they don't have
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: anybody with like eleven sacks.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: They don't have like Trey Hendrickson on the outside that's dominating.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: But I think that's a young defense that really struggled
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: early in the year and has been better lately.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it. I mean, that's the thing. Can well,
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Drake may have time. I don't want him running around.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: I want him to be able to be on schedule
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: and uh, you know, I just.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: Want to make sure I'm not messing up names.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: You know, have the time to hit these receivers, because
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: as much as we love watching him run, we need
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: to see the offense, you know, perform as it's drawn up.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: Byron Young is the second year guy that I was
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: thinking of off the edge. Yeah, he's he's played pretty
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: well too. They're they're coming into their own. They've had
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: some injuries and some of those guys up front are
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: coming back. This will be a tough game unless the rims,
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: you know, just completely lay an egg, which could happen, Yes, Chigo,
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: just did you know these things happen? But they have. Yeah,
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: I don't have the latest update here. Yeah. Five five
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: sacks for Turner, five sacks for Young, four sacks for Verse,
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: three sacks for Fisk, three for Hay. They have like
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: five five guys.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: With three or more sacks.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: That's a lot. Yeah, But I don't think it's a
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: team that's necessarily built on well, we're just gonna they
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: don't have Aaron Donald's, let's put it that way.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: I think when you have a creative offensive coordinator slash
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: coach like mcvey's, I think that trickles down to the defense.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: You know, some of that creativity kind of rubs off,
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: and I think that's what you see in the distribution
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: of the pressure. You know, they probably dial up things
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: and bring it from different areas. You know, have been
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: relatively successful doing that.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and they've been able to create the way the
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: secondary is not like statistically has not been good. But
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: they do take the ball away a little bit. Yeah,
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: so again I'm going to protect the ball.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: So on the other side of the ball, you know,
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: I think it was a great game for a lot
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: of you know, second, you know, guys that didn't start
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: this season as starters and have been thrust in that
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: position for the Patriots. The question is is it wasn't real?
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: How much of it was the Bears? You know? And
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: I think this is a great test for that because
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: you're gonna be stressed. They've got the Rams have talent
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: in different areas, so it's not like you can just
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: take out one guy and okay, now the offense collapses. No,
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: They've got a lot of talent in different areas. So
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: if the defense can come close to last week's performance,
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: I mean that's what I do.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: I do agree with you in that it's winnable because
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: I don't think the Rams are quite there yet. Yeah,
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: Like I think that they've they've done a good job
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: I think of rebuilding on the fly, and they've really
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: turned over the defense. But I don't think it's a
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: team that you just look at and say, well, you know,
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: they're going to win this game, They're going to win
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: that game. You know, they were life and death with
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: the Raiders a few weeks back. Yea, you know, they've
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: had some they've played better, but they've also struggled that record.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: Now four and five, four.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: And five, I mean that's who they are, right, you know?
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: Now? They are that because of the mass of injuries
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: they had in the first month and a half. I
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: mean they played some of those games with literally no
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: they were one in four because nobody was. I mean,
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: they had like three linemen.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: Two receivers for injuries. No.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: I'm just like, but when those guys came back, they won.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: That's like, to me, that's the difference. When their personnel
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: is on the field. They've generally won except for Monday Monday, right,
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: And you said that they just made mistakes, and I
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: would absolutely defer to you because I didn't. I didn't
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: see it.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they were their own worst enemy in
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: that game.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: So I think you're gonna need something like that to
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: win again. That's kind of the point.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: And obviously I was rooting for the Rams, so I
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: was getting more frustrated because I wanted them to beat
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: the Dolphins.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: I'm curious as to why I don't.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: I just don't like the Dolphins. I want them to lose.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: I hate for no reason.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not like it's not like I'm saying, oh,
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: you know, the Patriots are battling for positioning for the
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: playoffs against the Dolphins. No, I just wanted the Dolphins
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: to lie.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: I didn't know if maybe you were doing that whole
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: it's better to play the team that you're gonna play
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: coming off a win than a loss. A lot of
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: people buy that. Oh yeah, I'm not a big fan.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: I wasn't thinking of that. No, I'm not a big
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: fan of that. Yeh.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: Like, I think it's better that they maybe now look back, now,
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: maybe we're not that good, Maybe we are the one
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: in four team. Maybe they have some doubt. Yeah, you
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: know what I mean.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: So, but both teams, you know, because it's good scouting
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: for the Patriots because they have those teams back to back.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: Both those teams did not play well. It wasn't good football.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: The Dolphins defense played well, but they couldn't. They didn't
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: move the ball very well.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: That they they really didn't.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: They did have that good drive at the end.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: And I will say that, you know too, at some
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: point times was inaccurate. But he was let down by
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: his receivers too. I mean, I mean there was one
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: it was Mons were great downfield. Waddle had at least
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: a thirty yard should have been catched right through his hands,
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: hit him in the helmet. I mean it was all
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: so we'll see. It's going to be an interesting two weeks.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: But I would love to just get that two games
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: in a row, a win at home. You know, we
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: Gillette Stadium has ceased to be the big advantage it
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: used to be in terms of home field advantage. So
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: it would be great to just get another home win
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: this year against a good team, have a little momentum
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: going down to Miami, a tough place to play for
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: the Patriot.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: It's yeah. I mean, we'll see what the state that
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: the Dolphins are in in that game. I don't give
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: them much of a shot in that one.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Patriots.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, Colts Well went back and made a quarterback change.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, back to Richardson.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: So you can pencil that one and that's a w.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: Well I think either one. I think.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: I think it's a big difference in Flacco plays, not
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: the way you can throw against Minnesota. Yeah you don't
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: have that, like you can't, like you Why don't you
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: watch the other games that he played?
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah? No, no's he's been getting worse. I'm not worried
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: about Joe Flacco.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: But you don't have to. I don't have to, and
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: he's not playing.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: So now you have to worry about a guy who's
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: going to run around a little.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: He can't play yet, he's not ready. Now you can't throw.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: It's kind of a tricky. That's a kind of a requirement,
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: kind of have to do that quarterback. It's kind of
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: like when Costanza wanted to be like the announcer yea,
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: you know, made the witty comments.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: You know, you kind of had to have done that.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: It's interesting because last year when he's started, he wasn't
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: playing poorly Richardson until he got hurt.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but most of what he was doing was just
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: kind of being an athlete.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: But that was his thing coming out of college. They
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: knew he was raw, he was.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I thought it was weird that. First
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: of all, I never would have taken him that high,
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: but I thought it was weird that they gave him
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: the starting job right out of the shoot.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: So all right, so I I think.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: I mean they almost made the playoffs with godn minshew. Yeah,
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: I think he stinks.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: I think the Colts is a game you should win absolutely.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Uh all right, can I change should to could could. Okay, Yeah,
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: But just say that to me. You say every game
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: is could.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: I but I think that they have a better better
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: chance in that game than the other the other seven remains.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: I agree with that that's the best chance for a
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: win out of those seven remainis. Yes, I agree in
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: my view. Not telling you they're only going to win
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: one game. I'm just saying that's the best odds I
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: would give them, And largely because of Anthony Richardson, I
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: just don't think he's ready to win.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: So if the Patriots end up with five wins this season,
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: is this a better season than last season?
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: Sure? Okay, because you're playing a rookie quarterback.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: I heard something, Yeah, I heard that you have like hope.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: For the future. Yep, yeah, I mean provided that, Like
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: I would feel better about it if he played better
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: than he did Sunday. Like if they win all the
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: games like they did Sunday, I won't feel as good
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: about it, but I'll still feel better about it than
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: last year. Yeah, because you have a rookie quarterback and
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: you're on the way up, Like, can't you feel like
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: I'm I don't know, I'm probably being corny. Can't you
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: feel like a difference between the.
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: Way Oh god, yeah, people sort of have.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: Responded to Drake May's presence then they then then last year,
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: like last year was no one talking about, wow, look
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: at these wins, like this is great. No one was
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: talking like that.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: Last year was just a terrible feeling overall. It wasn't
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: just Mac Jones, it was just the whole feeling of
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: the team. It was it was just I.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: Think, But I think that's the difference is Drake May. Yeah,
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: noything else is largely the same.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I think you just felt like you were just
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: playing it out last year and nobody was talking to
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: everybody that it was just like, I know, mommy and
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: Daddy were fighting.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: You know, some people probably felt like, well, if you
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: could get Mac Jones two top receivers and fix the
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: offensive line, you know, they could do all this. I didn't. Yeah,
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: so I didn't really have any hope, right, But now
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: I do have hope. Yeah, because I think that if
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: you do plug in with the right guys, and I'm
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: not saying it would be an overnight fix, but I
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: think if you got him two really good receivers, your
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: offensive line theory from yesterday that you sold me on,
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: like all of a sudden, I think you have the
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: makings are having a pretty good offense.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: I want to talk about that for a sink, because
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: I was thinking about something when it comes to offensive line.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: But the rest of the football intelligence gentsia has caught
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: up with you, Paul, caught up with you and me.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: You have you seen all the praise of Drake May
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: as a person that's come out yesterday like you were,
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: you were, I think they're listening to you. But all
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: the stuff about him is a good guy, a great leader,
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: like I just oh, yeah, it was.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not saying any of that. I'm just
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: telling you that I watched this guy. I haven't spoken
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: to him by my you know, aside from the day
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: that we had him on the show. I think that's
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: probably the only time that we've individually spoken to him.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: I just like the way he.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: Carries himself, and the rest of the league agrees.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: You know. I'm I don't know what it says about
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: him being a great leader, Like I don't think any
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: any of that. I'm not ready to say, well that
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: that is fact, Like I don't know about how any
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: of that's going to play out. But I'm just telling
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: you I like him, And I know that sounds so corny,
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: but I like him.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: And I think the team likes him. I think his
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: coaches like him. And uh and now these analysts across
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: the league.
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: Even today, he's talking about, you know, being more productive
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: offensively in the red zone, and you know that starts
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: with me. I can't throw an interception. The interception wasn't
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: even in the red zone. But he's bringing up his mistake.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: I like that.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that. I have a feeling that when
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: it comes to offensive line, we're gonna have a lot
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: of good discussions in the off season as we get
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: close to the draft and how the Patriots should use
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: their money and their assets and all that stuff. But
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: tell me, if you agree with this, if you have
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: five good linemen, not great, five good linemen, you can
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: have an elite line.
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: You'll be fine. Yeah. Absolutely, in the NFL, I don't
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: I don't need an elite line. Let me can just
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: state that emphatically. Yeah, I just can't have guys that
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: can't get in the way. I can't have what I
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: saw Chicago do Sunday. But you have you seen much
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: of a worse performance by a line than that.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: But it was awful, but the whole thing was terrible.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: It can't be like that.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: What I'm trying to say is, to me, it's more
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: important to have five good guys than have one or
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: two really good guys and then the rest stink.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: Well, the Chiefs do it that way. Yeah, the Chiefs
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: have a couple of outstanding linemen and the other two stink.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: And what's their point production this year? I don't know.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: They're notine and oh I know, but they're not you know,
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: come on, be honest.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: Now, I'm just telling you they're holding them back.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: No, but their defense is really.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: What is holding them back? Nothing offensively, nothing nothing, not
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: the fact that they're all out.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: No, but they're nine and I how's Rashi.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: Rice playing, Ha's Isaiah Pacheco playing.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but I'm just saying they're white productions down.
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: That's why I'm telling you why because their skill position
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: guys aren't playing.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: Okay, But I'm I'm saying that I'd rather have five
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: good guys than one or two great and then the
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: rest stink.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: No, that's fine. Yeah, I'm just telling you that the
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: best team in football has three really good linemen on
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: the inside and two absolutely.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Terrible times and the greatest player in the game.
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: Correct, Okay, so I'll take the greatest player in the game.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: But that's how the Patriots, I know, but you can't
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: count on.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: But that's how the Patriots did it for twenty I
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: like that, but I'm not assuming that. I'm not like
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: Mike Rousseau like that.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: But that's not fair, and I know it's not fair,
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: but that's fair. I think even I can't be I know,
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: but I think even during the Dynasty there were times
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: where the NFR line wasn't that great.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. I don't need to have with you.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: I don't need to have.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: An elite the greatest player in the game. I don't
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: need an elite line, but I need a good line.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: I don't Oh, I just can't have them be traffic coding. Okay,
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: so then you're with me, then maybe we should.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: That's what I said. You sold me. I've said at
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: the end of the show yesterday, you really like the
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: more you talked about it, because I've sort of like, no,
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: I got to take my medicine. I'm not a big
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: line guy, but you got they got to get a
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: left tackle. And then you kept talking about it, and
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: I was like, he's not wrong. I was thinking to
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: myself the whole time, this is like the first time
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: I've ever been in an argument with you and thinking
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: to myself, I'm losing my friends beating me.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: But more more importantly than getting that blue Chipper is
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: having a good line coach and drafting or getting the
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: right guys. They don't have to be elite.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: You need to have a good line, but it doesn't
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: have to be elite. I totally agree with you. I
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: think Detroit is great. Listen, It's great to have Panic school.
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: He's a great tackle, and I think any team would
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: take him. I just don't think you have to have
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: that level of alignment in order to have a successful offense, right.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: You just can't have a terrible line like Cincinnati and
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: Kansas City back to back years went all the way
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: to the Super Bowl with the absolute worst offensive lines
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: in football back to back seasons. Yep, now they lost
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: in the Super Bowl. I get it, you know, Like
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: Felger would tell me where did they win? Yeah, Like, okay,
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: well he goes go and forth, kind of like Randy Moss.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: You can never win anything with Randy Moss because you know.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: But he got caught in a uh, you know, a
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: contradiction the other day because he was talking about, you know,
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: I'd rather be the Steelers because every year they're they're
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: they're in it, every year they're in it. But then
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: he makes fun of the Bruins over in the past
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: because they get to the playoffs and then they lose.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: So yeah, he likes, he likes because it whatever's the
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: anti Boston right stands right, you know, like Pittsburgh. Now,
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe this year is different for Pittsburgh.
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: Maybe Russell Wilson is playing a little bit better than
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: he has and he's putting him over the top a
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: little bit. I don't know. I haven't watched enough specifically.
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: I wasn't overly impressed with Wilson's first start against the Jets.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: But maybe he's produced.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: Maybe he's done. Maybe he's doing better than I what
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: I saw last year, and maybe he's the missing ingredient.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: But Pittsburgh the last three or four years, you can
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: take that. I have no interest in that. Like being
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: a middling team that finds a way because they're well
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: coached to win enough to squeak in the playoffs and
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: get you know, bounced out in the first round. Like
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: I don't need that. Yeah every year. Now, I'm not
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: telling you, like right now, I take that in a heartbeat.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: You want to tell me that the path is there
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: for the Patriots and all of a sudden they go
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: five and two down the stretch and squeak into the
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: playoffs somehow take eight and I'd take that.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: But eventually you got to get over the hump.
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: But I don't want that four years in a row,
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: and that's where Pittsburgh has been.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But but like you said with Russell speaking of mediocrity,
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: whoa but but.
• 36:44
  Speaker 10: Players friendly to none of them look like Derek Henry. Hey, Mike,
• 36:49
  Speaker 10: what was it like in the locker room?
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: What was it like in the.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: Locker All right, Mike, As you can see, we've already
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: talked a lot, so we'll give the floor to you.
• 37:04
  Speaker 9: Oh, thank you. Uh, No, very busy day today.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: Busy.
• 37:07
  Speaker 9: Yeah, there were a lot of guys, a lot of
• 37:09
  Speaker 9: guys talking. It's pretty good. We heard from Uh. Kind
• 37:13
  Speaker 9: of impressed by him. He just like I know, we
• 37:15
  Speaker 9: talked about does this guy want to come here. I mean,
• 37:17
  Speaker 9: Mike Reese asked him directly, like, you.
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: Know, you're going from a team that was winning a
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: lot to a team that isn't Uh. He doesn't seem
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: to care. He just seems like he's in. He's happy
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: to be here. I would put my SFG serious football
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: guy Monitor Moniker on him, like he just he seems
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: like he's all business.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: When you say you're impressed, I thought you might say
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: in a Derek Henry.
• 37:37
  Speaker 9: No no, no, no, no, no, come on, that's that's ridiculous.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: Imagine if we had a guy in the.
• 37:41
  Speaker 9: Lockdown it was a former Raven all right, but yeah,
• 37:44
  Speaker 9: at the.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: Same time Mike would camp out.
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: Uh but no, just you know, he just seems no nonsense,
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: veteran kind of guy gets it.
• 37:51
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 37:52
  Speaker 9: The question was, were you surprised at all?
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: He's like, no, this is the NFL, like so good
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: responses quick, you know, direct. It was kind of the
• 37:58
  Speaker 6: vibe I got from him. So maybe write a little
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: bit about him today. Her from Joe Cardona talked about
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: the Notre Dame Navy game coming up in two years,
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: so he's excited for that. A little bit about Veterans
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: Day July Tavia, who was dubbed father of the Year already.
• 38:12
  Speaker 6: I'm like, that's been a father for like a week.
• 38:14
  Speaker 6: I'm like, that's like us maybe take that a little personally,
• 38:16
  Speaker 6: but huge week for him. He was just still seemed
• 38:19
  Speaker 6: like he was kind of spinning, as any parent knows, like.
• 38:22
  Speaker 9: Those early days are a little rough air when you
• 38:24
  Speaker 9: got the baby. Not a lot of sleep. Uh, still
• 38:26
  Speaker 9: catching up hides Joey slides a new dad as well,
• 38:31
  Speaker 9: So a couple of new babies there.
• 38:32
  Speaker 11: Uh.
• 38:32
  Speaker 6: Jonathan Jones talking a little bit as well, just as
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: you know, breaking down the locker room at the end,
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: asked a little bit about that playing the safety.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: Role a little bit.
• 38:43
  Speaker 9: Yeah, and he had to.
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: He had a good little tidbit about that, which is
• 38:46
  Speaker 6: what the the first time they had him do what
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: he said was in the Super Bowl against the Rams.
• 38:50
  Speaker 9: It was kind of interesting. So he brought that up.
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: And then there was one more guy, oh, Jalen Hawkins
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: as well, so another uh you know, another one of
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: the defensive guys. And I think they're all echoing the
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: theme for Jira Meo this week, which is we got
• 39:04
  Speaker 6: to try to stack two games together. Uh, two wins together.
• 39:07
  Speaker 6: I think the quote that that Jalen Hawkins was using
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: is that old keys don't work on new doors, so
• 39:12
  Speaker 6: we have to find the new keys to open the
• 39:13
  Speaker 6: new doors.
• 39:15
  Speaker 9: I think was the what they're using. That's a little tidbit.
• 39:17
  Speaker 6: But yeah, a bunch of guys talking. I think I
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: mentioned Pop Douglas too was the last one that that
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: closed it out.
• 39:23
  Speaker 9: So good group good, a cross section.
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: Of no not yet they they did seem a little
• 39:29
  Speaker 6: bit uh bundled up, I would say, because it is
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: a little chili out there today. But but now nobody
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: seemed too worse for it. Seemed like Jalen Hawkins was
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: a little maybe a little under the weather though, So
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: maybe that's something to to watch with the locker room
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: hawk that come on, hawk, get healthy guy.
• 39:44
  Speaker 9: But yeah, no, I think and Goway was the biggest,
• 39:47
  Speaker 9: you know, made the biggest impression on me obvious just
• 39:49
  Speaker 9: being a new guy.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: And you know, you think he has a chance to
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: play this week.
• 39:52
  Speaker 7: I do.
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: I mean I think with Dietrick Wise, you know we
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: usually hear from Tetrick.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: Wise on these days.
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: He heard his ankle, you know, we said after the
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: game he was okay, I saw Reese kind of speculating
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: on Twitter a little bit that maybe there's.
• 40:05
  Speaker 9: Something up with him.
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: So, I mean that's what in goakway does I know,
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: you know, known as a pass rusher, but he's a
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: defensive end like like you know, like wise is so
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: I could easily see him. They might have to throw him,
• 40:16
  Speaker 6: you know, right in the fire, which wouldn't be a
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: bad I don't know why not, you know, throw him
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: in there, see what he's got.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: So yeah, you have him as well use it. Sure.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Now I know it was about him, you know
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: personal who was listed as why he was out last week?
• 40:30
  Speaker 9: Who was was Ina?
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: So it wasn't like an injury or anything like that.
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, he also practices during the week. I
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: would expect him to be up on it as they
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: say he should be up.
• 40:41
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 40:41
  Speaker 9: One other buzzword was was all three downs?
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: He said, you know, just that was something that what
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: did the coaches talked to you about come in make
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: an impact on all three downs?
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: So he's got to play all three downs. Like back
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: to the we talk about. You know, Fred's been talking
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: about like so many guys thrust into roles that they
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: probably didn't envision you know Jeremiah Farms playing so well
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: on Sunday.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: And yeah, you know del Pettis tough times.
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: Del Pettis another one had us.
• 41:07
  Speaker 9: Yeah, so no good day.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: It was active.
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: I mean, it just feels like I got a lot
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: of guys, a lot of guys talked, and a.
• 41:13
  Speaker 9: Little bit just feels a little bit more juice to
• 41:15
  Speaker 9: the team.
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: I mean, we spent a bunch of weeks back to
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: back after losses and it's kind of the same thing.
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: And I think everybody was sick of being on that treadmill.
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: So it's it's nice to just change it up a
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: little bit and see a team with, you know, a
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: little confidence, a little bit more belief in themselves and
• 41:27
  Speaker 6: now trying to get another I heard.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: You on your appearance on one of Paul's shows this morning.
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I like how I did hear.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: I like how Fred says that, you know, we have
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: a mind because he's a friend of Hearty.
• 41:39
  Speaker 9: Said that this is his friend, Like.
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: Right, he doesn't know anything, no, but he was interacting
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: with you a little bit more this week than here.
• 41:50
  Speaker 9: I feel like I'm making connections with Fred. Well, yeah,
• 41:54
  Speaker 9: I don't know. I mean, he's I think I mean,
• 41:56
  Speaker 9: you guys know me.
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: I I'm always ready to joke and have a sense
• 41:59
  Speaker 6: of humor about stuff.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: And you know.
• 42:00
  Speaker 9: He just he seems like he has like great rants
• 42:03
  Speaker 9: and you know, so I don't know.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: I likes movies, so you know the fact that you
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: were in Hollywood, and.
• 42:07
  Speaker 6: I haven't impressed him with that yet, I don't think,
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: but I'm sure Hardy told him.
• 42:11
  Speaker 9: But yeah, it's always every time I go on there,
• 42:13
  Speaker 9: do we do a zoom call? I use the zoom audio.
• 42:16
  Speaker 9: I'm not I'm not.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: They don't want this on twit.
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: No, they don't want to see how physically I know
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: you don't.
• 42:22
  Speaker 9: I don't. I mean they're lost, right.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: They on YouTube?
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: I don't know because I think are yeah, yeah, because
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: he always says YouTube.
• 42:30
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it always calls it YouTube. It's good see fighting,
• 42:33
  Speaker 9: funny stuff. But no, I appreciate those guys having me on.
• 42:36
  Speaker 9: It's a it's always a little stressful though, like you
• 42:38
  Speaker 9: wake up and you're like, I gotta be on the radio.
• 42:39
  Speaker 9: What's twenty minutes.
• 42:40
  Speaker 7: I gotta like.
• 42:41
  Speaker 9: Find the energy, you know.
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: But that was good.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: It's good, like those guys good stuff.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a good way to kick off my commute,
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: Well quick on qick on the radio, and here we
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: go and as soon as like right at the very
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: beginning today, Usually it's like in the middle, I'm like, hey,
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: I know that.
• 42:56
  Speaker 9: Do you find it funny though, Paul?
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: When you do, like when you go, I know you're
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: going felder Mass later today. But sometimes I feel like
• 43:00
  Speaker 6: I'm like, crap, I'm playing the hits off a PU
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: right now. Like I know, it's like I've already workshopped
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: this take, you know, like you just kind of.
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: Go to what you've already knew things you're gonna come
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: up with number one. I always find it funny that,
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: you know, like Andy and I used to joke around
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: and all, you know, did you happen to hear me say?
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: And we would always say no, what I listen to
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: you every day. I don't need to hear what you like.
• 43:24
  Speaker 6: I know what you just So that's because I know
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: you guys have commutes, So I'm always when I go on,
• 43:28
  Speaker 6: I'm always assuming you guys are tuning in, and I'm
• 43:30
  Speaker 6: just imagining you guys being like.
• 43:31
  Speaker 9: Oh, yeah, dude, that's what you said. Yes, get some
• 43:34
  Speaker 9: new material.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: It's true, it's a new audience. Really there is some crossover,
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: but most of the people listening did not listen to.
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: Us no particular week. And I know that, you know,
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: people tease us, like, you know, the whole Sunshine dot
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: Com thing, But in this particular week it is a
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: little bit easier to do it because you're talking about
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: more things that went well than have typically been the
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: case this year. So that's one of them, you know.
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: And you know, I know, I really misspoke. He played
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: two plays in the first half, right, I know, I lied.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: I was called out on my lives according to somebody
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: on Twitter.
• 44:11
  Speaker 9: It was like it was five snaps. I just don't
• 44:13
  Speaker 9: care about it.
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: I just I still don't. But I mean, fairest far
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: I lied, didn't recall the first two plays. But you
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: don't have to go out of your way to sort
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: of manufacture Hey, you know, it was really good, like
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: you know, the the blocking on the on the punt,
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: on the punt return, you know, like, no, like there
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: were a lot of things that were really good in
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: the game. You know, they get nine sacks, they shut
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: down DeAndre Swift. You talking about the secondary being really tight,
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: the you know, Joey slide making four field goals in
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: tough conditions, you know, the offense showing some wrinkles, the
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: goal line play. To Jalen, you don't have to make
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: any of that up. It makes it a lot easier
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: for us to sort of talk on these shows.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: Paul and I were talking before you got here about
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: Mayo's press conference today. He was mentioning that a VP
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: deserves a lot of credit for the development so far
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: of Drake may I don't know if you heard any
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: of that you had a reaction to it was there next.
• 45:10
  Speaker 9: To Paul, No. I think.
• 45:12
  Speaker 6: I mean, look, I think nobody's caught more criticism than
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: a VP, maybe, Like I mean, the hiring of him,
• 45:18
  Speaker 6: the whole thing. I mean we I mean we we
• 45:20
  Speaker 6: had it here on our show for for six months,
• 45:22
  Speaker 6: you know, figuring out tight pants guy or what kind.
• 45:25
  Speaker 9: Offense it is.
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: So I just think, like the bottom line for me
• 45:28
  Speaker 6: is that the players really seem to like him. I mean,
• 45:30
  Speaker 6: you saw Hunter Henry kind of light up a little
• 45:32
  Speaker 6: bit talking about.
• 45:33
  Speaker 9: Him as well.
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: So I don't know, it's just it's so hard, Like
• 45:37
  Speaker 6: he's a really experienced guy. He's played in the NFL,
• 45:39
  Speaker 6: and I think that's worth a lot to the players
• 45:42
  Speaker 6: and you know, look, if Drake, I think going back
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: to like you know what we kind of got into yesterday, Like,
• 45:46
  Speaker 6: if Drake continues to improve and the mistakes start to
• 45:48
  Speaker 6: come down, and then you really get a sense of
• 45:51
  Speaker 6: what this offense is because I feel like over these
• 45:53
  Speaker 6: first whatever it is, like eleven weeks, you've been seeing
• 45:56
  Speaker 6: little pieces of it. But even going back to the
• 45:59
  Speaker 6: locker room, just hearing from these guys talking about the
• 46:01
  Speaker 6: Rams offense, which kind of similar thing Jonathan Jones saying
• 46:04
  Speaker 6: it all starts with the run. It all starts with
• 46:06
  Speaker 6: the run for these guys. If they get running on you,
• 46:09
  Speaker 6: it's going to open up their whole offense. And the
• 46:11
  Speaker 6: Patriots haven't been able to run. And I think it's
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: a similar thing with their offense, where you know, if
• 46:16
  Speaker 6: they can get a game where they put it all together,
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: maybe you'll actually get to see what Alex van Pelt
• 46:21
  Speaker 6: in this offense is capable of. And there's no guarantee
• 46:23
  Speaker 6: that it happens. I mean there's seven games left, but
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: I think that's what they're they're working towards. And I
• 46:28
  Speaker 6: think if they do do that and you see Drake
• 46:29
  Speaker 6: cut down on the mistakes, and you start to see
• 46:32
  Speaker 6: some of the plays, like Paul says, where that was
• 46:34
  Speaker 6: Matrios play that was a real play, that wasn't really
• 46:36
  Speaker 6: you know, and all of a sudden, it's like we
• 46:37
  Speaker 6: had a bunch of those today.
• 46:39
  Speaker 9: I think that's when people really start to you know,
• 46:40
  Speaker 9: believe me.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: And that's as much, like I said earlier, as much
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: as I love watching him run around and everything, I
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: do want to see more plays on schedule the way
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: they were drawn up.
• 46:52
  Speaker 12: You know.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: Obviously the offensive line has a lot to do with that,
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: but that's the next step I think for him, we
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: need to see that, and of course the turnovers. Let's
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: eliminate the mistakes. But seeing that offense run as it's drawn.
• 47:06
  Speaker 9: Up, absolutely absolutely.
• 47:08
  Speaker 6: I mean you've seen a little, like I said, peaks
• 47:11
  Speaker 6: in here and there, you know, like you've seen it done,
• 47:17
  Speaker 6: see a bunch, you know, maybe at the end of
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: the year we get a full game of them, and
• 47:19
  Speaker 6: it's like, oh my god, this is like it's all
• 47:21
  Speaker 6: working together, you know, as Jonathan Jones described the rams
• 47:25
  Speaker 6: off les of you know, all the bootlegs and all
• 47:27
  Speaker 6: the play actions and the run and the linebackers are
• 47:29
  Speaker 6: over committing and you know, it just opens.
• 47:31
  Speaker 9: Up that that whole playbook. So we'll see if the
• 47:33
  Speaker 9: Patriots are able to get to that point.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: Eight five to five past five hundred is the eight
• 47:37
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• 47:40
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• 47:44
  Speaker 3: Melvin in Tennessee what's up Melvin.
• 47:47
  Speaker 7: Tyry is going on?
• 47:48
  Speaker 13: Hey, Melvin, Right, it's funny that we're talking about. See
• 47:54
  Speaker 13: what we're playing the rams this. I talked about this
• 47:56
  Speaker 13: not too long ago with Rare, but I think, like
• 47:58
  Speaker 13: Tomrio Douglas is probably about on the same level different players,
• 48:02
  Speaker 13: though I'm sure two to hour averages more yards catch,
• 48:07
  Speaker 13: but I think they're about on the same level, but
• 48:10
  Speaker 13: as far as how good they are. But two to
• 48:13
  Speaker 13: hour looks so much better when he's really at that
• 48:16
  Speaker 13: three row and he hasn't one and two in front
• 48:19
  Speaker 13: of him. So we got this kind of exposure with
• 48:21
  Speaker 13: Mario Douglas where he's you know, been able to see
• 48:24
  Speaker 13: a lot, probably you know, more courage and being probably
• 48:28
  Speaker 13: a number one in tuish even though he's probably really
• 48:31
  Speaker 13: not that good. So as soon as we get we
• 48:33
  Speaker 13: do need two receivers, because it'll be great once to
• 48:36
  Speaker 13: get those two receivers, we can knot come back down
• 48:39
  Speaker 13: and hopefully Drake and him and this year or whatever
• 48:43
  Speaker 13: and been able to establish to get him the same
• 48:45
  Speaker 13: page so when we need him, he'll be able to
• 48:47
  Speaker 13: come through for us, kind of be a bankie or
• 48:49
  Speaker 13: a good receiver'll have something with but just he's you know,
• 48:53
  Speaker 13: he's just had a position right now or maybe a
• 48:55
  Speaker 13: little bit out of his role, kind of similar to
• 48:57
  Speaker 13: what we had with Jacobe. He kind of found his role,
• 49:02
  Speaker 13: but he was probably a little bit out of his place.
• 49:04
  Speaker 13: But I hope that you know, it's once we get
• 49:06
  Speaker 13: to that stage, we kind of have something like Myers
• 49:09
  Speaker 13: who left before. But I hope that you know that
• 49:13
  Speaker 13: we'll be able to establish something by the time he
• 49:15
  Speaker 13: gets a good one and two in front of him,
• 49:17
  Speaker 13: kind of like Boyd was but Cincinnati a little bit
• 49:20
  Speaker 13: still those same receivers, but good exposure, good experience right now.
• 49:24
  Speaker 13: But we need us keep in front of him so
• 49:26
  Speaker 13: that he can go back in his proper road. But
• 49:29
  Speaker 13: that's what I got.
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: I would agree.
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: Would you guys be into not coming back as a one,
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: maybe not even as a two. But bringing back to
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: Kobe Myers next year, No, no, really, why not?
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: Because I think they need better.
• 49:44
  Speaker 9: I want speed, I have enough three four fives.
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: Yea, I need a guy that impacts.
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: But you still get the other guys.
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: Oh okay, and then so who goes?
• 49:54
  Speaker 7: You like him?
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: So in other words, he replaces Booty Douglas. Yeah, I'm
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: fine with that. I mean I would. I don't think
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: you need to do that. I think you just hold
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: onto Booty and Douglas. You could get rid of Baker, sure,
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: but like I just feel like you need a couple
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: of dynamic receivers. Like well, with with the Ram.
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: You're not thinking strategically. You're not thinking strategically. If we
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: bring back Myers, we get another listener and his father.
• 50:21
  Speaker 9: Oh that's true, growing for one for.
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: The I like Jakobe Myers from the first day we
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: saw him and as an undrafted rookie, you know, I
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: remember Megan O'Brien was like, he's gonna end up leading
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: the team and like receiving, and we were like she
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: was right, Like we liked him from the start, Like
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: how you know, he just kept showing up and making plays,
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: and I think he continued to do that until they
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: decided that you know, it was a million too much
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: for them, and he went to the Raiders.
• 50:52
  Speaker 9: Well, I would hope that after catch, Paul, we should
• 50:58
  Speaker 9: we deserve.
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: The deserved a per reception. But one of them was
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: after the catch, so it became better.
• 51:04
  Speaker 9: We deserve not to live that one.
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: That's a great hill that I died on that I
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: was right. Yeah, so many others that I'm like Monk Cooks.
• 51:11
  Speaker 6: But no, I I just would hope that Jalen Polk
• 51:14
  Speaker 6: could develop into that. And maybe that's too far gone
• 51:16
  Speaker 6: at this point, but.
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: I think can be a Tyler Boyd kind of guy,
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: like a physical third down receiver who moves the chains,
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: doesn't flash. You know, he's not gonna he's not gonna
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: get you like one hundred and fifty yards when he
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: has a great game, but he might get you seventy
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: for seventy four yards and resulting resulting in three or
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: four conversions. Yeah, he can be that kind of guy.
• 51:39
  Speaker 9: That's that's where I'm ant.
• 51:40
  Speaker 6: I just I think my philosophy though, is speed like
• 51:43
  Speaker 6: just and not. He ran at the fort the combat
• 51:47
  Speaker 6: like an electric kind of guy, and he doesn't have
• 51:50
  Speaker 6: to be big.
• 51:50
  Speaker 9: I just you know, but.
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: I'd like it to be like not just like Taekwon
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: Thornton's like speed, but you know, yeah.
• 51:58
  Speaker 9: I didn't like that Tyreek Hill that's a millionaire.
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: Gets someone like in aj Brown, you know, or Jamar
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: Chase that like. And I'm not talking about that talent obviously,
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: the talent levels through the willset justin know those guys,
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: But I mean a guy big enough to handle that
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: load and be fast enough to get the defense on
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: its heels, you know. Those kinds of players, they they
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: I think they badly need.
• 52:21
  Speaker 6: That's why when we talk about Travis Hunter, it's like
• 52:24
  Speaker 6: I can't dismiss him because that's the kind of athlete
• 52:27
  Speaker 6: that you want, even if he's gonna play defense, you know.
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I think it's gonna be. Really I think
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: this is one of the most interesting draft guys coming
• 52:35
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• 52:39
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• 52:42
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  Speaker 8: Thank A lot of you said from this week hand
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  Speaker 8: of sets of urgency to drug message, how do you
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  Speaker 8: take that? And we kind of talked about kind of
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  Speaker 8: what you said to your offense after practice one one.
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  Speaker 4: Day last week. What kind of things go through your mind?
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  Speaker 8: Is to try to get back to back wins for
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  Speaker 8: the first time.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's build on it from last week.
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  Speaker 16: I think, you know, a big winning in Chicago and
• 55:46
  Speaker 16: a you know, way away game and in a big
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  Speaker 16: time atmosphere. Remember the time I was yelling set Hut
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  Speaker 16: for the snap a few times on fourth down before
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  Speaker 16: I called the time out and they couldn't hear me. So,
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  Speaker 16: you know, a big win from there, and just build
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  Speaker 16: on it, like I said, Like I said, since urgency,
• 56:00
  Speaker 16: what what coast Mayo's appreciing. I think it starts with
• 56:03
  Speaker 16: cleaning up, you know from from the game Sunday. Clean
• 56:05
  Speaker 16: up some little things that I think we could have
• 56:07
  Speaker 16: ended up being a bigger, bigger margin victory for us,
• 56:09
  Speaker 16: you know, especially offensively. Defense did about all they could
• 56:12
  Speaker 16: scoring in the red zone, and obviously my turnover. Gotta
• 56:16
  Speaker 16: just keep on, you know, these little things that can
• 56:18
  Speaker 16: kind of help build the complementary football that Coach Mayo's
• 56:22
  Speaker 16: preaching about. So I think, you know, got another chance
• 56:24
  Speaker 16: here at home, and l has come off a short week,
• 56:26
  Speaker 16: so I gotta he'll prepare for them, and they're good
• 56:28
  Speaker 16: upfront on defense, so I'm preparing for them.
• 56:30
  Speaker 7: How important is I'm spent?
• 56:32
  Speaker 14: Have Alex Beth all that to you this season?
• 56:36
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's been huge.
• 56:36
  Speaker 16: I think he's just a confidence booster for a quarterback,
• 56:38
  Speaker 16: you know's a you love playing for the office quarter
• 56:41
  Speaker 16: like a v P. You know, he's he's positive and
• 56:43
  Speaker 16: also but at the same time, we'll coach you hard.
• 56:44
  Speaker 7: You know, he's done it.
• 56:44
  Speaker 16: He's played quarterback, played quarterback in this league and at
• 56:47
  Speaker 16: a high level. So he knows what's you know, what
• 56:49
  Speaker 16: needs to be done and in the task he knows
• 56:51
  Speaker 16: the tall task as well, which is pretty you know,
• 56:54
  Speaker 16: him and TC both kind of have the quarterback minds
• 56:56
  Speaker 16: and coach McAdoo, So those those three are I know
• 57:00
  Speaker 16: it's like how hard it is to play quarterback in
• 57:01
  Speaker 16: this league and give a lot of leeway, but at
• 57:03
  Speaker 16: the same time, you know what's you needs to be done. Yeah,
• 57:12
  Speaker 16: I think I think I'm I'm working towards that. I
• 57:14
  Speaker 16: think that's more of a perfective thing. I wouldn't say,
• 57:16
  Speaker 16: you know me, I'm just trying to build on every day.
• 57:18
  Speaker 16: I think, you know, it's more of a thing for
• 57:20
  Speaker 16: the outside crowd to say. I think I'll come a
• 57:22
  Speaker 16: long way within the system of learning the system, knowing
• 57:24
  Speaker 16: what to do, knowing where guys line up, getting run
• 57:27
  Speaker 16: in and out of run checks and and past things.
• 57:30
  Speaker 16: So I think, but I wouldn't say, better to say
• 57:32
  Speaker 16: more comfortable. I think, you know, a lot of stuff
• 57:34
  Speaker 16: is coming to tie together. You know, I think still
• 57:37
  Speaker 16: a lot of the same players, and you know, still
• 57:39
  Speaker 16: the same player and the same players that you have
• 57:40
  Speaker 16: made in college making today. So I think just building on,
• 57:43
  Speaker 16: get more comfortable in this offense and just growing as
• 57:46
  Speaker 16: a you know, A young young young adult.
• 57:51
  Speaker 11: Asked the question.
• 57:55
  Speaker 13: You were talking about.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: A d P said, like when the film comes up
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: with him in Pittsburgh.
• 58:01
  Speaker 7: Yes, cool.
• 58:01
  Speaker 16: We saw some of his guitar fakes and his play
• 58:03
  Speaker 16: action and a lot inner center and he.
• 58:05
  Speaker 7: Threw it well so we could throw the football.
• 58:07
  Speaker 16: So it's it's cool seeing he doesn't throw very much
• 58:09
  Speaker 16: anymore that he's like throwing that one time, you know,
• 58:11
  Speaker 16: this season, but seeing him you know, do some of
• 58:13
  Speaker 16: the same actions or you know, throwing the same concepts,
• 58:16
  Speaker 16: it's pretty cool. And it's pretty neat, you know, sitting
• 58:18
  Speaker 16: out there on some old you know, granny film, so.
• 58:22
  Speaker 15: Drink with the support, but like Kobe potential to cover
• 58:25
  Speaker 15: as the starter and wasn't at all difficult to find
• 58:27
  Speaker 15: when to speak up as a leader, knowing he's still.
• 58:30
  Speaker 7: A captain and so stepping out. Yeah, that's a good question,
• 58:32
  Speaker 7: you know.
• 58:32
  Speaker 16: I think Jacobe is still, you know, a big time
• 58:34
  Speaker 16: leader on this football team, you know, especially he's in
• 58:36
  Speaker 16: my ear and I don't know if you'll see him
• 58:38
  Speaker 16: on the sidelines, but it's basically like he's he's playing
• 58:40
  Speaker 16: the game over there. He's yelling and yelling at me,
• 58:42
  Speaker 16: you owing up the rest on the sideline. So he's
• 58:44
  Speaker 16: very animated and that's his personality. I think everybody respects
• 58:46
  Speaker 16: him on this football team, has a lot of respect
• 58:49
  Speaker 16: and see what he did in the Jets game. I
• 58:50
  Speaker 16: think that even just you know, raised the ball of
• 58:52
  Speaker 16: him coming in after you know, me being the starter
• 58:54
  Speaker 16: and him coming in and getting a big time win
• 58:56
  Speaker 16: at home. I think those guys just respect him. And
• 58:58
  Speaker 16: he's been, uh, he's been a lot to me of
• 59:00
  Speaker 16: some mentor and and just trying to learn everything I can.
• 59:04
  Speaker 16: He's probably tired of me asking questions, but I think
• 59:06
  Speaker 16: he enjoys and we enjoy, you know, being the same
• 59:08
  Speaker 16: room together.
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: The virtual reality headsets, we're a bit of a storyline
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: this summer.
• 59:12
  Speaker 9: Was curious how much did those help you before you
• 59:14
  Speaker 9: actually got to play?
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: Do you still use them now that you're actually out
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: on the feet.
• 59:17
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 59:18
  Speaker 16: They give just some of the base concepts and some
• 59:20
  Speaker 16: of the concepts of carrying weekend week out, a little
• 59:22
  Speaker 16: bit of the two minute stuff we have in some
• 59:24
  Speaker 16: of the the VR. But the VRS, you know, been
• 59:26
  Speaker 16: a nice edition. Thankful to the Pages of Regulation for
• 59:29
  Speaker 16: forgetting that and using that. And I think it's some
• 59:32
  Speaker 16: you know, every week just going back to the base
• 59:33
  Speaker 16: stuff and sometimes we can throw in you know, the
• 59:35
  Speaker 16: different team or the stadium we're playing in and get
• 59:37
  Speaker 16: different looks.
• 59:38
  Speaker 7: So it's pretty cool. He learned about yourself over the past,
• 59:42
  Speaker 7: the five starts that.
• 59:43
  Speaker 16: You learn about myself, I think just battling back from
• 59:50
  Speaker 16: university University and times in the game and times in
• 59:53
  Speaker 16: this season. You know, starting the season obviously you plan
• 59:56
  Speaker 16: on you wanting to be the starter and handle University,
• 59:59
  Speaker 16: you know, throughout the locker room or throughout, uh, just
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 16: being on the football team and then the anniversity when
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 16: I'm you're actually in there playing, So just channeling times,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 16: you know, difficult times and and bouncing back and no
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 16: one at this position that you know, these guys look
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 16: to me and and know that you know, kind of
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 16: get a you know, keep a keep a up kind
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 16: of upbeat mindset and up your personality because these guys
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 16: you'll follow me and listen to me, and you'll respect me.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 8: I know you mentioned you know as a football fan,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 8: you know, getting the face guys like Aaron Rodgers.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 5: This week he gets to face Matthew Stafford.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 16: What is uh is he somebody you followed as a.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 7: Kid, and what is it against? Yeah, it is you
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 7: know Matt Stafford.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 16: I think you know back in the days watching lines,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 16: if you know, always saw him playing on Thanksgiving and
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 16: seeing him play is is pretty cool with Thanksgiving coming up.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 16: So anytime you play a Super Bowl winning quarterback and
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 16: you know, guy in this the league has done a long.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 7: Time and play at a high level, it's cool to watch.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 16: I think I'll definitely take a moment and always try
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 16: to watch them up and see what they do or
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 16: see how he's throwing it. I think that's kind of
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 16: the coolest thing that I try to do. And other
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 16: than that, just hopefully get a chance to meet him
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 16: and you know, respect his game and you hope that
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 16: you get a chance to come out with a win
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 16: against you big time quarterback like that.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 7: It's always a pretty cool feeling.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 10: Sure, sliding and ask you like a plant out of
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 10: the sas you know, he joked that there might be.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: A sliding period in practice today.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 5: Has that been conveyed you often, like the.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: Coaching sap in terms just working on sliding and things
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: like that.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 16: Yeah, I wouldn't say working on you know, I play
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 16: baseball growing up, and you know if I've slid, and
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 16: one time slid against the Jets, you know got hit
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 16: in the head.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 7: So I think there's times and places for it.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 16: I think I definitely do a good better job of
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 16: getting down taking care of my body, and and I
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 16: know that I took one and you know the Bears
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 16: game that was that was done with the kind of
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 16: third quarter, So you know, I'm mindful of it, and
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 16: the coaches are doing good job.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 7: TC does guys job emphasizing it.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 16: So I think it's uh, you know, it's kind of
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 16: different when you're between the lines and you're trying to
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 16: show your competitive side, so you.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: Can show a lot of frustration. I guess i'd say
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: you feel is not letting your emotions because you were
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: not showing emotions something it comes naturally or is that
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: something new for are talking about?
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 16: Yeah, things come naturally, you know. Growing up, I think
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 16: I was always kind of you know, even keel mindset.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 16: And at the same time, I think, you know, showing
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 16: frustration at times can be good, can be good for
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 16: the offense, and can kind of fire those guys up,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 16: So kind of mixing and kind of feeling that out
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 16: of you know, when I could use the expressity in practice,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 16: I think getting frustrated and and showing hey, you know,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 16: we pick it up is a is sometimes can be good.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 16: So I think you're just bouncing that aspect of it
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 16: and at the same time, you know, round those guys
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 16: of pumping them up, and that's everybody you know feels
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 16: good when you get pumped up.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 6: So's lying people have to talk about having a short
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 6: memory of being fans specials from the games.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 13: If you agree and you saw the advantage to keep
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 13: the number.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 16: Short, yeah, short memory, that's it, you know. I think
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 16: it's one of the biggest things for playing quarterback in
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 16: this league. I think you see you know this past Sunday.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 16: You know Jared Goff, I think you know his game,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 16: you just turnovers and what he does to come back
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 16: and leave that football team to win. I think there's
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 16: so many times throughout the season you see you know,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 16: quarterbacks especially you know at this level that are you
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 16: handle a university.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 7: And you know, it's tough. It's tough.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 16: It's a tough feeling going out there after throwing an
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 16: interception and dragging back out there, you know, throwing it again.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 16: So I think it's something that it's kind of you know,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 16: brushed under the rug when you're you're facing you know,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 16: good defense and you go out there and make a
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 16: bad play and have to run back out there and
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 16: facing those same guys and have to throw it again.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 16: So I think it's definitely having a short memory, like
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 16: you said, and just trusting those guys around you. I
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 16: think our team does a good job and especially the
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 16: veterans and Jakobe has been great on the sideline with
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 16: you know plays, and I think just bouncing back and
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 16: seeing how you bounce back. The team released the uh
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 16: miked up piece few from the game the other day,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 16: and a significant percentage of it was you basically pumping
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 16: up teammates encouraging them during the game.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: Why is that important for you to sort of take
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: time during during game day.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 7: To make sure that you're doing.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 13: That for your teammates.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 16: Yeah, I think, you know, pregames, kind of checking those
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 16: chick in on the guys, see how they're feeling. I
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 16: think I think I was saying a lot of the
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 16: same things over and over, you know, and the miked
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 16: up so I kind of keep it simple and and
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 16: don't try to, you know, bug me by too much
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 16: because everybody's kind of got their own thing on game day.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 16: But uh, yeah, I think pumping them up, like I said,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 16: you know, everybody feels feels good when you say, hey,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 16: you know, let's go or hey, nice play, or hey,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 16: great job up front. I think little things like that
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 16: can go a long way. And being the leader on
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 16: the offense and and pumping those guys up to keep.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 7: With your with your alignement. Again, they caught you in
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 7: the locker group saying, let's go get something to eat tomorrow.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 16: G yeah when somebody, uh we got somebody, We'll say Wednesday,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 16: we have some needy Monday, so.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 7: Uh yeah, we went somewhere. Some are good, thank you.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: And now great moments in.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: History. Steve wants to know why Eric, do you hate emailers?
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: Does he hate everybody?
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 6: He's very hate bad emailers.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 9: See it doesn't like the weather. See it's raining, raining
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 9: makes ericcause that boy.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: I have to admit the fact that I had to
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: put jeans on this morning really got me mad. It's
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: like August and I'm.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 9: Wearing long pants staring at the khaki shorts of sad
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 9: not today.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: Good thing. I wo nied too, it was cold. And
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: Paul wears mom jeans by the way, well, my jeans.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: Are like cool, they're so old, yeah.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: And there's so worn acid washed rip jeans. They're not
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: they're not even acid washed. They just look at they're
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: like you don't have like the.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: Belot shut up.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 9: I thought he was gonna wear like tight tape.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: That would be I don't do. I don't do the
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: euro jeans for obvious reasons.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: That's another great moment. All right back here Patriots on
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  Speaker 4: You haven't made that mistake very long.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: No, I haven't.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: But you're a bully. You you mean to me on
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 4: that's one of my attire. Quite often I do, and
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: usually just this shirt, well at least, but now it's
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: like I'm going back here, Paul was mom jeans and
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: bell bottoms.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, they're old fashion jean.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 4: You mean you get mean well that you were old
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 4: fashioned about these?
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: Well those are better, but back then you were wearing
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: jeans that were like twenty years old.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: That that's probably gonna be on tomorrow. Like I have
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: like four or five pairs of jeans. I rotate them
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: every day, and you're like your weekend comes out with.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: You're a media personality, Poul, you need to like I get.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: Rid of the hood in the media or a person get.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: Rid of the hoods and you know, wear like grown
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: up clothes.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: You see, he's mean, he's a bully.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 6: I know, well he he's like a running back. He
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 6: sees the whole open up and he just goes right
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 6: before it really does.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: This is after I gave him a compliment because I
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: told him remember an argument about the offensive line late
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: in the show, and I came to the realization that
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: he was kind of right. No, I don't know. That's
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: that's the realization is that I was being a hypocrite.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 9: So your back eye, I said, no, need to draft
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 9: the tackle next year.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: I'm kind of Fred's kind of convincing me that they
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: don't mose well, I'm not.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, it's not what I'm saying.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: See now he's now, yeah, it's time for you and
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: I get on him. Never so I said to him.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: It was one of the only times that Fred and
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: I have been in an argument, and I was thinking
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: to myself, I'm losing. I'm losing this argument. He's right,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: I'm wrong.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: Well smart, He's also thinking about the arguments he's going
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: to have to have next off season, so he knew
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: that he had to come around them.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: I'm just telling you you like made very valid points
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: in that argument, and I was wrong. You did it
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: like you don't have to like, He's right, you don't
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 4: have to have an elite player, And I wasn't necessarily
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: meaning like like you had to have an elite the
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: best of the best. But you know, him talking about
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: Matt Light was like, yeah, I mean I don't think
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: Matt Light would make a difference on this team. But
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: Matt Light and you know, two really good receivers, and
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: you know, a better guard to plug in, you know,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: like a Steven Neil. You know, all of a sudden,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 4: you've upgraded four spots on your offense. Your quarterback is
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: as good as we think he is. You should have
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: a much better offense next year.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm like I was telling Paul before you
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: got here, I'd rather have five good guys, five good linemen,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: than one or two great and then the rest stink.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: Because I think five good guys on a line in
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: today's NFL equals an elite line.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I would agree with that.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: If you have good coaches, that's what. If you have
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: good coaches.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 6: That's what I think was the value of Scarnakia, where
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 6: I'm sure you guys felt like every year, no matter
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 6: who the line.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 9: I mean, maybe this is where your take.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 6: Was developed, Paul, was that every year they had Scarnekia
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 6: and they were able to just kind of make chicken
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 6: salad every.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: The Chiefs have I would say, three really good linemen
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: and two social linemen. Yea, and they're elite. Yeah, the
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: team is elite. Now the Lions have five really good linemen.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: I mean they have I mean, Penna suel is elite. Yeah,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: but they have I mean when they're healthy. I know
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 4: they've been missing some guys. I think Ragno's out right
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 4: the center, he's been hurt. But they have five pretty
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: good linemen. Yeah, but that's an elite line.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: We talk about, you know, bringing in more talent next year.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: But I think one of the most important things this
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: team is going to have to do in the off
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: season is evaluate their assistant coaches. You know, is Scott
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: Peters a good offensive line coach? I don't know. It's
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: he's never been the guy yet. You know, in his career,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: he's always been an assistant. This is the first time
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: he's been the offensive line coach. Maybe he's great, I
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: don't know, but that the evaluation of these positional coaches
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: is right up there with everything else they need to
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: do this offseason. And maybe Scott Peters is great and
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: that's though after the evaluation, they'll figure that out and
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: he'll stay on and you know, we'll get those five
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: good linemen and he'll coach him up and we'll be fine.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: But I don't know that, you know, only only they
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: really know the Elliott Wolson everybody else inside the team.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, and how much are you willing to
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 6: look at the extenuating circumstances around each like I mean,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 6: it's his first year coaching, They're gonna have some mistakes,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 6: a lot of injuries.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 6: Think they know on the inside though, while this player
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 6: we felt like have potential.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 9: And you brought it out of him or you didn't.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 6: You know, those are the things internally that they know
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 6: that we don't really get to see.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: We don't know that.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 6: We just see the overall product, which last week felt
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 6: like they were welcome, which like they had a well
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 6: coach game, so they got to continue to do that stuff.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 6: But I agree, it'll be interesting evaluation. There's so many
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 6: assistant coaches though, it's you know, maybe do they decide
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 6: too many, let's pull back a little bit, or you know,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 6: like you said, they maybe they shuffle some guys out.
• 1:10:39
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  Speaker 3: Chance is emailing from Syracuse. He says, I have two
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: questions for you guys, the first being a hypothetical. If
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: Stafford played for the Packers and Rogers played for Detroit,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: do you think Stafford would have won more less or
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: the same amount of Super Bowls that Rogers did, which
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: is one.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 4: I think you were on more.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: You think Stafford would have won more?
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: You know what I think?
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know you like Stafford.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 4: I should probably recuse myself from this conversation. I'm not
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: I'm not unbiased.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: And would Rogers have done anything one of the same
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: as Rogers playing for the Packers and so? And you
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: don't think Rogers would have elevated Detroit at that time?
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 4: I think, but I don't think he would have made
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: them consistently great. Yeah, it would have been like Stafford.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: Stafford elevated the team, he just didn't do it consistently.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: This is interesting thede.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 9: Rogers with Calvin Johnson.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: That's that's kind of Second question.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Rodgers probably would have been better. I mean,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: Rodgers is better than Stafford. I mean, as much as
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: I hate one and love the other, Rodgers is a
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 4: better player.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: Second questions for me. When Stafford asked the Lions to
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: trade him, he apparently said anywhere but the Patriots. If
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: that report is true, would you consider this a Patriots
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: revenge game?
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: So the reason for that was Matt Patricia, You know that, right, No.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: I didn't know that.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why he's out of Detroit. The whole Matt
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 4: Patricia thing is all because, of course, of course, like
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: that's the brunt of his sort of no pushback for
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 4: the Patriots.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: No, why would we want revenge on that?
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 4: No, I mean you can use it as revenge. I mean,
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 4: you use anything for revenge. I mean, god knows, Brodney
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 4: Harrison and William Ginnis made it up all the time.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, Matt Patricia is not here.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 6: But that was a I'm wait, that was twenty off
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 6: season or twenty twenty one before twenty twenty.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 4: If it was after the twenty season, right, yeah.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was right after Patricia left.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: And don't hold me to this. I might maybe I'm
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: missing some of the details. I had always gotten the
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: impression that the impetus for that thought process from Stafford
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: toward the Patriots was because Patricia was always pounding the
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: Lions with this is how you win. The Patriots do this,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 4: the Patriots do this, And it was all about well,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: he actually how much you guys suck and how much
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: the Patriots invented football. And I think it rubbed a
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: lot of people the wrong way and I think that's
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: what it's about. Yeah, I might be completely missing that, Oh,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 4: but that's what I've always That's how it was explained
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: to me. So that's how I always thought it went down.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: And yes, I think it was after the twenty season
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: is when he demanded the trade, because that twenty game
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 4: that the Patriots played the Rams, jery Goff was still
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: with the Rams that twenty four to three Thursday night game.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: Yeahpi and Fresno appreciate Fred's comments that many of the
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: show's listeners weren't PFW listeners. The poor soul's tuning in
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: now will never know the depth of depravity in heights
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: of greatness previously achieved. I think it would be fun
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: for you to put together an infographic for the newsletter,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: visualizing the history of the show, the paper, and most
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: especially the personnel over the years. You'll have to blur
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: the face of he who shall not be named. Yes,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: that's make him look like so on. But but here's
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: but here's the thing I'm gonna tell you too. While
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: we're sitting here, I want you guys contributing. I don't
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: want it to be all alex so like something like this.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: I pretty much provide all the content every week.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: Well okay, great, no, but something like this if you
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: want it too, every joke if you yeah, I know.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: But but if you wanted to, like do a timeline, Paul,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: go ahead, do that for the newsletter.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 6: I think that'd be really fun of the personnel, like
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 6: just a like a visual, right.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: Like when when was the first swear said on you know?
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 4: Yes you do, like when I know that, Like I
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 4: swore on the radio.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: I know that, Yes, that was the first time there
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: was a swear in this show.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 4: I don't think so. Oh yeah, I don't think I
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 4: was the first to swear. Well, the first F bomb
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 4: for sure, probably the loudest.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: And then the time that Fred kicked Andy off the show.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: I wasn't there. I can help you.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 4: I was at the super Bowl. I could give you
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 4: a timeline that was at the super.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 9: Bowl before the great moments first super Bowl.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 6: But it's also like a good visual of like, you know,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 6: the first show, maybe just your heads like with headphones on,
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 6: and this was PFW in progress and then you know,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 6: Andy's head pops in down the timeline and then ericson
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 6: you know, slowly show how it was made.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 9: I think that's a good idea.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: How he went from like chromagnum men to you know, yeah,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: people walking on two feet.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 6: It'd be better if we could get old pictures of
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 6: you guys too, like the pictures from ninety nine.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 4: I've looked like this, like like high school graduation.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 9: Wow, how did you deal with that? Just beating him
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 9: off with a stick, Yes, Warren, did you get that?
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 4: White man?
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: Warren says that to pay raise for a car and news.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 6: Be cool if you came in there with like some
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 6: diesel jeans some one day really tight, like you got.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 4: A lot of like a difference between I mean young people.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 4: I definitely see like like I said that in the clip,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: the euro jeans, like I don't like the tight jeans.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 9: You were like low ones to like ride low.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 4: But I wear normal jeans like some of the Levis
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 4: some of the older men.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: Like when I say older, like over forty, who wear
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: the real tight jeans look absolutely ridiculous and you.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 4: And evidently that's what you're clamoring for me, so you.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: Can make I'm not tight tight jeans, but just modern jeans.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 4: Modern yeah, like Levi's what's the matter with.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 9: Levi's Yeah, I don't know these are my old man.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: Levi's are fine. The ivis not the kind of real
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: baggy ones.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 4: Well, they're well to my own woman right now, right, you.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: Need to get new clothes.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 9: There you go, let's work a makeover in Yeah, you know,
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 9: we'll put Paul on.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 4: That qu That'll be the next thing in the newsletter.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 4: The whole newsletter is just let's dump on Paul.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: Oh oh. So the last newsletter headline was me going
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: to the bathroom. But he's been playing because it's all
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: about it.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 4: That is true. There's two all the contents had an
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 4: accident or not to step up your game?
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 9: Right?
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: Pull on your way? Yeah?
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 9: Can I get a ruling?
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: Know?
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 9: I got LL Bean jeans on right now?
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 7: Is that?
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: Is that all depends on which one? See? I have
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: LL being gans on too, but they're the signature ones,
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: so they're not the they're not the classy baggy one.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 4: I can't even afford a car, and I'm supposed to
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 4: get like LL Bean jeans. Not that for my signature one.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: They're under one hundred dollars.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 4: You think I'm spending one hundred dollars on my jeans?
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: Listen, that's what closed costs.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 4: These days. Not jeans, not not to they're not they
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 4: don't go to kmart. But you don't have to spend
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 4: one hundred bucks to get appear or regular jeans.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: Something that like you get what you pay, something.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 4: My son would wear. Yeah, those are gonna cost you
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: a hundred bucks more of like a designer kind of thing.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: I'm not wearing the designer jeans cost two hundred bills.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 4: I'm not wearing Joe Ache.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying that, Paul Marshalls. Something that compliments you
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: a little bit, better listen. Something something that doesn't say,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: I'm going to the grocery store. Do you need anything that.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 4: Would be sweats, Something that doesn't say I've completely given up.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: This is the Show's the show, I mean screws dungarees.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 4: I hope you recorded all of that. I expect to
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: see we can.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 5: Do like a little a little.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 6: Paul cut out where we can like you know, fashion
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 6: you and you know, cut out a pair of jeans
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 6: and put.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 9: Them on like toy for the kids. The kid listeners.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 9: They want to dress up Paul Perlo. No, he's not
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 9: plus by that one.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: Like remember when I was little, they had this thing
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: called color forms. Yeah, those Yeah, bacon, bake them the
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: things I used to bake.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 4: No, No, this was like a that's what you did
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 4: in Cali with all your movies.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: This is like a two dimensional It was like a
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: board that you had these sticky vinyl things. And there's
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 3: still a thing for my kids.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 7: Have them.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 4: Color color forms.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: It's like a raincoat or a farmer. Yeah, just dress
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: them up with all the vinyl stickers on this one
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: half naked human being.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I remember what you're talking about. Colors, Yeah,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 4: color forms. Fun? What am I'm pretty sure that was
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 4: a commercial.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: Matt Cologne writes in Uh, my wife Elena and I
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: are just about to make dinner as we're listening to
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: the show on YouTube. Mike just came in and we
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: literally started dancing to the song. Thank you very much
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: for your show and all the input regarding the Patriots.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: Do you guys already know when the Patriots will return
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: to Germany and where they will play next time? At
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: the moment, there are rumors about a game in Berlin.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know if the Patriots are going to play
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 3: there next year, but I do know that Roger Dell
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: is working hard to get a game in Berlin.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 4: So yeah, those eight international games, like you said yesterday,
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 4: that's like.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 3: Half the that's half the league playing a game.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 4: Somewhere, you know.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 6: I mean, I just I want to know how Mad
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 6: what exactly that dance was like, because I mean, it's
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 6: it's a wonderful song, but it's kind of at least
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 6: very rhythmic.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 4: For you, yea, the song, because the song is outstands.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 9: It's wonderful, but it's.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 4: Like, you know, it's a song we've had.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 9: You're not doing like the run, You're kind.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: Of from the locker room. What was the mood?
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 9: What was it like testing the food together to the song?
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 4: Like, what was it?
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 12: Like?
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: Wonderful out and it fades out, fades into Mike.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 9: And then I just wink at the camera.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: One wants to talk football, Come on, so we'll go
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 3: back to football, okay. He says he went to the
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: Patriots Bears games last weekend and noticed that at the
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: top of the break, the Bears receivers were blanketed by
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: the Patriots defense. I noticed this a couple of times
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: before the beer took effect, not the Bear, the beer.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: After the game, I saw a video of someone calling
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: out the Bears play calling slash designs. He made a
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 3: point that most, if not all, the sacks came in
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: plays where the Bears receivers had super slow developing plays.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 3: He showed some videos showing that most if not all,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 3: the receiver routes would be outbreaking routes toward the sideline
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: and none or almost in the middle for quick throw options.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 3: In fact, he paused one video showing a Patriot defender
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 3: coming free and all you can see is vertical routes
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 3: down the field with none of the receivers having their
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: head turned toward the quarterback. Not to downplay how well
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: the Patriot's defense played, but how much did the Bears help,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: not just with the bat oline play, but also bad
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: calling or bad route running.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I the Bears offense did not look
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 6: in sync at all to me, and that's you know,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 6: I just I don't want to not.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 9: Give credit to the Patriots, but they just even.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 6: Some of the plays that I thought were there, Caleb
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 6: Williams just wasn't seeing it fast enough.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 9: And I mean, we've seen that kind of thing.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 4: That would be my argument how much of it was
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 4: on KAYLEB Williams, because you're not necessarily supposed to be
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 4: looking when the ball's thrown. Yeah, right, Like so if
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 4: you're looking at videos and no one's looking when the
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 4: pressure is coming, like there needs to be. I think
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 4: it's all of the above. Basically what the emailer is
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 4: describing is I think all of those things were part
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 4: of it. I think it's a poor design. I didn't
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 4: see a lot of downfield stuff, and Evan had yesterday
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 4: the numbers. It was only one throw that traveled more
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 4: than ten did you say ten yard or twenty? I
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 4: think it was so like that's just poor design. And
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 4: I think Caleb Williams did a poor job of reading
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 4: the field and handling the pressure and moving around. And
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 4: I think the Patriots also did a great job at
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 4: combating all of those things, whether it be in the
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 4: front end getting some pressure on him or the back
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 4: end and having tight coverage. I think it was sort
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 4: of a mix of a lot of bad stuff.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: Bubba writes in still kind of sticking on the Bears game.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 3: I don't want to rain on your parade, but winning
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: against the Bears doesn't mean much much like the sincey win.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: Instead of the sincey win, we only scored nineteen points
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: versus a bad team in total disarray. The offense was
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: not solid, pass protection was soft. There is still a
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 3: lot of work to get consistently scoring twenty plus points
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 3: per game. The defense played well, but Chicago's O line
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: was so weak that it's not NFL caliber. I like
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: the coverage it caused a number of the sacks. I
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: like the fewer mistakes and better coaching. Time will tell,
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: but I don't think they can win more than two
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: of the remaining games that the passing game does not
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: improve dramatically.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 9: I kind of agree with Bubba.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 3: They just have to get better. We're saying they don't.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 9: Ye no, but a win win at this point, I
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 9: think that's what everyone will will take.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 4: And I think that the fact that they were able
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 4: to do what they did. The difference in this game
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: in the Cincinnati game, to me was they won this
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 4: game easily going away. They took advantage of the other
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 4: team not playing well and won easily. Now, I would
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 4: have loved to have seen more conversions in the red
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 4: zone and all that, and I would have liked to
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 4: have seen Drake may look a little bit more comfortable
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 4: than he did. But to win a game easily when
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 4: the other team is playing you know poorly, that's what
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 4: you're supposed to do.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 9: I think too.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 6: You just see the effect that losing week after week
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 6: has on a team, and you know, no matter how
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 6: you get a win, it just has such a beneficial
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 6: effect to the team and just gives them a reprieve
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 6: from all the same questions and everything. And this is
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 6: what I felt today in the in the locker room
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 6: and in the interviews. That was just everybody had a
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 6: little bit renewed energy this week and that's you know,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 6: hopefully that can help them continue it. But I agree
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 6: with the sentiment. Well, but they got they got a
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 6: lot to a lot of work still to do.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: Tom in England said quick over under how many full
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: games will Cole Strange play for the New England Patriots
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 3: from now until he becomes a free agent. The over under,
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 3: he says, is thirteen.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 4: What year is this for him?
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 9: This is the third year, so his fourth year.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 6: Next year, they'd have to pick up his option this
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 6: coming season if they were this coming off season.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 4: If they were to do it, that's for the fifth year.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 4: So next year I would say seventeen.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 3: He's going to play all games? Yeah, okay, so over
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 3: over thirteen?
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 4: Oh over yes.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: Also shout out to Paul for his ability and passion
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: to argue any argument at any time, no matter whether
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 3: he agrees or not. It's an art form.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 4: It's a gift and a curse.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 6: It is a curse because sometimes I imagine the inside
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 6: of Paul's mind.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 9: Arguing both sides of it himself.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 4: Would you say that I argue one side here a
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 4: lot and then good complete?
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: Would you credit Rich Parillo for that gift?
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, your brother just torturing you.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 4: You think I'm a pro. There's a guy who missed
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 4: his call.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: No, I mean, you know, for every great argument, there's
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: an argument behind them.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 6: Oh sure, well, and I mean I I've just noticed
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 6: that little brothers are so affected by big brothers, Like
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 6: you know, little brothers and big brothers.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 9: That's a I know. I didn't have brothers growing up.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 4: And all I ever wanted to do was argue with them.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 3: How many times did an argument with Rich turn into
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 3: a fight? Physical fight?
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 4: Physical? No? No, okay, no, I mean we fought physically.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 4: We did, but not necessarily because of arguing. Okay, it
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 4: was more because of something usually that I did.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 6: The funny thing I noticed about brothers, though, is that,
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 6: like they'll start kind of doing stuff with each other,
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 6: and then one will escalate with some kind of physical thing,
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 6: and then the other one gets raging, pissed, and like
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 6: you can just watch it go from like hah, kind
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 6: of joking around to all of a sudden they're like
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 6: at their each other's throats and have.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 3: To be separated, right and all the past grievances.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I punched them once in the shoulder, like
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 4: up here, like I and like as hard as I could,
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 4: like and I hit like the top of his shoulder
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 4: and it kind of like slipped off, and I hit
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 4: him in the jaw. And that's about time. That's about
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 4: as afraid as I've ever been in my life. And
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 4: I'm not exaggerating. I ran as fast as I could
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 4: my friend Joey Joey Massa save me. He got he
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 4: got in between, gave me a little bit of a
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 4: head start. I made it down the stairs, down the driveway,
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 4: around the corner, and he's eventually he just stopped chasing.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 4: I thought he was going to kill me because I
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 4: totally didn't do it on purpose. I just meant to
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 4: hit him in the arm. She ended up hitting him
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 4: like as hard as I could. And I was probably
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 4: like fifteen or sixteen, so it wasn't like I was
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 4: a little kid, like I had something behind it, not
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 4: like I was Mike Tyson or anything.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: And left hand.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 9: How much older is he?
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 17: You think?
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 4: Four years?
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: Four years?
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 9: It's the same as my boy.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: Joe Wright Sin says he's disappointed in Paul. Yesterday, he
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: said Drake has the skill to play in Buffalo, mentioning
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: that he can throw the ball into the wind. Where
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: was the snarky when he knows it's there or not?
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 3: Just when the coaches make him.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 9: That's pretty good, that's pretty good.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 4: Also, just you know, I don't put any of the
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 4: thing in Tennessee on Drake, man, right, I don't need
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 4: there's no snark involved. There's snarking with the wind in
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 4: Tennessee is on the coach.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: Also, man, does friend make being rich sound hard? Or what?
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: Getting up from your table, paying your tab, carry your drink?
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: Don't carry your drink? And this is before you've even
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 3: tried to order your steak and all the rules that
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 3: come with that. True, God, oh man.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 5: You shouldn't.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 4: You shouldn't have to carry your own drink. That's not.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 3: It's not that I just said I carry my own drink,
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 3: but I from what I understand, it's not good etiquette
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: to do it.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 4: No, Like if I was out at like the Capitol Grille, Yeah,
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 4: I probably wouldn't do that.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 3: I would.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't carry my drink.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 3: I would.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 4: You would, well, but you're not supposed to.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 3: They say that you're not supposed to, but I would.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 3: And somebody emailed a good thing. He says in today's
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 3: day and age, if I've started a drink, there's no
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 3: way I'm trusting that drink with somebody else, Like it's
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 3: not out of my sight.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 4: Oh, I wouldn't do, Roofie.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 3: I'm not letting that drink out of my sight.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 4: So, but that's hypocritical. You let it out of your
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 4: sight when he brought it to you. Yeah, yeah, so
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 4: why I mean, I get for women, that's a different thing,
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 4: and it's it's a very serious issue. But it's not
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 4: like the guy next to you at the bar is
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 4: carrying your drink over the server is carrying your drink
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 4: over the same server in a lot of cases that
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 4: gave it to you in the first place. So I
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 4: don't really understand what the feorists.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: Bert and Burton Island writes, and he says he's been
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 3: wondering is it possible that Todd from North Carolina is
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 3: secretly trolling everybody? Because every time he calls in, he
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 3: always manages to work in the word O fence. There
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 3: are definitely some dim witted listeners to the show, especially
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 3: those who don't recognize the greatness of the picks segment.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 3: To me, it is the best part of the show
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 3: each week. I especially love the coajin analysis of each
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 3: game by Alex.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 4: I will say that some people, some people might not
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 4: know Todd in North Carolina is originally from Canada. Nova Scotia.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 4: I believe, right, Todd Nova Scotia think so. Yeah, that's
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 4: how he his original last name was Nova Scotia. In
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 4: Nova Scotia, I think so he has the Canadian he
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 4: does accent.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: But do you think he emphasizes I don't think.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 4: He's trolling us, now you don't. Maybe I don't put
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 4: anything past anybody. Yeah, you know, it's kind of like,
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 4: you know what Fred says, it's a winnable game. I
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 4: absolutely agree. Any given someday, it's a winnable game.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 3: All right, let's get back to the TPX hotline. We've
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 3: heard from some emailers. Let's get to the callers. Mike's
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 3: in Puerto Rico. What's up, Mike?
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 17: Hey, everybody having an awesome Patriot How about yourself?
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: Always better after a win, I know.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 17: And I actually got to travel down for both the
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 17: Titans and the Chicago game. I met Melvin and Dre
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 17: I guess just before you went out with them in
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 17: Nashville and got to see the comeback against the Titans,
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 17: which was really cool. And then because we were driving
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 17: the whole time, we stopped in Indianapolis and got to
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 17: experience us saying almost.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 13: Shrimp cocktail, oh nice.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 17: Which was which was overpowering. I mean that that is
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 17: some strong stuff over there. And checked off Soldier Fields
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 17: from from my bucket list of places that I wanted
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 17: to go. That place is actually really cool.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's dump though they're already looking for a new stadium.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 7: Years.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 17: Yeah, the same thing.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 4: With Yeah, but it's a dump. I mean that was
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 4: I mean, that is a dump.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 3: But it's a story of the historic places. You can't
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 3: beat the setting right there on the Lake day, Yeah,
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 13: Yeah, and and.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 17: The day before Veterans Day, like the whole thing that
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 17: they did over there was actually really really cool. But
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 17: I'm excited. I mean, I know I was down a
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 17: couple of weeks ago when I called in, but obviously
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 17: getting Drake in and the way that they perform, and
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 17: I mean just seeing that comeback against the Titans, I
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 17: mean that was really impressive and just the I think
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 17: we've turned the corner and I think the team has
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 17: got some positive energy. I think Mayo is pushing the
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 17: right buttons. Hopefully Alex Abp keeps developing Drake and Drake
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 17: just keeps ticking a stronger and larger leadership role in
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 17: the team.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 3: Okay, I agree, Thanks Mike, appreciate the call. Uh, let's
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 3: go to Arizona where Riley's on the phone. What's up? Riley? Riley? Hello, right?
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 3: What what is going on?
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 4: I had one of his kids waiting online.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 11: I believe I was going, Uh, first time puller here.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 11: I've been a listener for a couple of years now,
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 11: but first time calling. So just wanted to say, uh
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 11: that you guys are my favorite Patriots podcasts to listen to.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 11: I listened to some of the others and I just
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 11: want to say Felder and maz are some real bozos.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 11: Listening to them a little bit yesterday, and they couldn't
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 11: even pronounce Brendan Schooler's name correctly. They kept calling and
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 11: Brandon brain and Schooler.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 3: Well, that that's disrespect.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 11: That's how they yeah, exactly, And to me, it's just like,
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 11: how are you gonna have a podcast about Patriots football
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 11: but not even educate yourselves on the players and pronounce
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 11: their names correctly?
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 6: It is awful, I agree.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 11: And then I just have two other quick things. This
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 11: might be more of a question for Evan, but between
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 11: Kelvin Banks and Will Campbell, who would you guys rather
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 11: draft and why? And then lastly, I know we've talked
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 11: a lot about C Higgins and how he's going to
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 11: be a free agent, But if we weren't able to
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 11: land C Higgins, what other wide receivers would you like
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 11: to see us go after, especially considering s Higgins's kind
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 11: of injury prone and has been the last couple of seasons.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 11: And then finally, I hope to see you guys at
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 11: the Cardinals Patriots game on the fifteenth. Just bought my
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 11: ticket last weekend, so super soaked for that and looking forward.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 3: To it, all right, thanks Riley. I wonder if there's
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 3: any fan stuff gonna happen in Arizona, we'll have to go,
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 3: so thanks time.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 9: But big Finkle down there, right.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, how much they used to opine on
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 4: various things. I mean yeah, speaking of PFW and progress timelines,
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 4: Evans answer to the tackle question would be, whichever one
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 4: of them has thirty three.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 6: Inch right that it's true? I mean, I haven't. I've
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 6: done enough just on those guys like.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 4: I like them both.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 6: They're both, They're both have some question marks though. I
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 6: think at the start of the season everyone said these
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 6: two guys are top five left tackle the future, and
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 6: now they're both have, you know, questions if they'll be
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 6: able to develop into those players.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 9: I think I think.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 6: Banks is maybe a little bit more high ceiling, a
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 6: little bit more athletic, but there'll be plenty of time
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 6: to get into that. I just think of the Patriots
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 6: are seven, eight, nine, ten somewhere in there that that's
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 6: probably a good.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 3: At some point early on, I looked at who were
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 3: the projected free agents for wide receivers next year, and
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 3: now I forget who they are. Is are there any
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 3: big names that are going to be legitimate free agents,
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 3: because don't rule out trades too, because that can happen
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 3: as well.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know who's going to be traded the
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 4: free agent list. I mean I think most people put
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 4: T Higgins at the top of the list, So yeah,
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 3: Then it's not great. It's okay if he's in.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 4: The top, you know, well for free agents. For free agents,
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 4: that's pretty high. Like usually the guys don't become free agents.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 4: It's kind of it's not as bad as left tackle,
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 4: but usually you trade the guy if you don't think
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 4: you're gonna be able to resign him. That's why you
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 4: have seen a lot of high profile trades. So you're
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 4: not wrong to think trade market. See who's you know,
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 4: if you know, forget T Higgins, are they going to
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 4: continue to sort of screw around with Jamar Chase.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 9: Opportunistic?
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 4: So they're going to have to get him signed. You
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 4: know in this offseason. He's not gonna want to play
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 4: it out. I mean he already held out all of
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 4: the summer. You know, after his third year, he's not
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 4: gonna want to play it out, you know, heading into
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 4: his h his fourth year, right, that's this is his
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 4: third year heading into his fourth year. Yeah, make them
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 4: an off whe we can't refuse Chase.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 9: Yes, I would take mar Chase, Yes for sure.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, if we're looking at guys to target, why
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 4: not go for that. But that's the the A J.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 4: That's the year that you do it.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 9: Yeah right, you know you got the money to do it.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 9: Like that moves my needle. I just I just don't
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 9: like to get off.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 17: T.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 6: Higgins and like, I just I don't, I don't know,
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 6: I just I'm I'm over pining for any wide receiver
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 6: with a pulse outside.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 9: Of the building.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 6: I think we see every year there are guys that
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 6: come in that are good. So you know, I think
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 6: my primary thing would be certainly like if you could
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 6: get you know, and there's probably five guys that I
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 6: would say that about.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 9: In the league. Certainly A J.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 6: Brown was you know one of them. T Higgins is not,
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 6: but you know Jamar Chase definitely is. I just continue
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 6: to stack these guys. I date day two picks speed,
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 6: Day two pick wide receiver speed.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 9: That to me is how how you should do it.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 9: And you know, I just I don't know. I just
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 9: I can't spend another.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 6: Offseason taking twenty five calls about T Higgins as if
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 6: he is the answer to everything, and I like, there's another.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 3: Part of it.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 4: Two to be alone is not the answer to every
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 4: now now.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 6: And I know you said they need two guys, but
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 6: I just there's an appeal to me in developing guys
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 6: and they're all coming in together.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 9: Whereas when you're gonna go out and you're gonna.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 6: Pay huge money to a guy who already did it elsewhere,
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 6: this guy's gonna come in with expectations, with an ego,
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 6: And so I just think from a team building dynamic,
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 6: there's something to be said for working your way up
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 6: with guys and Drake May, you draft a guy this
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 6: year and they earn that chemistry and they're all in
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 6: it together instead of Drake May. And some guys start
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 6: to work together and okay, guys, now we're going to
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 6: bring in this superstar and.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 9: It might work out great. But there's also another element.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 4: This is good, this's a good discussion. Let me ask you,
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 4: do you think Philadelphia, do you think Howie Roseman likes
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 4: DeVante Smith more than AJ Brown?
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 6: Well, I would say I like AJ Brown is one
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 6: of these guys of come hell or Higwase.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 4: But I'm not necessarily talking about like as a player.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 4: Like he likes the fact these are both great wide
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 4: receivers that we have. But I drafted and developed Deavante Smith,
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 4: whereas I just traded for someone else to develop aj Brown.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 4: I don't think anybody cares. No.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 3: And there's the point.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 4: That you need to have is you need to hit
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 4: on both. So I'm all in on the Mike Dusaut
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 4: plan of let's get another T Higgins in the second round.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 4: But you know what I'm hoping for with the second
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 4: round pick T Higgins? Right, So why not draft whoever
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 4: in the second round and signed T Higgins and then
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 4: maybe the guy in the second round turns out to
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 4: be better than T Higgins and I have a one
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 4: in a two yep. I would just say so, like
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 4: the whole like, and this is again, I'm gonna pick
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 4: on mad again because this is what Mattick goes. Matt
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 4: hates all of these guys like Jamar Chase and Justin
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 4: Jefferson are like the only two guys in the league
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 4: that are worthy of his sort of admiration. And I
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 4: get it, those guys are great. I love them both.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 4: They're not probably not available, right, right, So what do
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 4: you do? Like he hated Calvin Ridley. Okay, I get it.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 4: Calvin Ridley's not AJ Brown, He's not Mike's right, he's
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 4: not Justin Jefferson. But he's pretty good and you could
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 4: have got him for a lot less than those guys cost,
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 4: but unfortunately he didn't sign. Like, if you had him,
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 4: I think you'd be one step closer to where you
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 4: need to be with the wide receiver room. So find
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 4: another one, yep in draft one. I like, I'm all
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 4: on the deuce plant. Yeah, Like, you can't just say
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 4: we're gonna sign T Higgins and everything's gonna be Okay, No,
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 4: it won't be.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 3: No sucks think of Lad McConkey.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm pretty sure No Socks has no.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 9: Lack, I hear you.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 6: I just think like it becomes Yeah, I do it
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 6: for Justin Jefferson, I do it for A J.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 7: Brown.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 6: Now I'll do it for Brandon Ayuk. Yeah, yeah, I'll
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 6: do it for Calvin. Really, I'll do it for T.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 9: Higgins.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 6: Like at a certain point it just becomes a ton
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 6: of issue for me where you're not talking about the
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 6: same players anymore.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 9: You're talking about.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 6: Guys who are maybe more complimentary players, and like, if
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna overextend I want a J Brown, I would
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 6: have done it for Calvin.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 4: But I don't want to think I just want to
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 4: sign a guy in a free agency And if I'm
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 4: signing T Higgins and I think I'm getting Justin Jefferson,
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 4: then I'm wrong. That's it. That's that's a that's a
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 4: me problem. But T Higgins is a really good player.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 4: The callers right, I think it was the caller or
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 4: the emailer. He's a little injury prone. It's had a
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 4: couple of hamstring problems this year that have cost him
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 4: multiple games, but when he's on the field, he's a
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 4: difference maker for that team. Now you can say it's
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 4: all because of Chase, you might be right, but he
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 4: was a thousand yard receiver before Chase got there. He
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 4: was a really good player as a rookie when they
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 4: had nothing. It was Burrow and Higgins with a little
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 4: bit of Tyler Boyd sprinkled in, and he was pretty good.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 3: Would you bring in Cooper Cup No, No, too old.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 4: I think he's a little past the speed I want speed.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 4: But you know what, you could probably convince me in
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 4: Cooper Cup too. But now you definitely got to do
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 4: the douce play. Oh yeah, you got to get someone
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 4: about the answer. You got to get someone above.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 9: And I think it all either plan feeds into what
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 9: you're saying.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 6: They need to guys two guys that move the needle,
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 6: and I mean, you're right one way or another, try
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 6: to get them.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 9: I just I just think that there is.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 6: Value for if you can believe in your own internal development.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 6: And like I mean it to be honest, other side
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 6: of the ball, like I've kind of got to crush
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 6: a little bit on what the Rams are doing on defense,
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 6: where over the last couple of years they've hit a
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 6: multiple defensive draft picks, and you heard the guys this
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 6: morning talking about how hard those guys are playing, and
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 6: you know, statistically you look at them, they don't look
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 6: overwhelming or anything like that. But over the course of
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 6: two years, you've got at least four guys in your
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 6: front that were drafted over the first two days of
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 6: the draft that are making impacts now and that are
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 6: all starting to grow together. And that to me is
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 6: like the sexiest thing of all team building is like.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 9: When you nail the draft. You got young, a young
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 9: cores that all grows together, that all gets experienced together.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 9: Like that, that's ideal to me.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 3: Ella's from Wisconsin says, Mike is completely right on wide receivers.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 3: We should trust our front office to pick a wide
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 3: receiver in the draft. Just look at their track record.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 4: That was going to be a mass stiff.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 9: That's and that's totally fair. But what do you do.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 9: Just stop drafting wide receivers. You're never going to do
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 9: it again.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 4: You can't do it.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 3: Is like they did with tight ends. They kept drafting
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 3: tight ends until they.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 6: Got and like I mean, I'm sorry, just you know,
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 6: draft a lot of times guys don't work out, and
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 6: you just have to continue to hit it. And you know,
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 6: Paul and I have said this since the first time
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 6: I went to the combine with him.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 9: Every year there's guys every year.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 6: And granted they haven't hit him, and they didn't really
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 6: seem like they hit him this year either, even though
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 6: they did what we've been wanting them to do forever,
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 6: which is go double dip on the receivers. You gotta
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 6: keep you gotta keep doing it. There's too much talent
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 6: out there, Like you can't hit it.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 4: You can't just say like, well we don't evaluate that position.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 4: Well yeah, and say well you got to keep trying
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 4: and you got to get it right.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 3: Uhn. Cody's in West Virginia.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 9: What's up to, Cody?
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 3: Hey, guys doing good?
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 6: Hey good?
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 12: Uh you guys were just talking about the draft. I know,
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 12: probably a little sticking in hearing about it now, especially
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 12: being months away from now, but I think the bestops
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 12: right now is to choose a wide receiver in the
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 12: first round because there is a left tackle in the
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 12: second round, like projected to go in the second round. Now,
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 12: I'm going to sound like a bit of a homework
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 12: because he is from WVU. His name is why Milam,
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 12: and some stats for you. He's the only lineman who's
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 12: graded at eighty five and fast blocking and run blocking
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 12: and hasn't given up a pressure and hasn't given up
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 12: a sack in the past two years. So I'm wondering
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 12: if you think that would be okay, you know, maybe
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 12: drafts McMillan and then choose him in the second round,
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 12: or maybe just you know, double diet that left tackle. Listen,
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 12: I'll take it off the air.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 3: I thank you, Cody, you know I don't know about
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 3: the guy, but if the stats are true and I much,
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 3: I'd much prefer doing that, taking a good left tackle
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 3: in the second round and using the first round for
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 3: you know, a skill position player who is more of
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 3: a sure thing. Yeah, you know, so I like that.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 3: I don't what what was the name?
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 4: That was a great fretism? Though a little twist, because
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 4: I'm all on board with everything you said. But he
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 4: had a little twist?
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 7: Was it?
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 4: Who's more of a sure thing?
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 4: I agree. If I have a guy, if I'm choosing
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 4: at number five between this guy and this guy, I'll
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 4: take the guy that's more of a sure thing. I
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 4: don't care about his position. If he's more of a
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 4: sure thing, I want him.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 3: But i'd rather have a no.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 4: But I don't know that, not that McMillan is more
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 4: of a sure thing.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 3: If I'm drafting high in the first round, I'd rather
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 3: have a sure thing skill position player than a sure
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 3: thing tackle.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 4: Okay, so you're saying you'd rather have the wide receiver
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 4: than the tackle if they're equal. Yeah, okay, so that's different.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 9: What about if it's a sure thing but he might
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 9: not be able to play tackle, But then they'd be
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 9: a sure thing at guard because I think that's kind
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 9: of what is going on Will Campbell.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 4: That's not going to be Banks. Banks is at tackle
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 4: Will Campbell's.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 6: I mean, that's some of the speculation with him of
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 6: if he can't tackle because he's got thirty two inch arms.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 3: But now you but now you've reached that.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 4: Well that's why you find but you know all this
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 4: stuff before the draft, right, like you know that if
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 4: he doesn't have the evan requisite arm length.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 3: But who was what was the name of the guy
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 3: from West Virginia Cody? No, No, no, the guy the
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 3: player I couldn't We're gonna draft Cody.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 4: Well, I just remember different names.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 3: So we're gonna have to look at this guy because
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 3: if those stats are correct, Yeah, that's a high rating
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 3: and all.
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 4: It's just what I mean, can I see what the
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 4: scouts think of him?
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 3: Well, don't really do much.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 6: I mean, you know, Will Campbell plays l s u
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 6: is you know, a stud left tackle and the like.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 9: We don't even know if he can play it left
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 9: like even.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 4: Though they're playing against the best of the best, not
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 4: the big twelve.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 9: Yeah, right, it's hard.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 6: I mean, that's that's what the frustrating thing is with
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 6: like a lot of these linemen developed where it's like
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 6: he's a left tackle, but he's probably gonna end up
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 6: inside a guard.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 9: There's so many of those.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 4: Come all, I'm all in Onna Coody's theory if that
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 4: kid and I.
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 9: Don't a little gym, I don't pretend to know.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 4: But like, listen, how many guys were in the second
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 4: round last year at tackle I would have taken.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 3: Run it.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 4: You know, ros and Garden and you know Uni, like
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 4: all those guys. Now they're probably a little further away
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 4: from being you know, NFL ready. That's why their second
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 4: round pick, right. So that so those guys, some of
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 4: those guys that have played, they've struggled a little bit.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 4: You know, Believe me, I find I hear about it
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 4: because you know, I wanted to draft one of them,
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 4: and you know, everybody, one of the ones.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 9: That was availed impossible, couldn't have done it.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 4: One of the ones that was available. You smell like
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 4: outside again, it's cold.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 3: I can tell Sweitch up. Evan is here and he
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 3: looks cold and.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 9: Then has turned.
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: Has turned.
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 3: So you're making a big deal about the weather. It
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 3: was freezing out there.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't say it was freezing, but we're definitely we
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 5: got football weather out there. Now we're not we're not
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 5: doing this, you know, global warming stuff anymore. This is
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 5: we're getting a little Last.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 3: Week, you were complaining about people talking.
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 9: About he doesn't like it.
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I don't like people that like exaggerate about
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 5: the weather. You know, like, we go outside, it's so beautiful,
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 5: let's work outside, November beautiful. Let's bring our laptops out
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 5: here today, guys, let's let's have school outside.
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, he doesn't want what a weather curmudgets.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 6: And when he's complaining about the nice weather, and then
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 6: the first day it's cold today, he's like, I'm gonna.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 3: Go upstairs, you know.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't care if I stayed inside in the building.
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 5: I don't care for the cold.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 3: You don't care for the cold, No, you're up here.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 5: Went to college in Ithaca, New York.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 9: Don't care for the cold in California.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 3: But did you care for practice? Today?
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 5: Practice was? Practice was upbeat? Today?
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 3: Upbeat? I would say there was a mood, a discernible
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 3: mood shift.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 5: There was a mood shift a little bit. I wouldn't
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 5: you know, I don't want to exaggerate too much, but
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 5: definitely enough beat practice and uh, I thought, uh, whoever
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 5: was on the ox cord is doing a great job
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 5: getting some nice tunes in there too to fire the
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 5: group up. And it was good to see Kyle Duggar
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 5: back at practice. Whoever was on the what the OX cord? Like,
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 5: you're the phone rug into the speaker and then you
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 5: play the music through the chord and OX yeah, a UX.
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the cord. Tell me how you dress?
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 3: And that's what the kids say.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well that's what I said. I gotta be honest,
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 5: I don't know what the kids say these days now
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 5: you have you have Bluetooth and things like that.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I've.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 3: Never heard that before. I just like, who's on the playlist?
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 5: I've heard that, who's on the ox? It's kind of
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 5: like the cord because, like you know, that was the
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 5: first time that you could go phone to car speakers
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 5: was with the OX cord or the tape decks. Really
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 5: was the first time.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 9: But I still have to do that on their car's bluetooth.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 5: Now it's bluetooth.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 6: You don't need the cord, right, not so everybody if
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 6: your car was made fifteen that's our yeah.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 5: Anyways, anyway, yeah, kids these.
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 3: Days, I don't know yes practice to talk about.
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 5: So the good news for the Patriots on the practice
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 5: field is that Kyle Duggar was back at practice today.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 5: So that was the first time we have seen him
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 5: in quite a while since that ankle injury flared up
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 5: a couple.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 4: Of weeks ago.
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 5: So he was back. Yanique in Gokway is I guess
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 5: how you say it, not like Ariani, it's yani Yi. Yeah.
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 5: So Yanique in Gocway was that practice as well? Sporting
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 5: a Joshua fifty five. Uh, so he is was practicing
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 5: and participating. And I don't know if you guys spoke
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 5: about what he said before practice already.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 3: Mike was talking about it.
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and uh, but quite a few absences, so uh,
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 5: Taki not there, absent with we believe a hamstring injury.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 5: Marcella's dial it seems like he's in concussion protocol. Uh,
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 5: he was out of practice today. Whise absent, some lower
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 5: leg issues there. And then one that we are not
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 5: one hundred percent sure about is Isaiah Bolden, who was
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 5: also not at practice today. So four guys missing on
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 5: the defensive side of the ball from practice. And it's
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 5: a little bummer about Taki Talkie because I thought that
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 5: he played decent in the game and now he's heard of.
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 3: Get what he's listed as.
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 9: Yeah, what did you think of what Gakway said?
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 4: I liked it.
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 5: I liked the Jags comparison. I thought that was about
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 5: as uh oh. So I didn't share that part of
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 5: good answers he possibly could have given in that situation.
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 5: So he was obviously asked about the elephant in the
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 5: room of he went from the Ravens and potentially the
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 5: number one seed to the Patriots, who are obviously not
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 5: in the same spot. And he mentioned getting drafted by
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 5: the Jaguars in twenty sixteen and twenty sixteen they went
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 5: three and thirteen under Doug Moron and the next year
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 5: they were in the AFC Championship Game. So that was
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 5: his answer his response to being here on more of
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 5: a rebuilding team versus on a team that has Super
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 5: Bowl aspirations.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 3: Okay, so he's thinking about being here more than just
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 3: this season.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah about that too.
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 6: I mean, nothing has happened, but that was interesting to
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 6: me of of, you know, maybe maybe they are considering
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 6: trying to keep them on.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 9: I mean, we'll see what he has to has left
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 9: in the tank first.
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 3: Getting back to the practice, I know they weren't practicing,
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 3: but any sighting of Christian Barmore or Cole Strange.
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 5: No, so he saw both of them in the locker
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 5: room today, but no practice yet for either one of
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 5: those guys. Uh, so we'll see. I didn't see them
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 5: walking out at all, even to the upper fields because
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 5: we were on the lower fields today, so a little
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 5: bit different setup. But no, I didn't I didn't see
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 5: any either of those guys present at practice.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 6: I was kind of surprised that Jerrod said that Cole
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 6: was behind Barmore, Like I thought that was kind of interesting,
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 6: because I mean, time is running out, like I don't know,
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 6: I just it's like, yeah, getting to the point of
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 6: like now or never, like one of the last three
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 6: games or something.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 3: We were talking earlier about Gerard's press conference this morning
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 3: and he made it a point to compliment a VP
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 3: in his development of Drake May so far. Did that
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 3: ruffle the feathers of your media cohorts?
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 5: No, No, I don't think it ruffled any feathers. I
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 5: agree with them, Like.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 3: We've said it on the show. Somebody's doing a good
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 3: job with Drake, but some of your friends in the
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 3: media may not agree with that.
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 5: No, I didn't hear any of that. There's nothing. Not
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 5: a lot of conversations about that. Some of the conversations
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 5: we were having were more centered around the players. You know,
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 5: Mike on went who and his performance so far, Ramandrie
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 5: Stevenson's performance on Sunday and everybody. They do their own
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 5: process of their review and then we come back on
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 5: Wednesday as usually and people, you know, what do you
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 5: think about this?
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 3: Greg?
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 5: But darts say, I have not read that practice. He
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 5: was not at practice. He ever come to practice, training
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 5: camp and training camp.
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 3: But I'm talking about now.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 5: Uh No, But I do see him in the like.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 3: That he doesn't come to practice.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 5: That's you have to ask him.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 9: Doesn't see the point in it. It's just gonna be.
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 9: It's who's there, who's not there, That's about it.
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 3: I get the sense he doesn't like everybody in the
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 3: media corps.
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 5: Oh, he did give me a nice shout out yesterday.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 3: I appreciated that because even during training camp he would
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 3: not be with them, he would be separate.
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 9: Well, he don't want to be distracted, you gotta watch it.
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 5: Well, it's all about the vantage point.
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess, I don't know.
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 9: It's like me and I haven't sitting up top we're
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 9: talking about.
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 4: So I want to catch you up.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 3: He could have Greg could have come up and sat
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 3: with us. I would have been happy to have him
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 3: with us. Tell him if he wants to come up.
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 4: He's been up there, I know.
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 3: But if he wants to watch practice from where we watch.
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 4: The perfectly saying that's what he has. He has in
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 4: the summer, he was up there, he was down on
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 4: the side.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 3: Oh, I saw him down below.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 4: He's down there as well. Yeah, but he's he's been
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 4: up there. So we had a call that wanted to add,
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 4: ask you Will Campbell or Banks, which one you like
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 4: the best? I said, would say that whichever one has
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 4: thirty three or longer in charms.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's gonna be big. I mean, look, the big
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 5: thing with both those guys is that they play the
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 5: position a little bit differently. So I think it's more
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 5: about maybe what you're looking for in terms of flavor
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 5: of style of play. Will Campbell's a little bit more
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 5: of that, you know, lighter on his feed dancing bear type,
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 5: whereas Calvin Banks is more of a mauling type of tackle.
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 5: A very strong guy can move people in the run game.
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 5: But it's going to come down to that day in
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 5: February when they pull out the tape measure and they
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 5: measure their arms.
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  Speaker 3: So we got a call while you were gone to
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  Speaker 3: Cody from Okay, well you go ahead.
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  Speaker 4: Jeez, go ahead, That's exactly what I was going to say.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, we got a call from a person from West Virginia.
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 3: Big you know, West Virginia fan. He said, there's a
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 3: kid projected tackle in the second round probably who is
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 3: rating for past protection and run is like in the Yeah,
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 3: and he said that's rare.
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 4: No pressure is allowed.
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  Speaker 3: He's statistically, I forget the players.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe what you're cee. He it might be him from Minnesota.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, no West Virginia.
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  Speaker 5: From West Virginia.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe what's the kid from West Virginia?
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 9: The kids west from West Virginia.
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 4: He said it was a West Virginia here.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, West Virginia player.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, I don't know.
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 4: He said he might be a little guilty of being
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 4: a little bit of a homer, but that's how we prefaced.
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, high mid eighties for both run and past.
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 5: Interesting. Yeah, look, I I would just say from not
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 5: to pick on anybody the call or anything, but but
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 5: you will pressures in college. I just I don't think
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 5: that they really add much to the conversation.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 3: Wyatt Milo Okay, yeah, I know, I.
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 5: Know, I know he's talking about now. I don't think
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 5: pressures in college is a great way to assess the
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 5: offensive lineman in college because of the types of offenses
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 5: that they play at the college level. They are air
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 5: raid offenses where they get the ball out quickly and
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 5: they're they're splits in the way that they pass set
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 5: is definitely different than what they're going to do at
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 5: the NFL level. It does make it difficult at times
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 5: to evaluate them because they have so few pro style
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 5: pass sets a season that it's it's hard.
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  Speaker 4: So that's why I made a comment about the Big twelve.
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 4: A lot of offenses operate that way.
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 5: Right, So, you know, not take anything away from the player,
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 5: but if the guy's getting the ball out in two
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 5: point two seconds, you need they're throwing a bunch of bubble
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 5: screens all the time, then you're obviously not going to
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 5: have the exposures to allow pressure but I'll definitely check
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 5: him out. And I know, yeah, the other guy is
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 5: I always pronounce his name wrong. I think it's Minnesota,
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 5: who's a really raw, athletic freak of a tackle that
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 5: has checks all the measure bles and athleticism boxes, but
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 5: just need some seasoning. So he's the other guy that's
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 5: starting to creep up into this conversation as well.
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 3: All right, right, let's do a couple of calls. We're
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 3: coming to the end, but we'll get some people off
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 3: because I know we've got to get out of here
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 3: for Rook in the playbook, which is coming up next.
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 3: Let's go to Henry in Yorkshire. What's up Henry?
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 10: Al Right, guys with the show. I was just in't
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 10: called up for yesterday's show, and it was interested in.
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 10: Havant said, I think they're playing man coverage for five
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 10: percent of the time. The secondized in the league when
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 10: mixed up, well, historicalist is the secondize in the league.
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 10: But he just sounded a little bit well, but I've
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 10: all got me thinking about how in the summer and
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 10: A want to talk about how Van Pell wants to
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 10: playoff then don't really remember that about and defense? And
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 10: I was just wondering ten weeks and what have you
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 10: seen in terms of how this points I want to
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 10: play the expense. What's your thoughts on that? And then
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 10: my other question was how a concience to the news left?
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 10: And I'll check it off one cheer good, All right, I.
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 3: Might understand a word of that. And it wasn't just
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 3: as he had kind of a weird It wasn't the accident.
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 3: It was the connection.
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 9: It was like it was a combination of the two.
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 5: Did anyone understand I think he was talking about Van Pelt.
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 4: I heard van Pelt in the middle of it, but
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 4: that's about the only two words.
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 9: Like in Bruce like it's like they have like the
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 9: really thick.
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to pretend I understood what he said.
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 7: I'm not.
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 4: Now I feel bad.
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 5: I'm just going to assume he was asking about how
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 5: van pell our opinions on Van Pelt.
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 3: We already talked about that.
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel bad because I just assumed that was
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 4: the only one.
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 3: That wasn't really it wasn't just his his accident. It
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 3: was like the connection was kind of in and out
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 3: a little bit. So sorry about that. Henry Elj is
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 3: in North Carolina, what's up, Eldred?
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 9: Hey, the show whatever here so far? Like me, gimme
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 9: Higgins and gimme t Matt and that guy.
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 12: From with Virginia, Minnesota. I would try to get him
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 12: in the stuck round.
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 13: To the tackles on them.
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 3: It's a guy from West Virginia.
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 5: Well, so the guy you're city is going to be
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 5: a top twenty twenty five pick, like he's not going
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 5: in the second round. But the guy from West Virginia, mate,
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 5: So that could be someone that they could if they
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 5: have you know, I don't know, thirty seven or thirty
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 5: eight in the second round or something like that that
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 5: they could target. But the cave from Minnesota is going
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 5: to be the high draft.
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 3: Thanks, Aldred. And one more before we leave, Courtney's in Houston.
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 3: What's up Courtney? Courtney? Oh and then we probably thought
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 3: she wasn't gonna get out there. All right. That's it
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