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Live with The Joy Jolt: Nat and Sue Reinvent Your Purpose · The Joy Jolt Podcast

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  Susan Patrick and we're super excited to be hosting this
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  conversation today talking
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  about reinventing your life finding your purpose really living
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  into whatever
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  reality is next right yeah and it feels like I feel like a lot
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  of people a lot of
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  women are in this conversation at this phase of their life you
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  know it's like I
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  want to do something different I want to feel something
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  different I want to
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  SPEAKER_00: experience something different
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  and so want to talk about what that that is and the reinvention
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  of how do you do
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  SPEAKER_00: that from a space of joy,
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  SPEAKER_00: not a space of anxiety or depression,
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  SPEAKER_00: but like from a space of joy and expansion.
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  Yeah,
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  because that's exactly what we are doing right now in this very
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  moment.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I started small with my hair.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: the same hairstyle for, I don't know, 15 years.
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  SPEAKER_01: I used to change my hairstyle every year.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then,
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  SPEAKER_01: of course,
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  SPEAKER_01: with mind movies and,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: doing all the videos,
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  I used to do so many videos that I would keep just popping up
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  with different
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  SPEAKER_01: hairstyles.
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  SPEAKER_01: So they're like, okay, you need to keep one consistently, which I did.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, you know what, I'm ready for a change now.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think people
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  SPEAKER_00: I've only ever known you with one hairstyle.
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  And so when you were like,
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  Susan,
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  I'm going to do something different with my hair.
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  SPEAKER_00: I remember it was like a jarring feeling for me.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like what?
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  Like I just,
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  you know,
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  not going to crumble my life,
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  but still I think that it's interesting.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think like we as women feel that from our communities where
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  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes when we say we're going to make a change,
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  SPEAKER_00: it's not just that we have to deal with it inside of ourselves.
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  It's almost the ripple effect that it has on the people that we
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  care for and that
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  SPEAKER_00: are in our lives.
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  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I love your hair.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_01: And also the joy jolt.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean,
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  Susan and I had been talking about this and I had been getting
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  a little divine
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  SPEAKER_01: nudge and I am always looking for other ways that I can serve.
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  SPEAKER_01: As you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: with mind movies,
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  I've been teaching manifestation and positive mindset and
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  releasing limiting
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  SPEAKER_01: beliefs for about 18 years now.
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  SPEAKER_01: And for me, I like to stretch myself.
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  SPEAKER_01: And at this time of my life,
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm like,
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  SPEAKER_01: I can stretch myself,
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  SPEAKER_01: but I want to do something that's still within my wheelhouse.
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  SPEAKER_01: So when we started to devise what this was going to be,
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm like,
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  SPEAKER_01: okay,
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  SPEAKER_01: what are the things that I'm good at?
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  I'm really good at creating content I'm really good at
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  interviews You're super fun
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  to listen to I love listening to your voice These are the
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  things that I like to do
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  and I don't want to have to worry about all the technicalities
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  of setting up an
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  email thing and building a website which is again why we chose
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  Substack because all
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  of these speeches are already in the platform and so I could
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  just get to number one
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  SPEAKER_01: focus on what I'm good at
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  What I love to do And to do it with someone that I love And
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  that we can have fun
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  SPEAKER_00: And lots of joy Yeah,
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  yeah And this conversation for me It's interesting because
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  sometimes The idea of I
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  want to find my purpose I need to reinvent myself I find that
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  that conversation
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  Sometimes for me Can feel like I'm almost saying Negative
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  things to myself
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  SPEAKER_00: And I have,
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  SPEAKER_00: it's like,
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  SPEAKER_00: even though it sounds like a positive conversation out here,
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  SPEAKER_00: it's actually I'm kind of beating myself up back here.
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  SPEAKER_00: And there's like the undercurrent of that conversation,
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  SPEAKER_00: which is shoulda,
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  SPEAKER_00: coulda,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  so there's like that sense of I should be doing this or I
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  should be somewhere else,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: there's this.
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  So you have to look at kind of both sides of the conversation
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  and acknowledge them both as real.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  and then really get intentional about which side you're going
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  to pay attention to.
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  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because I'm more committed to my voice.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, go ahead.
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  SPEAKER_00: That voice can sound like common sense.
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  SPEAKER_01: Totally.
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  SPEAKER_01: It can sound like responsibility.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it can sound like, well, yeah, that makes sense.
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  SPEAKER_01: Of course, I don't want to be risking everything at this time of my life.
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  SPEAKER_01: Of course, I want to make sure that I'm not shirking my responsibilities.
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  SPEAKER_01: And all I can say is that if you have a voice like that, if it's not...
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  cheerleading you and pushing you further towards what it is
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  that you do want,
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  then it's time to kind of really sit down and assess what that
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  voice is or where
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  SPEAKER_01: that voice is coming from.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And okay, so let's do this.
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  You get to sit down and assess that voice,
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  but you don't need to sit and try to change it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right?
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  SPEAKER_00: So your job in this is not to change the mind of the voice.
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  Your job is to recognize it,
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  acknowledge it,
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  and then give yourself permission to pivot.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm going to say this,
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  pivot towards finding a way to be more playful because that
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  other voice is zero
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  SPEAKER_00: play,
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  SPEAKER_00: is zero levity.
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  So I think that part of the reinvention is the commitment to do
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  it in a way that's more playful.
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  yeah you know and that's huge I and I honestly and I know we
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  keep saying at this
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  time of life but seriously at this time of life we don't need I
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  think we've learned
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  the lesson that we don't need to hustle that we don't need to
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  um you know to really
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  SPEAKER_01: just be in there and just struggling all the time oh
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  because what happens in the struggle is that we focus on the
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  struggle and then all
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  SPEAKER_01: we're doing is creating more struggle.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, full stop.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we're restating, it's like recycling.
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  I think I'm particularly good at this is that I recycle the
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  story and I'm telling
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  SPEAKER_00: the story in a way that's taking my energy down instead of,
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  SPEAKER_00: because you can tell the story anyway.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  you can tell the story anyway and I think that sometimes we
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  fall in love with our
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  story and then we keep repeating the story and what I have a
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  friend of mine it's
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  her birthday today her name is Michelle LeMay and she has a
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  company called Elevate
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  Connect and she is just pure joy I just love being near her but
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  she is really good
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  at this she's like I just won't listen to that story I'm not
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  going to tell that
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  SPEAKER_00: story
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  you know and and and we even got in the car to go to a shoot
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  through a party
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  yesterday and we got in the car and she kind of looked at me
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  and she's like oh my
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  back I have a little twinge in my back and I was like you know
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  I just tell
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  everybody that you know that it's okay if you have a little bit
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  of pain and I was
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  like just tell everybody and she turned to me and she goes I'm
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  not gonna tell
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  anybody about that pain you know because and she it was so
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  amazing because she was
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  like I'm not gonna focus on it she's 64 years young 64 years
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  young is a yoga
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  SPEAKER_00: instructor and DJ
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think she danced longer than anybody else on the dance floor,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: and she kind of came back from that trip and she's just,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know what,
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  SPEAKER_00: my back didn't hurt.
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  SPEAKER_00: It hurt going in, but she didn't focus on that pain.
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  She was focusing on the pleasure and the fun that she was
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  excited about creating.
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  SPEAKER_00: And boy, what magnified.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  And it's about our frequency too so our words carry meaning but
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  they also carry
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  frequency as do our thoughts they're very closely connected so
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  when we're and we're
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  not saying to be to Pollyanna your situation you know we're not
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  talking about being
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  in denial because you know there are moments where you actually
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  have to acknowledge
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  all right this is a situation I've got these things going on
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  but when you're in a
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  SPEAKER_01: low frequency
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  your energy is low your emotions are low all that does is keep
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  you focusing on what
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  it is that you don't want to create more of yes yeah yeah so
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  you need to and I for
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  me I walk I get out I walk around the marina I put headphones
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  in but I don't listen
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  SPEAKER_01: to anything
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  SPEAKER_01: because I want to be in a place of mindfulness.
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  SPEAKER_00: Ooh, I like that technique.
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  So you put headphones in because that tells everyone else in
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  the world,
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  don't talk to me.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you let yourself just go inward into your frequency,
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  SPEAKER_00: into yourself,
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  SPEAKER_00: into like,
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  SPEAKER_00: that's so beautiful.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  And what I'm doing is I'm looking around me and I'm counting my
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  blessings.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I call it a gratitude walk.
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  and I'm like oh my god the sun beautiful and the marina and the
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  birds and the
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  beautiful people that live around here and it's very easy where
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  I live to go into
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  that mode but I have to shift my energy and then what I do is
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  I'll ask my guides
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  and I'm not quite sure who responds but I always when I'm in
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  that higher frequency
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  will go what are some suggestions what are some things that I
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  could do here and
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  SPEAKER_01: I'll often find that I have different kinds of ideas coming in
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  SPEAKER_01: and I instantly feel better.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, okay, I think I can figure this out.
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  I think I can move through this because there is always a
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  solution to every challenge.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's normally more than one solution to every challenge,
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  SPEAKER_01: but we have to create the space and the quietness.
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  SPEAKER_00: The just open yourself.
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  And ask the question so that we can have the answer and the
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  inspiration come back.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, huge, huge.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean,
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  SPEAKER_00: and I think that that for me is why,
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  SPEAKER_00: like,
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  SPEAKER_00: when I am in a low frequency,
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  SPEAKER_00: sometimes it takes a jolt,
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  SPEAKER_00: woo!
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, I have, you know, I watched this meme and I loved it.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was this woman and she was like, okay, repeat after me.
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  SPEAKER_00: Here, let's do it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, ready?
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  She goes,
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  ha,
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  ha,
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  ha,
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  ha,
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  ha,
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  ha,
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  ha,
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  ha,
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  ha,
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  ha,
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  ha,
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  ha,
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  ha,
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  ha,
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  ha,
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  ha,
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  ha.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I just,
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  I love the simplicity of that exercise that she was doing
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  because it was like the
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  SPEAKER_00: joy jolt is a walk,
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  SPEAKER_00: is an earplug,
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  SPEAKER_00: is a,
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  it's the recognition that you need to jolt yourself out of the
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  frequency that
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  you're in and pivot towards or project yourself towards the
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  better feeling.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that that's in your hands at all time.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  and I have to give credit to the headphone thing to our friend
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  Jeffrey Van Dyke I
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  saw him last week at a book signing and he channels so he gets
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  guidance come in and
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  he said they're saying that you need to walk without listening
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  with anything even
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  if you just put the headphones in and I'm like okay so I
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  started practicing that
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  SPEAKER_01: and that's helpful
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  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
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  SPEAKER_00: You're hearing it first.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was divinely given to you, Nat.
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  SPEAKER_00: There you go.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then you listened and you started to do the practice.
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  SPEAKER_00: It feels so good.
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  SPEAKER_00: It feels so good.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that Joy Jolt, I mean, that's what it is.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a jolt.
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  SPEAKER_00: You're putting it in.
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  SPEAKER_00: You're making an intentional pivot.
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  And so I want to go back to how that really contributes to
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  reinvention because I
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  SPEAKER_00: feel like there's a real
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  SPEAKER_00: It can feel really heavy and it can feel like a lot.
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  And I guess if there's anything that I want people who are
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  listening to this either
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  live or the recording to hear is the importance of committing
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  to stay in the
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  SPEAKER_00: reinvention from the place of joy,
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  SPEAKER_00: from the frequency of playfulness,
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  SPEAKER_00: from the frequency of just open yourself,
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  SPEAKER_00: joy,
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  SPEAKER_00: because that makes all the difference.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I think a lot of us are patterned.
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  We're patterned to create from the push and from the stress and
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  from the anxiety.
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  And it's like,
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  oh,
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  my God,
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  that's such an old way of doing it,
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  even though I'm getting older.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to use the old way.
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  SPEAKER_01: And the thing is, we're cutting ourselves off
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  from like a wealth of ideas and guidance and things that we
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  could never have come
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  SPEAKER_01: up with by ourselves.
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  SPEAKER_01: If we're forcing it and making sure that we have to do it ourselves.
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  We have to be able to just open ourselves so that we can be
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  open to the guidance.
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  SPEAKER_00: and that is so.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I was doing that yoga class.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'll go back to my experience yesterday.
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  And it was really interesting because she started this yoga
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  class with a meditation
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  SPEAKER_00: and she was asking you to really tap into your heart center.
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  SPEAKER_00: And she was like, choose an emotion of the heart.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: And she's like, there's no right or wrong.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just choose which one comes.
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  SPEAKER_00: And of course, what naturally came to me was joy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was, oh, joy, joy.
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  SPEAKER_00: What joyful heart.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like that's so up for me.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Joy.
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  SPEAKER_00: But then something deeper
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  SPEAKER_00: kind of called me in that moment.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it was trust.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it was so interesting for me to play with that word.
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  And it's that sense of,
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  I think that's what you're kind of talking about is like trust.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's within the joy, there's actually then trust in the process.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then you can really enjoy the unfolding.
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  SPEAKER_00: But when you're not at joy,
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  then you can't get to trust because you're the one who's trying
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  to force it.
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  and it was magical for me how that practice played out because
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  I kind of stressed
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  my knee in a different class that I was in and I am a
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  participator and I was front
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  row on my mat and I had the word trust and I was having a
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  delicious little
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  meditation but then all of a sudden I was told go to the back
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  of the class we
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  started doing some of the exercises I could feel my knee was a
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  little bit didn't
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  SPEAKER_00: hurt I could have muscled through but
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  SPEAKER_00: But I was like, trust.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I went to the back of the class.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that is totally a big deal for me.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because I like to participate and I like to finish.
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  SPEAKER_00: And no, I went to the back of the class.
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  SPEAKER_00: I didn't even finish the class.
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  SPEAKER_00: I did a few exercises and then I was told, go get in the pool.
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  SPEAKER_00: Go get in the pool.
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  And it was amazing to me how I was being,
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  it's like you said,
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  divinely guided.
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  And it was because she gave me that invitation to go into my
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  heart center to open up.
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  Of course,
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  joy was when it was there,
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  but there's something deeper in the reinvention.
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  SPEAKER_00: And your headphone thing speaks to me about that.
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  It's like once you plug into yourself,
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  then all of a sudden you can start trusting.
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  SPEAKER_00: But a lot of us are pushing so hard,
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  SPEAKER_00: are feeling the anxiety,
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  SPEAKER_00: the depression,
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  SPEAKER_00: that we're not giving ourselves permission to listen.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: If we were to recap everything that we've been talking about.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it sounds like,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  step number one is to get into that higher frequency and have a
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  practice of it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Not that you just, okay, I'm going to think about what I'm doing next.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I'm just going to move into happiness or contentment or joy.
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  SPEAKER_01: It wants to be a practice.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  You want to create space and ask the question and invite
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  guidance to come in.
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  SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
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  You also,
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  the next step would be to really think about,
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  well,
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  what is it that I love to do?
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  SPEAKER_00: What do I love doing?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, what gives me joy?
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  SPEAKER_01: And look at the components of it,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: and then go,
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  SPEAKER_01: okay,
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  SPEAKER_01: well,
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  SPEAKER_01: this is what I'd love to do.
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  SPEAKER_01: Who is it that I want to serve?
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  And here is another little thing that we haven't touched on yet
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  is how important it
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  SPEAKER_01: is the people that you have around you.
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  SPEAKER_01: because when I have a new idea,
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  I'll discuss it with a lot of different friends and I'll get a
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  lot of different
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  SPEAKER_01: takes on it and a lot of different pieces of advice.
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  SPEAKER_01: But it helps me to gauge, is this viable?
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  SPEAKER_01: Is this something we should do?
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  They'll give me some extra ideas that will come in as well so
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  it's not just the
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  divine I'm asking for guidance but also with some really
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  quality women that I have
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  SPEAKER_01: around me.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then lean in.
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  like when you're reinventing you don't have to like burn the
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  bridges lean into
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  something new try a little bit here you know like even with the
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  Joy Jolt our first
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  iteration was that explains a lot yeah we had a whole other it
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  was much more heady
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  right and we realized we really wanted to speak more into the
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  emotion and give
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  people permission you know and I want to tag into what you're
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  saying too is like
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  um that the reinvention it's not just about reinventing what
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  you're doing right
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  it's reinventing who you're being right yes right like that to
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  me is like it's it's
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  SPEAKER_00: really giving yourself permission to think about who you're being
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  how quickly I'm breathing,
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  the way that I wake up in the morning,
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  just my overall disposition.
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  SPEAKER_00: Am I squeezing joy out of and energy out of these areas of my life?
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  SPEAKER_00: Or am I still surrounding myself with this joy-sucking activity?
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  SPEAKER_00: Maybe let's make it this easy, okay?
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna make it so easy, because I like it easy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Me?
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  SPEAKER_00: I think I know where you're going with this.
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  I'm pretty easy I'm easy simple to figure out like that might
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  be the bottom line
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  for reinvention is that if it's a joy sucker yeah I need to
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  reinvent it right so if
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  it's not giving my being joy if I'm not walking away feeling a
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  little bit more
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  elevated we don't have to be like you know like that's not
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  sustainable you know joy
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  SPEAKER_00: is not just this up here emotion right joy is contentment
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  SPEAKER_00: Joy is peace.
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  SPEAKER_00: Joy is grounded.
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  SPEAKER_00: Joy is yummy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Joy is pleasure.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've taken to really touching myself.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's so taboo for women to talk about because it just sounds dirty.
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  SPEAKER_00: But it's not dirty.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like there's so much pleasure in touching my own hair.
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  You know,
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  and reinventing how I relate to this meat sack that I'm walking
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  around in.
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  SPEAKER_00: I spent a lot of my life kind of beating her up.
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  And boy,
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  there's probably gonna be a few more reasons I could beat her
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  up.
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  SPEAKER_00: It'd be easier to beat her up, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: But now really honoring, honoring her and feeling her.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like right now I'm just touching my knees.
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  Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, and just kind of holding myself.
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  SPEAKER_00: I want to be with myself differently.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  And who we're being at this time of our life will really help
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  you to see quickly
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  SPEAKER_01: what it is that you want to do.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_00: There you go.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_01: There you go.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's the key.
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  SPEAKER_01: Being in that high frequency,
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  SPEAKER_01: deciding who it is that you want to be,
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  SPEAKER_01: how you want to show up,
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  SPEAKER_01: how you want other people to see you.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then that will naturally lead into,
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_01: okay,
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  SPEAKER_01: well,
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  SPEAKER_01: these are the things that I would like to do.
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  SPEAKER_00: So maybe are we just relearning how to play?
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  is that what I'm hearing this is just like we've just as adults
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  forgotten how to
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  play we've forgotten how to play and have fun and and that
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  really is what I
• 19:35
  nobody's reinventing themselves because they want to be more
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  take themselves more
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  serious right nobody's reinventing themselves because they want
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  their life to be
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  harder yeah and what we're not also saying is that to do this
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  that you need to make
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  money out of it we're not saying that at all we're just talking
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  about reinventing
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  SPEAKER_01: who you are and who you're being
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  you may make money out of it you may not but as long as you're
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  doing something
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  that's bringing you joy yeah and you know part of our ethos
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  here at the Joy Jolt is
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  that we are that ripple of joy that we're sending out into the
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  universe absolutely
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  SPEAKER_01: absolutely you know how can you how can you do that how can you be that
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so we're going to be actually going into a deeper conversation.
• 20:19
  For those of you who are paid subscribers,
• 20:20
  Nat and I are going to continue this conversation.
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  I'm going to share the three words that I said over and over
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  and over and over and
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  SPEAKER_00: over again that have helped me to actually re
• 20:33
  We're kind of in this huge remodel to kind of help me hit my
• 20:36
  equilibrium with this
• 20:37
  huge remodel that we're doing of our house so that I could keep
• 20:40
  my sanity,
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_00: keep my joy,
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  SPEAKER_00: even in the midst of this remodel.
• 20:44
  So we're going to we're going to go a little bit deeper and
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  share some some of
• 20:47
  our kind of direct tactics for how do we keep our equilibrium
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  and our joy when
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_00: there is a lot of change in that reinvention process.
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  SPEAKER_01: So thank you for joining us.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_01: If you are listening to us on a platform that is not Substack,
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_01: There it is Bye now