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Saved by Siri! Boulder Rescue, Portland’s New Movie & Seattle Grocery Drama · The PNW Podcast

0:00
SPEAKER_01: Uh, Roosevelt Elk just decided it was ready for its cameo, and damn did it do a good job.
0:05
SPEAKER_01: Looked great out there, I gotta say.
0:06
SPEAKER_01: And let me tell you something about the elk right now.
0:09
SPEAKER_01: Uh, this time of the year, the elk are in what we call the rut.
0:13
SPEAKER_01: Those of us that have hunted our whole lives or know anything about these unjulate species, they are in the rut.
0:18
SPEAKER_01: What does that mean?
0:19
SPEAKER_01: They are no better than a 21-year-old frat boy with a pocket full of money and a wish that he's gonna go out and grab the prettiest girl at the bar and take her home that night.
0:29
SPEAKER_01: They don't care about humans, they don't care about automobiles, they care about one thing and it's on the back of a cow elk.
0:37
SPEAKER_01: That's all they're concerned about.
0:38
SPEAKER_01: And when it saw that love was in the air, it just figured I'm gonna go out there and see if there's any bridesmaids willing.
0:44
SPEAKER_01: That's all.
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SPEAKER_00: Marcus, there you are.
1:21
SPEAKER_00: Good to see you live from Eugene, Oregon.
1:25
SPEAKER_00: And we got a lot of stuff to get into here, buddy.
1:27
SPEAKER_00: Did you hear about um this guy who got stuck under a boulder in Warrington, Oregon?
1:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, man.
1:35
SPEAKER_01: Crazy story here.
1:37
SPEAKER_01: And then the fact that we even get to talk about this from the standpoint of this guy still breathing is amazing to me.
1:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's quite the 21st century situation.
1:47
SPEAKER_00: But before we get into it, where is Warrington for people who don't know where Warrington is?
1:51
SPEAKER_01: Warrington is a small coastal city up in Clatsop County.
1:55
SPEAKER_01: It's gonna be sitting a little bit south of Fort Stevens State Park, which, if you looked at the map of Oregon up by Astoria, there's just kind of a little nipple on Oregon that shoots out into the Pacific Ocean.
2:07
SPEAKER_01: And Warrington kind of sits on Highway 101, right at the base of that little nipple that shoots out into the Pacific.
2:13
SPEAKER_01: So it's gonna be just a little bit southwest of Astoria on 101.
2:18
SPEAKER_01: Um, one of the beautiful towns.
2:20
SPEAKER_01: There's a lot of elk out there, a lot of wildlife, uh, kind of right where the Columbia meets the Pacific.
2:26
SPEAKER_00: Well, what's wild about it is it seems like the guy got stuck under this boulder in Warrington on the North Oregon coast, and he was able to tell Siri to call for help.
2:38
SPEAKER_00: So he's trapped, he can't even do it himself.
2:40
SPEAKER_00: He tells Siri to do it, and police launched a drone that located him three minutes later.
2:47
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
2:48
SPEAKER_00: Three minutes.
2:49
SPEAKER_00: That response time is off the charts.
2:52
SPEAKER_00: And now I saw some cops probably about a year ago, and they had these epic drones, and they were up at the park and they were like trying to learn how to use them.
3:01
SPEAKER_00: And I kind of it was kind of comical at the time because you know, first time I ever had a drone, I I launched it, it went up, and then it flew directly into the back window of my car, crashed and broke.
3:12
SPEAKER_00: And that's kind of what it looked like when those cops did their first round of it, but they've clearly gotten better at it because to launch and find somebody in three minutes is pretty magical.
3:26
SPEAKER_01: It is.
3:26
SPEAKER_01: And it stands to reason why, if you're a licensed drone operator out there, you can make a lot of money doing contract work for various uh, you know, things like this.
3:36
SPEAKER_01: I'm sure if Warranton's police department doesn't have a drone operator, there's a guy that they contract to come out and fly these things because they can be very beneficial, especially in cases like this.
3:49
SPEAKER_01: And let's hear it for hands-free technology.
3:52
SPEAKER_01: I mean, we spent 15 years asking Siri to give us her best fart, and finally she saved somebody's life and we've got proof of it.
3:59
SPEAKER_01: Uh, this guy would not have been able to dial his phone.
4:02
SPEAKER_01: It doesn't look like if if it wasn't for Siri, who knows what we'd be talking about right now.
4:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, and I'm glad that it worked out for this guy because for me it would be, hey Siri, help me out.
4:14
SPEAKER_00: Which it's she's geeking right now.
4:16
SPEAKER_00: Just kidding, Siri.
4:18
SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
4:19
SPEAKER_00: Um, is about to call 911 over here.
4:23
SPEAKER_00: But as soon as I would ask that out in the wild, there'd be no signal, right?
4:28
SPEAKER_00: And if and it would start to misunderstand me, like, I need some help.
4:31
SPEAKER_00: You're like, the history of kelp.
4:34
SPEAKER_00: Like it wouldn't give it to me correctly as I'm getting squished.
4:38
SPEAKER_01: You'd be like, Siri, I'm six feet from the edge.
4:41
SPEAKER_01: She'd be like, playing Creed.
4:42
SPEAKER_01: And just yeah, it's uh and and I will say, look, I'm a Samsung guy.
4:50
SPEAKER_01: A lot of people know that about me.
4:51
SPEAKER_01: I've always had I've used iPhones over the years for various jobs.
4:55
SPEAKER_01: I've never been able to uh really develop a love for the iPhone like I have for my Samsung, but that's one thing iPhone definitely has that mine doesn't.
5:04
SPEAKER_01: I gotta talk to like Bixby or Google and they never pick it up.
5:08
SPEAKER_01: Like it's they it's just like nobody's there.
5:10
SPEAKER_01: You're calling and there's no answer, my ass would still be under that rock, Drew.
5:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'd be bleeding out in Warrington.
5:16
SPEAKER_00: Now, when they find you in three minutes, they're still gonna remove the boulder, right?
5:22
SPEAKER_00: Like when the thing pulls up to me and and gives a little snapshot or whatever, I'm gonna be real ex excited that somebody's around, but I know for a fact a drone can't pull a boulder off of me.
5:33
SPEAKER_00: Right.
5:33
SPEAKER_00: So I'm guessing they must have got a crew out there in relatively quick speed to get it done.
5:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think so.
5:40
SPEAKER_01: And and really kind of your worst nightmare here, if you're the person that likes to go out and maybe do a little bit of fishing on your own, get that real connection with nature and not have anybody talking to you or ruining the time.
5:52
SPEAKER_01: This dude had sat on this rock many times, several times, as the uh as the news report that I'm reading says.
5:58
SPEAKER_01: And he just felt it move a little bit, and the next thing you knew, he was trapped underneath of it, Drew.
6:03
SPEAKER_01: And it's really, I mean, if you're a guy that goes out there to fish several times and this is your rock, you're just like any of the rest of us, I'm going to my fishing hole.
6:12
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna sit on my rock and I'm gonna catch a fish and I'm gonna enjoy myself, you're never expecting tragedy like this to strike.
6:20
SPEAKER_01: And um, you know, being fortunate enough to have uh technology save you in the wilderness is a pretty crazy thing.
6:28
SPEAKER_01: Uh, but below the high tide water line here, Drew, which is where this guy was stuck, meaning that he had a finite amount of time for them to get him out of there before high tide was gonna come and take him, whether or not the rock did.
6:41
SPEAKER_01: So uh hats off to law enforcement and emergency responders here, because moving a boulder is no um no slim feat.
6:49
SPEAKER_01: And it's not like they can't just they can't just roll it off of him.
6:52
SPEAKER_01: Like, here, I'm just gonna give this, that'd be like spinning Dante Moore around to check his backside after he took that hit.
6:57
SPEAKER_01: You got to be really careful here.
6:59
SPEAKER_01: And this guy survived.
7:01
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I really just a phenomenal story.
7:04
SPEAKER_01: If you've seen some of the pictures, like I'm looking at a drone picture right now, Drew, and this dude is nothing but shoulders and arms outside of a boulder that looks like it could be the size of a Geo Metro.
7:16
SPEAKER_00: So he was fully squished.
7:18
SPEAKER_00: Now, it this is a warning, though, to anybody, whether you're along the oceanside or a river bank, what we all know is with high tide and low tide, and also with winter flow versus summer flow of a river, the the water changes all the time when it comes to its height and how it affects the rocks on the side.
7:41
SPEAKER_00: Anytime you've tried to walk up the bed of a river, you get humbled 50 times by trying to step on a rock that flips out, and your ankle rolls, and your shorts get wet, and oh man, I drop the beer.
7:53
SPEAKER_00: Like all the stuff happens to you when you try and walk up a river.
7:57
SPEAKER_00: Same thing with when you go up to a quote unquote rock that has always been secure for you.
8:03
SPEAKER_00: Well, the ocean's even more aggressive because every day water affects the rock.
8:08
SPEAKER_00: So while it might be heavy enough to withstand it most days, I think that it's one of those things where you need to check the rock every day to make sure that it's secure for you.
8:19
SPEAKER_00: And now, it probably felt secure until he got to the edge of it, and maybe the the water had eroded out from under it, and all it takes is a little whoop and you find yourself in an Indiana Jones situation behind the boulder.
8:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and and something to kind of note here, Drew, is this is the Pacific Northwest, okay?
8:38
SPEAKER_01: It is different.
8:39
SPEAKER_01: You hear beaches and you think Southern California, Santa Monica, long uh narrow slope, or excuse me, uh shallow sloping, beautiful sandy beaches and sunsets.
8:50
SPEAKER_01: The Oregon Coast, the Washington coast, is not a friendly beach.
8:55
SPEAKER_01: It is rugged, it is dangerous.
8:57
SPEAKER_01: And in a lot of places on Highway 101, uh there is no beach.
9:01
SPEAKER_01: You just look down at a sheer 300-foot cliff with water that looks like it's boiling because it's so angry down there, when in fact, it'll give you hypothermia in a heartbeat if you're in it for too long.
9:14
SPEAKER_01: Um, this is just part of what the Oregon coastline is and what the Washington coastline is and can be.
9:20
SPEAKER_01: Um, and you gotta be careful out there.
9:23
SPEAKER_01: You never know.
9:23
SPEAKER_01: I don't, and I'm not taking anything away from this guy's experience.
9:27
SPEAKER_01: I'm sure he's very experienced.
9:28
SPEAKER_01: I'm sure this was a fluke accident based on what I'm reading.
9:32
SPEAKER_01: But I think this goes to illustrate that that's the type of terrain we're dealing with on the Oregon coast, whether you like it or not.
9:38
SPEAKER_01: There's a reason that people aren't going out in uh Astoria and and, you know, kind of that Tillamook area and doing a lot of surfing or a lot of water sports out there.
9:48
SPEAKER_01: That stuff happens down south where it planes out a little bit.
9:51
SPEAKER_01: You're gonna see that down in the southern reaches of Oregon, um, Gold Beach and Brookings and that.
9:57
SPEAKER_01: There's some stuff, but it's still pretty rugged down there.
10:00
SPEAKER_01: And the forest goes right to the waterline.
10:03
SPEAKER_01: So uh a lot of stuff can happen.
10:06
SPEAKER_01: Always respect the water.
10:07
SPEAKER_01: I don't care if you're on a lake, a river, the ocean, or you've just crossed a stream in the forest.
10:13
SPEAKER_01: The water can kill you, the coastline can kill you, everything around you can kill you out here.
10:17
SPEAKER_01: So be careful.
10:18
SPEAKER_00: And it's one of those things where our water, and don't get it twisted, we do think it can be beautiful.
10:24
SPEAKER_00: The beach can be beautiful, but it also is ever changing.
10:27
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
10:28
SPEAKER_00: You know, the beach that I normally go to is different every time you go there.
10:32
SPEAKER_00: Whether it's the amount of logs and debris that have washed up, or sometimes there's a cliff built in from high waters to sometimes it's smooth and wonderful, sometimes it's rocky and aggressive.
10:46
SPEAKER_00: It's always changing because it's not Southern California, it's not Cabo, it's an aggressive ocean moving in the northern part of our country where it does manipulate the coastline and it it deserves respect.
11:00
SPEAKER_00: As far as beauty's concerned, though, Marcus, did you see the viral video at Cannon Beach?
11:06
SPEAKER_00: Did you see that elk?
11:07
SPEAKER_00: Is it an elk?
11:08
SPEAKER_00: You you're the expert.
11:09
SPEAKER_01: Yes, it was an elk photo bombing a wedding out there at Cannon Beach.
11:13
SPEAKER_01: Maybe one of the most beautiful scenescapes that we have in this state uh is Cannon Beach.
11:19
SPEAKER_01: And yeah, uh Roosevelt Elk just decided it was ready for its cameo, and damn did it do a good job.
11:25
SPEAKER_01: Looked great out there, I gotta say.
11:27
SPEAKER_00: It sure did.
11:28
SPEAKER_00: And and what's what shows how beautiful it is with the backdrop of is it Haystock Rock right there and the and the whole deal?
11:37
SPEAKER_00: And the internet, especially everybody inland, is just calling it AI.
11:42
SPEAKER_00: They're just like, that's AI, they that's AI, like there's no way, it's impossible, too big, too beautiful, too much, too perfect of a setting.
11:49
SPEAKER_00: Well, that is why Cannon Beach is one of the best places in the world, is that's it doesn't need AI to be gorgeous.
11:57
SPEAKER_01: And let me tell you something about the elk right now.
11:59
SPEAKER_01: Uh, this time of the year, the elk are in what we call the rut.
12:04
SPEAKER_01: Those of us that have hunted our whole lives or know anything about these unjulate species, they are in the rut.
12:09
SPEAKER_01: What does that mean?
12:10
SPEAKER_01: They are no better than a 21-year-old frat boy with a pocket full of money and a wish that he's gonna go out and grab the prettiest girl at the bar and take her home that night.
12:20
SPEAKER_01: They don't care about humans, they don't care about automobiles, they care about one thing and it's on the back of a cow elk.
12:27
SPEAKER_01: That's all they're concerned about.
12:28
SPEAKER_01: And when it saw that love was in the air, it just figured, I'm gonna go out there and see if there's any bridesmaids, willing.
12:34
SPEAKER_01: That's all.
12:35
SPEAKER_01: Um, there they really do get into a different mindset this year where people don't bother them.
12:41
SPEAKER_01: They're looking to propagate the species, Drew.
12:43
SPEAKER_01: And uh, like I said, love was in the air.
12:45
SPEAKER_01: What better place to uh to hook up than at a wedding?
12:48
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's absolutely and get a couple appetizers.
12:51
SPEAKER_00: I'm sure they were grabbing a bacon wrap date and a little mimosa, it'd be nice.
12:55
SPEAKER_00: Maybe some smoked salmon right there on the coast.
12:57
SPEAKER_00: I mean that sounds perfect.
12:59
SPEAKER_00: And now, you guys were out on a hunt over the weekend um outside of Enterprise, Oregon.
13:05
SPEAKER_00: You and you guys ran into an animal that isn't seen very often.
13:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, crazy stuff, Drew.
13:11
SPEAKER_01: Uh my dad was fortunate enough to uh fill a tag and he shot a piebald elk, is what they're called this uh in this season.
13:19
SPEAKER_01: And I didn't know anything about this.
13:21
SPEAKER_01: It's a genetic mutation where an elk, which is typically various shades of kind of brown and tan, uh maybe even a little bit getting white towards the back end of them.
13:30
SPEAKER_01: Uh, but this elk had it looked like an Appaloosa horse, if you've ever seen one, which kind of they call those sometimes paint horses, where it looks like somebody's thrown a white bucket of paint on a very nicely colored, you know, brown animal.
13:43
SPEAKER_01: And from what I understand, I talked to my cousin who's a wildlife biologist up in Washington state.
13:49
SPEAKER_01: Uh, these elk, this genetic mutation only occurs one in every 250,000 head of elk.
13:56
SPEAKER_01: And I've been hunting for over 30 years.
13:59
SPEAKER_01: I've seen thousands of elk, uh, you know, whether at a distance or up close, um, trying to spot herds across canyons and seeing hundreds of head of elk walk across the a hillside that I'll never be able to get to.
14:12
SPEAKER_01: Never once in my life, never once in my dad's 50 years of hunting or any of his four brothers' 50 plus years of hunting has any of us ever seen a genetic mutation like this.
14:23
SPEAKER_01: So it was a real lottery ticket day for us out there.
14:26
SPEAKER_01: And uh the day before, I was able to fill my tag as well.
14:29
SPEAKER_01: So I'm happy to report to you, Drew, that meat is back on the menu for the tailgate.
14:34
SPEAKER_01: We will be enjoying some elk uh whenever you come down to party with us for a duck game this year.
14:39
SPEAKER_00: Well, that's that's a good way to get us to victory.
14:42
SPEAKER_00: Stuff we know from a history of doing it at the tailgate.
14:46
SPEAKER_00: Uh, does this genetic mutation, and you probably won't know until you eat it, does it affect flavor or anything else, or is it just the look?
14:54
SPEAKER_01: It's just the look.
14:55
SPEAKER_01: Uh, it's a very, very, very recessive trait.
14:58
SPEAKER_01: The I I can say this the the animal that I shot would have easily fit into the carcass of the animal that my dad shot with room to spare for a carry-on.
15:09
SPEAKER_01: Um and so the one that my dad took down was very big, very healthy, quite possibly one of the biggest animals on the hill, even though there were a bunch of bulls there as well.
15:18
SPEAKER_01: These these were cow tags, these were what we call damage tags.
15:22
SPEAKER_01: Uh the cows are out, or excuse me, the elk are out eating all of the alfalfa in the farmers' fields, and the farmers need to finish their cattle so that uh they can eat that alfalfa, get all nice and fat, and head off to market.
15:35
SPEAKER_01: Uh, but there's not enough alfalfa in the fields because the elk are there right now.
15:39
SPEAKER_01: So they issue these damage tags.
15:41
SPEAKER_01: People that did not draw a tag can go out there and purchase one, and you have to hunt very specific areas.
15:47
SPEAKER_01: Uh, but we were able to thin the herd just a little bit and uh and and shoot something that probably most elk hunters will never see in their life in the process.
15:56
SPEAKER_01: So uh I gotta say, high fives all around.
15:59
SPEAKER_01: We uh we had them on the ground before 8 a.m.
16:01
SPEAKER_01: both mornings.
16:02
SPEAKER_01: Uh we were done and at junior high football games and 14-year-old birthday parties before uh it was even uh daybreak or uh excuse me, uh uh what do I want to call it?
16:12
SPEAKER_01: Dusk outside.
16:13
SPEAKER_01: So awesome weekend all the way around.
16:15
SPEAKER_01: Can't tell you how much fun it was.
16:17
SPEAKER_01: And uh buy a lottery ticket kind of day for my dad for sure.
16:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, hats off to him for getting that done, and I can't wait for a bowl of that um that genetically modified chili.
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SPEAKER_00: Thunder from down under chili, you know it.
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19:06
SPEAKER_00: Oh man, I just I just opened my phone and there was a black and white picture of Mr.
19:11
SPEAKER_00: Belding.
19:12
SPEAKER_00: Something didn't happen to Mr.
19:13
SPEAKER_00: Belding, did it?
19:14
SPEAKER_01: Mr.
19:15
SPEAKER_01: Belding succumbed to his battle with Parkinson's, I believe, Drew.
19:19
SPEAKER_01: He has passed away at the age of 75, unfortunately.
19:22
SPEAKER_01: The Balding Eagle?
19:24
SPEAKER_01: Yep, yep.
19:25
SPEAKER_01: And I, you know, I heard something about him the other day that really shocked me to my core.
19:30
SPEAKER_01: We grew up with Saved by the Bell, and we always looked at Belding as the old man, the, the, the guy that was always a curmudgeon and always getting in the way of all the antics.
19:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he was like in his late, mid to late 30s during Safe by the Bell's run, even with that skirted egg that he was rocking.
19:46
SPEAKER_01: Um I I can't believe that I am older than Mr.
19:49
SPEAKER_01: Belding ever was during the Save by the Bell days, Drew, and I refuse to believe it, uh, but may he rest in peace.
19:55
SPEAKER_01: Obviously, big part of the childhood there.
19:57
SPEAKER_01: Uh, I always loved how they would make Mr.
19:59
SPEAKER_01: Belding the villain, and then they would afterwards turn him into the good guy on Save by the Bell, who always had a lesson to teach you.
20:07
SPEAKER_01: So uh R.I.P.
20:08
SPEAKER_01: to him for sure.
20:10
SPEAKER_00: Oh man, I loved that show.
20:12
SPEAKER_00: Now I do know that Belding was seen out and about in Las Vegas a lot in his in the later years.
20:18
SPEAKER_00: Like that guy knew how to have a good time, and so don't get it twisted that he played a stiff on TV.
20:24
SPEAKER_00: He was a good time.
20:25
SPEAKER_00: Um, but I was so into the show that when I was a kid in sixth grade and actually seventh grade in particular, because I would walk home from junior high school and I knew that I was gonna catch four episodes, two on one on one channel, and then two on WGN.
20:45
SPEAKER_00: So it was like TBS and WGN had two and two.
20:48
SPEAKER_00: So I'd watch four episodes of Save by the Bell every day.
20:52
SPEAKER_00: And at that point in my life, I was like the new kid at my school, and so it was like the one time where you're like kind of scampering to like, who am I?
21:00
SPEAKER_00: Do I have any friends?
21:01
SPEAKER_00: Like, what it what am I at this school?
21:03
SPEAKER_00: And Zach Morris was my hero, and his chase of Kelly Kapowski and the the hunt for love was always I was always team Zach and not Team Slater and the whole deal.
21:15
SPEAKER_00: Like, and to hear that we've lost him today, this was not on the docket.
21:19
SPEAKER_00: We were not going to mention Mr.
21:21
SPEAKER_00: Belding.
21:22
SPEAKER_00: It has nothing to do with the Pacific Northwest, other than I won't think I would even be the person I am today without that show.
21:29
SPEAKER_00: I used to love that so much.
21:32
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm just I'm thinking about all my favorite episodes right now, and I could go eat, I could go drink a milkshake at the max right now.
21:39
SPEAKER_01: You know, I was always a Team Slater guy after he finally got off the whole Jesse train and started chasing after Kelly Kapowski as well.
21:46
SPEAKER_01: That's when I became Team Slater.
21:48
SPEAKER_01: It's like, I don't know why you're going after this Jesse chick with her diet pills.
21:51
SPEAKER_01: She's got a screw loose.
21:52
SPEAKER_01: Kelly Kapowski seems like she's got it going on.
21:54
SPEAKER_01: He finally figured that out sometime in the run there.
21:57
SPEAKER_01: Uh, but you know, if you've never seen The uh the Zach Morris' trash videos on on YouTube.
22:03
SPEAKER_01: It's so funny how stuff doesn't hold up or doesn't feel like what it was when we were watching it back in the day, but uh a lot of memories from the Save by the Bell days, man.
22:13
SPEAKER_01: And I will tell you this when Jesse won me over is when Striptease came out.
22:17
SPEAKER_01: I'll be very unlikely.
22:18
SPEAKER_00: Oh my goodness.
22:19
SPEAKER_00: Well, let's go back to her other greatest performance, which is the episode with the diet pills, where Zach comes in and she's trying to be in the dance and singing group that Zach's the manager of, and she does the I'm so excited! I'm so excited, I'm so scared.
22:36
SPEAKER_00: And that that was her big moment.
22:38
SPEAKER_00: But what I will tell you, Marcus, is I watched like a behind the scenes on all of that.
22:44
SPEAKER_00: The original script for that episode, which is the most famous Say by the Bell episode of all time, was that Jesse was doing cocaine in her life.
22:54
SPEAKER_00: The original script for that morning weekend show, which ended up getting rerun in the afternoons for us, but it was like Saturday morning cartoons into Save by the Bell.
23:04
SPEAKER_00: Jesse was supposed to do below, and they at the last second they were like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, we we can't do that.
23:11
SPEAKER_00: We're gonna shelf it.
23:12
SPEAKER_00: And they're like, Well, how about diet pills?
23:14
SPEAKER_00: And that's why she's so manic because the the whole thing is kind of like already set in motion.
23:20
SPEAKER_00: It's like, well, just switch it out for the diet pills.
23:23
SPEAKER_00: Well, she went deep end.
23:25
SPEAKER_01: She was I wonder if she was method acting, Drew.
23:28
SPEAKER_01: I because it was a very convincing performance.
23:30
SPEAKER_01: And I also wonder what the Saturday morning uh TV show would have looked like if she was ripping lines instead of just taking diet pills out of a pill bottle.
23:39
SPEAKER_01: It would have been a different look.
23:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, just a little bit different.
23:43
SPEAKER_00: I had no idea.
23:44
SPEAKER_00: I learned something today.
23:46
SPEAKER_00: Well, when it comes to show business, something else for you to keep an eye on.
23:50
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if you guys got any concerts coming up or you're gonna find your way up to the Portland area, but there is a movie being filmed in Portland right now called Egg Baby.
24:01
SPEAKER_00: Egg baby?
24:02
SPEAKER_00: Well, I think I should probably explain.
24:04
SPEAKER_00: Egg baby is about two people who were tasked in school of raising an egg baby, kind of like you're in health class and you'd have a fake baby.
24:13
SPEAKER_00: Well, the egg is you're supposed to take care of it with tender love and care.
24:17
SPEAKER_00: Right.
24:17
SPEAKER_00: And so they're raising an egg uh baby.
24:19
SPEAKER_00: Now, the movie stars a couple of different people.
24:24
SPEAKER_00: You've got Michelle Rodriguez is in this movie, Ariana Greenblatt, and Gene Smart.
24:31
SPEAKER_00: I had to look up who Gene Smart is, and I have to apologize because she's incredible.
24:36
SPEAKER_00: She played um an I Tanya, the Tanya Harding movie.
24:39
SPEAKER_00: She played the mom.
24:40
SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
24:41
SPEAKER_00: Gotcha.
24:42
SPEAKER_00: Know exactly who you're talking about.
24:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and and she's got skills, and she was just in another big uh show recently, forgetting what it is off the top of my head, but there's some decent people there, and they said that they've seen a couple of them around town.
24:57
SPEAKER_00: Now, they don't release scheduling, obviously, for safety reasons for them, but it'd be kind of cool if you were just cruising around getting a bagel and you ran into a major motion picture.
25:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for sure.
25:07
SPEAKER_01: And I bet Michelle Rodriguez is gonna be driving a hot car.
25:10
SPEAKER_01: If her history in Fast and the Furious means anything to her, she's gonna be cruising around in something fast and cool looking.
25:17
SPEAKER_01: So keep your eyes out.
25:18
SPEAKER_01: And I'm really glad, Drew, when you just gave me the name, Egg Baby, my mind immediately went to Tusk.
25:25
SPEAKER_01: Like, is this a mad scientist film where we're gonna have a person make a baby in an egg and it's gonna hatch and they're gonna have to sit on it?
25:32
SPEAKER_01: So glad to hear that it's more of a callback to our high schools.
25:35
SPEAKER_01: Uh, we didn't have the egg where you had the partner and you had to keep it.
25:39
SPEAKER_01: We all got our own egg and we had to keep it alive for a week, Drew.
25:43
SPEAKER_01: And kind of the dark draconian part of this whole thing was that after that week, we were then tasked with trying to build a vessel that we could throw the egg off of our balcony onto the gym floor and have it survive, which nobody's ever did.
25:59
SPEAKER_01: For like years, nobody was able to do it.
26:02
SPEAKER_01: It's like a 20-foot drop.
26:04
SPEAKER_01: And so it was kind of like we raised our egg baby and then we threw it off of a cliff, which was very, very strange.
26:11
SPEAKER_01: Not sure what lessons I learned, other than just be careful with eggs.
26:15
SPEAKER_00: Interesting lesson for a group of future parents.
26:18
SPEAKER_00: Well, no matter how it goes, just toss them off the edge at the end.
26:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you can hand them a bag to jump with.
26:24
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you're likely going to be scrambled upon, you know, the ground, but my egg was awful in the egg drop.
26:31
SPEAKER_00: We didn't have like the week leading up.
26:33
SPEAKER_00: We just had the egg drop, and I remember I took mine up there and it just fell right through its casing.
26:39
SPEAKER_00: I had tried to use like plastic straws, and so like I had a ton of plastic straws like pushed into this egg with like rubber bands, and it just collapsed the bottom, and the thing just went.
26:54
SPEAKER_01: One of my best friends thought he could get uh a little bit um uh creative, Drew.
26:59
SPEAKER_01: And you know, they'd let you dress them up, you're you're gluing different clothes to them and everything like that.
27:03
SPEAKER_01: Um, his had a little tiny hairline crack in it, and he decided to take a needle and poke up into that crack, and he was only able to drain the white of the egg out, and then he covered it with some clothing or something like that.
27:15
SPEAKER_01: And I remember the smell in our classroom because sooner or later an egg kept at room temperature with the yolk still inside of it is going to rot, and it did, and that was how he was finally discovered was like, either you need to take a shower, son, or let me see that egg with nothing on it.
27:33
SPEAKER_01: And sure enough, he didn't even get to throw his off the balcony because that thing had been dead for days.
27:40
SPEAKER_01: Hey, it's worth the try.
27:42
SPEAKER_01: It's it's a creative move in the end.
27:44
SPEAKER_01: It had a very weak end at Bernie's feel, but for something you were supposed to be raising like a child, which is brings in just a whole other set of problems.
27:51
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, I mean, I I gotta tip my cap to him.
27:54
SPEAKER_00: He tried more than I would have done.
27:56
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
27:57
SPEAKER_00: Well, I got one last thing for you before we go, Marcus.
28:00
SPEAKER_00: Um, the state of Washington and Seattle in particular, working on some a new law that would make it illegal for grocery stores to use AI to figure out who you are in order to manipulate prices based on your buying history.
28:19
SPEAKER_00: And it's something, and I know that sounds nuts, but it is kind of mimicked after the surge pricing of Uber and some of these other things, airlines or um the expedias of the world who know you're looking for a trip, and so they beef up all trips to Cabo or Las Vegas or wherever you've been searching.
28:39
SPEAKER_00: Um, and this would make it illegal for when Marcus walks into the grocery store, you know that he's gonna go and get this specific drink.
28:49
SPEAKER_00: And when you go over to get it, it's a more expensive price than when I go over to get it because they're trying to entice me to buy it and they know that you're a creature of habit and are going to buy it.
29:00
SPEAKER_00: Do you think this should be illegal?
29:02
SPEAKER_01: I I really uh, you know, I hate red tape, Drew.
29:05
SPEAKER_01: I hate that the fact that every single time something like this happens, we can't just come together as humans and decide for the greater good that this is not the way it should be, and we should um maybe give each other a little grace for this type of stuff and mean billionaires in the world don't need my extra pennies.
29:20
SPEAKER_01: Uh, but you already have enough information about me.
29:24
SPEAKER_01: I have my little card that I scan at Fred Meyer every time I shop there.
29:28
SPEAKER_01: And it, yeah, it earns me some uh some, you know, maybe a dime off my fuel every month.
29:33
SPEAKER_01: Thanks for that.
29:33
SPEAKER_01: It really helps.
29:34
SPEAKER_01: Uh, but you know what I'm buying, and I know that because the coupons show up in the mail.
29:39
SPEAKER_01: And what do the coupons have?
29:41
SPEAKER_01: Basically a shopping list of all the things that I've bought over the last month.
29:45
SPEAKER_01: And thanks for the uh for the leg up there.
29:48
SPEAKER_01: But again, saving 30 cents on cherry tomatoes uh does not a windfall make uh for this guy, anyway.
29:55
SPEAKER_01: So I think you've got enough.
29:57
SPEAKER_01: I think with all of the uh security cameras and everything like that, too.
30:00
SPEAKER_01: You already know who's in the store.
30:02
SPEAKER_01: We put a robot behind it, and all of a sudden price the there's digital price tags in stores that I shop in right now.
30:08
SPEAKER_01: So what's stopping them from detecting me getting close to my pink monsters that I love so much and jacking up the price by a buck fifty?
30:16
SPEAKER_01: That ain't fair.
30:17
SPEAKER_01: I mean, come on, I'm patronizing your establishment.
30:20
SPEAKER_01: You're gonna find me down at my least favorite place in the world, which is Saturday Market, um, here in Eugene, if you start doing stuff like that, because I know those guys will sell me wilted lettuce, but wilted lettuce at a fair price.
30:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, at the same price as everyone else.
30:34
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
30:34
SPEAKER_00: I think it what worries me is it opens the door for discrimination and not just like based on, you know, race and and sex and all these other things, but also economic status.
30:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
30:47
SPEAKER_00: I don't think it's fair that if I say I have a successful business and I roll in and it knows that I'll pay more for bread because I don't care and I'm able to swipe my card, but then the next guy who worked his ass off all day is gonna go in there and, you know, granted, it would be nice if he got a better deal, but it at my peril, like that's what I don't understand is lettuce should be lettuce, eggs should be eggs, and it shouldn't matter who has what status, because when you start deciding who gets it and who doesn't, that's when it becomes unfair because who's the governing body on that?
31:26
SPEAKER_00: Is that the safeways of the world, the market of choices that get to come in and decide that I'm gonna pay more for couscous than Marcus is?
31:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and and furthermore, what type of ripples does this send across our capitalistic economy, Drew?
31:42
SPEAKER_01: I mean, largely prices rise and fall with supply and demand, right?
31:46
SPEAKER_01: They don't rise and fall because my ass walked into the store.
31:50
SPEAKER_01: Um, and and why is it how would you even control prices if everybody did this?
31:56
SPEAKER_01: Let's let's say it's wholesale tomorrow, snap of the finger, every store has the AI that's going to adjust prices as you walk through.
32:03
SPEAKER_01: Well, then what is the market price of eggs anymore?
32:06
SPEAKER_01: You don't have a market price of eggs.
32:08
SPEAKER_01: You can't determine that.
32:09
SPEAKER_01: You can only determine the market price of eggs for subsets of people, which is where your discrimination uh angle starts to come in and look really bad, by the way.
32:19
SPEAKER_01: Really, really bad if this is a wholesale change that everybody adopts hypothetically.
32:24
SPEAKER_01: So um, I don't think, look, responsible usage of AI, self-policing, not being greedy, all these things are gonna matter a lot to us as we continue to move into the age of AI because people are gonna be able to manipulate it and do a lot of bad things with it.
32:41
SPEAKER_01: This sort of sounds like a bad thing to me, Drew.
32:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't mind about the AI when they're like, okay, we've done our research, we have the cameras in here.
32:48
SPEAKER_00: People are more likely to pull off of the third shelf and the shelf below it.
32:53
SPEAKER_00: And they're more likely to get things when it's in a well-lit area and say it's like produces wet rather than something that's more dimly lit.
33:02
SPEAKER_00: Those types of things are fine.
33:03
SPEAKER_00: That's a standard business practice.
33:05
SPEAKER_00: But when you're going to separate us, and the last thing I'll say about it really is if I come in to get gas, it shouldn't be a different price if I pull up in a Mercedes-Benz or pull up in a pinto.
33:17
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
33:17
SPEAKER_00: Gas is gas.
33:18
SPEAKER_00: I'm purchasing it with real money.
33:21
SPEAKER_00: And it's not like it has different value.
33:23
SPEAKER_00: My money's worth what your money is.
33:25
SPEAKER_00: I might have less of it, which is fine, but it's worth whatever I have is worth what yours is.
33:31
SPEAKER_01: And for uh just another point here, if you do drive in in a pinto, you should get a little bit of money off gas because you've kept that Ford Pinto on the road for all these last 30 or 40 years.
33:41
SPEAKER_01: You deserve a leg up at the gas pump, my friend.
33:44
SPEAKER_01: I don't even want to know what that oil pan looks like.
33:47
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
33:48
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
33:48
SPEAKER_00: That is a nightmare at an oil can, Henry.
33:51
SPEAKER_00: All right, Marcus, uh, nice seeing you every Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, new episodes for you.
33:56
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34:00
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34:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're not the prettiest, but we put up a video every single time.
34:18
SPEAKER_00: Have a great day, Marcus.
34:20
SPEAKER_00: You too, Drew.
34:21
SPEAKER_00: Cheers.