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Scoopin Poop · The Pork Roll, Egg, And Cheese Podcast

• Shamus: Hello everybody and welcome to another episode of the pork roll egg and cheese podcast. My name is Seamus and today we have two very special guests for you. Actually. One of the reasons why I thought we should start a podcast because I am so intrigued and interested in this line of work that it's almost ridiculous. Why don't you guys go ahead and introduce yourselves. Herbie: And I am Herb. Yeah, this is cool, and I've been waiting for this. Andrew: So my name is Andrew and we own scooper heroes. Barry: And I'm Barry. Shamus: Okay, why don't you go ahead and before we get into your business, tell me a little bit about yourselves Andrew: Well, I mean, him and I have been friends for since we were three years old. live two, three, whatever. We grew up across three from each other. ⁓ We always did things like this together with, you know, different things of shoveling snow and trying to cut grass and things like that when we were little. And then about what was that during the. Barry: but who's counting? Herbie: Hahaha! Andrew: Right before the pandemic hit, we started a promotional product and apparel business with, ⁓ it was called 609 Designs. ⁓ I have a small background in ⁓ graphic design as well, so we started doing that kind of stuff. And then the pandemic hit and it crushed us because every soccer mom that had the ability to buy a cricket put us out of business essentially, because they could do one t-shirt at a time and that just kind of faltered. He hit me up in November of 24 with this idea to start a subscription based pooper scooper service and I had come up with the idea and posed it to him. He swears I didn't but I did. Barry: 2024. remember he says he brought it up to me I'm like that's so dumb no one will ever do that I don't want to do that right it was like all right fine we won't Andrew: He told me I was nuts. It was like five years ago. It like right after the pandemic hit and after our last business kind of just went by the wayside. ⁓ I was like, all right, whatever. So I hit up another one of my buddies who I'm very close with. And I was like, here's the idea. And he was like, you're nuts. I'm not doing that. You'll never get anybody to do that. ⁓ No. I was like, all right, well, maybe I am nuts. ⁓ and I just let it go. And then he hit me up in November and he was like, we got to do this. I'm like, yep, let's do it. And we hit the ground running. and started everything up and got everything going and we started what? Like was January of 25 when we got our first. Barry: That was our first customer. Yeah, no idea how to do it. And we put an ad out there on Facebook or something and somebody signed up. like, all right, now what do we do? How do we figure this out? So it kind of just snowballed from there. We kind of learned the business as we went along. And yeah, we actually are pretty decent size at this point. Shamus: Well, I was going to say when you guys first started there, there wasn't really a blueprint for it. mean, because this thing is really taken off in like the last couple of years. Like when I was a kid, they didn't have it. Like this something like pandemic based just kind of took off. So there wasn't really like what were some of the obstacles or problems that you guys dealt with like right from rip? Well, maybe not problems, but like some of the things that you're like, OK, maybe we should think this way or that way or. Or was it just like, hey, we're here, scoop poop. This is the price and we're. Andrew: I mean, he's always wanted to keep it that way, which has been like our bread and butter from the beginning. I always try to think of something like to change it, to make us stand out from others, because there are a couple others, quite a few others. Shamus: ⁓ this thing's exploding. Yeah, it's getting pretty big. Andrew: But in the, excuse me, in the beginning, yeah, we just, that was it. We showed up. mean, it was still all we do, show up, scoop and leave. Shamus: Do you guys have like a guideline for pricing? is the size of the yard, size of the dog, how many dogs? Barry: Yeah, there was a there's some guy out in like Seattle who was doing it and like, all right, this guy seems to be doing it right. So we kind of followed his model and we actually got in touch with him and he helped us really get off the ground a little bit here. That's cool. We're still in touch with him today. And yeah, it's it's really helped out. So without him, honestly, we would probably make a lot more mistakes than we did. But yeah. Herbie: So what's like the parameters and like, like what's like the basic model like, you know, like if you have a customer, if you come to a customer's house, like what's like your, your pricing and stuff. Barry: Well, Andrew's kind of memorized the price at this point. Andrew: Pricing is all based upon the amount of dogs you have and the frequency in which we come out. So if you have one, two, three, four, you know, dogs and then if you want us there once a week, some of them were there two times a week. Yeah. So were there every other week? Some of were there were there just once a month. And then we'd also just like one time cleanups, like when people are getting ready to have a party or something like that, or they just want to get it back to like square one and then they can continue on with it. Yeah. Shamus: So there's nothing to do with the size of the dog or... Andrew: Nothing to do with the size of the dog. fact, everyone that calls in, they're like, ⁓ I have little dogs on my kind of. I want big dogs so that I don't have to look. He's not defined. You can see it. You have to hunt for it. You don't have to chase it down. Shamus: It doesn't matter. Barry: you think like a great day would be worse to deal with but honestly it's like shoveling dirt versus like you get a little chihuahua it's like you're really searching for it. Herbie: Looking for a tootsie roll in the grass. Shamus: Well, that's what I had to dog up until not this October to following October. He passed away. He was a pit bull and shockingly, my cat that you just saw has bigger turds than the pit bull. So you would have to go out there and look and I'm like, man, this is such a pain. Yeah, I just thought they would be bigger. Yeah. So the size of dog road doesn't matter. Does yard size matter? Like if you have like half acre and you got to cover more ground or compare to like something like a quarter of an acre, was it just dog mounted dogs? And how many times? Andrew: It does to an extent. ⁓ There are different like price models that some of our other, ⁓ you know, I guess you would call it competitors, not competitors, no, just other people in different states that really don't have any competition with us. They have different price models for things like that. ⁓ We really haven't come across anybody that has like a yard that's like just out of control with the sizing. So for the most part, for us, no, we don't really. do too much with that. ⁓ our prices are based off of an eighth of an acre, which is a typical backyard. Yeah. ⁓ Some of them are a lot bigger. Yeah. ⁓ Shamus: Bye-bye. Barry: If you're going to like two acres or something, it's like, all right, we need to we need to talk about this a little bit. But usually within reason, we're not we're not out there measuring your yard or anything. We just kind of whatever you tell us. But if we get there and it's, you know, a farm field you want us to cover. All right. We might have to talk about little. Yeah, it's basically how much time it takes us to get it done. Shamus: and reevaluate this. Herbie: ⁓ yeah, it's not only that you want to be efficient about it too, because you know, God forbid you miss you miss a little and it's going to be like a. Andrew: Yeah, we've had those issues, but we you know, we address them as they come. We send somebody back or to be honest with a lot of people are just like, hey, you miss a couple. Not a lot of people, course, but some of our people, hey, you miss some and I'll be like, all right, well, I'll send the guy back. Give me, know, like an hour. He's going to finish up. I'll send him back. Like, it's fine. It was only one or two. I picked it up. OK. Herbie: Great. Barry: All right. Andrew: It's more or less just a hey, just want to let you know and then we'll get in touch with our people and let them know, hey, listen, it's you know, got to got to look a little bit harder. They called, they said something, but on a general basis, we have a very, very good ⁓ success rate, I guess you will say. Barry: we're more focused on quality than Yeah, I guess speed. So we pay our our team hourly. Hey, look, you know, obviously, we want you to get in and out of there. But don't miss anything. extra time. That's fine. We'll we'd the best part about this honestly, like we just like running a business having happy customers and happy employees. Yeah, that's like the most fun part of it. We actually Haven't taken a profit yet. We've just been rolling everything in and more advertising growth, paying our guys and and gals. Yeah, it's just we're just having a fun time. It's about a year and a half now. That's cool. Like we said, the first customer we had was January of 2025. And then we kind of figured it out from there. That's cool. Herbie: And how long how long you guys been doing it then? You figure like in a little while longer now you actually going to start seeing a turning and profit. So then hopefully with this, you know, like a little bit of promotion, give us a couple of cards. Oh, yeah. Get the name out. Plus, like I like the fact like you're innovative, man. You like you got a lot of good names, even with the T-shirt thing and stuff to do this. You probably might be able to implement that with the T-shirts for for your company now. Barry: Yeah. Yep. Andrew: Yeah, we have done a couple of things, but we've been so busy that it's just easier to order. ⁓ We order them online. Barry: and Shamus: I was gonna say nobody wants to go outside and deal with that weather we I mean, right with all that ice and I guess you guys do that all year round to like even if Barry: year round. Yeah. Wow. Andrew: No rain as long as there's no dangerous conditions, of course. Shamus: No, absolutely. Barry: but once the snow's melted we got the phone wouldn't stop ringing. I guess everything was backed up from the winter. Everyone's looking outside saying, boy, we need to get this taken care of. Andrew: There were multiple days where I was in front of my computer for at least three, four hours, and it was just for a solid two and a half of those hours. The phone. I never hung up a phone call. Wow. I picked up a phone, the phone for the first time. I answered that person. OK, well, OK, great. Yeah. Click. The next one came through. Nice. I never actually hit end. I just kept hitting the next next the next call. Herbie: That's cool. Then just like formulate and getting like when they're scheduled and all that's that's cool. Barry: Yep. Shamus: Well that kind of attracts them because I I always do research on certain things when we have guests in and I put up a lot of dog poop facts and It's shocking to me that it took this long for this industry to really take off because they said a dog will poop about 276 pounds of waste each year which ultimately adds up to American dogs produce 10 million tons of poop each year That's enough to fill 3,800 Olympic sized swimming pools. Geez. Now on top of that, on top of that, they say 40 % of owners don't pick up their poop and 24 % of dogs eat their own poop. So I guess, I mean, that 40 % and whatever the dogs aren't eating, you guys are picking it up. That's you guys are. Barry: image. ⁓ Herbie: No, it's not. Andrew: Well, lot of our customers are the ones that don't pick it up. Yeah. Shamus: Yeah, that's and that's kind of disgusting. Leave a sick yard. mean, I know people that walk dogs and just kind of let them poop and other people's yards keep moving. But yeah, let us sit in your own yards a bit. Herbie: I drive by poop. Barry: and Some are elderly people who can't bend over. A couple of people are like, you know, disabled. Mm So it's like, you know, you got to get it done and that's. Shamus: ⁓ absolutely Herbie: service man. ⁓ Andrew: But one of the wildest things that I've come across since we've been doing this I would say a solid 80 to 85 percent of our customers are just normal regular everyday people Just like us. They're not like, you know big rich and famous people It's just normal working-class people that we go out to Shamus: Like he said, they're probably the soccer moms, the dads that are working. know, I've got three kids, I got to cook dinner and I can't just take 15 minutes of my day to go out there and clean up dog poop. So. Yeah, absolutely. I just spent. ⁓ Did you guys do you guys happen to notice? Well, like all the customers you have now do dogs tend to poop in like generally the same area or do you guys have to? Andrew: Or you don't want to by that time of day. Shamus: Are they territorial like that? Because I had a dog, not the dog this one, but the one before when I lived in Delanco, I had like a small hill in my house. I used to call it shit hill because he used to go up there and just that's where he always did his business. So the dogs tend to do that. Do you guys notice that? Or is it just kind of all over the place? Andrew: Definitely, definitely. They have their their spots and you learn it. And then that's how well when our team is out working there, they become a lot more efficient because we send them to the same houses over and over and over again. Yeah, you learn where they go. There's there's, know, a couple of our dogs are real like fence liners. They don't don't go in the center of the yard at all. It's just all along the fence line. There's some that are just, you know, you learn their spots. Yeah, a lot of them are like that. Shamus: so they see the pattern. Barry: That being said, we do always check everywhere. Mulch beds, rocks, all that stuff. It's just like, you'll know like, hey, if you're used to seeing something here and it's not there, like, all right. Shamus: Unless that dog has been drinking a lot of milk. ⁓ The reason I mentioned as they say some dogs, not all, but some of them prefer pooping in the north south direction instead of the east and west direction. But I also have when we were talking to some of our buddies about this episode, like you mentioned, his dog just poops around the perimeter of his yard. Some go off like underneath the tree. Yeah. So yeah, I guess. Herbie: There's gotta be somewhere. You'll go to Kenny's house. Shamus: Well, what these dogs used to go to the neighbor's house and it wasn't because he told him to the dog. Yes, it generally enjoyed going to that house. So have you guys how often do you got you said it just depends on what the customer wants like how many times they come out and scoop ⁓ Herbie: Yeah, our buddy. Andrew: It's either weekly, bi-weekly, monthly, or twice a week. That's what we normally do. Barry: Okay. Yeah, it's general. Shamus: And I guess you bill them by the month like a monthly subscription kind of deal. Andrew: just like Netflix or Hulu or anything like that. Herbie: It is this great. It's like the dog poop Netflix and Hulu for. Barry: Yep. Andrew: Yep. Shamus: That's awesome. What are you guys generally cover? know you guys said obviously we're sitting in Medford, so. ⁓ Andrew: Yeah, I mean we covered Medford or... Barry: We cast a very wide net from the start, so we actually go as far up as I think almost Princeton all the way down to West Deptford. All the way over to Brigantine and all the way up to Tom's River. Oh, my. Shamus: You guys go that far? Herbie: Yeah, you guys. Yeah, you guys are covering some ground. Barry: it yeah in the beginning we were like I should we make it real close by us or you know spread it out like I will spread it out hopefully fills in last year didn't fill in so it was a lot of driving going for like one and two but this year it's filled in a little more it's a point where you know we'll have a employee hey go drive out the Tom's River here's a dozen for you to do that day or brigantine here's a dozen for you to do usually they'll have like 12 to 15 a day But we all send them like the one area. Hey, go do this area that they go to this area that day. And yeah, it's actually ended up working out. And we're actually. Some of the people we've hired in those areas, so they just walk in at their door, go do it, clock back out when they get home. So less little less driving time. Herbie: ⁓ it's smart. Shamus: I figured it was like Shemar Tabernacle Medford. That is a like you said that is a job guys. Herbie: Shunka Jersey. Barry: Most of them are around here, but yeah, we're working on the other ones, trying to build them up a little bit. There's a lot of people in New Jersey, turns out. Shamus: A lot of dogs. Herbie: Especially Medford too, think even like the parks and stuff like that, you guys should be able get that. Shamus: Yeah, do you guys have any? Do you guys have any township accounts or like any kind of business accounts or corporate accounts or? Barry: Not at the moment. We've looked into it and kind of really hasn't ⁓ haven't gotten the interest we thought we would out of that. Yeah. It's mostly just been residential. Andrew: We also haven't had the time to really get. Because it you need a lot of like it's a whole like if we were I mean, it's funny to say this because it's just dog poop. But like you would we need like a whole division. Yeah. Just allocated to that. Herbie: Yeah, I almost like pitched. Barry: to it. Shamus: Well, that was another thing I was going to bring up like the we could sit here and talk about how you guys go out and school. But like there has to be logistic wise, there has to be a ton behind all this. Like you said, you guys are from like Princeton, West Dept. So like just coordinating all that with people in those areas, hiring people. Do you guys is this like an LSE? Is it a do you guys need insurance for that? Like, yeah. Barry: We're an LLC, know, fully insured, know, have whatever certifications, registrations. There's a bunch of stuff we had to do, but it's a legitimate, you know, business. We pay our guys over the table. Thanks, yeah. Yeah, they weren't cheap, so I'm glad you liked it. Herbie: the shards man like that school. Andrew: Yeah, these ones were nice. ⁓ Barry: Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, we just recently got a new uniform. So that was like one of the things this year. Try to look a little better. This is our like, you know, admin uniforms. But you'll see most of our guys out there in blue shirts, blue hats. Yeah. But easier. Blue. That's our color blue. Yeah, this is cool, Andrew: these. Herbie: They look good. Shamus: when you guys hired, you just put something out on Indeed or are there certain people you look obviously you have to be. For stuff, you have to like animals, but you also have to be. Now, what's the word I'm looking for? Customer friendly or, you know, customer service based Yeah. What else you guys look for in people that. ⁓ Andrew: of Herbie: responsible. Barry: Well, the first couple employees we had were friends of ours. So that worked out and they've stuck with us since. Once we started hiring people who we didn't know, yeah, it was looking for, ⁓ how friendly are you first off? Like if you have no personality, it's not gonna work because they do have to deal with the customers. They have to talk to the customers all the time. Not all the time, but a lot of the time. And it's usually a friendly interaction. But ⁓ yeah, that you gotta... have a driver's license for ⁓ we actually had one guy I think applied one time and like his girlfriend dropped them off at the interview. We're like, all right, so that's kind of a red flag there. Drive to the interview. ⁓ Yeah, but it's gotta be a nice person. You know, has a background check type thing and Shamus: Just basically what any company looks for in an employee that you. Barry: Yeah, typical stuff and... Herbie: especially because you guys are running it professionally. So it's not like you guys are just doing this like like like, know, when your kid's doing a paper route or nothing like that, you know what mean? You guys are actually it's a legitimate business. So, of course, you got to you got to follow a business model and make sure you service the customer because they're pretty much not only that are they buying the services, but they're also buying the person that is doing the service to. if they got that guy, you know, they like, know that guy, that's my guy that takes care of that service. And that's that builds, you know, rapport in the business. You spreads the spreads to work too. Shamus: Well that yeah, I was gonna say that and if they send a guy to my house that I, you vibe with and you know, kick it with and next time I'm at a neighborhood party, they're like, Yo, who's that guy? As a guy comes clean up my dog. Somebody cleans up your dog poop. Yeah, man. Great, dude. Here's the number. Give him a call. So it's all word of mouth if you know if the person's treating you right It's just like any other business. Yeah. Herbie: Especially now with the weather getting better. I'm sure you guys gonna be getting pretty busy again with the People want to open up their backyard barbecues and all that stuff Andrew: Yep, yeah, they call it the the spring rush for us. are like in the dead center of it right now. Herbie: Thanks for taking the time to talk to us, man. Barry: That's cool. Yeah, all of our all of our employees have handled it very well. You know, it's been an uptick in work they've had to do lately. And we've been very fortunate. They've all ended up being very good. So far. We haven't actually had to fire anybody yet. So that's cool. Hopefully we never have to but at some point maybe. But everyone's very fortunate to have the people working for us that we do. Andrew: Yeah, we are lucky with that. Shamus: So if they're on site and they happen to come across any kind of poop, like duck poop or any of what they scooped that up or are we just looking for? Barry: We tell him dog dog poop because we've tried that before. Right. Before. And it was just a total disaster. I'm sure it a it was a I think it was like a Catholic school or something that wanted us to clear out like their baseball fields and playground. And, you know, we quoted them for the job. All right. It shouldn't be too bad. And we got there like, oh, my gosh, we basically have to take off the top layer of grass to get it all out. Andrew: We've dabbled in other- there. It was a nightmare. Barry: It is a Shamus: ⁓ yeah, duck duck Herbie: just like throwing yogurt out there. Andrew: Yeah, I mean we got it done, but it was not funny. And it was a lot of manual manpower. Herbie: fifth stuff like that is like you got to worry about like, you know, breathing that because, know, like with one of the other facts that dog poop is like it's I don't know. But I'm sure that is too. It's just like a load of bacteria. Shamus: ⁓ I didn't do dog food gram of dog poop contains 23 million fecal bacteria and when dried up and airborne, you can breathe that in. Barry: Yeah. So where's the? Andrew: Yeah. Herbie: Yeah, I've tasted it before like god damn it Barry: We'll get a whiff sometimes when we're going. Herbie: Yeah, they would try to get, know, even like the, just like the regular dust masks or anything like that. Maybe that might help. Barry: We do have one guy I think that uses a respirator. I think makes sense. hey, whatever our employees want, we really usually get it for them. Some want gloves. They never really touch it, but some just, you know, one glove, one guy wants the respirator, some want booties, but... We do clean off all our equipment and tools for every yard. have a disinfectant spray. So the booties aren't really necessary because it's cleaned every time. ⁓ some customers request them. ⁓ you know, that's the few that do supply them on their own. And they just have a little box out there like, hey, put these on before you come out. Herbie: Yeah. So what's like the basic like equipment that you like the standard equipment that you guys use to do the job? Barry: It's pretty much just a little rake, like kind of something you use in your garden and like a commercial dustpan or dustbin. I don't know the exact size of it, but all our guys do is they line the dustbin with a trash bag, scoop all the stuff in with the rake. And once it's full, tie it up, double bag it and they're done. I suppose. I suppose. So. Herbie: Cause even like, was like one of the like weeks prior to this, I was when Seamus was running down some of the facts. I was running around just telling people randomly, did you know that dog poop can't be used as fertilizer? And everyone's walking around like, I didn't know that, but why are you telling me? Barry: People have suggested that us too. Yeah, that's a good idea. Like, yeah, we don't really want to play with it too much. Let's just throw it out. Yeah. Shamus: give. Andrew: You can, but you have to. There's like it's not like Kalman or things like that where like you don't have to process the cow manure. You just read reuse it like the for the pet waste. You do have to like compost it and do like a bunch of stuff to it because that was one of like ours for well, definitely my first thought. Probably not his. Yeah. But I was like. Barry: Just reuse it. Andrew: We could do something with this after we're done. And but the process was so lengthy and long and you needed like I forget what the actual like numbers were or anything. But like you you for the cow manure, you would. They do compost the cow manure a little bit. think there's a process to it, but it's not like like you would for this. But it takes like seven times the amount of pet waste to like the cow manure that you would need. And I'm like, where where am I going to put that? Shamus: that's never taken. Barry: You can't do that. Start a factory at your house or something. Andrew: That would like to kill me. Shamus: I'm sure your neighbors would love that when you know upwind. Yeah, but there was like what you just hit on they said, ⁓ The reason why is because dog poop takes up to like 12 months to completely break down Yeah, and then the EPA labels it as a pollutant if it gets into like the like the gutters and the rainwater Yeah, they say you can't flush dog poop if you have a septic tank because it'll like totally scrub your septic tank with all the bacteria So ⁓ but you can use it. But like he said it takes Herbie: I just like the process. is like a lot more time consuming and labor intensive. And plus, I'm sure cow poop is got a lot more and it's plenty more volumes and it's easier to use. So they're like, no brainer. Do you have like any crazy story, like, you know, anything like funny or anything that happened or anything that your workers have like reported in like, dude, there's this one site. Andrew: it. Shamus: I'm sure you're off. Andrew: No, I mean, really the biggest thing that we get is just like when we go out for initial cleans, like some of the yards we go to our techs are like, Whoa, like. More than I've ever imagined. Herbie: think this was. Yeah. Shamus: But dogs ate a bunch of tacos. Yeah. Barry: It's that or it hasn't been cleaned up. Like you said, it doesn't decompose for 12 months, I think you said. So yeah, they haven't cleaned it up in 12 months. Herbie: Yeah, I'm like, the family out there poop out there too? What the hell, Does everybody shit out in the backyard? Andrew: Yeah. Sometimes. I'm called him out of them like I don't know if the husband's. Yeah. In the house. Unaware at this point whether or not they can. Dogs are here and steak and potatoes every night for dinner. Shamus: I can't believe it. Barry: dog porn or something. don't know what's in this. Herbie: Do they ever like try to say oh come on in because we got some mess on the rug or anything like that or you just Andrew: No, I mean, we've had I've had people call. It's like the way that we've we've kind of split our our business responsibilities up as I handle the employees and I handle all the customers calling in and that kind of stuff. And he does a lot of the admin background stuff because he's a lot better with the numbers, the pricing and all that. I know the prices. Yeah. But he does all like the invoicing, all the payments, all that kind of So I'm the one that fields all the phone calls from all the clients coming in. Herbie: makes the improvements and stuff. Andrew: Yeah, I've had some of them request like, you clean the inside of the house? No, no, we do not. ⁓ Shamus: Yeah, that's a whole different ball. Yeah Herbie: That's a whole nother Andrew: You know, then you go through that whole process of, know, it's just like having a cleaning service, like having your cleaning lady come in. Yeah. You've heard all the horror stories of them. ⁓ they stole my, fifty thousand dollar diamond bracelet. This way, we just know nothing inside the house. We have a. Yeah, it's a whole other. Shamus: If something gets broke, they're going to blame you. Herbie: Bye. Barry: Yeah, of like, viability. Shamus: I was gonna say insurance wise you guys that's probably a different ballgame, too Andrew: Probably. Herbie: Get a Buffalo Bobhouse tune like why is there a goddamn well in the basement like you put the lotion in the basket. Andrew: Yeah, yeah, then there's that whole other layer. Herbie: You're going to use it right to climb out of the goddamn well. Shamus: Yeah. Andrew: I mean, there are there are some of our clients that that our guys just have to they have to go through the house because there's no gate like in the condos and stuff. There's just a fence. ⁓ We're not really like real too keen on that. But it's real quick. It's just in and out. Yeah. You know. Herbie: Do you normally have like, like one, one, one person per site or just like maybe like a tandem group or whatever. Barry: It's usually one person ⁓ unless the calls and like this is a minefield. This is going to take you all day. Like, all right, we'll send more than one person out there. Andrew: line. Yeah, we have in the past or we've tag team a lot of yards together in very beginning, especially the initial cleans. But like we had one client that called and he was like, listen, I I've had two puppies for like nine months. I just, you know, I'm I'm by myself. I work. They just run through the yard and it was like a half acre yard. He was like, and it's front and back. Herbie: ⁓ yeah, the beginning, yeah. Andrew: So we sent one of our texts there to start and then another one was actually coming like on the way. And the one that was there was like, no, like I'm finishing up like you don't need to send anyway. But we do send more if we need to. And and things like that. But we haven't had to. Herbie: Some sites you might have to send in the Minesweeper to pick up all the mines there. Shamus: I was just gonna ask that when you get a new customer and when the tech like I don't know if you guys actually sent somebody out before you agree to do it but like if it's something so like not ridiculous but like it's is the subscription still the same like even though the or do you charge them for initial cleanup and then you start Barry: subscription. Believe it or not the first clean is free. we Wow, sometimes yeah. Shamus: Yeah. That's probably pretty I mean, from a business why that's great to do because yeah, we got you straight. Yeah, now we're gonna keep you straight. Barry: Yeah, yeah, it's a little, you know, thank you. But then at the same time, the initial ones are usually the worst ones. ⁓ absolutely. We'll be out there doing a free clean for two hours and it's free. But ⁓ that's for people who sign up for the subscription anyway. So, I mean, it's it kind of benefits us to ⁓ to get the first big one out of the way, because after that, it's really just us coming each week or every. Yeah, it's it's a main. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think the last one I did or the worst one I did was like three hours long. Just by myself. I had like 13 bags of this stuff. was and these are like 13 gallon trash bags. So it's Jesus. It's a lot. Yeah. My worst. Herbie: It's like you sure they got dogs, maybe like a horse or a velociraptor or some shit back there. Andrew: That was the one I was like, I called him halfway through it. was like, dude, I don't know if the husband's allowed to use the bathroom in the house. It was I was there for two and a half hours and I walked out of there with like 14 or 15 bag. Yeah, it was nuts. Herbie: See ya. Barry: There's still a customer. Herbie: That is a Shamus: ⁓ yeah, I was gonna say. Andrew: Yeah, yeah, they're still they're still with us. Herbie: Cool, man. Well, I guess so. They're like, dude, wasn't for you guys. You know, goddamn mountain of shit in the backyard. Andrew: Or very. Barry: very appreciative of it, especially after seeing that the before and after. There's like, thank you so much. Shamus: I was gonna say it's very eye, it's probably eye opening. They're like, ⁓ my God, we have our yard back and Herbie: Yeah, they can actually use the yard. Yeah, I mean. And we're stepping in the landmine. Yeah. But like, where's Billy? Billy didn't make it, man. He stepped in some. Never saw him since. Andrew: You can walk freely without a mask. Yeah. Shamus: I'm assuming when a tech goes in the yard or when you guys go in the yard like the dogs are pretty much up or sometimes they out. Has anybody ever been bit or has there been an incident or anything like that? Knock on wood. Barry: Sometimes they're out. ⁓ Nothing at this point. mean, there's been a couple where our guys and girls would go there and they'll be like, this dog's like looking at me not right and snarling at me. like, just move on to the next one. We'll call the owner and figure it out. So for those ones, we, the owners put the dogs inside, but a lot of them are friendly. So they'll be out there playing while, you know, we're out there doing the work. Andrew: for you. I would say a solid 95 % of the dogs are awesome. And then the other 5 % we we know and we've been told from the owners like, listen, we won't have the dogs out. There's one that the dogs are there's like two or three, maybe three. Herbie: Okay. Shamus: No? Andrew: two or three, three or four dogs that are usually in the yard and like half of them are friendly and the other one is not so much. And it's not even that they're not friendly. It's more or less just like who's coming in my yard and why? So it's not ever we've never had anything like a, know, like you said, like a snarling dog or. Shamus: I got to protect the other three. Barry: Yeah. Herbie: We're a damn Kujo. Andrew: Yeah, nothing like that. And then the other ones that we have gone to, like I said, we we've been notified immediately like, listen, if the dogs in the yard don't go in. Shamus: Okay. Barry: So even if you have mean dogs, we can work with it. It's something that scares us away. Andrew: OK, absolutely. Now, and all of our texture dog owners, too. So like the ones that people say, oh, they're unfriendly dogs. Typically, they're really not. Yes. And they work with them anyway. Shamus: . People get a little freaked out with dogs and for no reason at all Andrew: Yeah. Herbie: to really, you know, they don't know that you got these people coming to the backyard like they hang out and poop in there all the time. They see two people they don't know. Right. Andrew: Right. And then some of them are working canines. So they'll they'll those guys are like, you'll never see the dog in the yard. And ⁓ you do not go in the yard. We have a spot on our so like the app that we use to to map and route all of them, all of our text to where they need to go. They have notes and things like that in there and it'll come up right in big red, bold letters. Unsafe dog. Don't enter yard. Things like that. Herbie: That's how you guys are doing it too, that's smart because you know sometimes with certain paperwork some people like miss those details really you know I mean or like make it a like a smaller notation where you guys are taking the initiative to not only be safe for the customer but also for your your workers. ⁓ yeah. That's a good initiative right there. Shamus: Yeah, cause the last thing you want is a canine grabbing a hold of your brother. dog. I've worn that suit. Yeah, like go ⁓ Herbie: HOO HOO HOO Andrew: It's an unrecognizable force coming at you. Herbie: What grade would it be like the most feared dog would like this little Chihuahua? Shamus: They're usually is that the case like the little guys are always at that Napoleon thing. Andrew: It's a little dog. Barry: second. Herbie: Yeah, man, get the crap out of it. Shamus: I was gonna say I call them the yip dogs. They bark so loud that they kind of just whip around. Now bark. Those are the toe humpers. Those are the ones that want to end your life. Andrew: Yeah. ⁓ Yeah. Herbie: Yeah. Shamus: How does this subscription work? Is it like a yearly thing or is it like monthly? Like you could sign up and then stop any time or does that have to be a year or? Andrew: You can sign up and stop any time. We don't have any contracts or committal periods. We've really not had or run into any issues with that. You know, lot of our clients are the ones we've had from the very, very beginning and they haven't left. mean, there are obviously we've had clients that have left, but it's, you know, for whatever personal reasons they have or things like that. But, yeah, no, there's no no committal period. There's no contracts. There's just. the only thing that we try to do is, know, because it's a subscription based and we bill out the same day every month, we just try to, you know, let us know before that just so that we don't have to worry about tying money up in the cloud and all that stuff. You know, it debits out of their account and goes up. We don't have it yet either. And then once we get it, then we can refund it. And then it goes back up into the cloud and then they get it. So it's more of just like a courtesy thing for them. I mean, we will refund anything we Herbie: Month to month. Andrew: need to but we try to do it just so that you we don't hit their account and then have to give it back. ⁓ Shamus: Okay, how many I know you guys said depending on how many dogs and how many times you like how many times are you guys like is there a maximum amount of times I can have you guys out a week or like I can have you guys out every day if I wanted to Barry: You can do it every day if you want. We could figure out something for that. I think the most anybody has is two times a week right now. We've had a couple people ask about three and four, but they ended up just going with two for now. So if you really, really want to clean your yard all the time, we can come there every day. Shamus: Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Now is there a client that has like what is the number of dog dogs a client has? Barry: think one's got like seven. Six or seven, Yeah, it's a special one. But they're all nice too. So they'll be out in the yard playing with us and stuff. Andrew: or seven. Herbie: Damn, they got a whole pack. Shamus: Well, I imagine that's a two, two time a week kind of deal or. Barry: He's actually a one time a week so every week it takes a little longer than usual but you just kind of factor that in. Andrew: And it's not like so long now. It's, know, not economically friendly for us. just a little longer than the other ones. And there is one guy that signed up, I guess, maybe like two or three months ago now. He's a he's a breeder, a licensed breeder. So he does have I think he has up to. He has can or will have up to like 10 dogs at a time right now. He's got six. Herbie: Yeah. Wow. Barry: Generally, it's another like we have our base price for the month and then every additional base price for one dog and every extra dog you have it's another $10 on top of that. Shamus: Okay, that's not too bad. ⁓ Herbie: ⁓ That's probably another reason why people like look man I'll just pay it then don't have to worry about it and have you guys take care of it Andrew: Yep, our one dog once a week subscription is under $100 for the month. Shamus: Yeah, that's not bad at all. Herbie: Yeah, that's probably another reason why people are like, you guys do it. Andrew: Yep. Great. Less than your cable bill. Yeah. Barry: Yeah. Herbie: Yeah, dude. Sucks. That'd be a whole episode about cable. How much I hate the cable now. ⁓ Shamus: cables. Andrew: you Shamus: Do up and not in a weird way but do any of the owners tell you to maybe bag it and leave it somewhere that way because like a lot of owners it's not like the cat litter thing is huge now where the litter turns a certain color if so like if you look at certain dog poop you can tell the health of your dog and also does anybody ever tell you to leave it so they can look at it for health purposes or is it just a just come clean it up and get rid of it or did they ask you or any of your texts like hey did you notice anything is it a different color or is there anything I need to worry about Like is it lined in mucus or anything or or does the tech notice something and then mention it to an owner or you guys to tell the owners if like if there's blood in the stool or something. Barry: If they see something that looks out of the ordinary, like I've gone out there and I saw like worms crawling in at the one time. ⁓ we told like, hey, you might want to get this one or something. ⁓ One almost looked like it was like radioactive. But turned out that it probably was the dog had cancer and was going through chemo at the time. that was true. ⁓ But ⁓ yeah, if if they see something that looks like really out of the ordinary, they'll let us know. We'll let the yeah, owners know. Shamus: Okay. Yeah, because that was a huge thing. Like a lot of people, like the pushback from, why would you get somebody like, you you can look at your dog's poop and let them, you know, you can dictate their health and all that stuff. Barry: We're not vets or doctors or anything. if they see enough of it, if something looks really out of the ordinary, then we'll let them know. There's a lot of like pieces of dog toys and stuff in there. We don't really say much about that from dogs that just eat the toys and we know. Andrew: When the dogs got into the kids crowns, we know. Definitely. Herbie: Yeah. ⁓ Shamus: Even the ground. I work at a school and some eighth grader, guess, his friends dared him. He ate like a 16 crayon colored thing. And of course, like the principal, everybody's all pissed off. And I just kind of walked by and I was like, hey, dude, you got to let me know what that looks like. Yeah, I am dying. Yeah. You want to be on the podcast? Andrew: Yeah. Yeah. Herbie: You Andrew: Literally. Shamus: But yeah, was going to say you guys probably find a lot of all cool stuff and dogs. Have you ever had somebody like, hey, the dog accidentally smiled like a ring, like our engagement ring or a quarter or something if you happen to come across the snow? Herbie: unique items. No Andrew: Yeah, no, no. If it's a quarter, the only reason I'm going to tell somebody is if it comes out as a two times. And then I'll tell somebody. Now, we haven't had anybody request that now. Herbie: Yeah, that happened. Shamus: If he shouldn't change then you know. Herbie: Yeah, fluffy eight memos, ancient earrings and stuff. Andrew: No, nothing like that. Barry: I'm sure that'll happen in the future though. Herbie: Yeah, now that we talked about it. Yeah. Matter of fact, if anything happens like that, just give us an update like, you know, we'll check in on you guys anyway. That like updates. It was really a treasured or jeweled. Shamus: Yeah. Barry: Found a diamond ring in one, Andrew: Yeah. Shamus: Yeah, I don't know if I if I was the tech like hey keep an eye out for Yeah, they might have to come out here verify. Yeah. I really ain't gonna fuck with this Herbie: Yeah. Definitely not. Just trying to pass a diamond ring, man. Jesus Christ, as you go like dogs in the back. We're like passing a pearl necklace. That's even worse, Shamus: Well, as I said, my uncle's dog, like if anything was on the tape, he would just would. He was kind of like a bull massive kind of. But like he would when that tongue came across the table, he would take change earrings, everything would go on and just like. So he'd have to sort through the proof to get my Aunt earrings out. ⁓ need earrings and. ⁓ Andrew: At that point whose fault is it? It's their fault at that point, they know Shamus: So yeah, that's it's like I said, I was dying to know about all this stuff because I love animals. I love dogs. And the last one kind of broke my heart. So I'm still on the fence about getting another one. Herbie: No, me too, man. That happened to me too. I had a Pomeranian soap, but I cleaned up after mine. Oh, you know, Pomeranians like, you know, and he was in my backyard. So every time he was like right there, I'd be like cleaning right after. Shamus: But there was times I was, know, because I got the nigga around pulling all this stuff. So there was times like right before a party started, you know, my lady friend at the time was like, oh, we didn't clean up the dog pit. I'm like, oh, so you're running around trying to do it. So if I do get a dog, you guys will be the first ones I call because I don't miss that aspect of, you know, a dog. Herbie: We kind of made like a thing because like we always check out like the poop man like the safe make sure it looked like it looked healthy and all that stuff you know so that give you like a sigh of relief that you know your your little buddy's okay yeah not great but some of these other people like I ain't picking up shit just call up scooper heroes yeah yeah I like the name too scooper heroes I like that yeah but like even the other names you had for you all the businesses they they were like they were like Shamus: ⁓ Andrew: It was a long process to get this name Barry: I liked that. Andrew: Yeah, six or nine designs took a long time to come up with, too. ⁓ But and then this one was definitely the one we put a whole lot more thought into because, know, just just how it played out. Herbie: Well, maybe you think about those other prototypes, And you guys have known each other since you were three. That's freaking awesome. Yeah. Barry: Yeah, yeah, that's what's great because we can you know, we can trust each other. Yeah, yeah, we can trust each other on any pretty much anything at this point. Yeah. ⁓ Herbie: You guys know each other, man. mean, yeah. Barry: Yeah, was the best man at his wedding. We're that good of friends. But yeah, we actually do have a couple other names kind of reserved, or at least the websites. One of them is IHateDogCrap.com. Yep. Andrew: Yep. And that works. That link works. Barry: Yeah, it does. We'll direct people to that and it comes to our website. I don't know what we'll do with it. Yeah, I was like, Hey, this would be a good one to kind of hang on to. I don't know if we'd ever use it. But yeah, our website's scooperheroesnj.com right now. And stay that way. Shamus: So. Herbie: the for the business, like that. Any other type of things that other people, the listeners would want to know to look up, get a hold of you guys. Plus we're gonna need some cards too, because I do want to pass them out to some. Barry: ⁓ like. Andrew: Yeah, definitely. Now, On. Yeah, we're no, we don't do that anymore. ⁓ Yeah, that was just. Shamus: X09 Designs is done. Barry: That was our first like kind of business venture together. Herbie: It a bad idea though to make some of the t-shirts and give them to your clients, you know what mean? Kind of like... It would be a bad idea, dude, because that's like kind of like... Shamus: Well, they are in my algorithm. You guys do have that ad on ⁓ Facebook. You guys are off on my timeline all the time. Yeah, it's Cooper here. Barry: Good. I'm it's getting around. Yeah. I actually had someone at the bar two days ago. They're like, are you the scooper heroes guy? I'm like, that's me. Do you have a dog? Yeah. Didn't have a dog. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Shamus: wearing a baseball hat with the thing next to it. I don't know who the female is. She's got a sign. Andrew: way. Herbie: Yeah. Barry: That's my sister actually. I'm like, hey, everyone likes girls here. Take up cold pictures for me. Yeah, that's cool. Andrew: Yeah, get some variety of people in there. Yeah. Shamus: How many employees do you guys have? How big is the company? Andrew: He handled all the onboarding for him because it's his friend so that's why I was like six. Barry: And then we're looking for another one out in like the Tom's River area right now. Kind of make our driving a little easier. Have someone that lives out there do the yards out there. So we got six right Herbie: I was getting ready to think, like I have a buddy of mine that lives out by like Tom's river, like one of the retirement areas and stuff like up at like, know, in between brick and stuff like that. Shamus: ⁓ if anybody listening is from the Tom Rivers area. Yeah. Got to be a customer friendly and, you know, big smile. Yeah, like animals. Herbie: for a job. Andrew: Thank Yeah. Herbie: Who doesn't like animals though? You gotta be a complete asshole if you don't really like animals, you know what mean? Shamus: I like animals more than I like people. Honestly. I'd swear to Mrs. Squirrel than one of them cyclists on the bottom. Andrew: Yes. Barry: I think it's most most people. Herbie: ⁓ yeah. Don't even get me on the situation. It's like everybody. Yeah. Right. I feel the same way. I'm not like, you know, in fact, we should do another episode of that. Just you guys want to come back for that and talk about the bicycle people there. Andrew: know say that, I had a long drive yesterday and I was screaming about that with my wife. Barry: share the road with them, but they don't pay taxes through like registration on their bikes. Andrew: They don't share the road. Herbie: They don't. Yeah, exactly. They don't. Oh, you see you guys got it coming. Oh, yeah, we got to do it. You got to have bicycle people. Andrew: BAM! man. Shamus: In our springtime special, we covered that. response has been amazing. Yeah. If you're not one of those Lance Armstrong wannabes on a bike, people hate you. Herbie: back on. shaved legs and your stupid goofy helmet and reflectors on it. Like are you in a wind tunnel jerk off? Andrew: Yeah, mean, come on, Drive, you're riding down Main Street and you don't need. Herbie: You're going 15 miles an hour, fuck. Shamus: I was crying. I was at the corner of Main Street and where my barbershop is where they're painting that new Medford mural. Yeah, we are walking to get a coffee. Me and my lady friend. And here comes a group of them as they're pulling. There's not a car around. And as they're pulling up to the stop sign, the first guy put I thought I was back in the military because they that whole like, yeah, you go and the bike behind like stopping and it went down a lot. Stopping, stopping, stopping, stopping. Herbie: My. Shamus: Do you really need to come here? was like this why people fucking dorks. This is why people hate you. Herbie: Damn goof troop is what they are bad. Hold it. Charlie's ahead two clicks like no, no, just just. Shamus: Thanks. Unless you have a subscription with these guys, if you're a cyclist with these guys, you guys are. Andrew: Alright, yeah you're good. And any future ones that will, you get a pass. Herbie: Yeah. You can go bicycling while they pick up the dog poop, but you know, you get a pass. Barry: That would work out. Andrew: Yeah. Shamus: I do find like our friend Bobby has that electric bike and he's got that little kids trail and he puts his two dogs in there and they go ripping down. It's pretty funny to see his. Herbie: He's not really far from like where his other parent his parents live so he's like a couple blocks away so they be like a not even a 10-minute Shamus: He was the one that was asking, he was like, what does subscriptions look like? And I was like, well, I guess you have to listen to the podcast. Barry: Yeah. Bring up is that we actually don't have to have the owner be there to do the work. Get in the backyard. ⁓ We kind of like a notification system that we do over text messages. So before we get there, you'll get a text message saying, we're 15 minutes away, however far away the technician is. ⁓ Herbie: ⁓ yeah, makes sense. Shamus: That's because all that's perfect for people with the ring system and stuff. like 15 minutes later, your rings going off, you know, it's Barry: guys. Yep. Yep. So yeah, no one needs to be home as long as we get in the backyard. And once we're done, we take a picture of the if you have a gate, we take a picture of your closed gate, so that you know the gates close, you can let your dogs out again, and that we're done. Herbie: considering. Shamus: Well, it's also smart on their end. Well, that way nobody could say hey, my dog got out and got hit by a car because you guys want to get over. So that you have that liability factor. So Herbie: You guys are covering all the ends man. Good job Andrew: Yeah, we're trying. Barry: Yeah, we're doing our best. Herbie: Cool man. That's why like I was like for we I've been waiting it like talk to you guys for freaking weeks ever since we started launching this I'm like, I can't wait for the dog poop guys Even everyone who works I work at the hospital. I'm just like, I can't wait for the dog. That's like trying what? Shamus: Yeah, was dying to know certain aspects of it like the LLC the insurance like you said just leaving the gate shut and taking a pit like I would have never thought it out and like a lot of owners probably wouldn't have either Herbie: Probably sure, probably other companies don't even think that think about doing that either man. So maybe you guys are. Probably. Barry: Yeah, I'm not sure. Shamus: Did the guy in Seattle mention that or is he like the pioneer? he like the godfather? Barry: He's kind of the reason why you're seeing it a lot more. A lot of people, it's always like, hey, this is going pretty well for me. he basically sells his advice. So we're like, when we saw her, like, all right, this might work. Whatever, a couple hundred bucks. Let's see if it works out and see what we can learn from the guy. And ended up learning quite a bit. Andrew: You need an uplift video or something. I think it was like that. Barry: Yeah, where he's like, made a lot of money. All right. ⁓ So yeah, we're just kind of one of us copy what he did and kind of put our own flavor on it now. Yep. Herbie: It's almost like one of those business conferences, you know that no other businesses do like everyone meets at like a Hotel conference place and they all exchange ideas and now just do it on video and just pay to watch it. Yes smart Andrew: He does do a conference now. Yeah, it's a every year. Barry: I don't know if we'll go to that, dog poop conference, but... Andrew: But they do it. Herbie: as you may not be able to write it off in a text. Barry: Yeah, I'll tell you what, as goofy as this business sounds, you know, there's a pretty big demand for it. Oh, yeah. Very surprised. Shamus: I was telling you guys before we were waiting on you I'm taking a creative writing course and I was talking to him on the phone so when I walked in I was a couple seconds late I was like I'm sorry I was talking to a potential guest for the podcast and she was like you do a podcast and I was like yeah and she was like well who are you talking to and I was like well the guy scoops dog poop for a living. I'd like to look on her face was like The guy sitting in the first row was just like, oh yeah, what's the name of the company? And I said, he was like, oh, I don't use time. He's like, and he was like, I said, well, how does it work? And he goes, well, they come out once a week and they charge me so and so. And when he said the price, her eyes got this big. And I went, now, if he's got 20 customers a month doing that, he's paying for his house at like $2,500 a month. like, she was. She's like, I never knew it was that lucrative that this was a thing. And I was like, well, that's why we're to have them on because like I was so intrigued by it. was like, not that I'm going to start it, but like I was just kind of like, I need to know how this works. And like, why is this exploding? Because since I've talked to him on the phone, you guys have come up other and I'm not going to mention anybody names. You guys have you guys are the official dog poop scoopers the pork roll like a cheese podcast. And every once in while, we'll give you guys out free advertising. Yeah. Give you guys a shout. ⁓ But ⁓ Herbie: for heroes. Hey, y'all. Shamus: Yeah, I just it's amazing how this thing and doing a research like over the last three or four years, like all these companies, they were like microbreweries back in like the night. They're just everywhere. Like everybody's popping up everywhere. It's crazy, man. Barry: It's something that everybody with a dog has to do and nobody wants to do so ⁓ we'll do it for you. Andrew: Yeah, and you can see, well, you probably can't see because I hide a lot of them on there. But on our Facebook with the ads that are going, there's also a lot of people that are out there like shaming this like not not us that believe it or not, most of them are like praising us, but they're shaming all these people that are paying for this service. Well, how can you own a dog and not clean up after it's well like. Shamus: He said a lot of them are elderly or like if I just had surgery on my back and I have a dog, what am I going to do? And I don't have any family. So it's not that people are just lazy. It's just that people just physically can't or aren't capable of doing it. You what I mean? So that provides a great service. Andrew: Yeah, well, they're just busy. mean, it's and I tell people this all the time. It's no different than paying someone to come cut your grass. Yeah. You can't say it's irresponsible. I have a dog and not clean up after. Well, it's just as irresponsible to have a yard and not cut the grass. Yeah. Oh, or shovel your walkways. Same thing. I don't understand why people on their bash. Herbie: or snow plow. I think it's easier for them to bash because everyone has just like this this this love for animals, but they're able to be like, you know, just like in any type of horror movie and stuff like that. Like as long as a dog doesn't get killed. Yeah, I'm fine. So everyone's back in the animals all the time. Yeah. But meanwhile, if a grandma can shovel her snow, they're going to be like, ⁓ we. Smacked about not cleaning up after. Shamus: I just thought it is what people wouldn't realize is if you have I live in Florida my grandmother lives up here and these guys are scooping the dog poop and then one day the tech shows up and there's no dog poop in the yard but you can hear the dog in the house yeah yeah and he knocks on it and nobody answered Hey, we need to call nine one, da da da. And maybe she had a stroke or maybe she's been in there for like a couple of days dead. Like nobody would have found it if it wasn't for her. So I mean, like there's a whole different aspect of it, too. So I mean, it's good to have people come over and scoop up the poop and like maybe, OK, everything's going pretty good here. It looks normal. So like a lot of people just want to bust balls, just to bust balls. You know, it's just the way it is. Like my my brother's one of those guys who just like, really, you're not going to clean up your old dog shit. Well, I don't feel like doing it. And I make enough money now where I can actually help other people maybe get through college or whatever they're using that side money for like the tech or whatever and tip them and you know. Herbie: Yeah, we'll take care of the people that, you know, I think they're above that type of thing. You know, the bougie people. Yeah. You're going to pay too, man. So. Shamus: Set of Barry: Like we said, a lot of our customers are just normal blue collar workers. Yeah. mean, there's a couple, you know, high end people, but ⁓ it's just people that are busy. That's it. Yeah. Andrew: That was the best part, though, is when you when we got new clients like that, you can tell, like the ones that are more upper class and things like that. And but I'm a huge like landscape nerd. It's like being able to go in there and I'm like looking around these fields back here. Oh, my God. So nice. It's like, you know, it gives you that full, full, fresh set of ideas doing your own yard. That was one of my favorite parts. Herbie: Yeah. Shamus: ⁓ absolutely. Herbie: Well, probably they got the people like they also have, you know, the hired the landscapers to take care of all that stuff too, man. So why not? Yeah. Yeah. Actually, I like landscaping myself too. Yeah. I've always been like fan, like the Japanese dog. Like ever since, know, when I went to Japan, like a few years back and I've always been into the culture, but also the part about like the gardening and the landscaping and stuff. just think it's awesome, Andrew: A lot of the people we work around, landscapers. Yeah. Yeah. Shamus: So you guys want to plug it one more time? We'll this up. Where could they reach you? you guys have a phone number? Andrew: Yeah, it's a 609-288-2568. ⁓ Shamus: All right. obviously you guys have the thing on Facebook, Barry: Yeah, you'll see our ads on Facebook. website is scooperheroesnj.com. Give us a call. Shoot us an email. Shamus: All right. Andrew: Yeah. Herbie: Call him. Shamus: Yeah, no matter the size number of the dogs or size of the yard. They'll come out and get you guys squared away. Well, thanks for taking some time out of your day, guys. I know it's Sunday and it's gorgeous out. And this is probably the last place you wanted to be. But like I said, we appreciate your time. And every once in a while, we'll give you guys a shout out on here. They are the official dogs poop scoopers of the pork roll, egg and cheese show. Herbie: As goopah heroes, I dig it too, it's like a superhero, yeah, I dig that. Shamus: And then just hit us off on our page every once in Let us know how you guys are doing. And if anybody does call listening to the podcast, just mention our name. They're not looking for a discount or anything like that. But just let us know if anybody from the show calls. And if you get a client or two out of this, we hope that works out for you. Yeah, man. So thanks for coming by, And as always, my name is Seamus. And I'm Herbie. And we'll catch you guys on the next one. Take care. Andrew: That'd be awesome. Thanks for having us on. was awesome opportunity. Herbie: Thanks, man.