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On to the West Coast, matching up against the Chargers | Jags Drive Time: Wednesday, September 21 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks drive time with Ashlyn Sullo, sounds, John
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Speaker 1: Oceans and Bryan Sexton. Jacks drive time and starts right now. Martin's.
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Speaker 1: We're going up seven days dominating. We'll player Comrad in
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Speaker 1: the open, Bill Thorver Tighten, Evan Ingram Mike Dep we
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Speaker 1: two against the colts, a perfect person to be miked
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Speaker 1: up in that game, playing a key role on this offense.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jaguars drive time. On a Wednesday, Ash Lynn,
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Speaker 1: Brian and John here with you as we turned to
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Speaker 1: a new week and get ready for week three against
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Speaker 1: the Los Angeles chargers. Big Trip coming up, big opponent
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Speaker 1: coming up and it's going to be a key week
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Speaker 1: for this offense, especially Evan Ingram. Thought that I want
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Speaker 1: to ask you because you're talking about and it's positive. Actually,
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Speaker 1: you've been doing this for a five years right, Um,
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Speaker 1: you've seen a lot of free agents come through. Um,
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Speaker 1: you know what strikes you about this free agent class?
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Speaker 1: And thinking of Christian Kirk and Evan Ingram, I'm sure
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Speaker 1: there's more guys. Something Evan said on Monday which really
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Speaker 1: holds true on the block we just saw, when you
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Speaker 1: said he's about team. Everybody kind of says they're about team,
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Speaker 1: but you've had some guys through here weren't really all
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Speaker 1: that much about team. Um what a revelation he's been.
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Speaker 1: He's been Christian Kirk and I think that you know
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Speaker 1: as tried as at. I said, nobody likes to talk
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Speaker 1: about teamwork. It's all about stats, about whatever, but I
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Speaker 1: think those two guys and others in the free agent
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Speaker 1: class really define what they're all about. It's hard to
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Speaker 1: really target those guys in free agencies. You haven't have
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Speaker 1: time to talk to him. They did a good job
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Speaker 1: bringing guys in here this year. I really have enjoyed
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Speaker 1: getting to know every ingram a little bit. He's so
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Speaker 1: measured in what he says and it's clear that the
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Speaker 1: four years in New York, whereas a former first round
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Speaker 1: to pick he was heavily scrutinized. Right. They expect you
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Speaker 1: coming to be Mark Bavarro, which who you probably don't
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Speaker 1: do what we call that name, but Bavarro was the
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Speaker 1: tight end on the great eighties championship teams and was just,
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Speaker 1: I mean, as as tough and dependable as they came,
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Speaker 1: and you don't find many guys like that. He has
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Speaker 1: a couple of drops in New York gets down on him.
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Speaker 1: I mean he comes down here he's happy and I
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Speaker 1: think he's happy because he just gets to be himself
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Speaker 1: and be part of the team, as opposed to having
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Speaker 1: to be the star, the first round pick from Ole
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Speaker 1: Miss Guy Um. And then I think Kirk learned a
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Speaker 1: lot from you know, he was not the star. He
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Speaker 1: deando Hopkins and of course Larry Fitzgerald to us there
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Speaker 1: and for a time a j green. so He's been
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Speaker 1: around a lot of great players and he learned to
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Speaker 1: fit in and I think there's circumstances in Arizona New
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Speaker 1: York really play into who they are as people. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's it's it's being cool to see it has it's
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Speaker 1: both them kind of getting a new chance, a fresh
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Speaker 1: start that seemed needed, and I've said it. Sunday you
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Speaker 1: saw them going to ingram on Keith or downs where
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Speaker 1: it was eight yards and they needed a guy that
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Speaker 1: they could depend on, a big guy who could go
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Speaker 1: take it away from a cornerback Um, and he's going
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Speaker 1: that role is going to expand. Oh yes, all right,
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Speaker 1: let's get into big things. Big thing one is the message.
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Speaker 1: The Jaguars are one and one and after Monday night
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Speaker 1: football with the titans, the Jaguars are leading the division
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Speaker 1: this week. Now. In no way can anyone be cocky
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Speaker 1: after winning one game, but coach Peterson is making sure
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Speaker 1: the message is clear to sweep it's it's it's up
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Speaker 1: to the team, it's up to the players really, but
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Speaker 1: but for me it's it's kind of easy because the
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Speaker 1: message is always gonna be the same thing. It's all
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Speaker 1: about US going one to know this week and it
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Speaker 1: doesn't really matter what we've done in the past. And
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Speaker 1: and you know, it's a short term memory. Each week
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Speaker 1: it's a new set of challenges and so, you know,
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Speaker 1: it's my job to make sure that the guys stay
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Speaker 1: focused that way and and, uh, never lose sight of that,
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Speaker 1: because you know, that's when that's when you get beat,
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Speaker 1: when you start kind of, you know, feeling full of
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Speaker 1: yourself just a little bit after something like this on
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Speaker 1: Sunday or you know, you have success a couple of
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Speaker 1: weeks in a row and and Um, you want to
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Speaker 1: build on the momentum, of course, but at the same
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Speaker 1: time you gotta stay humble and grounded and continue to,
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Speaker 1: you know, improve at what you're doing big thing too,
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Speaker 1: is the trip. Big Game this week and as the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars will travel to L A to face the chargers,
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Speaker 1: considered a playoff favorite this season. This is a whole
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Speaker 1: week process to get ready to play a game on
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Speaker 1: the West Coast, and tight end Evan Ingram is getting
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Speaker 1: ready for that early. The biggest thing is really just
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Speaker 1: take care of your body, Um, and having a west
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Speaker 1: coast trip like that, you gotta get on it now
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Speaker 1: and really be consistent with at the beginning of a week. Um,
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Speaker 1: even we're gonna have a couple of hard practices, so
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Speaker 1: we got everybody's gotta take care of their bodies, be
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Speaker 1: accountable with that stuff, Um, and just stay focused. There's
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Speaker 1: gonna be a long flight, tim change all that stuff. Um.
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Speaker 1: It's just staying focused, staying a lot then on our
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Speaker 1: our mission and our goals, Um, and then when when
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Speaker 1: kickoff happens on Sunday, it's just it's just football and
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Speaker 1: we're ready for and big thing. Three is the chargers.
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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert and a multitude of offensive weapons on this
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Speaker 1: charger's team and, of course, Joey bows on the defensive line,
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Speaker 1: have made Los Angeles a tough team to beat this season.
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Speaker 1: It's especially a big challenge for the secondary and Safety
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Speaker 1: Andre Cisco. Big Week for the secondary. Um, you got
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Speaker 1: a lot of weapons on outside and a quarterback back
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Speaker 1: can make all the throws. So is that simple? You?
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Speaker 1: I mean you come across that every weekend the league,
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Speaker 1: but this week especially, now you have it. Those are
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Speaker 1: big things. I go back up to big thing one
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Speaker 1: and and I didn't think Doug Peterson had to say
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Speaker 1: the message this week, but it is rather interesting. All
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Speaker 1: of a sudden you now all these national media outlets
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Speaker 1: suddenly talking about the Jaguars and what a big win
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Speaker 1: it was on Sunday. First Place Baby. Yeah, in no
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Speaker 1: way that we're the Jaguars going in cocky to Los Angeles,
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Speaker 1: but it is something to room. Hey, we still have
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Speaker 1: lots of improve you know, it's interesting we talk about
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Speaker 1: a team, John, getting better. Right, we talked about, you know,
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Speaker 1: the offensive line blocking better or the quarterback making better
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Speaker 1: reads or the defensive backs with better coverage. But part
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Speaker 1: of getting better means being focused, understanding the circumstances you're in.
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Speaker 1: There's a mental or a maturity perspective on this one
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Speaker 1: that it's it's so hard to describe that it's just
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Speaker 1: easier to talk about, you know, Cam Robinson playing better
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Speaker 1: or termber lawrence playing better, but this team has to
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Speaker 1: grow up in order to go do what they want
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Speaker 1: to do. So, you know, here's a little bit of
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Speaker 1: perspective for them. You know, the Jaggers have lost eighteen
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Speaker 1: straight road games, as I know people know, but the
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Speaker 1: last time they won back to back games, right was October,
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Speaker 1: October two thousand nineteen. So it's been almost three years
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Speaker 1: since they've won consecutive games and I know that people
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Speaker 1: who are watching and listening here. Yeah, no kidding, it's
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Speaker 1: been that long right. So this team has to to
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Speaker 1: dial in and I think it'll be easy to dial
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Speaker 1: in it because, John of all the factors. It's a
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Speaker 1: long trip. The team hasn't one out there very often.
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Speaker 1: It's a great team that they're going to play if
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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert is under center, but they've never won in
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Speaker 1: San Diego or San Diego Los Angeles. And if you
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Speaker 1: go through the list and they yeah, and it's UH,
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Speaker 1: they've been atrocious against the chargers. This is a really
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Speaker 1: good chargers team and if we're going up to big
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Speaker 1: thing three, Um boy, these guys are good. Uh, I
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Speaker 1: write for later in the week, that they got better
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Speaker 1: from week one to week two. They'RE gonna have to
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Speaker 1: get that much better from week two to week three
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Speaker 1: to have a chance against this team, because this team
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Speaker 1: is loaded. UH, Kansas City will fall into this category
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Speaker 1: when we talk about him, but this may be the
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Speaker 1: most talented team that Jaguarys play all years. Allen and
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Speaker 1: Williams are just there. They're big receivers with great length
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Speaker 1: right uh, they run well. If you're not, you can't
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Speaker 1: make a silly mistake in the middle of the field
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Speaker 1: with coverage and expect to get away with it against
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Speaker 1: these guys. Because Herbert has everyone gives Patrick mahomes this.
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Speaker 1: I think Herbert has the best deep ball, the biggest
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Speaker 1: arm in the NFL, because he launches that thing and
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Speaker 1: he is fearless and accurate and canny accuracy. He puts
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Speaker 1: the ball right on the spot. So I think if
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Speaker 1: you'RE gonna win this game, you're gonna score a lot
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Speaker 1: of points, John, not twenty three, which is what this
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Speaker 1: team is averaging. You'RE gonna have to score thirty five
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Speaker 1: or thirty eight points to be able to beat this team.
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Speaker 1: It scares you about Herbert and this offense. The first
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Speaker 1: two offenses you felt like if you gave them something,
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Speaker 1: they would take it. This offense, you don't have to
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Speaker 1: give him anything. You can play very well against this
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Speaker 1: offense and they can score points. If you play poorly,
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Speaker 1: you're done. Yeah, and the turnover battle is going to
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Speaker 1: be huge this week as well. Right, and we'll find out,
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Speaker 1: you know, actually where Justin Herbert is. I mean they'll
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Speaker 1: they'll get back on the field today. I wouldn't imagine
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Speaker 1: that we're going to know much about him until Saturday even,
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Speaker 1: you know, because I wouldn't expect he's going to get
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Speaker 1: a lot of reps this week. It's, I would think. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and and, and that's that's going to determine. Obviously you
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Speaker 1: know his pain threshold and how many reps he gets.
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Speaker 1: But I mean he is we forget about him because
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Speaker 1: he's all the way out there, you know, and we
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Speaker 1: talked about mahomes and all the great quarterbacks in this
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Speaker 1: game and we forget about him. He's a top five guy.
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Speaker 1: When he's on he's the best. I mean, like I'm
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Speaker 1: saying Josh Allen, he's on He's the Best Bat Rock Hug,
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Speaker 1: but he's in that conversation guys who, again, you can't
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Speaker 1: if they're on and you make a mistake, you're not
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Speaker 1: going to win something. A Guy that knows Justin Herbert
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Speaker 1: and the chargers very well is Matt Money Smith, who
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Speaker 1: Jaguars drive time on a Wednesday, getting ready for a
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Speaker 1: Jaguars drive time, also on NFL network, waking up right
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Speaker 1: and early with us in Los Angeles. Thank you for that, Matt.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely actually what's happening. I appreciate you having me looking
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Speaker 1: forward to this one coming up on Sunday for sure,
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Speaker 1: and we just talked for about ten minutes all about
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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert and the latest on this injury. IS HE
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Speaker 1: gonna play? We all guessed he would, but what's the
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Speaker 1: latest in Los Angeles with the quarterback. Yeah, I'll tell
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Speaker 1: you they're they're really not saying a lot as you
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Speaker 1: would expect, right. You know, the the injury reports are
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Speaker 1: specifically sort of nebulous and and I pardon me, I'm
10:53
Speaker 1: driving up the fan duel TV right now and four
10:56
Speaker 1: or five freeway where it's always just kind of a
10:58
Speaker 1: free for all and you have to get on the
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Speaker 1: level some of my apologies for the Horn in the background. Um, yeah,
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Speaker 1: he's gonna play. I think kind of the way it's
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Speaker 1: been described to us is that it's a pain injury.
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Speaker 1: It's not a debilitating I mean certainly it's debilitating, but
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Speaker 1: it's something you can play through. It's just managing the pain.
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Speaker 1: That that you know everyone we talked to since the
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Speaker 1: thing is gonna stick around for a little while. Um.
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Speaker 1: But look, I think we saw with that that throw
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Speaker 1: after he couldn't run for a first down for two
11:26
Speaker 1: yards because he was in so much pain, in the
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Speaker 1: very next snap he throws thirty nine yard dot. Um,
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Speaker 1: you know that Herbert's probably capable of playing through it.
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Speaker 1: He's not gonna be a hund percent, but you know,
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Speaker 1: by week three, how many players in the NFL are
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Speaker 1: at hey Mac, good morning. You know, I watched that
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Speaker 1: Thursday night game and you see the A F c
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Speaker 1: West and obviously Kansas City has been on top out there. Um,
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Speaker 1: you guys seem so close to getting over that Humph.
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Speaker 1: What's the difference between Kansas City and Sandy? I'm sorry,
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm going to say that I still do I shouldn't,
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Speaker 1: between the chargers in the chiefs. Well, you know, in
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Speaker 1: that game I think there's look, I know this is
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Speaker 1: gonna sound a little sour grade sea and you know,
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Speaker 1: bias coming through, but the chargers with a better team.
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Speaker 1: I mean they're a better team the whole game. Um,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's a fourteen point swing on that pick
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Speaker 1: six because Gerald Abridge just couldn't quite summon the energy,
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Speaker 1: you know, for five more seconds, or the coaching staff
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Speaker 1: just could not let this team slow down and huddle up.
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Speaker 1: You know, Herbert just loved that mismatch he had with
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Speaker 1: a small corner on Everett. He wanted to get right
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Speaker 1: back on it and it turns into a pick six.
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Speaker 1: But you know, the offensive line of the chiefs was
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Speaker 1: letting them down that whole game. The chargers pass rush
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Speaker 1: with effecting Patrick Mahomes. He threw four interception worthy balls.
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Speaker 1: I personally thought he three two interceptions, I think. You
12:47
Speaker 1: go back and you watch the film and it's a
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Speaker 1: ridiculous call on Bryce Callahan. That would have been an
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Speaker 1: interception by NAS avitually. The score touchdown on that play
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Speaker 1: and you know it was called an interception on the
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Speaker 1: field and it certainly looked like a Sante got his
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Speaker 1: hand underneath that ball to keep it in an interception
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Speaker 1: at least prevent it from being overturned, and it wasn't.
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Speaker 1: So I'm not saying that should have won the game.
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Speaker 1: The chiefs made the play to win the game. What
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Speaker 1: I'm saying is you come out of that feeling like
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Speaker 1: the chargers were the better team. Now you make a
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Speaker 1: great point, which is this happened a lot last year,
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Speaker 1: where they would get to a certain point and then
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Speaker 1: seemingly could not get over the Hump Um. The defense
13:21
Speaker 1: is a lot better this year and it was the
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Speaker 1: defense that was letting them down last year when it
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Speaker 1: came to getting over that Hump. You just see teams
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Speaker 1: run all over him in the fourth quarter, convert third DOUNDS,
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Speaker 1: able to run out the clock and get a victory
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Speaker 1: or score the final two or three points they needed
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Speaker 1: to get to get that win, and I think you're
13:38
Speaker 1: going to see a shift in that just because the
13:40
Speaker 1: defense is playing so much better, particularly against the run,
13:44
Speaker 1: to get these pass rushers into third and long and
13:47
Speaker 1: obviously passing situations. Is there a feeling that Um uh,
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Speaker 1: talk to Jeff Miller with the only times the other
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Speaker 1: day and he mentioned this feeling that the chargers sometimes
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Speaker 1: have of what's going to happen at this time to
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Speaker 1: make it go wrong and if you're sort of been
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Speaker 1: snake bits, I'm nuys. Is that feeling going away? Do
14:07
Speaker 1: they have to earn it going away? And I guess
14:09
Speaker 1: what's the key to making it going away? Yeah, you know,
14:13
Speaker 1: that was certainly something that that you felt when they
14:16
Speaker 1: first moved here, when I first got, you know, I moved,
14:18
Speaker 1: I got with the team when they moved here. So
14:21
Speaker 1: there was definitely that and I think a lot of
14:23
Speaker 1: that was a product of you know, and I hate
14:26
Speaker 1: to say it because I think it's gonna be a
14:27
Speaker 1: hall of Famer, but a Philip rivers and I think Philip,
14:30
Speaker 1: you know, when he felt like there wasn't enough around him,
14:33
Speaker 1: and regularly there wasn't that he would just end up
14:36
Speaker 1: doing a little bit too much or trying to do
14:38
Speaker 1: a little bit too much, and that would lead to
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Speaker 1: that backbreaking turnover late in the game. Now I would
14:43
Speaker 1: always sort of, you know, kind of couch that by saying, look,
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Speaker 1: that he doesn't play the way he plays the entire game.
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Speaker 1: They're not even in that position, um, but because he
14:52
Speaker 1: has to play that way, that's when things would unravel.
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Speaker 1: I don't quite feel that with this group, Um, and
14:58
Speaker 1: I think there's two people, you know, that that sort
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Speaker 1: of have managed to push that aside, and it's Derwin
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Speaker 1: James and Justin Herbert. You know, Derwin is such an
15:07
Speaker 1: incredible leader, Um, just a positive force, really, just a
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Speaker 1: tortive force, um for this team of energy, of belief,
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Speaker 1: of want to and and I think when you look
15:19
Speaker 1: at the sideline, when you're on defense and you see
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Speaker 1: number ten standing there, you just assume anything is possible
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Speaker 1: and any depthic sit and I think they did that
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Speaker 1: last year. Yes, for the losing three out of their
15:29
Speaker 1: final four games. Um, you still think about those fourth
15:33
Speaker 1: quarter comebacks or the way he played against the Browns,
15:36
Speaker 1: the way he played against the steelers. You know, all
15:38
Speaker 1: those games where Herbert Magic, you know, in the fourth
15:41
Speaker 1: quarter against the raiders when the season seemingly was lost,
15:44
Speaker 1: and yet they get to the final three seconds of
15:46
Speaker 1: overtime of going to the playoffs. So I think those
15:49
Speaker 1: two players have changed that sort of mindset Um, but
15:54
Speaker 1: until they do it, you know, I think that that
15:56
Speaker 1: question is certainly worthy of being asked. And you also
16:00
Speaker 1: cover football on a national level and frankly, we're not
16:03
Speaker 1: used to the Jaguars being talked about on a national
16:06
Speaker 1: level and then all of a sudden I'm seeing that
16:08
Speaker 1: this week, which is kind of crazy because it's only
16:10
Speaker 1: one win over the colts. But what is your mindset
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Speaker 1: of this Jaguars team coming into Los Angeles? Yeah, it's
16:16
Speaker 1: funny you say that because I'm actually driving. I'm going
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Speaker 1: to do k's show right now. I do it every
16:21
Speaker 1: week for power rankings with her on up and atoms,
16:24
Speaker 1: and we were talking about okay, what are the teams
16:26
Speaker 1: we talked about? Well, let's make sure we hit the
16:28
Speaker 1: cowboys with Cooper Rush. Do we not believe it all
16:30
Speaker 1: at the forty niners with Jimmy Garoppolo, and then the
16:32
Speaker 1: Jaguars came up and you know, we kind of had
16:35
Speaker 1: this little mini conversation of you know, we only have
16:39
Speaker 1: twelve minutes for this segment. We wanted the packers. Do
16:42
Speaker 1: we want to hit the bills? Do you know? And
16:44
Speaker 1: it's like jugs. They deserve some love. Like this is
16:49
Speaker 1: an interesting team. They you know, they've had all these
16:51
Speaker 1: first round picks that have not come to fruition, that
16:54
Speaker 1: have gone bust, and now it looks like they're hitting them.
16:56
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence and obviously with with Josh Allen and now
17:00
Speaker 1: being able to be teamed up with Trayvon Walker, like
17:02
Speaker 1: that is a formidable front. I'm on the West Coast.
17:05
Speaker 1: I called College Football Games still a little bit. When
17:07
Speaker 1: I have windows to do so, I'll be calling the
17:09
Speaker 1: Utah USD games for Devon Lloyd, someone I'm completely familiar with.
17:13
Speaker 1: Like that's a good, young, athletic, Nightmarish Front that you've
17:18
Speaker 1: got to contend with. Um, I think it starts there.
17:21
Speaker 1: I think Trevor Lawrence, you know, because we had heard
17:23
Speaker 1: so much about him being a generational talent, and I
17:26
Speaker 1: totally believe that's still a very real possibility with his
17:29
Speaker 1: size and athleticism and, you know, ability to play that position.
17:33
Speaker 1: What he showed at Clemson and how many games they won. Um.
17:36
Speaker 1: So I think there is more of a national attention
17:40
Speaker 1: put on them just because of the way they beat
17:42
Speaker 1: the cold. So many people had pegged the cold as
17:45
Speaker 1: the top ten team, uh, as sort of the V
17:48
Speaker 1: team to come out of the A F C south,
17:50
Speaker 1: and to see them manhandled h that way. Yeah, they
17:52
Speaker 1: had some injuries on the offensive line, but I think
17:55
Speaker 1: we've seen, you know those and look, it wasn't I
18:00
Speaker 1: want to see it. Look, it definitely wasn't the consensus kick.
18:02
Speaker 1: There are a lot of people wondering if that production
18:04
Speaker 1: of Aidan Hutchinson was being overlooked for the potential of
18:07
Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker, and now I think you're starting to see
18:09
Speaker 1: why this guy could end up being a real problem
18:11
Speaker 1: with that length, strength and athleticism. And look for the chargers,
18:15
Speaker 1: they lost their right tackle halfway through that game, uh,
18:18
Speaker 1: and that's when you started to see it get leaky
18:20
Speaker 1: on that side. When storm came in to replace Trade Pipkins,
18:23
Speaker 1: they lost their starting center and all pro and Corey
18:26
Speaker 1: Linsley for the second half of that game. So that's
18:29
Speaker 1: gonna be a problem, you know, I think. And and
18:31
Speaker 1: if you can do it, if you can affect Herbert,
18:33
Speaker 1: then certainly it's going to be even more of a
18:35
Speaker 1: national conversation. Of Hey, a lot of people are talking
18:38
Speaker 1: about the jazz plus seven fifty going into the season
18:41
Speaker 1: as as potential winners of the the ANC south, and
18:43
Speaker 1: those people have been pretty pretty good about their wallets
18:46
Speaker 1: right now. Absolutely well, Matt Smith, thank you so much
18:49
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18:51
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18:54
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. George, trip out. Thanks, Matt. Thank you
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Speaker 1: or that's on a Wednesday, comparing and contrasting. And Brian Sexton,
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Speaker 1: you were up first. Well, I'll go with Um. There's
19:29
Speaker 1: a lot of science to traveling, especially when you go
19:32
Speaker 1: to some place like Denver where there's altitude. John Um,
19:36
Speaker 1: I remember in two thousand Nineteen Tommy Mice Linsky, who
19:40
Speaker 1: at the time was the strength and performance coach found
19:43
Speaker 1: a humidifier about the size of a cell phone and
19:47
Speaker 1: put one in each player's room because they found the
19:49
Speaker 1: guys were dehydrated when you go from sea level to altitude,
19:54
Speaker 1: and they felt like it worked because the guys felt
19:56
Speaker 1: fresh the next day, and the Jaguars, of course, one
19:58
Speaker 1: if you call on the the late Josh Lambo Field Goal.
20:01
Speaker 1: So you're going West, do you do you dive down
20:03
Speaker 1: the rabbit hole of science, or do you just practice,
20:06
Speaker 1: travel and play? Because, you know, listening to the coach
20:09
Speaker 1: talk the other day, it seemed like they were just
20:11
Speaker 1: gonna keep it simple, try to stay on the East
20:13
Speaker 1: Coast time, which we talked about on Monday, and show
20:15
Speaker 1: up and play. Well, I think he'll bring the science
20:18
Speaker 1: into it and, as I was thinking about that, would
20:21
Speaker 1: really be awful is if you had a cell phone
20:22
Speaker 1: the size of a humidifier, because that wouldn't work at all,
20:25
Speaker 1: but it uh. I think what you need to do here.
20:31
Speaker 1: I like the approach he's taken. They're going Saturday, they're
20:34
Speaker 1: going close to their normal time. Give these guys the
20:38
Speaker 1: least amount of time to think about. Don't give them
20:40
Speaker 1: an excuse for being late for the plane on Saturday.
20:43
Speaker 1: Make sure you just stay in the same in the
20:45
Speaker 1: same routine. I like that idea. I always thought I
20:49
Speaker 1: never minded going West early, but I thought it was
20:52
Speaker 1: a little bit overrated. So I think doug is taking
20:55
Speaker 1: the approach of keep things the same, keep them into
20:59
Speaker 1: their routine and then have the trainers and the and
21:02
Speaker 1: the and the medical people, whoever does that, bring in
21:05
Speaker 1: the science without him emphasizing. Well, you heard the players
21:08
Speaker 1: talking about in the locker room on Monday or at
21:09
Speaker 1: the podium on Monthy. They were talking about how you
21:11
Speaker 1: get on it early and I think, I think there's
21:15
Speaker 1: a balance because I have heard that Doug Peterson is
21:17
Speaker 1: implementing this role where they go to bed earlier this
21:20
Speaker 1: trip to kind of make it equivalent to the time
21:22
Speaker 1: they would go to bed on the east coast. So
21:24
Speaker 1: I do think he has a science approach to it,
21:27
Speaker 1: but he's not going to harp on it. He's not
21:28
Speaker 1: going to be Mr Science at the podium and talk
21:30
Speaker 1: all about it. But the science to win the game.
21:32
Speaker 1: It doesn't win the game showing up ready to go
21:34
Speaker 1: winto the game, but getting yourself there in the best
21:37
Speaker 1: physical condition to be able to execute the game plan. Well,
21:40
Speaker 1: that's a worthy conversation. Yeah, and frankly, what they've been
21:43
Speaker 1: doing hasn't worked on the West Coast, going out early,
21:46
Speaker 1: doing all these things to get an edge, you could say.
21:49
Speaker 1: But I love what coach Peterson said on Monday. You
21:51
Speaker 1: have to bring a good team out there. That's the reason.
21:53
Speaker 1: What they had players has been working on the West
21:56
Speaker 1: Coast because they've been playing on the west coast. They
22:00
Speaker 1: played on the East Coast, which is poor. I mean,
22:02
Speaker 1: when you don't have a good team, you're going to
22:04
Speaker 1: go west and get beat. I guess what they lost
22:07
Speaker 1: out here without traveling west? Ugly. So I mean all
22:13
Speaker 1: of that. You know, it's all about the players. When
22:15
Speaker 1: I covered the colts, you know what they used to do.
22:17
Speaker 1: They used to go to the West Coast and win
22:18
Speaker 1: because they were good. They wanted home to this team hasn't.
22:21
Speaker 1: When this team gets better, and I think it is,
22:23
Speaker 1: I think they'll be more competitive about here, I mean
22:26
Speaker 1: on the West Coast on sign but I think one
22:27
Speaker 1: of the reasons why the science conversation comes in is
22:29
Speaker 1: because it's the third youngest team. We talked earlier about
22:32
Speaker 1: in understanding, a focus, a maturity. How you to handle
22:36
Speaker 1: the prosperity of winning right. So you have to make
22:38
Speaker 1: sure that this team understands that they have to take
22:41
Speaker 1: care of themselves this week and they have to do
22:43
Speaker 1: everything at home that they need to do. Go to
22:45
Speaker 1: sleep early, hydrate, all those things. I mean, you need
22:48
Speaker 1: every edge you can get. You're looking for and you're
22:50
Speaker 1: looking for players who are great players, who understand that
22:55
Speaker 1: this or that is uh, I'm gonna read it off
22:57
Speaker 1: the screen. What's tougher? The streets the Jaguars extended in
23:01
Speaker 1: week two, which was the home streak against the colts,
23:03
Speaker 1: or the one they will try to break this week. Um,
23:07
Speaker 1: I think less people think about this streak because it's
23:09
Speaker 1: over the course of time, but the the Jaguars have
23:14
Speaker 1: beaten the colts eight straight times here. They've lost five
23:18
Speaker 1: times out west to the chargers, and the numbers are ugly.
23:21
Speaker 1: The closest game was thirty nine. Twenty nine. When was
23:25
Speaker 1: that in during covid and that was that didn't feel
23:29
Speaker 1: like thirty. That's the closest margin. The others are twenty
23:33
Speaker 1: four points, nineteen points, twenty five points and thirteen points.
23:38
Speaker 1: They've never been they've never cut it to double digits.
23:42
Speaker 1: That's said. None of that matters because this is this
23:45
Speaker 1: year's game. But I think as you see this team improve,
23:51
Speaker 1: you will see that west coast thing get less and less. Brian,
23:54
Speaker 1: we cover the team not together from to two thousand
23:59
Speaker 1: Um that this really wasn't a thing back then. They
24:04
Speaker 1: beat the raiders once. They played poorly a couple of
24:06
Speaker 1: times out there, but it's not a thing when you're
24:09
Speaker 1: pretty good, when you're pretty bad and you go out
24:11
Speaker 1: there and get just whacked every time, it's gonna become
24:14
Speaker 1: a famb you know. So I think this thing will
24:17
Speaker 1: go away as the team gets better. So back in
24:21
Speaker 1: those days, uh, the drivers didn't play the chargers for
24:24
Speaker 1: the first time until two thousand three, and you're already
24:26
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. UH, they didn't go to Seattle for the
24:28
Speaker 1: first time until two thousand one. So when they were
24:30
Speaker 1: really good they would oakland twice. They lost in ninety
24:34
Speaker 1: six when Jerry Ball returned that fumble, and they won
24:37
Speaker 1: in seven. So we didn't get enough of a look
24:40
Speaker 1: at it. Let's see, the rams weren't out there yet,
24:42
Speaker 1: and and and they didn't play the charges until two
24:44
Speaker 1: thousand three. So it's tough to say, but I think
24:46
Speaker 1: the point is it's it's tougher to go west and
24:49
Speaker 1: win when you're not as good a team, right, because
24:53
Speaker 1: then all of the travel and all those excuses come
24:55
Speaker 1: into sure. I mean with Peyton Manning, you could win anywhere, right.
25:00
Speaker 1: So I think it's gonna be tougher for them and
25:02
Speaker 1: Trevor and Doug. I think you're gonna get to the
25:03
Speaker 1: point where you can go cot and now it will
25:06
Speaker 1: be the story. So the eighteen straight losses, which is
25:09
Speaker 1: going to be the story, and it probably there's a
25:11
Speaker 1: good chance that it will be nineteen. And you've got
25:13
Speaker 1: that because you're going out there to play where you
25:15
Speaker 1: haven't won. I'm not picking them to win this week, right,
25:17
Speaker 1: but the the the ideal is is that you get
25:20
Speaker 1: to that point with your coach and your quarterback and
25:23
Speaker 1: your defense that you don't even we don't have this
25:25
Speaker 1: conversation just to want to play. They're going to play
25:27
Speaker 1: a good team. So the thing that that that's hurting
25:30
Speaker 1: them this week is they're going to play a team that,
25:32
Speaker 1: I think, if everyone's on the field and healthy, is
25:34
Speaker 1: just a notch below buffalo, right. I mean they're that good.
25:39
Speaker 1: With Khalil Mack now and Joey Bosa, what we talk about,
25:43
Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker and Josh Allen. These two guys ket done
25:46
Speaker 1: it at a high level consistently. So this is a
25:50
Speaker 1: really good team. They're gonna have to play their best
25:53
Speaker 1: football in a place where they haven't played well. On
25:56
Speaker 1: Ten ten. Earlier this week we were talking about how
25:59
Speaker 1: far the Jaguarsa come in just a week and the
26:01
Speaker 1: question was posed, well, if they win this week, then
26:03
Speaker 1: we truly know how far they come. And I hesitate
26:07
Speaker 1: that because truthfully, I don't think they're going to win
26:08
Speaker 1: this week. But if they can keep this game competitive,
26:11
Speaker 1: I think that shows how far they've come. If they
26:13
Speaker 1: can go make this a game on Sunday and it's
26:16
Speaker 1: relevant in the fourth quarters. How many trips have we
26:18
Speaker 1: been on where it's halftime and you're thinking, all right,
26:21
Speaker 1: you know, pack up the plane, let's go because it's
26:22
Speaker 1: not a game. If they make this competitive, that's how
26:25
Speaker 1: so far they come. I think it's important to point
26:27
Speaker 1: out they can win. It's not this team can get
26:30
Speaker 1: better and go win. It's just it's a really tall
26:33
Speaker 1: order for a young team to go there and beat
26:36
Speaker 1: that team. I just they're gonna have to play like
26:40
Speaker 1: they did on Sunday, maybe even a little better. They're
26:41
Speaker 1: gonna need takeaway still gonna need short fields, they're gonna
26:44
Speaker 1: need their quarterback to throw, you know, completion percentage. You
26:49
Speaker 1: can be good, improved and still be a playoff team
26:53
Speaker 1: and lose in Los Angeles to the chart. Yes, absolutely,
26:56
Speaker 1: all right, Mindus or that quickly, kind of relevant to
26:58
Speaker 1: what you guys just talked about. TRY TO L A
27:01
Speaker 1: or travel to London? What is more difficult? I think
27:04
Speaker 1: we all can agree it's going to be traveling to
27:06
Speaker 1: L A, because this team has traveled rather successfully to London.
27:09
Speaker 1: With that said, it's a new coaching staff, it's it's
27:12
Speaker 1: new players, it's a new team, like we've talked about
27:14
Speaker 1: the past couple of weeks. But I think the Jaguars
27:16
Speaker 1: at this point have traveling to London Down Pat where.
27:19
Speaker 1: I don't really think about it. To be honest. I
27:21
Speaker 1: don't think about the difficulty of going to that game anymore. Yeah,
27:25
Speaker 1: we don't. We don't talk about the challenges of traveling
27:28
Speaker 1: to London. We talk about it for teams who haven't
27:29
Speaker 1: been there. Um, I think the history says going to
27:34
Speaker 1: the West Coast. He's more difficult for this team than
27:36
Speaker 1: going to London. So I'll stay with that. Yeah, I
27:39
Speaker 1: think about the difficulty of traveling to London when I'm
27:41
Speaker 1: waking up at seven o'clock. I mean I still think
27:43
Speaker 1: that's a tricky trip because of the overnight part of it. Yeah,
27:47
Speaker 1: but I get your point. This team knows how to
27:49
Speaker 1: do it. It'll be interesting as we get closer. So
27:52
Speaker 1: many guys on this team and and the coaching staff
27:55
Speaker 1: hasn't haven't dealt with this together. Uh. So I think
27:59
Speaker 1: that will be a little interesting. But for the most
28:01
Speaker 1: part this is a trickier task for most of these guys.
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28:35
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28:37
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28:40
Speaker 1: the mastery of the colts at home. Guys, it's not
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28:48
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Speaker 1: The Jaguars got two whole minutes of good morning football,
29:10
Speaker 1: like we just talked about with Matt Smitt from the chargers.
29:13
Speaker 1: Starting to have to talk about him, maybe just a
29:15
Speaker 1: little bit, but hey, it's progress. Right. Sure, yeah, I'm
29:20
Speaker 1: not into the national media, but but I know the
29:24
Speaker 1: fans love that, so it's it's cool to see that.
29:27
Speaker 1: I know that makes people happy, but these guys don't care.
29:30
Speaker 1: They don't care. They want respect from the other teams
29:33
Speaker 1: right Um, and occasionally, I guess, on social media, they
29:37
Speaker 1: care a little bit about that. But Doug talked off
29:39
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29:42
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