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Love Island Scoop, West’s Girlfriend Rumors & Why The Valley Is Birth Control · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 4: We always have so much fun together. So let's get
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  Speaker 4: into it. Last night, because you are an influencer, you're
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  Speaker 4: in with the girlies, you're at Coachella, you're doing all
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  Speaker 4: the things, you're at the Hulu, you know, premieres, and
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  Speaker 4: you were out of that last night for the premiere of...
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  Speaker 4: Love Island, which is on Peacock, which is getting a
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  Speaker 4: lot of heat, like, coming back again.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Ariana's still the host.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, we love her.
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  Speaker 4: And do they still do long shots of her ass
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  Speaker 4: jiggling through, like, a netted bathing suit?
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  Speaker 2: Like, a netted cover-up?
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  Speaker 5: No, she wore something very classic this time.
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  Speaker 3: She wore, like, a black... One of those, like... Is
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  Speaker 3: it called, like, a sculpted dress? Like, one side was, like,
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  Speaker 3: a shape.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: And then, like, she had, like, a very, like, fancy, like,
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  Speaker 3: Betty Boop-ish hair. Not Betty Boop, but, like, very, like.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know. Oh, like the old-fashioned swirl. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: like that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And she's still brunette.
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  Speaker 5: She's still brunette. She said she was going to stay
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  Speaker 5: brunette all summer.
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  Speaker 4: She came up to me at this, like, Spotify party.
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  Speaker 4: And as brunette, right when she... I did not know
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  Speaker 4: who she, like I did not know.
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  Speaker 2: Who she was for a little bit. I was like, no, like,
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  Speaker 2: who's this pretty girl? And you know, she's talking to
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  Speaker 2: me like, we've known each other. Like we've known each
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  Speaker 2: other for like 10 years. But I was just, and
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  Speaker 2: I was like, ah.
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  Speaker 4: And then, and then like Brandy and Julie are like,
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  Speaker 4: oh my God, like, can you believe Ariana said that?
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  Speaker 2: And I go, who's Ariana? She's like, that's who. So
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  Speaker 2: I wonder if she's with her brown long hair going
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  Speaker 2: a little more of a vibe.
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  Speaker 3: You should see my story. She's totally doing the cunty walk.
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  Speaker 3: She's owning it.
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  Speaker 5: That's what I love about Love Island. I love how
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  Speaker 5: slutty it is.
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  Speaker 2: Now, who was the.
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  Speaker 4: Host before Skandoval and before she got it?
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  Speaker 3: I think it was Sarah Hyland and nobody really moved
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  Speaker 3: from Modern Family.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's right. And that's Wells Adams' wife. Yes. From
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  Speaker 2: The Bachelor. Yes. Yes. Wow, do you think she's bummed
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  Speaker 2: about it?
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  Speaker 4: She's probably like, Welles, if you only fucking cheated with
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  Speaker 4: my best friend, I could still have this gig.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I think it is?
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  Speaker 3: I just feel like CBS didn't know how to handle
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  Speaker 3: Love Island. So I feel like now that Peacock has it,
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  Speaker 3: I feel like everything was just a perfect storm of
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  Speaker 3: getting cheated on by Tom Sandoval.
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  Speaker 5: Now you're the host of Love Island. Love Island is
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  Speaker 5: a whole fight.
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  Speaker 2: Do they still have the sandwich shop?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, and the sandwiches are good.
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  Speaker 3: No, I know.
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  Speaker 2: The sandwiches are great.
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  Speaker 5: I live right by there. I walk by there all
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  Speaker 5: the time.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then also Katie is going to be kind
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  Speaker 4: of like a semi-regular on Stassi's show.
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  Speaker 2: So everyone's working but Tom Sandoval. Yes. Oh, wow. Well,
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  Speaker 2: he's doing trivia and singing and stuff. Oh, is he?
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  Speaker 3: I was going to say, do we have a pulse
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  Speaker 3: check on Tom Sandoval? He's not been in my face.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like I know what Sheena's doing more than
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  Speaker 3: I know what Tom Sandoval's doing. I really shouldn't know
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  Speaker 3: what Sheena's.
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  Speaker 2: Doing at all.
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  Speaker 4: Sheena also was performing Good as Gold at some outdoor thing.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, with her daughter there.
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  Speaker 2: And she's like, oh, I'm showing my daughter my dream.
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Do you think, before we get into, well, we'll get
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  Speaker 4: into the Valley, but do you think that Sheena regrets
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  Speaker 4: not being on the Valley?
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  Speaker 5: Was she asked to be on the Valley?
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  Speaker 2: We don't totally know.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like there was no- I think that.
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  Speaker 4: Could be a little bit of a mystery. I love Sheena.
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  Speaker 2: She's always been great to me. I like her.
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  Speaker 4: When I listened to her podcast episode where she had
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  Speaker 4: Alex Baskin, the producer of the Valley, on, she said,
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  Speaker 4: he said, we gave you a compelling offer. You chose
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  Speaker 4: not to take it, whatever that might mean. I thought
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  Speaker 4: it might've been like paper scene, be a friend. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know what it was, but I was like, why
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't you take that? Like, especially if it wasn't exclusive,
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  Speaker 4: like why? And she had said, I read a comment
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  Speaker 4: that said, Sheena on the Valley is like the girl
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  Speaker 4: that goes back to high school or something. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: Do you imagine if you're the one person that wrote
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  Speaker 4: that comment and you realize that you wrote that and
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  Speaker 4: you were like.
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  Speaker 2: And it touched lives. And you ended up not going
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  Speaker 2: back to this TV show.
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  Speaker 4: But then I've also heard that maybe that really wasn't
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  Speaker 4: the case.
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  Speaker 2: And this was a soft landing agreement.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, they're letting her tell her story.
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  Speaker 4: But I also think because they're so entwined and stuff,
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  Speaker 4: especially with reality TV, especially with this group. certainly she
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  Speaker 4: could come back next year if there's a reason or
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  Speaker 4: she wants to, or there's something happening within their lives.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know that Sheena like cared that much about
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  Speaker 3: public opinion versus like how she moves. Like who cares
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  Speaker 3: if some random like commenter told you like you're going
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  Speaker 3: back to high school. Like that's something that seemed, that
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  Speaker 3: doesn't seem like that would deter.
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  Speaker 5: Her at all.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, listen, I've been on, listen, I know how
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  Speaker 4: mean comments can affect you.
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  Speaker 2: And, it goes in ways.
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  Speaker 4: And I think some people figure it out real quick
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  Speaker 4: and are fine. And it's like, you know, the only
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  Speaker 4: way to, to read a mean comment, even though some
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  Speaker 4: of those commenters, wow, they're good.
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  Speaker 2: They're good. They are clever.
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  Speaker 5: They really hit her where it hurts too.
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  Speaker 4: They come up with things that you didn't even know
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  Speaker 4: would bother you.
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  Speaker 2: And you're like, fucking right.
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  Speaker 3: I know and then she's like actually alex baskin i
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  Speaker 3: won't be coming back to the valley all condolences like whatever.
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  Speaker 7: But those people aren't on tv and they're not seeing
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  Speaker 7: they don't know they're not living the life you're living
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  Speaker 7: so it's like you have to like remember that but
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  Speaker 7: anyway um yes i.
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  Speaker 3: Get mad about that though because it's like okay these
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  Speaker 3: commenters like yeah they get to you but it's like
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  Speaker 3: they don't live the life that you live like It's
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  Speaker 3: like when these people from Love Island get canceled or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: And it's like, okay, yeah, that girl shouldn't be saying
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  Speaker 3: the N-word, but you guys really dug this up to
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  Speaker 3: expose her. And it's like, I just don't believe we
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  Speaker 3: should be living in the society where we expose people
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  Speaker 3: to expose people. It just shows me that you don't
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  Speaker 3: have enough, you're jealous of what they've got going on,
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  Speaker 3: so you've decided to do this.
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  Speaker 5: You know what it reminds me of?
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  Speaker 4: It reminds me of that trending soundbite, which is the
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  Speaker 4: guy being like, yeah, but do you have views like
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  Speaker 4: this in Kansas?
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  Speaker 2: Have you ever seen that?
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  Speaker 4: When people are like, I would never live in California.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, okay, but you don't have a view like this,
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  Speaker 4: whatever that is.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, in like Topeka, Kansas. Yeah, or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: But, you know, um... So you were at this.
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  Speaker 5: Event at- Laurel Hardware.
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  Speaker 2: Which is a cute restaurant in West Hollywood.
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  Speaker 3: At first I was like, why are we doing this
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  Speaker 3: at Laurel Hardware? And then I think in my mind,
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  Speaker 3: I think Laurel Hardware is like smaller than it is.
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  Speaker 3: And I go there and I'm like, oh, I guess
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  Speaker 3: this is kind of a scene.
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  Speaker 4: When someone first asked me about it, I'm like, why
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  Speaker 4: are we going to Ace Hardware store? Like, I like
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  Speaker 4: literally thought it was a hardware.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, wait, what? We're meeting?
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  Speaker 3: And they have like a supply store now that's like
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  Speaker 3: the new Erewhon and they're low-key stealing Erewhon's nachos. Oh.
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  Speaker 4: I saw that they, you know, it's so interesting that
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  Speaker 4: they're just like, if you just put some oats in
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  Speaker 4: like a glass jar, it's a whole different thing.
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  Speaker 5: And you can charge $ 31.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Like.
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  Speaker 2: And then you put some tables outside, it's like this obscure.
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  Speaker 5: Lunch spot, I love it. That's what I love about LA,
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  Speaker 5: it's all so stupid.
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  Speaker 4: I know, it's like, let's go back to the old
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  Speaker 4: west times, where it's like, you know when you see
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  Speaker 4: an old, like a fake little west saloon, that's like
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  Speaker 4: what they wanted.
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  Speaker 5: But put it next to a glossier, and it's cunt.
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  Speaker 3: Like, yes, let's go to Glossier and then let's go
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  Speaker 3: have a lunch and eat oats in a jar and
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  Speaker 3: like just have a fun time.
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  Speaker 2: And that's considered like a good, wholesome afternoon. Yes, absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: So you were there. Tell me about it. It was fun.
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  Speaker 3: Some of, like, the other stars from last season were there.
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  Speaker 3: You can tell they hated being there as contractual boots.
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  Speaker 3: But it was just, like, really funny because I feel
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  Speaker 3: like it's funny with Love Island because they don't all
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  Speaker 3: really watch the show because, like, one, I feel like
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  Speaker 3: it's too much to watch for them.
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  Speaker 5: It's on every day. And I feel like they're just
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  Speaker 5: so affected by the.
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  Speaker 3: Internet and they're just kind of like, you can tell
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  Speaker 3: they're there and they're there to have fun, but the
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  Speaker 3: moment it's over, it's like, okay, I gotta go. Like,
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  Speaker 3: you can totally feel bad for everyone else who's in
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  Speaker 3: the villa. Like, it reads across their face like, ugh,
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  Speaker 3: so glad that's not me. Like.
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  Speaker 4: And so this show is another one of those shows
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  Speaker 4: where two people will make a actual fucking, meaning they're screwing,
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  Speaker 4: alliance until a bombshell comes in.
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  Speaker 5: And they change their mind.
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  Speaker 2: And obviously everyone's tested for STDs.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 5: Two drink minimum.
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  Speaker 2: But do they get tested then every week? That I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. Are there EPT tests everywhere? Pregnancy tests that
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  Speaker 2: you can take?
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  Speaker 5: Well- I'm sure there are, because they all sleep in
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  Speaker 5: the same room. Some of them do fuck in the
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  Speaker 5: same room.
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  Speaker 4: And are they required to wear condoms? Does a producer
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  Speaker 4: come in and tap you on the shoulder and say,
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  Speaker 4: you forgot to put this on?
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: They don't put that in there.
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  Speaker 3: Did you see the scene last season of the girl
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  Speaker 3: who like licked her hand and then she, because they
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  Speaker 3: were fucking and then she like licked her hand and
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  Speaker 3: then she like, they zoomed in on her and then
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  Speaker 3: when she got a million followers on Instagram or TikTok,
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  Speaker 3: she had like a one million dollar cake. Her name's
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  Speaker 3: Hannah and now she's on Beyond the Villa. But she
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  Speaker 3: had like a cake that said one mil and then
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  Speaker 3: she like licked the frosting and then....
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  Speaker 4: Listen, I understand the job market is tough out there.
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  Speaker 2: I get it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, now do you see one of the contestants, he's
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  Speaker 3: from Pennsylvania. He was a cop in Pennsylvania.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And the mayor of Pennsylvania is mad at him for
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  Speaker 3: being on the violent and not protecting the streets of Pennsylvania. Now,
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  Speaker 3: what the fuck does that have to do with him?
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  Speaker 3: He's not the Hulk. He's not Iron Man. He's not
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  Speaker 3: going to save all of Pennsylvania just because he decided
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  Speaker 3: to go to the violent in Fiji.
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  Speaker 2: It just gives hater. I'm like, okay, so of course
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  Speaker 2: you don't want to have a real job.
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  Speaker 4: But wait, getting back to this, because now I'm really
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  Speaker 4: truly obsessed.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, this guy's a Nepo contestant.
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  Speaker 2: His brother was on last season, so he went through
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  Speaker 2: the cracks.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, this girl, Sabrina Carpenter Dupe.
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  Speaker 2: The blonde.
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  Speaker 3: She was busting it wide open in her intro. You
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  Speaker 3: have to see it. She's on the beach and there's water.
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  Speaker 3: I wish I could reenact it here. It was crazy. Actually,
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  Speaker 3: can I?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Oh my God, no, literally?
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  Speaker 2: You gotta stay by the mic, though.
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  Speaker 5: You can tell she's practiced this in the mirror at
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  Speaker 5: least 1,100 times.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, good for her.
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  Speaker 5: And they said, action. The waves are crashing. She's busting
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  Speaker 5: it open.
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  Speaker 2: And it's like, hi. I don't even know her name.
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna say her name's Sabrina.
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  Speaker 2: She's like, it's me.
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  Speaker 5: And then, like, you see her whole pussy.
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  Speaker 2: It is, and I was like, whoa. But, like I said,
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  Speaker 2: it's a slut boot show. I'm down. I mean, listen.
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  Speaker 4: It's crazy that, like, this type of stuff, obviously, a
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  Speaker 4: lot of these people, I'm sure... If they don't already
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  Speaker 4: have their OnlyFans, go on to OnlyFans. And like I said,
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  Speaker 4: it's a hard economy out there to get a job.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 5: And this will give you all the jobs.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe I'll watch it.
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  Speaker 5: You need to watch it every day.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like it's on every day.
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  Speaker 5: It's just so ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: Is it once a week? Is it really on every day?
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  Speaker 2: That's a lot for me.
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  Speaker 3: It's on every day. They do the After Suns on Saturdays.
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  Speaker 3: No one really likes After Sun, but I feel like
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  Speaker 3: they're going to like it because Sierra is going to
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  Speaker 3: be hosting After Sun.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, good for her.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, getting into Sierra.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: So Amanda had kissed Kyle. This is Summer House. On
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  Speaker 4: the same day that she and West kissed for the first.
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  Speaker 2: Time, allegedly.
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  Speaker 4: So they said the first time we kissed was at
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  Speaker 4: this brunch. But I guess at the brunch.
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  Speaker 5: She kissed Kyle to be like, oh, my God.
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  Speaker 2: Like, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But so people think she kissed Kyle because she was
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  Speaker 4: already getting with West and she was kind of trying
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  Speaker 4: to make West a little jealous.
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  Speaker 2: Of course.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, first of all, let's talk about it. It's
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  Speaker 4: the second episode of The Reunion.
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  Speaker 5: Pretty juicy for a part two.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and the juiciest part is it comes out that West.
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  Speaker 4: really had a whole nother girlfriend.
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  Speaker 5: When they pulled up the camera on her, I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: we're going there.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, oh my God, she's speaking.
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  Speaker 5: I could not believe that. I was like.
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  Speaker 4: And basically he told this girl that was his girlfriend
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  Speaker 4: for months that he said he was exclusive with, but
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  Speaker 4: that he couldn't be public with because it would hurt his.
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  Speaker 2: Standing with Bravo.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: That they would only want, him to date people that
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  Speaker 4: were on the show. Which is crazy, because has this
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  Speaker 4: girl never seen reality TV? I mean, everybody become, not everybody,
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  Speaker 4: but Amanda became a reality TV star because Kyle was
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  Speaker 4: dating her. Brittany got on the show because Jax Taylor
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  Speaker 4: dated her. you can get your way on a show
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  Speaker 4: by being the significant other.
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  Speaker 2: There's no weird secret to it. But he obviously lied.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't want her there.
• 13:52
  Speaker 3: He also was fucking around with Sierra, like, in the
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: last few moments of the episodes of, like, you know.
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: And then also, like, he was, like, I don't know,
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: he was entertaining other girls, kind of. Like, he was
• 14:04
  Speaker 3: going out partying.
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know. He's kind of slimy now, no? Oh,
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: my God, yes.
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: It's... He's... And it's like the mid boys always get
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: away with this. It's always like the guys who are
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: like a little mid, but they're so fun and they
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: care about you and they like they are so immersed
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: in you. And it's like those are the ones you
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: have to watch out for. At least when the hot
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: guys fuck you over. It's like, oh, well, he was hot.
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: Like I deserved it.
• 14:24
  Speaker 4: I've always said that. I'm always like, you know, I
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: remember one time a friend was like, don't. Lower yourself
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: to someone that's not at your level thinking that they'll
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: kiss your ass and be grateful.
• 14:37
  Speaker 6: No.
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: Because those guys are.
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: The worst because they weren't always hot and now they're
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: getting undeserved pussy and they.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: Then have horrible ego.
• 14:51
  Speaker 4: A guy that was always getting it and didn't have
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: to work that hard at it.
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah. They're like, fine.
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: But these ones that you think are like, you think
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: you're doing your Christian service hours. You think you're doing
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: your charity work. You're like, I'm always going to be.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: The hottest one.
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: And I've said that. I know this guy is that
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: type that's like.
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: Oh my God, you're totally out of my league.
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: And acts so into you.
• 15:15
  Speaker 5: And then they drop you like a hot pocket and
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: you're like, are you fucking serious?
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: I mean, apparently there are people witnessing this. Amanda and
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: West right now are at a wedding.
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: In Rome.
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: In Rome, which was a friend of West's or something.
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: But there is a report, I don't know how this
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: came about, how they got the evidence of the actual invitation.
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: So I don't know if this is true, but that
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: the invitation was to West and Amanda.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: And so they've been dating.
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: That would change their timeline because you have to send
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: those out six weeks in advance, especially when it's a
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: European wedding. And there's probably was a save date prior
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: to that. But so we all know this weird story
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: of them saying, oh, we didn't have sex till after
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: we put out the announcement.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: Like, is this 1955?
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: Is this like a shotgun wedding where you're like? lying
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: about your child's age your whole life because you were
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: actually too much pregnant when you married the farmer's daughter.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: Like, what are you talking, like, this is so.
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know why they're lying about the timeline. I
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: feel like people would respect them a lot more if
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: they just said, like, this is it.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: Like, it's just, like, so ridiculous to me.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: And it feels, and also, I don't believe they're, like,
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: in a real relationship at this time when the reunion's airing.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: I feel like they forced themselves into having to be
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: a couple and they were just, like, fucking and, like,
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: going on dates and, like, enjoying each other. And now
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: I feel like they've convinced themselves they have to be
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: in this relationship so it looks better. And I just
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: don't think it has to be all of that. I
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: feel like now they're probably like in a closer relationship
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: because they're in Rome now and they're obviously doing things
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: together and they feel bonded because everybody hates them.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: But I just like I'm like, are you guys together?
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: Like, you don't have to be doing all of this.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Like, just say you like had the urge. You hated
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: your husband.
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: Amanda, just say you fucking hate Kyle.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: Like, just say that.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: I think she really is going to want to make
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: this work with Wes, for sure.
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but Wes isn't going to want to make that
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: work with her, like at all.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: What I just think is so crazy is that she
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: really blew the opportunity to one day host Love Island.
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: I know, but she was going to be lazy and
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: never do that anyway.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: People used to think Ariana was lazy, but when it came.
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: I never thought she was lazy.
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying people kind of thought that. She was
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: not a booming personality on the show.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: My opinion on Ariana is that I feel like she
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: wanted to do things with Tom and they were trying
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: to be more of a team and that's how they
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: saw themselves. I don't want to say she never felt
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: comfortable branching out, but it just seems like Tom was
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: always in her head. So I feel like that's the difference.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: But Amanda, when they were arguing in the first episode
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: about her being naked.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: In the pool.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: I'm like, Amanda, you should have been wearing your swimwear line, honestly. Like,
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: why are you fighting about being naked in the pool?
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: Where's Amanda Padula swim?
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Wait, explain the naked in the pool part.
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: She was, so the first weekend of the summer when
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: they're there, like, she got, like.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Who's she?
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: Amanda.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Amanda, okay. She got, like, I don't want.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: To say naked, but she, like, had her undergarments in
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: the pool with the guys.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: And you saw Wes' face go.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Because her boobs are really good. Yeah.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: And they appear to be, like, natural. And then she
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: wore just, like, a. A bando bra instead of a
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: regular bikini.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: And Kyle was mad because she was like having fun
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: in the pool and he was like mad that she
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: was like naked. And I was like, well, you shouldn't
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: really be having this argument. You should be hawking your
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: swimwear line like your husband is hawking his alcohol.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: We love our boy every minute.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Forcing these new girls to like get in your good
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: graces by wearing your swim line.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't hear anything.
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: I don't think she wanted to do it.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: I think she was just forced into doing it because
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: like Paige was like, you should like do something for yourself.
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: But does she want to do something for herself?
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: No.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: Or was she already like flirting and everything and feeling
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: it for West and thinking like.
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: I'm just going to withdraw. But what is West going
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: to do for you?
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Like what?
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: Well that's what I didn't understand is when people would
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: always say pick me. I didn't understand what pick me
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: girl meant but it really means that you're that girl
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: that just wants to be chosen by the guy.
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: And so because Kyla had like many other girls and
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: So then she felt special that like he was like, OK.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: You're the one, even though he's, you know, not always.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: And he was faithful or whatever.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: So West has had many different girls. So then there's
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: this moment where Amanda in the reunion goes, I didn't
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: know how to tell you that I had feelings for
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: a guy who was also seeing another girl. And Sierra's like,
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: you're telling me who had an on and off dating
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: relationship with this guy that like screwed up my brain
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: and my heart for two years. That's what you were, again,
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: you were, that's where it's like, yeah, she's not winning anymore.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Points. I think she's definitely on like a beta blocker
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: or something.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: I think she, I just think Amanda's not smart. I
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: don't think she thought this through. They had a month
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: to think it through. I just feel like, I feel
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: like everyone's wondering like, why is she doing this?
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't think she knows why.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: I honestly don't think because she didn't share it with anybody.
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: Of like, I'm really, I'm having a feeling like if
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: she was just like picked up the phone and called
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: a friend and was like, I know this is crazy,
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: but like West kind of like touched my ass. And
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I think something's going on and I'm just, or,
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: or I made out with West and I don't want
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: anyone to know. If she had a real friend, they'd
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: be like, Amanda, like this guy's going to get over
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: with you in a month right now. you're finally sticking
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: up for yourself to a guy that we've seen on camera,
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: not treat you great. You are going to be the Ariana.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: This is going to, this is, you should have never
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: even been on TV.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: You're on TV. Cause you were kind of a hanger on.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: So now you have this opportunity.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: And now I'm sure there's like, if there are any
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: brand deals in the works, cause there was this little window.
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: Of, Where she had that weed brand deal.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: She had the weed and she was like wearing... She
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: was a cool girl.
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: She was kind of in her Luann era. Like, don't
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: be all uncool.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Like, she was kind of having like a mandesance.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: Yes, and it was like smoking weed and smoking cigarettes
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: and wearing low-rise jeans.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: And everyone's like, let her smoke weed. And everyone's like,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: good for her.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: Like, that guy, you know. So she had this little
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: window and now it's just very.
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: And now Sierra took all your nachos.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: She took them all.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: And rightfully so, though.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: I just, yeah, you're, okay, because Sierra's doing the after show,
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: I totally agree. I think if Amanda had embraced it,
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: had every girl be like, that's my girl.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: You kick him to the curb.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: You finally stood up for yourselves. You have your two
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: girls behind you being like, you go, Amanda. If she'd
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: never fallen for West and his horrible outfits and his
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: biting his fingernails, And his gross mustache.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: She had just not fallen into that.
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: And he didn't even steam the back of his blazer.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: This could have been such a great story. Now, it's
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: still TV. There's still things that could happen.
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: I hate.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: To be such like a baby wanter, but I'm still like, again.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: If they have a baby.
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: They're not having a baby.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying that is the one way to save this.
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 22:21
  Speaker 8: Also.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Going back to the Love Island.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: So it is kind of crazy when you think about
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: it that in all the different seasons of Love Island
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: and all the different reality shows where people are sleeping together,
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: how has no one gotten knocked up?
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: IUD maybe.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: I wonder if they do say, we need to know
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: that you are on like a very, very strong birth control.
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: On Love Island, I'm sure they ask.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I wonder if that is a requirement.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: And I would like to know. It has to be.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: But like. But then someone could go, no. I think
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: they have to use a condom on the island. It
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: doesn't work with my body. But they can't. But that's
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: what I said.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: You can't force someone to put on a condom and
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: you can't force someone to take a pill every day.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: But how.
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: But it's like, we're on Love Island. I'm going to
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: be an influencer. I don't really want to be a mom.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: I just need to know statistically.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: Maybe people have and it hasn't worked out or they've
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: chosen for it not to work out. But statistically, I
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: can't believe that there's this much boning going on with
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: these fertile people.
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: You didn't know they.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Fucked like that? In the last 20 years. No, but
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: I'm just now thinking about it. All the TV shows.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: And if you did get pregnant, could you get child
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: support from the network?
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• 24:02
  Speaker 6: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: have faced tremendous setbacks and yet somehow have found a
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Life is one long lesson of chaos. I'm heading to
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: the Emmys, and I have police complaints filed against me.
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: what would you do if it was given back?
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: Where did that need come from where you thought that
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: He said, I have a work dad. I need a
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: home dad.
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: What happens next?
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: When I came in, he started crying.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Everybody in life encounters hardships.
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: What defines them is not those hard moments that they
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: go through.
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: It's about what happens next. I decided to risk it all.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: I realized how valuable every day was.
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: You're worth the work.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Listen, Dara, I'm not going to pull punches. You can
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: use your voice even if it's shaped.
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: You probably could if you had a lawsuit. Yeah. No, literally.
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: You probably could get child support from Bravo for years.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: Just imagine for the rest of your life.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: They're like, and who's going to be paying for this
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: school tuition? Their father? Yeah, Andy Cohen. Andy Cohen. What?
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Literally.
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: Did you see his new boyfriend that he was out with?
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Andy Cohen has a new boyfriend?
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: They were posting that. It's a white guy. Age appropriate, too.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: So a couple other things.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: One other thing that always happens in a reunion, okay,
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: when someone's in the hot seat, which is clearly Amanda
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: and West.
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: So then Amanda, you know, can't take it, and she's like,
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: I have to get up and just control myself or whatever.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: She's crying. And then West is sitting there, and they're like,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: go get your girl. He should have gone up, though.
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: But then I kind of felt for him for one moment, okay,
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: when he goes... Okay, but if I go her, then
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: you'll say, I can't believe the two of them left.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: And I kind of agree. Imagine this.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: Imagine if he, she got up, upset, and he immediately
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: was like, I'm so sorry, Andy, please, let me just.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: They would be like, oh my God, the dramatics of
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: those two.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: But regardless, if that is his girlfriend and they are
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: in love, who gives a fuck what they think, go
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: and help her.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: And I think that's the point.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: He cares more about public perception than how he comes off.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Because if that were me, I'd be like, fuck them
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: for saying that.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: I'm just going to go help her. But he didn't
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: even think to move. He just sat there and was like.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Is this okay, guys? Like, ugh.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: Is everything okay and it's like no go get her
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: like if you are in love and you like her
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: and like if this is all so worth it to
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: you then like who gives a fuck what we think
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: like we're all haters.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: Like however okay however I think there are rules where
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: they say and please guys don't be getting up and
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: being dramatic that that we don't like that even though
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: people have done it over the years I think they
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: kind of get scolded for it and they're really not
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: supposed to do that I don't know about that So
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: I think just in his defense, because I think he
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: was kind of yes, I think he's an idiot and
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: wouldn't go get her if they were anywhere. But the
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: other part of it is he was kind of like, yeah,
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: if we both if I go in up after her,
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: then all these people, Kyle, Sierra, who dated them both.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: would have been like, oh my God, the performative nature
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: of like Romeo and Juliet over there.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Like I could see it being that.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: So I kind of feel in this way, he can't win.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: He can't win. He'll just be honest. Like he can't win.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: There's nothing he could do. They could be, I think
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: they're all kind of not being mean enough.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: Some people think that West went after Amanda to catch
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: more clout for himself because she was getting some love
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: for dumping kyle.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: I could see that and i could see all the
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: like west not really like liking kyle honestly like and
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: also i'm sorry like kyle calling amanda a bitch like
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: isn't that big of a deal to me like it's
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: just really not like i just like he shouldn't be
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: doing that totally agree but it's like i just don't
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: believe that like my thing is like i feel like
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: sometimes on bravo like people don't understand that two things
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: can be true like Kyle can be a shitty husband,
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: but Amanda can also not be a great wife. Like,
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: I just feel like sometimes, like, even when it comes
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: to the cheating, she says a lot without saying it. Like,
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: she'll be like, there's rumors that you cheated on me.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: And then he just sits there and it's like, that's
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: your time to say, did you do it? Like, so
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: then we can see your perspective. But like, I feel
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: like she's too busy protecting him, but hating him. And
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: then like, I feel like she's not explaining enough her
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: side of like why she's going with Wes. Cause then
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: even in the reunion, she says, she's like, well, I'm just,
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: everyone is just going to forget what Kyle did. And
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, but it's like, just say what he did.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Like say why you did this, but she doesn't really say.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: I think that they had an awful marriage. And I
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: think that he did verbally abuse her in those ways.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: And she was kind of clocking it and thinking like,
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: I'm getting out of this and I'm going to show him.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: And part of that revenge was, fell in her lap
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: with west and she was just like i don't care
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: like i've hated you for three years right and you
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: you've disrespected me so many times and spoken to me
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: so poorly like and and i know that sometimes you
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: know you're a guy so maybe to you you don't
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: think that's a big deal and sadly in many relationships
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: i think people do call each other out of their
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: name and it's really awful.
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: And we don't see the full thing.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: We don't see the full thing, but that's the whole thing.
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: Your career is sharing your personal relationship. That is what
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: pays the bills. It is really sick and weird if
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: you think about it. It's part of our world. It's
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: part of their world. But I think that, yeah, I mean,
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: I think if he's doing it in front of people
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: during the summer house, I think it's happening all year round.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: I think he's probably calling her lazy. He's probably like,
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: why didn't you stack those lover boy hands?
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: I don't like also.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: Subscribe to this thing that Amanda's like this meek person
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: who doesn't stand up for herself. I think Amanda's very opinionated.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: I feel like sometimes when she's in front of the camera,
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: she likes to be like, oh my God, look what
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: he's doing to me.
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: Can you believe he did that? She wants everyone to
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: speak for her.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: And I get why he freaked out because it's like,
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: why am I hearing this from Lindsay and Sierra? Like,
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: you don't even tell me these things. Like, and then
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: here you are like antagonizing the situation and like, cause
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: they don't communicate.
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: So like, I could see how that's fresh.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: Cause I get it when you're with someone who's in,
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: even when you have like friends, like I feel like
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: people expect you to be the bigger personality.
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: So everyone thinks that you're overdramatic and you're doing this.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: And the person who's like more like quieter is like,
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: They're seen as the victim and that's not always the case,
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: I feel.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: Like they're just as bad, but like people just don't
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: see or realize because you're louder.
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: Well, that's why Sierra says you're a snake in the grass.
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: You're like the unexpected. We thought you were this fragile,
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: you know, person, but you kind of were probably planning.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Plotting things. being quite secretive.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: With this relationship, knowing it would be hurtful when it
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: was found out, but really kind of being selfish and
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: choosing it. Like Ciara said, out of all the men,
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: like you could date anybody. But also that's what happens
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: when people have affairs. They have it with their work husband.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: They have it with. their friend's husband, they have it
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: with the neighbor. People who are there for them.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: It's because it's close and it's proximity and you actually
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: know the person. It's not, I mean, you know, not
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: a lot of people just go for a girl's weekend
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: and find the love of their life in the lobby
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: at the Bellagio.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Like, you want that to be the case.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: You want to be like, let me just have, like,
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: one fuck weekend and, like, and he's hot.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: No, it's most likely... like anything. It's going to take time.
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: It's going to take time.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: He knows you, he's comforted you numerous times when the
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: real husband has been mean.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Like, I mean, you know, what they were doing was
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: a little bit inappropriate. Like, some of the handsy stuff.
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: And then, you know, there was a time where she
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: was holding Craig's hand underneath the table.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Do you remember that part?
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: Really weird.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: There was a time where she was cuddling with her
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: friend's husband on that, like came to visit.
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Her best friend.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: And then didn't you, wasn't she doing the skinny dipping
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: with Ben and.
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: She went skinny dipping with, yeah, Ben and some other
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: people the summer before, like skinny dipping.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Like that's pretty bad. I know.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: Like that's pretty, to be totally like naked, like crotch out, like.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: With somebody other than your husband that's like a man?
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, so there you go.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: Oh, but what I'm saying is so, and then, but
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: Lindsay did that classic thing that happens with every, happens
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: on every reunion where she was like, Well, when it.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Was me in the hot seat. But she made a point. Yeah,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: but it's always like, but there's always that.
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: But Lindsay never gave a fuck even when she was.
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: She was like, fine. Like she took it and like, whatever.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: I never left. Okay.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: And Amanda was always one of those people calling her out.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: So it's like, okay, well now I'm calling you out
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: because what you did was actually bullshit. Like, you know,
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: like Lindsay never cheated on anyone. She was just being
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: nasty boots to other people.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Are you watching this city? Kind of. So apparently it's
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: gotten real good.
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: Okay, good.
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: And so there is this scene, I guess, it just
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: came out last night, where like.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: This mullet of hers, I can't. It pisses me off
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: so bad. How did she create this horrible hairdo? I
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: do not fucking know.
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: It makes me so upset. And then his back sweat.
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: I can't with that.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like.
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: He doesn't steam his clothes correctly. It really bothers me.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: He doesn't buy clothes that fit him. So this one is,
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: I guess she... Goes out to eat.
• 33:47
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: I saw the scene online. With West and Sierra.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: And this would have been shot in October of 25.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: So now, according to their timeline, they didn't start anything
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: until whatever the announcement came out, which would have been
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: March or something.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Or April.
• 34:06
  Speaker 9: Or May.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: It was end of March.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: End of March.
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: So... Right before Coachella.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: I remember because... Okay, so she.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: My astrologer kind of knows West, so I was, so
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: I was, I, did I, oh my God, I first
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: tell you, I went to one of the summer house parties.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, tell me about it.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: I went to the first one, and that's where I
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: met the, so I went with all these girls who
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: I'm friends with in New York, and my astrologer was
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: one of their friends, so she's like, oh, I live
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: in LA, and then we became friends. So anyway, she was,
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: so she's like, oh, so I know how she knows him,
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: and then so I texted her the weekend before they
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: did their, like, announcement, because I was like, what's the
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: tea girl? Didn't hear from her, like, whatever, so I
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: was like, it comes out and then she finally texts
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: me back. She goes, yeah, I didn't text you back.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: Cause like, you know, it was obvious. I was like,
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Oh my God. No, I figured your silence told me
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: the answer, but that was like late March. Yeah.
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: But I think they were like having something emotional.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: What was it like going to one of those parties?
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: Um, it was like, not as like, uh, produced as
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: I thought.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Like, Well, here's the thing.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: So they keep everyone outside the gate and they do
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: invite friends of friends. So it doesn't feel like they're
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: inviting extras or anything like that. Like my friend who
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: I was visiting, like his boss is friends with Kyle.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: So he got us on the list, like all of us.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: Was it a theme? Yeah, it was the country like
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: cowboy theme. They were doing a county fair theme. So
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: the thing is they keep you outside for like an
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: hour and they tell you to be there at a
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: certain time. So, and then Wes comes out, he brings
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: like wine and they bring lover boys. So you're drinking
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: with like in this small enclosed group of people and
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: you're all kind of meeting each other and like drinking,
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: getting to know each other. So by the time the
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: party starts and you sign the release and you get in,
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: it's not really awkward because you've talked to everybody already
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: and you're like, oh, and you've built a rapport. So
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: it does feel more like a party.
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: And there's food? They made corn dogs.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: But none of you guys are mic'd.
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: No, we're not mic'd.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: Did people go in the pool?
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: No.
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: And the music is like, you know.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Has to be low because they're filming. It was like.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Loud-ish, but it wasn't like good music until like the
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: very end of the party. They started playing good music
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: because I feel like that's what it's like B-roll.
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: Hour for them.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: When I went to the Kyle White party, what was
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: funny is at the end, then finally they basically.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: I can't remember.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: It was like Sutton and somebody else joking that like
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: they're like, oh, this is our favorite part, which is
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: now dance and act like you're having fun because now
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: we're actually done filming.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: So for always at the like, whatever you see them
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: like dancing, that's always at the end when they're like
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: just about because that's what they can turn up the music,
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: actually have you dance for 10 minutes and then you
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: can leave.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: And they're like, okay, everybody, act like Rome. Have fun.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Grab your boo. Come on. It's work. These people want
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: to leave. And it's just, they're weird.
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: It's weird going to parties that they're filmed.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: There was a time I went to a lot. Then
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: there was a time where I was turning them all down.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: And it's crazy because they spend all this money to
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: put it together. And it's like, you're not even having fun.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: You can't even play the music you want to play.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: You can't really talk to your guests.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Right. No, you can't.
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: And that's why I'm like, I can't believe that they
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: still have to pay for the... I mean, the summer
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: house people don't have to pay for their parties, but
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: like like like a housewife has to pay to host
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: her own party at her house.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: I always wonder that. Do they just invoice them at
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: the end and say, like, can you pay for some
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: of this?
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: I think in like the case of Kyle's white party,
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: since it was like really part of the show, I
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: think in the beginning she probably had to pay for
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: it all because she's like they ask, oh, what do
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: you have every year?
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: I have a white party.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: She's probably paying for it all. I would think at
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: a certain point you've been doing it for so long.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: Why wouldn't you negotiate that as part of your deal?
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: Hey, if I'm hosting three parties, I need this kind
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: of budget. I would be crazy not to ask for that.
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: But I've heard different things of what's paid or what's not,
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: and I don't know. But her party was very extravagant.
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, the flowers, all the rented furniture.
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: I can't wait to see it.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: It would be a very expensive party.
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: Was there drama?
• 38:12
  Speaker 6: No.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: Not really.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: It was just like, There was some Salt Lake housewives
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: that were avoiding each other.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I've heard they were acting very nasty. They were
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: just avoiding each other.
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: Lisa Barlow is a doll of mine.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: So they did.
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: They I talked to them all, but they were not
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: talking to each other. So I'll say that. But OK,
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: so getting back. So when you go to the party,
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: then how long like. How long do you stay? Are
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: you kind of like after a while, like, let's go?
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: So I was there for like, I want to say
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: about two hours. And then my friend was like, let's
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: go to Fibula's party, who's like another influencer. And I
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: was like, yeah, I'm kind of bored here. Like, and
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: then I asked the producers, I was like, hey, if
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: I go to another party, like, can I come back?
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: And they're like, yeah, for sure. So we went to
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Fibula's party.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: It was kind of over. And then so I was like,
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: let me go back to the summer house party because
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: all my friends were there. And I had to meet them.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: And we're all kind of, because at the Hamptons, it's very,
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: you have to Uber everywhere. Everything's so far away. Everything's
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: so far. So, yeah, so I ended up going back.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, do I have to, like,
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: do this again? They're like, no, just come in. And
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: then I was like, guys, no matter what, we can't
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: be those people where they're telling them to leave.
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: So embarrassing.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Let's, like, go.
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: Because it was July 4th. And we left around 7.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: The party started at, like, 3.30. So it was still going.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: But you could tell it was dying down. But when
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: we left, it was, like, kind of daylight.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: When there is drama going on there, like talking over there,
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: were you kind of trying to like be like, I
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: wonder what's going on?
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: No, I didn't because I didn't want to be that person.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: But I was in the kitchen and it was like surreal. Like, oh,
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: so this is like where it goes down. Yeah. But, yeah,
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: and my friend was, like, trying to get with KJ,
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: and he, like, I think they went on a couple dates.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: But then he, like, obviously, like, dropped her because he's like, oh,
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: I'm in this now.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: But, yeah. Amazing.
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: Okay, so how do you feel about everyone becoming a DJ?
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: Dorinda is on the Make It Nice tour, but she's DJing.
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: I don't mind when a Bravo Liberty DJs.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: I think it's weird that Kyle gets the blues and, like,
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: but I'm like, guys, Kyle told you he has no money.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: So, like, what.
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: Amanda, why are you mad that he's DJing?
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: If someone told me that we are in debt and
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: Loverboy's not doing it and I'm getting offered X amount
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: of dollars to DJ, I would be behind the DJ
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: booth being like, yeah, that's what I'm going to do
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: because I don't want to be broke either and we're married.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: I would support, of course he's not coming home, but
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: that's a problem in your marriage that you had before.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: But do you think.
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: That's a turn on to go see a housewife just
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: be like, Like, is that enough to go and make
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: that your evening? Because you're not, like, seeing them do stand-up.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: You're not seeing them do, like, a live podcast where
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: there's Q & A. You're not seeing them do, like,
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: a Luann thing. I think it's... Or is it better
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: that you don't see them do all that? You're just like,
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: it's better to have fun. They're like, it's fun. I
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: think like there's so many.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: And also it's fun to dance to DJ. It's fun
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: to dance to a DJ set.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: I love dancing.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: It was good when we saw him at, remember we
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: saw him at Hakkasan. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: thought he was great.
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: And I mean, that is a fun thing to do.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: So I think it's really smart.
• 41:05
  Speaker 7: I think.
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: If some, I'm sure some producers are going to them,
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: putting it all together, setting it all up, setting the music,
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: giving them DJ lessons. So they just kind of like
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: get a hang of it.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: And Meredith, when she does it, like I would go
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: to a Meredith Mark show. Like I think out of
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: all the.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: People, you could only go to one. Okay.
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: DJ pretty mess. DJ Kyle cook, DJ Dorinda, DJ Meredith Marks.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Is there anyone else?
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: You can only go to one. Maddie Reese because she's
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: a real DJ from Southern Hospitality.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: James Kennedy.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: James Kennedy. I forgot about him. Is there anyone else?
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: I think that's it as far as I know. I'm
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: not going to see DJ pretty much.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Of those six, which one? You can only go to one.
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: Okay. I've already seen Kyle so I think I would
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: do Meredith because I feel like Meredith has like this
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: fun vibe that people love. She plays all the hits.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: She has that gay son of hers and he's always
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: telling her what's cool. So I feel like she has
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: that in mind.
• 42:05
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, she's like really, I'd pick Meredith.
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: Okay, you know, this Leah McSweeney from Real Housewives of
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: New York has filed a lawsuit and basically Bravo and
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: the network failed to make some deadline to keep it
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: in arbitration.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: So it is actually going to trial.
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: How did they fumble that?
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it. That's crazy.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: Whoever did that must have lost their job.
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: So it's going to trial, which is great for her.
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: And basically what she is claiming is that they, you know,
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: encouraged her to drink and, you know, fucked up her
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: sobriety and all of this. But then the latest part
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: of this lawsuit is that she calls out this other
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: Bravo executive and Andy Cohen saying they are, got other
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: housewives to come after me in a weird smear campaign. Um,
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: and there, she names them in the lawsuit.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Who are they? Um, some of them were like.
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: Kyle Fader, I think.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Um, there were a few.
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: Now what I recall, okay, is it's kind of like
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: the smear campaign that like Blake Lively is trying to
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: say that happened with the Justin Baldoni PR people. But
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: I remember when it came out, there were tweets and
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: things like that from a lot of housewives, but I
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: guess these were the five, the five that I can't
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: remember the names, but I just, saying like, I, you know,
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: we love Andy Cohen and he's never forced me to
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: do anything that I haven't wanted to do and something
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: like that. And they were all kind of coming out
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: with things like that. So I think they're trying, her
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: people are trying to build a case saying like that
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: they were contacted to do this.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: So she's Blake Lively. He's Justin Baldoni.
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: And she's saying that like, yeah, like that, that they
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: reached out to these people that had great influence. There
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: were other housewives to put something out there to make
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: her look crazy. Like, well, this has never happened to us.
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: You know, it's like if someone was accused of whatever
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: sexual assault and then you're like well he was always
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: nice to me and it's like okay he was a
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: gentleman to me we slept in the same bed and
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: you know he didn't touch me and whatever and you're
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: kind of like okay but that doesn't mean that this
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: person's thing is not it now her story is i
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: think Pretty far-fetched in that it's reality TV.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: I agree. They knew when she started.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: You know, she said she was sober, but then when
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: she went back, she was like, no, I am drinking.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: That's when she was doing the tiki torture thing.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: And also, why would you go on a reality show
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: knowing that you could make that switch so fast?
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And then this was part of the reality reckoning thing. Oh, yeah.
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: I remember that.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Bethany Frankel.
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: She was hoping that would really take off, and now
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: she just abandoned that.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: Just like... Just like a charity. She was in St.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: Barts with my friend's brother and he was taking a
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: FaceTime with his girlfriend and was like, there's this random
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: older lady trying to give us business advice and so
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: she shows my friend the screenshot who's his sister and
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: she's like, dude, that's Bethany Frank.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: What kind of business advice?
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: He was like, I don't know, this random broad is
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: at our table in St.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: Barts and she keeps trying to talk to us about
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: how she knows an incredible business and how she could
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: help us and blah, blah, blah. And we weren't even
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: talking to her about business. We didn't even know why
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: she was at our table. There's a photo and everything.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: Oh my God. And then she's like, dude, that's Bethany Frank.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: That's an amazing story. That's great. Literally, she's holding a
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: wine glass.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: She's wearing this black top and she's Mid-sentence, no one is, like,
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: talking to her.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, my God. You know what, though?
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: In her wine afternoon buzz, St. Bart's, she thinks she's
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: doing the Lord's work.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: She really does. She is anti-B.
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: She has me blocked on TikTok.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: You know that, right? She has me blocked, too. I know.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: She's so.
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: You know what's so funny?
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: I remember the last thing I said about her on
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: TikTok that wasn't even, like... I hadn't talked about her
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: in forever. And I was like, ugh, we, as a society,
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: have to stop listening to Bethany Frankel. And then I
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: moved on with what I was saying. And I was like, oh,
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: my God, I'm so glad she saw that.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Like... Listen, I also don't blame people that want to
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: block people because sometimes you see something and you're like, oh,
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: my God, I loved that person. That really hurt my feelings.
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: And you're like, I don't want them to see my
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: stuff anymore so they can criticize it.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: So I totally get it.
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: And it doesn't make me– I don't think any less
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: of them or something.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: I'm like, look, I– Me neither, yeah.
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: I didn't like that she was going after this one
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: young influencer and I– And I spoke up about it.
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: So that's when I was blocked, like two, three years ago.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: I don't know why she thinks she's the authority of everything.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: I don't know who, like, I would say like, oh
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: my God, did her parents inflate her ego? But I
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: don't think they did that either. So I was like,
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: so where does she get the self-importance?
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: That's like my only mystery.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but it's entertaining as fuck. And it's like,
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: it's entertaining as fuck. And I, I'm kind of glad
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: that I am locked.
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: Cause I don't see it.
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: So when I just see something like interesting, like you
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: just told me, it's still interesting. Like I'm not like,
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: like I'm not, it doesn't bother not eating. I'm not
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: seeing the chicken salad in her mouth. I'm not seeing
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: all that. So I'm kind of like, Oh, that's kind
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: of interesting. Oh, here she is dancing in sports illustrating.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: Good for her.
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: Like, I'm just kind of like, what? Oh, here's this
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: new boyfriend of hers. And She do.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: Be getting a new boyfriend all the time. And that's
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: the one thing that is like something I'm jealous of.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: I was like, wow, she really gets a new boyfriend.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: Like with no, no, with ease, with ease.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: I think that she's like pretty great in the sack
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: and hooking a guy.
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: Has to be.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: I think she is.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, that's what I've heard from good sources, which
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: I think is good.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: Go for it. So any, that's what's going to happen.
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: And then according to, because of this, allegedly andy has
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: really curtailed his personal texting with housewives like he used
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: to do i could see that i you know on
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: maybe he does a dozen other time he's a busy
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: dad but also like it hasn't served him well and
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: he needs to remove himself from storylines and narratives and all.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: That but i'm like well now you've done that but
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: you also.
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: Have published a Pages and pages of text messages with
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: housewives for your books.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Right. And they weren't getting a percentage of that book.
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: And what are they going to do if they complain
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: they don't get cast in the next Ultimate Girls trip?
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: Well, Lisa Rinna is the only one who complained, but
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: she's like, I'm not going back to housewives.
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but no, others have complained, but they did it quietly.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, really? Yeah, because of that reason. You're like, that's,
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: you know, you speak up.
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: And it's the kind of job that we don't have
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: to invite you back if we think you're going to
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: be troublesome. See, that's what I think what happened is
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: when Leah kind of realized, like, because she was, like,
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: sick on the Thailand ultimate trip, Leah McSweeney.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: And I think she knew, like, this is over with.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: She was kind of, like, so unnecessarily miserable, like, that
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: whole time there, though.
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: Like, I don't like this revision.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: Not that you're doing this, but there is this revisionist
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: history of, like, oh, my God, they did this to.
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: Her, she was sick.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: But she was miserable the entire time. She was beefing
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: with everybody there. Nobody liked her who was there.
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: By the way, I am not on Leah's side. I'm
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: just saying what the lawsuit is. I personally think it'll
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: be very interesting if she prevails.
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: Does he have to be there? Would he have to go?
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: I think right now is like the discovery of like
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: just how they were just when they thought like the
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: Justin and Blake were going to go to trial. And
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: it was like, oh, my God. Like, is Taylor Swift
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: going to have to be on the stand? Are they
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: going to actually read the text like the dragons? Like
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: I was like, part of me is tired of the story,
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: wants it to end. But part of me knows this
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: is going to be really good like content to talk about.
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: And I think that's the same thing. So they said
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: they're going to trial. They're getting it all together. However.
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: they certainly could come to her and be like, here's
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: a check.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: I just don't want, I don't want Andy to be
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: taken down. I've decided this. I don't want, no, I
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: don't want anyone to be taken down, but.
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: I do fear for the day that like, he obviously
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: will get a replacement, not a replacement. Like if he
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: retires or something, I'm like, I don't want anyone else
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: to do this job. Like when someone said Jeff Lewis,
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: I was like, no. And when someone said Jerry O'Connell,
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: I was like, also no. And I'm just like, No,
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: I just like I just feel like he just he
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: has these women by the balls.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: First of all, I don't think it's a difficult job.
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: I think he could do it till he's like 75,
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: 80 if he wants.
• 50:42
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: It's not that time consuming. It seems to be working
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: fine with the kids schedule. The only reason he would
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: leave as I think if he just literally was like
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: so over it and so bored and couldn't even like
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: get himself excited. But I would tell him just like
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: if Sheena would have called me, don't.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: Do it. We all have those moments where we're like,
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: I want to quit this life. Don't. Don't. Look at
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: some other lives. Don't quit it. I cannot believe Sheena
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: did that over a comment.
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: I don't know if I believe that story.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: Like, she read that comment.
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: She just said, no, I'm not going to be on
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: the Valley.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: Like, really?
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: And Lala's going to be there? And like, without me?
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: And we have this major beef going on?
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: That I can't get behind.
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: There's no fucking way that some random broad on TikTok said,
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: you're going back to high school.
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: You know what I think it is though?
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: I feel like Sheena saw that Stassi would easily distance
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: herself and is rebranding and maybe that's Sheena's plan. So
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: I feel like maybe that's what she thought. But Sheena,
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: you weren't like a Stassi.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: So I don't know. Yeah, it's, we'll see. But Sheena's
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: whole brand is being cringe.
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: So that's why I'm like, how could you let this
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: girl like talk you out of your brand?
• 51:53
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: That's what I think.
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: That's why I was like, when I heard that, I
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: just kind of was like, this should be a lesson learned.
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: to everybody that lets the haters get in their head.
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: Because it's really.
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: Like nobody, you know, nobody less attractive than you is, sorry,
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: nobody more attractive than you is going to say you're ugly.
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: No one, you know, like no one more, whatever it is,
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: the more successful people, the more everything they're not going down.
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: So it's always someone that's writing these awful things and
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: doing these things. They don't have much going on.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: They're anonymous, whatever.
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: And so, you know, but it's a good lesson to
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: be like, but also she's probably like, no, I'm doing great.
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: I have all these other things going on. We're fine financially.
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: I love not having the stress of it. I believe
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: that too.
• 52:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: I believe that too.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean, psychologically, I think it's like, A lot.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: But I feel like she, she loves being famous. She does.
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: I saw her Coachella in VIP and she was trying
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: to be seen.
• 52:53
  Speaker 5: I loved it.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: Now what is trying to be seen?
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: Because I've had people say, someone told me, so I
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: read somewhere. She was doing the Sheena Shea thing.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: She was like, her selfie was out. Like no one
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: was around her. Brock was like, you know, in the background.
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: Like she, she wanted to be noticed.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: It was, which is fine.
• 53:08
  Speaker 5: I do the same thing.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, Look at me, look at me.
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: I also think you're out and you have to get
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: the content. Why are you going if you're not going
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: to film a million things?
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: But I love that about her. I can just tell
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: it's Sheena Shay. I know what she's doing, but it's like,
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: you know, I love that she's committed to that.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: She's always super nice to.
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: People who come up to her, there's not like a
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: bad I met Sheena Shea story.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: So I think that says a lot too.
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: She takes the Kim K approach.
• 53:35
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You know.
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 53:37
  Speaker 5: I like that.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: That's why I'm disappointed she's not on the Valley. I
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: think Lala and like Schwartz being on the Valley is
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: kind of gimmicky.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: We'll see. Let's get into the Valley since we're talking
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: about the Valley.
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: Oh, by the way, JLo completely had a boob job.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: You think so? A hundred percent. She definitely did. And
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: I'm like all for it. She looks great. She looks incredible.
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: She had very small boobs before. Then I think she
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: got a mini one like 15 years ago, 20 years ago.
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: But this one is 100%. This is not the boobs
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: that she had two years ago.
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: Again, who cares? But I'm sorry. I'm going to point
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: it out. The dress, she looks amazing.
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: She looks incredible.
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: So she has some new movie TV show called Office Romance.
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: I already predicted what the What the storyline would be,
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: and I can't wait to watch.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: It and see if I was correct.
• 54:28
  Speaker 5: I want her to fuck that guy.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: In real life. Yeah. There's supposed rumors that there was something.
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: Because he's obsessed with everything she does. He knows all
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: her movies and stuff, and I feel like she loves
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: someone who's obsessed with her.
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: I mean, this is such a good draft. I've said
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: this a million times. I love Draylo's looks so much.
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: I love her face. I love her skin. I love
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: her new boobs.
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: She always has good jewelry.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't care. I got Dorit's book.
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: How is it? Because I want to do the audiobook.
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: You absolutely should do the audiobook. I've only read some.
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: I'm going to give a more detailed... I'm going to
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: read more. I'm going to do a real hardcore detailed
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: review of it. The good, the bad, the boring. On
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: my Patreon this Friday. I started reading some.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: Of it yesterday. Of course, I got right to like
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: the Housewives parts.
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: And....
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: What'd she say? Well, first of all, it is well-written.
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: Well, she's a very traveled woman.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: She knows the world.
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: This is my doll.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: She can't do anything wrong by me.
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: So, I mean, what I think is she got with
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: her ghostwriter and they sat down and just did long-form
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: interviews and all that.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: And then this was a very talented.
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: Writer that definitely put it in her voice of the
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: way she speaks. And in doing it, there are like
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: some sort of life lessons that are like, it's, it's
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: an interesting, as someone who is interested in reality TV
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: and the way these things are, I do kind of
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: like that. She kind of goes into like the psychological
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: of like, you're in a scene and you want to
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: be in the moment you're talking, but then you also
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: like know that it's like a 3d thing that then
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: this one line that had not been filled and not
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: part of a show.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: And I always say this.
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: Would never be an issue because, among women at a
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: luncheon the next time you see them two weeks at
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: someone's birthday.
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: It would never be brought up again. It wouldn't be
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: a big thing.
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: But that's the point of the show. Which then also sometimes,
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: the more people dissect it, I also feel like the
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: more it becomes unfun for viewers.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: You think so? For me, a little bit. Maybe just
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: because I've been in it so long. Do you mean
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: dissect it when people are on Reddit and on TikTok?
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: No, when someone really breaks it down. I always call
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: it magic revealed. Sometimes I don't want to know how
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: the magic was made.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, you mean like the show?
• 56:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: She's not telling like, producer secret she's just really saying
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: like why some dumb line that you wouldn't think that
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: much of then becomes some big storyline that then like continues.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: To haunt you and then you you know like because
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: and you're like i was just like drunk at lunch
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: yeah yeah she does she talks about uh the um
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: you know, you're a stupid cunt, Camille.
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: Okay, well, that is crazy.
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: See, that's why I can't with some of the Housewives books.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: It's all revisionist history. Lisa Rinna's book on the Housewives
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: part is a little bit revisionist of her being a monster.
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: And then she, like, she's like, oh, but my mom died.
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: And it's like, yeah, that's sad, but it's like, okay,
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: but you were a monster. Like, it wasn't being, like,
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: I don't know. So I feel like that, like, if
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: you called anyone a stupid cunt at dinner, like, I
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: don't know, Dorit, like, you should have known that would
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: be a line.
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: Well, like, I just saw that she was on Lala's
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: podcast and Lala's like, yeah, I can relate to you
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: because you were, and I've said this too, in that
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: going through this like awful divorce, separation, whatever, and being
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: a bitch when you're with your friends, like if someone's
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: going through a horrible divorce, and then going to work
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: at the accounting firm.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: They would probably be on edge and bitchy too. You
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: know what I mean?
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: And you would not see a great side of them ever.
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: I think everything she handled, I think she handled everything great.
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: I feel like I don't know why people expect her
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: to kiss everybody's ass. Erica Jane was being an absolute
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: menace to society when it came crashing down on her.
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: And I don't know why Dorit wasn't afforded the same grace.
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: And I also do feel like Erica Jane, she was
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: trying to save her job and came for her at
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: the last possible second. I feel like she was just
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: crying at the table because she knew she fucked it
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: over with Dorit, but there was no going back and
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: Dorit was pissed off.
• 58:37
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: I just feel like.
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, also the other thing is people always
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: go storyline and this season and last season and it's like,
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: but in everyone's defense, it still is their life.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: And someone's divorce, some people's divorce is going for 10 years.
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: And it does get tiring for the friend and it
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: is hard and maybe you want to move back retreat
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: a little bit from it, because it's so much negativity,
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: but that's your friend, but then you have to film
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: the show.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: Right so but.
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: So then you're like oh let's get on to it
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: let's let's get on with it it's like well we're
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: not gonna get on because that's not real life but
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: then it's like the audience is like oh Her lesbianism
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: was last.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: Year, come on already. And it's like, well, sorry.
• 59:21
  Speaker 5: First of all, Kyle has not even talked about her lesbianism.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: Kyle doesn't talk about anything. The fact that she.
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: Gets mad at Doreen, I'm like, Kyle, I don't even
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: really know why you divorced Mauricio. I don't know if
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: you're a lesbian or not. There are so many unanswered
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: questions of Kyle. And I get so confused. I'm like, Kyle,
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: you haven't told us a thing. How are you on
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: this show still? I have to guess everything that goes
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: on in Kyle's life. It's so bizarre. And also, everyone
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: knows about Morgan Wade. Why do you give a fuck
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: what Morgan Wade thinks? She's not doing this job.
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: You're doing this job.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: Tell everyone who ate her pussy or not. And we
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: could all move on.
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: I would be.
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: I don't understand that.
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: I literally don't.
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: You said, oh, I had a conversation with my kids about,
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: you know, the state of the situation.
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you mean you liking a woman? Like, tell
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: us what that is. I hate when people dance around topics.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: She really did dance around them because I remember she
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: was like, and I just said, you know, because of
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: this situation, there's people that are talking about the fact
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: that maybe this could happen. And how does that make
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: you feel that people are talking about this situation.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: And they're like, we love you the same mom. God,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: I'm so proud of you. I'm like, yeah, you still
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: didn't come out. You still didn't admit to anything.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: It was more like, I think she should just be like, listen,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm a lesbian or not. And
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: that's why I don't say anything. Like I just had
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: a crush on this one woman. And like, that's why this.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 5: Is odd for me. I feel like that's relatable.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: She has sort of said that she basically said I
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: was with this person and they didn't want to be
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: on camera. and they didn't want me talking about them,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: and therefore, you know, and then Erica's like, I'd protect
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: that person with all my life. So that was, I
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: feel like that was her, like if you can't figure
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: that out, then you weren't watching the show. So I
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: feel like that was her giving it to us, yes.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: There was a romantic moment. But I also felt like
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: she brought Morgan Wade into our lives. And also, my
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: other thing with Morgan Wade is like, why don't you
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: want to be talked about? No one knew who you
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: were before Kyle Richards brought you on the scene. And
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: now everybody knows who you are. Like, why is this
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: bothering you that you're linked.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: To Kyle Richards? I also don't think, like, I don't know.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: I also just don't think she wants to be, like,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: in a committed or, you know, I think this is
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: also her way, Morgan, to be single, but maybe, like,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: still have a lot of fun times with Kyle. But also, like,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: I don't want you to think I'm your person forever.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: You're 23 years older than I am. I'm a country singer.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: You're married. You're married. You're on this show. And you're
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: still in love with your husband. Yeah.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: I like having an audience, but I don't want to
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: see a bunch of Karens in my audience. I want
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: a different audience than the Housewives audience listening to my music.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: Do you think- Again, dumb. Take every audience member. Don't
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: ever shit on the audience. No one ever knew who
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: you were ever. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: Do you think that Kyle and Mauricio aren't getting a
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: divorce because they don't want to split the assets?
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: A hundred percent.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 5: That's what I think too.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: Like I feel like Kyle, like. It's just, it's just
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: scary and hard. Yeah. And it's just like, I think
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: it's just procrastination.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: And it's like, I just, I, I think they're both
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: just like, I don't want to lose like three years
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: of my life in something that could turn so ugly.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: And seeing like what Dorit goes through and stuff would
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: make me go, Fuck it. Like, if we're getting along
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: and I'm sitting in the Encino house and I'm like, hey,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: are you going to La Quinta this weekend?
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: You're not?
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: Okay, good.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: I'm going to go with my girlfriend. Like, I think
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: they were kind of living separate lives for years.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: Years, you think?
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: In the sense that, like, he's opening up these agencies.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: If he gets a little something on the side, what
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: do I know? He's not catching feelings for anybody. But
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: I've kind of lost respect for him. Now I'm sober.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: Now I slip into this hot lesbian girls thing.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: And I'm kind of just thinking... That's what I just think.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: I just think it was like her midlife crisis, self-discovery, awakening, sobriety,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: all of it.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: And I've said this for like a year now. I
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: think they.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: One of them will file when they fall in love
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: with someone else and that someone else is like, you
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 4: need to get divorced. I kind of thought they were
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: going to walk around public.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: You think what?
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 5: I thought they were going to get back together for
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: a second.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: You know, I always. OK, so, you know, I love Lucy, right? Yes. OK,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: you've heard of her. I do. I've heard of the doll.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: OK, so I Love Lucy was a TV show. They
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: were like the first sitcom people. And she was this actress, comedian,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: and she fell in love with this guy, Desi, and
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: he was, like, the brains behind it, and they were
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: both on it, and it was like.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: But he was a cheater.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: He was a Cuban hot guy, and he cheated on
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 4: her all the time. And they got divorced. But, like,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: the last video of them together is they're with their grandkids, like.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: In the pool.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: And.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: Just like being family. She got married to somebody else.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: She had like another sitcom after that in color that
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: like wasn't that great. But she always like spoke highly
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: of him, even though he was a cheater on her.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: And it was like, I think there's like that. So yes,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: do I think they could end up together?
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 6: I think.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: I think they could like never get divorced and then
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: be like grandparents together.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: And it's more of like a friendship. Isn't that kind
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: of sad though? Yeah.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: I think about this, like, isn't that kind of sad?
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: It kind of, I don't want to say it.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 5: Like sounds pathetic, but it's like, oh, like, I'm just.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: Like, it just feels like she's on his time.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 6: Like, you know?
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 5: And she's just like waiting in the wings. I don't
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 5: know if I like that.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's really interesting because it's like, I've talked
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: to other, I have talked to other women, another major housewife.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: I'll just say it was Luann.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: One time we had this conversation probably like 10 years ago.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: So she was already divorced from the count and she
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: just kind of was like, you know, I would have
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: stayed married and I would have, we could have had
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: like a situation, a situation ship or a, you know,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: same time next year, whatever with someone. And like, and
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: you know, now I think, Maybe she doesn't feel that way.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: You know, I think she's had a great life now
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: that it's been a long time. But I think there's
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: people that just think like, maybe this could work out
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: if we just hold out.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: Well, that makes me feel like, I don't know. It
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: is weird, though, because it's like, yeah. So is monogamy out? Like,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: do we just like, is it real? You tell me
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: you're married, right? Yeah, it's hard.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: So like, do you like think that like if your
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: husband cheated on you tomorrow, would you just like stay
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: with him because of like the history?
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 5: No, it's easy.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: No, I can't. I don't know. I mean, I can't
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: say anything until it happens.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 5: Or do you think people are just meant to be
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 5: together forever?
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: Like some people are just really meant to be and
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: some people are just meant to be there for a
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: little bit and then like you just divorce.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: I think every marriage is totally different and you just
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: can't compare yourself to one other person. And where one
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: couple thrives in one particular way, you know, and you
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: look at another couple and he's so into her, they're more.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: Affectionate or more loving.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: But then she's annoyed with him because he doesn't fix
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: anything around the house.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: Like, I don't know. It's just, it's just what. Everything's like.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: I can see why people are moving away from it because,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: because we live for so long and you're just kind
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: of like, I don't.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: And do you think people are just lazy? Like in
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: this modern day, like people don't want to work on anything.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: And I think they get married really young too. So
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: that's also plays a factor.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: Who gets married young?
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: I feel like some people get married at like 23,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: like all the secret lives of Mormon wives. They all
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: fucking hate their husbands because like they didn't know who
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: they were when they married them. And now they're all
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: getting their frontal lobes and now they're all reality stars.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: And they're like, wait, oopsies, I actually don't subscribe to this. Like,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: but we have kids and we have to make it
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: work because we're mom talk and I'm the breadwinner and
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: they're all pissed off.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 5: And it's like, why the fuck are you mad? She
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 5: dances for five seconds. You have five mils.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: So I have no idea.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: I definitely feel like there's a movement of like people
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: going back to getting married really young. Like your first
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: person is your wife and that whole trad wife and
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: marrying young and, and being like, Hey, the best people are.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: The ones you meet in college. Like grab onto that one.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: You're not going to, you know, it's going to be
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: hard playing the field and try to find the right
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: one at 31. Like there's some truth to that. And
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: then the older you get, your options are limited.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: And like the best ones do get taken and all that.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: But then I also, but, but I feel like then
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: there's this also where like, then there gets this place
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 4: where like, nobody's getting together, you know, or getting married.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: So it's very different. Yeah. Um, Okay, we'll finish up
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: on The Valley. How are you feeling?
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: We talked a little bit, Sheena's not on it, but
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: how are you feeling about the season?
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 5: There's like 16 people on this cast.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: I know, there's a lot of people. Okay. I feel
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: like this show.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 5: Is just really depressing.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: It's just not.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 5: Talking.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: About why you don't get married.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 5: This is birth control right here. They should put this
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 5: in the schools.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: I'm not even kidding. I see all these people, I'm like...
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: Don't want this life. Like, it doesn't even make me
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: want to live in the Valley. I like, as someone
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: who lives in LA, I'm like, Oh God, can't go
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: anywhere near where these people live. Like they're all, their
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: lives are sad. No one is having fun. Like the
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: only fun people are Zach Wickham and Jasmine, but that's
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: cause they're like living an untraditional fun, not untraditional, but
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like he's gay as a boyfriend.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: He's like fun. And like the gays are having fun. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: are having fun but everyone else straight is having a
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: miserable life like like and it's like oh it's poetic
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: honestly it's like i i hate it like i watch
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: it and i i can't talk about it because i'm
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: like i can't believe people like live like this But
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: I know it's not everyone.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 5: It's just this batch of people.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And it's sad. It's really sad.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think they have the best marriage, honestly.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: Wait, who? Janet and Asian Spice over here. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 5: I forget his name. And I've met him like 10 times.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: Jason. Yeah. Oh, Jason. I agree.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 4: I think they get along well.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. It's just.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 5: And then Michelle's always sad. And then they always do things.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: They go to like San Diego and I'm like, Oh God,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: why are we going? Like, I hate their trips. Nothing's luxury.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: Nothing's luxurious. That house was like, whatever. And like the
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: babies are crying. They're arguing about who's going to put
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: the baby down. Who has the milk we're putting on.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 5: It's, Oh my God.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: It looks also fucking miserable. Oh, I couldn't, it could not.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: I just thought just, it stresses me out. It's like, Ooh,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: It's just like a sad, it's sad. And then you,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: I'm not, see, if I were Andy Cohen, I would
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: hate this shit. Having to talk with them and like,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: they just make it all look so miserable.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 5: And it's like, why'd you all decide to procreate?
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: I know. I don't know how to make it. I
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: don't know. Like I am watching it. Um, but it is,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: it is kind of, it is.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 5: Well, I have to ask you, is it that sad?
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: Um, You know, I mean, the things that they talk
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 4: about are realistic in that, like, yes, you know, people
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 4: struggle after a baby. But I do also feel like
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 4: in my day, we either didn't know that we had
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 4: that option to say that we had postpartum.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's not real. I just feel like
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: we just went.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: Like did it because you have to do it.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: And so because that's like, you know, a point you
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: could go, I have this depression of after having the baby,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 4: then we have to see it.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: And yeah, it's.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 5: I like that they talk about that.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's like, I mean, I just think it's also
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: really hard.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: Like you're, you just had a baby and there's cameras
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: everywhere and you have this tiny place.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 5: And your husband is a fucking imbecile.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: Which one? Danny. Yeah. Honestly, all of them.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: I mean, the houses are small. And so can you imagine, like,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: you have a baby. You have this person. Your tit
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: is hurting. You're trying to breastfeed. The cameraman comes in.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: He's sweating because it's the valley.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: The air conditioning broke. And you're, like, fighting.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 4: And then it's just like, and then you have to
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 4: look back at it six months later and be like, oh,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: my God.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: I was so overweight. I hated my body. Like, all
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: that part. is true i don't.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 4: Know like i get why they did it like this
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 4: is a part of it but i'm kind of like
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: for reality i don't.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: Know real almost maybe it's like i feel like if
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: you had choices to.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 4: Watch you can watch the young sexy people boning on
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: love island or you could watch the old sexy people.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: Boning Not boning, it seems, actually.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: Or boning, like, the golden life or whatever we're going
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: to see with, like, the art classic ladies, you know,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: of Real Housewives of New York.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: Or, like, this middle time.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 4: But the middle town of, like, when people had husbands
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: and younger kids, like, when Housewives first started, like, when
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 4: Beverly Hills in New York first started, that was, like,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: the perfect.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: Like, 42 years old. is the perfect age to start
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: your reality show career. Yeah.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 5: Cause you've lived like life. 30s is an awkward time.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: It's just, yeah, it's kind of hard.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 5: You're in this in between of like, am I going
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 5: to make it?
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: Am I not?
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: Like your 20s are for building, your 30s are for stabilizing.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: And then your 40s are for like, oh, well, this
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: is it girl. It's either we're up and we're stuck.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: And I just think with, with Nia and, and Danny,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 4: I think it's just really hard. Cause it's like, Now
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 4: she's making the money and probably more money with the
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 4: influencer stuff, but they're on this show. But then how,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: if they leave this show, it's going to affect their
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 4: status on these deals, which pays for everything.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: Right. But he's an actor, but he's really good. And
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: besides voiceover.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: Now, now once someone becomes an established face on a
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 4: reality show, no one's hiring them to be an actor again.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: Because it would take you immediately out of it.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: So now he's not, he's kind of fucked his acting
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: career by being on this.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: So they better stay on it. They better make this work.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: And I think all of that is extra stress.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 5: And I heard the show might get canceled or paused.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: Where'd you hear that?
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 5: It's the rumor. But I mean, if it did, like,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 5: would you be upset?
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: There's nothing aspirational about it. I think that's the problem
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: of why I can't get behind it. Even Vanderpump Rules
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: had this cunty undertone of like, yeah, we're degenerates, but like,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: you know, we're at this restaurant and we're making it work.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: Well, the Vanderpump Rules was fun because it was like
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 4: there were aspiring actors working at a restaurant who got
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 4: to be on a TV show.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: So it was kind of like- It was fun to
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: see them like sling drinks, but like be like, oh,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: we get to go to the OK Magazine party.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: Like, you know what it is? It's low stakes for that.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 4: And then when they're really rich and they get divorced,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: like Bronwyn on Salt Lake City, it's like, yeah, but you're.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: Going to be fine. Yeah.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: Because you're 45 and rich. There's something really sad to
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: think about. if these couples don't make it and we've
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: already seen two couples get divorced since first season, but, and,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 4: and share the child and it's fine if they get along,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: but there's something. And then I guess there's something aspirational
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: about knowing that like, Hey, don't stay in a miserable marriage.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 4: You could both be happy with someone else. There's that,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 4: but I don't know. I think that's all the feelings
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: you get when you're watching it. And it's just not
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: as like.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: Fun. I think what it is, it's like triggering all
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: different things, you know?
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 5: So, Who would you think is next to get divorced?
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 5: I think they're going to stay together.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: I think they would stay together at least for a
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: long time.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 5: They have that whole Christian propaganda thing.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: Well, it's just so hard with four kids.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: I mean, talk about not wanting to like if someone's
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: going to suck it up, it's going.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: To be her.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 4: But will it be we got to get off the show?
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 4: Because you came off like such a dick that now
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 4: we have to get off the show so that we
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 4: can protect the image.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: I would say don't do that.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 6: Don't.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 4: The image has already been destroyed.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: And now you can course correct. Yes. What you need
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: to do is stay on it and really change your ways.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: And make us fall in love with you, Danny.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: And stay on the show and make your money. Be
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: nice to your wife.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: Go to church. Feed your kids.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: When she asks you for help, don't roll your eyes
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: until the cameras leave your house.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Like, that was just... I'm like, hold your baby, dude.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: I wonder if anybody on this show is, like, blaming
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: the other for doing it. You know, because, like, even
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 4: in Dorit's thing, she said, you know, it was PK that...
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 4: Maybe Dorit didn't say it, but they've said it in interviews.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: PK said.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 4: Coming from England, I knew the only way to make
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: it in L.A. is fame, power, or money. And we
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 4: didn't have that much money at the time.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, I like that she admitted that. No, that's what T.P.K. said.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: I didn't have that much power at the time. I
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: didn't have power. So it was fame.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: And, you know, we knew we do Lisa Vanderpump. And
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 4: the opportunity came up. And he said, you should do it.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: You're great. You're beautiful. This will be so great.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 4: And then she was like, I never chased that limelight.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 4: I didn't watch the show. She did say this in
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 4: the book. I hadn't watched the show. I met Lisa
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 4: Vanderpump because we shared a villa for somebody's wedding and.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: Liked them fine.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 4: And then when I got put on the show, like
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 4: she had a party and I walked in and their
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 4: cameras were there and it was a little awkward, but
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 4: then I got used to it.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: And like, that was that. So that is true.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 4: She was not looking to be like famous. And then
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 4: you are, which is also really interesting.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: So it's like, I.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 4: Wonder if in this, in a marriage, like then, you know,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 4: with Dorit and PK, was she ever like, I never.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: Even wanted to go on the show. And then he'd
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: be like, well, you fucking changed. Didn't you? You didn't care.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 8: About spending all this money. And now it's all about
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 8: spending this money. And you think everyone, I'm not one
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 8: of your fucking assistants. Like who knows what their fights
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 8: are because of the show. And then it's like, so
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 8: I hope with Dorit, Nia and Danny that they do
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 8: work through it you know and and realize like hey
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 8: we fell in love at one time we did love
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 8: each other we do respect it now we are on
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 8: the show and we've agreed to be on the show
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 8: and the toothpaste is out of the tube so now
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 8: what the fuck do we do yeah Going away and
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 8: holding hands, you might as well just stay in it.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 5: Make more money.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: And go to therapy sessions. And that can be your storyline.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: We're in therapy because he talks about, yeah, no, milk it.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: I think that's why Sheena really didn't get on the
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: Valley because she revealed that Brock had that affair and
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: I feel like it caught wind and then they were like, well,
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: you didn't really share that on Vanderpump Rules, so why
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: would we put you on the Valley and you're not
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: going to tell us about your shitty marriage as well?
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: But no, it's... I thought.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: That she did share it in the book and... you know,
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 4: because she wanted to share it, which is fine. And
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 4: I appreciate that she shared it, but also, and that
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 4: was a really juicy part of the book, but also like, yeah,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 4: now we have to recover again because now the world knows,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 4: like we already recovered what had happened, but then we agreed,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 4: I'm going to tell it like that's, we, could have
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: seen it.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 4: Or maybe, again, in trying to make Lemonade out of it,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 4: being like, you know what, it's better that we're.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: Not on camera for, like, a couple years to see
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: if we can, like.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 5: Work this out.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: That's what I think Kyle and Amanda should have done
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: last season. I was like, I feel like they should
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: get off Summer House to, like, really see if they
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: should be married.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 5: And, like, really make it work.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 4: But when you sit down and you're like, okay... if
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 4: we go off the show because of our relationship, you're
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 4: both like not in love enough to give, give up
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 4: the fame and the fun summer.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 5: And that tells you the answer.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:19:18
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• 1:19:18
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• 1:19:20
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• 1:19:23
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• 1:19:26
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