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Trusting Players Abilities | Jaguars Happy Hour · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, August twenty fourth. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 2: Chackrick, I wish welcome in. It is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 2: It is Thursday, preseason week three and Jaguars Happy Hour
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  Speaker 2: We're everywhere. JP Shadrick with Jeff Logaman. Preseason Week three.
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  Speaker 2: We've got starters playing time. We've got the remaining roster
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  Speaker 2: battles coming down to the wire. The roster has to
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  Speaker 2: be down to fifty three fifty four including the international
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  Speaker 2: Pathway player by Tuesday at four o'clock and then at
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  Speaker 2: five o'clock today the Doug Peterson Show. We'll hear plenty
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  Speaker 2: from Doug Peterson's press conference earlier today and Mike McCoy,
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars quarterbacks coach. I talked with him earlier this week.
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  Speaker 2: We'll hear that conversation coming up. Jeff Lockman, Good afternoon, afternoon, JP.
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  Speaker 2: We've made it. The training camp is over. Isn't that amazing?
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  Speaker 2: I answered, that's a really good thing. Yeah right, it's over,
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  Speaker 2: and now one more preseason game the starter is gonna play.
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  Speaker 2: We'll have plenty to discuss next week, recapping that the
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  Speaker 2: roster down to fifty three. Excuse me there while I
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  Speaker 2: adjusted my We've got to make sure you can I
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  Speaker 2: got it now, I got it now, I got it now,
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  Speaker 2: all this new techniques. I'm excited because this is the
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  Speaker 2: last I guess you could say of these games that
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  Speaker 2: we really don't care about, all right, I mean, well,
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  Speaker 2: this would be the one we care about the most.
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  Speaker 2: You do because the starters are playing and you want
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  Speaker 2: to make sure that they get through it in a
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  Speaker 2: in a very healthy way. But at the same token,
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  Speaker 2: when everybody goes back to the bench and nobody gets hurt,
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  Speaker 2: everybody's gonna breathe a sigh of relief and go, thank goodness.
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  Speaker 2: Now let's get this game over with, right, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: is that not what's gonna happen? Tick tick tick tick
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  Speaker 2: tick on the ball. Yeah, I mean, let's let the
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  Speaker 2: first team guys, get some snaps, get some reps, you know,
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  Speaker 2: kind of get a little closer to being in game shape,
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  Speaker 2: because they're not going to be in game shape once
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  Speaker 2: they get to Week one. It's just it's a process.
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  Speaker 2: You know. When they had four preseason games, kind of
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  Speaker 2: the the standard procedure was Game one, you play a quarter. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: Game two, you play a half. Game three a half,
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  Speaker 2: and then you come out after halftime to get used
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  Speaker 2: to the half type, because let me tell you, nobody's
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  Speaker 2: ever done that before. They've got to learn how to
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  Speaker 2: do it and well. And then Game four was kind
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  Speaker 2: of a throwaway game. And it's completely different now with
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  Speaker 2: the economics of the game, the three preseason games and
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  Speaker 2: the additional game that goes into the regular season. So
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  Speaker 2: it's very different now, and there's not really any standard
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  Speaker 2: procedure for it whatsoever. I mean, I've read this week
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  Speaker 2: that the Las Vegas Raiders, I can't believe I got
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  Speaker 2: that right. Las Vegas Raiders are planning on playing nobody
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  Speaker 2: in the last preseason game. I mean, so it's just
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  Speaker 2: so wild how different it is from every team. And
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what the Miami Dolphins are going to do.
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  Speaker 2: I hope they play some starters. They've had some guys
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  Speaker 2: dinged up. I know the wide receivers were down. They
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  Speaker 2: didn't practice on Wednesday. Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle too
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  Speaker 2: have spoke with the media this week, but who knows.
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  Speaker 2: We haven't seen it. I haven't seen anything official from
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  Speaker 2: them yet. I hope they played, just so that you know.
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  Speaker 2: The last thing in the world that you want to
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  Speaker 2: do is okay, is if you've got your starters playing
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  Speaker 2: and you're planning on playing a half and then all
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  Speaker 2: of a sudden, the Miami Dolphins roll out and don't
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  Speaker 2: play anybody, and then your starters are playing against a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of backups. Yeah, or against a guy who's really
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  Speaker 2: trying to go out and make make something of him,
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  Speaker 2: you know, try to put himself out there to make
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  Speaker 2: a team. So he's going above and beyond and maybe
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  Speaker 2: a little too far or whatever. Yeah, I mean it's
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  Speaker 2: full speed. I mean, you can't live is live. But
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  Speaker 2: I understand what you're saying. You'd rather have an eight
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  Speaker 2: year vet who knows how to play instead of a
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  Speaker 2: rookie who's just trying to make the roster. Totally understand it,
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  Speaker 2: and so That's what you also maybe have to be
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  Speaker 2: thinking of if you're head coach Doug Peterson in Miami
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  Speaker 2: rolls out there with no starters playing, which I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if that's the case. Head coach Mike McDaniel Gaden
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  Speaker 2: gave no indication so far in his press conference, and
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  Speaker 2: to be perfectly honest with you, it's hard to get
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  Speaker 2: any kind of indication from a Mike McDaniel press conference.
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  Speaker 2: He'll take the scenic route. Aroun a lot of issues
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  Speaker 2: for sure. I mean, am I the only one that
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  Speaker 2: thinks he's hard to listen to? Interesting? Interesting? That's a
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  Speaker 2: good interesting coach. That's a good term. The Dolphins Jaguars
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  Speaker 2: another interesting guy. Offensive coordinator Press Taylor for the Jacksonville
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars spoke with the media Wednesday and was asked what
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  Speaker 2: to expect from the starters.
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  Speaker 3: Similar thing as you know we talked about week one
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  Speaker 3: or preseason week one of seeing just a clean operation.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you want to see clear communication. It's our
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  Speaker 3: chance to be at home. You kind of want the
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  Speaker 3: butterflies of these guys getting in a game and understanding
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  Speaker 3: they're about to get tackled. You know, there's pressure on
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  Speaker 3: the line if you don't convert your your punting and
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  Speaker 3: all that type of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So you really just.
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  Speaker 3: Want to try to get that smoothed out for the guys,
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  Speaker 3: so that week one, it's not the first time they've
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  Speaker 3: felt that way or communicated in a huddle or broken
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  Speaker 3: a huddle together and all that stuff. So clean operator
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  Speaker 3: from a communication substitution standpoint, and then you want to
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  Speaker 3: see him execute again. It's still somewhat of a core
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  Speaker 3: game plan for us. It's not exotic stuff. So you
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  Speaker 3: just want to go out and see clean execution out
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  Speaker 3: of these guys making plays too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, in and out of the huddle, right, get guys
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  Speaker 2: from the sideline on time. You know, you don't want
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  Speaker 2: any delay things to happen. Yeah, that's got tweak one
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  Speaker 2: stuff that you want to seek, right. And just asking
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  Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence about it earlier this week in the press
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  Speaker 2: conference that he had after a practice, you asked he
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  Speaker 2: talked about press there we do a little more game plan.
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  Speaker 2: Well what does that even mean? And Trevor was basically like, well,
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  Speaker 2: there's a little bit more. It's still base. Yeah, going
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  Speaker 2: up against different books. There's cards, there's some of that well,
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  Speaker 2: and to get people an idea if let's say for
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  Speaker 2: a regular season game, let's say that's one hundred percent playbook,
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  Speaker 2: you're going to have like half of the playbook in
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  Speaker 2: this preseason game that you would have for regular season game.
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  Speaker 2: But nonetheless, it's a game plan because you want to
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  Speaker 2: you want to evaluate a lot of these guys in
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  Speaker 2: the situation. Okay, we got to give them a game plan.
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  Speaker 2: We got to see if they can understand the game
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  Speaker 2: plan and see if they can execute the game plan.
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  Speaker 2: You want to see them in a as close to
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  Speaker 2: game week kind of feel that you can possibly get
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  Speaker 2: without having. Okay, you know what, when we get zero coverage,
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  Speaker 2: we're check in and we're gonna go, as you know,
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  Speaker 2: a fly route over here and this over here. You
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  Speaker 2: know you're not gonna do that to that extent, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: but you're going to give them some plays and you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure that they had you know, the opponents, they
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  Speaker 2: identified them by jersey numbers, so they can get a
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  Speaker 2: feel from that standpoint, both offensively and defensively. Because it's
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  Speaker 2: just another step in the evaluation process to see if
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  Speaker 2: they can handle that. And some guys do great when
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  Speaker 2: it's just being athletic and playing a game plan that's
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  Speaker 2: very simplified in week one and week two of the preseason.
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  Speaker 2: It's a little different when you hand them a game
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  Speaker 2: plan that, okay, that has adjustments, that has maybe ten
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  Speaker 2: times the number of play calls as a preseason game
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  Speaker 2: number one or preseason game number two. You know, because
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  Speaker 2: the one word I think that you'll hear me use
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  Speaker 2: a lot in this show is the word trust. And
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  Speaker 2: I talked a little bit about earlier in the week.
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  Speaker 2: And the reason I bring this up is because you
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  Speaker 2: have to be able to trust players to do what
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  Speaker 2: you're asking them to do. And so this week, by
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  Speaker 2: giving them a game plan, you're going to see if
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  Speaker 2: you can trust them to learn and assimilate a game
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  Speaker 2: plan and to execute that game plan. If you can't
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  Speaker 2: trust him with this next step, then that brings a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of doubt into the thought process of certain individuals.
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  Speaker 2: And then if you're in a situation where, Okay, we've
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  Speaker 2: got a guy that we have experience with and we
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  Speaker 2: know in the past that we could trust him, and
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  Speaker 2: then if you got a new guy that may be
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  Speaker 2: showing some better skill, but you don't trust them, then
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it makes that decision very hard.
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  Speaker 2: Trust is a big thing. Trust from the standpoint can
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  Speaker 2: they handle it mentally? Can they handle it physically? And
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  Speaker 2: then can they be available? Can they be dependable? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: all these terms you always hear about always kind of
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  Speaker 2: fall back on that word trust, jap and so I
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  Speaker 2: hope you don't get tired of me saying it. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: if this was a Groucho Marx show, it would be
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  Speaker 2: the secret word of the day and you would have
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  Speaker 2: said it like five times already, and the duck would
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  Speaker 2: have come down from the ceiling and then mister Rogers
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  Speaker 2: have a word of the day. I think a lot
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  Speaker 2: of shows have had similar ideas. Should break out my sweater? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Show coming up at five o'clock, let's hear from the
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  Speaker 2: head coach. Other news today, Doug Peterson with an update
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  Speaker 2: on the status of defensive tackle to Von Hamilton. He's
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  Speaker 2: doing extremely well.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously, it's a non football you know, related injury, and
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  Speaker 4: he's doing extremely well and our doc said that he
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  Speaker 4: could be back in our building as early as next week,
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  Speaker 4: so we're happy for that.
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  Speaker 2: All right. That's the update, which is not quite an
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  Speaker 2: update of exactly what's going on. But it is a
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  Speaker 2: non football back injury. Obviously, it is a non football injury.
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  Speaker 2: That's the direct quote, correct, Okay, and so I find
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  Speaker 2: this interesting. Okay, well, obviously it's a non football injury.
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  Speaker 2: I think that this is well, I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: it could lead to something, but it certainly would allow
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  Speaker 2: the setup of if you have to place him on
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  Speaker 2: the non football injury list, which JP. You know the
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  Speaker 2: rules very well and I'll let you explain them. So basically,
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  Speaker 2: if you're non football injury at the start when they
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  Speaker 2: cut it down to fifty three, I think you're you
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  Speaker 2: have to be on there for a minimum of four weeks.
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  Speaker 2: That's the way I understand. And if you're on the
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  Speaker 2: NFI list, non football injury list, you do not count
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  Speaker 2: correct against the fifty three correct, And so I just
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  Speaker 2: find an interesting it. Doug used the term obviously this
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  Speaker 2: is a non football injury, which they said it in
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  Speaker 2: the statement when it happened. Okay, they've repeated it a
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  Speaker 2: few times. Okay, so is if it's a non football injury. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: Now they have the ability to put him on the
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  Speaker 2: NFI list, which doesn't doesn't You don't have to use
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  Speaker 2: a roster spot to keep him. And let's say he's
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  Speaker 2: going to be a couple of weeks away into the
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  Speaker 2: regular season until he's ready. That gives the team a
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  Speaker 2: little flexibility from a roster management standpoint, okay. And the
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  Speaker 2: other thing, he's going to be back in the building
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  Speaker 2: next week's like when like Monday? And then what's going
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  Speaker 2: on next week? What's happening? Okay? Well, I mean my
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  Speaker 2: point is that, okay, he's not even in the building now, right,
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  Speaker 2: which this is serious. I mean, if he's not in
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  Speaker 2: the building, I mean okay, if he's not in the building,
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  Speaker 2: is he at home resting, is he at a hospital?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you don't know. Because here's the reality. The
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  Speaker 2: coaches don't have to give any injury information out in
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  Speaker 2: the preseason if they don't want to nothing, So Douglas
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  Speaker 2: doesn't have to do anything. But obviously it's a non
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  Speaker 2: football injury because they've said so multiple times. They've made
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  Speaker 2: it clear. Yeah, so, I mean it'll be interesting. But
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  Speaker 2: here's the reality. He's one of their two best big
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  Speaker 2: guy defensive lineman that there is on this roster. Devon
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  Speaker 2: Hamilton and Roy Robertson Harris are the two most influential
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  Speaker 2: big men on this roster. When I see influential as
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  Speaker 2: far as how they can impact a game day atmosphere
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  Speaker 2: and wreck people. And if all of a sudden one
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  Speaker 2: of those two is not available, and Devon is arguably
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  Speaker 2: your best into pass rusher that you have from the
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  Speaker 2: success success standpoint. If you look at the numbers last
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  Speaker 2: year from PFF, he was the highest success rate interior
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  Speaker 2: pass rusher that the Jaguars had. And just look in
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  Speaker 2: your eyes at training camp. He's a big dude and
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  Speaker 2: he's been winning all the time. Say, has Brandon Sheriff
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  Speaker 2: slowed him down that on on one? No? No, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: I mean that's how powerful Devon Hamilton is. I mean
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  Speaker 2: Brandon Sheriff is you know, kind of gotten, you know,
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  Speaker 2: pushed back a little bit, and rightfully so, because Devon
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  Speaker 2: is a big dude, and having him on the sideline
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  Speaker 2: with a obvious non football intro apparently so we've heard that.
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  Speaker 2: It's that's tough. I mean, okay, could have opened up
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  Speaker 2: a roster spot for somebody else, I don't know. But
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  Speaker 2: the one thing I will say about that position, got
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  Speaker 2: says is another guy that's factors in there. Ledbetter is
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  Speaker 2: another guy that factors in there. Led Better I thought,
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  Speaker 2: had a very good game in Detroit, looked great game.
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  Speaker 2: Gott this not so much but dependable. Nonetheless, you know
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  Speaker 2: what he is though exactly. He's been a very dependable
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  Speaker 2: guy for a long period of time, and you just
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  Speaker 2: don't want to have an injury at that position because,
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  Speaker 2: you know, out of all the positions that you have
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  Speaker 2: on his football team, I would say interior defensive line,
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  Speaker 2: you don't have a lot of depth. That's one of
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  Speaker 2: those positions that in the future I would expect this
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  Speaker 2: football team to end up using some high draft picks
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  Speaker 2: on that position at some point in the very near future. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they were very confident in those starting three, kind of
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  Speaker 2: big three guys Vodokosi's already down with a foot, that's right,
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  Speaker 2: and he's still day to day, week to week. There's
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  Speaker 2: no route he's not. He wasn't going to give many
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  Speaker 2: injury timetables. That's not Doug's m oh so in the
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  Speaker 2: press conference today, he's different guys, healed different ways. He
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  Speaker 2: wasn't going a definitive route. Well, and he doesn't have to,
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  Speaker 2: that's right, you know. So, I mean, why would you
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  Speaker 2: do that, especially when your opponent week one, the Indianapolis Colts,
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  Speaker 2: is tracking everything that going on with your roster. I bet,
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  Speaker 2: I bet. I'm gonna guess they're probably watching this show
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  Speaker 2: right now. I don't think they watched the show, but
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  Speaker 2: I guarantee they watch they I guarantee you they watch it. Doug,
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  Speaker 2: Doug's pressure, Oh, I bet that's that's on Jaguars dot com.
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  Speaker 2: As is this show?
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  Speaker 5: Well?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think they watch it. Hey, guys,
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  Speaker 2: an Andy, how are you doing? We're here? I don't
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  Speaker 2: think so. I bet they do, but I'm sure they're
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  Speaker 2: watching Doug Peterson's press conference. Probably they're gone or any
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  Speaker 2: kind of information that they can get. We'll come back
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  Speaker 2: in a moment. See what we can get into next,
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  Speaker 2: we'll get into the offensive line. Some shuffling up there,
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  Speaker 2: a little beat up there too, Yes they are. It's
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  Speaker 2: you're a social media maven. Maam. You always have been.
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  Speaker 2: Offense and the offensive line. We talked about a lot
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  Speaker 2: of the defensive injuries, just a moment ago. But that
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  Speaker 2: transitions over now to the offensive line, and especially the
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  Speaker 2: depth on the offensive line. There's been some of that
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  Speaker 2: that has been dinged up recently. You know, the front,
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  Speaker 2: if you will, The first team offensive line for the
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  Speaker 2: most part, seems okay, ready to roll. It's Walker Little
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  Speaker 2: at left. Ben BArch is gonna get his chance in
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  Speaker 2: this game. It sounds like on Saturday at left guard,
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  Speaker 2: and the rest you know, Fortner at center, Sheriff at
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  Speaker 2: right guard, and Anton Harrison's working through his shoulder issue.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see what he gets done on Saturday. Probably be
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  Speaker 2: working through it all year. Okay, So there's your starting five,
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  Speaker 2: at least on paper going into week one. After that.
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  Speaker 2: I just about that. You don't thinking, well, maybe not well,
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  Speaker 2: you're saying Ben BArch at left guard. I mean Tyler
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Shatley last year started twelve game. Tyler Shatley hasn't practiced
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: in two weeks. I mean, I think that's My point
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: of that is is that I think that's well, let
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: me bring this up, is to counter to your point.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: How many games has Ben BArch played in the last year. Well,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: he's been out for ten months with a knee injury.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: I mean exactly significant knee injury, hasn't played a lot,
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: literally just retur in to practice last week. Okay, this
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: is gonna be his first game action back since the
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: knee injury. Where's he at? I mean, okay, we'll find
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: out Saturday. And well, I mean, is that would that
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: be enough to say, okay, let's start him? You know
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: what I mean? I mean go back to that word
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: trust day. Is that enough evidence that you're gonna see
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: with your eyes to say, okay, we trust him. He
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: has had his first game action back since suffering a
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: significant knee injury. Or do you trust a guy that
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: maybe doesn't play at all in the preseason that had
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: an aphib event. I mean, I think this is this
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: is gonna be interesting to watch to see what they
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: decide to do at that position. And I'm not saying
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: that Bartch is not gonna start. I'm just saying that
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: that's something that bears watching. Well, here's a question then, right,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, because Doug Peterson today said it was asked,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: who's the swing tackle right now? I mean, that's an
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: easy one, Blake, And he said Blake Hans. Well, Blake
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Hans is listed as a left guard in the depth
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: chart right now, starting left guard correct. So if for
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: some reason BArch isn't ready to go, but that was
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: his past game, I mean, the flip card for this game,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: we'll see. I'm just saying this. Here's my point. If
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: BArch isn't ready and Shatley's not ready, hands, hands, is it?
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Who's the swing tackle Hans, He's doing all of the above, Yes,
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: all right? Who else is up? Well, I mean, you're
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: you're gonna have either Shatley or Barad And what if
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: they're not ready, Well, it's a great question. If they're
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: not ready, then it's probably going to be a Chandler Brewer. Okay,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, but but now you're starting were things are
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: getting thin, That's what I'm saying. I mean, but if
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: you're offense, I'm just saying. Trust is a word again, absolutely,
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, and I think that, uh, it will be
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: interesting if all of those guys are not available. But
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: I would be surprised if all of them are not.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: But it's it's not uncommon to have a starter to
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: be the backup at another position or two on game day,
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: you know, for example, like what we're talking about, Let's
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: say Blake Hanson ends up having to start at left
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: guard because Shatley and BArch are not quite ready. Okay,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: And if all of a sudden, you had an injury
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: that happened to either Anton Harrison or to your left
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: tackle Walker Little Okay, Hans would come out as you're
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: starting left guard and would become the left tackle or
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: the right tackle, and then you'd put in the next
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: guy up at guard, which if it's Channel Brewer or
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Kroy Krunk. Cronk's a dependable guy too. They like him.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Samuel Jackson's a rookie. Ye, Samuel Jackson is I don't
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: think he's gonna make it. Daryl Williams is your backup
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: center right now. I like Daryl Williams, And you know what,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: I just want to say, kudos to Darryl Williams. He
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: played every snap at center at the game in Detroit.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, in a preseason, how many guys play an
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: entire game. What a showcase for him. I mean, yeah,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: what a great opportunity. He's a solid center. I mean,
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: it's a little nasty to Donald He's got a lot
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: of the whistle stuff. He's got a little bit of that, uh,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: what's the right term that I can say? On radio.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: He's got a little a little spice to him. That's
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: a good word. That's the other word of the day.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: A little zest. Yeah, trust and zest. Now I like him.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: I think he's good. He's a he's got a real slow,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: low center of gravity. He's strong, he's got good movements,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: got good balance. I mean, I think I think he's
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: a he's a good backup center. We talked to a
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: lot last week and Doug Peterson talked about this last
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: week after the game that Cam Robinson's performance last week
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: was not Cam Robinson level like or like it should
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: be for a veteran of his caliber. What does he
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: need to do this week? How do you bounce back?
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Play better? And I mean answers played better? What was
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: he doing so wrong last week? Well, when you have
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: when you're starting left tackle is playing in a game
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: which none of the opponent starters are playing, you would
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: expect him to play well, especially given that that is
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: one of the last opportunities that he has for about
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: five weeks to be able to get those reps. And
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: so you want to end up having quality reps because
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: when after five weeks he comes back in if all
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: of a sudden. What the reps that you saw before
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: he left weren't great? Do you have any trust putting
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: them back into the lineup being gone for four weeks? Sing? Right?
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: And I think it was disappointing he Oquara, I think
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: is what the pass rusher's name was. The backup Detroit
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Lions defensive end was given him fits. He got pushed
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: back at times, he was a little off balance. You know,
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Cam's capable so much better. I mean, he's a big
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: guy that's got great athleticism. Certainly expect more out of
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Cam and and I hope that this game shows a
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: lot better. But the reality is, I don't how much
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: will he play this game? Because this game is about
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: getting the starters ready and then also maybe getting the
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: backups ready. So I mean, I would assume that he'll
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: play the second half, but then again I don't know.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, because the priority is is getting the guys
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: ready for week one? Right, Yeah, would you want to
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: see your possible swing tackles exactly? Well exactly so he
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: may not get the number of reps that he got
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: in Detroit, but but yeah, I mean that that was
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: not not the level of performance that you expected out
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: of your your starting left tackle play better when you
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: have the reps. Absolutely, And I here's the thing. I
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: hope that he has a plan for the four weeks
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: that he's out, actually five weeks in reality. Okay, you
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: don't think he'd come back for the second London game. No,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: I mean he could, he hadn't practiced in four weeks.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: He could, But do you trust him? I mean, and
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: that's you. You want to see something in practice because
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: you haven't seen anything for for a while. And when
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: I say he has to have a plan, he's got
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: to go somewhere or be somewhere where he can get
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: some type of comparative training to what he would receive
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: here if he were practicing playing. And I don't know
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: what the answer to that is. Is it a a
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: private trainer? Is it you know, going back to Alabama
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: and then you know, doing some practice drills with the
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: guys at Alabama. I don't even know if that's allowed.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's a good question. I don't know.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: But if you can well and do football stuff I
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: don't know about on the field, that's a good question.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Well do football stuff can you do? I mean, obviously
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: he can't put pads on in a helmet practice against
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: the freshman. But I mean, if if he could go
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: out there and do some of the drills or I mean,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but yeah, you want to make sure
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: that he is doing something to maintain the the football conditioning,
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: the football mindset, the football footwork, I mean, all of
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: those things. You want to try to make sure that
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: you're doing it. And also try to simulate a game,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: because you know, when you come back after after being
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: out for four or five weeks, I mean, you know,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: if all of a sudden, you're expected to start, or you're
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: you're needed to start. I mean you're talking, you know,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: sixty five plus plays is average for a game. I
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: mean that's that's a pretty sizable jump stamina. Yeah. Deal.
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• 26:34
  Speaker 2: How do you spell your X handle?
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: What is it? Are recalling it X because I don't
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: really want to do it?
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Is literally called X formerly.
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: Twitter in the line it's like Staples Center in LA,
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  Speaker 5: like Hinesfield, like just let me be old and crotchety
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  Speaker 5: about it. My full name is k A I N
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  Speaker 5: A N I, and then Stevens is st E V
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  Speaker 5: E N s okay on the X on the X
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  Speaker 5: as you would say.
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  Speaker 2: That's your handle on the X where you post things
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Jaguars related training camps over Kai, how about that?
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: I'm excited.
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: Well, we sall have like one more day of practicey
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: ish things, but it's not open to us, right or
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: is it tomorrow?
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: So we're done. Yeah, so we're fine in our world.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: It might as well be over until Saturday. Yeah, I
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: mean day before games, like a walk through, that's right, Yeah,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: I mean it's you know, funny games, call outs, make
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: sure everybody knows knows their depth, brief meetings and then
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: a day of rest, some meetings at night before bedcheck
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: that they might actually move that. How about a night game?
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Would they move that to Saturday morning the meetings or no,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: that'd be the night before?
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: No?
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: No, no, you well, I mean in the preseason a
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: lot of times you would have the night meetings the
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: night before the game, and then you would also have meetings,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: and you're not going to have them early. You want
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: guys to sleep in to get as much rest as
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: they possibly can and then have like a late breakfast
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: brunch and then maybe a brief meeting then and then
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: a break and then pregame meal and then let's play football.
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: Do we know how the new Are they going to
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: come here to the practice facility or they go straight
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: to the stadium on game day?
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Most of them go straight to the stadium because everything, Yes,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, we don't know that for sure because this
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: is the first time serious. Yeah, but my guess is
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: they go straight there. Everything's kind of over there. They
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: wheeled it over there, I think the day before and
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: I'm sure that George and the equipment guys are telling everybody, look,
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: make sure that you have everything in the bag, because
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: that's what we're carrying over there. That's right. But I
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: give you a funny story because we were talking about bedcheck.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: So I'll never another trust story. Trust. Okay, Well, there's
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: the word of the day is trust. There's a lack
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: of trust, which is why you have that. That's my point,
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: serious lack of trust. So when when I was in
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: New York, are kicker's name was Pat Lee. He was
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: like forty years.
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: Old, okay, and he's getting bed checked.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: And he was getting bed checked. You had coaches that
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: were ten or twelve years junior that were bed checking them.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, this is ridiculous. What we really need
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: to be doing was bed checking our coaches because our
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: coaches back then were out drinking and partyingm and but
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: we're we're bed checking our forty year old kicker. I
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: thought that was ridiculous. Was he always there or did
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: he miss Pat? Yeah? That wasn't going anywhere. Okay. He
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: was my neighbor. He actually literally lived right next door
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: to me and loved him because he would always invite
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: me over for dinner. You know, I was a young,
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: single guy, and you know his wife was a good cook,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: and so I got free meals and then he'd come
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: over to my house to drink beer and dip his tobacco.
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: It's like I need to break Yeah, I was.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Gonna say, I think we buried the lead. We need
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: the Jeff Logaman stories of bed check now, I was
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: always a bed checking and the stories that whether or
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: not the air now, but it was always fun that
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: you would sometimes be in and you were always trying
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: to embarrass the bed check e because the door, you know,
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: you're the bed check had they had the master key,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: it would be the bad checker, the bead checkers. I said,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: check e, you're the check bed checker, they're the checker.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: He had a master key, and I guess somebody at
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: the hotel had a master would knock on your door
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: and then open it, so it's not like they waited
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: for you to come and answer it. They would just
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: open it up, peek your head and make sure you're
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: there and and then say goodbye. And there were some
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: guys that would that would wait for the bed check
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: and it would be sometimes wouldn't have a stitch of
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: clothing on a purpose just to mess with the bed checker,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: you know. But anyway, Oh they're there, all right, Yeah, yeah,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: I didn't do that JP. Of course, why would.
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: You, you would never.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Very respect of always very usually the bedcheck coach has
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: got a signed to it. Back in the day, I
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: don't know how they do it now, but like every
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: coach had to do it, and everyone had a different night.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: So one night it was this guy, next guy, next
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: night it was another guy, and everybody had to do it.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: You know, at some point like training camp.
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: I would love to see Phil Rauscher do bed checks.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: That would be fun. Dene coach, he might be one
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: of the best coaching personalities that I've ever I've ever
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: been around.
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: If you ever blessed to talk to him, it's it's
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: a time.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: He's awesome. It's a trip. And just wait till you
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: hear some miked up he was these guys. Yes, I
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: mean talk about must see miked up TV. Yeah, I
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: mean a lot of it.
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: We had to bleep and cut out, but the stuff
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: that made it is still entertaining.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: That's the good stuff. Kayle. What's the most pressing issue
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: for this Jaguars team going into Saturday? Uh?
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: Health obviously, on the offensive line, I think, just because
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: with the moving parts and when you make that final roster,
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: you want to go into it. That was a position
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: of depth when they went into the season. Obviously a
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: lot of the backups got hurt in that game in Detroit,
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: so kind of solidifying where everybody's at. They have a
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: lot of versatility, so it shouldn't be difficult in terms
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: of specific positions, but you still want to have as
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: much depth as you can because protecting Treffor Lawrence's game
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: plan number one, keeping him upright, and then I'm just
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: excited to actually see a fast start because we talk
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: about having a fast start all the time and for.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: A long time.
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: We got to make that happen, right Like you come
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: out and Trevor throws a pick in the first we can't.
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: That's not going to help. That's not doing it. So
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: I would love to see an actual fast start out
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: of them on Saturday, and know it's preseason, but you know,
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: with as many starters as they are going to have
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: going in that game, it will be nice to see
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: that fast start.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, it was the last time we actually saw
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: a fast, true fast start around here. Straight scoring drives
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: a minute, I mean, how many people I'm talking.
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: Like at least okay, score on your first drive and
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: then you know, I don't know, maybe field goal something
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: like that, like just some I would like to see
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: it consistently when they get the ball in their first possession.
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: There's points out of that that would be great down
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: the stretch.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Last year, they're behind early, They're having to play catch
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: up all these games. I would rather have a strong
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: finish than a fast star. I mean, right, I mean sure, right.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: I mean it's about winning, but you don't need as
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: much of a furious finish if you start better. Well, no,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: but I mean you still have to play. I mean, look,
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: there's so many different we can talk around this seven
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: way focal points that you can have in the coaching
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: speak world. Okay, let's have a fast start, let's finish strong,
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: let's play sixty minutes. I mean there's a million different things.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, you just want to play well and you
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: want to win. Okay, however you get there, I'm all
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: four fast start, slow start, medium start, strong finish, slow finish. Okay,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: as long as you win, I'm all four.
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: Score one more point.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Roight yards, cloud of dust whatever, that's what it takes,
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: but it's just funny because it's just I think it's
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: a lot of coaching speak. And look, the reality is
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: is that this is a better football team I think
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: than last year, especially offensively, and I think we will
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: see a fast start. I don't necessarily have to see
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: it against Miami. You want to see it on a
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: regular basis once they get them in the regular season
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: to where they're starting good. I don't want to say
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: fast because do you just want to see him start good?
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: And you know, and obviously you know, as long as
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: you win the game, it doesn't matter how you do it.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: One more point, baby, it's all. It takes, all it takes.
• 34:30
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  Speaker 5: Indeed, let's do this. I'm excited. I'm excited to see
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  Speaker 5: some of the fans out and.
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  Speaker 2: About strings sports brew, good beer.
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  Speaker 5: Let's do it.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Never do something great food, too good beer, very good food.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: I recommend the Wings, the Alabama sauce.
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he wings on air. That's a little unprofessional.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: I'm not on the air, so I guess what I
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: could eat? Are you coming to. I don't know, I might.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: I figured you might if there's wings involved. I mean
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: I think you're I think you owe me a beer
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: for what from strings last year? I think I bought
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: you a beer, did you? Yeah? I know you owe
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: me lunch you've been holding. I think I think the
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  Speaker 2: time you bring that.
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  Speaker 5: Up needs the favor.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Oh great, Yeah, of course, trying to get somebody to
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  Speaker 2: have a beer with me. Okay, well maybe i'll show up.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Cool, You're gonna love it over there, guy.
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  Speaker 5: I'm excited. Hopefully everyone tunes anything. We're on Fox, right,
• 35:29
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• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Yep, all extra seven, Me, you, and some guy named Martina.
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: I mean he covers the team a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: I think his name is Martina Martino something like that.
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• 35:45
  Speaker 2: that's Martino. Yeah, a new guys, a new guy. Check
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• 35:53
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• 36:01
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  Speaker 2: the seven o'clock kick, And should be a nice crowd,
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  Speaker 2: should be great weather, and let's see some football at
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  Speaker 2: the bank. Last time the Jags played a game in
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: the bank, the wild card playoff game against the Charger.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Tremendous game, unreal, tremendous game. And I hope and again
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel hasn't said anything, or least Ward hasn't gotten
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: out of Miami whether the starters are gonna play or not.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: But I was really hoping and I'm still hopeful that
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Tua will play, because when he plays, he's he's a
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: good quarterback. I mean, you were just looking at the
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: stats before we came on the air, and I I
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: asked you, and you figured it out just because of
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: who were playing this week, I said, who is the
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: highest rated quarterback from last year? I mean, if we
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: were doing a different team this week, you probably throw
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: out Patrick Mahomes, But he was the second highest rated
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: quarterback last year, and Tua was the highest rated quarterback.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: And so I was hoping that they would play Tua.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: And then also, what is the one of the number
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: one positions that need to be evaluated on this football team.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: For the Jag corner corner right, and what better way
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: than the speedy receivers in Miami, I mean the Cheetah
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: and uh Jala Jalen Waddell. I mean, if those two
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: guys played with Tua, I mean, wouldn't that be a
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: great opportunity for evaluation. I don't know if they're going
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: to play or not, because both of the wide receivers
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: were limited in practice or did not practice this week,
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: did in practice Wednesday, They've they've I think one of
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: them had an abdomen injury a couple of weeks ago,
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: so it's been kind of that throughout camp. But I
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: I wish we could see him. I don't know if
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: we will, but I hope we see starters, you know,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's nothing worse than having a game that
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: your starters are playing and they're not playing any starters
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: and I can't It happened last year and I don't, Well,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: it happened and we went against the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: that's right, in preseason Week one. You know, you go
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: to Dallas and you know, the starters play for a
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: couple series and Dallas didn't play anybody, You're like, eh, yeah,
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: to a first and rating Patrick Mahomes second, Jimmy Garoppolo, third,
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts, fourth, Gino Smith fifth. Gino had a tremendous year.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: How about that? I mean tremendous year, but got paid
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: for it. But you know what I'm looking forward to also,
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: even if to it doesn't play, I want to see
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: this body that Ryan Clark so aptly described. So obviously
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: he's he's co host with Fred Taylor and Channing Crowder
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: on the Pivot. We saw them discuss things with Trevor Lawrence.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Was the Pivot. No, it was on ESPN, and I
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: guess Clark was talking about his body and how he
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: said something about it he's not training or whatever. So
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Tua in his press conference, to his credit, was like, hey,
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: keep my name out of your mouth. You don't know
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: my training habits. I don't think it was the name.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: He was talking more about the body, right, but he said,
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: you know, keep my name out of your mouth. That
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: was his quote. And so Ryan Clark today like put
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: out this long apology about, Hey, sorry I questioned your
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: training and all this, and it was it was kind
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: of weird social media. It's kind of kind of odd.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: So now having read that about, I want to I mean,
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: I want to see what looks like I'm going to
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: guess Tua has not been sitting on the couch eating cheetos. Well,
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: supposedly he's been doing jiu jitsu and he's gained some weight.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: He's trying to so the whole thing with that, right,
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: he took all these jiu jitsu classes to try to
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: learn how to fall differently because that was the case
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: with his concussions last year he was hit his head.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: Maybe he can embrace differently or roll or whatever that is.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, if it works, great, I mean, I'm I'm
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: all for. First of all, I think martial arts training
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: is a great way of complimenting your training towards any
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: athletic endeavor. And so I mean it's it's cool, But
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: I mean I don't quite see the the jiu jitsu
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: learning how to fall, and I don't know, maybe I
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: miss him something. But but anyway, nonetheless, I want to
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: see too, and I want to see if he looks
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: like one of those dancing girls. Did you do? Ryan
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Clark talked about any jiu jitsu when you were playing
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: any of that stuff. No I wish I did taekwonda,
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: I wish I did judo. No, none of that. No
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: I wish I did because you know, one of the
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: things that is definitely true. And we used to actually
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: call one of the pass rush moves that I had
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: was called the karate kid move wax on wax off.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Wax On wax off. Doesn't the motion right for mister Miagi, Okay,
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: wax on wax off. You know, you change the motion
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: when as a pass rusher, when you would knock the
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: hands down of an offensive lineman, you did that wax
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: on wax off. So whether it be going this way
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: or that way, you were knocking the hands down to
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: get by the offensive lineman. And so we actually called
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: that the karate kid move wax on wax off. Sense
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: to me and then, But so, yeah, martial arts training
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: can be awesome, especially for defensive lineman. They didn't teach
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: you the crane kick though, you can't can't use that.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: That would be a penalty, Yes, that would be a penalty.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: But that's a pretty cool move. It's not bad. It worked. Yeah.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Time for the injury report presented by Baptist South and
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: the Jacksonville Orthopedic Institute, the official sports medicine provider of
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: the Jacksonville Jaguars. It's a relatively long lee us these days.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Von Hamilton with the non football injury back issue, could
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: be back in the building as early as next week,
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Doug Peterson said earlier today. We'll see what that means
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: when he is back in the building. But that's really
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: about all the team has said. What Doug Peterson said today,
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: could be back in the building fully. Fatakasi with a
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: foot issue and week to week he's walking around with
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: a boot at practice at least was the other day.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Josh Wells, with an aductor that's a growing issue, could
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: miss some time, according to Doug Peterson. Cooper Hodges with
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: a patella injury could miss some time as well, according
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: to Doug Peterson, Again, they don't have to give official timetables,
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: they don't have to have an official injury report at all.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: This time of year, you get credit for being so open.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: He's been very old. I mean, that's which is great.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, you're not trying to hide anything, but I
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: mean I think it's been fantastic. I mean from the
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: fans standpoint, you know, fans always want to know what's
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: going on with their football team, and when the head
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: coach is uh is open and I think that makes
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: it makes it good. I mean, you think it's just
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: it keeps people interested and informed about their football team.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: Antonio Johnson rookie safety with a hamstring injury, and they're
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: still not sure on the timetable for him either. He's
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: a good football player. Ja they liked him a lot.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, they still do. I like him. I'll never
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: forget the first week of practice, the pads hadn't even
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: really gone on yet, and I asked the question of
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: a couple of coaches about, you know who, who's you know,
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: anybody standing out. I know, it's early, the pads aren't
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: on yet, I mean, and Antonio Johnson's name was like
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: one of the first names to come out of multiple
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: people's mouths, and they were extremely impressed. And then and
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, come on, Underwhear, Olympics, get me
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: a break, right, And then all of a sudden, the
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys game, you know, pads came on and he
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: you know, shows a little bit, but then you watch
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: I watched the game film from the Dallas game, and
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: I was like, Wow, they're not lying. I mean, this
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: guy makes it look easy, I mean effortless, and very
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: disappointed that he got hurt because I think that he
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: he might have carved a roll out in this defense
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: in some way, shape or form, whether it been in
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: a nickel package or multiple safety package of some kind.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: I think that he's that good. Listed at six to two,
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: he might be bigger than that too. I mean he's long, yes,
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: and he's not afraid to use that size. Surprisingly physical
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: for a guy that tall. A lot of a lot
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: of that played safety, you know, and he played the
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: nickel in college, which I remember watching the film on him.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: I was like, you know, hey, he's a good nickel
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: in college. I probably can't do that in the pros. Well,
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: I mean after watching him, and well, maybe he can
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: do that in the pros. I mean, he's he's been
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: that impressive. And the Jaguars had a higher grade on
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: him than the position that he was drafted in the
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: fifth round. I think they had like a like a
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: you know, second or third round pick on him because
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: I remember when after that Dallas game started asking and
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: I was like, hey, look, you know, why did this
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: guy fall? I mean, is there something negative that I
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: don't know about or didn't hear about, and they're like, no,
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: you know. And some guys just sometimes can fall. And
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: especially at that position, if you're a safety and you
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: don't have a ton of interceptions like Cisco had or
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: you know, a guy that made splash plays, I think
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: sometimes it can be hard to get noticed, to get
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: drafted real high, because safety is not considered a premium
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: position like corner is. We mentioned Wells and Hodges in
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: the offensive line. Tyler Shatley has been off to the
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: side since the atrial fibrillation issue and was slated to
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: come off blood thinners. Doug Peterson said, I believe today
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: so could be maybe back on the field next week.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: We'll see what happens with that. Chandler Brewer was in
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: the concussion protocol early this week, no word on the
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: status there. And Anton Harrison has been playing through or
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: trying to battle through that shoulder issue we talked about earlier.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: Some other guys. Let's see Shatley working off to the
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: side again today. Dewan Smooth still on the pup list
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: to start camp, and Ross mattisk the long snapper is
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: out of practice with a shoulder issue. There is your
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: injury report presented by Baptist Health and the Jacksonville Orthopedic Institute.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: So our final thoughts coming up in a few moments.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: It's the Doug Peterson Show. We'll hear plenty from the
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: head coach and his press conference earlier today. Doug will
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: join us back in studio week one before the Jaguars
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: face the Indianapolis Colts at Lucas Oil Stadium. That's a
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: couple weeks away from now, but now it's the final
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: preparations for preseason Week three the Dolphins and the Jaguars.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: The jag starters will go maybe a couple quarters. Clean
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: operation is kind of been the buzzword this week on
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: the coaching side of things for you today on this show,
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: the magic word is trust. How can a guy earn
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: that with one game to go well or well? Let
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: me give you an example. Okay, I'll give you a
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: couple guys. Okay, last week, you've got two guys that
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: are on defense that are rookies that are looking to
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: make an impact. Abdullah Okay played a lot last week
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: because the Stars didn't play. Also was asked to play
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: special teams. Ventre Miller I got quite a few snaps
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: at linebacker last week, also had some more snaps on
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: special teams. Sure, they need to be better on special
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: teams this week because if they're not going to show
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: that they can be better, then they can't be trusted.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: They got to show that they can be better in
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: that segment of their game so that the coaches can say, hey,
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: we trust you to not only play positional defense, but
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: also to be able to be able to be a
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: contributor on special teams because if you can't, they may
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: go to a different option to do it by Tuesday
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: at four o'clock. The old rule thumb. Look, if you're
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: not a starter, you have to be a contributor on
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: special team and what are you doing here? Then you're
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: not gonna be on the field at all. If you
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: can't contribute on defense or on special teams, you're drinking
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: all our gatoring. Well last week, you know, because the
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: starters didn't play, those guys kind of double timed. Yeah,
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: they didn't played you know this, you know, offens or defense,
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: and they had to play special teams. Some of those
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: guys were gabs gassed. Absolutely. But if you're not doing
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: one of the two. Then what are you doing? Hey? Yeah,
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: you gotta do some JP. I was the first round
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: pick in nineteen eighty nine. You know what. I played
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: all defensive snaps. I played on all special teams. You
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: were a core guy. I played every special team. Larry
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: Pisqually was a special teams coordinator. I played punt, punt return, kickoff,
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: kickoff return, field goal, and field goal block. It can
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: be done, and I sucked a lot of win. That's
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: Jeff lock of it. I'm JP Shaddrick. I thanks to
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: Kay Stevens and our entire crew coming up in mere
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: moments the Doug Peters Show. We'll hear from the Jaguars
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: head coach in his press conference from earlier today as
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: we preview preseason Week three, the Dolphins and the Jaguars
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: coming up. Thank you for listening to Jaguars Happy Hour.