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The Colts Report with Will & Dave Retherford: Preseason Game 1 Reaction (3.330.1) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

• 0:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: You are listening to the cult report with Will and David Rutherford, only on the central India sports report.
• 0:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome Colts fans to the Central Indian Sports Report for this week's Colts Report with Will and Dave Rutherford here to react to the season opening, preseason opening, 1313 tie with the New England Patriots.
• 0:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: We learned a little bit about the Colts in this game and what we learned for sure is that we have ourselves a kicker.
• 0:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: We had talked about that at home watching it together about, honestly, that was the one thing in the first preceding Amin's Patriots that we won the watch was Rupert or Shrader.
• 0:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I feel like everything I've heard is that Rupert kind of had the leg up before.
• 0:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, the first preseason game and as seems like traders got some positive momentum in his favor My guess is that either one of them probably is a top 32 kicker in the league and whoever they cut gets immediately signed in his kicking week one So I don't think it's, you know, one of those where they're fighting for a job
• 1:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: somewhere they're going to get a job but i think trader to me deserve the opportunity probably to be the kicker coming into this year because of how he performed last year was 14 to 15 extra points 15 to 15 from field goals he did get the benefit of getting a leverage penalty called where he missed a 60 yard kick against the Broncos to lose the game and ended up being a 45 yarder and he nailed it so
• 1:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I guess you could say he missed one of his field goals, but he deserved the opportunity to be this cult's kicker out of the way that he was injured last year, especially if you're taking a kicker out on an extra point attempt, you're a, a really shitty person.
• 1:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think if you're if you're just diving that kickers knees, I get every point matters of the NFL, but I mean come on.
• 2:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: I had to have reconstructive surgery this knee because you decided that you wanted to be a, you know, extra team hero.
• 2:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it cost the cult's mightily.
• 2:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Michael Badgley was not good when the cult brought him back.
• 2:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think there were games you thought, you know, if Spencer Shraders here, they might win this game because they're losing by a possession.
• 2:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: And having a kicker in today's NFL is a huge advantage over a team that doesn't have one of those top, I'd say 12 kickers in the league that really set themselves apart.
• 2:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Dave, I think if you kicked along this vehicle in franchise history in the preseason, you're automatically the kicker, right?
• 2:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you're still more two more preseason games to go, I guess.
• 2:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: So he could miss.
• 2:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: He could miss three or four kicks here the next couple, couple weeks too.
• 2:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, but I agree with will.
• 2:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, obviously, Schrader was was having an amazing year last year when things went south boaring to really no fault of his own.
• 3:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so now he should have been the guy that they were
• 3:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: uh... that's not to say that group he didn't earn his right to be here as well but
• 3:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, see what happens.
• 3:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I Greg, I do think there is something to be said with groupy, having the franchise longest kick and that game against Seattle last year where the cults went up to Luminfield and had a lot more troops with sling and filler ever.
• 3:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I don't know.
• 3:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I guess we'll see, I mean, the extra or the special teams coordinator got his knee blown out and that multiple torn ligaments is what was reported on the last play of the game.
• 3:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: So you got to feel for that guy, um, that's tough spot to be in a week, one of the preseason and all of a sudden, I'm at, I don't, how do you coach?
• 3:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, is he going to have a scooter on the sideline?
• 3:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I, that's where I'm, I'm wondering, you know, your special team's coordinator, I had not typically up in the press box, but they might have to adapt a little bit.
• 4:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: It seems silly, but that's a real concern.
• 4:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like, what do you do now?
• 4:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: The Pentagon, if you can walk on it or not.
• 4:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: because he can have surgery after the season, but if they can't walk on it.
• 4:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: the look of the dude's face on Thursday when it happened.
• 4:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: He was in a lot of pain.
• 4:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you could tell when it happened.
• 4:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they had a damn prayer vigil.
• 4:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: It looked like Riley and Leonard got pushed into him, but that's something to consider moving forward is, I mean, he's been the guy making this decision, is he's still the guy making this decision or practice given the unfortunate timing of the multiple torn ligaments in your knee.
• 4:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think the bottom line is it was Spencer Schrader's job, Blake Groupie was holding it for him in case he wasn't healthy enough to be the same Spencer Schrader as he was last year, but now we know that he is, so I think it's his job and I'll be disappointed if it's not his job.
• 4:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Plus we like him.
• 5:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: We do.
• 5:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: We do.
• 5:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm in mind you that he was and can't put the cults.
• 5:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: His rookier coming out another day, but they still had Matt Gay under contract.
• 5:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: So he did get cut.
• 5:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now he did kick some of that season.
• 5:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: I believe for Washington and Kansas City.
• 5:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: I believe that he got attempts for both of those teams.
• 5:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's been really good in his early pro career.
• 5:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I agree with you.
• 5:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think if he's not the guy, I would be a little disappointed.
• 5:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: I like groupy, but I do think that there is something to be said about having a five seven
• 5:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I get that it, you know, it's more than that, but I just, I don't know, there's a reason he was cut from New Orleans.
• 5:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's talk about Anthony Richardson.
• 5:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Some good stuff, and we also saw why he is not a starting quarterback in the NFL.
• 5:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, after that first, after that first throw, I told, I told Will that I could make that completion eight out of ten times.
• 6:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was an absolutely horrendously under-throwed pass, and I thought, oh, this is not going to go well.
• 6:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this is just not going to go well, and
• 6:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then he kind of got under control and he settled down.
• 6:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: And honestly, I thought he had some flashes where, you know, like, that's the guy we we drafted.
• 6:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the reason why we drafted him when we did.
• 6:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: his ability to run and move as well is, you know, he has noted, still think that there's a place for his skill set someplace, but clearly he's playing for a backup role, and but I've already looked pretty good, and I think, honestly, he outplayed his competition, at least in the previous game number one.
• 6:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Greg, I know that I've been a staunch defender of Anthony Richardson from day one.
• 6:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how you don't like Anthony Richardson experience.
• 6:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's not a guy he had two checkdowns on his fumble.
• 7:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is Anthony Richardson in a nutshell.
• 7:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: He had two wide open checkdowns so the right side if he just goes through his progression.
• 7:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: He decides he's going to tuck it.
• 7:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: He gets a 10-yard gain and then he just, I'm most agree just ball on your inside arm.
• 7:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: I've ever seen in my life.
• 7:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's Anthony Richardson.
• 7:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, he's got a little hot of car some wins in him.
• 7:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just an exuberant amount of car some wins and then we're this guy.
• 7:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's he's going to fuck up at some point.
• 7:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: And if you just give him enough opportunities, he's going to have a turnover, but in the process of doing that, he's going to give you four plays that you look and say there's maybe two other humans on the planet that could do what he does.
• 7:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that is why he is going to have a job I think in the NFL's backup quarterback first long.
• 7:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: He wants to as long as his preparation and scout team reps on a week to week basis are good enough to give teams a legitimate look.
• 7:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's where the Anthony Richardson gives you.
• 7:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Is he a starter?
• 7:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think that his peak, absolutely.
• 7:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think his ceiling is top five quarterback in the league.
• 7:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you get everything under control, I don't see how you watch his performance on Thursday and not have him as your quarterback too going into the year.
• 8:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think trading him would be just a complete malpractice given the conversation we had on Greg versus Will, where, I mean,
• 8:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think there's a fair statement to say that Daniel Jones is probably not playing every game.
• 8:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're gonna have to get star-tad to your back up quarterback.
• 8:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think Richardson clearly assigned to himself as the guy that you want to do that.
• 8:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, I don't know what their personal issues are between Stike and Richard's in between Ballard and Richard's in.
• 8:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think there is some unresolved tension there from everything that's happened.
• 8:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: And rightfully so, I think it'd be difficult to be a professional.
• 8:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: And basically, be scapegoated for everything you've done wrong when the people brought in to make the best version of yourself didn't do their job either.
• 8:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's a too pronged, double-edged sword issue, but I thought he played great.
• 8:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
• 8:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he 200 plus yards of total offense and a half, yeah, I'll take that.
• 9:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think that Anthony Richardson, if he could stay healthy, I'm serious to thank he could rush for 1200 yards.
• 9:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think some day, there's going to be an Anthony Richardson game or an Anthony Richardson stretch in the NFL.
• 9:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's just probably not going to be with the cults.
• 9:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: You can see that there's things he can do that no other quarterback in NFL history can do with his strength and size and speed.
• 9:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: But man, he just makes so many stupid mistakes.
• 9:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: He got to get in the end zone on that when he's diving for the end zone too.
• 9:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: I, for example, I just,
• 9:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: It just seems like he's not all there thinking of the game through and it's too bad because man is he fun to watch.
• 9:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, when we talk about, you know, he's got to get me in zone there, you know, two years ago, we'd have been on here complaining about the fact he took unnecessary contact.
• 9:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, I mean, I think that there, when you're watching him play, especially that run raise down at the one yard line before the fumble that was absolutely attached down, you say that he did the smart thing.
• 10:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: He avoided contact.
• 10:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: He tried to get to the pylonies and he came down a little short.
• 10:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if you didn't slow-mo that visual, Greg, it looked like he got in.
• 10:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I just, I think it's one of those conversations where if he goes and gets blown up at the goal line, you say, well, God, Anthony Richards, I want to dumbass for taking unnecessary contact on the free side.
• 10:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: We need to start comparing him to Cam Newton.
• 10:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Cam Newton was running over you at the one yard lot.
• 10:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now, he was going to avoid contact all over the field, but at the one yard line, he was getting in the end zone.
• 10:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's what I think I did to some of the, I'm not saying you're wrong.
• 10:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying it's week one of the preseason.
• 10:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: If he goes and just has a some Catholic injury where he, you know, some of the half of their career, man, him fighting for his career is being on the field week two in the preseason.
• 10:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: If it's not for the Colts.
• 10:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Greg.
• 11:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's him fighting for his career because every opportunity he has given to play a half of football and show this is what I can do.
• 11:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is the tape I can put out.
• 11:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Is an opportunity for him to be a backup quarterback for as long as he wants to.
• 11:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because I don't think that I would want a backup other than Anthony Richardson.
• 11:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Somebody that is incredibly athletic.
• 11:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: somebody that when you lose your starting quarterback and the scheme and the overall design for that week is already out the window.
• 11:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Everything you play at game planes out the window once you're starting quarterback goes around.
• 11:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't make anybody, I mean, I would consider him a hooper.
• 11:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: I want that guy and a pick up basketball game that can go give me buckets.
• 11:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's Anthony Richardson.
• 11:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's a freak athlete.
• 11:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I want the cults to really consider keeping him because
• 11:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know we're probably going to talk about this after this, but Riley Leonard clearly is not.
• 11:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh.
• 11:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Not the guy.
• 11:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that Houston game was a fluke more than it wasn't anything.
• 12:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was a really good game plan designed for Riley Leonard and he executed it fairly well, which says to me, he's probably a third string quarterback to me NFL somewhere, and that's the best we're going to see from him.
• 12:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Good reason he was drafted in the seventh round.
• 12:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's, yeah, yeah, he's he's a practice squad guy.
• 12:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: I, I think that's right.
• 12:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Good athlete, another guy that, right, if he, if he was played another position, maybe he could be an NFL guy, maybe, but he just looked like a definite third string practice squad guy.
• 12:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's what I thought all along last year, we saw some glimpses,
• 12:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: the coaching last year and how prepared they were game in and game out.
• 12:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: The game plans, first half last year they were good all year and I think Riley Leonard did a good job taken advantage of that but that's that's over.
• 13:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm very rich.
• 13:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we, Daniel Jones is without question the quarterback Anthony Richardson is not ready for that.
• 13:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think we've seen that, but you're right.
• 13:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: As a change of pace, as we need him for a game, it's pretty exciting.
• 13:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I hope we get to see it honestly, not that I wish anything, but Daniel Jones to play 17 games this year, but it would be good to see some.
• 13:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Anthony Richardson man he's fun.
• 13:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: I want them to give him a game.
• 13:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: I really know that doesn't happen the preseason, but I want them to give him a just entire game just to see what he can do.
• 13:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll show him off for other teams if he's trade bait.
• 13:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: We don't want him to be, but if he is,
• 13:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think Riley Leonard, you know, when it's different when you do are the guy for the entire week of the game plans, head around you, you get all the first team reps.
• 14:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: So only the Houston it was necessary, probably the flu guy said it was, you know, it was he did have a whole week of preparations, starting quarterback, got every rep, and I think that helps.
• 14:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, in training camp, it's getting dived up amongst, you know, the rest of the team, but it was concerning
• 14:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: that you know he was playing with the second team guys that he would be practicing with a lot of practice and just there was something off and I don't think the the cold receiving room outside of Alec Pierce and Josh Jones is leaving a whole lot to be desired to because they struggled a little bit.
• 14:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think for the Titan room was they're saving grace.
• 14:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're going to talk about the standouts that come in here in a minute including
• 14:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: The fourth tide in looked really good, and we've been talking all along about how good the colds tide in room is, and we haven't even been talking about Will Mallory, so it's another thing that we're going to talk about here in just a minute.
• 15:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Since we brought him up, Dave, let's just start with Will Mallory, and that was a nice performance.
• 15:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think Will Mallory is just a guy that nobody talks about.
• 15:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's a tight end in the room that has kind of just quietly goes about doing his job.
• 15:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: He comes in.
• 15:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's honestly been productive in just about every opportunity he's been given.
• 15:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just not real sure why his name isn't brought up a little bit more often.
• 15:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because I got three other pretty darn good tight ends.
• 15:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm interested to see him in Ogletree fight for that Titan 3.
• 15:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think we know Moali Cox is a blocking threat and I think that you've seen flashers of athleticism from him in multiple seasons that show that he's a really good Titan 2 to have.
• 15:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right, I think it's a bounty of riches a little bit.
• 15:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think that Will Mallory has been able to show off when given opportunities that he can catch the ball.
• 16:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think sometimes he's still a little limited in the run game where Oble tree and Moale Cox are really good in the running game and really tired of the warrant is for that matter, too.
• 16:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: So,
• 16:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: you know, there is always the brides made never the bride.
• 16:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: It just kind of feels like he's not really been given his opportunity because of the guys that he's had around them.
• 16:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: But let's also not forget, there's a reason you've been a Titan 4 for your whole career.
• 16:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's probably about what you are.
• 16:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: If he's that good, he's going to get opportunities to start in games and there's clearly something we're not seeing in practice that I would say is glaring enough that
• 16:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: that being said he's a great special team or he plays on all the special teams and there's something to be said for that.
• 16:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just think it's that there are three other guys out there who are really good.
• 16:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think Ogletree is
• 16:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: It really good tied into and I think they got two of those guys and that's as a receiver in particular and you can't well I like Cox's blocking was so good last year that you can't make you wonder if you can keep four and use four with this lack of wide receiving.
• 17:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: You keep four because because Mallory is so good on special teams.
• 17:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm be curious to see when they come out in 13 personnel with three titans on the field that if maleries the guy or football tree, because I think we know it's worn in Moalecox.
• 17:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's the, you know, who of the other two is going to be the guy they bring out?
• 17:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's an interesting battle because
• 17:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's something that we've not even considered because it's like we have Tyler Warren so it doesn't matter But we've got what I think is a top three best title in the entire league with his totality play and what he's able to do on the football field So I think this will matter conversations fun.
• 17:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's great I'm glad he got to show his week one of three season highlights and he'll be able to you know give that to his kids one day But let's be honest, you know, first
• 18:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we've got the Golden Goose using your guy Jim Harball's term in and out of the war.
• 18:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's just all for not.
• 18:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just don't feel like it's really that big of a deal.
• 18:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, I agree, I mean, when you've got three other guys ahead of him that are as strong as they are, there's a reason why he's tied in for, right?
• 18:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: But there's a place for him on this team, the wide receiver room is is lacking right now.
• 18:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: If for no other reason, he's shown that he's got good hands, that he can catch the pass and give him a chance if your wide receivers aren't necessarily doing what they're supposed to be.
• 18:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: So.
• 18:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to put a limit on what Coleman no one can do because of his first rep that we saw with him, which was a ball that went right through his hands, and to intercept him.
• 19:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: So he's achieved way more in football than I could even imagine he was probably all state, one state championships and high schools, probably the best athlete that's ever come out of his area to even be on an NFL roster.
• 19:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going to absolutely say that.
• 19:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: with the idea of also saying that he's not an NFL receiver, right?
• 19:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he's a five nine return guy though.
• 19:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you might be a special return guy.
• 19:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's what we've been hearing.
• 19:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: I hope you're right.
• 19:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: I really hope that you're right, but
• 19:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: you know, I guess what you do with with Anthony Gold because I thought he looked awfully good last year in his chances to.
• 19:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that, you know, are you going to keep Coleman Owen as a second return guy?
• 19:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: I, I really struggle with that idea.
• 19:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, especially when you've got a guy at Josh downs that can do it on the short term if there's something that happens to Anthony Gold on a week.
• 19:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not about the running backs were pretty good, but they need to upgrade it running back to for sure.
• 20:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I kind of left feeling like Seth McGowan was going to be like probably the number two.
• 20:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: I come with you.
• 20:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure that they right now have a number two that I feel good with.
• 20:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he only had five carries for 17 yards.
• 20:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, that's 3.2 yards per carry, but like that's just not going to get it done, especially when that's preseason.
• 20:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're planning against guys that aren't even going to make full roasters.
• 20:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: These are guys that are going to be practice squad players.
• 20:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm with you.
• 20:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think there's a lot to be said about why your silver depth and running back depth and crisp out half and make a move to do something even even if the move is wrong make a move to show the fan base like, hey, we acknowledge that these are weaknesses on our team and we are trying to make them stronger even if it doesn't work out because right now the receivers do not look like they're going to be
• 21:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: really any of them.
• 21:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the fact that I'm even talking about Nick Westbrook, Keineg, it just kind of pisses me.
• 21:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Why that guy is going to be potentially your wide receiver too?
• 21:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Ashton, do one once again, a hell of a gadget player.
• 21:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't really think I want him to be my, you know, third receiver.
• 21:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Greg, outside of the slot.
• 21:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we know that we've got downs and peers, but right now, the
• 21:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just, I'm not seeing a lot of good coming from that and I'm worried that he's not going to be ready week one and they're just kind of buttering us up before they stick to the knife.
• 21:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I need to get put well, Mallow, or out at wide receiver, aren't they?
• 21:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, Greg, the funny thing is, as if he was 20 pounds lighter, he would have tested better than Michael Pittman in the combined.
• 21:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this will malery cat.
• 21:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's a hell of an athlete.
• 21:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you look at their SAS scores from their combined, will malery came out as a greater than better athlete.
• 22:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: If he lost 20 pounds, he'd be the same size, he'd be a wider silver.
• 22:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I think there is something to be said that he's a type athlete that can do that, but
• 22:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's also not disgrace, the absolute junkyard dog of Mike Pittman was either.
• 22:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: The man who's gone, gonna miss him a lot.
• 22:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Guys, how concerning though is that two of our most important skilled player positions don't have any depth.
• 22:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: And this don't have any depth.
• 22:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: So we can say that, you know, just give the ball to Taylor and let him run all time, but at some point he's gonna need spelled
• 22:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, we don't have a guy.
• 22:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I do.
• 22:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Stop, stop.
• 22:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: We've got to quit this narrative.
• 22:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, no, no, no, no, I meant put him in a quarterback.
• 22:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, they're not going to do that.
• 22:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're not going to do that.
• 22:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know.
• 22:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
• 22:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about the defense because we saw some really good signs from some young guys.
• 23:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: been heard here in about Caden Curry, you know, former Senator Grove Star, and he looked really good last night.
• 23:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: I thought that both linebackers who will and I are very high on haven't gotten Dave's thoughts on him yet.
• 23:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Alan and Betcher both made some plays and looked good at times.
• 23:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: They look fast.
• 23:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: So the defense, if we saw anything positive last night besides kicking and Will Mallory, it was definitely those pieces on the defense.
• 23:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Greg, I couldn't agree more.
• 23:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: I thought Tade and Curry looked phenomenal.
• 23:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: I get he's going against second team offensive tackles, especially with Drake may not playing.
• 23:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was timing to veto, so you're not getting there.
• 23:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: A offensive line, but he was just, he raised hell over the field.
• 23:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: He was everywhere.
• 23:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the fact that a guy in that time, in his first game, he's a defensive line, and he led the team in tackles.
• 23:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: He had three quarter
• 23:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: you know, two past defenses, you know, I, I don't know that there's not a spot for him as the number two behind lot to really give in what we've seen so far.
• 24:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: It feels a little crazy to say, but is it really, I don't think so for him yesterday is what we've been waiting to see from a lot to, I gotta say that I know it's nuts, but I, I liked him when they drafted him.
• 24:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I thought it was a steal of a draft, especially considering how good he was for Ohio to stay.
• 24:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: He flew under the radar with everybody that came out of that defense and they had three first round draft picks.
• 24:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I think it's difficult to make your name when you're around, you know, that pedigree of talent.
• 24:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: He looked like an NFL guy.
• 24:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was no question there.
• 24:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's a Sunday NFL player.
• 24:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: and a position that cults desperately need to find some death that because they've freely struggled talking about the linebackers as I thought they played fast.
• 24:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: It looked, they played with reckless abandonment.
• 24:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: It looked like Bryce Betcher.
• 24:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure I've ever seen a linebacker move as fast as I use a white flash.
• 25:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: The one highlight of him just breaking through the re perfect read, perfect reads of everything, fundamental breaking down the line for tackles for loss.
• 25:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like,
• 25:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: My god, the colds haven't had that all the long time.
• 25:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know the goose bumps when I saw that.
• 25:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was violent.
• 25:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that CJ Allen is going to be a stud.
• 25:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: I love the fact that he's going to be the green dot.
• 25:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I thought AJ Halsey looked good for his drive.
• 25:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that they have a lot of depth right now.
• 25:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: In the second area, I thought the secondary looked good.
• 25:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: The corners are poultry at best.
• 25:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: I do fear that we're going to have to really hope that we can keep soft-gardener and mooney ward on the field at the same time, because I like Jalen Jones.
• 25:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't love him.
• 25:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we'll see.
• 25:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I think if we're talking strictly about what we saw from the front seven, depth wise, you've got to be happy.
• 25:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I thought they performed really well.
• 25:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: That defense looked really good.
• 26:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: I absolutely agree and I guess what I would just say is the defense showed that they have the depth that it's going to take Sunday and in Sunday out and I feel like the offense hasn't shown that yet and that that's little concerning there but but overall I thought we we got some pressure.
• 26:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, which, you know, colds, new terrors, so they don't get very much of, I thought we covered pretty well.
• 26:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: There were no, what I would call, agree just, uh, you know, lack of coverage, again, keeping it perspective that we're not getting there very, very best offense either.
• 26:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: But overall they came out, you know, and they, they had to go up against the people they had to go up against and they were solid.
• 26:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: just need to remember it's a preseason game but man there were some good signs with those guys and if those guys are good the defense could be pretty good.
• 26:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Defense is gonna turn around really quickly.
• 26:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're near your base, it's a much more variable than I think the offense is.
• 27:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think the peak for this defense is probably top eight.
• 27:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think realistically, if they're in the top 12, you feel awfully happy with what I think they're going to be able to do with Joth and Taylor and Daniel Jones with Tyler Warren and regretfully Alec Pierce in Joth Shouts.
• 27:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Guys, thanks so much, this is a lot of fun.
• 27:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's do more real soon.
• 27:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Season 3 of the Central Indiana Sports Report begins on Monday.
• 27:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to have lots and lots of culture reports coming up in the next few weeks.
• 27:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Two, three times a week.
• 27:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Any chance we get the top cults.
• 27:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to talk cults at least twice a week every week going forward.
• 27:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: In what's the season begins.
• 27:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: We might even talk three times a week depending on what's going on.
• 27:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you've been listening to the culture report at all,
• 27:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: less hope in this team then, will does, but even I got to say it's a really interesting team that could go in a lot of different directions.
• 28:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: I kind of got a little excited about seeing taking a curry a couple of other those guys on defense.
• 28:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: This could be fun.
• 28:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: It could be a fun team.
• 28:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for listening.
• 28:34
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• 28:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I love choosing.