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What on earth happened in Catalunya?! MotoGP Pit Talk · Pit Talk

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  Speaker 2: Six writers penalized, three race starts, two writers Center hospital,
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  Speaker 2: one reigning world champion exploding at his own team. Oh
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  Speaker 2: and that was just the Grand Prix because in the
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  Speaker 2: sprint we had the closest sprint finished in history. That
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  Speaker 2: was Moto GP's catalan Grand Prix, and it delivered pure
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  Speaker 2: chaos from start to finish. And you can say it
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  Speaker 2: will go down as one of the wildest, most dramatic
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  Speaker 2: weekends this sport has seen in years. This episode of
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  Speaker 2: Ronita Vanmuelin, and joining me to unpack the chaos from
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  Speaker 2: Catalonia is a man who survived more Motor GP paddic
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  Speaker 2: dr that a term one restart at Montmellow. It's Matt Clayton. Matt,
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  Speaker 2: have you had a chance to breathe yet since the weekend.
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  Speaker 3: It is funny because we're a couple of days removed
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  Speaker 3: from it now and I'm ticking off all the things
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  Speaker 3: your intro go, yes, that happened, that happened. I've forgotten
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  Speaker 3: that it was the closest sprint result in the history
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  Speaker 3: of MotoGP sprints is twenty twenty three. And this is
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  Speaker 3: not just me being lazy here. To be fair, that
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  Speaker 3: was the fourteenth most crazy thing that happened over the
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  Speaker 3: course of the weekend. It just felt like it never stopped.
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  Speaker 3: And it's something about this race track that tends to
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  Speaker 3: throw up a bit of dramas, which I'm sure we'll
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  Speaker 3: talk about in the next half an hour to forty
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  Speaker 3: five minutes or so. But my goodness, there was there
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  Speaker 3: was a lot to process, and at the end of
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  Speaker 3: it all like you kind of exhilarate it, but you
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  Speaker 3: just been drained by the whole thing because you're trying
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  Speaker 3: to work out what's the most important takeaway for the
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  Speaker 3: entire weekend. And it did dawn on me in the
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  Speaker 3: day after the race that the most important takeaway is
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  Speaker 3: the really obvious one, in that we were very, very
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  Speaker 3: fortunate to not have more serious injuries for a couple
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  Speaker 3: of really really awful accidents over the course of the weekend.
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  Speaker 3: You know, if you could call minor in inverted Cobba's injuries,
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  Speaker 3: what happened to Alex Marquez and Tojo and Zako. But man,
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  Speaker 3: what a weekend and just one plot twis staff or another.
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  Speaker 3: Wasn't it pretty much?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you hit the nail on the head there,
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  Speaker 2: And okay, I try and make these intros, these pods
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  Speaker 2: quite lighthearted and funny, but in seriousness, it is one
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  Speaker 2: of those situations where it really brings it back home
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  Speaker 2: that you know, these writers are risking their lives for us,
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  Speaker 2: for our entertainment, and yeah, okay, we're lucky we get
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  Speaker 2: to talk about it and write about it and post
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  Speaker 2: about it on socials, but ultimately, you know, these are
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  Speaker 2: human beings with families and friends and they're risking their lives.
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  Speaker 2: And like you said, we got really really close to
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  Speaker 2: multiple situations. Even with Digitio, which we was talking about live,
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  Speaker 2: you know that someone was looking down on them this
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  Speaker 2: weekend and made it so that, yeah, they walked away
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  Speaker 2: with injuries that were they're able to recover from and
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  Speaker 2: hopefully get back on the bike sooner rather than later. So,
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  Speaker 2: while like I said, we keep everything lighthearted, Yeah, it
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  Speaker 2: really really did hit home, and I think I want
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  Speaker 2: to start with we know the outcome for Fabio, not Fabio,
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  Speaker 2: That's who I'm trying to get to. We know the
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  Speaker 2: outcome for Alex Mankes, we know the outcome for Joanzaka.
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  Speaker 2: At the moment, I want to talk about Fabio dig
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  Speaker 2: Antonio because he won Sunday's Rum Prix ultimately, but if
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  Speaker 2: you were to go back in hour to the start
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  Speaker 2: of the first race when we had that incident, he
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  Speaker 2: nearly had a front wheel a set of forks coming
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  Speaker 2: directly at him, How he managed to jump back on
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  Speaker 2: a bike, how he managed to then fight once again.
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  Speaker 2: We know he's had the pace, we've seen it all season,
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  Speaker 2: but to then go and take the win here, the
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  Speaker 2: first win that he's had with VR forty six, his
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  Speaker 2: second win in Moto GP history. Honestly, to me, it's
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  Speaker 2: just astonishing and a positive from that weekend is he
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  Speaker 2: got the victory.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, look, seventy minutes after some other rider's will
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  Speaker 3: knocked him clean off his motor bike and injured him,
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  Speaker 3: He's turned around and won his second Motor GP race.
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  Speaker 3: It will get sort of lost in all the headlines
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  Speaker 3: of the accidents and the controversies and all of the
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  Speaker 3: other sort of chaos that happened over the weekend. He
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  Speaker 3: we've discussed it. He's having a really, really good season.
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  Speaker 3: He is Ducati's best rider on complete merit so far
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  Speaker 3: this season. He was ahead of Mark and the championship
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  Speaker 3: before Mark got injured. As completely legitimate with him this year.
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  Speaker 3: But to show the mental fortitude that he had to
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  Speaker 3: in that hour and a half period, I mean, he
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  Speaker 3: was very, very fortunate to not be more injured by
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  Speaker 3: the Marquees Wiel hitting his bike, And it was really
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  Speaker 3: interesting in the post race press conference, which I'm not
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  Speaker 3: sure whether you were. You're probably like playing three pianos
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  Speaker 3: at the same time at that point, so who knows
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  Speaker 3: what was going on. But it was really interesting in
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  Speaker 3: that he was asked about the incident when he got
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  Speaker 3: hit by the Marquees wheel and he almost sounded a
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  Speaker 3: bit disappointed in himself, and that he said he knew
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  Speaker 3: the danger that he was riding into and he used
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  Speaker 3: the word blocked in that he was just mentally blocked.
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  Speaker 3: He couldn't work out what to do in the circumstance
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  Speaker 3: where he knew he was riding into a dangerous situation,
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  Speaker 3: and he said, maybe I could have moved more to
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  Speaker 3: the left, or I could have made a better decision.
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  Speaker 3: I realized the danger that I was in and I
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  Speaker 3: kind of just froze. And that's really interesting that a
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  Speaker 3: to admit that, be to have the clarity of thought
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  Speaker 3: with all of this going on through your head after
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  Speaker 3: you've just wanted your second Grand Prix's like, yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: didn't actually handle that very well. Now, to his defense, yet,
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  Speaker 3: there's no playbook on how to handle this. You do
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  Speaker 3: not expect an exploding motorcycle to be riding into the
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  Speaker 3: path of and just where he was on the track.
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  Speaker 3: But it was interesting in that he after the race
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  Speaker 3: was more like, yeah, I did not handle that great,
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  Speaker 3: but I also don't know how you're supposed to handle
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  Speaker 3: something like that, because this is an unprecedented situation. We
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  Speaker 3: see accidents like this happen at the front of emotor
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  Speaker 3: GP races, but never at the front of the field
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  Speaker 3: at a point where the entire pack's about to ride
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  Speaker 3: through it. And that was the interesting part for me.
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  Speaker 3: He was in the wrong place at the wrong time
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  Speaker 3: by virtue of the fact that he was up the front,
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  Speaker 3: So for him to turn around after not one but
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  Speaker 3: two restarts, remember, and to have the best or second
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  Speaker 3: best win of his career, as only two of the
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  Speaker 3: choose from it's just more testament to the fact that
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  Speaker 3: he's really made a lot of progress this year. And
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  Speaker 3: as much as we don't have these contracts for twenty twenties,
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  Speaker 3: evens still announced officially, he's turned what he's done this
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  Speaker 3: year into becoming what he's always wanted to become, which
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  Speaker 3: is fully paid, full factory writer. He'll be going to
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  Speaker 3: KTM next year with Alex Markez. Of all people, those
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  Speaker 3: two are joyed together in that story as well. But
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  Speaker 3: there's part of me with this year in that you
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  Speaker 3: know what it's like in this business and to take
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  Speaker 3: people behind the curtain here. You're not supposed to play
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  Speaker 3: favorites when you're in the media side of things, but
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  Speaker 3: you're always going to be more conditioned towards being happier
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  Speaker 3: for people that go about it the right way. And
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  Speaker 3: he just goes about every aspect of his job, whether
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  Speaker 3: it's within the team and the sponsors and the fans
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  Speaker 3: and the press. He's a guy who does it right.
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  Speaker 3: And when people who do it right get the rewards.
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  Speaker 3: You can't help but feel happy for him. His journey's
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  Speaker 3: been super interesting, even to get to Moto GP, the
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  Speaker 3: fact that he was almost out because Grassini had the
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  Speaker 3: opportunity to side Mark Barkes, which every team would say, sorry,
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  Speaker 3: whoever the other guy is, we're siding Mark Barkeres. He's
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  Speaker 3: managed to actually kick on and have a stronger second
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  Speaker 3: part to his career, turned himself into a factory writer
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  Speaker 3: in his late twenties. Really pleased to see a nice
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  Speaker 3: guy get a great reward, but to do it under
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  Speaker 3: those circumstances where he was injured and he still managed
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  Speaker 3: to come through when it mattered in the Grand Prix.
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  Speaker 3: It's hugely meritorious. I think it's one of the better
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  Speaker 3: wins we've seen for a long while.
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  Speaker 2: I agree, I think it's one of the better wins.
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  Speaker 2: But I also think for him, he was so humble
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  Speaker 2: about it, you know, straight away he said, like I'm
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  Speaker 2: just so happy that you know, Alex and Johanna are okay,
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  Speaker 2: and like this isn't just about me winning right now,
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  Speaker 2: It's about us. And it's like I have noticed from
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  Speaker 2: Digia this year, and especially from that press conference, might
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  Speaker 2: have been in harass where he was like, can we
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  Speaker 2: stop talking about where I'm going because I'm still writing
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  Speaker 2: for VR forty six right now. I want to go
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  Speaker 2: and celebrate with my team. I want to be with
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  Speaker 2: the team. I feel like he's kind of really showing
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  Speaker 2: this this humble side to himself aside that we've never
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  Speaker 2: really seen before, and it's quite refreshing. It's kind of
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  Speaker 2: nice to see this hot underneath the levels, like they're
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  Speaker 2: actually genuine human beings there, which is really really interesting.
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  Speaker 3: Too, because well and also because he's not sort of
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  Speaker 3: your standard sort of VR forty six rider. He's not
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  Speaker 3: part of the academy, He's never one of the chosen ones, right,
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  Speaker 3: He's kind of been the This sounds a bit cruel, sorry,
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  Speaker 3: did you. He's kind of an ugly duckling right with
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  Speaker 3: the Italian riders in a lot of respects. Because he
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  Speaker 3: wasn't brought up as being some Rossi protege or someone
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  Speaker 3: who was amazing in the junior classes and what have you.
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  Speaker 3: He's kind of gone about it a different way to
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  Speaker 3: end up in the same destination. Now he's fallen in
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  Speaker 3: with Rossi's team more through you know, it was a
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  Speaker 3: landing spot for him when he didn't really have many
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  Speaker 3: other options when with the Grassini thing folded up, so
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  Speaker 3: for him that to turn that into a success. And
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  Speaker 3: you mentioned the fact that he wants to enjoy it
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  Speaker 3: in the present. Yes he does because of where he's been,
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  Speaker 3: but it's also been the thing that's catapulted him into
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  Speaker 3: this potentially better situation for twenty twenty seven. So I
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  Speaker 3: don't think this is the last race he wins this year.
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  Speaker 3: I think you know, we've seen that there's going to
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  Speaker 3: be certain tracks where the aprillia is a little bit fallible.
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  Speaker 3: And then you look at the rest of the field.
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  Speaker 3: Who do you trust right now to be there on
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  Speaker 3: a day when an aprilia is not going to win? Now,
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  Speaker 3: Mark's out at the moment he will be back. There's
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  Speaker 3: no one else on a decady really right now that
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  Speaker 3: you trust. Honda would need something remarkable to win a race.
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  Speaker 3: Yamaha would need no other bikes in the race to
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  Speaker 3: win a race because of how slowly they are Pedro
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  Speaker 3: Acosta will probably win to race before this season is over.
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  Speaker 3: Let's be honest, but did he is almost the most
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  Speaker 3: trustworthy guy of everyone else on the grid right now
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  Speaker 3: to step into the breach when a breach comes about.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't think it's the last time we see it,
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  Speaker 3: and this is one of the we could. This is
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  Speaker 3: like eight podcasts down the track for us. But I'm
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  Speaker 3: so interested later in this year where there's going to
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  Speaker 3: be all those all these guys that know they're not
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  Speaker 3: riding for their current teams or even their current manufacturers anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Once that's all out in the open, it's going to
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  Speaker 3: be really quite weird, frankly, in this championship fight where
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  Speaker 3: you're going to have all these people that are capable
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  Speaker 3: of winning races for teams they're not going to be
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  Speaker 3: with in six months time or so. That's going to
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  Speaker 3: be super interesting when that happens. It's going to be
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  Speaker 3: this weird little undercurrent. At the back end of the season.
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  Speaker 3: You look at the standings and you'll say, well, he's
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  Speaker 3: not staying there, he's not staying there, he's not staying there.
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  Speaker 3: There's going to be more people moving than not. And
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  Speaker 3: I was talking to someone earlier today it looks like
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  Speaker 3: there's going to be one of the eleven teams is
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  Speaker 3: going to have the same rider lineup one season on season,
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  Speaker 3: which selci a Honda. Yeah, incredible to think there's that
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  Speaker 3: much change you throw into the mixed brand new bikes
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  Speaker 3: and rules and rags and everything for next year. It's
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  Speaker 3: going to be so weird the back end of this year.
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  Speaker 3: I'm all for it because I'm looking forward to what
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  Speaker 3: it does to the championship picture. But we've you know,
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  Speaker 3: sometimes you have these situations with boter GP where you'll say, oh,
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  Speaker 3: it's a bit like twenty fifteen, it's a bit like
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  Speaker 3: two thousand and six, whatever it is. This is not
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  Speaker 3: a bit like anything. We've never done this before. And
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  Speaker 3: that's what makes the back end of this year so
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  Speaker 3: interesting because once all these contracts get announced, to Jane
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  Speaker 3: Antonio being one of them, where does this season go?
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  Speaker 3: We don't know because we've never experienced this.
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  Speaker 2: I think. I mean, there's that as a writer changes,
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  Speaker 2: but there's the bike changes. And that kind of leads
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  Speaker 2: me into the next thing that I wanted to talk about,
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  Speaker 2: which is the fact that we have the massive changes
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  Speaker 2: coming with the ban of the right height device. Right,
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, let's talk about Zarko's crash. I want to
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  Speaker 2: know the ins and outs of that and in what
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  Speaker 2: you think because of what my research is and what
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  Speaker 2: I've been reading from some of the other journalists like
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  Speaker 2: Matt Oxley especially saying we need to ban those now
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  Speaker 2: because that was the cause. Now, I read an article
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  Speaker 2: where Zarko was saying that mentally he wasn't there for
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  Speaker 2: the start of the second lineup, which already straightaway is
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  Speaker 2: a red flag. And I mean for these guys to
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  Speaker 2: like you said, the crash happened at the start of
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  Speaker 2: the pack, we saw like Jack. You even wrote about
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  Speaker 2: Jack writing past seeing Alex on the side, like how
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  Speaker 2: that fads to them mentally, then they have to get
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  Speaker 2: themselves like the adrenaline pumping again to then go and
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  Speaker 2: line up on the grid to then rerase once again.
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  Speaker 2: And if Zaker is already saying that he recognized he
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  Speaker 2: wasn't feeling it, then that crash happened, Like obviously it's
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  Speaker 2: it's a combination of things. But do you think that
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  Speaker 2: the right high devices should be like that should change
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  Speaker 2: now or is this just the term one Catalunia.
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  Speaker 3: Mess I don't think it's in either or. I think
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  Speaker 3: both are true, right and for the simple reason that Okay,
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  Speaker 3: so we know the launch devices are going to be
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  Speaker 3: banned for next year, It's one of those things that
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  Speaker 3: these factories spend a massive amount of money on, and
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  Speaker 3: they basically all are at the same conclusion, so no
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  Speaker 3: one's getting a benefit out of you know, there's not
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  Speaker 3: really someone's ride height device or launch device is better
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  Speaker 3: than somebody else's. Something they all have because it's a
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  Speaker 3: performance gain, But then everyone gets the same performance gain.
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  Speaker 3: So part of me is thinking, A, we're wasting money
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  Speaker 3: on something that provides no tangible benefit. B. They're all
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  Speaker 3: being banned for next year anyway, and see if there's
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  Speaker 3: a safety element to all of this. If it's adding
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  Speaker 3: nothing really to the show in verticma's the show, why
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  Speaker 3: are we doing it? It doesn't make any sense to
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  Speaker 3: me from a financial point of view and a safety
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  Speaker 3: point of view. If everyone's just arriving at the corner
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  Speaker 3: at the same speed because they've all done the same thing,
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  Speaker 3: then what are we actually doing this for. If we
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  Speaker 3: can take some sort of safety element out of this.
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  Speaker 3: The other factor with this particular circuit, this is one
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  Speaker 3: of those race starts each year that maybe more than
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  Speaker 3: any other track, I kind of watch with a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of trepidation because it's five hundred and ninety five
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  Speaker 3: meters from the start line to the first corner or
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  Speaker 3: the breaking zone, and cattaloona. I know this because I've
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  Speaker 3: written it seven hundred times in the last week. It's
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  Speaker 3: the longest to turn one on the calendar. And the
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  Speaker 3: problem with the start line being so close to the
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  Speaker 3: last corner. By the time the bikes get down to
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  Speaker 3: turn one, they are at absolute full speed. They're doing
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  Speaker 3: three hundred k's an hour, and they haven't breaked yet,
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  Speaker 3: so everyone's still got their launch device down where you
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  Speaker 3: break it. Term one is if you're at the front
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  Speaker 3: of the pack, great, take your doll breaking marker.
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  Speaker 4: That's fine.
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  Speaker 3: If you're in the pack as they all fan out
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  Speaker 3: across the track there, you're getting sucked in by the arrow,
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  Speaker 3: so your breaking marker can be distorted because you're probably
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  Speaker 3: arriving there quicker than you would want to be. You
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  Speaker 3: haven't actually disengaged launch device yet, and so when you're
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  Speaker 3: in the pack. We see accidents here all the time.
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  Speaker 3: We saw one twenty four hours earlier in the sprint
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  Speaker 3: because De jan Antonio checked up into Brad Bender, who
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  Speaker 3: took out Juanmir and two guys went down. Two years ago,
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  Speaker 3: Inee Bastien Andi smashed himself into a million bits at
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  Speaker 3: the first quarter because he completely missed his breaking marker
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  Speaker 3: only broke his wristling. He's out for about three rounds.
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  Speaker 3: The year before that, Takannaka Gummy's head hit Peco Banna's
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  Speaker 3: rear will similar accident where he lost it under breaks
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  Speaker 3: at the same corner. It's the biggest black spot in
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  Speaker 3: motor GP and so to my mind, the lack of
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  Speaker 3: launch devices would be helpful. Also, could we just move
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  Speaker 3: the start finished line like two hundred meters further down
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  Speaker 3: the straight here? Now, it's not going to make it
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  Speaker 3: safe because it's guys riding motorcycles.
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  Speaker 4: It's not going to be safe.
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  Speaker 3: But if the entry speed down to turn one is
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  Speaker 3: two hundred and ten k's an hour and not three
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  Speaker 3: hundred k's an hour, there's a degree of accident that
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  Speaker 3: you're going to have that is way less severe than
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  Speaker 3: what you could have at tern one. Now, is this
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: the correct configuration of quarters for a motor GP bike
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: in twenty twenty six? Probably not, but we go there.
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: We know the risk here. But to my mind, does
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: the start finish line need to be where it is?
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: And Jack Miller said this on Sunday after the race.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: It's like we've brought this up for years, like the
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: run down to term one is too long with the
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: performance of current motor GP bikes, and so you think, okay,
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: what are the options to having a different start now.
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: In car racing, you can have a safety car start, obviously,
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: because that's the way it works. They're all single file
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: or two abreast or whatever it is. That's not feasible
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: for motorbikes. So let's not even talk about that. You
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: can't really have a rolling start motorcycle racing. Let's be honest,
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: you're never going to make Term one at Catalunya's safe.
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: You can make it safer than it currently is by
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: just making instead of it being five hundred and ninety
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: five meters, make it a three hundred meter run to
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: the first corner. The bikes aren't in fifth gear, they
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: are pushing three hundred ks an hour, and you get
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: the start devices disengaged. It makes it safer, not safe,
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: but safer. It just seems like an unnecessary risk to me.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: For those listening who might not know this. On Thursday,
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: riders who choose to can go and have a meeting
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: with Erta. It's the Safety Commission, and they because a
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: lot of these riders have been to these tracks a
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: billion times, they know they'll go and do a walk
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: around the track and then they'll go and raise any
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: concerns that they have. And clearly we know that Jack
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: has done that before. So it's a situation where how yeah,
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: they listened to the writers because they're the ones that
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: are on the track. But also it's not the first
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: time this has happened, So why is it now in
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty six and they're still bringing up the same
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: safety concerns?
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: Right, That's exactly the point. The fact that I've just
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: I detailed three different accidents at the first quarter. I mean, hell,
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: let's go back even further. I'm pretty sure Chris was
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: in this race the Sete Jibbidaw won there many many
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: years ago. That was tenpin bowling at the first corner
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: at Catalonia as well. That's like two thousand and seven
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: or something. I can't remember the exact year off the
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: top of my head. We've been talking about this at
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: this track for nearly twenty years, Like, so what are
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: we actually doing? Like it seems like we get there,
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: everyone's like oh, there might be a pile up at
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: term one, and then there's a pile up at turn
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: one and everyone goes huh, and then we'll get there
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: next year, nothing will happen. I don't get it. I
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: just don't see if the track's going to stay on
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: the calendar. Now here's a separate podcast for fourteen podcasts
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: down the track. Do we need four grod prix in Spain? Well,
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but it seems to me that we
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: know of this risk and we just willingly go into
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: these weekends and kind of cross their fingers and hope
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: it doesn't happen.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: That just seems a bit dumb for modern day motor
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: GP For me.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: No, exactly. And I think there's there's the fact that
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: we go to this track and we know that those concerns,
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: and I've brought this up a few times and people
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: are gonna they can go at me in the comments.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: But the fact that then people will say their thoughts
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: and opinions about the street circuit in Adelaide, where it's
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: going to be like purposely designed so that you know
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: it is like how can we make it so it's
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: a win win situation for everybody and I think it's
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: just a case of if it's simply moving the start
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: finished straight so that we're not having such severe accidents
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: like we did in this case. It was the Zarko
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Banyaya one. Like, that's that's its own thing. We'll talk
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: about Alex and Pedro at a second. But if we
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: can just make that small change, okay for sure, But
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: is that going to happen? I don't know. If me
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: and you get on the board to Montmelos circuit, we
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: can go and change that.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: But this is the thing with it right, Like, we're
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: not we're talking about a chain. It's actually a pretty
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: easy change to implement, and it's actually not that hard.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Move the half finished line closer to the first corner,
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: reduced to speed going to the first corner. The race
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: is still the same number of laps, the same number
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: of kilometers, The right guys will still win. We're just
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: reducing a proven risk. This is not the first time
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: this has happened here. It probably won't be the last
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: if we don't change it. It's a really easy tweak
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: to make. The riders are going to be on board
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: about this. It's going to look just as good on TV.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Let's just take the unnecessary danger out of it. It just
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: seems a bit dumb to me.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Let's move on from this because the frustration rising your breath.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Bus Yeah, I just want to touch quickly on the
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Alex and Pedro incident, okay, or we will see in it.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: We've all seen the replays, we will see the photos.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: I don't necessarily want to talk about that. I want
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: to ask your opinion and clarify for the listeners what
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: exactly happened with Pedro's bike? What was the outcome there?
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it sounds like there's an electronic s glitches.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: He's probably going up through the gearbox, I would say.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: So something some alarm or some safety thing has basically
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: shut itself down. And you can see if you rewatch
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: the how the accident commenced, which I did. A Costa
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: realizes there's an issue and his first instincts put his
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: hand up. Now, Unfortunately Alex Marquez was so close behind him,
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: and so whether it's hit a false neutral or whether
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: it's not gone up until the next gear, the time
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: that he took to realize there was a problem and
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: raise his hand. The closing speed of these things, as
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: you know, is so immense. So if at that point
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: Alex Marquez is doing thirty five to forty k's an
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: hour faster than a Costa, because a Costa's got a problem.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: This is the problem with you being under the bubble,
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: sucked into the slipstream like this, you're going to be
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: the first person to avoid the accident. I thought he
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: did amazingly well Alex to not run clean.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: Square up the back of Pedro Costa.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: The fact that he was able to slightly duck out
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: from behind him and hit the side of a Costa's bike,
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: that was the thing that saved a Costa quite frankly.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: So it's a technical issue for a Costa. You mentioned
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: the Adelaide street circuit thing here, and this is something
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: that I was hoping that we would get to because
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: this is not a ranch. This is just an opinion.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: But bear with me here.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of people that were conflating the fact
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: that Alex Marquez ran up the back of Pedro Costa
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: and had a massive accident as a reason why we
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: should never have motor GP at street circuits. Now, should
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: we have motor GP at street circuits, that's a separate discussion.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: I have my thoughts on that. I am probably more
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: averse to having street circuits than anything else. To my mind,
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: this accident, it was not a human error by a costa.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: It was a bike malfunction. That accident could happen at
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: any part of any lap of any racetrack around the world.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: It could happen at a permanent race circuit. It could
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: happen in a street circuit. It could happen at a
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: circuit that nobody in motor GP likes at Hungary, let's
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: not talk about that. It could happen at a circuit
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: that we absolutely love in motor GP, like Phillip Island.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: It could happen there, you know where it could happen.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: That really scares me. Imagine coming over the brow at
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: the top of the start finished straight at Bagello where
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: they are doing three one hundred and sixty k's an
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: hour and a bike with another bike right behind it
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: has a technical issue and dramatically slows down. That's an
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: airplane accident if that happens. And so this is not
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: something that well, we shouldn't go to street circuits because
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: this could happen at a street circuit. It could happen
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: at any circuit on any quarter at any time. For
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: all we could have known, a Costa could have had
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: that issue at turn five at Barcelona where the bikes
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: are rolling through and you have a pathetic slow speed
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: fifty five k at hour accident and everyone gets up
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: and they're annoyed with each other, and we're not talking
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: about the sorts of injuries. It could happen anywhere, because
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: these are machines that, unfortunately can have glitches and break down.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: If a Costa was thirteenth in the field and he
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: had no one running behind him and that issue happens,
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: everyone goes, oh, Pedro Costa broke down. He's out of
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: the race, so whatt No one discusses it. So it
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: was the absolute perfect storm of time place where it
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: happened in an acceleration zone, out of a corder, going
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: down a back straight everything. As much as you said before,
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: someone was looking down on motor on Sunday, there was
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: a lot of bad luck that had to happen for
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: that accident to happen in the first place. But to
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: use the consequences of that accident to say this is
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: why we shouldn't have street circuits and we shouldn't be
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: going to Adelaide. Do I think we should have street
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: circuits that should we be going to Adelaide is a
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: separate discussion for me, But I don't think you can
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: conflate one with the other. I just think this accident
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: could happen anywhere anytime.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: I think you're right. Alex dodged Pedro and did like
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: the absolute best he could.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: Incredible.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: You know, these guys are having like split second decisions
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: to make these calls. The fact that he then obviously
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: went over onto the grass there's like a random bit
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: of concrete, there's like a like a service rodentially onto
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: the track, and then that messed the bike up. And
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: then the fact that he had to then make another
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: decision to jump off the bike, so we avoided hitting
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: a wall right there. You think what he went through
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: in the shortest amount of time possible is absolutely phenomenal.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: And the fact that he is walking away with a
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: fracture to his vertebrae and injury to his scapula, which
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: I believe is colarbone. That's it. So that's all played
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: it up and he's going to be good. We know
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: that people have surgeries or he Lorenzo had surgery and
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: his collarbone was back racing like literally the following week.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: So the fact that he walked away with that limited injury,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: obviously in a really bad concussion too, on top of that,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: absolutely phenomenal. Just to make those decisions. Someone the other
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: day spilt a coffee and I went to catch it
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: and I couldn't because I froze, because I you know,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: I couldn't make a decision like that in that amount
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: of time. The fact that they're doing it at those
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: speeds and everything else that's happening on our motorg you
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: people like at the exact same time blows my mind.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: And the other thing about circuits too, Like you think
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: of every single if you picture in your mind every
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: single bridge shot at the start of a Grand Prix,
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: what do we have on either side of the group.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: We have walls, right, So this accident, the fact that
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: it happened on a strait, generally we don't get crashes
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: on straights. We get crash in corners. And so just
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: for the safety of the separating the pit lane from
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: the track, or the wall that separates the grandstands from
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: the track, every single motor GP track has two walls
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: either side of the start, finish line. It just is
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: some of the walls are further back from the actual tarmac,
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: like Philip Island's a good example on the left hand
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: side of your TV.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: Picture if you're looking at it from that way.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: But there's walls everywhere, because we don't have accidents on
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: straits generally, do we. So the fact that this situation
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: where Acostas bike had and malfunction and was the catalyst
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: for the accident, that accident could have happened at any
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: track anywhere. It were just incredibly unlucky for everyone involved
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: that it happened there, unlucky but lucky at the same time.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: But to think this is the sort of accident that
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: could only happen at certain circuits, No, it could happen anywhere.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Like I said, I'm just so happy that these writers
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: are able to walk away with minute injuries compared to
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: what we actually saw. And like I said, I don't
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: want to go into it. You've all seen the fairiers,
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: you've all seen the videos. You know what's happened there.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: The thing I do want to go into that was frustrating.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: What is it with this weekend? The frustration entire pressure
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: penalties was six in the end and obviously Jack Miller.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: One of them is Juanmir Hi was on the podium,
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: and then you have that whole DeBakey afterwards with the
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: trophy going blah blah blah. It's annoying. It's annoying because
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: we're seeing races where the strategies having to come into play,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: but it's not the strategy that we're wanting to come
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: into play, you know completely.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: And also because this race, you know, at the end
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: of it, you've got two restarts, so the actual Grod
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: Prix last of for twenty minutes, and obviously you know
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: someone like jeanmir spent the entire race basically right behind somebody.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: It was a Costa early and it was the Janetodio
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: at the end, he was right there in traffic. You
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: could not have done more to actually get your tire
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: pressure up because he was in traffic the entire time.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: But there's a whole you know, it's a shorter race.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: It was much cooler in Cattle that it always for
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: the Grand Privich is kind of weird on the Sunday,
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: and so even as it was going on, like Jack
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: Miller said after the race, he said, I was trying
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: absolutely everything to get the tire pressure up. But you know,
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: when you have the quick restart procedure, you have a
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: short race, you have cooler track conditions.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: It doesn't matter whether.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: You're riding in a heaper traffic or not, it's probably
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: going to happen. But you love This is like a
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: classic motor GP story. So you mentioned the six riders
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: that were up for penalties at the end of the race.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: Five of them were penalized. Mere lost a podium out
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: of it and was punted right the way down to
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: thirteenth or something or other. The one rider that a
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: got away with it getting a high pressure penalty and
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: b inherited a podium because of Juanmer getting punted down.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: The order was Pecobannaya. Do you know how they so
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Decadi said that they had a leaking wheel?
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: Rim? Right?
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: Do you know how they test it to prove that
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: he had a leaking wheel?
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Rim?
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: Do you know what the test is?
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: They feel a weely binful of water and they drop
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: the wheel into the weely binful of water and if
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: you see bubbles, guess what.
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: There's a leap.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: There's a hole in the there's a hole in the rim.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: The fact that we're raising protos hype bikes, and then
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: they have to do that as.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: The testing, bring out the wheelibin, get the hose out
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: and fill it full of water. It just seems so
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: low tech compared to what Moto GP is. And they
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: saw the bubbles coming up and went, look see the
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: wheel RIM's got a hole in it, And they went, oh,
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: so it does.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: It's got to crack at it.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: So therefore you don't have a high pressure penalty. Therefore
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: you can keep your podium. Yeah, of all the nine
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: hundred and seventeen ridiculous things that happened on Sunday, we're
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: getting the wheely bit out to decide who's on a podium.
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: What are we doing.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: I can't believe that that's the test for it, that
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: it's so high at the high tech.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: And you know that I've got all the big news
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: for you, including news about wheelibins.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: I'm your man.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Crackhouse did not have a good weekend as this weekend either,
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: So I want to talk about this because Raoul Fernandez
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: getting away with no penalty taking out Joge Martin, then
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: obviously Iyagura getting penalized for taking out Pedro Acosta. What
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: on Earth. I rewatched the role Fernandez move and I
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: was like, I was a bit on the borderline with that.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: I don't necessarily agree with what the stewards decided. I'm
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: not stewards, so that's not fully up to them, but
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: the fact that it was both UH track House Bikes
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: that then had the the what am I trying to say?
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: They had a messed up weekend? But then Martin coming
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: back in with that frustration and taking out on his
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: team bucover Zechi further down the field. Not a good
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: weekend for a prilier.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: The Bazeki thing didn't necessarily surprise me because historically this
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: is a pretty poor track for him, do you know
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: before Sunday where with all the penalties he ended up
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: inheriting fourth, like the least merited fourth place of all time,
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: and like best has been awesome this year, so he
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: was due. It was probably due a bit of a
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: rope race. You know, we never finished better than ninth
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: in a Grand Prix there in all the time he'd
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: been there. It's just not a Bazeki track. He was
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: a bit off the entire weekend ball Yeah, crashed and qualified,
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: Belly made it into Q two Martine. That was his
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: fifth crash of the weekend, and he was really erratic
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: the entire weekend, and you do wonder, like, we love
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: the fact that Jorge Martin tries so hard. Sometimes Jorge
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Martin tries a little bit too hard in that there's
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: that thin line, but sometimes he will go the other
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: side of the line. And so five crashes over the
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: course of the weekend, you do wonder what's going through
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: his head. And even if there was sub talk that
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: one of the crashes on Friday, they're a bit of
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: concussion there, so you know, again motor GP could concussion protocol.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: That's kind of interesting. But five crashes over the course
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: of the weekend, Yeah, he was super fired up when
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: he got back to the pits. Now shoving your own
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: team manager probably not great the other and he was
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: pretty contrite about it afterwards once he'd actually calmed down.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: But the image of the race for me, Masimo Rivela
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: walking down to track house Aprilia during the race and
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: looking at Davide Brivio and giving him the wag of
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: the finger like now, come on, like, we're all in
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: the same team here, what are we doing? I thought
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: that was super interesting for a couple of reasons. It's like,
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: the reason you have a great bike is that we've
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: given you a great bike and David Abrivia and we
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: know you're leaving at the end of the year anyway.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: So there was a bit of it felt like a
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: dad scolding a kid that had been misbehaving. It's like,
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: you better put your head in here, like we don't
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: want to see any more of this. But the subtext
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: to all of this, of course, is that Fernandez is
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: fighting for his career right he doesn't have it. He
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: doesn't have a contract for next year, he doesn't have
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: it often necessarily for next year. Brivio's been a bit
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: of a champion of Fernandez, like he's talking him up
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: a fair bit since he's been in there. And right now,
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: if Ralph Fernandez isn't on the grid for Apriliad, does
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: he get a ride next year? And so probably not.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: So there's a little bit of desperation that's trying to
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: creep in a little bit there, and I thought, you
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: add all those things together, I was astonished that there
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: wasn't a penalty for the Martine incident. The one that
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: amazed me even more Gura got a three second penalty
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: for completely punting a Costra in the last quarter. To
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: my mind, that's you know, if that happens earlier in
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: the race, that's at least one long lap. It might
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: have even been a double long lap. It was a
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: really it was a weird outer character thing for a Gura.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: He's not that sort of ride, and normally it was
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: also just really reckless. I was amazed that he only
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: got a three second penalty for that. To my mind,
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: that should have been you get a long lap at
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: the next race penalty. That was pretty bad. Yeah, weird
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: weekend for them after how amazing Lamon had been like
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: seven days before at a Prillier was kind of nowhere
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: for the whole weekend, weren't.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: They, Which is funny because like historically you'd say this
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: is a Priliers track.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: Think of yeah, their track, Yeah yeah, I mean.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Is celebrating a lap early will always go down in
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: the bus the latter Grand Prix history.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: It's sure, well, oh my god, if anyone should know
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: they grew Spargo's grew up so close to that circuit.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: By the way, I remember Pole used to tell me
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: a couple of times where he said he could he
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: could hear the bikes of the track, like before he
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: was old enough to actually be there racing anything. It's like, oh,
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: it's Friday. Also, I in my like morning recess and
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: I could hear the bikes of the track. They should
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: know that track better than anyone. That was Oh my god, Ol,
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: he's never going to leave that one dawn is he.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: He's never going to live that one down. I don't
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: know if you've had the latest on Peko Vanyaya, but
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: after Monday's test, because Moto GP had an official test
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: at Circuit Barcelona, Catalonia on the Monday, Pego Vanyaya was
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: saying that he felt like something wasn't right in his wrist.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Also after that term one collision. I posted about it
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: yesterday on Fox Motorsport. But that's kind of really interesting
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: in the fact that you know, we often know that
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: skafoids are in trouble with these Moto GP riders and
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: it's something that they can easily break. So have you
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: heard anymore on Peko Vanyaya with that.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, more than that.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, the thing that was a little bit disturbing
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: with him after the race on Sunday was when he
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: said look, you know, a bit like not being mentally
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: ready like Zako. He said he felt a bit dizzy
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: during the race and he wasn't quite there, And that's
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: where you start wondering, how any restarts do we need
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: to have here before we call this off. But it
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: was one of those tests that you know, it was
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: easier to list the riders that were you know, there
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: were more writers missing than actually participating because there were
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: so many guys injured at that point. Didn't really need
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: a test on the Monday. But yeah, the Banyai thing,
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: it's I think he and Dacadi will be glad there's
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: not a back to back this weekend. The fact we've
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: got a week off is probably needed by everybody in
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Motor GP right now. But he was clearly not right
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: during the race. I mean, we talked about Jane Antonio
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: winning the race. He was clearly injured. It was hard
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: to find people that were kind of one hundred percent
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: mentally or physically okay after that race. Because I was
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: reading you might have seen this as well. There was
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: a journalist friend of both of us that was talking
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: about just the demeanor of the riders when they came
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: into do their media debriefs after the two restarts on
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: Sunday and Luca Marini, it was almost like the adrenaline
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: had worn off and he was processing what had happened
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: over the past hour and a half when he was
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: doing his debrief, and he could see he's physically there's
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: a physical reaction, like he's physically shaking with what was
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: going on, remembering that him and banya had stayed with
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: Zako after Zarko got stuck in the back of Banyai's
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: bike waiting for the medicos to come and help. So, yeah,
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: there was a physical toll for a lot of these
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: guys on Sunday, but I think mentally it's one of
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: those you don't just wake up and get over something
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: like that. And even you know Fernandez, he was a
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: guy who was quite early on the scene with the
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: Marquez accident, with the amount of debris that was being
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: thrown through the air, and he was just getting pelted
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: with bits of garb and fiber and god knows what
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: else was coming out of that bike. So he was
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: actually physically sore because he'd just been getting hit by
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: bits of someone's bike that was being shredded through a
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: grass trap. So yeah, man, it was definitely the walking
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: wounded for that test. But the Banya, I think I've
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: heard the same as you that there there is problem,
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: but nothing that's significant enough to probably delay him. I mean,
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: where's the next race, Migello, He'll be there for that
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: because we don't how good to use there.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: But yeah, it was just one of a number of
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: you know, we're.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: What thirty eighth minutes into this podcast and we've scratched
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: like ten percent of the stories that came out of
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: Catalonia because it was just a crazy weekend from starting
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: to finish.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Let's look off track for a minute, let's go to
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: something a bit more positive. So it was announced that
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: KTM and tek Tois have re signed again. There was
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: the rumors that tech Towa we're going to move over
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: to Honda, but they've resigned back with KTM and going
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: to continue with their four writer lineup as they've previously done.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: I think I was interested to see if they were
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: to go to Honda and it be the DOCADI having
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: the most satellite privateer teams, to then go to Honda
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: and have the most satellite private teer teams. I think
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: having that balance and each manufacturer now has that supporting
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: aspect to it. I think I think is much better
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: in my opinion, just to see and they can help
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: with the growth. But then we've got the fact of
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: is this weekend. Is this going to make Vinalees who
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: we know was kind of like their key player, and
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: what they were trying to do is Vinyale's going to
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: be reconsidering everything that he's been doing because he's been
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: out injured for a while and this was his first
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: weekend back. So what's your thoughts there with Vinalas.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a couple of elements to this. I'm a
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: bit like you in that I didn't want to see
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: two manufacturers have six bikes and one manufacturer have two
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: bikes at any time. I think that's not great, but
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: particularly for twenty twenty seven, where you know, let's be honest,
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: it's such a clean sheet of paper, right for twenty
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: twenty seven with these new rules with the eight fifties,
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: more bikes means more data means more progress, right, And
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: if you have Katie and it's got two bikes, they're
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: just clearly going to be so far behind everybody else
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: just in terms of being able to understand these bikes
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: because it's going to take time, and you know you've
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: got to you've got six bikes compared to two. You're
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: going to get to the solution to every problem three
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: times faster because you've got three times of resource. So
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: I think it's good for the balance of the grid
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: that we've got this. You know, it's not super imbalanced.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: I mean, ideally you have everyone having the same number,
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: but the fact that it could have been two manufacturers
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: with six bikes and one manufacturer with two that didn't
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: feel right for me. The really interesting part about this
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: now is that so we know that Tech three are
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: going to be a KTM team for next year, we
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: know the factory KTM team is pretty settled in terms
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: of what they're doing with their riders next year it's
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: going to be Alex Marquez.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: And Fabio to Joan Antonio.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: The knock on effects for all of this with the
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: rider market that you know everything's officially unofficial as we
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: know what that now does in terms of there's a
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: lot of really legit motor GP race winning riders that
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: are now out of contract, and it's like the game
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: of musical chairs, right, there's not that many chairs left
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: in the game at this point, and there's a lot
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: of guys with good credentials and history in this sport
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: that are going to miss out, like Alex Rinz is
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: clearly on the out or with Yamaha.
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: We know that.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: It's really interesting for me to Katie and what do
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: they do now? Because they've got this lineup like Bastigini
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: and Vinals for a satellite team. Sounds amazing right on paper,
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: sounds awesome on papers. You know, two very highly credential guys,
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: multiple Grand Prix winners, very very fast on their day,
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: coming at it from different points of view. Do you
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: just roll out that same line up again next season
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: because it's been problematic. Vinals has been injured for pretty
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: much ten months at this point. Bastiorini is one of
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: the most confusing writers in Moto GP because every now
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: and then he gets, oh, like God, look how good
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: Danaya is, and then he goes missing for six weeks.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: You're not quite sure what you're going to get with him.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: And he kind of.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: Like he kind of is what he is, like old dog,
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: new tricks, all that sort of stuff. He kind of
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: you know what bastidid is. At this point, you'd be
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: surprised if he was anything else. So it's really interesting
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: now for Tech three with Gunteresteiner at the helm there,
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: it's kind of a buyer's market. They can pick and
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: choose now what they want to do because there's a
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: lot of choice for them. And the interesting part for
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: Australian fans in all of this, and I don't know
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: whether this is where you are leading me, but what
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: the hell am going to go there? Anyway? Tech three
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: is one of the teams that has been linked to
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: Center AGS and you know, there's a lot of discussion there.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: There's mutual interest from both sides. The Ages camp is interested,
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: Tech three are interested. To my mind, if you're going
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: to bring a rookie into Motor GP, next year is
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: almost the best year to possibly do it, because you've
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: got bikes that aren't as massively the power disparity between
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: a Motor two bike now and a current day you know,
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: two thousand cc Motor GP machine. You're going to eight fifties.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: The bike's going to be less powerful, there's going to
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: be less reliance on arrow and ride height devices. They're
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: going to be on Perrelli tires, which all the Motor
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: two guys are.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: Very used to riding.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: If you're going to bring a rookie into Motor GP,
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: I would actually argue that next year is almost the
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: best year to do it that there's been for a
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: long long time because the gap between what current Motor
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: GP is and what Motor two is so big. It's
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: no surprise to me that some of these other factories
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: have decided that they're going to bring a.
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: Rookie in next year.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: Hoddes bringing in David a lot, so Tocadie's going to
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: bring in Danny Holgado. It's a good year to bring
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: in fast young guys. So the question I guess with
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: the interest for Australian fans like, is Center ageous their
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: fast young guy, because there's a chance to bring that
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: guy now. Just reminding you by the way that Agis
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: is ahead of the two guys I just mentioned in
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: the championship, but that's by the bye. There's clearly interest
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: there on both sides. It's going to be super interesting.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: I this is not me reporting, This is just this
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: gut feeling sort of adding two and two together here.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: I reckon we might know a bit about Agias's future
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: sooner rather than later. That's just a hunch because of
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: the way the rider market's moving. Now, I'm assuming we're
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: going to get to the Jack bill and use it
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: a sec which we'll cover off at a second. But
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: to my mind this might happen sooner rather than later.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: I was, like you, hoping that Cenner might have been
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: a little bit stronger in to Lordia, like if he
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: got on the podium or something, that would have done
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: absolute wonders for him. But you know, he was never
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: going to keep the stadiums went back to back Grand
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: Prix's won for Grand Prix in.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: The last twelve months.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: I don't think anyone's opinion of Stags went down over
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: the course of the weekend. He just is a genuine
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: front runner. Emoto too, now, that's just what he is.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: And given what I said before, he is twenty twenty
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: seven a good year to bring in a young fast
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: guy to build with this brand new regulation set.
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, probably is.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: I reckon it makes him super employable. I'll be really
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: interested to see what happens with Tech three in the
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: next little while.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: I read a quote and you probably heard it on
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: the broadcast as well, of Alicia Sparger speaking to Jack
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Appleyard and Alisha was sorry. Jack was asking him about
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: the eight fifteenth, the new bike, and the quote from
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Alisha's saying, you know, the probably tires are super grippy
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: and with a little bit less talk at the bottom,
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: you can rush a little bit into the apex. The
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: bike is more than ten kilos lighter and change the
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: direction is super good. So for the writers, they are
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: going to have fun and there's going to be more battles.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Everything you just said about Senna jumping up to MotoGP
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: like one hundred percent nail on the head because the
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: bike is a lot closer to what he is used
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: to than what the current model MENOGP bike is and
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: if there's these changes, if they're really ties which he's
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: coming from in Moto TiO, there's all the tick of
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: the boxes. I think, you know, you hit the nail
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: on the head and it would be good if we
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: could have Cenna on the grid. Because leading me into
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: the point which you just mentioned, you wrote an article
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: for Fox sports dot com dot au Forward slash Motorsport
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: about Jack Miller and his future and all year, you know,
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: we've been talking about how beneficial Jack has been to
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: this project with Yamaha, how for him is not about
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: winning championships. It's about banking data and testing and bringing
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: his knowledge across. But now, from what you've written in
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: the reports that we're hearing is that's not enough. Now
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: it's the fact that Yamaha have signed Ayagura. We believe
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Jorge Martine's there, although there's another rumor coming out that
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: that might have changed. We've got top Rack Rascalioglu, who
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: in himself is already looking forward to next year because
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: once again he's written on Pero he's come from with bikes,
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: like the bike's going to suit him better. Yeah, where
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: does that lead Jack? If Pramaha take your drink there
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: are going to bring up their future writer Ethan Gavera, like,
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: what's your leaders with Jack? Because in your article you're
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: hinting that he's out.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: It sounds like there's two bits of news here. We
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: had both heard similar rumors from similar people that Jack
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: might have been told at herreth that twenty twenty seven
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: was at an option. And look, I mean the Yamaha
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: has been other than somehow fabio quaateurero, somehow doing some
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: magical quaateurero stuff and getting some results out of this.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: Jack's not exactly an outlier, and that he's the only
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: one that's not performing on the Yamaha because nobody else
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: out of the quaturo is performing on a Yamaha shows
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: you a good quaterurero is. But in Jack's situation, We've
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: said this before with Jack in that the benefits of
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: of what Yamaha get out of Jack ARONI going to
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: be realized once Jack isn't there anymore, because Jack's, you know,
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: thirty one years old. He's not twenty one years old anymore.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: It's one of those things that when Yamaha gets good,
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: and they probably will at some point in the future,
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: he'll have his fingerprints on that. He's probably just not
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: going to be there to reap the benefits of it.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: And we've known this now for a couple of years.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: He washed out at KTM. He got the one year
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: deal with Pramak when they went from Ducati to Yamaha
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: because it was he was the last ride assigned for
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty four and it was like the ultimate marriage
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: of convenience, right, they needed a known quantity, Jack had
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: been there before, brand new project. That's all fine, and
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: then they decide to switch to the V four project
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: for twenty twenty six, which made Jack super valuable for
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: this year simply because he's written V fours at other
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: manufacturers before. He's a very very good technical mind these days,
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: super experienced. But these things only have a limited lifespan, right,
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: And you do wonder, for the reasons that I was
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: saying before about his next year, the right time to
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: bring in the fast young guy, because it's a brand
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: new regulations.
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: There was a.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: Report in the Spanish version of motorsport dot Com over
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: the weekend with Herman Garcia Casanova, who's a very very
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: well connected journal with the Spanish writers, that there'll be
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: some sort of performance claus in Guavaro's Motor II contract
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: with Pramac, that he will go up. I would say
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: if he's in a certain position in the championship. He's
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: been on the podium I think three or four out
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: of the six races this year. He's a Motor three
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: champion a couple of years ago.
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: It's clearly very good.
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: It kind of just feels that you wonder if they
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: think it's the right time to bring their fast young
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: guy in, like Honda's doing, like to Catti's doing, like
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: everyone's got that deal with the present, but then with
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: an eye on the future. It feels like every manufacturers
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: now has got that guy like fermin Aldegerre is Decaddi's
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: guy in that category, right, and then you're talking about
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: David Alonso or Hoggado, any of these young guys. It
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: feels like the time to bring people in and you
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: just wonder that, you know, is Jack's It feels like
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: Jack's being squeezed out, not necessarily because of the lack
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: of con tribution to Yamaha, but it feels like if
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: you're going to do the full reset, twenty twenty seven
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: is a year to do it. And so what does
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: that mean for Jack? Does that mean that the motor
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: GP door is probably closed? Look, as I said before
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: the Game of Musical Chairs, there's not many chairs left
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: to sit on at this point, and so you do
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: wonder what that means for him. You also do wonder
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: if there's just a natural endpoint to this. And you know,
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: he said it himself this year. Yes, he's enjoying the
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: developmental side, but man, it's a hard slog where you're
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: turning up and you're you know, he made Q two
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: in Catalunya this weekend.
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: Really really good.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: Effort to get into the last part of qualifying, and
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: then the first time the bikes came out of the
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: last corner, that thing is eleven k's an hour slower
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: in a straight line than every other bike in MotoGP
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: and he just gets annihilated down the strait and all
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: of a sudden he's seventeenth again, and so you can outperform.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: You know, you've got an amazing slipstreaming. He sat by
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: Buzeki and Q two managed to tie himself up into
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: that spot. You could do that for one lap. That's great,
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: but there's nothing to be gained where your machine only
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: goes as fast as it can go, and there's nothing
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: that the rider is doing to necessarily mitigate what the
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: machine's deficiencies are, and through no fault of your road,
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: you just get blown away down the straight and that's
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: the end of it pretty much, and you can't get
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: results out of it. And Jack has said this year
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: like it's just bloody hard to turn up each week
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: and give it your absolute best. But there's a ceiling
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: to what you can do because of the machinery that
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: you're writing, and it's taking someone like Couaateaurero, who is
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: an absolute freak of Varrieta.
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: He's unbelievable Coaturroo.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: What he's doing on that bike this year is kind
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: of just hilarious at this point because it shouldn't be anywhere
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: dear doing what it's doing. But you look at the
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: other guys that are riding the Yamaha's top. Brack is
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: a rookie, but he's a three time World Superbike champion
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: and Alex Runs has one six Grand Prix. So no
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: matter what you think of Alex Rans in twenty twenty six,
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: he's a very very good writer. It has been for
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: a long while, and no one else other than Fabia
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: can ring a lap time out of that thing. So
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: you just wonder whether the jack timers sort of come
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: to its natural conclusion. And then, as I also wrote
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: in the same piece, you may be getting to but
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go there anyway. I do wonder about
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: the composition of.
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: The Motor GP grid.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: And you know, this big in the social space, like
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: what's one of the most common things that Australian fans
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: say about Motor GP. It's the Spanish Italian Championship, right,
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: there's so many Spanish and Italian writers. I think I
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: worked out this fifteen out of the twenty two this year,
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: and it's going to be pretty similar next year, because yes,
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: you might be losing Rinz or perhaps Vignalees or somebody.
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: But Holgado's come again, right, that's going to happen. Guavara's
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: come again, that's going to happen, So he's still going
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: to have that representation. I just wonder with liberty media
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: going forward, We've already got no Americans on the grid,
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: We've already got no British writers on the grid. Do
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: we want a grid of absolutely no native language English
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: language speakers on the grid for a liberty area, for
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: an era, for an American media company that's going to
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: be running Motor GP. Brad Binder is looking super sketchy
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: to stay on the grid too, And we'll give Brad
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: the hontery English speaking South African role as well.
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: In all of this, I.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: Just can't see how the sport goes forward being accused
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: even more of being the Spanish Italian Championship in a
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: liberty media world.
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: I just don't really see that happening.
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: So in a roundabout way, you do wonder if that
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: helps a little bit with the center AGEUS case, because
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: he is the best, fastest young guy who's in, who
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: ticks a lot of the boxes that someone like Liberty
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: might like. I don't think it's the reason that Senner
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: gets to murder GP if he gets there. It's not
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: the sole reason, but it's not nothing. It's going to
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: be a factor if it comes to how do we
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: diversify the grid, how do we get more countries involved?
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, there's this new racid Adelaide
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: next year that could probably use an ambassador, right, because
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: that's going to be a hard sell for a lot
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: of people in the sport.
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: We're moving away.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: From the best or the second best racetrack on the
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: calendar wherever you want to discuss Philip Island and Magello,
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: and as you know from being down there, it's probably
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: the best track in the world with the worst facilities
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: of any track in Motor GP. That's just what it
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: Issillip Island at this point. Unfortunately we've all been there.
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: There's the one toilet block that serves the entire paddic
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: including all of the riders, which is insane to say
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty six anyway, but you do wonder that with
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: Adelaide coming on, Adelaide's going to need to be sold
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: to people in motor GP because it is a controversial change,
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: right because you're losing philipp Island. You go to a
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: street track, having a local rider on the grid for
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: Adelaide in twenty twenty seven seems like a pretty sensible
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: thing for me.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: You've just made so many points. I'm going to backtrack
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: a little bit. I'm going to go to no if
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: you're fine, because I'm going to move through them.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: But good.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: You know you mentioned the Yamaha eleven kilometers down on
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: the front straight. What circuit are we going to next? Magello?
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: Where is the top speed Magello? Like if Yamaha are
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: going to struggle, we know the Barcelona we said it before.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: It's like skating on ice. That was your literal words.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: The fact that like Jack did or the Yamahas did
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: what they did there is phenomenal because they already struggle
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: with rear grip as it is with this new bike.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: So what they were able to achieve and what Fabio
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: is doing, honestly, take your hat off, an incredible, incredible
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: and to think that you know Jack's hanging in there.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: I know he cops a lot of slack on socials
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: and whenever people, you know, we post about him and
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: people will be like, oh, he should get off the
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: grid whatnot. You don't know what's happening behind the scenes
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: and exactly what he's doing. But maybe this is the point.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: And then like you said, Sata ageis he's young, he's
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: up and coming. Yeah, kind of would like him to
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: be a little bit more consistent so far this season,
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: but already we're seeing this whole new center and just
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: in the short time that you know, we've been doing
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: this stuff with Fox and Cenna's been in the World Championship,
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: we've seen him go from strength to strength to strength.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: If that next step is about to happen and he
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: can make that jump and he can make it stick,
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: then I think he is going to be out next
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: Australian champion. And he's got the drive. Like for those
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: who don't know Senna personally, and he doesn't post much
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: on his socials or whatnot, he is like a horse
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: with the blinders on. He is just dedicated to everything
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: that he does, like a little inside goss to the
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: people at home. So Senna lives in Andorra, and I'm
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: here in Barcelona and it's about two hours away. And
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: if I'm ever like, what do you guys up to
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: this weekend, I guarantee you he's at Magello doing a
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: track day, He's at Barcelona doing track day, Valencia doing
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: a track day. The man does not stop training and hustling.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: And I haven't seen someone as intense about it like
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: that in such a long time, Like he's doing whatever
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: he can to get that edge over his riders. Okay,
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: at the moment it might not necessarily be showing on track,
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: but like you said, he's had multiple race wins. Now
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: he's up there in the stands in the championship apart
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: from that insane thing that happened in Austin, similar to
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: the Pedro and Art situation. I mean the fact that
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: that happened, and then this weekend it's a difficult track,
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: it's a tricky track, but he was still in the
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: top ten coming out Sunday. That consistency is there. He
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: just needs to maybe get that to constantly be on
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: the prodium, constantly be on the win. But if that
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: door opening for Moto GP, we need that right in
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: next year because like you said, Adelide is coming, whether
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: people like it or not.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be a tough sell, and having a
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: local on the group will certainly help. Like you mentioned,
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: the relentlessness is something that marks him as being a
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: little bit different maybe to some of the other ossies
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: we see through or just writers generally. The other thing,
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: like you mentioned, the consistency thing. It's funny because consistency
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: is something that drives fans crazy and it drives media
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: people crazy. It doesn't drive the teams and the decision
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: makers as crazy as you might think, simply because it's
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: the old theory, right. You can't make a slow rider fast,
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: you can make a fast rider more consistent, and so
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: you just don't have the speed to start with. It's like, well,
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: that's great that you're consistent and you're finishing fifth all
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: the time. Congratulations. The teams aren't super interested in that.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: They want to see They look at the high points,
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: They look at how these guys win races when they're
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: on their best days, and they will back themselves as
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: developers of talent, because don't forget, when you get to
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: motor GP, you are not the finished article. You are
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: developing the entire time you were in there, and if
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: your starting point on your best days is good enough
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: to win Grand Prix and good enough to be a
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: front runner, these teams will back themselves and say, will
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: we back our know how and managerial instinct and experience
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: in all of this that we will flatten out the
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: peaks and troughs, and then your ceiling becomes higher than
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: the guy who's just finishing fourth every single week. So
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: they'll look at the high points for the fast guys.
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: They're not going to bring center ageous in and go, jeez,
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: I hope you wish he was a bit quicker.
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: They're not going to.
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: Say that you can't make a sligh right of fast,
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: you just can't do it. What they will do is
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: he will just become as he becomes more grown up
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: and mature and experience in the World Championship, the gap
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: between his best and his worst days becomes much thinner.
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: And they're the guys that end up succeeding the guys
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: who were just there all the time. And so I
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: mentioned someone like Bastiarditi before on his day and AA
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: Bastianini has made everyone in Motor GP look absolutely silly.
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: Multiple times. We saw it when he was at Grassini.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: We saw it was when he was with the Factory
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: du Catti team. He's the epitome of the guy who's
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: got the high highs and the low lows because he
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: will go six Grand Prix and you won't notice he's there,
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: and then he'll be on the podium and you know,
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: when you're twenty night whatever he is years old, you're
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: not changing in a Bastidi when you're twenty year old
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: setter ag years Yeah, that can be developed like BASTIARDEDI
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: is who he is. I'm not just picking on him.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: He's just an example of a rider, right, but someone
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: like AGAs these teams will look at the high points
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: and go, yeah, this guy's pretty damn good. The fact
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: that he takes a whole bunch of other boxes is helpful,
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: but it's not going to be what gets him in there.
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: I will be pretty surprised if we don't see him
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: on a motor GP bike in the next two years
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: and hopefully in the next one.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's what we're hoping for, right. We
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: want more Aussies up and coming. We want to have
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: an array of OSSI's representing us on the world stage.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: Speaking of the world stage, just to touch briefly on it,
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: because this is as chaotic as catalogia. This episode Jack Miller,
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: Jack Miller is going to be doing Suzuka eight Hour
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: once again. It was also noted that Joan Zako was
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: which maybe depending on how the injuries go with his
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: knee on that, but I thought that was quite interesting,
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: the fact that it was announced that Jack's going to
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: do suzukah eight hour for Yamaha, but then we're also
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: hearing the rumors that he's being let go from Yamaha
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: at the same time. Maybe it's like a parting gift
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: of thank you so much for your help, please come
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: and do this for us again.
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: I also think as one of those ones that when
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: the phone rigs and Yamaha asks you to do the
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: eight hours, is kind of one answer, isn't he don't
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: say no? Yeah, I think you just say sure, I'll
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: do that, and look if it's one of those things
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: that I mean.
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: He'll go.
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: There as a very very strong chance of winning at
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: the Cape second last year. Obviously pretty good feather in
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: your cap if you win the Suzuka eight hours for
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: a Japanese Bannu factor that gets you a whole bunch
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: of cutos in a market, as we know, is crazy
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: for it. So yeah, I mean there's one of those.
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: There's absolutely nothing to lose for Jack for doing it,
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: so what.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: Not exactly Now, we kind of briefly touched on Center.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: I mentioned his results there Moto GP. I feel like
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: we've kind of gone through a lot of the major
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: talking places. Let's just quickly touch on Joel because those
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: who have hung with us, thank you. This has been
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: a long one Jolie, tricky weekend for him. P eighteen.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: When I last spoke to him in Lemon, it was,
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm feeling really good. I'm feeling really comfortable.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: I'm starting to get the bike and understanding the Honda,
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: and now that we're back at the euro tracks, this
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: is where I'm going to be strong and succeed. But
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: it's tricky for him at the moment, tricky for him
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: on that m lav machine.
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: Well, and I think the thing with Moto three this
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: year is that you only have to be a little
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: bit off and not even a lot, and you go
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: from being second road to outside of the points like
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: it's super competitive, Like Killez is just absolutely destroying everybody
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: he would win the championship. You could throw a blanket
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: over whoever the next twelve best riders are. And so
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: you only have to be a little bit off in
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: Motor three right now, and you go from fighting for
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: decent points to fighting like hell to get one point.
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: There's not much between probably eighty percent of the grid
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: right now. There's a clear stand there like Killez is.
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: The next guy's pretty clear at this point the way
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: he's been.
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: Racing this year.
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: But it's so tight in that next lot that Joel's
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: just in that group that it's a big group that
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: you can either be in the frontal or very easily
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: at the back of. And we saw that in Catalunya,
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: where it looked promising for a bit and then he
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: just started sliding down the timing tower and it was
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: just one of those ones where if you hear him,
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: you just you're thankful of the week off. You go
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: to Magelly, you've reset, not a great one, but also
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: not some sort of sign of anything super alarming either.
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: I don't think.
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: No, it's just annoying that there's no more points in
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: the bag, you know, like you see saying consistency is
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: key and sometime even if you are just scoring, you're
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: in like fourteenth fifteenth position, was pouring those last few points,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: you're still banking that for the championship, right, So it's
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: frustrating there. But I mean, he every time we've spoken
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: to him, he's really excited for the challenge. He's looking
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: at everything with the glass half full mentality, as you
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: should be doing in that situation. So with that being said,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: like you've mentioned before, we get a weekend off yay,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: and then Modoo heads to Magello. Now Mark Mark Heads
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: is meant to be returning from Magello. From what I'm hearing,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: have you heard any little more updates on the Mark.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: Situation, It sounds like he's going to be there and
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: Mark being Mark, because Mark never does anything without a purpose.
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  Speaker 3: It's all very very calculated. Few little social media videos
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  Speaker 3: of him doing a few exercises with that right arm
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  Speaker 3: looking like, oh yeah, I'm good to go. Now, whether
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  Speaker 3: he's or not, who knows, But he does like using
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  Speaker 3: you social media to stir up a bit of a horde.
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  Speaker 3: It's nest And when I saw that stuff coming out,
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  Speaker 3: I'm thinking, yeah, he's feeling pretty punchy. I think ye'll
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  Speaker 3: want to get straight back into it. The thing with
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  Speaker 3: it like for him the championship. I know he's a
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  Speaker 3: million miles off the championship lead. It's so chaotic right
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  Speaker 3: now in the championship. Think how just ordinary Aprillia was
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: in that cattalo in your weekend. There's still sixteen rounds
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  Speaker 3: to go, and so there's a lot of points still available,
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  Speaker 3: and right now it's like, does anyone actually want to
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  Speaker 3: win the World Championship right now? That's kind of what
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: it feels like. So Mark will be pretty keen to
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: get back. And the curious thing for me is he
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: might be back, but how much what percentage of Mark
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: will he be? Will he be eighty percent? Mark, will
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: he be seventy five percent? I don't know how soon
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  Speaker 3: he can get back up to speak, because we've got
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  Speaker 3: another double header, of course, because we go Migello and
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  Speaker 3: then Hungary directly after that. So you want to get
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: back and start scoring some decent points because the first
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: six races have been pretty forgettable for him, and of
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: course one in Valentino's backyard last year, didn't he.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: That was something I'll never forget of seeing Dave data
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: dotsy on the grid where everybody was booing Mark and
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: you could hear it echoing through the Toskin Hills, and
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: he's pointing to the shirt, going he's one of us.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: He's wearing the red. He's the same as us. Man
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: will they will never live down Valentino Rossie, Mark Mankers
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  Speaker 2: the clash.
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  Speaker 3: It will never happen. I think it's going to take
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  Speaker 3: more than Davidaeta telling the fairs to behave themselves, to
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: a forgive and forget.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think that's happening.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think it's happening either. But like we said,
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  Speaker 2: we've got one weekend off and then we're going to
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: be back for Moto GP at Migello, the place where
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: the bikes hit the top speed. The sound is incredible,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: the fends are even more insane, and it's one of
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: the highlights of the year. So joy your weekend off.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: We know Formula one is back this weekend, but it's
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: a Monday morning race, so you guys get a little
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: bit of sleep and then we can prepare for Moto
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: GP in Magello. But I think that pretty much wraps
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: up at Barcelona. Catalan grom Prix review from the Chaotic
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  Speaker 2: Weekend that it was everything that we mentioned that Matt's written.
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