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Russia’s Internal Battlefield, Odessa’s Isolation, and the Fauci Immunity Question · International Flavor: Where the Truth Tastes Better

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  Hello, good morning.
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  Welcome.
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  This is Samuel Trapp.
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  This is also International Flavor.
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  or Samuel t at internationalflavor.com.
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  But get to them eventually.
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  So on the email topics, but especially the
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  ones live at damradio.com.
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  I always forget to talk.
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  I always forget to look at them.
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  But Samuel T at International Flavor is a
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  good address.
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  You can send stuff to me.
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  I've had a very busy weekend.
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  Didn't get anything done that I wanted to
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  get done.
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  But personal issues, you know, the things you
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  like to do around the house that type
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  of crap.
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  I did nothing.
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  However, I did do a substantial amount of
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  work on a couple of things that we're
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  working on, generally on the civic outlaws.
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  And we'll get to that and kind of
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  some of the things I'm going to cover
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  today are a little bit related.
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  I'm going to start with the international because
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  I like that.
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  And we're going to continue and talk about
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  it.
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  But I mean, I can't go on without
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  talking about Fauci and the joke of what
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  happened in that hearing.
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  I can't not discuss the Eighth Circuit opinion.
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  Well, the refusal to review the Eighth Circuit
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  opinion on voting that's come up.
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  So we may mix up the whole week
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  into a little bit of a hodgepodge of
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  international things that I like.
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  Well, I also like the civic outlaw stuff
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  or I wouldn't be doing it.
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  Something kind of comical occurred over the weekend
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  as well on some of the responses.
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  So I don't know if I should outline
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  it.
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  But it has to do with discovery and
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  disputes.
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  And I sent out a total of I
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  don't know, sunshine requests to every single sheriff,
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  sheriff's office in the state of Missouri, sunshine
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  requests to each county in Missouri, and then
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  every city with a population greater than 7500.
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  And I'm probably going to go further on
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  that in trying to get information.
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  And it's kind of funny to me, the
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  approaches taken by some regulators, you know, remember
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  the Stephen King book, the regulators, it's as
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  he's, he's, you wonder if he's got similar
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  thoughts, because he writes about him in the
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  way he does, the way that people regulators,
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  I, I've, I don't dislike, govern employees, just
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  so you know, I distrust them.
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  I believe they are subject to things that
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  other people are not, I believe they have
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  this comical belief that they, oh, geez, we
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  make so much less than everybody else.
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  And so number one, if you don't want
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  to be there, don't stay there.
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  If you think you're not making enough money.
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  Number two, it's just as challenging to do
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  your work every day, in a real job,
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  where you're not going to be able to
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  stay for life and rarely get fired because
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  of the protections that you have as a,
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  as a government worker that you don't have
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  is as a state of Missouri, dude.
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  And you don't get this power.
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  Generally, the people in the power can be
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  dealt with the people that abuse their power
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  on the corporate side can be dealt with
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  harder to do against the people in the,
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  in the power structures of the world.
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  And so most Americans understand this and they
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  don't like it.
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  And it's hard to do anything about it,
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  because you don't always win.
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  And that's what the representation of that Eighth
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  Circuit case, which I'll go through on the
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  election part is, is because even if you're
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  right, this courts have a way of saying,
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  wrong court, and you can never get to
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  the right court because but they never tell
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  you which one is the right court.
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  They just say, not this court, we refuse
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  to hear it.
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  But we're not saying you're wrong.
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  And that's generally the Supreme Court of the
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  United States with literally 95% of the
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  cases that are presented to it.
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  Nah, we're not interested.
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  And so the appellate process is really an
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  exercise in avoiding responsibility to declare anything, to
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  rule upon anything.
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  That's what it it's not like an automatic
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  right of appeal.
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  The right of appeal depends on whether the
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  court is going to hear it or not,
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  or they're going to come up with some
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  comical and well worded way to keep it
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  out of to keep it out of their
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  court.
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  So they don't have to make a decision
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  they can wipe their hands.
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  At least we didn't have to do that
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  one, you know, because we don't want anything.
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  They prefer the the lack of clarity.
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  Anyway, that's part of where we're going to
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  go today.
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  But I also wanted today there's been a
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  lot of news and I want to talk
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  about the national battlefield in Russia, the internal
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  battlefield that's going on over there.
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  They're set for elections as well, just like
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  we are.
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  I want to talk about the attack.
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  Another attack on wild berries, a third large
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  regional regional center, you know, logistic center
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  was taken out.
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  Wild berries occurred during a massive overnight drone
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  strike on August one and two.
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  The videos are wow.
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  And this is this is what why people
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  claim that Ukraine is winning.
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  I think this reflects more and more the
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  way that Ukraine is going to lose.
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  And they are they are losing now.
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  That's they're they're losing.
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  They've been losing for four years.
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  Well, longer than that.
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  The interview with the as of creator, the
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  as of brigade creator by Laura Loomer is
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  also on today's topic list because that guy
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  and well, Loomer, too.
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  And she's the problem is, is Loomer can't.
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  Not only did she not interview the guy,
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  she's changed her opinion on Ukraine over the
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  years.
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  And it came now it's her coming out
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  party.
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  Basically, she's over went to Kiev and got
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  an interview with the Z-Man.
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  She got an interview with Bilecki.
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  She got an interview with Marco Rubio, not
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  in Kiev, but she got a she's had
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  some interesting interviews of late with some people.
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  And it's funny because she is taking she's
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  she might as well have a show like
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  mine.
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  If all you want to do is get
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  on in a pine about things and you
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  don't interview people, you might as well do
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  that.
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  But if you're going to interview somebody, ask
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  them questions and let them speak.
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  Instead, she delivers these long winded.
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  Oh, I don't know what you call it.
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  Horrifying discussions that she puts out this political
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  propaganda nonsense in the form of a question.
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  And then at the end of it says,
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  What do you think, you know, and she
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  did that in virtually everyone of what she
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  did.
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  But let's get first to the wild berries
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  attack.
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  And I've got some news that I want
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  to cover as well.
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  But the wild berries one was a big
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  attack.
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  And so everybody's talking about it.
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  And should it there was a restaurant bombing
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  also inside of Moscow where a lady with
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  a basically a fragmentation bomb strapped to her
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  when there's some question as to whether she
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  really knew that she was going to be
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  dying to or whether she was just delivering
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  the backpack or whatever it was.
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  And she, you know, got paid to deliver
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  the backpack and then the backpack didn't get
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  delivered because a security restaurant kind of security
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  door man stopped her and wouldn't let her
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  go in.
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  And it blew up and killed the both
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  of them.
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  And but it could have been far worse.
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  But the speculation is that she didn't know
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  either that she was going to either what
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  she was delivering that she was going to
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  die.
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  There's been so much discussion over this that
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  it's just completely unclear what they're doing.
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  However, the guy being attacked was the the
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  chief of allegedly was the chief of the
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  air command responsible for droning airstrikes, you know,
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  all that stuff inside of Ukraine.
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  And he was turning 55.
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  And there's signs of his 55th birthday inside
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  the restaurant, there were discussions that maybe it
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  was a wedding party of some sort.
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  But then later, they came out and said
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  that this air commander, it was his, it
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  was his birthday, recently, and the signs inside
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  had for his birthday.
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  So they presumption is he was having a
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  birthday party, and there were going to be
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  plenty of famous people.
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  The the part from the, from the Kiev
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  assassins is, we can get you anywhere you
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  are, is what they're trying to display here.
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  They've, they've had assassination attempts on others, they've
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  killed some generals, they've blown up cars, they,
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  these guys are terrorists in what they are
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  doing, and, and how they, they don't care
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  about collateral damage or civil.
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  Well, that's okay, you took them out.
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  This is how the Israelis think.
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  And this is how the world is going.
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  This is how the US is thinking, you
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  know, you just blow up all of Iran.
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  And you don't have to worry about civilian
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  casualties or people if you believe that they're
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  being overpowered by their own government, and they
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  want to change it, blowing them up, and
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  blowing all of their stuff up, isn't going
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  to help you, it's going to solidify the
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  current regime.
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  If you don't, if these elections in Russia
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  are going to be important.
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  They're the ones that are coming up in
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  September, and I'm going to be watching them
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  closely.
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  But the, the what is talking about in
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  the political channels is, and then what they're
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  doing to wild berries.
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  They're just they killed seven more logistics workers,
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  fork truck drivers, you know, this is what
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  the hell are we doing?
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  You know, Ukraine is out there blowing these
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  people up, because they sometimes sell electronic parts
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  and, you know, camouflage gear, so you can
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  go hunting, therefore, you know, like, it would
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  be like claiming Amazon is a military logistics
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  here in the United States, let's blow them
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  up.
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  That's so the attack on Amazon isn't designed
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  to take out military infrastructure, it's designed to
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  terrorize the common public.
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  And so the wild berries thing is a
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  is a freaking big deal.
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  And now they've taken out a third logistics
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  hub.
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  And on top of that, they took the
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  founder and put her on the meter toward
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  its list.
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  Now she's on the list, they get to
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  kill her, they want to kill this woman
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  who created inside of Russia wild berries, the
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  Amazon equivalent, basically.
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  And it's a huge business.
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  And she's the creator and founder.
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  And now she's on a kill list in
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  Ukraine.
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  Because somebody show and what they're showing on
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  the internet is real crap.
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  They put these little Oh, gee, here's a
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  walkie talkie.
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  Oh, gee, here's a drone.
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  You can buy a drone on there.
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  What?
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  I mean, Russia's blowing up the same sorts
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  of things inside of Ukraine.
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  Now, you know, they're doing it too.
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  They're retaliating in kind.
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  And they're taken out.
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  I forget what it's called poached something something
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  male.
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  And it's interesting.
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  So the latest wild berries incident was massive.
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  And it was the air defense had intercepted
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  635 Ukrainian drones across 16 regions.
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  Two civilians were killed in angles residential and
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  infrastructure sites have been damaged.
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  And debris strikes caused a fire at a
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  wild berries logistics facility in Samara.
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  And wild berries said it redirected shipments to
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  other facilities.
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  And I'm telling you, this just strikes causing
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  a fire at a wild berries that was
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  no fire that that was enormous.
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  It was explosions and the attack in the
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  context with the earlier wild berries, seven workers
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  killed in Tombo drone struck near emergency exits
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  as employees were attempting to evacuate.
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  Russians said the drones contain metal ball bearings
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  intended to maximize casualties.
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  That's why you put the little fragmentation BBs
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  in there.
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  And then another one in Electra stalls.
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  So now they have three wild berries.
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  And in Russia, they all talk about shoddy
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  key a shot is a is a ball
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  basically around ball and shoddy key means the
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  little metal ball bearings, you know, that they're
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  they're taking their pellets, small pellets, and they're
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  steel ball bearings that perform fragmentation around it
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  in the restaurant.
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  So the confirmed parts about the restaurant is
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  that that occurred at 7.55pm on August
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  the first, the restaurant was on Kudrinskaya Square
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  in Moscow, and a woman attempted to enter
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  carrying an improvised explosive device.
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  And a security guard stopped her from entering
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  the main premises.
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  She may have been in the vestibule there
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  and the device exploded near the F entrance.
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  The woman the guard and one restaurant patron
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  were killed and 21 people were injured.
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  But the guards action prevented the bomber from
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  reaching the crowded space, which is important.
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  You know, he appeared to have recognized the
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  danger challenged her and died preventing her from
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  substantially greater casualty creation.
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  The senior Russian naval commander was the intended
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  target allegedly.
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  Now, that's a provisional, you know, there's no
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  not been any official statement regarding that, or
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  anything other than speculation from allegedly people in
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  the know a person close to the source.
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  And so suddenly, I'm CNN, a person close
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  to the president said, you know, so at
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  present, the national anti Russian National Anti Terrorist
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  Committee publicly described the bomber, the casualties, the
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  investigation, but haven't said anything about the identity
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  of the target.
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  You know, so Russian programs have been reporting
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  that investigators are examining whether the bombing was
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  intended to kill the senior naval officer and
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  whether Ukrainian intelligence was involved in that allegation
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  is under investigation, but quite likely, especially with
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  what they're, they've been doing so far.
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  Now, Rubio said in his ridiculous interview, and
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  this is this is idiotic, by the way,
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  the guy, the guy gets more and more
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  neocon the more I see him remember when
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  I said I reserve judgment way back then,
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  because he was a neocon.
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  And exactly what he was goes way, way
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  back to that guy is Lindsey Graham ite,
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  in my opinion, all he cares about is
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  the deep state and creating this stuff.
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  Now he's taken out US Agency for International
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  Development, consolidated all that propaganda arms underneath the
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  State Department proper, and where he gets to
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  control it all.
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  And so if somebody is funding a Ukrainian
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  propaganda radio station, it's directly from the State
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  Department, it's no longer from calling it an
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  NGO.
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  And the funding of the NGO will come
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  straight from the State Department, which means the
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  government will be funding it, and it's occurring.
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  It'd be interesting to have sunshine requests regarding
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  that, that they all fight.
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  It's pretty funny, because now the fight is
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  we don't have to provide anything in or
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  we're not going to and then you start
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  a fight that gives them seven months of
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  going through the fight to not answer is
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  what is happening and they don't answer and
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  until they're furl forced and even then they
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  make it up or they have come up
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  with a way to what do you call
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  it propagandize the response to something different, they'll
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  finally figure out how what they can redact
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  and put out and start to fight all
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  over again.
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  That's how it works.
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  And so these are not the good guys,
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  you know, they like to call everybody else
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  criminals, and then they twist everything as much
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  as they can, but they're not the criminals.
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  Remember, they're the good guys.
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  So Rubio has said in his thing that
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  Ukraine's ability to strike deep in Russia means
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  the war is being felt.
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  And so he's jumped on this bandwagon.
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  Well, the war is being felt by the
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  Russian population.
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  So that's okay.
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  And he suggested this new dynamic is going
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  to create an opening for negotiations.
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  The Alaska documents had settled something and Trump
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  was going to force it on Zelensky.
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  It was reasonable.
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  Trump was all about it.
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  Rubio and Vance were positive that there was
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  something going to be done based upon the
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  discussions in Alaska in August of last year.
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  Okay.
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  Now here we are in August of this
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  year and Rubio's saying that there is...
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  And everybody's saying that Trump has now been
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  pushed away from what came away as reasonable
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  in Anchorage last year.
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  He's the only guy that has a relationship
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  that they could discuss with Putin, that Putin
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  was straight up in what it is, but
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  the neocons pushed back, the Lindsey Grahams pushed
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  back over the last year and have convinced
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  him where it is.
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  This is why Rubio is all over the
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  TV now and J.D. Vance, the alleged
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  successor, even the named successor, because Trump actually
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  said he believes that the natural successor for
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  him is his vice president, J.D. Vance.
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  So Vance has disappeared.
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  You don't see him anywhere anymore, but you
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  see Rubio all over the place talking war,
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  more war, more war, and that's what he
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  is doing.
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  This is what is happening.
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  Rubio's gonna be...
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  He's being pushed as the next president.
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  Period.
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  End of statement.
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  That's the guy who's gonna be pumped up
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  and thrown out to the rest of us
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  as the answer to all the problems.
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  The neocon, the neocon thinking, the globalist thinking,
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  and the...
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  What do you want to call it?
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  The deep state thinking all will back Marco
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  Rubio.
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  Why?
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  Because war makes a lot of people a
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  lot of money, and that's part of the
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  things I want to get to with...
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  So the interview comes out by Laura Loomer.
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  Her interview style, really, it sucks, and there's
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  no questions, but Rubio's saying that the ability
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  to strike means the war is being felt
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  by the Russian population, and that this is
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  gonna create an opening for negotiations.
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  You've had an opening for negotiations, you moron.
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  It's been going on for a while.
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  Russia has said, we're not gonna do it
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  based on a ceasefire, you did the same
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  thing when they talked to that Beletsky clown.
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  They did the exact same thing.
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  So the reasoning, the trouble is, is that
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  the reasoning of these people contains major assumptions
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  that are not correct.
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  That suffering imposed on the Russian civilian population
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  is gonna create pressure against Putin, rather than
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  pressure for retaliation.
• 20:53
  Pressure on Putin?
• 20:54
  Forget it.
• 20:55
  It's not gonna matter.
• 20:56
  They're not pressuring Putin.
• 20:59
  They want him to escalate.
• 21:03
  They want him to do more and faster
• 21:06
  and retaliate with large strikes, and they are
• 21:10
  doing that.
• 21:12
  Kiev is probably gonna...
• 21:16
  I foresee the loss of Odessa.
• 21:20
  That's what I see.
• 21:25
  I believe.
• 21:28
  And Ukraine has already lost Crimea.
• 21:30
  They already lost all of the eastern edge
• 21:33
  of the section that goes up in there
• 21:35
  from Zaporizhia, that there's a large inland river
• 21:41
  that goes up through Zaporizhia and Crimea.
• 21:46
  Large shipping, large ports up that way, but
• 21:49
  Odessa is the crown jewel, and has been
• 21:51
  for a while.
• 21:52
  And England put a butt-ton of money
• 21:55
  in there over the last 15 years.
• 21:58
  And the Odessa...
• 21:59
  I remember me talking last week about the
• 22:01
  guy called Kolobok and the gingerbread dude.
• 22:05
  He is talking about...
• 22:08
  I watched another one on him, and he's
• 22:10
  got these videos.
• 22:11
  He's got some contacts over there, but he's
• 22:14
  not there anymore, and he says they have
• 22:15
  to walk around and record everything quietly.
• 22:19
  And so Rubio has misunderstood, once again, the
• 22:25
  Russian political psychology.
• 22:27
  He just doesn't get it, and nobody does.
• 22:30
  And Lumer thinks that...
• 22:31
  Lumer and her asking her questions...
• 22:34
  Jesus, I'm jumping around a little bit.
• 22:36
  Let me get to that in its natural
• 22:38
  time and her asking a question.
• 22:40
  She isn't very well organized, asking her questions.
• 22:45
  And if she really believes this stuff...
• 22:48
  So she's changed her mind.
• 22:49
  The impact came out that she used to
• 22:51
  be anti-Ukraine, and now she's pro-Ukraine.
• 22:56
  She went over and experienced an airstrike.
• 22:59
  So the airstrike changed her, and now she's
• 23:02
  all about Ukraine.
• 23:03
  So now they're inviting her over to interview
• 23:05
  and talk about...
• 23:06
  Sorry that I was a Putin puppet, and
• 23:09
  now I'm not.
• 23:11
  Now I'm a green goblin puppet, and a
• 23:14
  Marco Rubio puppet.
• 23:15
  They'll help me get people so my channel
• 23:19
  grows, so therefore I'm their puppet.
• 23:22
  Putin's not been helping me all that much,
• 23:24
  because YouTube blocks you if you say anything
• 23:27
  positive about Putin or Russia in general.
• 23:30
  You get blocked.
• 23:34
  A little bit of personal experience from my
• 23:38
  end.
• 23:38
  They block you if you say anything even
• 23:41
  remotely positive about Russia.
• 23:44
  You're throttled all the way down to the
• 23:47
  zeroes.
• 23:47
  It's pretty funny.
• 23:52
  Sorry, getting me some coffee.
• 23:55
  So Rubio misunderstood the psychology completely.
• 23:59
  The attacks presented in Russia, they're not evidence
• 24:04
  that Moscow should withdraw or negotiate further.
• 24:08
  It's evidence that they're doing the right thing.
• 24:13
  Sometimes doing the right thing is really tough,
• 24:16
  and people don't like it, and it causes
• 24:19
  them personal loss and pain.
• 24:21
  The Russians are all about that.
• 24:23
  This is a proof of the long-standing
• 24:27
  claims that the battlefield is not limited to
• 24:31
  Donbass.
• 24:31
  It's not limited to Russia versus Ukraine.
• 24:34
  It's Russia versus the collective West.
• 24:37
  Russian civilians in Russia are being deliberately targeted.
• 24:42
  Civilian infrastructure is being targeted.
• 24:45
  Ukraine is operating as an instrument of a
• 24:48
  wider Western war against Russia and China, and
• 24:53
  when you look at the questions of Loomer,
• 24:55
  especially Ted Pilecki guy, you'll see that.
• 24:59
  Defeat of Russia wouldn't produce peace, but national
• 25:04
  dismemberment, terrorism, and continued attacks inside of Russia,
• 25:08
  and Russians know this.
• 25:10
  If they give up now, the West is
• 25:13
  going to keep on coming.
• 25:15
  Everybody wants to claim falsely that Russia wants
• 25:18
  to take over Europe.
• 25:19
  That's a bunch of crap.
• 25:20
  There's zero evidence of that, and so that
• 25:23
  is how they're allegedly selling it to the
• 25:26
  rest of the planet, that Russia's doing that.
• 25:28
  But the opposite is actually true.
• 25:32
  Who's been the aggressor since the fall of
• 25:34
  the Soviet Union?
• 25:35
  What organization, what people, where did the aggression
• 25:38
  come from?
• 25:40
  You may not like the answer, but it's
• 25:42
  true.
• 25:42
  The aggression came from NATO, came from the
• 25:45
  United States, came from the collective West, pushing
• 25:48
  eastward in an effort to defeat Russia and
• 25:52
  keep unipolarity, hegemony of the United States as
• 25:57
  the only superpower, and that war is being
• 26:02
  lost.
• 26:04
  Military mobilization and internal security inside of Russia
• 26:08
  must intensify, and that's what their people are
• 26:11
  talking about.
• 26:12
  They're not talking about capitulation.
• 26:14
  They're not talking about, oh gee, we're having
• 26:18
  losses inside our country, better give up.
• 26:21
  Nope, they're going, come on, do more, attack
• 26:25
  harder.
• 26:26
  Sorry, we got to go.
• 26:28
  We've been through this before, hundreds of years,
• 26:31
  many, many times.
• 26:32
  We've been through it.
• 26:33
  Let's keep on trucking, and they are.
• 26:35
  So the Solovyov group that I like to
• 26:38
  watch on Sunday nights, of course I watched
• 26:39
  it last night, and when he said you
• 26:42
  are not observers, remember that, that all these
• 26:45
  people aren't observers, they are pissed off about
• 26:47
  what is going on, and they're trying to
• 26:49
  politically, media-centered, they're trying to call for
• 26:55
  changes from special operation mentality to a whole
• 26:59
  war society mentality.
• 27:02
  We need to understand that the military fights
• 27:05
  at the front, the industry fights also through
• 27:09
  production, transportation and logistics are now military necessities,
• 27:14
  and civilians have to be conscious of sabotage,
• 27:17
  recruitment, intelligence operations, and terrorism.
• 27:20
  If there was ever a war on American
• 27:23
  soil, let's say that all the Red Dawn
• 27:27
  type of things occurred, and suddenly there's war
• 27:29
  on the American soil.
• 27:31
  Well, it's going to be the entire country
• 27:38
  fighting back.
• 27:40
  You think the entire U.S. wouldn't fight
• 27:43
  back?
• 27:43
  They would, of course they would.
• 27:45
  And all of us, collectively, everybody would do
• 27:51
  it, and everything would be toward what they
• 27:55
  were doing in World War II, you know,
• 27:56
  women in the factories, remember that, whether you
• 28:00
  believe it or not, women's baseball, the league
• 28:03
  of their own, you know, all of that
• 28:05
  stuff.
• 28:06
  But industry is fighting, transportation is fighting, civilians
• 28:09
  conscious of sabotage, recruitment, intelligence operations, and terrorism,
• 28:15
  everybody being careful.
• 28:17
  Economic policy measured by wartime effectiveness is the
• 28:21
  big topic in Russia right now, is economic
• 28:23
  policies.
• 28:25
  Government incompetence is more serious because it directly
• 28:29
  affects people's survival.
• 28:32
  So, historically, attacks perceived as a foreign assault
• 28:36
  on a civilian frequently produce national consolidation, demand
• 28:40
  for retaliation, and greater tolerance of security measures,
• 28:44
  you know, inside the country.
• 28:47
  Not, oh, gee, let's quit.
• 28:51
  You know, Ukraine's too strong for us with
• 28:53
  Western backing.
• 28:54
  That is not what's going on.
• 28:56
  So, the public already believes the conflict threatens
• 29:00
  their state existence anyway.
• 29:02
  So, they're going to increase, not decrease.
• 29:09
  Rubio's theory may be strategically backward, and I
• 29:13
  believe it is.
• 29:14
  Ukraine attacks impose real material costs upon the
• 29:17
  Russians while strengthening the Kremlin's political argument that
• 29:21
  Russia can't settle for an unstable ceasefire that
• 29:25
  leaves Ukraine capable of future long-range attacks.
• 29:28
  They've got to finish that.
• 29:30
  And that's going to be different for the
• 29:31
  whole world because it's a drone world now.
• 29:34
  So, let's talk a little bit about the
• 29:36
  Black Sea blockade that's emerging.
• 29:38
  Russia is intensifying attacks in Odessa and, you
• 29:45
  know, the region's military logistics and maritime infrastructure,
• 29:51
  all the big loading ports and the cranes
• 29:53
  and all that stuff.
• 29:54
  Russian Defense Ministry recently reported strikes on the
• 29:58
  Odessa port infrastructure used to unload and store
• 30:01
  military cargo, fuel and lubricants, logistics facilities, a
• 30:06
  Neptune 2 coastal military battery.
• 30:09
  You know, they were making missiles.
• 30:11
  And two commercial vessels, Moscow alleged, were transporting
• 30:15
  supplies for Ukrainian forces.
• 30:17
  So, it doesn't necessarily amount to a formally
• 30:20
  declared legal blockade, but more precise term is
• 30:23
  operational de facto maritime interdiction.
• 30:29
  Who's going to insure a boat headed to
• 30:32
  Ukraine if it's going through the Black Sea
• 30:36
  port to get to there?
• 30:37
  Who's going to insure it?
• 30:38
  It's the same discussion about, what do you
• 30:44
  call it, Iran, Straits of Hormuz.
• 30:50
  It's who's going to insure them if nobody's
• 30:52
  going to insure them.
• 30:53
  If they don't insure you, you can't go.
• 30:55
  Virtually, the traffic is down to zero.
• 31:00
  So, it's not doing well, even though there's
• 31:03
  no legal formal blockade that's been declared.
• 31:07
  But the Russian objective appears to be making
• 31:10
  the Odessa, Chornomorsk and Chorni or the Yuzhny
• 31:16
  port system increasingly unusable for weapons deliveries, for
• 31:21
  fuel imports, for drone operations, for export revenue,
• 31:26
  military logistics, and possibly the presence of foreign
• 31:29
  linked, you know, British shipping for grain and
• 31:33
  for stuff like that.
• 31:35
  So, the strategic question is whether Russia too,
• 31:39
  which I believe this is the case, is
• 31:41
  transitioning from striking individual Ukrainian port targets to
• 31:46
  establishing effective control over Ukraine's entire access to
• 31:51
  the Black Sea coast.
• 31:53
  That's what I believe is happening.
• 31:55
  And so, Putin's broader warning about Ukraine potentially
• 31:58
  losing access to the sea isn't a joke.
• 32:02
  Odessa is not merely just another city, it's
• 32:04
  Ukraine's principal commercial maritime outlet, an intelligence and
• 32:10
  naval drone operating area, and one of the
• 32:12
  country's strongest symbolic links and actual links to
• 32:16
  the Black Sea.
• 32:17
  So, tell you what, what we should keep
• 32:20
  looking for in the future is navigational warnings,
• 32:25
  closing defined maritime zones, Russian boarding diversion or
• 32:30
  seizure of vessels, which they're starting to do
• 32:32
  down there, sustained mining or enforced exclusion areas,
• 32:37
  commercial insurers, this is the big one, commercial
• 32:40
  insurers withdrawing coverage and saying we're not going
• 32:43
  to cover you if you go to Ukraine.
• 32:45
  Start watching for those stories because they're already
• 32:47
  out there and more coming.
• 32:49
  And major shipping lines suspending Odessa calls, which
• 32:52
  has already been done by China, the largest
• 32:54
  shipper in the world, I forget the name
• 32:56
  of it, you see them all the time,
• 32:57
  Maersk, M-A-E-R-S-K, you
• 32:59
  see them all the time, they've cancelled anything
• 33:02
  going through the Black Sea.
• 33:04
  So, no Black Sea shipping for them, major
• 33:06
  shipping lines suspending, it's a big deal.
• 33:08
  And there's already been a sharp decline in
• 33:10
  port traffic and Russian control over the Danube
• 33:13
  approach.
• 33:14
  But until then, we're only, until we see
• 33:17
  far more of that, there's not been enough
• 33:19
  yet to say it's a real blockade.
• 33:21
  But a progressive military isolation of Odessa is
• 33:25
  existent, and it's getting bigger, but it's not
• 33:29
  yet a total blockade.
• 33:31
  So, there was also, China is allegedly creating
• 33:35
  a South Sea, South China Sea blockade as
• 33:38
  well.
• 33:38
  Things are heating up all over the place.
• 33:41
  It's separate, it's near the Huangyuandao-Scarborough Shoal
• 33:45
  disputed by China and the Philippines.
• 33:47
  And on August 1, China conducted coordinated naval,
• 33:50
  air force, and coast guard exercises that involved
• 33:52
  sea and air control, reconnaissance warnings, joint strike
• 33:56
  practice, boarding and inspection practice, interception, forced towing,
• 34:02
  everything that you're going to do.
• 34:04
  Not a blockade of the entire sea, it
• 34:06
  was concentrated demonstration of China's capacity to control
• 34:10
  the access to the Scarborough Shoal and exclude
• 34:13
  or remove Philippine vessels.
• 34:15
  So, major powers are increasingly using some sort
• 34:19
  of layered control, air power, naval patrols, coast
• 34:23
  guard, law enforcement, etc.
• 34:24
  So, this is increasingly going to be important.
• 34:29
  I'm going to talk Fauci, but I think
• 34:33
  we're going to do that after the break,
• 34:35
  is we're going to break and do some
• 34:38
  Fauci.
• 34:40
  But I wanted to talk about with these,
• 34:44
  the different thought processes that are going on,
• 34:51
  especially with the flip-flopping of Laura Loomer
• 34:54
  and her now suddenly loving Ukraine and wanting
• 34:58
  to be over there and getting very general
• 35:02
  in terms of Azov Brigade and whether Nazi
• 35:05
  symbols are appropriate and all of that that
• 35:09
  she got into with Belinsky and talk about
• 35:16
  something that I noticed, okay?
• 35:19
  So, my wife is Russian, of course, and
• 35:26
  she's Muslim, and they speak, she speaks about,
• 35:31
  uh, said that, and we've had discussions over
• 35:36
  this because she calls me something bezpechni, and
• 35:40
  bezpechni means, uh, the best translation would probably
• 35:45
  be careless, carefree, not exact, and she calls
• 35:49
  Russians are exact, and they are very deep,
• 35:54
  and this is generalizations, of course, that Americans
• 35:57
  tend to be more, uh, like, I'm, I
• 36:03
  call myself a big picture guy.
• 36:05
  I like the big picture, the details, I'm
• 36:08
  not so concerned about them, but for the
• 36:10
  Russian, the detail is what matters, okay?
• 36:13
  The big picture, and you can compare this
• 36:16
  to Trump and Putin right now, is what
• 36:19
  I say.
• 36:20
  Trump is a big picture guy, no doubt.
• 36:23
  He doesn't give a rip about the details,
• 36:25
  he gives a rip about the big picture.
• 36:30
  I want the war over.
• 36:32
  The details, I don't matter, we can work
• 36:34
  that out.
• 36:35
  See, I think that way.
• 36:36
  I think big picture.
• 36:37
  What is the ultimate goal?
• 36:39
  The ultimate goal is to stop wars around
• 36:41
  the world that are funding idiots and assholes
• 36:44
  around the, around the United States and all
• 36:47
  over the hegemonic, uh, U.S. deep state
• 36:51
  structure.
• 36:51
  I believe that, and, and I believe that
• 36:54
  you aren't, you somehow get folded into the
• 36:58
  deep state when you act on behalf of
• 37:00
  the deep state.
• 37:01
  It's not, it's, it's everybody, it's, it's not
• 37:04
  a group of people sitting in a room
• 37:06
  manipulating the planet at the Bill Gates level.
• 37:10
  It's, it's everybody in the established power acting
• 37:15
  in concert for the same sorts of goals
• 37:18
  that are detrimental to the rest of the
• 37:20
  people in the United States and the West
• 37:23
  and in the world.
• 37:24
  That's, that's the way I see it.
• 37:26
  And, uh, I've always tried to explain that
• 37:28
  and it is hard to explain my thoughts
• 37:31
  about the deep state because I don't believe
• 37:33
  there's any sort of little, you know, one
• 37:35
  person or a 10 person, 12 person cabal
• 37:39
  that says, you know, I'm in charge of
• 37:41
  the U.S., you're in charge of England,
• 37:43
  England, France, and Germany, and they split up
• 37:45
  the world and they have this hegemonic view
• 37:48
  of it is, it's, it's kind of a
• 37:49
  accumulation of power that gets together and acts
• 37:55
  on its own interests and not the interests
• 37:57
  of the rest of us.
• 37:59
  And, uh, government is always been run that
• 38:02
  way.
• 38:04
  And, uh, so Tochni is exact, it's precise,
• 38:08
  it's accurate, and Russians want detail.
• 38:11
  Yeah, your big picture is let's stop this
• 38:13
  war.
• 38:14
  Here's in the Alaska, uh, summit, here's what
• 38:17
  I want in order to get that.
• 38:19
  And Trump looks at it and goes, that's
• 38:21
  reasonable.
• 38:22
  Comes back and for two, three weeks, he's
• 38:24
  talking Putin's nice guy, Putin's this.
• 38:26
  And, uh, but the neocons don't want that.
• 38:29
  They can't have that.
• 38:30
  They can't have those things happen, uh, because
• 38:34
  that's not what they've been pushing for the
• 38:36
  last 30 years since the wall came down.
• 38:39
  And, uh, since the collapse of the Soviet
• 38:41
  Union, they can't, they can't do it.
• 38:44
  And so, uh, uh, basically Bespichni being, um,
• 38:51
  insufficiently attentive to detail, which is what it
• 38:54
  means, or careless or unconcerned, that's Bespichni.
• 38:59
  And it's a kind of a, I know
• 39:01
  it's a personal bridge because I truly do
• 39:04
  think that way.
• 39:04
  I think big picture, I don't care what
• 39:07
  the tiny little details around the bottom are.
• 39:09
  I want the house built, you know, I
• 39:11
  don't want to talk about, you know, whether
• 39:14
  you're putting, uh, uh, space for, for 10
• 39:18
  hangers or, or, or 200 on the, on
• 39:21
  the, on the, uh, uh, closet rods.
• 39:26
  You know, I'm, I'm not interested in those
• 39:28
  little things.
• 39:29
  I, but, but the detail people, they're all
• 39:32
  Russian or, or I know there's people around
• 39:37
  the U S and stuff, but it's a,
• 39:38
  it's a method of thought, you know, the
• 39:40
  big picture, here's where we're going.
• 39:43
  So a war economy cannot succeed.
• 39:46
  This is what's been going on in, uh,
• 39:48
  uh, in Russia work on me, cannot succeed
• 39:51
  when the state demands precision from soldiers and
• 39:54
  engineers on the battlefield, but permits bureaucracy to
• 39:58
  delay, obstruct or exhaust to people producing what
• 40:01
  the front lines need.
• 40:02
  And so that was basically the topic last
• 40:04
  night of everything on Solovyov.
• 40:06
  And it was very interesting because it had
• 40:08
  several themes that Russians place great importance on
• 40:11
  precision, technical exactness, and attention to detail.
• 40:15
  They want to know why these wild berries
• 40:18
  don't have their own air defense, whether privately
• 40:21
  funded or funded by the United States.
• 40:24
  They also want to know why that there's
• 40:26
  a, uh, and these were some serious questions
• 40:28
  that brought up this, if there is bitching,
• 40:31
  this is the bitching, but the bitching isn't
• 40:33
  to bitch it's to identify problems and potentially
• 40:36
  fix them and get them done.
• 40:38
  And they're, they're, they're thinking differently and saying,
• 40:40
  why is the bureaucracy doing these things when
• 40:43
  they have the same fights we do with
• 40:45
  idiots in the government, you know, and we
• 40:47
  got our share of them, trust me, we
• 40:49
  got plenty of idiots in our government and
• 40:52
  they do too.
• 40:53
  And so they say they, but they want
• 40:56
  precise.
• 40:56
  They want to know, hell, we expect you
• 40:58
  to defend wild berries and you don't have
• 41:01
  enough air defense to defend wild berries outside
• 41:03
  of the large cities of Moscow.
• 41:06
  If the central of Moscow that's defended the
• 41:09
  center of large cities generally defended, but they're
• 41:11
  done separately by regional commanders and not by,
• 41:15
  uh, uh, what they would, they wanted to
• 41:17
  get down even further to have them have
• 41:20
  the ability locally to take care of all
• 41:22
  these things.
• 41:23
  And so they're bitching about that.
• 41:24
  They're talking about small manufacturers might be more
• 41:28
  adaptable than these large state enterprises.
• 41:31
  And by the way, uh, wild berries is
• 41:33
  not a state enterprise.
• 41:35
  Wild berries is a, uh, private company, huge
• 41:39
  private company.
• 41:40
  Um, and they want to, uh, they're talking
• 41:43
  about garage industries that can respond quickly to
• 41:46
  battlefield needs.
• 41:47
  There was a whole segment on Solovyov about
• 41:49
  the garage industries that are supplying things that
• 41:52
  are, uh, the technology is done locally by
• 41:55
  some genius in his garage and he creates
• 41:57
  something and he starts to sell it to
• 42:00
  the, uh, uh, to the, uh, military infrastructure
• 42:04
  and they want what he's selling a small
• 42:06
  component of this or a small bit of,
• 42:09
  uh, attaching, uh, uh, something to a, uh,
• 42:12
  drone like that.
• 42:13
  And, uh, those people aren't, they're being the
• 42:17
  bureaucracy of going through and creating your own
• 42:20
  business is, uh, is a difficult process.
• 42:24
  And they are talking about it and saying
• 42:26
  that these guys, maybe we need to speed
• 42:28
  up some of the bureaucracy as well.
• 42:31
  And they say bureaucratic certification, procurement, taxation, inspection,
• 42:35
  and contracting rules prevent useful equipment from reaching
• 42:39
  the front lines.
• 42:40
  And so we need to either relax them
• 42:42
  or recreate them.
• 42:43
  And the government has to distinguish between necessary
• 42:46
  quality control and destructive administrative formalism.
• 42:50
  Now, remember these guys are coming from the
• 42:52
  Soviet Union, which was all about checklists and
• 42:57
  papers, kind of like Missouri.
• 43:00
  It's all about the, it's all about the
• 43:03
  control and you got to go and lick
• 43:06
  the ass of this person and you'll get
• 43:08
  your little check mark.
• 43:09
  And then you go to the next table
• 43:11
  and this person checks you off and you,
• 43:14
  then you wait two days for some guy
• 43:16
  to come inspect this and you get your
• 43:18
  third check mark on your list of a
• 43:20
  hundred check marks from a hundred different bureaucrats,
• 43:24
  all of which require an ass licking or
• 43:28
  money or something else or a preferential consideration
• 43:33
  or tickets to the Bolshoi Ballet or whatever.
• 43:37
  And the further up you go up to
• 43:39
  bureaucracy, the more it takes to get you
• 43:42
  there.
• 43:42
  Well, it's the same in the United States.
• 43:44
  You know, we have to do the same
• 43:45
  thing.
• 43:46
  And depending on where you live in Missouri,
• 43:48
  you know, we're checklist, we're checklist people here.
• 43:52
  You know, there's no laissez faire.
• 43:55
  There's no free economic development.
• 44:00
  No, no, no.
• 44:01
  You must kiss the rear end of the
• 44:04
  people in power in order to get what
• 44:06
  you want.
• 44:07
  So it's a, you know, a skeptical argument,
• 44:11
  I suppose, a counter argument is that wartime
• 44:14
  emergency cannot become an excuse for some sort,
• 44:19
  you know, any sort of defective equipment or
• 44:21
  corruption.
• 44:22
  And that is rampant in Ukraine and not
• 44:27
  non-existent in Russia, certainly not non-existent
• 44:31
  in the United States.
• 44:32
  They talk, you know, they don't want anything
• 44:34
  unsafe either, but the answer isn't simply abolishing
• 44:38
  regulation.
• 44:39
  And they talked about this.
• 44:41
  And it's the same in the United States.
• 44:43
  It is creating a fast, technically competent approval
• 44:47
  system that tests what matters the most and
• 44:52
  eliminates paperwork and government overreach that doesn't work
• 44:57
  and that people don't want and is offensive
• 45:00
  to the populations.
• 45:03
  And that's true in the United States and
• 45:05
  in Russia.
• 45:06
  And both people, you know, both peoples fight
• 45:09
  the same thing.
• 45:10
  Missourians fight the same thing all the time
• 45:13
  if you own a business.
• 45:16
  So I want to get to Fauci, you
• 45:20
  know, and so we're going to take a
• 45:22
  break.
• 45:23
  And while we do, I'm going to play
• 45:26
  for you a song.
• 45:28
  And it's just an instrumental.
• 45:30
  Again, I've been on the Ota Otakik lately,
• 45:35
  which is a Russian instrumental female group.
• 45:39
  And get this, now they're becoming so popular,
• 45:42
  they have created a video that's an actual
• 45:47
  photo session.
• 45:49
  So they have these girls all in a
• 45:51
  photo session.
• 45:52
  They're all becoming wildly famous over there.
• 45:55
  And actually, they already are.
• 45:57
  They've been around for years.
• 45:59
  But all their new videos still come out.
• 46:04
  And they've been quite popular over there.
• 46:06
  But I'm going to, there's also a group
• 46:09
  of singing girls that wander around in various
• 46:12
  places.
• 46:13
  I've played a couple of theirs as well.
• 46:15
  And I may go back to them and
• 46:16
  find some for you.
• 46:17
  But this is the Ota Orchestra, Let Me
• 46:19
  Free.
• 46:20
  And it's the photo session that is there.
• 46:24
  We'll come back with some discussion of the
• 46:26
  old Anthony Fauci nonsensical nonsense.
• 46:31
  Wasn't that entertaining?
• 46:33
  Didn't you like it?
• 46:34
  I did.
• 46:35
  And that was the Ota Orchestra, which I
• 46:38
  like listening to.
• 46:39
  It's kind of enlightening.
• 46:42
  I like it.
• 46:44
  I like it a lot.
• 46:45
  So I was reviewing some news before we
• 46:49
  get to our Fauci deal.
• 46:54
  And tomorrow, I think I'm gonna spend a
• 46:56
  lot of time on this Laura Loomer and
• 47:00
  her three interviews.
• 47:02
  So in kind of a little prep for
• 47:04
  tomorrow's show.
• 47:05
  And I thought about trying to fit it
• 47:07
  in all in one day, or all today,
• 47:10
  I mean, because I wanted to talk about
• 47:12
  the things I've already talked about.
• 47:15
  But we have three interviews by Laura Loomer.
• 47:19
  And we have the interview of Rubio, the
• 47:24
  interview of the Green Goblin, and the interview
• 47:27
  of this Bilecki.
• 47:30
  And Bilecki, and what's funny about the Bilecki
• 47:33
  interview is that...
• 47:36
  Now remember, I've said forever that, and well,
• 47:41
  not because I say it, but because it's
• 47:43
  true, that east of the Dnieper River, Dnieper
• 47:48
  Petrovsk on eastward, has been Russian and Russian
• 47:55
  history and Russian language dominated forever.
• 48:00
  Okay.
• 48:01
  And Kharkov is one of those cities, that
• 48:05
  is also Russian and always has been Russian,
• 48:09
  Russian speaking, Russian culture, all of that.
• 48:13
  The Azov Brigade was formed by this Bilecki
• 48:18
  guy.
• 48:19
  And he was interviewed by Laura Loomer.
• 48:23
  And she was concerned about Nazi symbols, because
• 48:27
  she's Jewish.
• 48:29
  And she quizzed him about that quite a
• 48:31
  bit.
• 48:32
  But she's such a terrible interviewer, as I
• 48:37
  already outlined before.
• 48:38
  And I think that tomorrow we're going to
• 48:41
  just do all three of the interviews that
• 48:45
  she talked about and start with her and
• 48:47
  go until we finish on it.
• 48:49
  But today, I wanted to get back to
• 48:52
  the old Fauci and his refusal to answer
• 48:57
  any questions in front of the testimonial
• 49:12
  group when he was chatting in front of
• 49:14
  the legislature.
• 49:16
  And he wouldn't answer any questions.
• 49:20
  And there's so many, is he a, do
• 49:25
  we want him as a prisoner or a
• 49:27
  witness, is what I'm saying.
• 49:29
  Because there are things that can, you know,
• 49:34
  can be discussed about him.
• 49:37
  And so, I want to start with, and
• 49:41
  I went through the whole set of questions,
• 49:44
  and it was like some 140, 131, something
• 49:48
  like that, where that he took the fifth,
• 49:53
  and he pleaded the fifth, right.
• 49:56
  And that I find amusing.
• 50:01
  And let's see here.
• 50:11
  So, he could be held in contempt to
• 50:14
  Congress, right.
• 50:15
  And that's the important part.
• 50:16
  He could be held in contempt.
• 50:17
  And they're actually talking about holding him in
• 50:19
  contempt.
• 50:20
  And a short thing on holding people in
• 50:23
  contempt.
• 50:24
  If you're going to hold somebody in, if
• 50:27
  somebody is held in contempt, they are not
• 50:32
  doing something that a court told them to
• 50:34
  do.
• 50:34
  I told you the story about the judge
• 50:36
  here trying to hold me in contempt forever
• 50:38
  ago.
• 50:40
  And now he's a federal judge.
• 50:42
  And, you know, but he was an idiot
• 50:43
  then, he's an idiot now.
• 50:45
  He shouldn't have done what he did.
• 50:46
  And then to fix it, he decided to
• 50:50
  hold me in contempt, you know, for his
• 50:52
  own, outside of his power, actions, you know.
• 50:57
  And I didn't make any friends, you know,
• 50:59
  by doing what I, or calling him out
• 51:02
  on it.
• 51:03
  And I didn't make any friends.
• 51:05
  And he was quite gleeful, you know, over
• 51:09
  the fact that I was going to be
• 51:11
  targeted.
• 51:12
  I can get you in other ways, you
• 51:13
  know.
• 51:13
  And I think he did.
• 51:14
  I think he participated in it truthfully.
• 51:17
  And so, holding someone in contempt is a
• 51:22
  big deal.
• 51:23
  And what you can do is you can
• 51:25
  charge him, let's see, the discretion is up
• 51:28
  to the judge generally, or up to whatever,
• 51:30
  whoever's going to hold him in contempt.
• 51:32
  And there's a contempt at Congress that has
• 51:34
  specific routes of where you can go and
• 51:36
  what you feel.
• 51:36
  But if a judge holds you in contempt,
• 51:38
  he can penalize you.
• 51:41
  Like every day you don't do what I
• 51:44
  told you to do, I'm going to charge
• 51:47
  you $1,000 and give it to the
• 51:49
  opponent in the case.
• 51:51
  Okay.
• 51:51
  So that's how they encourage you to do
• 51:54
  what the judge said.
• 51:56
  They can also put you in jail until
• 51:58
  you purge yourself of the contempt.
• 52:01
  And so, you can go to jail until,
• 52:04
  so if somebody wants you to say who
• 52:06
  your source is for your private expose in
• 52:14
  your local newspaper, and you refuse to answer,
• 52:17
  and the judge ordered you to say who
• 52:19
  it is, and you say, well, I'm not
• 52:21
  going to give up my source.
• 52:23
  And the judge goes, well, you can sit
• 52:24
  in jail then until you do.
• 52:26
  Or I'm going to bill you $1,000
• 52:28
  a day until you do.
• 52:30
  Well, so do we want Fauci?
• 52:34
  What's more important with Fauci?
• 52:36
  That's my question to you.
• 52:38
  Is it a prisoner?
• 52:43
  Do we want retribution?
• 52:45
  Is that what we want for this a
• 52:47
  -hole?
• 52:47
  Because nobody's ever held accountable.
• 52:50
  Or do we want more information?
• 52:53
  And do we want to use him as
• 52:56
  a witness?
• 52:57
  Grant him immunity and say, all right, talk.
• 53:00
  Say, we won't prosecute, now talk.
• 53:04
  I want to know what's happening.
• 53:06
  I'm no defender of Anthony Fauci.
• 53:08
  I think he's a goon, and he's part
• 53:10
  of the bad guy crowd in government that
• 53:15
  I talk about.
• 53:15
  They do exist, and they're rampant.
• 53:18
  There's plenty of them.
• 53:20
  It's not like you're never going to find
• 53:23
  them.
• 53:24
  You can't swing a dead cat without hitting
• 53:27
  one of these Fauci types in the government.
• 53:31
  I'm telling you, it's rampant.
• 53:35
  It's not just Fauci.
• 53:37
  It's everywhere.
• 53:38
  And the higher you get, the more likely
• 53:41
  that is.
• 53:42
  And that's absolutely true.
• 53:44
  And I'd debate any one of them to
• 53:46
  talk about their purity.
• 53:48
  They aren't pure by the time they get
• 53:49
  to that level.
• 53:50
  They just are not.
• 53:52
  You've had to screw too many people, make
• 53:54
  too many deals to get the dollars you
• 53:56
  need to get reelected, and you're dirty.
• 53:59
  And there's no way that your background will
• 54:02
  ever be able to be seen through an
• 54:06
  objective lens as anything other than acting on
• 54:09
  your own behalf.
• 54:11
  That's what's going to happen to Fauci.
• 54:13
  It happens to everybody.
• 54:14
  It happens to a lot of them.
• 54:16
  Don't go acting like they're all pure by
• 54:18
  the time they get up there.
• 54:20
  They have to make deals to survive politically.
• 54:24
  And they make those deals.
• 54:26
  And some of those deals are deals with
• 54:29
  the devil.
• 54:30
  You have to vote with your party when
• 54:33
  you said you weren't going to vote with
• 54:34
  your party or your own party will take
• 54:36
  you out.
• 54:38
  And that's the realities of life, is you
• 54:41
  got to kiss the rump of the next
• 54:43
  person up.
• 54:44
  And rump kissing better be something you're good
• 54:47
  at as a politician or administrator.
• 54:51
  Fauci is stuck.
• 54:53
  He knows he's screwed.
• 54:54
  He knows there's too much out there.
• 54:56
  And so his lawyers say, well, you could
• 54:58
  always plead the fifth.
• 54:59
  And so he's leaped onto that as saying,
• 55:02
  but people think the same thing.
• 55:05
  You look guilty when you do that if
• 55:07
  you have to hide.
• 55:08
  You're not coming to Congress to share information.
• 55:12
  You're coming to save your skin.
• 55:14
  You are a school to school is what
• 55:16
  you are.
• 55:16
  And you are a just the lowest of
• 55:23
  low.
• 55:24
  Let's put it that way.
• 55:25
  And and he is.
• 55:26
  I believe he may have been a corrupt
• 55:28
  government actor.
• 55:30
  I believe he exercised extraordinary influence while avoiding
• 55:36
  responsibility for any consequences.
• 55:40
  But I'm not interested really in satisfying myself
• 55:44
  or everybody else by punishing him.
• 55:47
  I want to know what happened for me.
• 55:51
  That's more important than punishing some old dude
• 55:53
  who, you know, did what everybody else does,
• 55:57
  you know, and he's just the one on
• 55:59
  the on the frying pan right now.
• 56:01
  So if we put him in jail for
• 56:03
  contempt and he remains silent, what have we
• 56:06
  learned and what have we gained?
• 56:08
  Perhaps the more important question is whether Congress
• 56:11
  should grant him sufficient immunity to remove the
• 56:16
  Fifth Amendment barrier and require him to answer
• 56:19
  every question under oath.
• 56:23
  So I guess the first question would be,
• 56:25
  why did he invoke the Fifth Amendment?
• 56:28
  His position was that the chairman and others
• 56:32
  had repeatedly called for, and he's correct, his
• 56:35
  prosecution, his imprisonment, his criminal investigation and punishment.
• 56:41
  He argues that the hearing was not a
• 56:43
  neutral inquiry, but an attempt to obtain statements
• 56:47
  to use against him and prosecute him.
• 56:50
  He's probably right.
• 56:52
  And his lawyers advised him not to answer.
• 56:55
  So that is his argument.
• 56:57
  And it's a good argument.
• 56:59
  You know, that is absolutely correct.
• 57:01
  We all know that is correct, that everybody
• 57:04
  wants his head on a platter.
• 57:06
  I don't care about the platter.
• 57:07
  I don't care about the head.
• 57:09
  I care about getting the truth is what
• 57:12
  I care about.
• 57:13
  I want to see it.
• 57:14
  So what is the pardon problem?
• 57:17
  The committee had argued that Fauci had received
• 57:20
  a broad federal pardon covering his conduct connected
• 57:23
  to his government service over a lengthy period
• 57:26
  of time.
• 57:27
  So they question whether or what type of
• 57:30
  federal criminal exposure remains.
• 57:33
  So they say, look, you got a pardon,
• 57:36
  you numb nuts, answer.
• 57:38
  We're not going to charge you with this.
• 57:39
  You've been granted a pardon in advance.
• 57:42
  So what would be the harm of them
• 57:44
  saying, you know, okay, then you're immune from
• 57:49
  any prosecution for anything you say on the
• 57:52
  stand.
• 57:54
  So let's get it.
• 57:56
  So because the pardon, you know, the problem
• 57:59
  is there.
• 58:01
  He has received it.
• 58:03
  So a pardon wouldn't automatically eliminate every conceivable
• 58:08
  danger either.
• 58:09
  Any conduct outside of the scope.
• 58:12
  You know, if you say, okay, well, outside
• 58:14
  the scope, what about inside?
• 58:16
  You know, that's definite.
• 58:18
  What about state offenses?
• 58:20
  Are you going to get me so every
• 58:21
  single state can't charge me too?
• 58:24
  Because, you know, you get a state like
• 58:26
  Missouri and people who want his head, they'll
• 58:29
  go after him.
• 58:30
  Future perjury charges, future false statement charges, obstruction
• 58:36
  that he commits later or disputes about covered
• 58:40
  conduct or anything collateral to it.
• 58:43
  So the committee shouldn't merely shout that Fifth
• 58:46
  Amendment is unavailable to him because he signed
• 58:50
  a or because he received a pardon.
• 58:55
  They should say something else.
• 58:57
  They should determine what exposure remains and if
• 59:01
  necessary, give him immunity sufficient to compel his
• 59:06
  testimony.
• 59:07
  I'm of the opinion we're never going to
• 59:09
  get any answers anyway.
• 59:10
  So if you want to prosecute him, figure
• 59:12
  out how and then you'll find out whether
• 59:14
  that pardon applies or not.
• 59:17
  So what about the Wuhan funding?
• 59:21
  So here's my unanswered questions.
• 59:24
  Who made the decision to fund the work
• 59:27
  there?
• 59:27
  Who specifically?
• 59:29
  What exactly was being funded?
• 59:32
  What risks did they identify?
• 59:34
  What benefits did they expect?
• 59:37
  Who approved the risk-benefit analysis?
• 59:40
  What laboratory safety conditions were required?
• 59:44
  Did American officials actually inspect the facilities?
• 59:49
  Could the United States and should the United
• 59:51
  States have suspended the funding?
• 59:54
  Could it obtain original data right there?
• 59:58
  Or did it have access originally?
• 1:00:00
  And what happened when the Chinese partners refused
• 1:00:04
  cooperation?
• 1:00:05
  And did Fauci himself ever conclude that the
• 1:00:08
  decision was a mistake?
• 1:00:10
  That's what I want to know.
• 1:00:14
  The hearing repeatedly challenged him to explain the
• 1:00:17
  rationale and say whether he would make the
• 1:00:19
  same decisions again.
• 1:00:21
  And he didn't answer.
• 1:00:22
  And so there are initial laboratory origin concerns.
• 1:00:28
  The hearing alleged and what this is all
• 1:00:30
  propaganda, by the way, they all get in
• 1:00:32
  there and talk about the the when they
• 1:00:36
  ask a question, it's a politically formatted question,
• 1:00:39
  just like the ones we're going to go
• 1:00:40
  over tomorrow in the three loomer interviews that
• 1:00:44
  are her lecture and their response.
• 1:00:48
  It's pretty funny.
• 1:00:49
  So in the hearings, they alleged that scientists
• 1:00:53
  privately considered a laboratory origin plausible and that
• 1:00:58
  early discussions were much less certain than later
• 1:01:01
  public statements suggested.
• 1:01:03
  And so who first raised a laboratory origin
• 1:01:06
  and what specific genetic features about COVID concern
• 1:01:10
  them?
• 1:01:11
  Who participated in those calls?
• 1:01:13
  That's what I want to know.
• 1:01:17
  And what did Fauci believe when the calls
• 1:01:19
  were ongoing?
• 1:01:21
  What changed his view or any of participants
• 1:01:23
  view?
• 1:01:24
  Was new scientific evidence produced?
• 1:01:27
  Did they get anything out of all this?
• 1:01:29
  Did anyone discuss the political consequence at all?
• 1:01:33
  Did anyone discuss NIAID's funding exposure?
• 1:01:38
  And who decided that laboratory origin should be
• 1:01:42
  publicly characterized as implausible or just a conspiracy
• 1:01:47
  theory or better yet, Russian disinformation?
• 1:01:51
  Right.
• 1:01:53
  It's all nonsense all around.
• 1:01:58
  So what's the proximal origin process?
• 1:02:02
  So the committee alleged that Fauci participated in
• 1:02:06
  discussions preceding the article, that he reviewed or
• 1:02:10
  commented on the developing analysis, that he later
• 1:02:14
  publicly cited the article, but did not fully
• 1:02:18
  disclose his involvement in it.
• 1:02:22
  And he did not disclose the author's earlier
• 1:02:24
  concerns.
• 1:02:26
  The question should be Tochni exact.
• 1:02:29
  Did Fauci propose this article?
• 1:02:32
  Did he select or influence who the authors
• 1:02:35
  would be?
• 1:02:37
  Did he review the drafts?
• 1:02:38
  Did he suggest the language?
• 1:02:40
  Did he pressure anyone at all to put
• 1:02:43
  anything he wanted in the article or not?
• 1:02:46
  Did Francis Collins participate?
• 1:02:50
  Did government funding relationships influence the authors?
• 1:02:54
  Oh, no doubt it did.
• 1:02:55
  If you get government funding, you got to
• 1:02:57
  give the answer they want you to give.
• 1:03:00
  And did any author privately retain any doubt
• 1:03:02
  after the publication?
• 1:03:03
  And why was the article used as the
• 1:03:06
  public relations instrument that it was?
• 1:03:10
  And most importantly, was NIAID attempting to investigate
• 1:03:19
  whether research connected with its funding contributed to
• 1:03:24
  the pandemic?
• 1:03:25
  I think that's an interesting question.
• 1:03:27
  And if so, who provided the oversight, if
• 1:03:30
  any?
• 1:03:31
  Were there any conflicts discussed or disclosed?
• 1:03:35
  Did the agency officials have an institutional interest
• 1:03:38
  in national origin?
• 1:03:40
  Did protection of the agency shape public messaging?
• 1:03:43
  You know, we got to protect it.
• 1:03:45
  And did anyone recommend an outside investigation?
• 1:03:50
  One thing that and we're never going to
• 1:03:51
  get any answers to these things.
• 1:03:53
  And so there's so many questions that will
• 1:03:56
  never be answered that this whole thing is
• 1:03:59
  a fruitless and waste of time effort.
• 1:04:03
  But if you talk about gain of function,
• 1:04:07
  the hearing in the hearing, they allege that
• 1:04:10
  Fauci used broad language when defending the scientific
• 1:04:13
  value of this risky research.
• 1:04:15
  But he relied upon narrow technical definitions when
• 1:04:19
  denying that NIAID had funded the gain of
• 1:04:22
  function work in Wuhan.
• 1:04:25
  So he flip-flops.
• 1:04:27
  So what definition governed grants?
• 1:04:30
  I mean, how do you get one definition
• 1:04:31
  for a grant and a different when you
• 1:04:34
  have a pandemic spread around the planet?
• 1:04:38
  It's totally different.
• 1:04:39
  No, it wasn't me.
• 1:04:40
  But give me a definition of what you're
• 1:04:43
  working on that's really vague when you file
• 1:04:45
  it.
• 1:04:45
  But then when I get it, no, no,
• 1:04:48
  no, we only want a ding.
• 1:04:50
  We wanted this.
• 1:04:51
  We interpret what the law is.
• 1:04:53
  Remember, we're the executive branch.
• 1:04:57
  We interpret what they aren't supposed to because
• 1:05:00
  guess what?
• 1:05:00
  No deference, not anymore.
• 1:05:02
  So who wrote the grants?
• 1:05:05
  Who wrote the gain of function?
• 1:05:06
  When was it changed?
• 1:05:07
  Were exemptions granted for these guys who approved
• 1:05:10
  them?
• 1:05:10
  Did internal scientific definitions differ from ordinary language?
• 1:05:14
  Were members of Congress told?
• 1:05:16
  And did Fauci understand that his answer would
• 1:05:19
  be heard differently by the public?
• 1:05:22
  So you can't really describe a benefit broadly
• 1:05:25
  when seeking money than define the risk very
• 1:05:28
  narrowly when Congress asks you who's responsible.
• 1:05:31
  You know, it's just they don't add up.
• 1:05:34
  You know, oh, geez, we're broadly, we're fixing
• 1:05:36
  things around the planet.
• 1:05:38
  And what do you want?
• 1:05:39
  Well, you know, be specific.
• 1:05:40
  What's your question?
• 1:05:41
  You know, you get down to the, well,
• 1:05:43
  what specific chemical are you looking for?
• 1:05:46
  You know, you want that.
• 1:05:47
  It's crazy.
• 1:05:51
  Let's talk about federal records and freedom of
• 1:05:53
  information avoidance.
• 1:05:55
  And this is good stuff because this is
• 1:05:57
  where I like to go.
• 1:06:00
  I got an interesting letter back from the
• 1:06:04
  person in charge of records at the Alcohol
• 1:06:07
  Tobacco Control that I'll go over with you
• 1:06:10
  on Civic Outlaws on Friday that is rather
• 1:06:14
  interesting.
• 1:06:16
  Denial, denied, we're not answering basically.
• 1:06:20
  And it's pretty fun.
• 1:06:22
  So we'll talk about that.
• 1:06:24
  And we'll talk about the hundreds of sunshine
• 1:06:28
  requests that I sent out to all the
• 1:06:29
  sheriffs and all the counties to figure out
• 1:06:32
  where they are on this gaming issue that
• 1:06:36
  we're attacking, or these games of chance, VLTs,
• 1:06:42
  whatever they call them, and the definitions thereof.
• 1:06:46
  I've spoken to so many people over the
• 1:06:49
  last few weeks.
• 1:06:50
  And we're going to have a big show
• 1:06:56
  on that on Friday, and several meetings on
• 1:06:59
  it this week.
• 1:07:00
  So there's things going on.
• 1:07:02
  Let's talk about the FOI, Freedom of Information
• 1:07:04
  Act avoidance.
• 1:07:07
  And so this is where you can't get
• 1:07:08
  any truth from anybody.
• 1:07:10
  This is the government.
• 1:07:11
  This is how the government works.
• 1:07:12
  They don't answer questions.
• 1:07:14
  They are arrogant.
• 1:07:16
  They deny everything.
• 1:07:17
  And then they won't tell you anything.
• 1:07:19
  And transparency does not exist.
• 1:07:23
  So this is the most important truth issue
• 1:07:27
  here.
• 1:07:28
  The hearing discussed David Morin's and communications that
• 1:07:32
  suggested that personal Gmail could be used, that
• 1:07:37
  information could be carried to Fauci's home, that
• 1:07:41
  officials understood how to avoid freedom of information.
• 1:07:45
  They all do.
• 1:07:46
  And here they understand how to avoid 610,
• 1:07:51
  revised statutes of Missouri.
• 1:07:53
  They know how to avoid it, and they're
• 1:07:54
  pretty good at it.
• 1:07:56
  And they know how to do it.
• 1:07:57
  They don't want to answer.
• 1:07:59
  They don't wish to comply.
• 1:08:01
  And they know that your options are go
• 1:08:03
  to court, wait years for them to comply,
• 1:08:08
  and then make statements.
• 1:08:10
  So work communications were kept outside of the
• 1:08:15
  official systems.
• 1:08:17
  And so you can't, you don't have to
• 1:08:18
  answer freedom of information if it was outside
• 1:08:21
  the system.
• 1:08:22
  Records may have been deleted, taken out.
• 1:08:24
  You think that don't happen, you better think
• 1:08:26
  again.
• 1:08:27
  Fauci may have told Francis Collins to delete
• 1:08:30
  certain emails.
• 1:08:31
  That's possible.
• 1:08:32
  So the questions I would have that might
• 1:08:34
  be wanting to be answered, and I don't
• 1:08:37
  care if Fauci gets punished or not, I'd
• 1:08:40
  like to know the answers.
• 1:08:42
  Did Fauci receive work communication through personal email
• 1:08:45
  accounts?
• 1:08:46
  Did Morins deliver documents to Fauci's home instead
• 1:08:49
  of sending them by email?
• 1:08:51
  Were private devices used separate?
• 1:08:54
  Separate private devices, you know, here's my shadow
• 1:08:57
  phone, and here's my real phone.
• 1:09:00
  Were the records preserved?
• 1:09:01
  Were emails deleted?
• 1:09:03
  Who instructed whom?
• 1:09:05
  Did lawyers approve any deletion?
• 1:09:07
  That's a big one.
• 1:09:09
  Did the lawyers tell you what to do?
• 1:09:11
  Did Fauci understand that the records were federal
• 1:09:14
  property?
• 1:09:15
  Of course he did.
• 1:09:17
  Were Signal, WhatsApp, or any other text or
• 1:09:22
  communications platform used?
• 1:09:26
  And if so, under what names?
• 1:09:29
  Are device backups available?
• 1:09:31
  Did anyone deliberately interfere with or, I suppose,
• 1:09:37
  frustrate the public record requests?
• 1:09:40
  Because they've been rampant, they just refuse to
• 1:09:43
  supply anything.
• 1:09:44
  The hearing transcript specifically includes questions about Morins'
• 1:09:49
  personal Gmail, delivery of material to Fauci's home,
• 1:09:53
  and preservation of work-related communications.
• 1:09:57
  So that's an interesting legal topic.
• 1:10:01
  Maybe you let him off the hook and
• 1:10:03
  you bring it up.
• 1:10:04
  How about the lockdowns for schools?
• 1:10:06
  And school lockdowns of this, school closure of
• 1:10:09
  that.
• 1:10:09
  Fauci's defense has been that he didn't issue
• 1:10:12
  an order.
• 1:10:13
  I didn't issue every order.
• 1:10:14
  It wasn't me.
• 1:10:15
  You know, I'm not the one that issues
• 1:10:16
  those.
• 1:10:18
  Other people are.
• 1:10:19
  I just, you know, make suggestions as, you
• 1:10:23
  know, from my position.
• 1:10:25
  So, and that's been his defense.
• 1:10:28
  I don't do it.
• 1:10:28
  But the question is his influence, not his
• 1:10:32
  order of a particular lockdown or closure.
• 1:10:37
  It's not formal signatory authority.
• 1:10:40
  It's influence.
• 1:10:42
  And so communications that suggested that he influenced
• 1:10:47
  New York school closures, some communications about that.
• 1:10:52
  California officials reacted to his television appearances where
• 1:10:56
  he said certain things.
• 1:10:58
  Governors and mayors relied upon his authority and
• 1:11:01
  his alleged knowledge of the situation.
• 1:11:04
  And his recommendations were often presented.
• 1:11:08
  Remember this?
• 1:11:09
  As science deniers, remember the people that didn't
• 1:11:12
  listen to him were science deniers.
• 1:11:14
  You're denying science.
• 1:11:15
  Columbia was going mad because we're all crazy.
• 1:11:20
  I mean, seriously, nuts.
• 1:11:23
  You science denier.
• 1:11:25
  They were yelling at you.
• 1:11:26
  Lady yelled at me in the grocery store,
• 1:11:29
  came up and was just not a crazy
• 1:11:32
  woman.
• 1:11:34
  Cause I wouldn't wear a mask inside the
• 1:11:36
  grocery store.
• 1:11:37
  I was like, man, you were 50 feet
• 1:11:38
  away from me.
• 1:11:39
  Why'd you run up to me to, to,
• 1:11:41
  to interrogate me about not wearing a mask?
• 1:11:45
  There's nobody near me.
• 1:11:46
  Screw off.
• 1:11:48
  You know?
• 1:11:48
  No, no, no.
• 1:11:49
  I watched Fauci on TV, you know, but
• 1:11:52
  we'll go back to watching Fauci on TV
• 1:11:54
  and please leave me alone to make my
• 1:11:56
  own decisions about whether your mask protects you
• 1:11:59
  or protects me.
• 1:12:00
  I believe it protects you.
• 1:12:02
  So go enjoy your protection.
• 1:12:04
  I don't need it.
• 1:12:05
  You know, get away from me, you know,
• 1:12:07
  stop wandering over here.
• 1:12:09
  I'm safe without your mask.
• 1:12:11
  And, uh, and I believe that argument was
• 1:12:13
  actually stronger than her argument that I needed
• 1:12:16
  to wear a mask.
• 1:12:16
  So she would feel protected behind her own
• 1:12:19
  mask.
• 1:12:19
  What nonsense is that?
• 1:12:21
  If you're wearing one, you're protected.
• 1:12:23
  Fauci's a moron.
• 1:12:25
  If he believes that this mask is going
• 1:12:27
  to, who's it protect?
• 1:12:28
  Which ways it go?
• 1:12:30
  The protection only goes one way.
• 1:12:32
  I don't get it.
• 1:12:33
  Uh, and I never did get it.
• 1:12:35
  So I want to know what did he
• 1:12:37
  recommend to whom, what evidence supports that recommendations?
• 1:12:42
  And I mean, outside of the TV, you
• 1:12:44
  know, uh, what alternatives did they discuss were
• 1:12:47
  economic consequences modeled at all?
• 1:12:50
  And was education loss modeled?
• 1:12:54
  They're kids out of school for a freaking
• 1:12:55
  year.
• 1:12:56
  Um, where educational, uh, uh, what do you
• 1:13:02
  call it?
• 1:13:02
  Uh, repair activities discussed anything that would say,
• 1:13:08
  what do we do afterward?
• 1:13:10
  How do we make sure that they get
• 1:13:12
  these, these, this treatment, especially or education, especially
• 1:13:15
  at the younger ages and where development effects
• 1:13:19
  on children considered my guess is no.
• 1:13:22
  And when did officials understand that school closures
• 1:13:25
  were causing even more harm than the alleged,
• 1:13:28
  uh, uh, uh, COVID nonsense.
• 1:13:33
  And why didn't they, why were they unable
• 1:13:35
  to change policy more quickly?
• 1:13:37
  I mean, what, what the hell takes so
• 1:13:39
  long?
• 1:13:39
  You can change policy instantly if it's something
• 1:13:42
  you want, but if it's something that you
• 1:13:44
  don't agree with, you can let it go
• 1:13:46
  forever.
• 1:13:47
  And did Fauci privately express any sort of
• 1:13:50
  different view from anybody?
• 1:13:53
  And, uh, you know, the other part is,
• 1:13:55
  is there any collateral, collateral public health effects
• 1:13:59
  that they talked about?
• 1:14:00
  Congress should ask how many childhood vaccinations were
• 1:14:04
  missed?
• 1:14:04
  How many cancer screenings delayed medical procedures postponed?
• 1:14:08
  How many businesses failed?
• 1:14:10
  What happened to mental health?
• 1:14:11
  What happened to addiction and overdose, domestic violence,
• 1:14:14
  children with development and language delays?
• 1:14:17
  And what did officials know about all this?
• 1:14:19
  When did they measure anything and what negative
• 1:14:22
  consequences were withheld because officials feared weakening the
• 1:14:27
  compliance?
• 1:14:29
  Nonsense.
• 1:14:32
  So public health cannot count one category of
• 1:14:35
  death and treat every other consequence as somebody
• 1:14:39
  else's problem.
• 1:14:41
  Um, what about vaccines?
• 1:14:43
  You know, we aren't going to get any
• 1:14:45
  of this if you can't get, um, past,
• 1:14:49
  uh, the green goblin, uh, of America Fauci
• 1:14:56
  he's he's the, I feel the same about
• 1:15:00
  him and his, in his discussions of, of
• 1:15:03
  everything that come out and the allegations.
• 1:15:06
  Uh, what about these, uh, cardiovascular events, pulmonary
• 1:15:09
  embolisms, neurologic signals, people say that all of
• 1:15:14
  these are in effect by the, uh, COVID
• 1:15:20
  vaccine.
• 1:15:21
  And this vaccine caused a lot of these
• 1:15:24
  things.
• 1:15:25
  So just like, and, and cause and effect
• 1:15:28
  never seemed to enter the, the, the brains
• 1:15:31
  of these goblin types when, uh, uh, Fauci
• 1:15:37
  talks about COVID it's only COVID there's, you
• 1:15:41
  never have to talk about the effects afterward.
• 1:15:44
  So what about these?
• 1:15:46
  There's allegations and questions about anything.
• 1:15:49
  So the corrected demand to him, you know,
• 1:15:53
  after you give him, I don't know, immunity
• 1:15:56
  of some sort is produce the data, produce
• 1:16:00
  the algorithms, identify safety, identify the who changed
• 1:16:04
  the methodology, show when the signals are detected,
• 1:16:07
  stuff like that.
• 1:16:09
  What about treatment suppression that people weren't getting?
• 1:16:13
  They weren't allowed to take, you know, ivermectin
• 1:16:16
  remdesivir or whatever that was called, um, any
• 1:16:19
  sort of other immunogenic immunity, uh, authorizations.
• 1:16:24
  Uh, what was that other one called?
• 1:16:27
  Hydroxychloroquine, whatever.
• 1:16:28
  I can't say it properly, but, uh, the
• 1:16:31
  possibility that alternative treatments were severely discounted and
• 1:16:36
  said, don't do this now.
• 1:16:39
  What evidence did they review to do that?
• 1:16:42
  Who evaluated?
• 1:16:43
  Did Fauci purse personally influence FDA guidance or
• 1:16:47
  NIH?
• 1:16:48
  And were any negative studies reliable?
• 1:16:51
  Were favorable studies dismissed too quickly?
• 1:16:54
  Did emergency use authorization rules affect treatment or
• 1:16:59
  the debate about treatment?
• 1:17:01
  Did commercial interests matter?
• 1:17:03
  Were physicians pressured?
• 1:17:04
  That is one of my biggest did where,
• 1:17:07
  where, where physicians, I understand that physicians were
• 1:17:11
  pressured severely to code something having to do
• 1:17:15
  with COVID or they wouldn't get paid.
• 1:17:17
  You know, they wouldn't get the money that
• 1:17:20
  says they need it.
• 1:17:21
  What about hospitals and how bad did they
• 1:17:23
  change their protocols?
• 1:17:26
  Uh, you know, what about this, this remdesivir,
• 1:17:29
  this ventilation, isolation, family access, and standardized treatment
• 1:17:34
  requirements?
• 1:17:35
  Who designed this?
• 1:17:36
  Were hospitals incentivized financially to do what he
• 1:17:40
  said?
• 1:17:41
  And, and I, I think they were, all
• 1:17:43
  these questions are, are, you know, are out
• 1:17:47
  there, including censorship and public messaging.
• 1:17:51
  Did Fauci communicate with social media?
• 1:17:54
  I think they all do it.
• 1:17:55
  Did his staff, did federal agents identify content
• 1:17:58
  to be removed or suppressed?
• 1:18:01
  I bet they did.
• 1:18:02
  Were true statements labeled misinformation?
• 1:18:06
  Russian misinformation once again.
• 1:18:08
  Were scientists suppressed because they disagreed and was
• 1:18:12
  uncertainty concealed?
• 1:18:14
  Were officials, most importantly for me, especially with
• 1:18:20
  this Fauci goon, were, were officials, including Fauci
• 1:18:23
  trying to protect public health or protect themselves?
• 1:18:29
  And it's, it's just like every government agent,
• 1:18:32
  when they get caught, it's all about protecting
• 1:18:35
  themselves.
• 1:18:36
  That's all they care about.
• 1:18:37
  I don't want to talk.
• 1:18:38
  I don't want to give information.
• 1:18:39
  I don't want to identify answers.
• 1:18:41
  I don't want to do any of this.
• 1:18:43
  And you know, we're coming up to that
• 1:18:45
  in civic outlaws.
• 1:18:47
  We have our questions out there and we're
• 1:18:49
  going to see how they refuse to answer
• 1:18:51
  them just like they do every other time.
• 1:18:55
  We'll see what they do.
• 1:18:56
  And then we'll see whether the judge will
• 1:18:58
  force them to answer them.
• 1:19:00
  You know, so I'm, I'm, I'm curious as
• 1:19:03
  to what happens when all the questions that
• 1:19:05
  we have asked come back, oh gee, unanswered.
• 1:19:10
  Surprise, surprise.
• 1:19:12
  We aren't going to answer.
• 1:19:14
  And they, and they, you know, they can't
• 1:19:15
  answer.
• 1:19:16
  If they answer, they admit exactly what I've
• 1:19:19
  been saying all along.
• 1:19:21
  And in the same goes with Fauci.
• 1:19:23
  They have caught him.
• 1:19:25
  And so how does he get out of
• 1:19:26
  it?
• 1:19:26
  He pleads the fifth and he doesn't really
• 1:19:30
  have to, because actually only the moron class
• 1:19:36
  would actually end up charging this guy with
• 1:19:38
  a crime.
• 1:19:38
  It's a waste of time.
• 1:19:40
  It's, it's, it's, it'll never go anywhere.
• 1:19:43
  But if you give him immunity, you might
• 1:19:46
  get some answers.
• 1:19:47
  But my idea is that if he's already
• 1:19:49
  had a grant of a pardon and he's
• 1:19:54
  still not answering, there's no real, there's a
• 1:19:58
  real fear, but there's no real legitimate possibility
• 1:20:03
  that he's going to be charged.
• 1:20:05
  And if somebody could say, I mean, I
• 1:20:09
  suppose you could go out and get all
• 1:20:11
  50 states in the District of Columbia and
• 1:20:14
  Puerto Rico and anybody affected to say that
• 1:20:17
  they're not going to charge him with a
• 1:20:18
  crime on a state level, but he received
• 1:20:22
  a federal pardon.
• 1:20:24
  And so this federal pardon means he can't
• 1:20:26
  be charged federally.
• 1:20:28
  And it'd be pretty influential if he was
• 1:20:31
  charged in state court and maybe a judge
• 1:20:34
  dismissed based on that.
• 1:20:35
  But I suppose he could still be criminally
• 1:20:39
  targeted everywhere.
• 1:20:40
  So we'd have to get something, some sort
• 1:20:43
  of guarantee that he wouldn't be given statements
• 1:20:49
  that some criminal, because remember, we're going to
• 1:20:52
  cover a couple of legal issues this week
• 1:20:56
  from the Supreme Court.
• 1:20:57
  One of them, a Voting Rights Act, one
• 1:21:01
  that we're going to try to cover as
• 1:21:02
  well, that they just don't answer.
• 1:21:05
  So there's, Fauci pleading the fifth has been
• 1:21:09
  not a shock.
• 1:21:19
  It's defensible.
• 1:21:20
  I mean, there's a good reason to do
• 1:21:22
  it.
• 1:21:23
  He alleges he doesn't want to be charged
• 1:21:25
  outside of any of the things that the
• 1:21:28
  pardon might not cover for him.
• 1:21:34
  Arguably, he could never be charged with anything
• 1:21:36
  federally anyway.
• 1:21:37
  Can't imagine that they would.
• 1:21:40
  But if Congress would figure out some way
• 1:21:49
  to protect him that actually might, I'm not
• 1:21:52
  agreeing with the guy.
• 1:21:54
  I think his lawyers and he himself are
• 1:21:58
  being overly cautious about him getting charged.
• 1:22:03
  Um, but there's a lot of issues too,
• 1:22:07
  you know, suppression of scientists.
• 1:22:10
  Did that happen?
• 1:22:11
  You know, uh, classified and defense related research.
• 1:22:17
  You know, what about Fort Detrick?
• 1:22:18
  What about monkey pox research?
• 1:22:21
  What about classified biological programs?
• 1:22:26
  What about intelligence community involvement by Fauci?
• 1:22:30
  Oh geez.
• 1:22:31
  What about all the shit going on in
• 1:22:33
  Ukraine?
• 1:22:34
  You know, what about those?
• 1:22:36
  You know, I want to know.
• 1:22:39
  Continued gain of function type work under different
• 1:22:41
  descriptions were in different locations around the world.
• 1:22:45
  You know, why are we funding bio labs
• 1:22:49
  in Ukraine?
• 1:22:50
  What were there?
• 1:22:50
  41 of them.
• 1:22:52
  And, and like 38 or something were funded
• 1:22:55
  by, by the U.S. through Fauci.
• 1:22:58
  What programs existed?
• 1:23:01
  What agencies funded them?
• 1:23:03
  What lab accidents occurred?
• 1:23:05
  What oversight applied to classified programs evade normal
• 1:23:10
  public health review?
• 1:23:12
  Were you creating weapons in Ukraine?
• 1:23:17
  Were you funding it?
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  And is the work continuing today?
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  You know, would jailing, I mean, what do
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  we want?
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  Truth or punishment?
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  Would jailing Fauci produce less truth?
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  A contempt prosecution might punish his defiance, satisfy
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  public anger, demonstrate the authority of Congress.
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  We're powerful.
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  Or deter future witnesses from just pleading the
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  fifth, but it wouldn't reveal the missing emails,
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  the funding decisions, who authored the policy, any
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  scientific doubt, any records kept outside of the
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  government.
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  The role of the pharmaceutical companies themselves, excuse
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  me, the role of intelligence agencies, or the
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  complete decision-making chain.
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  So if Congress offered some kind of carefully
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  defined immunity in exchange for his full testimony,
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  complete documents, identification of participants, and access to
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  devices and accounts and personal email and deleted
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  records and policy decisions and future, you know,
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  protections of some sort, immunity isn't a forgiveness.
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  Immunity is an investigative purchase.
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  The only question is whether the truth that
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  you're purchasing through this immunity is more valuable
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  than the prosecution surrendered.
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  Fauci might've committed some pretty serious wrongdoing, and
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  immunity would allow him to avoid punishment.
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  His testimony is going to be self-serving.
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  He's going to claim that he has male
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  memory failures.
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  He may shift the blame to dead people
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  or unavailable people.
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  And Iran-Contra showed exactly how congressional immunity
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  will complicate any sort of later prosecution.
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  So the public would see immunity as another
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  escape for the elite.
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  And then don't grant it cheaply.
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  You could require some stuff.
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  There's been errors in this place all along.
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  The committee wants to publicly declare Fauci guilty,
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  promise to imprison him, obtain his testimony, and
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  use that testimony to prosecute him.
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  If the prosecution is the priority, accept that
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  he would remain silent.
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  If truth is the priority, remove the basis
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  for silence and compel his testimony.
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  That's all I got to tell you.
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• 1:26:02
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