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- 0:02Speaker 1: The following He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot
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- 0:13Speaker 1: Cowboys storyline with Nick Eatman.
- 0:21Speaker 2: What is up? Welcome to Cowboys storyline. It is Tuesday,
- 0:25Speaker 2: February sixth. Happy anniversary to my wife Julie. She is
- 0:31Speaker 2: a this is she watches a show sometimes when she
- 0:34Speaker 2: has time, and so she'll be watching now. I want
- 0:36Speaker 2: to say happy anniversary to her. But good stuff going
- 0:40Speaker 2: on here. We got obviously in the NFL world's thinking
- 0:44Speaker 2: about Super Bowl and all that, and Cowboys and a
- 0:47Speaker 2: lot of other teams thinking about how to get better
- 0:49Speaker 2: and filling out personnel and coaching staff and all that.
- 0:53Speaker 2: We obviously have the open defensive coordinator position since the
- 0:57Speaker 2: last show we did, Dan Quinn is now accepted the
- 1:00Speaker 2: position with the Washington Commandagers as head coach. He took
- 1:03Speaker 2: the final job that was open. And what that does is,
- 1:07Speaker 2: you know, it creates an opening, obviously for a defensive coordinator.
- 1:10Speaker 2: But you know, I think the Cowboys were somewhat prepared.
- 1:14Speaker 2: Different candidates have been interviewed here reportedly, but they're not
- 1:20Speaker 2: just coming out announcing it. But Ron Rivera, Mike Zimmer
- 1:25Speaker 2: Ad and Dirty, who the defensive line coach has has
- 1:29Speaker 2: apparently interviewed as well. So those are three that that
- 1:33Speaker 2: we kind of know of for sure, and we'll see
- 1:35Speaker 2: I would be surprised if this thing goes on past
- 1:39Speaker 2: this weekend. I would think the Cowboys would probably have
- 1:41Speaker 2: a new defensive coordinator because then, you know, it trickles
- 1:45Speaker 2: down from there. You know, you got to get the coordinator,
- 1:47Speaker 2: they get position coaches. You know, we're going to get
- 1:50Speaker 2: his his staff, his guys, keep the guys that are here.
- 1:53Speaker 2: So it's a whole process to kind of get this
- 1:56Speaker 2: thing going. So it'll be interesting to see kind of
- 1:59Speaker 2: how how it all shakes out. I'm sure that'll be
- 2:01Speaker 2: some of the questions that we hear from you guys
- 2:04Speaker 2: want to talk about that and maybe have some some
- 2:08Speaker 2: options as well. All right, let's go to the callers
- 2:11Speaker 2: here we got we'll start it off. Eight eight eight
- 2:13Speaker 2: eight five five two two nine seven is the number.
- 2:16Speaker 2: I know it by heart. I'm sure you guys probably
- 2:18Speaker 2: know it as well. Espress the ones that say they
- 2:20Speaker 2: call one hundred and fifty times in a row. And
- 2:23Speaker 2: I did a little stats and research on that. I'll
- 2:26Speaker 2: get to that later.
- 2:26Speaker 3: On.
- 2:27Speaker 2: I came up with some with some fun stuff on
- 2:30Speaker 2: doing some research on the callers that we've had on
- 2:33Speaker 2: this show. But all right, let's start it off. We
- 2:36Speaker 2: got Paul. He's in Vancouver, Canada. Are you doing, Hey, Paul,
- 2:41Speaker 2: how are you good?
- 2:43Speaker 3: Thank you?
- 2:43Speaker 4: First time caller?
- 2:44Speaker 2: All right there put you in.
- 2:48Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciate that. A couple of months ago, you
- 2:53Speaker 4: made a reference on your show that you met a
- 2:55Speaker 4: fan in Charlotte and you signed a book.
- 2:57Speaker 3: That was me.
- 2:57Speaker 4: So I appreciate that, and you guys Are and Chris
- 3:00Speaker 4: are always so gracious, So thank you so much.
- 3:03Speaker 2: I don't I don't remember you saying you were from Canada,
- 3:08Speaker 2: and I don't remember that that part. But then again,
- 3:10Speaker 2: that could have been some of the beverages that were
- 3:13Speaker 2: down there.
- 3:13Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 3:14Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't remember you mentioning that. That's awesome,
- 3:17Speaker 2: and yeah, I think you like paid for our.
- 3:19Speaker 3: Food right any time.
- 3:21Speaker 4: It's always a pleasure, man.
- 3:24Speaker 2: That was pretty awesome.
- 3:26Speaker 4: Yeah, you get a color a few weeks ago saying that
- 3:29Speaker 4: I take a big impact on people. You've definitely done
- 3:32Speaker 4: that on me. So I appreciate it, and it's always
- 3:35Speaker 4: an honor and.
- 3:35Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we we were. We were at the
- 3:40Speaker 2: hotel bar there and it was Saturday night and like,
- 3:43Speaker 2: didn't you have a game on your phone? And we
- 3:46Speaker 2: had a couple of games going. We were watching like
- 3:48Speaker 2: three or four college football games just on our own
- 3:50Speaker 2: phone that they were playing something else, you know, at
- 3:53Speaker 2: the real TV, and like, nah, we got to get
- 3:56Speaker 2: our own. So we had three or four different games
- 3:58Speaker 2: going on.
- 4:00Speaker 4: Correctly, Yeah, that was fun to watch involved with you.
- 4:02Speaker 4: I also, happy anniversary to you.
- 4:05Speaker 2: What's what you got, Paul?
- 4:08Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if you're still doing this.
- 4:09Speaker 4: So random boy, A lot of mom want to say
- 4:11Speaker 4: Keith Davis is one of my favorite. One of yours too,
- 4:16Speaker 4: Random Rustler, I'm going to say, Rick rude him, he's
- 4:18Speaker 4: the best. Heel maydies him and Bob Heenan doing their things,
- 4:21Speaker 4: so they were great and my favorite all time cowboy
- 4:24Speaker 4: Tyren Smith. So you don't usually get a lot of
- 4:26Speaker 4: current ones on the air, So why.
- 4:30Speaker 2: Is he your favorite of all time? I'm curious.
- 4:33Speaker 4: And I was an offensive lineman in high school in
- 4:35Speaker 4: college and so like I always felt like those Romo
- 4:40Speaker 4: days that we needed to draft more offensive lineman high
- 4:42Speaker 4: and when we finally got him. I'm like, finally and
- 4:46Speaker 4: he just became my guy. And and you know he
- 4:48Speaker 4: was he had a lot of questions, like in college
- 4:50Speaker 4: because he was about to eighty when he came out,
- 4:52Speaker 4: and you know that everybody thought Matthews was the better
- 4:55Speaker 4: tackle at USC. So he proved that wrong. So he
- 4:58Speaker 4: put a lot of doubters wrong. And he's he's just
- 4:59Speaker 4: been man and keep him leak. So I don't care
- 5:01Speaker 4: what anybride was about that.
- 5:03Speaker 2: Well, I mean, he had a good year. I mean,
- 5:05Speaker 2: he had a good season this year, and when he
- 5:07Speaker 2: was out there healthy, he played well and he was
- 5:10Speaker 2: you know, he was a second team I think All Pro,
- 5:13Speaker 2: and he had a really good season and he played
- 5:15Speaker 2: as many games as Tyler Smith did, so you know,
- 5:18Speaker 2: from an injury standpoint, and I thought that they oftense
- 5:21Speaker 2: functioned well when he was out there.
- 5:24Speaker 4: Yeah, then hopefully we can bring him back real quick.
- 5:27Speaker 4: I know you have other calls to get to, so
- 5:30Speaker 4: I kind of want to talk about so all in approach.
- 5:32Speaker 4: So I kind of think it's a myth to rebuild
- 5:34Speaker 4: in this league because look what Houston did and other
- 5:36Speaker 4: teams in the past, even Philadelphia five six years ago,
- 5:38Speaker 4: when they made those trades for Carson went. So I
- 5:41Speaker 4: think as long as Will mclag is here, you can
- 5:43Speaker 4: rebuild your roster rather quickly. And just my other point is,
- 5:49Speaker 4: I think if I really hope we can keep galluping pp,
- 5:53Speaker 4: but if we don't get those two guys back, then
- 5:56Speaker 4: we don't. We're really lacking some players at the skill position,
- 5:58Speaker 4: so that could be hard because we need linebackers and
- 6:02Speaker 4: line them so and you know, I hope you can
- 6:05Speaker 4: touch a little bit of defensive end because we have
- 6:07Speaker 4: a lot of free and service that golf and Tank
- 6:11Speaker 4: have one year left, so that might be something we
- 6:13Speaker 4: have to leave out last. So listen off the air,
- 6:16Speaker 4: and thank you so much and hope to see you again.
- 6:18Speaker 2: All right, thank you, Paul, appreciate that. Thank you for
- 6:21Speaker 2: dinner that night in Charlotte. It was was a good time.
- 6:24Speaker 2: It's good. He was seeking some autographs, but not not
- 6:28Speaker 2: not like really hustling, you know for it. I think
- 6:30Speaker 2: you were kind of there like we'll see, but there's
- 6:32Speaker 2: really more there to catch the vibes of the team
- 6:35Speaker 2: being there. Good questions on on the defense too, And
- 6:38Speaker 2: you said that about defensive line, defensive end, you know,
- 6:42Speaker 2: I do think the cowboy is gonna have to make
- 6:44Speaker 2: decisions on that. Like, and it kind of starts with
- 6:47Speaker 2: all right, Micah is the guy, right, I mean, he's
- 6:50Speaker 2: gonna be here, and I don't think that there's any
- 6:53Speaker 2: reason why you wouldn't. They're gonna, you know, they could
- 6:56Speaker 2: sign him to a deal this year. They could, they
- 6:58Speaker 2: could wait until next season or whatever. But you know,
- 7:00Speaker 2: when you're looking at your defensive ends. And also it
- 7:03Speaker 2: starts with the coordinator too. I mean, I doubt the
- 7:05Speaker 2: coordinator is going to come in and say, I'm just
- 7:07Speaker 2: putting you at linebacker. I don't see that happening. I
- 7:11Speaker 2: see him playing mostly defensive end. But that does kind
- 7:15Speaker 2: of dictate what you do from there. And and you
- 7:17Speaker 2: know these guys that you mentioned Fallers, you know, unrestricted,
- 7:22Speaker 2: Dorant Armstrong was unrestricted, and so you know Gohlsten, like
- 7:27Speaker 2: you said, have he has another year. But you know
- 7:30Speaker 2: those guys right there, they have to be fits for
- 7:33Speaker 2: this defense and let's see what happens there. You know,
- 7:37Speaker 2: I would imagine a guy like Fowler, who's played for
- 7:40Speaker 2: Dan Quinn in Atlanta and in Dallas, might be a
- 7:43Speaker 2: guy that could be, you know, on the move. To
- 7:46Speaker 2: Washington if the Cowboys don't resign him, or maybe Dorant's
- 7:49Speaker 2: armstrong as well. So again it's a domino effect that
- 7:52Speaker 2: starts with hiring the guy, hiring your defensive coordinator, then
- 7:55Speaker 2: figuring out from there what you're gonna do and your
- 7:57Speaker 2: defensive line coach and just what your personnel is going
- 7:59Speaker 2: to look like and what your scheme's going to look like.
- 8:01Speaker 2: So hard to answer some of those questions until you
- 8:04Speaker 2: kind of get the coordinator in place, but not too
- 8:06Speaker 2: early to be looking at these pieces and going all right,
- 8:09Speaker 2: who could come back and who could be you know,
- 8:12Speaker 2: moving on to it to other teams. So all right,
- 8:14Speaker 2: let's go to Bruce. He's in Philly.
- 8:16Speaker 5: Bruce, Hey, Nick, what's up man? A pleasure to be
- 8:19Speaker 5: on with you?
- 8:20Speaker 2: All right? Man? How you doing?
- 8:21Speaker 5: You forget?
- 8:22Speaker 3: Not bad?
- 8:22Speaker 5: Not bad? Things are tough up here. They are down
- 8:26Speaker 5: there for the football team of my hometown. But I'm
- 8:29Speaker 5: a huge Cowboys fan. And how did that happen? Because
- 8:33Speaker 5: I had a brother who was a huge Steelers fan
- 8:37Speaker 5: who was ten years older than me. First football game
- 8:40Speaker 5: I ever saw was a Cowboys Steelers super Bowl back
- 8:44Speaker 5: in nineteen seventy nine, and just to antagonize him. I
- 8:48Speaker 5: rooted for the Cowboys. But what made a stick was
- 8:51Speaker 5: and you probably to remember this because I'm boss fifty
- 8:54Speaker 5: years old. I am fifty, but remember the electric football game? Yeah,
- 9:01Speaker 5: so it used to it would come when you would
- 9:04Speaker 5: buy it. It would only come with the Super Bowl team. Okay,
- 9:07Speaker 5: and remember you used to have to paint.
- 9:09Speaker 2: The paint the guys, guys, And.
- 9:11Speaker 5: That's where it hooked. Making a little stars.
- 9:14Speaker 2: What what did you use as the football? Because we
- 9:17Speaker 2: used a little napkin rolled up like a little nab,
- 9:20Speaker 2: you know, like I remember my dad having a piece
- 9:23Speaker 2: of like a paper towel and made that as the football.
- 9:26Speaker 5: But you basically manthing anything under the arm.
- 9:32Speaker 2: It was, I mean it was awesome and yet terrible.
- 9:38Speaker 2: I mean when you think when you think about you
- 9:40Speaker 2: got your guys all lined up, you painted them, you
- 9:43Speaker 2: plug it in or hit hit you know, on and
- 9:46Speaker 2: then just vibrating noise and then they just go in
- 9:50Speaker 2: any direction ever and it's like it's okay, you know.
- 9:54Speaker 5: But unless you had those special bases where they just
- 9:57Speaker 5: went straight made fast.
- 9:59Speaker 2: The there's a lot of people listening that are like,
- 10:02Speaker 2: what in the hell are they talking about? Yeah, but
- 10:05Speaker 2: I did have that. I did have that. We had
- 10:07Speaker 2: the little Man, we painted them. I remember I had
- 10:09Speaker 2: a thirty three door set.
- 10:11Speaker 3: You know.
- 10:11Speaker 5: He was, oh yeah, you had to put the numbers
- 10:14Speaker 5: on the people. Things were so small.
- 10:16Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit, it'd.
- 10:17Speaker 5: Be hard to use.
- 10:19Speaker 2: Uh yeah, good say, but uh.
- 10:22Speaker 5: That's uh so favorite cowboy, of course it is Darren
- 10:24Speaker 5: Woodson her last week. Always loved when he's on, he's
- 10:27Speaker 5: going to get in. I really believe that. And he's
- 10:30Speaker 5: more than deserving. And I say favored because people were
- 10:34Speaker 5: really he was such a revolutionary safety, one of really
- 10:37Speaker 5: the first safeties who killed cover wide receivers. He just
- 10:40Speaker 5: did everything so well. I don't remember him having really
- 10:44Speaker 5: any weakness in his game at all. So let's hope
- 10:46Speaker 5: he gets in. I wanted to talk about just I
- 10:51Speaker 5: think sometimes we get caught up it over analyzing everything
- 10:55Speaker 5: because when you look at the chiefs, if that was
- 10:58Speaker 5: if Kansas City was Dallas, right, people talking them, Oh
- 11:02Speaker 5: my god, you know Lamar Hunt or the sun. Now,
- 11:05Speaker 5: I forget his first thing. But they didn't go out
- 11:07Speaker 5: and get a wide receiver. They didn't go out and
- 11:10Speaker 5: get this. They didn't do that. I mean think of
- 11:12Speaker 5: all the holes that the Chiefs the posed that we
- 11:15Speaker 5: had during the regular season, but here they are. So
- 11:18Speaker 5: I think when we look at the Cowboys, they are
- 11:21Speaker 5: a really good team. They've won twelve games here the
- 11:24Speaker 5: last three. People talk about Jerry well, he's constructed a
- 11:27Speaker 5: great roster, and I think when people when they talk
- 11:30Speaker 5: to him, he tells you exactly what he thinks it's
- 11:33Speaker 5: going to take. And he said, Dak Prescott will take
- 11:36Speaker 5: us as far as we will go. And I think,
- 11:40Speaker 5: when I think about greatness, right, I got so I
- 11:43Speaker 5: saw the holes this year really early on, and I
- 11:47Speaker 5: thought it was like almost like organizational my practice when
- 11:50Speaker 5: they had it was unfair for me as a fan
- 11:53Speaker 5: watching a rookie safety be put into a linebacker role
- 11:58Speaker 5: and you're expect them to play great, and you saw
- 12:02Speaker 5: show up against really good teams, and especially like that
- 12:06Speaker 5: Buffalo game, and I thought about it. I'm like, you know,
- 12:10Speaker 5: if I was a parent and took my kids to
- 12:12Speaker 5: see this, that really disappointed me because in those those
- 12:16Speaker 5: games where the Cowboys really you want to see them
- 12:19Speaker 5: put their character, their grit, and their toughness on display,
- 12:23Speaker 5: it seemed like against really good competition, the Miami game aside,
- 12:28Speaker 5: but they really just like if they really being competed
- 12:31Speaker 5: hard against, sometimes they seem to fold up. You can
- 12:34Speaker 5: say that lost team was charged his Game two. They
- 12:37Speaker 5: showed a lot of grit. But I really want to
- 12:40Speaker 5: see the team do something different next year in the
- 12:44Speaker 5: playoffs when it comes around playoff time, because it's gotta
- 12:48Speaker 5: be to me. And I know that some people downplay
- 12:51Speaker 5: the sports psychology of it, and I heard of one
- 12:53Speaker 5: caller talk about that with Dak, but I think that
- 12:56Speaker 5: it is something to the Cowboys.
- 13:00Speaker 2: What what is your question? Do you have a question
- 13:02Speaker 2: or main comment here?
- 13:05Speaker 5: My question is what do you think that the team
- 13:07Speaker 5: could do? And I think it is drastically around playoff
- 13:12Speaker 5: time because I think they should sequestered the team. Do
- 13:14Speaker 5: you think they should do something different, totally different and
- 13:18Speaker 5: totally off the wall during playoff time to get this
- 13:21Speaker 5: team to respond better from a mental aspect.
- 13:26Speaker 2: Good question? Okay, thanks, thanks Bruce, appreciate the call. Uh.
- 13:31Speaker 2: I didn't mean to cut you off, But that's one
- 13:33Speaker 2: thing I'm going to try to do a little bit
- 13:35Speaker 2: more of and try to try to move some people
- 13:37Speaker 2: along here a little bit. Uh, But that that's a
- 13:41Speaker 2: good question. I could see. Coaches are superstitious and they're
- 13:46Speaker 2: old school. So number one, they've got to focus on
- 13:49Speaker 2: getting to the playoffs. That that's the that's the key.
- 13:52Speaker 2: And I know that that may not be your, you know,
- 13:54Speaker 2: the fans goal, but but it's got to be the goal.
- 13:57Speaker 2: I mean, it has to be. It has to be
- 13:59Speaker 2: the goal to make it to the playoffs. Look at
- 14:01Speaker 2: the schedule. The schedule looks like it could be tougher.
- 14:05Speaker 2: I'm never one that says, oh, it's going to be
- 14:07Speaker 2: harder and all that stuff. I used to never put
- 14:09Speaker 2: a lot of stock in first play schedule because we're
- 14:11Speaker 2: talking about only two games. But now you're talking about
- 14:14Speaker 2: three games, three games where you have to play somebody's
- 14:17Speaker 2: number one and that and that this year is Detroit,
- 14:21Speaker 2: San Francisco, and I believe Houston. Those are the three
- 14:26Speaker 2: number one, you know teams that you're playing because of
- 14:29Speaker 2: the schedule. You're already going to play Baltimore, and you're
- 14:32Speaker 2: already going to play the other division on I guess
- 14:36Speaker 2: that would be the North, I mean, I'm sorry, the
- 14:40Speaker 2: South of the NFC, which it would be Tampa. So
- 14:43Speaker 2: you're already gonna play them. But My point is it's
- 14:46Speaker 2: got to get there, got to get to the playoffs,
- 14:47Speaker 2: number one. Switching it up. Sure, you know, like what
- 14:53Speaker 2: but but that's the thing. But remember what happened last
- 14:59Speaker 2: last week, two weeks ago, whatever that was. I mean,
- 15:02Speaker 2: the Cowboys are getting criticized because they did switch it up.
- 15:05Speaker 2: They did try to run the ball a little bit
- 15:07Speaker 2: more early in the game when they've gotten here by passing.
- 15:11Speaker 2: They did switch their defense and play a lot more
- 15:14Speaker 2: zone than they've played all year long, and they got torched.
- 15:18Speaker 2: Was that because of an injury? I don't know. The
- 15:20Speaker 2: defense coordinators gone, But the point is is they did
- 15:23Speaker 2: switch things up. Now, if you're talking about hotels and
- 15:27Speaker 2: how they travel and the timing of the meetings and
- 15:30Speaker 2: stuff like that, maybe you know, I don't know if
- 15:33Speaker 2: that's something that you're referring to, but but I think
- 15:36Speaker 2: you know it's there's two sides to it. You can say, hey,
- 15:41Speaker 2: you know, you dance with the girl that you know,
- 15:43Speaker 2: you know that that that you went with, you know,
- 15:46Speaker 2: or just totally have a different mindset and shake things up.
- 15:50Speaker 2: I would think you tried to do a little bit
- 15:52Speaker 2: of balance of both, you know, and and you got
- 15:56Speaker 2: it The problem is, though, is that this team knows
- 16:00Speaker 2: that things are different, you know, they already know that
- 16:02Speaker 2: they feel it, you know, and that the pressure is enormous.
- 16:06Speaker 2: So I would think most coaches would say, let's try
- 16:10Speaker 2: to keep it as basic as possible and not play
- 16:12Speaker 2: into all this that everything is different, because that's when
- 16:15Speaker 2: you start doing that, that's when you start maybe collapsing
- 16:18Speaker 2: under the pressure. I don't know if that's if that's
- 16:20Speaker 2: the case, So I don't know if I have a
- 16:22Speaker 2: good answer for you. I mean, it's not a bad thought,
- 16:25Speaker 2: but the first things first, Cowboy's got to figure out
- 16:27Speaker 2: how to get back to the playoffs, and then from
- 16:29Speaker 2: there they'll they'll they'll figure it out. All right. Let's
- 16:32Speaker 2: go to a text question here. This is Kyle he's
- 16:35Speaker 2: in East Brunswick, New Jersey. Which Cowboy rookie from the
- 16:38Speaker 2: twenty twenty three class do you expect the biggest impact
- 16:42Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four. That's a good question. I mean,
- 16:46Speaker 2: the easy answer there is probably overshown just because you
- 16:52Speaker 2: need linebacker help. He was hurt. You think he's going
- 16:56Speaker 2: to find a role in there. His attitude seems great,
- 17:00Speaker 2: it's going to be ready to go I already like
- 17:03Speaker 2: kind of what I've seen from him. I mean, he
- 17:04Speaker 2: should be doing a lot of things in the offseason
- 17:06Speaker 2: and then training camp. I would think he'll be ready.
- 17:08Speaker 2: So overshown is an easy answer there. But as for
- 17:13Speaker 2: a guy that's making more of a leap, you know
- 17:15Speaker 2: from what we saw, I mean, at some point I'd
- 17:19Speaker 2: like to see Junior Fojoko do something. You know, he
- 17:21Speaker 2: didn't really do anything at all. Uh, he's kind of
- 17:24Speaker 2: a kind of forgotten guy. I think Austin richards Will
- 17:27Speaker 2: will have a chance to do some things. But you know,
- 17:30Speaker 2: I think really what you're asking is is who's going
- 17:32Speaker 2: to do better between Mazzie Smith and Schoonmaker first and
- 17:35Speaker 2: second round, and and I would I would think I
- 17:39Speaker 2: would think Schoonmaker is going to be a pretty good player,
- 17:42Speaker 2: I really do, especially if Ferguson continues the route that
- 17:46Speaker 2: he's on. I think I think Schoonmaker is also gonna
- 17:49Speaker 2: going to get some opportunities these confidence is going to
- 17:51Speaker 2: continue to grow, He's going to be bigger, stronger, going
- 17:54Speaker 2: to be a really good blocker. I think I think
- 17:57Speaker 2: Scoonmaker is gonna going to have a chance to be
- 17:59Speaker 2: a really nice player. And so he would be a
- 18:02Speaker 2: guy that I would pick there. All right, let's go
- 18:04Speaker 2: to Travis in San Antonio.
- 18:08Speaker 6: Hey, Nick, how's it going good?
- 18:10Speaker 2: How you doing? Travis?
- 18:11Speaker 6: Pretty good? Can't complain?
- 18:13Speaker 7: All right?
- 18:14Speaker 2: I just wanted to.
- 18:16Speaker 6: I don't think I called last week, but just wanted
- 18:18Speaker 6: to bring up something. And we don't have to get
- 18:19Speaker 6: into it, because obviously I respect like your position with
- 18:23Speaker 6: the team and whatnot. But the whole Stephen Jones draft story,
- 18:26Speaker 6: whether it's true not true, I'm just bringing it up
- 18:29Speaker 6: just for context of my question. I tend to I
- 18:34Speaker 6: just tend to believe that something like that could be true,
- 18:38Speaker 6: I guess is the way I'll say it, because my issue,
- 18:42Speaker 6: you know, with them in the past hasn't necessarily been
- 18:44Speaker 6: drafting itself, but maybe the self scouting post draft, meaning
- 18:48Speaker 6: like looking at the roster and going, hey, is this
- 18:51Speaker 6: guy better than our guy? Or is this guy better
- 18:53Speaker 6: than what we have? And are we willing to upgrade it?
- 18:56Speaker 6: And I think a lot of times we've heard that,
- 18:58Speaker 6: you know, there were so many memes created with Stephen
- 19:00Speaker 6: Jones saying, you know, we like our guys, we like
- 19:02Speaker 6: our guys, and I do think somewhat they kind of
- 19:05Speaker 6: rely on that because I mean, obviously every team wants
- 19:08Speaker 6: to see their draft picks pan out because it makes you,
- 19:11Speaker 6: It makes them look smart, right, it makes you look better.
- 19:15Speaker 2: But I do.
- 19:15Speaker 6: Think they've maybe been a little bit too hesitant to go,
- 19:19Speaker 6: you know, we can upgrade, like this guy hasn't been
- 19:22Speaker 6: as good as we want him to be in case
- 19:24Speaker 6: in point, like I'm the Mazi guy, like you were
- 19:26Speaker 6: just talking about, I can't sit there and say this year,
- 19:30Speaker 6: you know, let's not go get a Matavik or go
- 19:32Speaker 6: get DJ Reader to upgrade the run defense. I'm not
- 19:35Speaker 6: giving up on Mazi, but that doesn't mean you look
- 19:38Speaker 6: at it and just go, we'll just roll with it
- 19:40Speaker 6: next like we'll just you know, he might work, he
- 19:42Speaker 6: might be better. So I just want to see what
- 19:45Speaker 6: you thought about that, because you know, cornerback has been
- 19:48Speaker 6: us the last two years in a row. And I
- 19:49Speaker 6: know I called earlier in the season about cornerback and
- 19:53Speaker 6: Jerry saying at the trade deadline, you know, we feel
- 19:56Speaker 6: like our team is good. We like where our team
- 19:57Speaker 6: is at. Is obviously not true, because if you didn't
- 20:01Speaker 6: want to play in nash On right like they didn't,
- 20:03Speaker 6: then you didn't feel good about your fourth corner and
- 20:05Speaker 6: losing Gilmore having changed the defense really kind of upset
- 20:10Speaker 6: what they wanted to do. So I just want to
- 20:11Speaker 6: see what you.
- 20:11Speaker 3: Thought about that great week.
- 20:12Speaker 2: All right, thank you? You know, but a lot of
- 20:16Speaker 2: times though you talk about you know, you can criticize
- 20:20Speaker 2: the Cowboys for not making moves at the deadline and
- 20:22Speaker 2: things like that, but you know, you don't always know
- 20:26Speaker 2: what's on the other end of the call. You don't,
- 20:29Speaker 2: I mean, you don't. You don't know. There's a reason
- 20:31Speaker 2: why nobody traded for Derrick Henry even though everybody thought
- 20:35Speaker 2: he was available. Well maybe he was at the right
- 20:38Speaker 2: price for Tennessee, but it was not anyone's price that
- 20:41Speaker 2: they wanted to go to. And so same with a corner.
- 20:44Speaker 2: I mean, who has a lot of corners that you're
- 20:47Speaker 2: just like, all right, we're good here. I mean, it's
- 20:50Speaker 2: going to cost you something. And if it's a team
- 20:52Speaker 2: that's not going to go anywhere, that means they probably
- 20:55Speaker 2: are going to have a high draft pick, or they
- 20:56Speaker 2: need draft picks. They need to get better, so they'll
- 20:58Speaker 2: trade a piece and they try to get you know.
- 21:00Speaker 2: So it's it's rare when you think about how many trades.
- 21:04Speaker 2: There's a lot more trades than there used to be,
- 21:05Speaker 2: but I bet you there's still way way less trades
- 21:08Speaker 2: that ever get executed than they actually they actually discussed.
- 21:13Speaker 2: You know, think about it, Just think about it in
- 21:15Speaker 2: your fantasy football league. You know, how many trades do
- 21:19Speaker 2: you really make that it that the rest of the
- 21:21Speaker 2: league's like, oh, good trade, good trade for both, and
- 21:24Speaker 2: somebody's getting fleeced one way or another. It just depends
- 21:27Speaker 2: on how much you can deal with it. So I
- 21:29Speaker 2: say that about trades, just because they don't make it
- 21:31Speaker 2: trades doesn't me they're not trying. Doesn't mean that they're
- 21:33Speaker 2: they're satisfied with everything they have. It's just who's out there.
- 21:36Speaker 2: I mean, there's not a lot of cornerbacks that just
- 21:38Speaker 2: out there ready to go, ready to play. It's it's
- 21:40Speaker 2: it's rare. And then I mentioned that last week I
- 21:43Speaker 2: got asked a little bit about the Stephen Jones thaying,
- 21:45Speaker 2: I just think that's ridiculous. It's ridiculous, it really is.
- 21:48Speaker 2: And so you don't know what was said, You don't
- 21:50Speaker 2: really know. You don't know what was said on the
- 21:52Speaker 2: other end. And just because he again I don't even
- 21:55Speaker 2: know it I don't even know if that's that's that's
- 21:58Speaker 2: true at all, anything close to that's being true. Again,
- 22:00Speaker 2: I wasn't there. I'm not going to say that, you know,
- 22:02Speaker 2: yes or no, But that seems pretty ridiculous too, that
- 22:06Speaker 2: that would would happen. So you know, that's just that's
- 22:11Speaker 2: just to me jumping on bandwagon saying all right, here's
- 22:14Speaker 2: the problem that that didn't I'm just gonna say that
- 22:16Speaker 2: didn't happen. I think I'm pretty confident in that there's
- 22:21Speaker 2: a lot of reasons why you could respond a certain way.
- 22:24Speaker 2: And if you've ever been in the war room, and
- 22:25Speaker 2: I have a long time ago, I don't. I don't.
- 22:28Speaker 2: I'm not in there now, but I have been in
- 22:29Speaker 2: there before, and it's it's chaotic. Okay, there's a lot happening.
- 22:33Speaker 2: So just because you didn't hear a certain thing, let's
- 22:36Speaker 2: don't jump to conclusions about what it means for the team.
- 22:39Speaker 2: It's really kind of stupid. All right, let's go and Joe,
- 22:43Speaker 2: Joe and Stamford Hey in the vehicle again.
- 22:47Speaker 7: So I didn't catch a lot of what was said
- 22:49Speaker 7: that got my seatbelt on today, though, So we're going
- 22:52Speaker 7: to go.
- 22:53Speaker 2: Good. That's that's always good, good way to get a
- 22:55Speaker 2: good way to start there. You never know. I actually no,
- 22:58Speaker 2: I actually know some people I know, uh a patrol
- 23:01Speaker 2: officer there in that area of Stanford and Abilene's will
- 23:04Speaker 2: be careful, all right. They don't play around.
- 23:07Speaker 7: No, they don't, especially in Joe County. You ain't lying
- 23:10Speaker 7: about that. So first of all, I want to say,
- 23:13Speaker 7: have the anniversary. You know, I've known your wife since
- 23:16Speaker 7: the late eighties that I can remember, and I know
- 23:18Speaker 7: that she is beautiful and kind and you are a
- 23:21Speaker 7: lucky man.
- 23:22Speaker 2: Thank you, I am I thank you, thank you.
- 23:26Speaker 7: So I wanted to talk about Mike Simmer. I don't
- 23:30Speaker 7: think the Cowboys could make a better choice. You know,
- 23:33Speaker 7: some people you know want to contrast his style with
- 23:37Speaker 7: Dan Quinn's, and I would say there definitely is a
- 23:39Speaker 7: difference in style. And I think X's and those wives
- 23:43Speaker 7: they probably are comparable as far as their quality and experience.
- 23:47Speaker 7: But you know, the hard nos attitude that Mike Simmer
- 23:51Speaker 7: would bring to this team I think is exactly what's needed. Second,
- 23:56Speaker 7: I want to say rooting for Darren Woodson this weekend
- 23:59Speaker 7: and the Super Bowl.
- 24:01Speaker 2: Brother all right, thank you so much. Joe appreciate that.
- 24:04Speaker 2: Ah man, We're all fingers crossed on on Baron Woodson
- 24:08Speaker 2: making it this year. And I haven't really looked at
- 24:13Speaker 2: all of the people, all of the class and the finalists.
- 24:17Speaker 2: It didn't seem like a really strong class. And that
- 24:23Speaker 2: kind of scares me actually a little bit, because I
- 24:27Speaker 2: feel like there's an order, a pecking order that I
- 24:31Speaker 2: feel like, and I've kind of heard this somewhat that
- 24:34Speaker 2: the voters, the Hall of Fame voters feel like they've
- 24:37Speaker 2: made some mistakes over the years, and and they they
- 24:40Speaker 2: and one of the reasons that they feel that way
- 24:43Speaker 2: is that they let a lot of guys in first ballot,
- 24:46Speaker 2: and by doing that, by making them first ballot, it's
- 24:49Speaker 2: pushed a lot of other players by the wayside. And
- 24:52Speaker 2: then they've got some guys that are senior, you know,
- 24:54Speaker 2: you know, the senior level, and now that that have
- 24:57Speaker 2: that are still you know, it's been twenty five, thirty
- 24:59Speaker 2: years or what whatever. So I feel like they're trying
- 25:02Speaker 2: to change that up a little bit. And that was
- 25:05Speaker 2: evident a couple of years ago with the Marcus Ware's class.
- 25:08Speaker 2: I mean, you you you gotta be kidding me that
- 25:10Speaker 2: that he wasn't a first ballot, but I think that
- 25:12Speaker 2: the number one the voters are really really trying to
- 25:16Speaker 2: make it. I mean, just it's it's got to be
- 25:20Speaker 2: very rare to be a first ballot Hall of Famer.
- 25:22Speaker 2: Now they're trying to make that, uh, you know, a
- 25:26Speaker 2: very exclusive group. But by doing that, I think, I
- 25:30Speaker 2: think it's pushed some players you know, back now, and
- 25:33Speaker 2: so they're trying to kind of change that up. So
- 25:36Speaker 2: we'll see if it's if it's what he's turned. If
- 25:38Speaker 2: it's not, then it'll be next year. If it's not,
- 25:40Speaker 2: it'll be there. I think it's gonna happen. I just
- 25:42Speaker 2: I hope it's this year because it would be awesome
- 25:45Speaker 2: if that was the case. Mike Zimmer was the first
- 25:47Speaker 2: part of your question, and that would be different if
- 25:51Speaker 2: he was here. It would be different than what these
- 25:53Speaker 2: players are used to. I mean, dan Quinn, he gets
- 25:57Speaker 2: after it, but I think in a different way. I
- 25:59Speaker 2: think he's more of a a you know, kind of
- 26:01Speaker 2: a buddy to the to these guys. I mean Parsons,
- 26:04Speaker 2: Michael Parsons called him an uncle, you know the other day.
- 26:08Speaker 2: But I don't think anyone's called that about Mike Zimmer.
- 26:10Speaker 2: I don't think he's viewed that way. Uh, he's he's
- 26:13Speaker 2: he'll get after you big time and not really worried
- 26:17Speaker 2: about your feelings. Old school coach, and it's not old
- 26:22Speaker 2: school anymore, you know, so you kind of wonder how
- 26:25Speaker 2: how that that would work. But I thought what Darren
- 26:28Speaker 2: Woodson said the other day about one of the worst things.
- 26:31Speaker 2: It was good for him, but it was one of
- 26:32Speaker 2: the worst things he experienced was going through every bad
- 26:35Speaker 2: play he had for a season, letting Zimmer go through
- 26:38Speaker 2: it with him. You know, I thought that that was
- 26:40Speaker 2: But that's that's what you know, that's what you need.
- 26:43Speaker 2: You need this constructive criticism to the highest level. And
- 26:47Speaker 2: so even even for the really best players, you know,
- 26:50Speaker 2: that needs to happen. That needs to happen with Michael
- 26:52Speaker 2: Parsons this year, and needs to happen with with Tank Lawrence,
- 26:55Speaker 2: with you know, with the Deron Bland. You know, we're
- 26:58Speaker 2: talking about pro bowler in front of my guys that
- 27:00Speaker 2: are in you know, going to be at the red
- 27:02Speaker 2: carpet for Player of the Year. But I mean Deron
- 27:04Speaker 2: Blane gave up some plays. Micah Parsons gave up some plays.
- 27:07Speaker 2: So I think that needs to happen. I think Zimmer
- 27:09Speaker 2: is the type of guy that would that would help
- 27:11Speaker 2: with that. And what I love the most if if
- 27:13Speaker 2: if they go that route is I've already seen versatility
- 27:16Speaker 2: in him. I've seen a guy that's four three and
- 27:19Speaker 2: then he had to switch to three four and he
- 27:21Speaker 2: was just as good. So I've seen a guy that
- 27:23Speaker 2: can play some different things. He also had Anthony Barr
- 27:27Speaker 2: in Minnesota. Anthony Barr was was a player that went
- 27:30Speaker 2: to four Pro Bowls before he was with Dallas. I mean,
- 27:32Speaker 2: he was a really really good player before some injuries.
- 27:35Speaker 2: And I think you want a guy, you want a
- 27:37Speaker 2: coordinator that's had some past elite pass rushers like a
- 27:41Speaker 2: Micah Parsons and knows how to move him around a
- 27:43Speaker 2: little bit. So that would be something good I think
- 27:45Speaker 2: that would come out of that. All Let's go to
- 27:47Speaker 2: a text question here, Kevin in Virginia, where's your gut
- 27:50Speaker 2: feeling on Layton Vanderesh returning or retiring? Your gut feeling
- 27:53Speaker 2: on who's the next DC? And sorry if you already discussed,
- 27:57Speaker 2: as I'm unable to watch your listen live. All right, well,
- 27:59Speaker 2: thanks Kevin, gut feeling on DC. I mean, again, it
- 28:09Speaker 2: would be surprising to me if it was Zimmer but then,
- 28:13Speaker 2: but then it also makes the most sense. So because
- 28:16Speaker 2: he can play different schemes, he's got a history coaching
- 28:19Speaker 2: against Mike McCarthy for years in the with the Packers
- 28:22Speaker 2: and Vikings, and then obviously his history here. So I
- 28:25Speaker 2: say it would, it would. It makes sense, but it's
- 28:28Speaker 2: just hard. It's hard to imagine that. I mean, it's
- 28:29Speaker 2: hard to think that that would be the case. But
- 28:32Speaker 2: of the candidates, sorry, of the candidates, I was kind
- 28:34Speaker 2: of like that one the best. And then gut feeling
- 28:38Speaker 2: on Layton Vanderwush returning, I don't I don't think he is.
- 28:44Speaker 2: I don't know, but I don't really don't know that.
- 28:46Speaker 2: I don't know how the progress is going. But he's
- 28:50Speaker 2: got a lot of neck injuries, and he's had neck
- 28:52Speaker 2: injuries for a while. It's it just doesn't This is
- 28:57Speaker 2: just me. You're asking me. I'm just gonna tell you,
- 29:00Speaker 2: I don't think it makes the most sense. It's where
- 29:04Speaker 2: there's smoke, there's fire, and there's been a lot of
- 29:06Speaker 2: smoke around this neck injury. I mean, really, it's just
- 29:09Speaker 2: every year and it's the same thing, and it happens,
- 29:11Speaker 2: and he comes back some and then he gets hurt again,
- 29:14Speaker 2: and you know his way of life, and I think
- 29:16Speaker 2: he just had a baby and all that. My gut
- 29:19Speaker 2: feeling is that he probably won't come back. But then again,
- 29:23Speaker 2: this is me not knowing what the doctors are telling him,
- 29:27Speaker 2: how the healing process is going. I just know that
- 29:30Speaker 2: even when he has come back last year, two years ago,
- 29:33Speaker 2: he's been sidelined again for the same things. And that
- 29:37Speaker 2: is scary, especially since you're talking about a neck. If
- 29:42Speaker 2: I had to guess and bet, which we're not allowed
- 29:45Speaker 2: to do, but I would say probably not. That's just
- 29:49Speaker 2: me speculating, and you know how you know how what
- 29:52Speaker 2: happens when you speculate too much. So that's just my opinion.
- 29:55Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Robin, Vegas. Hey, Nick, what's up?
- 30:00Speaker 8: What's going on in Vegas? It's it's awful. It's been raining.
- 30:04Speaker 8: It's gonna rain till Friday. Really, it's about fifty degrees.
- 30:08Speaker 8: The weather has been terrible.
- 30:11Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know that.
- 30:13Speaker 8: Yeah, So if you're you're wanting to come to sunny
- 30:16Speaker 8: Las Vegas, you may have to wait a week.
- 30:18Speaker 2: Well, I'll be there I'll be there tomorrow actually tomorrow
- 30:22Speaker 2: and then and Thursday. Thursday, I'll be in Radio Row
- 30:26Speaker 2: walking around seeing if I can see any of our guys.
- 30:28Speaker 2: And it's always crazy. I don't know if you guys
- 30:31Speaker 2: have ever been to Radio Row, but it's it's pretty
- 30:34Speaker 2: awesome just because you turn around, you you don't know
- 30:37Speaker 2: who you're gonna see.
- 30:40Speaker 3: Is that going to be at the stadium.
- 30:42Speaker 2: I think it's in one of the hotels, but I'm
- 30:45Speaker 2: really not not sure I should know this. I mean,
- 30:47Speaker 2: I have a packet of some things I just haven't
- 30:49Speaker 2: really looked through. It usually not at the stadium. Okay,
- 30:53Speaker 2: there you go, Chris. Yeah, it is really good. All right,
- 30:57Speaker 2: it's using at a really big convention center you on
- 31:00Speaker 2: all that. So yeah, that's not where I'm staying, but obviously,
- 31:05Speaker 2: but but yeah, that that'll be. It'll be fun. I mean,
- 31:07Speaker 2: I just remember last year. Oh there's Joe Montana. Oh
- 31:10Speaker 2: that's cool. Like there's Earl Campbell sitting next to Tony
- 31:13Speaker 2: Dorsett doing an interview, like wow, like you know, that's
- 31:17Speaker 2: it's just just awesome for a for a football fan,
- 31:19Speaker 2: for a sports fan, you know, you don't even know
- 31:21Speaker 2: you see actors. You don't know who you're gonna see.
- 31:23Speaker 2: It's pretty cool. Could see Robin Vegas? You know you would?
- 31:28Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll come over there.
- 31:30Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there. I think people think your first
- 31:32Speaker 2: name is Robin. You know, I think it is Robin Vegas.
- 31:37Speaker 2: You're you're like, you're like a character now, right, what
- 31:41Speaker 2: do you got? What do you got? Man?
- 31:42Speaker 8: It's awesome. You know you're talking about Mike Zimmer and
- 31:44Speaker 8: I think, listen, how I what I love about Mike
- 31:48Speaker 8: Zimmer is two of the greatest cowboys, Deon Sanders and
- 31:51Speaker 8: Darren Woodson endorsed with him. So that's true. That's that's
- 31:55Speaker 8: pretty good, right like that?
- 31:56Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good starting, you know, and.
- 31:58Speaker 8: Let's be honest. Whoever, for the interview, the first thing
- 32:01Speaker 8: I asked him is what are you going to do
- 32:03Speaker 8: with Micah Parsons so he doesn't fade at the end
- 32:06Speaker 8: of the year, And where are we playing him? Because
- 32:10Speaker 8: to me, I think he should be Nick Bosa. Nick
- 32:14Speaker 8: Bosa is six foot four, two sixty five. Micah is
- 32:18Speaker 8: what six two two forty five. I would turn around
- 32:21Speaker 8: and say, I need you to go to two sixty five.
- 32:23Speaker 8: You're going to be a defensive end because when we
- 32:26Speaker 8: move him back and forth to linebacker, it doesn't work
- 32:29Speaker 8: because we have no linebackers. So now you take him
- 32:32Speaker 8: off the defensive line, we lose the pants rush.
- 32:34Speaker 3: We move him to the defensive line, we lose.
- 32:36Speaker 8: So, let's face it. He we talked about this. He
- 32:39Speaker 8: wants to be on the line. In today's NFL, you
- 32:45Speaker 8: have to affect the quarterback. He's the only guy on
- 32:47Speaker 8: our team that consistently does it. But I would say
- 32:50Speaker 8: to him, I need you to go to two sixty
- 32:52Speaker 8: five and that's where you move him up and down
- 32:54Speaker 8: the defensive line.
- 32:55Speaker 2: And you said this about you said, Nick Bosa. Right, yeah,
- 32:59Speaker 2: that's what you want, because that's the problem he is
- 33:03Speaker 2: that he is that for this team. But there's no
- 33:06Speaker 2: Fred Warner.
- 33:08Speaker 8: No, no, I agree, But you know, you can't play
- 33:11Speaker 8: defensive end at two hundred and forty five pounds. You
- 33:15Speaker 8: just can't. Like we talked, he does it in October,
- 33:18Speaker 8: he does it in September, December, and January. He disappears
- 33:23Speaker 8: because he's just warned out. Yeah, so I think this team,
- 33:27Speaker 8: if you're going to invest like we think maybe thirty
- 33:29Speaker 8: million a year, then that's what he needs to do.
- 33:32Speaker 8: And I think Mike Zimmer or you know, maybe a
- 33:36Speaker 8: week Martindale, But I like Mike Zimmer. He needs to
- 33:40Speaker 8: take this team the defense and be more blue collar
- 33:44Speaker 8: defense instead of a flash defense. They have to take
- 33:48Speaker 8: as much pride as in stopping the run as they
- 33:51Speaker 8: do rushing the passer.
- 33:52Speaker 2: And that's the problem with this You're right, You're one
- 33:54Speaker 2: hundred percent fright. That is the problem with this team.
- 33:58Speaker 2: And you know it starts don't want it. They don't
- 34:00Speaker 2: have the will well I mean, and.
- 34:03Speaker 9: That's not their fault.
- 34:04Speaker 8: That's dan Quinn's fault. As much as we like dan Quinn,
- 34:07Speaker 8: and you know, you know he's one of the guys.
- 34:09Speaker 8: And like you said, Michael calls him his uncle. That's
- 34:12Speaker 8: a detriment too, because Sam Williams never fixed the penalty
- 34:17Speaker 8: problem and he was still on the field. You still
- 34:19Speaker 8: had too many defensive penalties in the in the backfield
- 34:23Speaker 8: that we've seen that killed us. So as much as
- 34:26Speaker 8: I like Dad Quinny brought the maybe the interceptions in Eternos,
- 34:30Speaker 8: he never fixed the run. He never fixed the discipline.
- 34:33Speaker 8: And I wanted Belichick only because of the discipline factor. Well,
- 34:38Speaker 8: if I can't get him, and I keep Mike McCarthy.
- 34:41Speaker 8: I'm good with that. If I could bring in a
- 34:44Speaker 8: disciplined guy on defense him and you know that's what
- 34:46Speaker 8: Mike Zilla is. He don't mess around.
- 34:48Speaker 2: He doesn't mess around. No, Rob, appreciate the call. Anything else?
- 34:52Speaker 2: Are you good? All right? Man? Thank you good.
- 34:55Speaker 8: I hopefully have a good time in Vegas. And I'll
- 34:57Speaker 8: see if I get down. And you never know, if
- 34:59Speaker 8: I see you, I'll yell.
- 35:00Speaker 2: Out, all right, all right, and I'll know exactly if
- 35:03Speaker 2: I hear you talking. I'll know there's Rob. There's Rob Vegas.
- 35:07Speaker 2: Thanks for the call. I appreciate that. You know. Another
- 35:10Speaker 2: thing I like about about Zimmer and this was this
- 35:13Speaker 2: happened before he was a head coach, but but you know,
- 35:17Speaker 2: he's been a head coach. I mean, he's been a
- 35:19Speaker 2: coordinator for a long time. And he was a coordinator,
- 35:22Speaker 2: you know, under Bill Parcells, you know, and he was
- 35:25Speaker 2: able to work, you know, and do his thing even
- 35:28Speaker 2: even though you're not the head coach, and you get
- 35:30Speaker 2: people's respect, and so I think that that's a good thing.
- 35:34Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not saying McCarthy's parcels or anything like that.
- 35:37Speaker 2: I'm just saying I think you know, you hear Woodson
- 35:40Speaker 2: talked about him here. You know Dion has talked about him,
- 35:43Speaker 2: and you know, he wasn't their head coach, he was
- 35:44Speaker 2: their coordinator, and so I think he can gain a
- 35:46Speaker 2: lot of respect from that. And sometimes I've heard coaches
- 35:49Speaker 2: say this before that even when they become head coaches,
- 35:52Speaker 2: they kind of missed being the actual, you know, a
- 35:55Speaker 2: position coach or a coordinator, just more hands on, because
- 35:58Speaker 2: when you're the head coach, you hear everyone's problem. And
- 36:01Speaker 2: it's not just on the field, it's all the equipment,
- 36:04Speaker 2: staff trainer and staff video department. I mean, anybody's got
- 36:07Speaker 2: a problem, you know, it goes to the head coach.
- 36:09Speaker 2: And so sometimes I think coaches that go back to
- 36:11Speaker 2: being coordinators that's really what they do well. So if
- 36:15Speaker 2: that is the case, I think it'll be definitely something
- 36:18Speaker 2: fun to watch. All Right, we're going to before I
- 36:22Speaker 2: get me get before I get to the next call,
- 36:24Speaker 2: I just want to say this. I talked a little
- 36:25Speaker 2: bit about doing some homework over the last few days,
- 36:29Speaker 2: and if you know me at all, I'm a stat geek.
- 36:33Speaker 2: I love stats, I love media. I want a media
- 36:36Speaker 2: guide of my own life. I want to know which
- 36:39Speaker 2: fast food restaurant I've been to the most, and which
- 36:42Speaker 2: movie I've seen the most, or whatever it is. I
- 36:44Speaker 2: just love stats on anything. So when the season was over,
- 36:48Speaker 2: I did some stats and some research on some of
- 36:52Speaker 2: the callers, how many callers we've had, and who you know,
- 36:55Speaker 2: who's called the most, and all that stuff.
- 36:57Speaker 6: You know.
- 36:57Speaker 2: I like to do the states, and I thought we
- 37:00Speaker 2: had all the states covered. I really did. I was
- 37:03Speaker 2: like calling out states. I was like, oh, you know, Wyoming, Montana,
- 37:08Speaker 2: New Hampshire, Vermont, where are you Alaska? You know? Well
- 37:12Speaker 2: one that that I guess I just overlooked. And this
- 37:16Speaker 2: is from what my research says is that we have
- 37:19Speaker 2: never had a call from Massachusetts. So I did forty
- 37:22Speaker 2: nine states and I don't have any on my list.
- 37:24Speaker 2: I got over three hundred callers, which I think is amazing. Guys,
- 37:27Speaker 2: that's that's unbelievable. Three hundred and twenty five different callers.
- 37:31Speaker 2: And that's just since i've been taking notes in early September.
- 37:34Speaker 2: There's about a two or three weeks after training camp
- 37:36Speaker 2: came back that I didn't I didn't have my notes,
- 37:38Speaker 2: so on maybe I've missed one. Maybe I've missed one
- 37:40Speaker 2: from from Massachusetts, but I haven't. I don't see one,
- 37:44Speaker 2: so I'm calling out Massachusetts now. Don't have a call
- 37:47Speaker 2: there from the Boston area. But another thing that I
- 37:52Speaker 2: did see is that there's about there's about five or
- 37:57Speaker 2: six callers that are really just on their own little les.
- 38:01Speaker 2: There's about there's about twenty that I've called. I think
- 38:03Speaker 2: you know, more than ten, but there's five or six
- 38:07Speaker 2: and they're all pretty much called here on this show.
- 38:10Speaker 2: We've got we've we've got Travis and san Antonio, he's
- 38:13Speaker 2: up there. Joe and Stanford was the you know, the originator,
- 38:17Speaker 2: and then uh and then Robin Vegas came in, and
- 38:19Speaker 2: then this guy, the next caller here, Brian, and Kansas
- 38:22Speaker 2: City's called more than anybody Brian in Kansas City, it's
- 38:26Speaker 2: called the most calling again today, Brian, what's up?
- 38:29Speaker 10: Hey? Nick?
- 38:29Speaker 2: How are you good? How are you doing?
- 38:31Speaker 3: Man?
- 38:32Speaker 10: When you said earlier about the stats, I'm like, hey,
- 38:34Speaker 10: I wonder if I'm I wonder if I'm on that list.
- 38:37Speaker 2: Oh my god, Yeah, you're actually causing me problems because
- 38:40Speaker 2: because the screen doesn't go that far, I might excel spreadsheet.
- 38:44Speaker 2: I'm like, there's another one. There's another Brian in Kansas City.
- 38:47Speaker 2: I'm like scrolling over because I mean, you're just go
- 38:50Speaker 2: so far off the page, I think, But hey, this
- 38:52Speaker 2: is not a I'm joking, it's not a problem. I
- 38:55Speaker 2: appreciate you guys that call the most, and uh, we've
- 38:59Speaker 2: changed times and I still think you've called almost every
- 39:01Speaker 2: time so and it's been awesome. And you also bring
- 39:05Speaker 2: some trivia and some history to it, which I love too.
- 39:07Speaker 10: So yeah, you're the guy for that. When I when
- 39:11Speaker 10: I watched one of these old games, I'm like, hey,
- 39:13Speaker 10: there's the guy I'm gonna ask Nick about.
- 39:15Speaker 2: Do it?
- 39:16Speaker 3: Yeap?
- 39:16Speaker 2: Love it?
- 39:17Speaker 10: Yeah, I kind of question about just what you've seen
- 39:21Speaker 10: because you've been You've been with the Cowboys in an
- 39:23Speaker 10: official capacity for what twenty five years?
- 39:26Speaker 2: Five years, right, twenty five?
- 39:28Speaker 10: Yeah, So you know, back when Parcels came on board,
- 39:32Speaker 10: nobody would have given a damn what the players thought
- 39:36Speaker 10: about hiring Bill Parcel. And obviously that's changed now because
- 39:41Speaker 10: you've got a guy like Belichick that didn't get a
- 39:43Speaker 10: job and Brabel didn't get a job, and these real
- 39:48Speaker 10: hard those guys. So I'm just curious and you know
- 39:51Speaker 10: what you think about you talked about it a little
- 39:54Speaker 10: bit already, but you know, bring bringing Zim in here.
- 39:58Speaker 10: Zim is and he probably doesn't say a sentence without
- 40:02Speaker 10: a cuss word and yelling at somebody. And you know,
- 40:05Speaker 10: they always had a hard time with his press conferences,
- 40:08Speaker 10: you know, in Minnesota, because he's not He's not a
- 40:12Speaker 10: real warm, fuzzy, cordial guy. And so I'm just curious.
- 40:17Speaker 10: You know, you got the and on one of the
- 40:19Speaker 10: earlier shows, they were using Mike as the example. You know,
- 40:23Speaker 10: Mike is Micah is a unique person, but just the
- 40:27Speaker 10: modern NFL player, the guy that got his own opinions.
- 40:30Speaker 10: You know, he's got his own brand with the linebacker
- 40:33Speaker 10: used to say that all the time, Jalen Smith. You know,
- 40:38Speaker 10: they're all all about my own brand and my you know,
- 40:41Speaker 10: just what you've seen over the years. And where is
- 40:45Speaker 10: that going with? Can you bring in a guy who's
- 40:48Speaker 10: talented like Zimmer and still make it work? And then
- 40:53Speaker 10: for my old time player, I got to watch one
- 40:55Speaker 10: of the one of the games that I had forgotten about.
- 40:57Speaker 10: Somebody who stepped in and helped us win a Super Bowl,
- 40:59Speaker 10: Rate Donaldson, And I'll hang up and listen. Brother, It's
- 41:03Speaker 10: good to talk.
- 41:04Speaker 2: To you again too, all right, thank you, Brian Ray Donaldson. Wow.
- 41:08Speaker 2: I mean that was one where you know, veteran free
- 41:12Speaker 2: agent right there where you know, they had Stepnowsky at
- 41:16Speaker 2: center and then Stepanovsky. You know, I think people kind
- 41:19Speaker 2: of think that maybe Stepanovsky was there this whole time,
- 41:22Speaker 2: you know, there in the nineties, when he really he
- 41:25Speaker 2: was there for two and then he left in free agency,
- 41:28Speaker 2: when when that really got going around ninety four, and uh,
- 41:32Speaker 2: he went to Houston the Oilers, and then uh and
- 41:35Speaker 2: Ray donald they stepped in and got Ray Donaldson at center,
- 41:38Speaker 2: and he was a two time pro bowler and you know,
- 41:40Speaker 2: he had played for the Colts for so many years
- 41:42Speaker 2: and so he comes right in and I mean, yeah,
- 41:44Speaker 2: I didn't I again, I didn't cover the team then,
- 41:46Speaker 2: but I know it was just one of those It
- 41:48Speaker 2: was a really good underrated pickup because he put he
- 41:51Speaker 2: came in and I think Nate Newton has talked about
- 41:53Speaker 2: him just how just it was, what a professional he was,
- 41:57Speaker 2: you know, and I think that offensive line about that
- 42:00Speaker 2: time needed some of that a little bit. A guy
- 42:02Speaker 2: that would come in and you know, just kind of
- 42:04Speaker 2: like Stepanovsky, really kind of no nonsense didn't say a
- 42:07Speaker 2: lot and really strong. So yeah, he was. He's an
- 42:11Speaker 2: underrated free agent signing that. I don't think it's a
- 42:14Speaker 2: lot of attention there some of the other stuff you
- 42:17Speaker 2: talked about, though, you know, again it's I don't know
- 42:22Speaker 2: why those guys haven't gotten jobs. You mentioned Belichick and
- 42:24Speaker 2: and vrabel I. I you know, it's I don't know
- 42:27Speaker 2: if it's just a players thing. I mean, you know,
- 42:30Speaker 2: rabel I never really understood the verbel fascination there. You know,
- 42:34Speaker 2: he took over a team in Tennessee that that it
- 42:36Speaker 2: was in the playoffs and then over a few years
- 42:39Speaker 2: they're not. And so you know, his record wasn't that great.
- 42:42Speaker 2: And you know, and the thing about Belichick again, great
- 42:46Speaker 2: greatest coach of all time, I would think, I think
- 42:49Speaker 2: you put him in there. But there's there's got to
- 42:52Speaker 2: be people that are looking at his record without Brady
- 42:54Speaker 2: as well. You know, his record without Brady is not
- 42:57Speaker 2: as good as McCarthy's a record without Aaron Rogers. I
- 43:01Speaker 2: know that. So you know that that right there. Just again,
- 43:05Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not comparing those two guys. All I'm
- 43:08Speaker 2: saying is is that I think there's a reason why
- 43:12Speaker 2: and I don't know all of them, but there's there's
- 43:14Speaker 2: some reasons why that that maybe Belichick didn't didn't get
- 43:17Speaker 2: some jobs right now, and you know, maybe he's asking
- 43:19Speaker 2: for more than what teams were wanting, maybe you know, financially,
- 43:23Speaker 2: or just you know, from from a power standpoint. I
- 43:26Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know all that. But what you
- 43:28Speaker 2: did ask was about Zimmer could he could he relate
- 43:30Speaker 2: to these guys, particularly Michael Parsons. And you know, I've
- 43:34Speaker 2: said this the other day. We saw some comments that
- 43:36Speaker 2: were made about Micah Parsons and his brother got involved,
- 43:40Speaker 2: his mother got involved, and I really liked what she said.
- 43:44Speaker 2: And this guy wants to win more than anyone. That's
- 43:47Speaker 2: what she said. And I'm saying, hey, I'm gonna give
- 43:49Speaker 2: Micah the benefit of the doubt, and I believe that,
- 43:52Speaker 2: And if that is true, then it'll be all right.
- 43:55Speaker 2: If coach gets after you for making a mistake now
- 43:58Speaker 2: and again, you'll be fine. You'll be fine. It's happened.
- 44:01Speaker 2: You can deal with it because this coach wants to
- 44:03Speaker 2: win and he wants you to win. So I'm gonna
- 44:06Speaker 2: say all that if that's the way these players really are,
- 44:08Speaker 2: including Michael Parsons and they want to go out and win.
- 44:11Speaker 2: Then let's get a coach that'll do that. And maybe
- 44:13Speaker 2: maybe he says words that you won't you won't hear
- 44:15Speaker 2: in church. But it's okay, it's it's it's football. And
- 44:18Speaker 2: as as the late Jim Garrett said, when it's not
- 44:20Speaker 2: the boy scouts, okay, this is the NFL. So I mean,
- 44:23Speaker 2: if that's how the coach is, that's how it is.
- 44:26Speaker 2: That they've heard it before and whatever it takes. And
- 44:29Speaker 2: I think in this, in this you know, and I
- 44:31Speaker 2: say whatever it takes. You guys know what I mean.
- 44:33Speaker 2: I mean, But I think a coach that that's it's
- 44:36Speaker 2: fiery like that is something that these guys maybe it's
- 44:39Speaker 2: good for this team, uh, because they need to change
- 44:41Speaker 2: one way or another. This has to change. Nobody's excited
- 44:44Speaker 2: about twelve and five and losing in the playoffs. No
- 44:47Speaker 2: one's excited about that. So you're not changing the coach,
- 44:49Speaker 2: You're not changing the quarterback, you're changing the defense. You
- 44:51Speaker 2: need to make a change here. That's why I don't
- 44:53Speaker 2: think I think it's good that that it's not you know,
- 44:57Speaker 2: Joe Witt Junior, You know, I mean who's a guy
- 44:59Speaker 2: that it's been under Dang, we don't. We don't need that.
- 45:02Speaker 2: You need something completely different, and maybe that you know,
- 45:05Speaker 2: that's why they're kind of looking on the outside there,
- 45:07Speaker 2: all right, Jeff in North Carolina? Next caller, what's going
- 45:11Speaker 2: on it? My man? What's up?
- 45:13Speaker 3: Much?
- 45:14Speaker 9: Happy anniversary? How are you a bit more calmer? I'm
- 45:17Speaker 9: a little bit calmer today. I was really excited when
- 45:20Speaker 9: I've got to talk to Darren Woodsland.
- 45:22Speaker 2: Oh well, yeah, of course.
- 45:23Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 45:25Speaker 9: And I don't know if I'm up. I don't know
- 45:26Speaker 9: if I've got up to teen college yet. I'm probably
- 45:28Speaker 9: pretty close.
- 45:29Speaker 2: You're you're you're really you're right there, You're right there.
- 45:32Speaker 5: And again I'm two o'clock.
- 45:33Speaker 9: Time slot actually works a little bit better for me
- 45:35Speaker 9: because the eleven o'clock I'm usually driving still on my route.
- 45:39Speaker 9: But by this time I'm pretty much done on my route.
- 45:41Speaker 2: And uh, you say you're laying the asphalt.
- 45:45Speaker 9: Right, No, No, I don't like I don't lay asphalt.
- 45:49Speaker 9: I have a I have a I'm a route driver.
- 45:51Speaker 9: I have a route that deliver stuff every day. Ok,
- 45:55Speaker 9: I got, yes, I got, But I was gonna tell
- 45:57Speaker 9: you I'm kind of warming up a little bit to
- 45:59Speaker 9: my zim. I kind of like Aiden Dirty too. I
- 46:03Speaker 9: hear a lot of good things about him, but but
- 46:06Speaker 9: I feel like that Jerry is probably I want somebody
- 46:10Speaker 9: with head coach experience and uh uh he seems to
- 46:15Speaker 9: value that in this coordinators And but I do I
- 46:19Speaker 9: do hear a lot of good things about Dirty and
- 46:21Speaker 9: uh I think I'm seeing his name right Dirty yeah,
- 46:27Speaker 9: Aiden Dirty so. But but we'll see how by how
- 46:30Speaker 9: it shakes out. But I have a random player for you,
- 46:35Speaker 9: all right. I was watching, you know, over the weekend.
- 46:40Speaker 9: You know they have the little thirty minute Super Bowl.
- 46:42Speaker 2: I watched. I watched all of those, Yes.
- 46:47Speaker 9: I've seen them all many times. But I was watching
- 46:50Speaker 9: super the Super Bowl five show, and they talk about
- 46:54Speaker 9: Drew Pearson being the original eighty eight. But there was
- 46:56Speaker 9: an eighty eight there and that looked to me like
- 46:58Speaker 9: his name was Reggie Rutger. Is that was that?
- 47:01Speaker 3: Was that?
- 47:02Speaker 9: Who that was? Was that the same rage of ruckerd
- 47:04Speaker 9: that went on to play for the Browns later or
- 47:06Speaker 9: is it somebody different?
- 47:07Speaker 2: You know, you got you got me on that. I
- 47:10Speaker 2: thought in that time, I thought the eighty eight was
- 47:13Speaker 2: a guy named Sellers.
- 47:15Speaker 9: But I, well, I remember that. I remember that name too,
- 47:18Speaker 9: So this looked like I was just looking at watching
- 47:21Speaker 9: the show.
- 47:22Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 47:22Speaker 9: I tried to catch it as you run by me.
- 47:25Speaker 2: Hey, hey, that you there. It is Reggie Rucker nineteen
- 47:28Speaker 2: seventy to seventy one. I was way off Ron Sellers
- 47:32Speaker 2: was in seventy two. I'm completely off. There. There you go, man,
- 47:38Speaker 2: Reggie Rutger seventy to seventy one.
- 47:41Speaker 9: Finally found one.
- 47:42Speaker 5: You wouldn't sure, Yeah, I didn't.
- 47:44Speaker 2: I didn't know about that one.
- 47:46Speaker 9: I remember him playing for the Browns. If it's the
- 47:48Speaker 9: same guy. Maybe he played for the Browns later.
- 47:50Speaker 2: Maybe maybe Yeah, he got me on that one. Man,
- 47:54Speaker 2: I don't know. I didn't know. I knew there were
- 47:57Speaker 2: Ron Sellers there in seventy two. I figured, you know,
- 47:59Speaker 2: maybe he was there. He only played one year, so.
- 48:02Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, got well, I'm pulling for dad. Hope you
- 48:08Speaker 9: get seen this time and h but I will enjoy
- 48:11Speaker 9: yourself in Las Vegas and uh and we'll talk to
- 48:15Speaker 9: you nixt week.
- 48:16Speaker 2: Thank you, Jeff, appreciate that you too. Love talking to Jeff.
- 48:21Speaker 2: I just I mean just just seems like if he
- 48:24Speaker 2: ever gets mad, I don't know, if I want to
- 48:26Speaker 2: see it, but uh, you know, you just don't. I
- 48:28Speaker 2: don't ever expect that. You just always got a good attitude.
- 48:32Speaker 2: All right, let's go to speaking of I would think
- 48:36Speaker 2: a good attitude. Just if whether for weather ever affects
- 48:39Speaker 2: your attitude, then I'm guessing that Louis and Honolulu, Hawaii
- 48:43Speaker 2: has always been pretty good, pretty good spirits. Louis.
- 48:50Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we go here we go, first of all anniversary.
- 48:58Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate that. Thank you. Yeah, how's that weather?
- 49:03Speaker 3: Unfortunately we got a lot of win you know how
- 49:05Speaker 3: it wins right now? Okay, Yeah, but he still can't
- 49:09Speaker 3: beat the Hawaii Yeah.
- 49:10Speaker 2: Oh, I mean it's pretty awesome.
- 49:12Speaker 3: Yeah, I lived here for about thirty years. I'm originally
- 49:15Speaker 3: from Galston, Texas.
- 49:17Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so did you ever go to the Pro Bowl.
- 49:20Speaker 3: All the time? That's yeah, scored the players really the
- 49:25Speaker 3: short story. Yeah, talk about the Tom Brady and the
- 49:28Speaker 3: hanging out with me, but the whole day with me
- 49:30Speaker 3: really yeah? And yeah end up, and he knowed me
- 49:33Speaker 3: his Pro Bowl jersey Auto Grould Wow. Yeah real nice.
- 49:36Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's pretty awesome. So I kind of I
- 49:39Speaker 2: never went to that game. I went to the games
- 49:41Speaker 2: when they were you know, here in the state or
- 49:43Speaker 2: the mainland. But yeah, I didn't. I never went to that,
- 49:48Speaker 2: but I I'm one of those that kind of I
- 49:50Speaker 2: wish there still was a Pro Bowl game. But but
- 49:54Speaker 2: then again, you know, you say that and then your
- 49:58Speaker 2: favorite player tears is ac l in early February, and
- 50:01Speaker 2: you're like, oh, this is not worth it, this is
- 50:04Speaker 2: not so and it's probably going to happen here, you
- 50:09Speaker 2: know with some of the things these guys are doing.
- 50:12Speaker 2: You know, even in the Pro Bowl games, they're not
- 50:14Speaker 2: getting tackled, but they're still jumping around doing stuff dodge ball.
- 50:18Speaker 2: I mean, it's gonna happen and then you know you're
- 50:20Speaker 2: gonna get an injury on that. But you know, it
- 50:23Speaker 2: was entertaining for me to watch it. But yeah, it
- 50:25Speaker 2: would have been cool to go on to go to
- 50:27Speaker 2: Hawaii and see some of that.
- 50:29Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought, did you come down in twenty eighteen
- 50:32Speaker 3: for the preseason?
- 50:33Speaker 9: Guy?
- 50:33Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, I saw you.
- 50:35Speaker 3: I saw you. Oh yeah, she met your guys over
- 50:37Speaker 3: at themor oh Okay.
- 50:39Speaker 2: Man, it was so hot down on that field.
- 50:43Speaker 5: I couldn't believe.
- 50:45Speaker 2: How hot it was there, just down there on that turf.
- 50:48Speaker 2: I remember the Cowboys had a running back number thirty
- 50:50Speaker 2: six that was making a lot of plays. You remember
- 50:53Speaker 2: that guy. Yeah, it's kind of a trick question.
- 50:59Speaker 5: It was.
- 51:00Speaker 2: It was yeah, yeah, he didn't switch. It was the game.
- 51:05Speaker 2: It was the year that that Zeke was on. It
- 51:07Speaker 2: was holding out and uh that was the game that
- 51:10Speaker 2: Jerry said, Zeke who after Pollard's you know games? Joking
- 51:15Speaker 2: of course, but yeah, yeah.
- 51:17Speaker 3: I got to meet all of you guys and uh yeah,
- 51:21Speaker 3: Pollard getting me a hug. So yeah, I got to
- 51:24Speaker 3: meet all. Took my grandson maybe to meet. Uh you
- 51:27Speaker 3: met Jerry and met everybody.
- 51:29Speaker 2: Cool, that's good. What do you think, Lewis?
- 51:32Speaker 3: But uh, uh, I'll be honest with you. I'm still
- 51:37Speaker 3: hurting man. I'm still hurting bro because uh I'm around
- 51:41Speaker 3: about nine the fans out here, co workers and uh yeah,
- 51:45Speaker 3: I'm still hurting Bro. Yeah, so yeah I was. I
- 51:49Speaker 3: really thought we would make a harder push this year.
- 51:53Speaker 2: Yeah we all didn't.
- 51:54Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, uh, you know, we all know the
- 51:56Speaker 3: problem is mainly just playing and condies and stuff. So hopefully,
- 52:02Speaker 3: well I'm putting Mike German, so if you can get
- 52:04Speaker 3: in and t but that's schedule next year. Oh it's scary.
- 52:11Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks that way. It definitely does. It definitely
- 52:14Speaker 2: looks that way, especially because this you never know how
- 52:18Speaker 2: teams are gonna be. But but you do play the
- 52:22Speaker 2: a f C North, and all of those teams they
- 52:27Speaker 2: want to fight. I mean, like you know, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Cleveland,
- 52:33Speaker 2: the Bengals, the Bingles are getting their quarterback. Man, I
- 52:35Speaker 2: mean those teams are it's those are four tough games.
- 52:39Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, Houston at home, that's probably gonna be tough.
- 52:43Speaker 2: You know, that's your five AFC games right there, and
- 52:46Speaker 2: then you get it, you know. So Washington, I mean Washington,
- 52:50Speaker 2: that's going to be tough. You know, usually it usually
- 52:54Speaker 2: is a little bit tougher than what it was this year.
- 52:56Speaker 2: But I bet you they're going to be better, you know,
- 52:59Speaker 2: the quarterback. But you're you're right, like you said, it's
- 53:02Speaker 2: just going to be. The schedule does look tough, but
- 53:05Speaker 2: you know, I'm not I'm not dismissing the fact that
- 53:08Speaker 2: the Cowboys are a good team as well, Like, like
- 53:11Speaker 2: you know, that's the thing I think gets lost sometimes,
- 53:13Speaker 2: like the way the way it ended, like the same
- 53:16Speaker 2: old Cowboys. Well, if it's the same old Cowboys and
- 53:19Speaker 2: then they're going to be a pretty good team that
- 53:21Speaker 2: probably makes the playoffs. But I understand that the goal
- 53:25Speaker 2: is higher.
- 53:26Speaker 3: Right right, I think you will make a strong push
- 53:30Speaker 3: any types of things up.
- 53:31Speaker 2: Yeah, who was what's your number one thing you think
- 53:34Speaker 2: the Cowboys needed? What position do you think they need
- 53:36Speaker 2: to fix the most?
- 53:40Speaker 3: Well, you gotta be center, I mean because like gam
- 53:46Speaker 3: but he's getting pushed back and he's doing it. He's fighting,
- 53:50Speaker 3: he fights, I give him that, but he's getting pushed
- 53:53Speaker 3: back back lap too many times. I mean we needed
- 53:56Speaker 3: somebody that a little stronger then down. Don't disagree, Yeah,
- 54:01Speaker 3: because uh I missed out boy, but yeah I'm miss Frederick.
- 54:08Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, sure you can get to the second level. Yeah,
- 54:13Speaker 3: he's smart. I don't know what to so true. Yeah,
- 54:17Speaker 3: it was.
- 54:17Speaker 2: A you know, and and I think that was that
- 54:19Speaker 2: was kind of the hope that you know, you drafted,
- 54:22Speaker 2: you draft, you had Frederick, and then you know, you
- 54:24Speaker 2: draft the Odors, the same school school from Wisconsin that
- 54:27Speaker 2: that prides themselves mine, you know, and as a but
- 54:31Speaker 2: you know, the again first round pick, fourth round pick,
- 54:35Speaker 2: it's usually get what you get. I mean, there there
- 54:38Speaker 2: are some Decks, there's I mean, there's Jay Ratt left.
- 54:40Speaker 2: You can go list goes on and on, but you
- 54:43Speaker 2: use Tom Brady. But you usually get what you get.
- 54:45Speaker 2: And you know, and I think the Cowboys are gonna
- 54:48Speaker 2: if they're gonna upgrade a center, they're gonna have to,
- 54:50Speaker 2: you know, put a little bit more resources there than
- 54:52Speaker 2: they have before. So all right, Lewis, thanks for the call.
- 54:56Speaker 3: YEA man got through and I'm gonna tryin all right,
- 55:00Speaker 3: do that?
- 55:01Speaker 2: Do that for sure? Good hearing from you. All right,
- 55:03Speaker 2: Lewis in Hawaii. We got another first time caller, Joe
- 55:08Speaker 2: in Detroit. Detroit, Joe, you there, Chris? Do you know
- 55:16Speaker 2: you there?
- 55:17Speaker 1: I'm here?
- 55:18Speaker 2: What's up man? How are you doing good?
- 55:20Speaker 3: How are you good?
- 55:21Speaker 2: First time call?
- 55:22Speaker 1: First time caller?
- 55:24Speaker 3: I mean.
- 55:26Speaker 1: On Dallas Cowboys dot Com since I was a kid.
- 55:28Speaker 2: Nice, nice I've been. I've been writing on Dallas Cowboys
- 55:32Speaker 2: dot com since I was a kid. So I think,
- 55:35Speaker 2: so I think when you're twenty three, I think you're
- 55:37Speaker 2: a kid. I was twenty three years old, right out
- 55:39Speaker 2: of college, thought I knew everything, but I didn't. I
- 55:41Speaker 2: didn't know anything. So, uh, what's up man?
- 55:45Speaker 1: Well? You know I was listening to some of the callers,
- 55:48Speaker 1: and I think a lot of them really hit it
- 55:51Speaker 1: on the head with discipline on defense, one thing I
- 55:57Speaker 1: know for sure. Every year, I like just sit down
- 56:01Speaker 1: and I think about it, and I say, be realistic
- 56:03Speaker 1: with myself. How do I really feel about the team.
- 56:08Speaker 1: And even though we're coming off twelve and five, twelve
- 56:10Speaker 1: and five, twelve and five, I told myself it worries
- 56:14Speaker 1: me that we're the most penalized team in the league.
- 56:18Speaker 1: I said, I gotta be realistic. We can't run the
- 56:20Speaker 1: ball that well. Well, if we're in the playoffs, man,
- 56:23Speaker 1: and we happen to go on the road, and whether
- 56:25Speaker 1: it's not in our favor, can we count on the
- 56:28Speaker 1: team to run the football and not make silly penalties
- 56:33Speaker 1: that are gonna cost us? And those things didn't sit
- 56:37Speaker 1: well with me. Yeah, that was kind of just going
- 56:40Speaker 1: with it, trying to wing it and hope something good happened.
- 56:45Speaker 1: But they're just not disciplined when it matters the most.
- 56:50Speaker 1: And I think if they can get Mike Zimmer to
- 56:51Speaker 1: come in here and gather somebody these younger guys and
- 56:55Speaker 1: say listen, you're talented. The spotlight is on you are
- 57:00Speaker 1: going to be making a bunch of money with these
- 57:01Speaker 1: second contracts coming up, but you got to dig down
- 57:06Speaker 1: deep when it matters. Like Dan Quinn sitting in the booth,
- 57:10Speaker 1: I understand the concept, but dude, you're in the playoffs.
- 57:14Speaker 1: Your team is struggling. You need to rally your guys.
- 57:18Speaker 1: You need to talk to your guys, get a feel
- 57:20Speaker 1: for them, look them in the eyes. We were missing that.
- 57:24Speaker 1: So I'm hoping Zimmer takes a different approach if he
- 57:26Speaker 1: gets hired. If not, we need somebody that can bring
- 57:32Speaker 1: strong nose, just tough defense. Get these guys out of
- 57:37Speaker 1: their own heads, man, and just let them play fast
- 57:39Speaker 1: and hard.
- 57:40Speaker 2: You know, I don't know how many defensive coordinators are
- 57:44Speaker 2: sitting in booth. It seems like it's rare, though it
- 57:48Speaker 2: seems like there's more of them on the field, like
- 57:51Speaker 2: for that reason you just said, getting a feel for
- 57:54Speaker 2: the game, getting face to face conversations, you know. And
- 58:00Speaker 2: we know there's technology, there's phones and all that, but
- 58:03Speaker 2: I'm kind of with you there being down there, being
- 58:06Speaker 2: in you know, in the middle of it all. Yeah,
- 58:09Speaker 2: you see better up top, there's no doubt about that.
- 58:12Speaker 2: But there's nothing like being on the sideline. I'm sorry.
- 58:15Speaker 2: I mean, there's nothing like it, So I kind of
- 58:17Speaker 2: I'm with you on that again, I'm you know, and
- 58:20Speaker 2: I don't want to poke holes and dan Quinn and
- 58:22Speaker 2: say it was this, it was that and all that.
- 58:25Speaker 2: But like we said, and I think you agree and
- 58:28Speaker 2: everyone kind of agrees, it's got to be something. We
- 58:31Speaker 2: got to change something here. So I think him leaving,
- 58:35Speaker 2: like I've said before, I wasn't as concerned with that
- 58:39Speaker 2: because I know something's got to got to happen here.
- 58:41Speaker 2: So maybe a different coordinator, a different voice can change
- 58:45Speaker 2: some things around.
- 58:48Speaker 1: We need it desperately, man, Like, Yeah, the fact that
- 58:51Speaker 1: I'm just sitting there and we're playing a seven seats
- 58:54Speaker 1: and I get that they're hot, but you're a number
- 58:58Speaker 1: two seeds at home and you've pretty much dominated at
- 59:02Speaker 1: home for almost three years. You can't let a guy
- 59:05Speaker 1: coming into his first full year as a starter. I mean,
- 59:08Speaker 1: you're crying out loud third down, dropping back on his
- 59:12Speaker 1: back foot and just throwing a laser in the end
- 59:16Speaker 1: zone for a touchdown put you up twenty one points.
- 59:18Speaker 1: It was demoralizing. It was demoralizing.
- 59:22Speaker 2: Well, Joe, it sounds like you're over it. Now it
- 59:24Speaker 2: sounds like you've definitely gotten over the game. It was
- 59:28Speaker 2: just you know, I know, yes, yes, yeah, I get it. No,
- 59:32Speaker 2: I get it. You're right. It's uh, you know, you
- 59:36Speaker 2: know whose name I haven't heard once in these calls
- 59:39Speaker 2: because I do you have anything else? Joe? Are you good?
- 59:43Speaker 1: One last thing? Yeah, go for it, one last thing.
- 59:47Speaker 1: The look that I saw in Deck Prescott's eyes after
- 59:53Speaker 1: throwing that interception at pick six, I don't know if
- 59:55Speaker 1: you notice how he just froze like he did it
- 59:58Speaker 1: even chase after the defender. He just froze. Somebody from
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: that front office needs to grab Dak Prescott and put
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: their arm around him and say, all this pressure twenty six,
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: twenty seven years, it's not all on you. I get
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: what he's trying to do, right, but it's not all
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: on him, like, let the kid play football. I think
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: he's got an enormous amount of pressure on him. It
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: was bad enough the whole Romo saga and everything, and
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: I love Tony Romo probably my second favorite cowboy behind
- 1:00:34Speaker 1: Akman all time, but the situation, it was a lot
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: of pressure from the get go. Somebody's just gonna have
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: to let him know, like listen, just play with a
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: little bit less pressure, do your thing. Just go out there,
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: play football, prekind it's your rookie year, no expectations, go
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: out there, let it rip and hopefully they get a
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: run game to help him out.
- 1:00:58Speaker 2: And all right, appreciate thanks for the call. Joe. Yeah,
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: I just yeah, I don't know about the about the pressure,
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: I mean it is. I mean, I always the quote
- 1:01:12Speaker 2: I can that I hear Jason Garrett say all the time,
- 1:01:15Speaker 2: and it's true on this one. I mean, it comes
- 1:01:17Speaker 2: with the dinner. This you know, the pressure it comes.
- 1:01:21Speaker 2: It's when you order this dinner. This is what you get.
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: And uh, you know, I don't know if anyone telling
- 1:01:28Speaker 2: him that is going to change anything. It just it
- 1:01:31Speaker 2: just is. And you know, he I, I don't know,
- 1:01:37Speaker 2: it's it's it's I'm dumbfounded really with the way the
- 1:01:41Speaker 2: way it is with with with Dak and how how
- 1:01:43Speaker 2: he's played and and and what happened in the playoffs
- 1:01:47Speaker 2: and and all that. I think it was they were
- 1:01:50Speaker 2: shocked from the beginning and and they just all just collectively,
- 1:01:55Speaker 2: we're all on the same page that that that's the problem.
- 1:01:59Speaker 2: The off defense and special teams were all on the
- 1:02:02Speaker 2: same page. But they weren't on the same book. They
- 1:02:06Speaker 2: weren't even on the right shelf. That's the thing of
- 1:02:10Speaker 2: where the packers were. And so they could be on
- 1:02:12Speaker 2: the same page and they all played like crap. And
- 1:02:16Speaker 2: that's just putting it nicely. And so it wasn't all
- 1:02:19Speaker 2: on Dac, wasn't all on dan Quinn in his defense,
- 1:02:23Speaker 2: wasn't all on special teams. It was just they were
- 1:02:26Speaker 2: just they just played together together like crap. And that's
- 1:02:32Speaker 2: what happened. And that's what we're gonna have to deal
- 1:02:33Speaker 2: with until until the draft and training camp and all
- 1:02:36Speaker 2: that stuff. I mean, that game is going to be
- 1:02:38Speaker 2: sitting there. So all right, let's go to Bruce and Houston.
- 1:02:42Speaker 3: Hey, Nick, Bruce.
- 1:02:45Speaker 11: So eloquently put crap. Hey, Hey, you know what, I
- 1:02:50Speaker 11: think that's a good thing. I hope they still all thinking,
- 1:02:54Speaker 11: you know, off season. I know it would be me,
- 1:02:56Speaker 11: but you know, I've listened to the players lounge and
- 1:03:01Speaker 11: and and some of them like Zimber or even uh Rivera,
- 1:03:08Speaker 11: but they're afraid because of their age that they can't
- 1:03:11Speaker 11: get to these younger players. And of course we as fans.
- 1:03:15Speaker 11: I'm sixty two years old, so I'm like, you know,
- 1:03:18Speaker 11: we want we want the old guy, you know, somebody
- 1:03:20Speaker 11: in there to not cuss that. I mean, still treat
- 1:03:23Speaker 11: them like a man. But I mean, okay, so you
- 1:03:26Speaker 11: do get cussed at. I've been cussed at before. You know,
- 1:03:29Speaker 11: my dad always told me a pat on the back
- 1:03:32Speaker 11: is three feet from a good swift kicking the behind it.
- 1:03:35Speaker 11: Sometimes that's what old boy needs.
- 1:03:37Speaker 2: You know what I mean, sometime in the same hour,
- 1:03:40Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
- 1:03:41Speaker 11: Absolutely Now it's I don't know if they're you're around
- 1:03:45Speaker 11: more of the players, you know, and I know it's
- 1:03:47Speaker 11: totally different. I mean, they can only do so many
- 1:03:49Speaker 11: workouts because of the Players Association, and you know the
- 1:03:52Speaker 11: two days are gone.
- 1:03:53Speaker 4: Uh, the old football days.
- 1:03:55Speaker 11: That's why you want to ever see Parcels or Jimmy
- 1:03:57Speaker 11: Johnson coaching again, because they couldn't coach today's players. And
- 1:04:01Speaker 11: maybe maybe I answered my question right there with Timber
- 1:04:03Speaker 11: and Ron Rivera, but I would prefer to see them
- 1:04:07Speaker 11: because and I think Mike McCarthy, if he gets to
- 1:04:10Speaker 11: have any say on this, because they played like crap.
- 1:04:15Speaker 11: They all deserve just a one year contract and Dak
- 1:04:18Speaker 11: needs to be his contract needs to be in such
- 1:04:21Speaker 11: a way where he's got one year prove it to me.
- 1:04:23Speaker 11: If not, hey we get a comp pick from him
- 1:04:25Speaker 11: and we move on with either Lance or our draft
- 1:04:28Speaker 11: or quarterback this year. You know, it's all gonna tell
- 1:04:31Speaker 11: come free agency or which way that their chips are in,
- 1:04:36Speaker 11: so to speak. But it wouldn't you know, I think
- 1:04:39Speaker 11: that's what we need to to stop the run as
- 1:04:41Speaker 11: a Zimber type coach.
- 1:04:42Speaker 4: But maybe you could talk about it.
- 1:04:44Speaker 5: I don't know if these.
- 1:04:46Speaker 11: Tape type players would listen to that or not, but
- 1:04:49Speaker 11: you know, I'll hang up and listen.
- 1:04:51Speaker 9: Good go Nick.
- 1:04:52Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Thank you. Bruce. Bruce is another one
- 1:04:55Speaker 2: up there that was up there at the top when
- 1:04:57Speaker 2: I when I did my spreadsheet and sorted number of calls,
- 1:05:01Speaker 2: and there was a there was a couple up there
- 1:05:03Speaker 2: from Houston. Bruce definitely one of them. So appreciate that.
- 1:05:07Speaker 2: Love the mix, Love the mix of the first time
- 1:05:09Speaker 2: callers from Hawaii to Detroit to to the guys that
- 1:05:14Speaker 2: and we had Vancouver to start us off, and we
- 1:05:16Speaker 2: had our guys, you know, and the rigs you know
- 1:05:20Speaker 2: that that were that were there that've been there all season,
- 1:05:24Speaker 2: so you know, the whole Will these young players listen? Well,
- 1:05:30Speaker 2: I mean when did they take over?
- 1:05:34Speaker 5: You know?
- 1:05:34Speaker 2: I mean, like like that that's the thing that's frustrating.
- 1:05:36Speaker 2: And and you're you're not wrong by suggesting that, but
- 1:05:39Speaker 2: it's like, I think if they want to play, they will,
- 1:05:43Speaker 2: you know. And that's that that hasn't changed that much.
- 1:05:46Speaker 2: We haven't changed to the point where we're just not
- 1:05:49Speaker 2: gonna play. We're just gonna you know, we're gonna just
- 1:05:52Speaker 2: just take over and and and uh and doesn't care
- 1:05:55Speaker 2: what you know. This isn't varsity Blues where they just say,
- 1:05:58Speaker 2: all right, we're not going out there, Coach Kilmer, sorry,
- 1:06:01Speaker 2: you know, like like leave where we're running this. I mean,
- 1:06:05Speaker 2: they ain't gonna be like that. So maybe that's a
- 1:06:07Speaker 2: little extreme, but I I think I think that if
- 1:06:11Speaker 2: if they if it's all about the respect, if a
- 1:06:13Speaker 2: coach comes in and gets the players respect, then then
- 1:06:16Speaker 2: they'll they'll run through a brick wall form or whatever.
- 1:06:19Speaker 2: You know. I think that that'll that's still the case
- 1:06:22Speaker 2: even in today's NFL. And so that's what it comes
- 1:06:24Speaker 2: down to. And this guy, any coach you bring in,
- 1:06:28Speaker 2: they should have some skins on the wall. They should
- 1:06:30Speaker 2: be able to earn the guys respect. Once that happens,
- 1:06:34Speaker 2: then I think that they'll they'll play hard for him
- 1:06:36Speaker 2: and all that. And let's don't act like dan Quinn
- 1:06:38Speaker 2: was had a cupcake, you know, type of you know mentality.
- 1:06:42Speaker 2: It wasn't. But I just think it needs to be different,
- 1:06:44Speaker 2: but one way or another, just a different mentality and
- 1:06:47Speaker 2: a different scheme and you know, maybe a different player,
- 1:06:51Speaker 2: like like a linebacker, a different type or different prototype.
- 1:06:54Speaker 2: Just on defense. Things need to be a little different.
- 1:06:57Speaker 2: Things need to be different on offense as well, and
- 1:06:59Speaker 2: some in some capacit, especially with the offensive line. But
- 1:07:02Speaker 2: I do want to make things clear if you just
- 1:07:04Speaker 2: joined us for like the last fifty minutes, I mean,
- 1:07:06Speaker 2: Mike Zimmer has not been named head coach defensive coordinator
- 1:07:09Speaker 2: here at all. I think he's I think he's interviewing today,
- 1:07:13Speaker 2: but they's not. You know, it sounds like you listen
- 1:07:15Speaker 2: to all the calls, that has not been the case.
- 1:07:17Speaker 2: It still seems pretty wide open. But like I said,
- 1:07:20Speaker 2: I would imagine a decision will be made at some
- 1:07:22Speaker 2: point here. I would think this week. You know. Now,
- 1:07:26Speaker 2: I do think the NFL does frown upon announcements getting
- 1:07:29Speaker 2: closer to the game, so I think if that was
- 1:07:33Speaker 2: from other teams. I do remember one year Jerry and
- 1:07:37Speaker 2: at the Super Bowl. One year the Emmett retired and
- 1:07:39Speaker 2: they had a press conference out there, you know, at
- 1:07:41Speaker 2: the Super Bowl and Cowboy helmet and big press conference.
- 1:07:44Speaker 2: I don't think the league likes that. Now, defensive coordinator position. Again,
- 1:07:48Speaker 2: it doesn't mean you have to wait that long. But look,
- 1:07:51Speaker 2: look for later this week, maybe a Thursday or even
- 1:07:54Speaker 2: a Friday. Something happened with the Cowboys. All right, great stuff.
- 1:07:57Speaker 2: This will be our only show of the week. I
- 1:07:59Speaker 2: won't have a show on Thursday. I'll be as we
- 1:08:02Speaker 2: talked about, I'll be at the super Bowl just for
- 1:08:04Speaker 2: the day and Thursday, just being there and try to
- 1:08:07Speaker 2: see if I can, uh, if we can get Darren
- 1:08:10Speaker 2: what'son end of the bring bring into the Hall of Fame,
- 1:08:13Speaker 2: and uh, maybe some of our players, maybe they win
- 1:08:15Speaker 2: some awards. Like I've said before, if Deron Bland doesn't
- 1:08:18Speaker 2: win Defensive Player of the Year, they just need to
- 1:08:20Speaker 2: change the name to something else. They used to change
- 1:08:22Speaker 2: the name of the award to the m v P
- 1:08:25Speaker 2: or or whatever, because I don't think any defensive player
- 1:08:28Speaker 2: has had a better year than Dean Bland. Those other
- 1:08:30Speaker 2: guys did a nice job, but win did sacks become
- 1:08:33Speaker 2: more important than picks and definitely didn't become bigger than
- 1:08:36Speaker 2: pick sixes. So he's not the most valuable. He's not
- 1:08:40Speaker 2: he's not gonna be, you know, not the highest paid.
- 1:08:42Speaker 2: I think Deron Bland was the defensive player of the
- 1:08:46Speaker 2: year led the league and picks, which is still a
- 1:08:49Speaker 2: big deal. Ed they let every player in the history
- 1:08:52Speaker 2: of the NFL and pick sixes and and you know,
- 1:08:55Speaker 2: hey had a remarkable season. I think he should be
- 1:08:58Speaker 2: Defensive Player of the Year. But we'll see if that happens.
- 1:09:01Speaker 2: I'll be there to talk to him, and he'll probably
- 1:09:03Speaker 2: have not a lot to say about that. So that's
- 1:09:05Speaker 2: just Duran being Deran. But that's okay. All right, great show, guys,
- 1:09:09Speaker 2: appreciate all the calls and the text. Chris Beam as always,
- 1:09:12Speaker 2: thanks for running the board. We will see you next Tuesday.
- 1:09:15Speaker 2: We'll talk about the offseason officially being here when the
- 1:09:18Speaker 2: Super Bowl's over. Now, we'll see what happens. We'll talk
- 1:09:20Speaker 2: about it next week. All right, see you guys next time.
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