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LSU's BIGGEST WORRY vs Clemson Tigers ANSWERED! | Lane Kiffin Drama · SEC Football Addiction

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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to college football addiction. Something brand new for
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  Speaker 2: you guys. We've had Graham on a ton to talk UGA.
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  Speaker 2: But Graham, I think excels. And I'll pat you on
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  Speaker 2: excels at like the deep dive analysis. And so we're
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  Speaker 2: just kind of deep dive onto a few things. Graham's
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  Speaker 2: You know, all of our content on the channel brought
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  Speaker 2: I'm excited to do this. We're going to start with
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  Speaker 2: Clemson LSU. There's maybe more going on off the field
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  Speaker 2: with these teams than there is on the field. But overall,
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  Speaker 2: I am really excited to do this.
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited as well, man. I know you're busy. I'm busy.
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  Speaker 3: So I think it speaks to the mutual respect that
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  Speaker 3: we have for one another, that both.
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  Speaker 1: Of us want to carve out the time to do
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  Speaker 1: this with each other.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, to your point, I think it's a lot
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  Speaker 3: more intriguing for me at this moment in my career,
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  Speaker 3: I guess, to dive deep on two or three games
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  Speaker 3: a week than to try and read box scores for
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  Speaker 3: four or five minutes on a lot. So I'm excited
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  Speaker 3: about the opportunity that this kind of presents.
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  Speaker 1: And, uh, I think that.
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  Speaker 3: Your audience and what you've built, uh, hopefully we'll kind
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  Speaker 3: do in this.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So let's jump right into it. That's our one-time introduction.
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  Speaker 2: If people miss that, then sorry, you should, you should
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  Speaker 2: have watched the Clemson LSU preview. Um, We don't have to,
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  Speaker 2: we can talk about any angle of this that you want,
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  Speaker 2: but maybe without going too deep into all of the
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  Speaker 2: off field drama, which I did appreciate Debo Sweeney's pun today,
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  Speaker 2: thought that was really good. Do you buy, I don't
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  Speaker 2: buy so much into the idea that what's happening off
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  Speaker 2: the field with LSU or any program is, really makes
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  Speaker 2: a massive impact on what happens when the kickoff starts. Now,
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  Speaker 2: can it affect prep? Can it affect some of the
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  Speaker 2: things that happen throughout the week? Maybe. I'll buy that
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  Speaker 2: a little more. I truly think when Clemson and LSU
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  Speaker 2: kick off on Saturday Night in Death Valley, we're just
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  Speaker 2: getting a hell of a football game. And maybe I'm
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  Speaker 2: Now back to chatting with Graham.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, look, I can recall sort of having
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  Speaker 3: to eat crow after the Michigan Penn state game in 2023, where.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, like this is too distracting.
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  Speaker 3: There's no way that Michigan's going to be able to
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  Speaker 3: get it together and focus for this game.
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  Speaker 1: And then they rallied around.
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  Speaker 3: That distraction and we, have seen that with teams a
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  Speaker 3: lot recently in college football.
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  Speaker 1: We saw that with Ole Miss last year.
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  Speaker 3: So it's hard to say how anybody's going to respond
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  Speaker 3: to this, but the prep side of this I do
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  Speaker 3: find interesting, right? Like in 2020, when Lane was in
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  Speaker 3: his first season at Ole Miss, their first game, they
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  Speaker 3: played Florida and Oxford, and that game was a total shootout.
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  Speaker 1: And that Florida offense was great.
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  Speaker 3: Kyle Trask, Kyle Pitts, Tony, a lot of stars on
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  Speaker 3: the field.
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  Speaker 1: But that moment in college football.
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  Speaker 3: Was so uniquely tailored, in my opinion, to letting offenses–
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that was a historic offensive season across the sport.
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  Speaker 3: Some of that came back to COVID restrictions and how
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  Speaker 3: teams could practice and all that. But the point I
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  Speaker 3: make in bringing that back up is I think there's
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  Speaker 3: sort of this assumption that any time Lane Kiffin gets
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  Speaker 3: onto a football field with a group of college football
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  Speaker 3: players– that that team's just going to go out and
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  Speaker 3: the offense is going to hum up and down the field.
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  Speaker 3: And in a large part, that is correct. I just
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  Speaker 3: think this is a really unique spot with so many
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  Speaker 3: portal players that have come into LSU and then, you know,
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  Speaker 3: all the staff turnover and you've got guys coming in,
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  Speaker 3: you know, to play tight end, like, earlier this week
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  Speaker 3: in that whole situation. So we've never seen anything like
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  Speaker 3: it before. I would be lying if I sat here
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  Speaker 3: and said that I think we can predict it, but
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  Speaker 3: I do look back on last year's LSU offense. And
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  Speaker 3: I know that there's been staff turnover. I know that
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  Speaker 3: they turned this roster over in the portal, but you're
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  Speaker 3: still talking about a team that was 126 in the
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  Speaker 3: country and expected points added per rush, 131st in the
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  Speaker 3: country and average third down distance and a lot of
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  Speaker 3: problems with that offense. Like they were, they were in
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  Speaker 3: the hundreds or worse in pretty much every major offensive category.
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  Speaker 1: On the defensive side of the ball. Like Clemson, I
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  Speaker 1: know they had a rough.
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  Speaker 3: Season last year, but they, they were pretty good in
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  Speaker 3: certain respects, like 31st nationally and third and fourth down
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  Speaker 3: success rate, which is essentially just measuring.
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  Speaker 1: Did they get off the field? You know? Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Like not top 10, but, but certainly not bad. They
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  Speaker 3: were fourth in average third down distance allowed. Eight yards
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  Speaker 3: was their average third down faced as a defense, which
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  Speaker 3: is exceptional. So I do think that there's some of
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  Speaker 3: that that comes into play here for me. When you
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  Speaker 3: look at overall snaps in college football that came out
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  Speaker 3: of the portal.
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  Speaker 1: This year, LSU is fourth.
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  Speaker 3: And I am sure Clemson is probably somewhere way down.
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  Speaker 1: In the hundreds. I know they're starting to play in
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  Speaker 1: the portal a little bit. 102nd was Clemson.
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  Speaker 3: 3,100 portal snaps at Clemson versus 13,511 portal snaps brought
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  Speaker 3: into the program from LSU. So I do think that
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  Speaker 3: there's an advantage to Clemson, even if all this mess
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  Speaker 3: wasn't going on, just in.
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  Speaker 1: Some of that continuity.
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  Speaker 3: Now, they have their own coordinator change with Chad Morris
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  Speaker 3: coming back, but I highly doubt that Davo hired Chad
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  Speaker 3: Morris to come in and do an offensive overall.
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  Speaker 1: He came in to run Davo's offense, which is what
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  Speaker 1: Davo wants to run. So I expect.
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  Speaker 3: Christopher Vazina and, you know, that crew of guys that
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  Speaker 3: they're putting out there offensively to run the offense they've
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  Speaker 3: run in practice for the last however many years they've
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  Speaker 3: been in the program.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I do wonder, I mean, you wonder about
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  Speaker 2: when you look at this, I am of the belief
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  Speaker 2: that I don't know that I think LSU is going
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  Speaker 2: to be elite this year, but I am of the
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  Speaker 2: belief that they do figure out the offense. Again, when
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  Speaker 2: Lane and Charlie are on that side, I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: buy it. I don't care who the starting 11 is.
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  Speaker 2: I think they're going to be able to figure it out.
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  Speaker 2: The question is, do they figure it out week one?
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  Speaker 2: against a talented Clemson team that has his deficiencies. And
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  Speaker 2: we'll talk about some of those in a moment. Do
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  Speaker 2: they figure it out week one with all the pressure
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  Speaker 2: with a quarterback that missed some reps in spring, like
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  Speaker 2: all the factors that are playing on this on the field,
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  Speaker 2: off the field. Is it enough week one to go
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  Speaker 2: out and get the win now from the Clemson perspective,
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  Speaker 2: you've got a guy making a start and has not,
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  Speaker 2: I think Vazina has one start this year when Kate
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  Speaker 2: got her last year, you had a guy making his
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  Speaker 2: second start, but for all intents and purposes, first time
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  Speaker 2: as a full-time starter in maybe the worst place that
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  Speaker 2: you could make a first time start in all of
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  Speaker 2: college football, right? Like maybe in all of football, right?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if any NFL stadiums are this intimidating and,
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  Speaker 2: And not only we talk about like the off field
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  Speaker 2: circus for LSU. Well, that's probably a good thing for
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  Speaker 2: how crazy death Valley is going to be on Saturday night,
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  Speaker 2: because that crowd will be as lit as they've ever
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  Speaker 2: been for his first game. So you think about that?
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  Speaker 2: You think about Vic Burley, not playing. I wonder if,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, LSU against, you know, running the ball this year,
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  Speaker 2: I expect that to take another step forward this year
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  Speaker 2: with some of the talent again in game one. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not sure, but by game six, I do. So again,
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  Speaker 2: With Vic Burley not being there, how much of an
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  Speaker 2: impact is that? With those portal, you mentioned not a
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  Speaker 2: lot of snaps out of the portal. Where there are
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  Speaker 2: a lot of snaps out of the portal is in
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  Speaker 2: that secondary. And how does that matchup look? So when
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  Speaker 2: you really look at some of the matchups that are
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  Speaker 2: deeper than just, oh, well, LSU's got paid this much
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  Speaker 2: for a roster and Dabo's on his way out. When
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  Speaker 2: you look deeper at this, the matchups are fascinating in
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  Speaker 2: this game. And if you could tell me those three
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  Speaker 2: things that I mentioned, Clemson secondary, how the true freshman plays,
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  Speaker 2: and what LSU's run game looks like against Clemson's defensive line, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I could very easily tell you who's going to.
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  Speaker 1: Win this game. Well, for sure. And I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I I know that.
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  Speaker 3: LSU brought in Jordan Seton and like, we talk, I
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  Speaker 3: think way too much in college football about what teams
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  Speaker 3: brought in from the portal and maybe not enough about
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  Speaker 3: what they lost. Cause like, if you've got water leaking
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  Speaker 3: out of the bottom of the cup and you're pouring
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  Speaker 3: water in the top, does the level dramatically change?
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: So I, I, I know they brought in Seton. I
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  Speaker 3: liked obviously Seton, great prospect, super athletic, but you know,
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  Speaker 3: Burley being out certainly helps LSU upfront for sure. But like,
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  Speaker 3: there are some guys on this offensive line at LSU
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  Speaker 3: that I have questions about. Like Alouba is a guy
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  Speaker 3: that was at Georgia at one point in his career
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  Speaker 3: and has taken kind of a circuitous path back to
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  Speaker 3: the SEC. But like, this is kind of a different animal. Uh, the,
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  Speaker 3: the guard positions in general for LSU in this game,
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  Speaker 3: I have questions about, uh, you know, and, and I,
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  Speaker 3: I also look at, I know Burley's out on the
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  Speaker 3: defensive line, but, uh, we'll help the kid for, for
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  Speaker 3: Clemson didn't play as many snaps last year, like as,
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  Speaker 3: as Burley did, or doesn't have the profile of Burley.
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  Speaker 1: But if you just kind of.
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  Speaker 3: Look at how he graded out as a pass rusher
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  Speaker 3: from an efficiency standpoint, from, um, from a lot of
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  Speaker 3: different areas.
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  Speaker 1: Like he is a very good edge defender.
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  Speaker 3: And at 6'6, 260 pounds, he has some length that
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  Speaker 3: can be problematic if you're not really like.
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  Speaker 1: Getting on your blocks and executing them close to perfectly.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm very interested to see that upfront matchup because
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  Speaker 3: I think with LSU or I should say with Lane
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  Speaker 3: in general and Charlie Weiss Jr. in general, like we
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  Speaker 3: all talk about the passing offense and, and for good reason. So,
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  Speaker 3: but you look at like the, the better teams that
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  Speaker 3: they've had and the better moments that they've had together.
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  Speaker 3: It's key on Lacey, you know, running for all those
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  Speaker 3: yards last year at Ole Miss, right? Like the run
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  Speaker 3: game and the balance is really what creates problems. And
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  Speaker 3: Clemson as a defense, even as that program has moved
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  Speaker 3: off of, you know, national title contender status, it's been
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  Speaker 3: a good run defense and they have good pieces in
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  Speaker 3: that front seven and Sammy Brown and, you know, a
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  Speaker 3: lot of athleticism up front and there's still sort of
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  Speaker 3: some remnants of the recruiting that we used to see
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  Speaker 3: from Clemson in that front seven, maybe more than anywhere else. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: A bigger picture of zoom out. See, like I told
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  Speaker 2: you at the beginning, Graham's, really good at getting into the,
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  Speaker 2: the deep details. And I'm going to like, Oh, well,
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  Speaker 2: how does the, how's the uniform color impact things? But
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  Speaker 2: I won't go that big picture, but how much do
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  Speaker 2: you think, how much do you think though? Cause I,
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  Speaker 2: I don't buy so much into like the, you know,
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  Speaker 2: this circus that's going on over here is going to
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  Speaker 2: impact the game. What I do buy into is pressure.
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  Speaker 2: And I had a pressure on Lane Kiffin in, in
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  Speaker 2: Baton Rouge than there ever was for any single, single
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  Speaker 2: game in, in, I also think there's a bigger pressure
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  Speaker 2: on this LSU roster that does have to figure out
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  Speaker 2: how to jump together for the first time against a
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  Speaker 2: quality opponent. I know Clemson is not what they were
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  Speaker 2: in 2016. That's fine. They were voted 26th in the
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  Speaker 2: AP poll. They're not like some team that's ranked 50th.
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  Speaker 2: They could very easily have swapped spots with Missouri and
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  Speaker 2: be right there as a ranked matchup. And I'm actually
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  Speaker 2: a little surprised that they weren't just for that singular reason.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't think Clemson has anything. I think the
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  Speaker 2: other side of this is Clemson has no pressure on them.
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  Speaker 2: I think there's an overall pressure on Dabo to kind
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  Speaker 2: of get things back on the right path. But for Clemson, man,
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  Speaker 2: I think you just get to go out swinging. And
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  Speaker 2: I do think you at times see teams... Embrace that.
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  Speaker 2: Hey man, nobody believes in us. There's no pressure on us.
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  Speaker 2: We'll just go out and play loose and have fun.
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  Speaker 2: And sometimes that works out really well for teams.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes it doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes the talent gap is too big. If LSU's offense
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  Speaker 2: clicks in game one, I think it could be a
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  Speaker 2: long night for Clemson. I mean, I know he is
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  Speaker 2: at Miami and we're excited about what Minson can do,
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  Speaker 2: but Duke put 46 up on them last year in
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  Speaker 2: their Death Valley. So yeah, I think it could go
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  Speaker 2: either way. But when I look at pressure in this game,
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't feel like a must win for Clemson.
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  Speaker 1: It feels.
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  Speaker 2: Must wins the right word, but with a trip to
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  Speaker 2: Oxford and then a and M coming in later this month,
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  Speaker 2: this feels like a pretty close to a must win
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  Speaker 2: for LSU. When you think about where the two programs are.
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  Speaker 1: It does.
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  Speaker 3: And look, I mean like this, you know, obviously depending
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  Speaker 3: on how this game goes, it could, it could really
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  Speaker 3: just add another piece to the pile on the, the
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  Speaker 3: sort of narrative on where Dabo is in his career arc.
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  Speaker 1: At Clemson specifically and, But man, you know, just.
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  Speaker 3: Like, look, I live in North Georgia. I'm not far
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  Speaker 3: from Clemson. You know, Athens and Clemson are like an
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  Speaker 3: hour and 20 minutes down the road from each other.
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  Speaker 3: And so I do know people around that program. And
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  Speaker 3: everyone that you talk to around that program this offseason
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  Speaker 3: is not like in the opinion of like no one's saying, hey,
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  Speaker 3: we're going to shock the world or anything like that.
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  Speaker 3: But like everyone agrees that it's a different vibe. than
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  Speaker 3: has been around for a little while. And it's, it's
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  Speaker 3: been kind of workmanlike and nothing, you know, has been
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  Speaker 3: really given positional battle wise. And I just, I love
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  Speaker 3: this spot for them. And yeah, like you can talk
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  Speaker 3: about like, we can do this thing sometimes, right. Where
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  Speaker 3: we become like soothsayers in the, you know, in the
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  Speaker 3: ancient world or whatever. And we're trying to like huff
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  Speaker 3: poisonous gases from a geyser or some shit. But like
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  Speaker 3: at the end of the day, I do really like
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  Speaker 3: this spot for them. Dabo, like at his best has
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  Speaker 3: always been, you know, we're going to rally BYOG.
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  Speaker 1: And this is a great, great moment for that. And,
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  Speaker 1: and I also, I look at sort of what they've got.
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  Speaker 3: The, the quarterback situation, like, is he this Harold heralded prospect?
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  Speaker 1: No, not, but like, look, I mean, there's a huge
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  Speaker 1: bust rate on these five-star kids. Okay. There is.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: So I'm not convinced that Clemson can't go out and,
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: and workshop effective and efficient offense with, I can never
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: say his name, Vazina, but I do have a lot
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: of questions about how they'll hold up on the offensive line.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: Like that, that to me is the, the worry and
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: if they can if they can win enough of those
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: battles like at the tackle positions with umami ellen coming
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: off the edge for lsu who is very good and
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: is worthwhile of being worried about uh they've got good
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: receivers downfield and and lsu you know secondaries old mrs
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: secondaries even at lane's best shaky at best right like
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: i have questions about sort of what the DB situation
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: will look like for LSU this season. I think they'll
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: eventually recruit their way out of that. But in this
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: game with some of these guys that Clemson has on
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: the outside with Wesco and more, I.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Just think there's a chance that they can kind of
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: turn this.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: Into a little bit of a slog and Hey, like 50,
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: 50 balls can be the great equalizer sometimes in college football.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: If they can just convince this kid to, cut it loose. Like,
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: that's what I think you want to see if you're
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: a Clemson fan more than anything is.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Just man, like go out there.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: And if you get beat, you get beat, but take
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: your shots, you know, like force the issue in some places,
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: push the ball downfield. Don't try to live in, you know,
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: like don't come home with Mazina having a.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Average depth of target of like 4.6 yards. If that happens,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: then you're getting beat no matter what.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: So, you know, I think it's the caveat I would
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: offer on all of this is like, what, I think
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: we'll do.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: On this show throughout the season is, is going to be.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Much, much easier when the more priors we get and
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: the more.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: We get to watch.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: So like, this is a little bit of a bag
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: of mystery, but if you are telling me that I
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: get to take Clemson in this spot and what is
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: the up-to-date spread on this game?
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: 10 and a half last time I looked. Yeah.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: If you're giving me over 10, I'm taking it. I'm
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: taking it. And, you know, I, it just feels like
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: a game to me.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: It's either going to come down to, you know, five
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: to eight points or something like that, or LSU is
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: going to blast them.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: And it's just going to be this big tidal wave.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: So if someone wanted to go out there and hit
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: like some alt line or something like that, like I
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: always liked that idea in week one and week two,
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: because I think that wines often operate off of, bad
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: assumptions early in the season from people like us in
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: the media. But I do, I do just like this
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: spot for Clemson in terms of covering the spread and
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: keeping it close. I would be surprised if they won
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: this game, very surprised, but I'm not going to at
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: all be surprised if they come.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm in the same spot. I think Clemson
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: is a little, and I liked, I really liked what
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: you said. I think these shows will be more interesting
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: and better once we have, three data points and then
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: five data points and then seven data points. And by
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: the time, you know, kind of when we know what
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: teams are, LSU is one of the hardest teams to evaluate.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're a top 10 team because of how
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: much talent they have. They're a 10 and a half
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: point favorite because of how much talent they have playing
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: at home, Lincoln, all of those things. And I, I
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: don't even think that's necessarily wrong, like in theory, but man,
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: how many times have we seen really talented teams take
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: a little while to get going? I mean, this very
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: LSU team, like different coach, but lost back-to-back years to
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: a less talented Florida state team. Now I think Florida
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: state was really good in 2023. And as a fan
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: of them, like I'm not trying to disparage them, but
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: going into that game, going in both those games. LSU
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: had a talent advantage. If you look at the, the
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: composite or the recruiting rankings or whatever it is like
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: now was Florida state playing better throughout the year.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, you can buy that, but we've seen that
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: when teams are largely assembled through the portal, we've seen
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: some time for them to get up and get going.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: And so I, and I, and on the other side
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: of that, I think Clemson is a, I don't think
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: they're a dark horse for the ACC mostly because that's
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: a one team league at this moment. And we'll see if,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: if SMU or Louisville or, you know, Virginia tech or Clemson,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: everybody can jump up and maybe Virginia after this week
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: can jump up and take that from Miami. But I
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: think Clemson is going to be a little bit better
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: than people think they are. Now I'm not predicting to
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: win 10 games, but it wouldn't shock me at all.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: If Clemson was like eight, nine wins by the end
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: of the year and beat the teams they were supposed
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: to drop to the tough ones that, you know, were,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: they play Miami, they play LSU.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Well there, there's a talent differential there that I don't
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: think they can overcome. It wouldn't be surprising to me
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: if they won all the rest of their games, save one.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: And so I think Clemson's a little undervalued. I don't
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: know that I'm saying that LSU is like overvalued per se,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: but they might be just because we're basing a lot
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: of this on talent alone. And we've never seen this
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: team play together. We'll know a lot more by the
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: time we get to like the end of the first quarter,
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: I would think. But until we get there, it's kind
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: of hard to project. I like LSU to win. I,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: think it's close to 10, but I think the hook
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: is what scares me. So I'll take Clemson to cover.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And one other thing I'll say on this too,
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: is without going into, you know, a five minute deal,
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: if you look at some of the numbers on Sam Levitt, like,
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: you know, I know that he was dealing with injuries.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Last year and all that, but I do have questions.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: Like I'm not, I do think that there's sort of
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: just an assumption that like, he's going to come in
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: and just light the world on fire and, Really, he's
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: been good in his career when throwing to one specific
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: wide receiver at Arizona State while having Cam Scadabo creating
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: a historically good season that allowed play action to function
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: really well. There's a lot of things that need to
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: come together for LSU. I just feel like the safe
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: side to be on is that hook is really nice,
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: that 10.5.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Nine and a half, I'd have to think a lot harder,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: I think. But Vegas is really good at what they do.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: So here comes an 11-point LSU win just to screw us.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: I'm going to track this. I'm going to track this
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: all year. We're both taking LSU to win. We're both
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: taking Clemson to cover. We'll see if we get better
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: through the year as more data points come along.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Let's...