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Bittisode 002 Halloween Origins: Trick or Treat · Who Did What Now With Katie Charlwood

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  Speaker 4: Hi, everybody, and welcome back to Who and What now
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  Speaker 4: the history podcast That's not your History Class, Bettysoid with
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  Speaker 4: me your exceptional host, Kerrie Charlewood, history hussey and reader
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  Speaker 4: of books. I realized I didn't give any context last
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  Speaker 4: week when I started the Bettysodes. Well, so the planets
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  Speaker 4: that every week all going well if I don't have
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  Speaker 4: a breakdown, I will have a main episode released every
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  Speaker 4: Tuesday and a Betty Soode released on a Thursday. Obviously,
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  Speaker 4: the main episode will be like whatever main story that
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  Speaker 4: I can cover in twenty to thirty minutes, and the
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  Speaker 4: Bettysode is a little bit of history. I know I
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  Speaker 4: could have been normal and called it a minisode, but
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  Speaker 4: let's face it, that wasn't gonna happen. So yeah, I
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  Speaker 4: decided to call it a bitty sood because it's little
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  Speaker 4: bits of history. Yeah, so like it's gonna be a
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  Speaker 4: little bit of history. So it's like it's probably something
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  Speaker 4: that I either couldn't flesh out to be like a
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  Speaker 4: main episode, or or maybe I couldn't fit it in.
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  Speaker 4: You know, sometimes things are tight squeeze, you know what
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  Speaker 4: I mean. But I also want to talk about the
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  Speaker 4: little bits of history that we kind of overlook sometimes
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  Speaker 4: as well. And something I would love to do in
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  Speaker 4: the future of when people if people want to share
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  Speaker 4: their personal histories or like family history stuff like that.
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  Speaker 4: I know I have a few stories to tell that
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  Speaker 4: I am. I think I'm legally allowed to talk about.
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  Speaker 4: I'm fairly certain, but homes to say, Oh, we'll find out.
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  Speaker 4: Because history is more than just dates and numbers and battles.
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  Speaker 4: It's the people that lived within it. Like an event
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  Speaker 4: is only an event because of people, because it affects people.
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  Speaker 4: But since it is this spooky season, I'm going to
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  Speaker 4: continue telling you about the origins of Halloween, and this
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  Speaker 4: week we're going to talk about trick or trading, which
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  Speaker 4: is so much weirder than you'd think. So the origins
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  Speaker 4: of trigg or trading if you really want to go
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  Speaker 4: back to the very start, we're heading back to everybody's
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  Speaker 4: favorite pagans, the Celts, while they were celebrating sewn, which
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  Speaker 4: we discussed last week. If you haven't listened to the
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  Speaker 4: soun episode, you don't have to have listened to it
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  Speaker 4: to know what's going on here, but it's always good
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  Speaker 4: for context, so go back and listen to it and
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  Speaker 4: write in review five stars. Woo say nice things. So
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  Speaker 4: initially what they would do is they would dress up
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  Speaker 4: as the shee. Other worldly spirits wouldn't recognize them and
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  Speaker 4: basically wouldn't fuck with them, you know, so they would
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  Speaker 4: be safe from the sheep. And in the sort of
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  Speaker 4: areas where the celts were, like you know, Scotland, Ireland, Wales,
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  Speaker 4: this tradition would continue on. So yeah, by the time
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  Speaker 4: the Middle Ages comes around, the mummers comes into it.
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  Speaker 4: So people would wear straw masks and go from like
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  Speaker 4: door to door in costume, and you would provide an act.
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  Speaker 4: So you would like recite a poem or sing a
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  Speaker 4: song or dance a wee jig. You would have to
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  Speaker 4: do something. You would earn your treat, so would you
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  Speaker 4: you'd get like fit and drink and up until in
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  Speaker 4: like up until the nineties, at the very least in Ireland,
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  Speaker 4: in rural Ireland anyway, the mummers was still a thing.
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  Speaker 4: So when you went from house to house you would perform,
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  Speaker 4: you'd do a wee song, we jig whatever, and people
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  Speaker 4: would give you money. They didn't give you candy or
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  Speaker 4: sweets or chocolate. Nah, they give you money. Because I
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  Speaker 4: remember doing it when I moved here and what we
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  Speaker 4: did because we were fucking smart. So not only did
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  Speaker 4: we go around the houses, but like every village have
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  Speaker 4: like six or seven pubs, so we went to every
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  Speaker 4: pub and did you know the you know, the we
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  Speaker 4: jigger or whatever, and there was like a whip round
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  Speaker 4: in the pop and everybody's drunk as farts, so they're
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  Speaker 4: just like throwing change at us, and we were all
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  Speaker 4: for those punts and pennies. Let me tell you, it
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  Speaker 4: was glorious. So let's get back on track. Back to this,
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  Speaker 4: and the fourteen hundreds is part of like hallow mass,
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  Speaker 4: hallow tied, whatever you want to call it. It was
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  Speaker 4: very much like a Christian thing. Children and some adults,
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  Speaker 4: basically the less fortunate, the poor people, the peasants. They
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  Speaker 4: would travel round in costume to like the wealthier people,
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  Speaker 4: and I think the idea was to represent the dead effectively,
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  Speaker 4: and they would like sing and sabe poems, and so
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  Speaker 4: they would go out to the rich people effectively, people
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  Speaker 4: who weren't powers fuck, and they would ask them for
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  Speaker 4: soul cakes in return for them praying for their souls,
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  Speaker 4: which sounds incredibly exciting and not at all really sad
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  Speaker 4: and depressing. So this souling as it was known, basically
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  Speaker 4: happened in like sort of the more Christiane parts of
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  Speaker 4: Britain and the Netherlands, South Austria, southern Germany. Basically we're
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  Speaker 4: all the incredibly religious people were by the fifteen hundred's.
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  Speaker 4: By the sixteenth century guysing comes into play, so we
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  Speaker 4: know it started by the sixteenth century. It could have
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  Speaker 4: been going before that, but nobody wrote shit down, but
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  Speaker 4: you know, sometimes with access to a time machine we
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  Speaker 4: can have to rely on that the small accounts we have,
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  Speaker 4: so we know it started in the sort of sixteenth century,
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  Speaker 4: but by the eighteenth and nineteenth century it's very much
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  Speaker 4: happening like across the board sort of Scotland, Ireland, Wales.
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  Speaker 4: So like in Ireland, they would be a man, so
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  Speaker 4: basically there would be one adult dressed as a white horse,
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  Speaker 4: a mayor in fact, and he would basically take the
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  Speaker 4: young'ins like from house to house and they would recite
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  Speaker 4: these like pagan poems exchange for goodies for food. And
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  Speaker 4: the way it worked was if you were kind enough
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  Speaker 4: to donate some lovely goodies to the larvae and his crew,
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  Speaker 4: you would receive good fortune from the marcalla but if
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  Speaker 4: you didn't, the mcalla would bring you misfortune. Ah, I
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  Speaker 4: see it's starting to it's starting away its way in
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  Speaker 4: now in Scotland, children would go, you know, from house
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  Speaker 4: to house and I don't want to say black face,
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  Speaker 4: but they painted their faces black and they've dressed all
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  Speaker 4: in white and they would you know, do the same thing.
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  Speaker 4: It'd be like rhymes and poetry and stuff like that,
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  Speaker 4: and if they were not you know, treated well, would
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  Speaker 4: basically threaten you if you weren't good to them, you
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  Speaker 4: know what I mean, like they were gonna they were good,
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  Speaker 4: they were gonna fuck your shit up, you know. And
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  Speaker 4: and wales and whales. It actually started as like adult
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  Speaker 4: men would basically go around peasants usually going around from
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  Speaker 4: you know, place to place, paced up as the dead,
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  Speaker 4: going round asking for stuff, and they would have they
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  Speaker 4: would trying to look like as scary as possible because
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  Speaker 4: they're meant to be like representatives of the dead. And
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  Speaker 4: something that happened with guysing something you see along the
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  Speaker 4: sort of Celtic nations is because they're traveling at night,
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  Speaker 4: they're usually traveling, you know, they had lanterns, but not
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  Speaker 4: ordinary lanterns. They were carved out of turnips, which we'll
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  Speaker 4: talk about another time. Now let's skip forward. So guysing
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  Speaker 4: and mummers and things like that. The sort of the
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  Speaker 4: costume and a little bit of that was brought to
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  Speaker 4: America with the influx of immigrants from Ireland, especially because
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  Speaker 4: they really went out there because merely they didn't really
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  Speaker 4: have a choice. But the practice of this it didn't
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  Speaker 4: really you know, it happened a little bit, but not
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  Speaker 4: very often. So basically around the eighteen seventies, the sort
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  Speaker 4: of the idea remurgers with sort of the immigrant class,
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  Speaker 4: especially with the ragamuffin day adding and basically are in
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  Speaker 4: about New York and Chicago and places like that. On Thanksgiving,
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  Speaker 4: children would go around the streets asking, you know, goodies
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  Speaker 4: and they would be like a roger with like candies, fruits, pennies,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, initially they would be dressed up as hoboats,
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  Speaker 4: that's right, hoboats. They wanted to dress like vagrants and
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  Speaker 4: beggars and stuff like that. So kids would go around
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  Speaker 4: in costumes begging strangers for treats. Like That's how it started.
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  Speaker 4: And because of this, the kids were nicknamed as ragamuffins
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  Speaker 4: and something else that would happen along this time was
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  Speaker 4: they would like nick somebody's wheel and be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna give it back to unless she give
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  Speaker 4: me like the candy apple or whatever. And they would
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  Speaker 4: even have a parade. So that's what they did. By
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  Speaker 4: the time the late twenties and thirties hits, ragamuffins they
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  Speaker 4: just disappears. And those two reasons for this. One The
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  Speaker 4: New York Times was like, this needs to end because
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  Speaker 4: it's it's a distraction for adults and enriched people find
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  Speaker 4: it so unsophisticated. And the second thing was the Great Depression,
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  Speaker 4: because because although it's jolly and fun to go around
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  Speaker 4: and ask people for stuff, because because when the Great
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  Speaker 4: Depression hits in nineteen twenty nine, you've got people genuinely
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  Speaker 4: begging to survive. So the idea of dressing up as
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  Speaker 4: a poor person and begging for treats kind of loses
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  Speaker 4: its luster aly bit. And you know, not only that,
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  Speaker 4: but people didn't really have the option the ability to
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  Speaker 4: give away treats or goods or pennies. You know, they
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  Speaker 4: just didn't have that. So the so the term trick
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  Speaker 4: or treating it appears during this time, but it doesn't
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  Speaker 4: really into the foreground until like the nineteen forties, nineteen fifties,
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  Speaker 4: because in the nineteen fifties the baby boom, because it's
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  Speaker 4: in the nineteen fifties that trick or treating really comes
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  Speaker 4: back with a passion, really comes back with a passion,
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  Speaker 4: basically because of post War America, because there's been a
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  Speaker 4: baby boom, because what happens after every great horrific event,
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  Speaker 4: there's a baby boom. So there is a baby boom
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  Speaker 4: post World War two, and especially in America and Canada.
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  Speaker 4: So because they were trying to make it more family
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  Speaker 4: friendly and fun and sort of boost this whole idea,
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  Speaker 4: and they would dress up in costume. What really helps
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  Speaker 4: garner popularity is because it shows up on Disney cartoons,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the Peanuts comic strip, and a bunch of
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  Speaker 4: like kids magazines and stuff like that, and so like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the parties start happening again, neighborhoods get involved,
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  Speaker 4: and it becomes basically what it is today, kids going
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  Speaker 4: door to door in costume, being handed chocolate, being handed
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  Speaker 4: treats and candy and goodies, and so ends the story
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