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AI Tilly Norwood, Female Friendships & Marriage Chemistry · Two Personal with Joy Taylor

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  Speaker 1: I think it's very important to recognize who these people
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  Speaker 1: are and recognize early. I am a confrontational person. She
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  Speaker 1: couldn't have guessed that. Hey, guys, welcome to you Personal.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Joy Taylor. Thanks so much for joining us. Make
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  Speaker 1: Personal show a lot happening around the world. Hayley, what
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  Speaker 1: are we talking about today?
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  Speaker 2: The first thing I want to get into is the
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  Speaker 2: New York Times article about the AI actress Tillie Norwood.
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  Speaker 2: The New York Times did a very extensive interview with her,
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  Speaker 2: which that in itself has created a ton of backlash.
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  Speaker 2: Eight thousand word profile this week on her. She was
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  Speaker 2: created by a retired actress, and they're now comparing her
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  Speaker 2: to actresses like Scarlett Johansson, so they treated her like
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  Speaker 2: a real celebrity. The internet has inspiraling as someone who
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  Speaker 2: works in media. Does AI make you nervous or make
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  Speaker 2: you feel threatened?
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  Speaker 1: No, My job is safe and I have no concerns
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  Speaker 1: whatsoever about being replaced with AI. Now, there are some
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  Speaker 1: jobs that can be replaced with AI. They're mostly not
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  Speaker 1: creative jobs. They're mostly what would be considered entry level jobs.
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  Speaker 1: Organizational type jobs, which isn't nothing like those.
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  Speaker 3: Are careers for people. Those are paying jobs for human beings.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't say that in a dismissal, but in
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  Speaker 1: the context of the creative space, AI does not scare me.
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  Speaker 1: I have been on panels talking about AI all over
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  Speaker 1: the country, all over the world. I have had endless
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  Speaker 1: conversations about AI and what it means for the media business,
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  Speaker 1: what it means for the entertainment business, what it means
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  Speaker 1: for the for Hollywood, Like there's a great deep fee
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  Speaker 1: of AI and on the macro scale with a lot
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  Speaker 1: of things, and replacing jobs in businesses leaning into AI
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  Speaker 1: for everything, and the possibility of AI just taking over.
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  Speaker 3: I do understand the general.
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  Speaker 1: Concern, but those are two different conversations to me when
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  Speaker 1: it comes to so let's start with the big thing.
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  Speaker 3: Is AI gonna take over the world?
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  Speaker 1: Possibly it might, I don't know. But what I do
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  Speaker 1: know is we can live off twigs and berries.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to do that.
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  Speaker 1: No one wants to do that less than me. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I have said time and time again. If the apocalypse happens,
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  Speaker 1: don't look for me. I am not fighting other humans
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  Speaker 1: for sustainability for resources. I saw how people acted during COVID.
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  Speaker 1: I want no parts of it. I will be on
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  Speaker 1: the other side. Okay, I am not surviving. I have
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  Speaker 1: no interest in surviving the apocalypse zero. However, human beings
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  Speaker 1: have existed without technology in the past. The world will
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  Speaker 1: go on. Will it be hideous, will it be hard, yes?
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  Speaker 1: Will we be angry?
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  Speaker 3: Yes? By we I mean you, because I'm not going
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  Speaker 3: through it.
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  Speaker 1: But the world is not going to cease existing because
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  Speaker 1: of AI unless they just like take over and set
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  Speaker 1: off all the nukes, in which case I guess, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we are all fucked as far as media goes and entertainment,
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  Speaker 1: And in this particular situation, the New York Times article
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  Speaker 1: where she's interviewing this AI software who's like getting snippy
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  Speaker 1: with her and all.
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  Speaker 3: That, like, yeah, there's not ANI program that's as good
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  Speaker 3: as me at what I do.
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  Speaker 1: There's just not There's not an ability for AI to
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  Speaker 1: be that creative. They have to pull from human experience,
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  Speaker 1: which makes the human experience more valuable than whatever the
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  Speaker 1: AI is producing.
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  Speaker 3: And furthermore, we don't like it. I'm not watching an
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  Speaker 3: AI show. I'm not doing it, especially the kids.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to watch an AI sports debate show.
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  Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck about what these robots are
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  Speaker 1: talking about. To the robot community, I love you, okay,
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  Speaker 1: please treat me with respect when you take over.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm just not watching that. I'm not watching an
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  Speaker 3: AI movie. It's Scarlett Johansson. It's usually replacing Scarlet Johansson.
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  Speaker 3: Give be me fucking for.
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  Speaker 1: Real, Like it's it's a little bit of an overreaction.
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  Speaker 1: I get it, it's scary jobs, you know. I just
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  Speaker 1: can't get on board with the panic, not when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to the media and creativity. And to Hayley's point,
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  Speaker 1: kids fucking hate AI. They feel that it's not real.
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  Speaker 1: They feel the soullessness. They can tell it's not for them.
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  Speaker 1: They're pushing back on over technology, They're pushing back on
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  Speaker 1: over consumption.
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  Speaker 3: It's not going to take over the world.
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  Speaker 1: So I was on a panel at south By Southwest
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  Speaker 1: and Naja Bell and White was talking about the metaverse.
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  Speaker 1: We were talking about AI, and she brought up the metaverse.
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  Speaker 1: Remember when the metaverse was like the thing and everyone
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  Speaker 1: was freaking ou about the metaverse. We all have to
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  Speaker 1: buy real estate in the metaverse, Like, is there ever
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  Speaker 1: going to be art again or is it all going
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  Speaker 1: to be stored in the metaverse. If you bring up
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  Speaker 1: metaverse today, do people think that you're insane? Yes, because
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  Speaker 1: nobody's talking about the metaverse again. I don't think that
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  Speaker 1: AI is going to get that irrelevant. But it's very
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  Speaker 1: difficult to monetize. It is not accepted in the creative spaces,
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  Speaker 1: it's not enjoyed in the creative spaces. So I'm just
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  Speaker 1: not entirely I'm just not panicking about it. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: and I and like I said, I have no plans
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  Speaker 1: on surviving the apocalypse. So this is this is a
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  Speaker 1: problem for people who are like into that survival shit.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not doing it. Couldn't be less interested. Bunker the fuck?
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  Speaker 4: Why should not bunker? Why do I want to live
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  Speaker 4: in a bunker? I don't want to live in a bunker. Look, man,
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  Speaker 4: it's time, like you lived your life. If it's bunker time,
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  Speaker 4: like it's it's like it's over.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go down with a fight. I'm not. I'm not.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not doing it. You can use me as zombie bait.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have any interests in living through a zombie
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  Speaker 1: apocalypse or an AI apocalypse or like any kind of
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  Speaker 1: of ellipse, like I'm cool. Actually I will rest in
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  Speaker 1: peace and no, have you seen The Last of Us?
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  Speaker 3: No, it's an amazing show. You haven't seen it?
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  Speaker 1: What it's a great show first of all Pedro Pascal,
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  Speaker 1: So really no, no more pitch needed.
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  Speaker 3: But it is.
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  Speaker 1: It's based off of a video game, and it's a
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  Speaker 1: zombie like like zombie show, post apocalyptic zombie show. But
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  Speaker 1: I'm not super into zombies. But it really is more
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  Speaker 1: about like what life would be like and how humans
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  Speaker 1: would treat each other if there was a zombie apocalypse.
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  Speaker 2: Did you ever see a revolution?
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  Speaker 3: People aren't very good to each other. I watched Revolution
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  Speaker 3: years ago. Did you watch that?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 2: Like when the there's no power, no electricity, it's like
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  Speaker 2: everything goes out.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that sucks. I get pissed on.
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  Speaker 1: My electricity goes out for like twenty five seconds.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, God, damn, I preset the microwave for you.
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  Speaker 3: It's blinking. What else is going on?
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  Speaker 2: So writer chicque Owazier published a piece called The Real
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  Speaker 2: Thing that Breaks Female Friendships. Her story that she wrote
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  Speaker 2: has been going around, and she says, the thing that
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  Speaker 2: breaks female friendships is in betrayal, but dishonesty in the
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  Speaker 2: quiet kind that I'm fine when you're not, the smiling
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  Speaker 2: in the moments doing later. She says that if we
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  Speaker 2: had more conversations that were steeped in honesty, we would
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  Speaker 2: be able to save a lot more of our friendships.
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  Speaker 2: So I want to see if you agree, and if
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  Speaker 2: you've ever been doing the quiet honesty dishonesty in friendships
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  Speaker 2: or like letting something slide too far gone to fix
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  Speaker 2: it as it ever happened to you, what is your
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  Speaker 2: experience with it?
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  Speaker 3: Oh? For sure.
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  Speaker 1: I mean listening to her talk about this was harrowing
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  Speaker 1: because I can think of the women who gave me
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  Speaker 1: signs that they were really haters in my life, and
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  Speaker 1: I chose to ignore it because of past experiences that
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  Speaker 1: were positive, or you know, trying to make excuses for
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  Speaker 1: maybe they are going through something, or you know, different
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  Speaker 1: different ways to rationalize their behavior. And it's so dangerous
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  Speaker 1: because those people are your ops. They're really parasites living
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  Speaker 1: in your world and feasting on you their energy, vampires
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  Speaker 1: or just like real life vampires, like really actually trying
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  Speaker 1: to steal your soul. And when talking about friendships, it's
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  Speaker 1: very scary because women friendships are vital to the survival
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  Speaker 1: as a woman in this world. You have to have strong, trusting,
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  Speaker 1: safe women friendships. Like I just don't understand how people
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  Speaker 1: move around, especially in high intensity or high pressure spaces,
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  Speaker 1: without that kind of a system around them, just a foundation,
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  Speaker 1: So it can be very difficult to break up with
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  Speaker 1: a friend. Friendship breakups to me are far more damaging
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  Speaker 1: and lasts longer, and the grief is longer than romantic
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  Speaker 1: relationships because the trusts that you establish, the things that
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  Speaker 1: you share, the spaces that you're in, the vulnerability can be.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to see.
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  Speaker 1: It can be deeper than a romantic relationships, but it's
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  Speaker 1: completely different. And generally there's a bit of resentment that
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  Speaker 1: grows within romantic relationships before the end, which doesn't really
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  Speaker 1: necessarily happen in friendships.
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  Speaker 3: So I think it's I think it's very.
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  Speaker 1: Important to recognize who these people are and recognize early.
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  Speaker 3: I am a confrontational person.
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  Speaker 1: You couldn't have guessed that, and I enjoy confrontation because
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  Speaker 1: people misconstruc through words a lot.
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  Speaker 3: They put extra.
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  Speaker 1: Mayonnaise on words. Sometimes confrontation does not necessarily mean argument.
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  Speaker 1: Confrontation does not necessarily mean trouble or negativity or yelling
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  Speaker 1: or cursing.
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  Speaker 3: Confrontation is just that, like, we have to have a.
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  Speaker 1: Conversation, and I'm going to confront you with this conversation. Now,
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  Speaker 1: it may lead to those other things, but the idea
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  Speaker 1: of confrontation in its you know, base existence should not
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  Speaker 1: necessarily mean something negative, especially if there's things that have
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  Speaker 1: to be said. And a lot of times non confrontational
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  Speaker 1: people get viewed as you know, safer or more peaceful
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  Speaker 1: or more loving, and the reality is they're carrying a
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  Speaker 1: much higher burden of not dealing with the things that
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  Speaker 1: need to be confronted in their life and in their
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  Speaker 1: relationships because they avoid confrontation, sometimes at all costs, and
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  Speaker 1: usually it's at the cost of themselves. So when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to friendships, maybe to a fault, I am confrontational.
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  Speaker 1: Really a lot of things. I'm very confrontational. It's not
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  Speaker 1: just friendships, but in this space we'll talk about friendships.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's important to point out when people are
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  Speaker 1: acting a certain way, their reaction to how you pointed out,
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  Speaker 1: Like if somebody is being negative and you point out, like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you've been really negative lately?
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  Speaker 3: Is there a reason for that?
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  Speaker 1: And they kind of bark back at you or throw
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  Speaker 1: it back on you, like, that's probably not a person
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  Speaker 1: that should remain in your life. You may find that
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  Speaker 1: that confrontation leads to sorry, girl, like I'm dealing with
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  Speaker 1: this thing with my family and I just don't know
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  Speaker 1: where to put all of it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry that it's coming out on you.
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  Speaker 1: I just I didn't know how to talk about it,
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  Speaker 1: how to bring it up, Like the confrontation can give
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  Speaker 1: you the answer that you're searching for, rather than wandering
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  Speaker 1: around the earth wondering if you did something wrong or
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  Speaker 1: if something's changing with them, or you being suspicious of them.
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  Speaker 3: So where I would say that.
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  Speaker 1: She's absolutely right is that you know, being honest or
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  Speaker 1: confrontational in this way can save relationships or it can
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  Speaker 1: give just simply give you the answer of what this
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  Speaker 1: person is to you. Is this person just a you know,
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  Speaker 1: vampire like sucking the life off of you. Is this
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  Speaker 1: person going through something that they just don't know how
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  Speaker 1: to talk to you about.
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  Speaker 3: You'll get your answer by being confrontational.
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  Speaker 1: What you won't get by avoiding the confrontation is not
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  Speaker 1: only your answer, but you also might find yourself in
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  Speaker 1: a way worse situation. It's just avoidance and I'm not
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  Speaker 1: perfect about it by any means of course, And I
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  Speaker 1: don't love awkward conversations.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think most people do.
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  Speaker 1: But I always find that dealing with the situation at
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  Speaker 1: the very least ends the angst earlier than it would
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  Speaker 1: if the outcome is inevitable. So yeah, I mean friendships
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  Speaker 1: deserve the same type of attention that everything else in
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  Speaker 1: our life deserves because friendships are such an important part
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  Speaker 1: of navigating the world.
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  Speaker 2: Agreed, I need my girl release, You do need them.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of relationships, I have a marriage question for you.
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  Speaker 2: There is a story going around on the internet that
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  Speaker 2: is saying chemistry isn't enough for marriage and do not
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  Speaker 2: marry the best sex of your life?
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  Speaker 3: That one through me.
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  Speaker 2: So do you think that you can end up with
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  Speaker 2: your person for the rest of your life and they
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  Speaker 2: may not be the one who gave you the most butterflies?
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  Speaker 3: Well, like, sex.
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  Speaker 1: And butterflies are two different things, I guess, So are
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  Speaker 1: we equating like the best sex like if we're saying like.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, like the best chemistry? Yeah, so love at first
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  Speaker 2: sight the less the excitement all of that.
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  Speaker 1: I think those type of relationships, paired with all of
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  Speaker 1: the other base, foundational grounding things are extremely rare. Now
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  Speaker 1: I will say this, let me sort this out properly.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not giving anyone advice. By the way, gotta do
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  Speaker 1: what the fuck you want. Marry that fabulous dick if
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  Speaker 1: you want to. I suggest that light suggestion that you
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  Speaker 1: also find out if that great sex is also attached
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  Speaker 1: to a great person, and if they have great character,
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  Speaker 1: and if they're a great partner and friend, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: have passion in their career and great goals, all those
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  Speaker 1: things can be won.
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  Speaker 3: They can.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes it's just great sex and great chemistry, and that
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  Speaker 1: is not a marriage. Make marriage is so serious. It
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  Speaker 1: is such a real lifelong commitment where you are saying,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to be with this person through every stage
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  Speaker 1: of their life. That person that you marry at thirty
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  Speaker 1: five is not going to be the same person at
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  Speaker 1: seventy five. They're gonna have gone through quite a bit
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  Speaker 1: few things that are probably going to change how I
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  Speaker 1: look at the world, the things that are important to them,
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  Speaker 1: the things that they want to do with their day.
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  Speaker 1: That's how it goes. Think about who you were when
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  Speaker 1: you were twenty and what you are now. What I
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  Speaker 1: would beat my nineteen year old ass. I was such
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  Speaker 1: a dickhead. There's no way I would be friends with
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  Speaker 1: that bitch. She didn't even know how to dress, make
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  Speaker 1: up a terrible like so many things. The whigs were
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  Speaker 1: not lining up. Okay, there's just a lot going on.
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  Speaker 1: You change. So sex is important, but it's like one
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  Speaker 1: of the important things.
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  Speaker 3: And when it comes to if you're asking me.
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  Speaker 1: Like am I And I hate saying this because it's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: like your husband's not going to be the best sex
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  Speaker 1: of your life.
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  Speaker 3: The best sex of your life changes.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know how many times I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: that was the best sex.
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  Speaker 3: Of my life and then I have the best.
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  Speaker 1: Sex of my life and I'm like, actually that was
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  Speaker 1: so weak, Like you.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't even do the thing.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, Like it's that's also very relative, Like you
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  Speaker 1: can have a very spicy like if you're like, ask me,
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  Speaker 1: like the spiciest sex you've ever had, right, I can
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  Speaker 1: I can point to that particular moment that person is
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  Speaker 1: not my husband, Well, what you do I want someone
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  Speaker 1: that kind of sex with my husband all the time?
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  Speaker 2: What if you if you pick someone and the sex
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  Speaker 2: is terrible.
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  Speaker 3: Why would you marry someone who you have terrible sex.
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  Speaker 2: With everything else is solid.
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  Speaker 3: Then it's not your person.
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  Speaker 2: So is that settling?
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  Speaker 3: What?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 2: Did you settle for all the good stuff? Like and
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  Speaker 2: just oh, I guess I'm gonna just settle for them
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  Speaker 2: even though the sex is bad and we have the
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  Speaker 2: sex is great.
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  Speaker 3: Bad are just bad?
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  Speaker 2: Like what if it's bad? No, No, that's not dicks dickless? Okay,
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  Speaker 2: so the large testicles awful? I can't find have you
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  Speaker 2: ever seen one of those? Actually, it's horrifying story of
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  Speaker 2: somewhat story about one of them. Yeah, well another time it.
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  Speaker 3: Was like it was like a nub. But his balls
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  Speaker 3: were huge. The balls are always huge. Why did they.
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  Speaker 1: Get like stuck in there? I was fascinated by it.
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  Speaker 1: It was not a useful tool.
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  Speaker 3: It just was not. It was not he had a
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  Speaker 3: lot of confidence.
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  Speaker 1: I was just like, wow, like a lot of confidence
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  Speaker 1: for just really I guess it was the balls.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway.
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  Speaker 1: The point is if they're not good in bed, like,
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  Speaker 1: if you don't have a sexual connection, then no, you
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  Speaker 1: have to have a sexual connection. I'm just saying that
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  Speaker 1: your sex is not going to be like ripping your
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  Speaker 1: clothes off up against the wall every single night, and
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  Speaker 1: and what's good to you sexually also changes, like what
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  Speaker 1: I thought I wanted sexually when I was like ten
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  Speaker 1: years ago, I don't want that now. Like you grow,
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  Speaker 1: you get more confident in your body, you try different things,
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  Speaker 1: you like different things, like I don't want to have
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  Speaker 1: sex for forty minutes. What you have got twelve minutes?
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  Speaker 1: Twelve oh one, Get off me. You've had your time,
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  Speaker 1: you had a chance, okay, and you weren't focused.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever you've taken is gonna have to sort out in
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  Speaker 1: the bathroom on zone right.
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  Speaker 3: I'm tired.
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  Speaker 1: There's no fucking ways people talking about thirty forty minutes
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  Speaker 1: get the fuck out of.
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  Speaker 3: Your Absolutely not.
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  Speaker 1: But when I hit fifty, maybe I'll disagree with that, safend,
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  Speaker 1: maybe I'll like that.
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  Speaker 3: But she had no idea what she was talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Might need a honeypeck. You might need a honeypeck.
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  Speaker 3: I don't right now, Okay, I'm I'm doing fine right now.
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  Speaker 1: My point is, I guess I'm rambling a bit, but
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  Speaker 1: I just I think that you do have to have
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  Speaker 1: good sex with the person that you marry.
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  Speaker 3: You have to have a sexual connection. You have to
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  Speaker 3: have an attraction, that is for sure.
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  Speaker 1: But to say that this sex must be the most
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  Speaker 1: earth shattering sex I've ever had in my life, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm willing to disregard everything else about this person because
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  Speaker 1: it's not that. That's kind of silly and it limits
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  Speaker 1: the expectations of what this person can grow into. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I think you get better at sex with the person
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  Speaker 1: as you have more sex with them, especially if you
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  Speaker 1: have an emotional connection. So don't marry the best sex
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  Speaker 1: to Personal show. My boyfriend still talks to X because
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  Speaker 1: they ended on good terms. Is maintaining friendships with xes
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  Speaker 1: mature or a recipe for disaster. I'm gonna speak from
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  Speaker 1: my experience only you do whatever the fuck you want.
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  Speaker 1: I am a thirty nine year old woman. I work
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  Speaker 1: in an industry where I'm dealing with people of the
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  Speaker 1: opposite sex all the time. I have many friends who
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  Speaker 1: are men. I am cool with a lot of my
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  Speaker 1: exes because I do not really have bad relationships with
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  Speaker 1: people unless they've done something.
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  Speaker 3: Terrible to me.
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  Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that I'm constantly in their life, or
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  Speaker 1: that I constantly see them, or that I'm constantly interacting
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  Speaker 1: with them. There are people that I probably would still
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  Speaker 1: be friends with even if I was in a relationship,
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  Speaker 1: and the reason for that is I have no intention
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  Speaker 1: whatsoever of ever being with them again, and they have
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  Speaker 1: no intention of ever.
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  Speaker 3: Being with me. That's my opinion on this. Yes, I
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  Speaker 3: think that.
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  Speaker 1: You should be open with your partner if that's something
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  Speaker 1: that's going on, or you and your partner should understand
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  Speaker 1: what the parameters of your particular relationship and what they
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  Speaker 1: prefer or what they consider respect and disrespect is. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think there's a blanket answer for this, but I
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  Speaker 1: will say I am not someone who hates all of
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  Speaker 1: my exes. I'm not somebody who has bad blood with
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  Speaker 1: anyone just because things didn't work out. And I'm also
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  Speaker 1: not somebody who like is like, oh, they're my ex
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  Speaker 1: so I want them to suffer for the rest of
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  Speaker 1: their life and just miss me forever and always want
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  Speaker 1: me back.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's also very weird.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't think it's a recipe for disaster. I
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  Speaker 1: think it is a case by case basis. If your
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  Speaker 1: partner is somebody who is still in love with their ex,
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  Speaker 1: it's probably not a good idea that they sell we
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  Speaker 1: friends with them, or they don't know how to control
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  Speaker 1: themselves around the opposite sex, it's probably not a good
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  Speaker 1: idea for them to be friends with their ex. But
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that every single situation requires that. And
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  Speaker 1: I know lots of people who are very cool with
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  Speaker 1: their ex who would rather do terrible things than ever
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  Speaker 1: be with them again, And they work perfectly together. They
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  Speaker 1: even co parents together, They're cool with each other's new
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  Speaker 1: partners and all types of things, and never are their
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  Speaker 1: lines crossed. So I think it takes a real level
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  Speaker 1: of maturity, a level of honesty and transparency in your relationship.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't think it's a hard know that if
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  Speaker 1: you're friends with your actual are automatically going to do
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  Speaker 1: something terrible. I don't believe that, and I don't believe
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  Speaker 1: in having bad relationships with people just because things didn't
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  Speaker 1: work out.
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  Speaker 3: That's too personal.
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