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Best of Ian Furness 9/22 · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Now for all things Cougs, here's Ian with the Cougar Legends.
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  Speaker 2: All right, here we go. It is time to talk
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  Speaker 2: Cougs with our two Coug legends, Alex Brinkin and Christo Bruce,
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  Speaker 2: after a win, thankfully, over a really not a great team.
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  Speaker 2: But that's all right. A win's a win. We'll take
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  Speaker 2: that this week. A fun week. Arizona rolls into town.
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  Speaker 2: Noah Fafita, we'll get to that in a second. MK,
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  Speaker 2: Alex are here. How about our guy? How about our guy?
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  Speaker 2: Network TV, USA Network. How did he look?
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  Speaker 3: He looked good to me. You know what, man? QB1,
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  Speaker 3: I'm so proud of you. I was like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: there's some guys, you know, you really love them. You
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  Speaker 3: don't want to give them too much praise, you know. But,
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  Speaker 3: you know, when you're a big quarterback coming out of
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  Speaker 3: the Palouse, you can keep pumping it up a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: You sounded great, bud. I was really proud of you.
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  Speaker 4: Well i appreciate you guys i had a lot of
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  Speaker 4: fun my guy guy haberman good man kate harrison on
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  Speaker 4: the sideline we had we had fun it was a good.
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  Speaker 2: Crew that was uh yeah for those that missed alex
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  Speaker 2: did the tv for the duquesne wazoo game he was
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  Speaker 2: in the booth uh grady emerson filled in on the
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  Speaker 2: radio side but he did the tv i thought all
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  Speaker 2: joking aside like i we texted you the other day
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  Speaker 2: i thought you do i thought you're fantastic and it's
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  Speaker 2: a different beast i don't think people understand the difference
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  Speaker 2: between radio and tv in terms of a a sports
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  Speaker 2: broadcast did you fit in flawlessly i I'll tell you
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  Speaker 2: right now, Wazoo better be ready. They're going to lose you, man.
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  Speaker 2: They are going to lose you on those Cougar broadcasts.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I'll be back next week, so don't worry.
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  Speaker 2: We got that.
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  Speaker 4: So I'll be back in the booth with Chris and Jess.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Next thing you know, they're going to put MK on TV. Oh, man.
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  Speaker 2: Can you imagine that?
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  Speaker 4: They should definitely do that.
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  Speaker 2: MK, I'll start with you. It doesn't matter who you're playing.
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  Speaker 2: Just get in a win. How big was that?
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  Speaker 3: A win is an understatement. I mean, Washington State needed
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  Speaker 3: that like you wouldn't believe. And it's funny, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you deal with adversity, but this is a team that
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  Speaker 3: you're supposed to blow out. And my phone was blowing up.
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  Speaker 3: I had about 52 chats going, what is going on
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  Speaker 3: with our team right now? It was, you know, it's
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  Speaker 3: hard to watch. And I'm not going to say that
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  Speaker 3: I was one of those guys too, Ian. It wasn't
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  Speaker 3: me in the first quarter. But, you know, we needed
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  Speaker 3: that so bad to springboard into this season. And then
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  Speaker 3: Kirby getting his first win was pretty cool with the team.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Alex, it doesn't matter who you're playing. Just getting
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  Speaker 2: the win. A win's a win sometimes. How big was that?
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  Speaker 2: Just to get off the schnoz. Kirby get the number one,
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  Speaker 2: get the first one. Pinnick and the offense got going
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  Speaker 2: as the game went on. Just some thoughts on Saturday.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's hard to win, right, at any level
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  Speaker 4: with anything. You know, we've been on the other side
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  Speaker 4: of it, right, where an FCS school has come and,
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  Speaker 4: you know, beat the Cougs, and it happens every year. So,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I think it was a good– I thought
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  Speaker 4: it was impressive the way they responded to some early
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  Speaker 4: adversity because things, you know, didn't go great to start.
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  Speaker 4: I think Duquesne's a really proud football program. They have
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  Speaker 4: a really cool history, great head coach. Like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: they weren't going to back down from anybody. But I
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  Speaker 4: think ultimately– You know, some changes for Washington State on
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  Speaker 4: the offensive line. And with the scheme really paid off,
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  Speaker 4: the defense getting a couple guys back looked healthy and
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  Speaker 4: certainly eventually wore the Dukes down. So all in all,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, good win. What you wanted looked like you
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  Speaker 4: relatively stayed healthy. And you mentioned kind of getting ready
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  Speaker 4: for a big week here coming up.
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  Speaker 2: Alex, let me stay with you. We were kind of
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  Speaker 2: talking in our group chat the first couple weeks, and
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  Speaker 2: I think we finally saw it. Let's get some more
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  Speaker 2: Maxwell Woods out there. Number three is a playmaker. You
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  Speaker 2: retained him. Again, it goes without saying that Kirby and
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  Speaker 2: his staff, there's a lot of love being tossed around
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  Speaker 2: Oregon State's way right now and Jamarcus Shepard and how
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  Speaker 2: they've looked, not so much the results, but how they've looked.
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  Speaker 2: It was kind of the other way around going into
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  Speaker 2: the season. People were loving Kirby and everything. One of
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  Speaker 2: the things they liked about Kirby was his staff, he
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  Speaker 2: retained guys. And Wiz was one of those guys he retained,
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  Speaker 2: along with Voorhees, right, and, you know, that running back
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  Speaker 2: room for the most part. But, Alex, I love seeing
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  Speaker 2: a playmaker get the ball in his hands a lot,
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  Speaker 2: and they found different ways to do it.
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  Speaker 4: A bunch of different ways. I think just generally, schematically,
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  Speaker 4: Matt Miller came into the week and was like, you
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  Speaker 4: know what, we're going to spread it out a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: We're going to use the athletes. We're going to stretch
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  Speaker 4: the field sideline to sideline, which then allows, you know,
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  Speaker 4: those playmakers to hit it up inside, you know, as
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  Speaker 4: you mix it up. And so you definitely saw– You know,
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  Speaker 4: there was a sequence, right, where Maxwell Woods really got going,
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  Speaker 4: where it was like, throw it to him out of
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  Speaker 4: the backfield, then hand it off to him in the backfield,
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  Speaker 4: and then put him out in the slot and throw
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  Speaker 4: a screen to him. There's like three plays in a row,
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  Speaker 4: and I think they could have gone a fourth. He
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  Speaker 4: was so gassed, though, that he had to come off
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  Speaker 4: the field, right, and Kirby Voorhees ended up finishing it
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  Speaker 4: off for the touchdown. So, you know, again, he can
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  Speaker 4: do a lot of different things. He's got great speed,
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  Speaker 4: good lateral quickness. I think he can be a receiver.
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  Speaker 4: So generally, I love they were throwing the ball in
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  Speaker 4: first down, a bunch of quick throws on first down
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  Speaker 4: to get Pinnock in a rhythm. I believe, especially even
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  Speaker 4: at Kansas State, Caden Pinnock can really throw the football.
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  Speaker 4: They need to lean into that, and they need to
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  Speaker 4: throw to win.
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  Speaker 3: But another great thing, too, is he can also run.
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  Speaker 3: The thing that I'm worried about is his longevity throughout
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  Speaker 3: the season. Ian, you saw that hit he took on
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  Speaker 3: the sideline. I think he was knocked out for a second, honestly.
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  Speaker 3: And this is probably two, three weeks in a row
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  Speaker 3: he's taken a hell of a shot, and it's like,
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  Speaker 3: how many of those shots can you take? And then
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  Speaker 3: after him, does the talent drop off, drop extremely to
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  Speaker 3: the other side, right, that we don't have a chance offensively?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that hit he took, I thought the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, man, we're going to see either Duggar
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  Speaker 2: or Eshelman here, and I think he's lucky in the NFL,
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  Speaker 2: even if he didn't have a concussion, the NFL, they
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  Speaker 2: would have taken him out right away. That would have
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  Speaker 2: come down from above. Yeah, he would have been out
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  Speaker 2: of the game, but Alex, go back to you for
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  Speaker 2: a second, the throwing of the football for Pinnock, because
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  Speaker 2: there's been a lot of talk about him. Obviously, the quarterback, shockingly,
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  Speaker 2: the quarterback gets a lot of attention. That's how it is. Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: And a lot of a lot of attention paid to him.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I thought it was interesting. I think Guy Haberman,
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  Speaker 2: you're saying in the broadcast, talked a lot about how
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  Speaker 2: and I think you did, Alex, too. Like, hey, this
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  Speaker 2: is a guy that wasn't a running quarterback in high school.
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  Speaker 2: And even last year at UC Davis, he was he
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  Speaker 2: had 400 yards. You take the yards away. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he could run a little bit. Is he just learning
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  Speaker 2: what he's able to do, or is he one of
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  Speaker 2: those guys that's going to be reluctant? Because it feels
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  Speaker 2: like he's more willing to run than throw, and there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of other guys that are athletic that want
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  Speaker 2: to sit back there and throw and not run. How
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  Speaker 2: would you talk about the balance for Pinnick?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think he wants to be a passer.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he's skilled enough to be a passer, you know? And, again, like,
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  Speaker 4: he has the athletic ability, but you can even see
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  Speaker 4: when he runs, like, you know, he's not Avery Johnson,
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  Speaker 4: and he's not, you know, like, he's not doing it
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  Speaker 4: like it's second nature to him. And I think some
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  Speaker 4: of that has to do with his, you know, general, like,
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  Speaker 4: You know, again, he's a three-sport athlete growing up. He
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  Speaker 4: didn't get as many snaps playing football, you know, as
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  Speaker 4: some guys. Like, he's only a sophomore, you know, if
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  Speaker 4: I'm using Avery Johnson as an example. You know, Avery
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  Speaker 4: Johnson's a senior. So, you know, I think he's kind
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  Speaker 4: of learning what that part of the game is for him.
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  Speaker 4: But you can kind of see, like, when he gets
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  Speaker 4: in a rhythm throwing, he really starts to heat up, right? But,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the stat that shocked me that I, you know,
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  Speaker 4: it was awesome to do the deep dive this week was,
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  Speaker 4: you know, there was a lot made of, you know,
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  Speaker 4: Cougs were 2-21 on third down, right, going into the game.
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  Speaker 4: 11 of those third down attempts were over eight yards. Like, so,
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  Speaker 4: you know, in the UW game, you know, the stats
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  Speaker 4: throwing weren't great. Well, you're throwing it on second along
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  Speaker 4: third and long, like those are hard spots to be right.
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  Speaker 4: And so, and at Kansas state, I thought he actually
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  Speaker 4: threw the ball pretty well. And then he had a
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  Speaker 4: nice day yesterday or this weekend. So I, you know, again,
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  Speaker 4: I think he is learning kind of what his game
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  Speaker 4: is and coaches need to do a good job of
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  Speaker 4: keep putting them in good situations.
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  Speaker 3: But like you were saying, though, too, having a check
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  Speaker 3: down guy like Woods coming out of the backfield, that
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  Speaker 3: probably helps a little bit, too. And then setting yourself up.
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  Speaker 3: And this is the biggest thing you talked about last
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  Speaker 3: week was setting yourself up so that that third down
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  Speaker 3: is not a third and third and long, like a
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  Speaker 3: third and eight or third and nine.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Making sure you get those check downs.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt. Have you have you guys ever
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  Speaker 2: seen back to back punt returns for touchdowns?
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  Speaker 3: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: First time I ever did that.
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  Speaker 3: Nor true. One of those guys did.
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  Speaker 4: Not two in a row.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that was crazy.
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  Speaker 6: I was, I was, yeah, I was shocked.
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  Speaker 4: I've never seen that.
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  Speaker 3: Well, especially with special teams has been our Achilles heel.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, special teams has been kicking our butt the
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  Speaker 3: first few weeks.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think what you saw too, is that you've got,
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  Speaker 2: you've got options back there too. And you know, with tank,
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  Speaker 2: especially right. Like there's an option there that, that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we haven't, I kind of felt like this was the
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  Speaker 2: game and you're going to have those games. And this is,
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  Speaker 2: it's unfortunate that your, that your FCS game, Alex came
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  Speaker 2: in week three. Right. As opposed to week one or
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  Speaker 2: week two, where you can really kind of get your
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  Speaker 2: skis underneath you. But now it's good because now you
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  Speaker 2: go into a tough game against Arizona and then conference
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  Speaker 2: play after that. So you kind of get your skis.
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  Speaker 2: What have you learned, Alex, about your about the playmakers
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  Speaker 2: like without Freeman out this year? It feels like there's
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  Speaker 2: a little bit more than we've seen so far, but
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  Speaker 2: they're maybe going to get those guys going. But what
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  Speaker 2: do you think about the true playmakers, especially when we
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  Speaker 2: talk about Woods? We know what Voorhees is about. What
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  Speaker 2: about the guys on the outside?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think, you know, getting guys like Brandon Ganesh
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  Speaker 4: and Worthy more involved is super important. I mean, just
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  Speaker 4: seeing the way he moves after the catch and that
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  Speaker 4: sort of thing. I mean, he's probably got the most pure,
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  Speaker 4: you know, ability to stretch the field, I think, for
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  Speaker 4: that team with size and those sort of things. So
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  Speaker 4: I think I loved getting him involved. Obviously, Tank had,
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  Speaker 4: you know, some really good things. going he's a guy
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  Speaker 4: that they've talked about wanting to get him involved he
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  Speaker 4: just needs more reps and more snaps now he's got
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  Speaker 4: a lot of talent so you know I definitely think
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  Speaker 4: that he's a guy that can can make an impact
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  Speaker 4: and then I think Daniel Blood and Darius Clemens will
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  Speaker 4: be kind of like your steady Eddie guys that like
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  Speaker 4: they're gonna make You know, Caden has like a trust
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  Speaker 4: level with those guys. And they're veterans, right?
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  Speaker 6: They're seniors.
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  Speaker 4: So I think you got that kind of mix in there. But,
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  Speaker 4: you know, you need Ganesh more that you get more touches.
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  Speaker 4: You need Tank Hawkins to get more touches along the
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  Speaker 4: way as well.
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  Speaker 3: If you're a Jersey guy, if you're an equipment guy, like,
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  Speaker 3: how do you set yourself up to put Ganesh and
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  Speaker 3: Worthy on the back of a Jersey? Like, is that
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  Speaker 3: elbow to elbow? Do we abbreviate that?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, gosh, that's hilarious.
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  Speaker 4: Just BG on the back?
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  Speaker 2: Hey, he's a great story, though, man. I mean, the
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  Speaker 2: guy's you know, from Eastside Catholic walked on. And, I mean,
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: you look at long arms, like, catch radius is big,
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  Speaker 2: isn't it? Like, I, yeah, I like, as far as
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  Speaker 2: the first couple weeks, you see the name and you're like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: let's get this cat involved so the announcers have to
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  Speaker 2: say his name a few times. And finally, old guy
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  Speaker 2: and Alex had to do that this past weekend. Alex Brink,
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  Speaker 2: it's M.K., It's our Cougs Talking Cougs. I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: get to a bigger picture topic in a second, but
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  Speaker 2: let me just go to the other side. And just
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  Speaker 2: as it relates to this week, here come the– boy,
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  Speaker 2: I never thought I'd say this. I'm excited for an
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  Speaker 2: Arizona Wildcats game in Martin Stadium. Usually this is like
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  Speaker 2: one of the appetizers for USC or Oregon or somebody
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  Speaker 2: like that. But our old friends from the old conference,
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  Speaker 2: Noah Fafita, seven touchdowns, I think just one interception so far.
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  Speaker 2: He's thrown for 834 yards. He's been there, I believe, Alex,
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  Speaker 2: since it was the Pac-10, not even the Pac-12. He's
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  Speaker 2: been there forever. He poses some problems this week, and
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  Speaker 2: as do the Wildcats. What do you think about that?
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  Speaker 2: The Coug defense against Noah Fafita in that offense.
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  Speaker 4: Definitely a tough matchup. I mean, they gave, you know,
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  Speaker 4: they gave BYU kind of all they could handle and
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  Speaker 4: through three quarters or so a few weeks ago. And
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  Speaker 4: Fafita is a special player. I remember him coming out
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  Speaker 4: of server. I remember it was him and Ted McMillan
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  Speaker 4: were like a package deal and Jetfish got him to
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  Speaker 4: go to Arizona and it was a whole thing. You know,
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  Speaker 4: I thought he was, you know, he's a really great
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  Speaker 4: pure passer. Probably the nice thing, right, compared to Washington
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  Speaker 4: State's first two FBS opponents is he's not really going
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  Speaker 4: to beat you with his legs. Like he is an
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  Speaker 4: athletic player, but he's not DeMond Williams and Avery Johnson.
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  Speaker 4: So I would like to think for Washington State that that,
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  Speaker 4: you know, that should help them defensively be able to
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  Speaker 4: maybe contain a little bit more. But he is a
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  Speaker 4: much better pure thrower than those first guys also.
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  Speaker 3: I think for us defensively, having somebody be able to
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  Speaker 3: sit in that pocket and let us get after them,
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  Speaker 3: I think getting Betty and the rest of the D-line
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  Speaker 3: to actually be able to get to the quarterback, only
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  Speaker 3: having two sacks is a little bit tough, especially against
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  Speaker 3: a team that we know is going to be behind
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  Speaker 3: a little bit and going to be passing the ball.
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  Speaker 3: I think we've got to figure out how to get
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  Speaker 3: to the quarterback. That's going to be the big push
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  Speaker 3: for us this week.
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  Speaker 2: MK, I was just going to ask you that. That's
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  Speaker 2: the one thing I think we can look at so
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  Speaker 2: far is pressure. We've seen it a little bit, but usually–
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  Speaker 2: Help me out here, and Alex, jump in afterwards. MK,
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  Speaker 2: is the pressure coming normally when they're not getting there
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  Speaker 2: when they send three or four? Like, they've got to
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  Speaker 2: send more guys, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and here's the hard thing is I think we're
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  Speaker 3: doing such a great job, second and third level defensively,
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  Speaker 3: better than I've seen in years, honestly. Like, I love
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  Speaker 3: what's going on back there. But for us to be
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  Speaker 3: successful and get that pressure, that one, two, three, we're
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  Speaker 3: talking about the timing, it's just not there yet. And
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  Speaker 3: Keith Brown's doing a great job at linebacker. I love
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  Speaker 3: this guy. I think he's playing with a lot of fire.
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  Speaker 3: I think some of our blitz packages, if we can
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  Speaker 3: pick that up and create some confusion, that's literally what
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  Speaker 3: it's going to take.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't think this is a guy you
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  Speaker 2: want to blitz against. Is it, Alex, an experienced quarterback
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  Speaker 2: like Fafita? Yeah, he'll beat you in that regard.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I will say, you know, for Washington State,
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  Speaker 4: it's like, the sack numbers are down, but again, you
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  Speaker 4: played probably the two best pure athletes at quarterback in,
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  Speaker 4: in the first two weeks of the season. And they
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  Speaker 4: got out of, right. They got, got out of a
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  Speaker 4: couple of things because of that. So I, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I think it's close. Like, I think they have a chance,
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  Speaker 4: but you know, I, you know, the, the defensive ends
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  Speaker 4: and the interior D tackles got to, got to make a,
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  Speaker 4: they got to make an impact somewhere along the line.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead. Go ahead, MK.
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  Speaker 3: I was going to say, the biggest thing, and we'll
• 13:26
  Speaker 3: probably talk about this in a second, but the crowd
• 13:28
  Speaker 3: was down, obviously, right? The attendance was down. For Washington State,
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: playing at home has to be an advantage, especially playing
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: against Arizona. Figuring out a way, Washington State needs to
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: figure out a way to rally the troops and get
• 13:39
  Speaker 3: bodies over there and bring some noise.
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: I would say, and that's what I want to kind
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: of transition to a little bit, a little bigger picture
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: topic here for a second before I let the guys go.
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: Alex Brink, MK Bruce, Crystal Bruce. All right. Yeah, I mean,
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: I thought, honestly, for a game against that opponent, the
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: students actually looked pretty decent. I mean, you're not going
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: to get– it's just– it's hard. Like, you're really– it's
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: an uphill battle right now. Now, that said, you've got Arizona,
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: 430 game Saturday. Weather should be good. There's no reason–
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: and they'll have a bigger crowd. They've already said that.
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: So that's going to be nice. One of the things
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: that's come up is– and this is– I hear this often. And, Alex,
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: I'd love to have your thoughts and then MK jump in.
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: Somebody made a tweet yesterday, and I thought it kind
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: of applied to a lot of– honestly, it applied to
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: probably every school except for four or five across the country.
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: Camario Taylor is the quarterback at Mississippi State. He's having
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: an incredible start to the season.
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: Killing it.
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: And he's just killing it and just doing a great job.
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: And someone said, well, this is all fun and nice,
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: but I can't wait to see where he goes next year.
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: Next year. Right?
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: And that comes into play. That's an SEC school, by
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: the way. Last I checked, Mississippi State. But somebody said that.
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: Nicole Auerbach from NBC, who doesn't like anybody except for
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: the top five schools in the country, says, I can't
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: believe people are just saying this still. It's a thing.
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: And just enjoy the games. And I think I hear
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: from a lot of fans, well, how can I? Like,
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: we've got a DB that has, you know, housed a couple.
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: He's got more touchdowns this year than the running backs do.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: You know? And I'm like, okay, you know, where will
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: he go next? You know, like, where will Maxwell Woods go?
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: I hear that a lot, Alex. And I know that's
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: a frustration for a lot of fans. They want to
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: get behind the team. They want to get fired up.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: They want to go to Martin Stadium. But there's just
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: that black cloud hanging over. And it's not just Wazoo.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: It's across the country. And I just mentioned SEC school. Alex,
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: what do you say to fans that say, hey, man,
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: I'm having a hard time because I want to invest
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: myself in this thing. I want to invest myself. And
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: it's not like Wazoo doesn't have transfers either, guys. Quarterback is,
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: et cetera. But what do you tell fans, Alex?
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: I don't think it's unfair to feel that way. Like,
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: I totally understand it.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: I just think.
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: Like, turnover happens, particularly in college football.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: It's just happening at a way higher clip now.
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: And I think the idea that, you know, these athletes, like,
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: they're not committed to the school or whatever it is.
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: I mean, look, when they're on the field, they're giving
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: it everything they got, right? And we can get behind
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: that and support that. And in the end, what you
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: want for Washington State is for.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: the logo and the brand and the university to continue
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: to like be out front of things. And so I
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: think you can support in the same way. I think
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: you can also support the athletes and say, Hey, like,
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: you know, we appreciate your time with us and we
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: wish you the best moving forward. And we're excited for
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: whoever the next, you know, the next version of that
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: is coming in. Cause there are a lot of, you know,
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: think about the, in this state day and age, you
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: could never get in the past, a Matthias McLean priest
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: river guy that grew up as a coob coming back
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: to Washington state to, to bleed crimson and gray from Idaho.
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: Like I think that, I think those stories are almost
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: cooler than the stories of guys leaving, and we should
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: get behind that.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And even before that, too, it's like someone the
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: other day was like, oh, Washington State, you guys don't
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: have any good players. I was like, what about the
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: number one pick, Cam Ward? It's like a lot of
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: Cougs are still like, you know, he left in a
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: good way. He's like, we couldn't pay him enough. But
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: he still represented Washington State well when he left, right?
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: And then think about any other coach. Any other coach historically,
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: they have a couple good seasons, and they're gone. It's
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: the same thing, right? So as long as they represent
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: it well, I think you still get behind it in
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: regards to the Cougs.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard because, like I just said, if you
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: look at our current roster in Pullman, it's not like
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: it's void of guys that transferred in. We take guys,
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: they take guys, everyone takes guys. It's just I don't
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: know what the solution is. I don't know if it's
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: the Protect College Sports Act or not. I know that
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: John Harlow and Wazoo support it. A lot of people
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: support it, but I don't know if that's it. But
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: I do think, yeah. Try to enjoy it while you can.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Enjoy the players when they're there. Like Alex said, I
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: think that's well said. At the same time, I also
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: understand and fully embrace why people are– every time one
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: of our guys makes a play, I go, well, does
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: he have eligibility left? Oh, my God. You know, like seriously.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: And I'll be honest. Like you two guys would– you
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: guys have both mentioned it. MK, you lead the conference
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: in sacks. You wouldn't have stayed there. You would have
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: got paid, right?
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: I would have stayed there.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: I know you would. I love you. I love you.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: You actually might be the one. You might be the
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: guy that would have stayed. Alex, he might have been.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: He was the king of Pullman, right? He was the
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: prince of Pullman. He wouldn't have left.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: No way.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: No shot.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Let's wrap it up with this. Alex, how big is
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: this game for Wazoo? Against a power four school, before
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: you get to conference, get some momentum, but build off
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: of last week, how would you phrase this game this week?
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: I think they need to put their best foot forward
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: that they've had, you know, in these first four weeks, right?
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Whatever that means. It's just, you know.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: again winning is hard this is a good opponent so
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: you know it's a toss-up as far as how the
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: game goes in my opinion but they need to look
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: cohesive as a unit right like they need to get
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: the kicking game going offense needs to clean up pre-snap
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: penalties and and i think i think defense needs to
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: keep growing uh you know defense needs to keep growing
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: i think if they do that they have a real
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: shot to win but again i think kook fans are
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: looking to see a little bit a la oregon state
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: like Does this.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Team belong in the new Pac-12?
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: Does it belong?
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Because there's a lot.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: Regardless of this week, there's a ton of football left,
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: and you can't let whatever the result is of this
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: week affect the rest of the season.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: Right, wrong, or indifferent, that's the thing. Everybody's always wondering,
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: should Washington State belong? That's always the thought process. The
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: big thing is going to be the takeaways. We cannot
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: turn the ball over special teams. It has to be
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: a point of emphasis, right? And then, you know, just
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: playing smart football with the penalties. The penalties are very
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: surprising how many there were last week.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, there was way, way too many for that. And,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: you know, special teams are interesting because there's different phases
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: of special teams. Punt return, pretty good. Punting, really good.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Place kicker, pretty good.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: You can't leave points out there. That's the frustrating thing.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Kirby addressed it yesterday. He said, oh, well, you'll see
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: what he does this week. But, I mean, i i
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: i'm stunned he hasn't switched and gone to the kickoff
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: guy was angelo is that his name right like i'm
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: which also tells you something too like you know there's
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: probably a reason in that regard but uh you know
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: if we play golf it feels like a golfer that
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: just got the shanks going got the got the got
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: the hiccups going right now so maybe he can figure
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: that out all right mk sell us a mortgage I'm
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: telling you right now.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Guys, listen, if you're looking to buy, refinance, or you
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: want to access some equity in your home, reach out
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: to Team Bruce. We can help you out there. And
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: then if you're looking for a good gym, there's a
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: great gym in Maple Valley, the Buffalo Gym.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Alex, shoes. I know a lot of people out there
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: are shoe people. And, you know, there's options these days.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: What do you got?
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: A lot of options. Check out osaga.com. Fun, family-owned business.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: My brother and I revived from my grandfather in 1970.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: Retro running shoes. Comfortable.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Look good.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: Check out osaga.com.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no need to support Oregon. Go support Alex. Osaga.
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: Let's go.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Let's go. Let's go.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Let's go.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Otherwise, there's that other company. We need to support those guys.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Alex and MK, thanks, boys. We'll talk to you next week.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Go Cougs.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: Thanks, guys.
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: Go Cougs.
• 20:47
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• 21:24
  Speaker 2: I do believe this will be the second-to-last visit this
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: year with Joe Sheehan unless something just crazy happens over
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: the next six days. I tend to think that won't
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: be the case, but we'll never know. You never know.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Hi, Joe.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: How are you?
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: Good, man.
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: Hey, look, I'm always up for coming on whenever. I
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: know that we typically tapped out once the Mariners do,
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: but always happy to come in and talk playoffs, World Series, lockout,
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: whatever the hell we're going to do next year to
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: fill the time.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. If we would have just– finished
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: when the Mariners tapped out, we would have been done
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: in June. So, I mean, we're still going strong. Joe,
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: did you know? I got this. You'll like this. Did
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: you know? There's a lot of misinformation out there. I'm
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: going to paint a picture for you if I can.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: You ready for this? If the Mariners can still get
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: in with the falling, take the Rangers clinching out of
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: it tonight because that actually doesn't actually eliminate the Mariners
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: tonight unless the Mariners lose as well and the Rangers win.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: A three-way tie scenario, if all three, Seattle, Houston, Texas,
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: all finish at 79-83, the M's would win the division
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: because they have the best combined record. How about that?
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: There's still hope, Joe.
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: I thought I was going to hit you with that.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: I had done all the work, and I'm like, oh,
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: I'm going to hit him with a three-way tie scenario,
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: and you beat me to it.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: How about that? We're on the same page. See, we're
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: all positive thinking here, Joe. Of course, the chances of
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: that happening, I think, are less than 1%.
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, losing the tiebreaker to the Rangers really hurts. Basically,
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: they have to run the table. The Rangers have to
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: lose the rest of their games, and the Astros have
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: to do no better than a split this weekend, and
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: they would win it outright, actually. But, yeah, the slightly
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: more likely scenario is the three-way tie. But this all
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: starts with the Mariners winning six in a row. Well,
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: it has to be seven in a row. And I'm
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: going to always think back to the start of this month.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: And looking ahead to the A's and the Angels and
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: the Rockies at infinitum. And I'm still, I was writing
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: up the Padres today. And the Padres just come off
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: a similar stretch. They played the Nationals, Giants, Rockies, and Marlins.
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: And they went 12-1. And writing about the Padres, I
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: just couldn't help but think of the Mariners, who had
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: even an easier schedule laid out for them and couldn't—and,
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: you know, the 73-83 today. I just— it was a squandered
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: opportunity all year long, but it was especially a squandered
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: opportunity in September, when they— there' s just no reason for them
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: not to have gone, you know, 15-2 or whatever and
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: taken this division. probably gets one at 81 and 81.
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: It possibly gets one at 80 and 82. And the
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: Mariners are not going to even be alive, likely going
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: into the last weekend, which is just, I guess, when
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: you talk about teams being disappointing, some of that is
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: on you, right? Because you had expectations. Did they disappoint
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: or were you just wrong about them? I'm comfortable saying
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: that this is a case of a team being disappointed.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Joe, if nothing else, If nothing else, and we still
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: have four left with the Angels, but if nothing else,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: they had 10 games. The first half of the month
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: through September 16th, they had 10 games against the Athletics
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: and the Angels. and they weren't able to take advantage.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: That's not disappointing. That's 100% on you as an organization,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: as a franchise, as a clubhouse, as a manager and
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: as staff. That's on you. 10 of 16 against those
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: two teams? Come on.
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: I go back to that series coming out of Boston.
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: They had that horrible game where we dunked on Dan
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: Wilson in Boston. They won the next two. And they
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: came home, and that's where it was going to start.
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: 17 of the last 22 against the A's, Angels, and Rockies.
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: Four at home against the A's. Four at home against
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: the A's. And they lost, they gave up 20 runs
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: in the first three games to the A's. And, you know,
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: the A's are awful, but remember, this is a team
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: who literally lost its top five hitters. Langoliers have come
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: back in the last week. But you look back at
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: their opening day lineup, and they lost their top five hitters.
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: And you gave up 20 runs to that team in
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: three games in a row. I just, that's where, that
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: to me, you know, they went two and five against
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: the A's in those two series. And that's really where
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: it kind of like deflated, like just took all the
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: air out of the bubble. Like I could have, I
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: would have, I did. I certainly sat here the night
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: we talked about Wilson and said, you know, even as
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: bad as it looks right now, it's all laid out
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: in front of them. And I just never would have
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: figured them to play that badly against these horrible teams
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: in September. And that to me is where I go,
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: They're just not as good as I thought they were.
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: And yeah, we can point to the losing brash and
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: the domino effects in the bullpen. But I want to
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: sit down this winter, and Lord knows I'll have time
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: this winter, it looks like. I really want to sit
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: down and look at Julio Rodriguez this season.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: Because he's been, it's funny because you and I have
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: talked for years about the first half, second half thing.
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: And I'll always tell you, that's noise, that's noise, like
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: home roads, it's all just noise in one season. And
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: sure enough, this year, he had a first half that
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: was actually a little bit better, and he's played like
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: me in the second half. And I was shocked. I
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: was looking at his splits the other day. I was
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: shocked at how bad he's been over the last 30 games.
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: And there's no way to get around the fact that
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: he is a big part of the reason that the
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: Mariners didn't make the run down the stretch that we
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: expected them to. You know, Cal Rowley actually... I just
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: ran some numbers on Blue Sky. If you look at
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: Rowley 23... 24, and then combined 25 and 26, he
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: basically keeps having the same season. But he had 25
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: at his 90% level. Talk about Pocota terms. He was
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: like three standard deviations for what you would have expected.
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: And then this year, he was also three standard deviations
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: for what you would have expected. And if you average
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: those out, it's a fairly typical Cal rally season. But
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: the way in which we had them changes how we
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: think of him but you know sometimes even one season
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: isn't enough to overcome the variance of just being a
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: baseball player i'm rambling a bit but i guess what
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: i want to say is like the mariners are a
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: fascinating off-season topic for me where did it go wrong
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: how did it go wrong and more importantly how do
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: you make sure it doesn't go wrong again because they're
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: going to be the favorites.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Next year yeah they i think one of the things
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: that that has also popped up with us is the
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: starting pitching uh you know in terms of the number
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: of quality starts and a number of what but they
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: got out of their start like yes, you're missing brash.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: You leaned way too heavily on Bazzardo. And I kind
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: of always bristle because Bazzardo takes a lot of grief
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: in this town. Obviously what happened last year, but he's
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: not that guy. And yet he's put in the position
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: of being that guy, right? So that makes it hard
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: for him. But all that said, when you're starting pitching,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: which you've built this franchise around, right? Like you're kind
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: of basing everything on, we've got this great starting staff
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: and And it's not, you know, the Hancock injury doesn't
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: even come into play because they've got depth. They've got
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: six guys, you know, and they bring in a Cade Anderson. So,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: you know, they had six with Castillo. Then they bring
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: in Cade. To me, part of the problem has also
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: been the starting pitching, Joe, hasn't been quite what you
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: would expect it to be.
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: It's been a massive issue, especially in the second half.
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: Logan Gilbert's having basically the second-worst season of his career.
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: George Kirby's having the worst year of his career. Luis
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: Castillo obviously fell apart this year, and they were able
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: to get him off the payroll. And this matters because
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: you've got more pitching on the way. You look at
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: Anderson coming up. You look at Ryan Sloan. And I just.
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: You've got to figure out what went wrong. And this
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: is why I go back to, I would love to
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: see Maniaka stick around. We talked about this a couple
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: of weeks ago. I'm a huge Maniaka fan going back
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: to his days in Cleveland and in DC, but I'm
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: also okay with, you know what, let's just start over.
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: Let's just get an entirely new management team in here
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: to take a fresh look at these players and see
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: if we can't do better. Cause like I say, you
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: look who had a better year this year, you know,
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: Dominic Canzone, Luke really, I think, I think Cole young
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: actually had a really strong season. He's falling apart a
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: little bit down the stretch, but for the most part,
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: you know, it's hard to find the guys who were
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: better this year than they were last year, who were
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: better this year than you would have expected them to
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: be three or four, you know, a couple, a couple
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: of hitters. And that's about it. And you can, that
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: can happen next year. You've got to have, I'm not
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: saying everybody's got to have a peak season last year,
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: but you've got to get them back to where closer,
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: where they were in 24 and 25. And I think
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: it might take new voices to do that. You can't
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: fire the players of the old, saying, so you got
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: to fire the, the, the, the dugout staff. And I'd
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: be okay with cleaning house there and taking your time
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: with doing it. And this is where to some extent,
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: the lockout might help you because there might be less
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: of a rush to put a management team in place
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: for the players. They're not going to be able to
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: contact the players after December 1st anyway. So yeah, Go
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: ahead and take your time and figure out who you
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: want running the pitching staff, running the hitters, managing all
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: those guys. I think it's an opportunity for the Mariners
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: to get the right team in place, not just for 27,
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: but for 27 through 29. See if you can't find
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: your five-year solution in the dugout.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Okay, so let me go back for just a second
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: from what you said, because I was going to ask
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: you this anyway. I want to make sure we're clear,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: because I was going to ask you to kind of,
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: this isn't even crystal ball predicting, just what do you
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: think should happen Because a week from today when we
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: speak again, it'll be two days after the season. And
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: assuming that it's the normal world of pro sports, there
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: will have been some changes. Do you change the front office?
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Jerry DiPoto, Justin Hollander, do you change that after 11 years?
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: I do not. I think that they've earned the opportunity
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: to ensure that the 26th season was a fluke. When
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: I look at the team... I still think this is
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: the same core of talent that I expected to win
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: 93 games last year and this year. I think you've
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: got to give them one more option. Remember, they traded
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: for Donovan, and Donovan just spent the year hurt. Yeah,
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: could they have done more in the bullpen? Yeah, I
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: do think so. But remember, they've also drafted Kate Anderson.
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: They've drafted Ryan Sloan. They built this, not just the staff,
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: but this farm system. We've all been excited about watching
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: Lazaro Montes the last couple weeks. So I think you've
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: got to give them credit for the things they've done well.
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: I would not replace the front office. I would give
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: that front office a chance to pick a new field
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: staff And then if they do that poorly, yeah, after 27,
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: I think you've got to look at a different management team.
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: But I think you'd actually go backwards if you change
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: everybody right now. There's also how much change do you
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: want to make in one offseason when you're not a
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: rebuilding team? If you're 56 and 106, yeah, maybe you
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: just completely clean house, put a new front office in place,
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: put a new dugout staff in place. the Mariners are
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: in the middle of when they should be peaking. And
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: that team was built by the POTO with the flaws
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: it had this year. I'll grant that. And I think
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: you've got to say, Hey, look, we still think this
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: is the guy, but you've got to replace the dugout staff.
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: I would give the POTO one more year.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I tend to agree with you. I tend to
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: side with you in that regard. I think, you know,
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: just all the guys you just talked about and then
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: the rosters, but let's be honest, it's a disappointing season. And,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: you know, I think it's one thing if it's like
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: you said, if it's a 56, 116 win team or
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: whatever the numbers would be, that's one thing. that to
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: me is more of an indictment on the front office
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: than whatever's in the dugout because you can only do
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: so much with the talent. This is the opposite. This
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: is a team that underachieved at 73 and 83. They're
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: going to have a losing record, whatever that ends up being.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: And part of it is, everyone in town, all the
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: media guys, we all like Perry Hill. He actually refuses
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: to come on our station now because we're critical, but Um,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: you know, whether it be Perry Hill or the rest, yeah,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: rest of the stuff, you know, all these guys and,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: you know, Manny, I love Manny act a great dude.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: We've had him on a number of times. Uh, you know, they,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: that's where it starts to me. I think you have
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: to completely purge everything in that dugout, everything on that
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: staff all the way through fresh faces. That's kind of
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: where I'm feeling right now. I just, I just don't
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: think you bring anybody back at all from that, from
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: that coaching staff.
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: Joe, especially since you look at it's a roster. It's
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: a failure of the entire roster. It's not a situation
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: where the pitchers were great.
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: The hitters were terrible, right?
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: Or the defense was great. Every aspect of this team disappointed,
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: especially the defense. There was a number going out there
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: that the Mariners are going to be the worst team
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: defensive team by stat cast in the 11 years we've
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: had stat cast they're going to be one of the
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: bottom five teams in runs of runs below average based
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: on like a 20-year framework of of a different number
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: um and i think you got to start there i
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: want to know and i talked about julio earlier i
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: want to know why he went from being an above
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: average defender to a below average one like i can't
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: do anything about luke railey or josh nailer or dominic
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: canzone but i want to know what happened elsewhere and
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: if it's just Can we do it by fixing the personnel?
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: You and I, as far back as May, were talking
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: about Crawford and wanting Colt Emerson to get the job.
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: And Emerson was playing shortstop for a while, and then
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: he got hurt. I got to go into next year,
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: upgrade the defense, because some of the problems with the
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: pitching this year was unquestionably actually the defense. I look
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: at these inflated ERAs, and I also look at the
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: defense of them. It's not all on Gilbert and Wu
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: and Kirby and Miller, even Castillo and Hancock. It's when
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: they put balls in play off them. guys behind them
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: weren't making plays. And that redounds to the pitcher's ERA,
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: but we can look at deeper numbers and say, hey, look,
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: this is pitching and defense. So you've got to really
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: look at every, all three phases of the game and
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: all four. I split things up into offense, defense, bullpen,
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: and rotation. And I think all four of them, you've
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: got to start with new management of. So that's hard.
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: I'm not, that is a really hard thing to do
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: to replace your entire on-field staff. But, you know, if
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: you've ever seen Mad Men, I say this all the time,
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: that's what the money is for.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Well, 100% Joe Sheehan joining us, Joe Sheehan Newsletter. Joe,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: I want you to emphasize again the defense because, you know,
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: we do live in an era now where we have
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: a lot more information numbers next to us. You know,
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: there's some that'll scream and I'll put the iPads down
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: and all that. But I like because fielding percentage, that's
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: almost to me feels like almost batting average. It's like
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: we don't need that number. There's better ways to look
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: at it. You just said something I think I want
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: you to reiterate again and emphasize. This is one of
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: the worst defensive teams in a while in baseball?
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you go back to, like I said, we only
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: had the really advanced numbers for about 10 years for
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: the one set and 20 years for another. And like
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: I said, this is one of the worst defensive teams
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: in that range. I'm just kind of taking a quick
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: look here. And I missed on them badly. I'm looking
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: back at my preseason numbers. I had them as the
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: seventh best defense in baseball. And that was obviously wrong.
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: And we knew they were taking some chances at the
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: start of the year. Like Brendan Donovan, like bringing him
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: in to play third base, he barely had played third
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: base in like a three-year period. And when he was there,
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: he was bad at it. So that was already a risk.
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: You know, Josh Naylor, not a good first baseman. We
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: expected them to be good at second. We expected them
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: to be good in center. On the quarters, you know,
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: Randy Rosarino is one of this kind of this weird
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: mix of like really good skills, but not a particularly
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: good defender. The numbers have bounced around. So there was
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: some risk with the defense and everything went wrong. I mean,
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: that's going to happen. But when you don't, just don't
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: use fielding percentage. I think that's like batting average actually
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: still tells you a certain amount about skill sets.
• 36:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: But, you know, watch any game and you basically have
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: to die on the field to get called for an
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: error now. No autopsy, no error. And it makes fielding–
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: not that fielding percentage was ever a great number, but
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: the effect of official scoring on this is just– it
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: makes fielding percentage– I'd rather know a fielder's shoe size
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: than know his actual fielding percentage. Look at defensive run saves,
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: which is put out by Sports Information Solutions and is now–
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: and it's published at Baseball Reference. Use the StatCast data.
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: Use baseball perspectives as defensive numbers. Honestly, I use all
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: of them. I try to anyway. Sometimes it's just whatever.
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: If I'm in fan graphs or I'm in– and that's
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: baseball savant or baseball reference, I'll use the number that's
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: in front of me, which is where I tend to
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: make my mistakes. But you want to get as much
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: information as possible. And frankly, don't be afraid to use
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: the eye test. I'm not voting in the fielding Bible
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: Awards this year. I usually do, though. I'm not doing
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: it this year for scheduling reasons. But I do take
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: the eye test into account. It doesn't outweigh everything. But
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: say for the sake of argument, I've got three numbers
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: that are telling you slightly different things. I trust my– say, hey, look,
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: what do I see with this player? Now, I watch
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: a lot of baseball, but here's the thing. The numbers
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: watch all the baseball. I might see, just to pick
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: a name, Cole Young make 75 plays over the course
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: of a season.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: The– the numbers are going to see not just the
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: plays he's made, but the plays he could have made
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: or the plays that he really had no chance to
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: make because the ball was hit at 108 miles an hour.
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: So I think that's where the numbers, the numbers see everything.
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: And I know it's hard for two reasons. One, the
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: defensive statistics that we have got, it's 440, I'm so sorry.
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: The defensive stats we have are not perfect, which is
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: why you want to use as many of them as possible.
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: And that's where it gets to, well, this number tells
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: me one thing and this number tells me the other,
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: so why should I believe any of the numbers? Well, no,
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: there's truth in both of them. And you've got to
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: figure it, you know, you've got to kind of balance
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: them out. So, you know, sometimes it's a peak for
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: Armstrong where the numbers in the eye test tell you
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: he's great. And you just, that's, that's the easy part,
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: but most players are not that easy. So I also
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: prefer just to make this last point. I like using
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: collective defensive numbers. Because there is interplay between fielders, and
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: this is something that SIS measures. The effects of positioning
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: are incredibly important now, data-driven positioning. Even though you can't
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: fully shift, teams are using the data based on where
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: the batters are supposed to hit the ball to position
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: their fielders. And there are differences in the skills of
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: the teams at doing that. So we're not just measuring
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: individuals anymore. We're measuring individuals and how the team positions.
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  Speaker 6: heard gin tequila. Like I I'll do a, you know,
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: I'll do that. I'm like, I heard all of them.
• 41:59
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• 42:02
  Speaker 6: and you said, Hey, do you, we're going to get
• 42:03
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• 42:05
  Speaker 6: that's perfect. And then second of all, you said, what's
• 42:07
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• 42:10
  Speaker 6: let's go man. Long Island, nice tea. They just put
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: everything in it.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: They throw it all in it. Are you, now you,
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: are you a bourbon guy? You're a bourbon guy, right?
• 42:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I love bourbon.
• 42:19
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• 42:20
  Speaker 6: Big whiskey bourbon, yep.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Their bourbons are absolutely, absolutely sensational. I'll just tell you that.
• 42:26
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• 42:32
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• 42:35
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• 42:39
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• 42:41
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• 42:43
  Speaker 2: out and they bring the little whiskey wagon. They serve complimentary–
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: they serve charity cocktails. These guys are phenomenal. But the
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Captain's Reserve bourbon, I've just got like a little bit
• 42:54
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• 42:57
  Speaker 2: for a special time at some point. But, yeah, man,
• 42:59
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• 43:02
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• 43:04
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• 43:10
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• 43:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's appropriate. Very appropriate. And I'll be on my way.
• 43:17
  Speaker 6: I'm going to the airport right now. Let's go.
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: Ready to go.
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: Ready to meet these people. They've got to be the
• 43:22
  Speaker 6: smartest people alive.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: They are. Alan and Jeff, even though they're Huskies, we
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: love them anyway. Very smart dogs. Very smart dogs. Ashley,
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: John did some homework for us. He sent me some
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: pictures from the game on Sunday. Since it's radio, they
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: can't see the pictures, but do you want to go
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: ahead and explain the three pictures or the two pictures
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: in the video you sent you, dipstick?
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: I was going to do this whole big thing on
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: all these dumb Seahawks fans, but then I started drinking
• 43:53
  Speaker 6: and I forgot. I was like, eh, I'm not going
• 43:56
  Speaker 6: to do that. But I did, I will say this.
• 43:59
  Speaker 6: So the, the girl that was sitting in front of
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: us had a Gino Smith Jersey and I kept giving
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: her grief the whole time. I'm like, Oh my God,
• 44:05
  Speaker 6: what are you? And then a guy next about a
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: section over had a Rick Meyer on and I did
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: have enough beverages to go update your Jersey, Rick Meyer.
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: And he kept looking back like, dude, he was picked
• 44:17
  Speaker 6: number two in 1993. Like, Can somebody get that guy
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: a Seahawks jersey for Christmas or something? Like Rick Meyer, really?
• 44:29
  Speaker 6: My God, I can't even do the math. What's that,
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: 33 years ago?
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: That'd be 33 years. That's 30.
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: What, you couldn't find your Dan McGuire?
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: What's going on with you, dude? If you're going to
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: wear a jersey from the 80s or 90s, it better
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: say Largent. Right?
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Maybe Jim Zorn. Easley, Largent, Craig. Maybe you can get
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: away with.
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: You know what?
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:53
  Speaker 6: I'll give you... I did see a lot. I saw
• 44:56
  Speaker 6: Cortez Kennedy, which was cool. I saw, like you said,
• 45:00
  Speaker 6: lots of Largent. I saw... Yeah, there was a lot
• 45:03
  Speaker 6: of throwbacks, a lot of Kenny Easley. Yeah, there were
• 45:06
  Speaker 6: some people who had some taste in there. The one
• 45:08
  Speaker 6: video that I think was.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: Oh, God.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: I got to show this to Ashley.
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: This is the.
• 45:13
  Speaker 6: This is probably the cardinal sin of all cardinal sins.
• 45:16
  Speaker 6: This dude had a 71, a Walter Jones. And I
• 45:20
  Speaker 6: was like, respect. And then he turned around. He was
• 45:22
  Speaker 6: walking towards me. And I turned around. He had put
• 45:24
  Speaker 6: his own last name on the back of a 71. Like, dude.
• 45:28
  Speaker 6: You're not Walter Jones. And plus he was about five.
• 45:32
  Speaker 6: He was like five, eight, three 40. Like, you know,
• 45:34
  Speaker 6: the weight could have worked on the offensive line. That
• 45:36
  Speaker 6: shouldn't matter. I should, you know what? Scratch that from
• 45:39
  Speaker 6: the record. Personal appearances are not show fodder, but it
• 45:42
  Speaker 6: was like, dude, you're not Walter Jones. Like you, like
• 45:45
  Speaker 6: you just put your name on the back of 71.
• 45:48
  Speaker 6: If I was, if I was bigger, stronger, tougher, and, and,
• 45:51
  Speaker 6: all that kind of stuff, I would have fought him.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: Well, the video you sent me, you were chirping him
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: a little bit. Could he hear you? I could hear
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: you on the video.
• 45:58
  Speaker 6: I would stand right next to him and I'd go,
• 46:02
  Speaker 6: I don't remember what I said. I'd been probably drinking
• 46:04
  Speaker 6: too much. But, like, putting your own name on a 71,
• 46:07
  Speaker 6: that's a good one. His buddy was staring at me,
• 46:10
  Speaker 6: and I was like, I don't care. Whatever.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: The mean streets of Glendale, buddy. You better be careful there.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: The mean streets of Glendale.
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: It's not exactly candlestick there. It's not exactly like if
• 46:21
  Speaker 6: you're a Cardinals fan, you're in the minority. I walked
• 46:23
  Speaker 6: for about three blocks.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: Of my car.
• 46:26
  Speaker 6: I didn't see, this is the wildest thing. I didn't
• 46:28
  Speaker 6: see one Cardinals fan. Everything was Seahawks and everyone was
• 46:32
  Speaker 6: doing that obnoxious Seahawks. It was like, okay, we get it.
• 46:35
  Speaker 6: You're playing the Cardinals. Don't, don't rile yourself up too
• 46:38
  Speaker 6: much for this game. But there I walked three blocks.
• 46:42
  Speaker 6: I did not see one Cardinal Jersey or anything that
• 46:45
  Speaker 6: anyone be a Cardinals fan. And the funniest thing was,
• 46:47
  Speaker 6: You know those tables that they sell the illegal stuff?
• 46:51
  Speaker 6: You would think it would be a Cardinals table. It
• 46:53
  Speaker 6: was a Seahawks. They were like three Seahawks tables. They're
• 46:56
  Speaker 6: selling Seahawks stuff right across the street. There was no Cardinals.
• 47:01
  Speaker 6: There was no bootleg Cardinals stuff. It was all bootleg Seahawks.
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: the place was 80% Seahawks fans.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: It was unbelievable.
• 47:08
  Speaker 6: Like the JSN touchdown, the roof came off the place
• 47:11
  Speaker 6: on the JSN touchdown, like second play of the game.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: You could hear the Seahawks chance through the TV on Sunday.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: I just, I just counted it like a quiet home game.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: It did a very cool.
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 47:21
  Speaker 6: That's a great way to put it.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: That's what it is. That's what it is. I think
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: I just counted it up. I went to, I covered,
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: I covered 12 Seahawks Cardinals games in that building ending
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: in 2023. And, And no word of a lie, I
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: don't think it ever was more than 60% Cardinal fans, ever.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: And there were times it was 70-30 Seattle fans. And
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know if the Cardinals go through that with everybody,
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: but it felt very L.A. Chargers-like in that regard. And
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: that was, you know, before the L.A. Chargers moved to L.A.,
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: it felt like that. It was always a Seahawks home game,
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: and they have dominated for the most part that team.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: So that's not a surprise. What did you think of
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: the game itself?
• 48:04
  Speaker 6: Well, you know, I was a little bit surprised in
• 48:06
  Speaker 6: the first half that, you know, it's 7-7. The Cardinals
• 48:11
  Speaker 6: have no offense whatsoever. It dissipated really quickly because the
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: only reason there weren't even any Cardinals fans was because
• 48:19
  Speaker 6: they had a decent game against the Cardinals. And so
• 48:22
  Speaker 6: most of those people who would sell those tickets went, ah,
• 48:24
  Speaker 6: maybe we're something. They were terrible. Now, having said that,
• 48:27
  Speaker 6: Seattle's defense.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: They.
• 48:29
  Speaker 6: Don't need a designated pass rusher or anything like they
• 48:31
  Speaker 6: get so much push from the middle. And I was
• 48:33
  Speaker 6: watching just the lines. It's, you know, they get so
• 48:36
  Speaker 6: much push from the middle with Murphy and, and Leonard
• 48:39
  Speaker 6: Williams that it's great. But those outside guys get, cause
• 48:42
  Speaker 6: they're singled all the time. And, you know, the Cardinals
• 48:45
  Speaker 6: don't have any offensive line. So, you know, it's just
• 48:47
  Speaker 6: really impressive. They don't miss tackles. They're really aggressive. They're
• 48:51
  Speaker 6: coached so well. And then I'm sure you've talked a
• 48:54
  Speaker 6: ton about it, but I mean, to have drew lock
• 48:56
  Speaker 6: in the first two games, walk in and do that.
• 48:58
  Speaker 6: And I don't care who you're playing, man. It's the
• 48:59
  Speaker 6: NFL to have him be that efficient, especially on a
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: day in which Jackson dart, you were just talking about,
• 49:04
  Speaker 6: it gets knocked out. Jamis Winston is horrible. Like Jamis
• 49:07
  Speaker 6: Winston is, is a great personality at this point. Like
• 49:11
  Speaker 6: go be something, go, go be a personality somewhere. We
• 49:14
  Speaker 6: need that in media. You're not a quarterback anymore. And
• 49:16
  Speaker 6: sometimes what happens is if you got this great job
• 49:19
  Speaker 6: holding the clipboard, then all of a sudden you got
• 49:20
  Speaker 6: to play and he doesn't horrible. So, I mean, for
• 49:23
  Speaker 6: some teams, that's, you know, that's what they've got in
• 49:26
  Speaker 6: New York is going to, I mean, it's just, it's
• 49:27
  Speaker 6: week two. They're going to have to find a quarterback
• 49:29
  Speaker 6: because he can't play. So for Seattle to go in
• 49:31
  Speaker 6: like that and have drew Locke, do what he did
• 49:35
  Speaker 6: i mean that move by jsn was like criminal but
• 49:38
  Speaker 6: you know just to throw the ball the way that
• 49:40
  Speaker 6: he did that that's that's a great luxury to have.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Cardinals by the way did find out again that one
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: just in case they needed to be reminded they're still
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: the cardinals like let's not oh we like week one
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: getting carried away with different things like you're still the
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: cardinals you're not very good the the division is still
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: a three-team division we found that out with seattle getting
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: that win look at our friends the 49ers my god
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: I mean that they that's exactly what good teams do
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: all joking aside that's what good teams do is what
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: they did to Miami right that's exactly what you do
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: you just like let's let's take any doubt out let's
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: just put them away be done with it and and
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: I mean just an absolute ass kicking and uh I
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: I'm just it's these two teams and then oh boy
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: our friends the Rams decided to show up now I
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: don't know how much credit we give the Rams. They
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: look good, and Devontae Adams is great. No Puka Nakua. But, John,
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: that game changed. Like, the Giants couldn't move the football. Like,
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: no Jackson Dart. That was a different football game. And
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: then Neighbors goes out for a while with whatever he
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: had going on. I mean, that's just– I don't know
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: how much stock I put in what I saw last night.
• 50:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I give Stafford credit. I mean, he–
• 50:49
  Speaker 6: you know, after that first game, a lot of people were–
• 50:51
  Speaker 6: you know, he threw a hut for 155 against the 49ers.
• 50:54
  Speaker 6: So a lot of people were giving him grief. He
• 50:56
  Speaker 6: threw for three 27. The only, they didn't have Puka
• 50:58
  Speaker 6: in that game. So they had Devante Adams. And I
• 51:01
  Speaker 6: think what happens sometimes is we all forget how good
• 51:03
  Speaker 6: Devante Adams is a first ballot hall of Famer and
• 51:07
  Speaker 6: touchdown records, all that stuff led the league last year,
• 51:09
  Speaker 6: I think with 13, he's really good. But like you said,
• 51:13
  Speaker 6: the giants, I expected more out of them defensively. They've
• 51:16
  Speaker 6: they've accumulated high draft picks on the defensive side of
• 51:19
  Speaker 6: the ball for a long time. And they just can't play.
• 51:22
  Speaker 6: I mean, Thibodeau, the kid out of Oregon that you
• 51:25
  Speaker 6: all know there, and he looked like a monster as
• 51:27
  Speaker 6: a freshman. He doesn't do anything. Abdul Carter's okay. You know,
• 51:30
  Speaker 6: the Arvel Reese, the kid that got out of Ohio State,
• 51:32
  Speaker 6: like they should be much better than they are defensively.
• 51:36
  Speaker 6: And they're just not, they should have been able to
• 51:37
  Speaker 6: stay in that game a little bit. And after Dart left,
• 51:41
  Speaker 6: you know, they just, they couldn't do it. So you're right.
• 51:43
  Speaker 6: It's the jury's still out on them. You know, Aaron Donald,
• 51:47
  Speaker 6: I will say this about Aaron Donald. He looked quick.
• 51:49
  Speaker 6: He tired fast.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: He's 35. Yeah.
• 51:52
  Speaker 6: But in terms of his quickness off the ball, he
• 51:55
  Speaker 6: looked like he was quick. You know, that that's the
• 51:57
  Speaker 6: one thing, but yeah, I mean, look, you know what
• 51:59
  Speaker 6: I hope because after the game, Sean McVay came out
• 52:04
  Speaker 6: and said, Hey, you know, I screwed, basically I screwed
• 52:07
  Speaker 6: up in that whole thing. And you know, I, I
• 52:09
  Speaker 6: shouldn't have, you know, we shouldn't have gone into Australia
• 52:11
  Speaker 6: like that. But the way I saw that was the
• 52:13
  Speaker 6: way this is how people are interpreting that here is
• 52:16
  Speaker 6: that they're taking credit away from the 49ers. In other words, hey,
• 52:19
  Speaker 6: if I had not been so stupid, we'd have won
• 52:21
  Speaker 6: that game. And it's like, look, I think they have
• 52:23
  Speaker 6: a lot of work to do.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: I really do.
• 52:25
  Speaker 6: And something's going on with Puka Nakua. I don't know
• 52:27
  Speaker 6: what it is, but, you know, reporter instincts. Something weird
• 52:30
  Speaker 6: is going on there.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: Something very weird. Well, he's weird, and something weird is
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: going on with him. And, yeah, the hip injury and
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: whatever that is. The unfortunate thing is they do have Devontae.
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: Cardinals get the 49ers in Santa Clara this week, so
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: that should be a 3-0 start for San Francisco. Rams
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: go to the Broncos. That's going to be a Sunday
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: night game. That's a crazy interesting game. Broncos looked like
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: garbage week one, looked a lot better last week. Rams,
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: exactly the same thing. Garbage week one, really good last week.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: It's way early, but someone's going to come out of
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: their one and two, and both those teams both had
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: designs on winning a division. And, oh, by the way,
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: if you're the Broncos, you've got a little team you've
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: got to worry about called the Chiefs that look pretty good.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: And the Rams have two teams to worry about in
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: front of them. They can ill afford another loss.
• 53:20
  Speaker 6: Well, you know, the thing about, I don't know what
• 53:22
  Speaker 6: you've seen from Denver, but I just think Bo Nix
• 53:25
  Speaker 6: just isn't it. And he just hasn't looked great. And
• 53:28
  Speaker 6: usually what happens is after you have a season in
• 53:30
  Speaker 6: which you win a bunch of close games, that tends
• 53:33
  Speaker 6: to even itself out. There's no logic behind that or
• 53:35
  Speaker 6: analytics or anything, but.
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: It just does.
• 53:37
  Speaker 6: And they want a bunch of last second games with
• 53:39
  Speaker 6: Bo Nix. He just doesn't look the same defensively. Denver's
• 53:42
  Speaker 6: a good team. There's no doubt. Denver's a good team defensively,
• 53:45
  Speaker 6: but for this is a second.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: Year in a row.
• 53:47
  Speaker 6: Now they don't run the ball. They're 27th and rushing yards.
• 53:50
  Speaker 6: They just, they weren't good running the ball last year.
• 53:53
  Speaker 6: And if you want to play the game of play defense,
• 53:55
  Speaker 6: run the ball, they just don't have the ability to
• 53:57
  Speaker 6: do that.
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: No.
• 53:58
  Speaker 6: Now, having said that, we're going to all play them
• 54:00
  Speaker 6: in the, in short order, you know, and that's the,
• 54:02
  Speaker 6: you know, that's the whole thing that's coming up. And
• 54:04
  Speaker 6: then of course, you know, we're going to see each
• 54:06
  Speaker 6: other after this next week. And I think the Niners
• 54:09
  Speaker 6: are just, they're just, you know, no offense to the Cardinals,
• 54:12
  Speaker 6: Cardinals can't play. So what that advantage gives the 49ers
• 54:16
  Speaker 6: is they can, coaches never say this, but they do it.
• 54:19
  Speaker 6: They keep an eye to that next one. Cause that
• 54:21
  Speaker 6: Seattle game for.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: The 49ers is massive, massive game. No doubt. John Lund
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: joining us brought to you by Chambers Bay distillery. How
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: much trouble are the Bears in right now, do you think?
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: Another team that had designs on winning the NFC, and
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: now Caleb's got an owie, apparently. We thought he was
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: maybe going to have to get put down or something,
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: but he's okay. I mean... Oh, my God. People mocking
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: him so bad right now for that. And then, you know,
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: your backups hurt.
• 54:45
  Speaker 6: That's one of the best. By the way, that's that's
• 54:47
  Speaker 6: one of the best meme memes I've ever seen in
• 54:49
  Speaker 6: my life. Like, you know, me getting out of bed and,
• 54:51
  Speaker 6: you know, stepping on a Lego or I mean, just
• 54:53
  Speaker 6: like I mean, the whole like there's hundreds right now.
• 54:56
  Speaker 6: Do you ever do that thing where you you sit
• 55:00
  Speaker 6: there for like 10 minutes? I kids do it all
• 55:02
  Speaker 6: day long, but you sit there for like 10 minutes.
• 55:03
  Speaker 6: You're like, what am I doing? Like you scroll. And
• 55:05
  Speaker 6: I did that this morning where I was like, I
• 55:07
  Speaker 6: was busy. I had things to do, but the memes
• 55:09
  Speaker 6: were so good on Caleb Williams. You know, it's like,
• 55:12
  Speaker 6: you know, I mowed the lawn and it was 82
• 55:14
  Speaker 6: degrees or like, I mean, they just one after the other,
• 55:17
  Speaker 6: after the other of hilariousness with Caleb Williams. I'd hate
• 55:21
  Speaker 6: if that guy was my quarterback.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: There was a, there was a great thing last night.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: There's a preseason game with an Islanders and flyers, I
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: think in the NHL and Kyle Palomari, that one of
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: the players for the Islanders, So they show him in
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: the corner. He's in pain. He's trying to stand up.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: The play goes the other end. In one play, he
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: stole the puck, sent a guy ahead for a goal.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: So he got a takeaway. He got an assist. And
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: apparently he also tore his ACL. And the guy, I
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: think the beat writer for the Islanders, like Kyle, he
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: did all those three things. I actually said, he's in
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: the corner crying right now because he might have hurt
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: his knee. And he goes, actually, just kidding. He's in
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: the corner trying to stand up after stealing the puck,
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: and getting his cysts and skating off on his own
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: with a torn ACL. and just making fun of Caleb
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: Williams and like all these NFL writers, like Albert Brewer,
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: that's not right. Bah, bah, bah. Like, shut up. It's
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: totally right. It's totally do. It's totally right.
• 56:14
  Speaker 6: You cannot, you cannot go off the field like that.
• 56:17
  Speaker 6: Put the towel over your head. Cause that, that's become
• 56:20
  Speaker 6: a thing. Like you're off the field. And then what
• 56:23
  Speaker 6: happens is you, you put the towel over your head
• 56:26
  Speaker 6: and that gives an indication to the crowd. Like this
• 56:28
  Speaker 6: is a season ender. This is an Achilles knee. Like,
• 56:30
  Speaker 6: That's what you're telling the crowd. And then he did
• 56:33
  Speaker 6: that for a hamstring strain in which he might miss
• 56:36
  Speaker 6: one to two weeks.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 56:37
  Speaker 6: No, no, no, no. But that's the USC guy. I mean, that's,
• 56:41
  Speaker 6: that's what they do.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: God, who do you write? See, I'm really good. Fight on.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: I'm fight on. I'm rooting for you. I'm rooting for
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: USC this week against Oregon, by the way. That's I'm, I'm,
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: I'm going down. Damn. Dan Lanning.
• 56:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's true.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: Dan Lanning's it's adult, man. That guy's just a knucklehead.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: I'm done with scoring 84.
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: Like, yeah.
• 57:00
  Speaker 6: By the way, if you're Portland State, they've scored 81
• 57:02
  Speaker 6: and 84 on you. Look, I'm not smart. I'm not
• 57:05
  Speaker 6: an athletic director. I don't know. Maybe don't play Oregon anymore.
• 57:08
  Speaker 6: How about that?
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: Aren't you the former sideline reporter for Portland State?
• 57:12
  Speaker 6: Yes. Yes. I did Portland State sidelines very well. Very well.
• 57:18
  Speaker 6: I was like, who's going to say that? Clarissa Thompson,
• 57:21
  Speaker 6: you just make stuff up. I did that all the time. Like, well,
• 57:23
  Speaker 6: this is what he just told me. No, he didn't.
• 57:25
  Speaker 6: He didn't even come over to you.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: I think Tim Walsh was the coach, and I know
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: he didn't like you, so I'm sure he probably never
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: talked to you. I just talked to Coach Walsh. No,
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: you didn't. He just said this, this, this, and this.
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 57:40
  Speaker 6: He would just glare at me from across the field.
• 57:43
  Speaker 6: I'd start walking towards him. He would just glare at
• 57:45
  Speaker 6: me like, are you kidding me? I'm not talking to you.
• 57:48
  Speaker 6: What are you, insane?
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: We're down 48-0 to Montana. I'm not talking to your ass.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: That's not going to happen.
• 57:52
  Speaker 6: 81 points. Oregon just scored 81 points on us. Yeah,
• 57:57
  Speaker 6: let me go talk to you.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, those guys aren't doing that. There's just no chance.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: John Lund joining us. Yeah, who's in the most trouble
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: in the NFC, do you think? Because 0-2, we can
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: always look at those numbers and say, well, it's this, this,
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: and this. But who's in the most trouble right now?
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: Is it Tampa Bay at 0-2? Oh yeah. You know,
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: but yeah.
• 58:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean, they could, they could come back, but
• 58:22
  Speaker 6: the saints look like they.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: Might be something.
• 58:25
  Speaker 6: I'm not going to mention that Shucks from Oregon, but
• 58:26
  Speaker 6: I mean, you know, they might be something and they look,
• 58:29
  Speaker 6: they look good at least through the first couple of games.
• 58:32
  Speaker 6: And then, you know, the, the bucks are in trouble.
• 58:35
  Speaker 6: I don't know. I've been, I'm going to hold out
• 58:37
  Speaker 6: on the Rams a little bit and just to see,
• 58:38
  Speaker 6: I'm not going to call them trouble, but you know,
• 58:40
  Speaker 6: their expectations are Superbowl or.
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: Bust, right?
• 58:42
  Speaker 6: I mean, have they been that in the first two games?
• 58:44
  Speaker 6: That's all I'm saying. I'm just saying it against expectations.
• 58:47
  Speaker 6: I just haven't seen it.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: God, just Denver. Can you imagine if Denver gets a
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: win over them? How fantastic that would be.
• 58:52
  Speaker 6: I think they could.
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, God.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: Seattle's got to go to D.C. They're taking on your
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: friend Marcus Mariota this weekend.
• 59:01
  Speaker 6: That's a layup. I mean, I got into it today
• 59:06
  Speaker 6: with somebody over at Jaden Daniels because, you know, everybody
• 59:08
  Speaker 6: loves to talk about Brock Purdy here and Werner. he
• 59:10
  Speaker 6: rank as a quarterback? I'm like, I don't care. But
• 59:12
  Speaker 6: after I got beyond that, somebody was talking about Jane Daniels.
• 59:15
  Speaker 6: I'm like, you know, I hate to be so simplistic,
• 59:17
  Speaker 6: but he looks like RG three, just, he's not big enough.
• 59:20
  Speaker 6: And we're seeing quarterbacks and this happens every year, but
• 59:23
  Speaker 6: he overreacts to it, but we're seeing quarterbacks that, going out,
• 59:26
  Speaker 6: we were just talking about Caleb Williams and, but you know,
• 59:29
  Speaker 6: Jaden Daniels is going down. There's a ton of guys.
• 59:30
  Speaker 6: You just mentioned Bajan. He's the backup has a concussion.
• 59:34
  Speaker 6: Now Darnold's already out. I mean, it's just even guys
• 59:38
  Speaker 6: who are built to do this that are big, you know, six, four,
• 59:40
  Speaker 6: 230 pound guys, Daniels is just too small, you know,
• 59:44
  Speaker 6: and it looked like for a minute there that they
• 59:45
  Speaker 6: were going to be something in the NFC and they just,
• 59:48
  Speaker 6: they're not, they just, they can't keep the kid healthy.
• 59:50
  Speaker 6: It's too bad.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: All right, first one with the new sponsor of the books.
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: I don't think you offended anybody, not that I know of,
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: that would make them mad, so that's good. I think
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: Alan and Jeff will be cool with that.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 6: Well, they don't start sending me some whiskey, like, post-haste. Like,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 6: you know, then we're going to have trouble. I'm just kidding.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: I love them.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 6: I love them dearly.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: So bourbon, vodka, and gin are their spirits. No tequila, sorry,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: but they got bourbon.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 6: I'm all right with that.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: So, yeah.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 6: I'm all right with that.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: Your preference is bourbon, I'm assuming, correct?
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 6: Yes, 100%. But, you know, like I said, it's, you know,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 6: whatever you think I'm picky do you think I know
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 6: you know I look like this because I'm picky I
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 6: look terrible no that's mainly because of you know booze's.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: Fault I do know no.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 6: That's just one of our we just know I mean
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 6: I'm not gonna pull people you know try to think
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 6: because I don't want to set expect I'd like to
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 6: set expectations like what people do especially from Seattle like
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 6: They'll look me up for some reason. Don't do that.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 6: And then they'll be like, oh, my God. And I'm like, yeah,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 6: I tried to tell you. I'm not setting expectations. You're
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 6: not talking to Brad Pitt here, okay?
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: For sure. I can confirm that.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 6: You're talking to the elephant man, you know?
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 6: I'm a human being.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: I know. I know. Well, you tricked that fangirl into
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: marrying you at one point. So, I mean, I don't know.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: I'm still trying to figure that one out.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know how that happened. It was all
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 6: my money and, you know, all that stuff.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: Big time radio talent in Portland. I think that's what
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: it was. Yeah.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 6: I think they paid me like $ 60 there.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: Woo!
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. crushing it. All right. We'll talk to you next week, buddy.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: Are you doing national stuff this weekend too? Are you national?
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah. Dude, college, Saturday and Sunday with college ball. I'm
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 6: on from, let's see, Seattle time. I'm on from, get
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 6: off one to five. And we just do this show
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 6: that's just like, it just bounces. Remember those shows like
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 6: on ESPN, they do the weekends. It just bounces from
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 6: place to place. Yeah. That's what happened. That NC State
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 6: Vandy game was like right in the middle of the show.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: How about that?
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 6: You know how I have 80, yeah, it's like I
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 6: have ADD and they're putting me on this show and
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 6: it's like, what just happened? Like I'm watching it with
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 6: no sound. And I'm like, what just happened in Vanderbilt,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 6: North Carolina state got to get fired. Anyway, that's a
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 6: whole nother story.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: Whole nother story. All right. We'll talk to you next week, buddy.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: Take care.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 6: All right, brother. Thank you, man.
• 1:02:04
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• 1:02:06
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