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Jealous’ Judge Shot Ex in the Head While He Slept · Murder Files Unsealed

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  Speaker 1: When you walk into a courtroom, I mean, the architecture
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  Speaker 1: itself is literally designed to make you feel incredibly small.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. It's totally intentional. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Like you have the heavy wooden double doors, the gallery seating,
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  Speaker 1: the rigid separation of the bar. And then, you know,
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  Speaker 1: looming above all of it, you have the bench.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Where the judge sits physically higher than everyone else
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  Speaker 2: in the entire room.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. They wear that sweeping black robe. They hold the gavel.
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  Speaker 1: And society just... we sort of implicitly agree that the
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  Speaker 1: person sitting up there has transcended normal human flaws.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we have to. It's this profound psychological safety net
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  Speaker 2: for society, you know?
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  Speaker 1: Right, because we trust them to be the ultimate arbiters
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  Speaker 1: of truth and logic and consequence. We assume they're somehow
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  Speaker 1: immune to the very impulses that bring defendants into their
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  Speaker 1: courtrooms in the first place.
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  Speaker 2: Right. We have to believe that the individuals who are
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  Speaker 2: interpreting the law, the people holding the actual power to
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  Speaker 2: take away your freedoms, are fundamentally insulated from the chaos
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  Speaker 2: of breaking those same laws themselves. I mean, the entire
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  Speaker 2: legal system functions on this assumption.
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  Speaker 1: That the authority set here at the top of the
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  Speaker 1: room is just tethered to a higher moral standard.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly, a higher ethical standard.
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  Speaker 1: But the reality, and this is what's so terrifying, is
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  Speaker 1: that the robe is really just a piece of fabric.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The person wearing it is just a human being. And
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  Speaker 1: human beings are, you know, they're messy, they're unpredictable, and
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  Speaker 1: sometimes they are entirely unhinged.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, completely. Which is exactly what we're getting into today.
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  Speaker 1: Right. So today we are looking at a scenario that
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  Speaker 1: completely shatters that beautiful, orderly illusion of the courtroom. We're
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  Speaker 1: asking this genuinely terrifying question. What happens when the person
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  Speaker 1: wielding the gavel is actually the one who belongs in handcuffs?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So welcome to the deep dive. Today we're unpacking a
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  Speaker 1: case that forces us to question the very foundation of
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  Speaker 1: the justice system. We're looking at the shocking story of
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  Speaker 1: former Harrisburg District Judge Sonia McKnight, who was just recently
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  Speaker 1: convicted of shooting her ex-boyfriend in the head while he slept.
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  Speaker 2: And this, I really want to stress this to you,
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  Speaker 2: this goes so far beyond a standard true crime narrative.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, completely.
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  Speaker 2: Our mission today, using these incredibly detailed insights drawn from
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  Speaker 2: the Law and Crime Network's trial coverage and this really
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  Speaker 2: fascinating peer-level analysis by Texas Judge Brandon Birmingham, is to
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  Speaker 2: completely dissect the mechanics of a systemic nightmare. Right.
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  Speaker 1: We're getting to the weeds of how this actually works.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. We are going to examine the physiological reality of
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  Speaker 2: surviving a gunshot wound in your sleep, the intricate legal
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  Speaker 2: hurdles of using traumatized statements in court, and this bizarre
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  Speaker 2: psychological paradox of a legal expert attempting a criminal cover-up.
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  Speaker 1: Because we're talking about someone who knows every loophole, every
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  Speaker 1: forensic procedure, every rule of evidence, suddenly finding themselves on
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  Speaker 1: the wrong side of the interrogation table.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's wild. How does a judge attempt to hide
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  Speaker 2: their guilt? Right.
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  Speaker 1: And how does the local legal community prosecute one of
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  Speaker 1: their own without it looking like a rigged game?
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  Speaker 2: Which is a massive logistical hurdle. Huge.
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  Speaker 1: And most importantly, we are going to look at the
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  Speaker 1: staggering ripple effects. Because when a judge commits a violent felony,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it throws every single ruling they have ever
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  Speaker 1: made into question.
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  Speaker 2: The fallout is just catastrophic. You aren't just putting one
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  Speaker 2: person on trial, you know. You're putting the integrity of
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  Speaker 2: the institution itself on trial.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And to understand how community deals with that kind of betrayal,
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  Speaker 2: we really have to start by looking at the deeply personal,
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  Speaker 2: incredibly volatile timeline that led up to the violence. We
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  Speaker 2: need to examine that transition from just an everyday domestic
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  Speaker 2: dispute into this premeditated act of survival and arrogance.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let's unpack this. Let's wind the clock back to
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  Speaker 1: February 2024. Judge Sonia McKnight is 55 years old, sitting
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  Speaker 1: on the bench in Dauphin County, Pennsylvania. And for about
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  Speaker 1: a year, she has been in a relationship with a
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  Speaker 1: man named Michael McCoy.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And like millions of relationships across the world, this one
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  Speaker 1: is quietly failing. McCoy decides he's ready to move on,
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  Speaker 1: so he initiates a breakup. But he doesn't just ask
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  Speaker 1: for space. He explicitly tells McKnight he wants her to
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  Speaker 1: move out of his home, and he actually takes her key.
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  Speaker 2: And that specific detail taking the key is the psychological
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  Speaker 2: ignition point of this entire timeline.
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  Speaker 1: Because it's so final.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. A key is the ultimate symbol of access, you know,
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  Speaker 2: of permission. By physically revoking that key, McCoy is shifting
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  Speaker 2: the dynamic from this mutual negotiation about the relationship to
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  Speaker 2: a unilateral decree. He is drawing an undeniable physical boundary.
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  Speaker 1: And think about who he's drawing that boundary with. He
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  Speaker 1: is taking access away from a sitting judge.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Someone whose entire professional existence revolves around having the final say.
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  Speaker 1: Like when a judge makes a ruling, the conversation is over.
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  Speaker 1: They literally dictate the terms of reality for the people
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  Speaker 1: in their courtroom.
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  Speaker 2: They absolutely do.
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  Speaker 1: And suddenly in her personal life, McKnight is having the
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  Speaker 1: terms dictated to her. That has to create just a
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  Speaker 1: massive psychological vacuum for her.
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  Speaker 2: The loss of control is absolute. I mean, for someone
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  Speaker 2: who is so accustomed to wielding unchecked authority, having that
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  Speaker 2: control stripped away in such a definitive physical manner, it
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  Speaker 2: can trigger a profound emotional crisis.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: It basically creates an environment where the boundaries of normal,
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  Speaker 2: acceptable behavior just begin to rapidly dissolve.
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  Speaker 1: Which we see perfectly illustrated because those boundaries completely vanish
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  Speaker 1: by February 9th. So McCoy comes home expecting an empty house,
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  Speaker 1: having explicitly taken his key back. But when he walks
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  Speaker 1: in the door, Sonia McKnight is just sitting on his couch.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And she isn't just sitting there. She is wearing her pajamas. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, everyone who has ever gone through a breakup
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  Speaker 1: knows they're messy.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, sure. Always.
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  Speaker 1: There's usually a lingering conversation or maybe a box of
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  Speaker 1: stuff to pick up, some awkward text messages. But coming
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  Speaker 1: home to find your ex sitting on your furniture in
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  Speaker 1: their sleepwear after you essentially evicted them. That isn't just
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  Speaker 1: an awkward lingering attachment. That feels like a blaring emotional
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  Speaker 1: fire alarm.
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  Speaker 2: It is a highly calculated assertion of dominance.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, really?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Wearing pajamas is this profound nonverbal statement. It
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  Speaker 2: communicates that she is not a guest. She is not
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  Speaker 2: just stopping by to chat. She is claiming residency.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I see.
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  Speaker 2: It's a direct challenge to the boundary he set by
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  Speaker 2: taking the key. She is effectively telling him that his rules,
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  Speaker 2: his space, and his boundaries hold absolutely no jurisdiction over
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  Speaker 2: her actions. She is attempting to reestablish that control she lost.
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  Speaker 1: It's incredibly invasive. And McCoy, I mean, to his credit,
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  Speaker 1: he reacts with an astonishing amount of restraint here. Instead
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  Speaker 1: of screaming, instead of escalating the conflict right there in
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  Speaker 1: the living room, he just turns around and leaves.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: He goes out to a restaurant. He tries to give
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  Speaker 1: the situation some oxygen, you know. And when he finally
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  Speaker 1: comes back to the house, he still refuses to engage
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  Speaker 1: in a screaming match. He just tells her they will
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  Speaker 1: discuss the situation in the morning. He walks into the
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  Speaker 1: guest bedroom, closes the door, and goes to sleep around
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  Speaker 1: 11 p.m.
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  Speaker 2: He is employing textbook de-escalation tactics right there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, just walking away.
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  Speaker 2: He's removing himself from a highly volatile environment. He's attempting
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  Speaker 2: to lower the emotional temperature. And he's applying logic to
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  Speaker 2: a situation that is rapidly becoming irrational. I mean, he
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  Speaker 2: is basically assuming... that a good night's sleep will bring
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  Speaker 2: some sense of normalcy to the morning.
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  Speaker 1: But normalcy is entirely gone. Because a few hours later,
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  Speaker 1: in the dead of night, McCoy wakes up. But he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't wake up to an alarm clock or a loud
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  Speaker 1: noise or something. He wakes up to a sensation of unimaginable,
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  Speaker 1: searing pain in his head.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's horrific.
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  Speaker 1: He opens his eyes and realizes he is completely blind.
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  Speaker 1: He cannot see the room. He cannot see his own hands.
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  Speaker 1: And as he is lying there, just trapped in this
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  Speaker 1: sudden agonizing darkness, he hears McKnight's voice near him.
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  Speaker 2: And what she says is?
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  Speaker 1: She asks him a question that will literally become central
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  Speaker 1: to the entire trial. She says, Mike, what did you
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  Speaker 1: do to yourself?
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  Speaker 2: That is arguably one of the most chilling, sinister sentences
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  Speaker 2: ever spoken at a crime scene.
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  Speaker 1: It really is. But before we even touch the psychology
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  Speaker 1: of that question. I am just stuck on the sheer
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  Speaker 1: physiological mechanics of this moment. Because McCoy testifies later that
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  Speaker 1: when he woke up in that agony, he honestly thought
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  Speaker 1: he was having a massive aneurysm.
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  Speaker 2: He had no idea he had been shot. How is
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  Speaker 2: that medically possible? Like, if a firearm goes off inches
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  Speaker 2: from your head, how does your brain not immediately register
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  Speaker 2: the sound of the gunshot and the physical trauma as
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  Speaker 2: an external attack? How do you wake up thinking it's
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  Speaker 2: a medical emergency?
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  Speaker 1: I know. It sounds totally impossible until you break down
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  Speaker 1: the extreme physiology of catastrophic trauma. Okay. First, you really
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  Speaker 1: have to consider the state he was in. He was
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  Speaker 1: in deep REM sleep. His cognitive defenses, his situational awareness,
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  Speaker 1: they were completely powered down. So when a bullet enters
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  Speaker 1: the facial structure, the concussive force is so violently immense
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  Speaker 1: that it instantly overloads the central nervous system. Wow. And remember,
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  Speaker 1: the brain itself doesn't actually have pain receptors. The trauma
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  Speaker 1: to the surrounding tissue, the sudden swelling, and the destruction
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  Speaker 1: of the optic nerves, all of that happens in a
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  Speaker 1: fraction of a millisecond.
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  Speaker 2: So the system basically shorts out before it can even
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  Speaker 2: process the sound of the blast. Yes, exactly. The brain
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  Speaker 2: wakes up to a state of absolute catastrophic overload. It
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  Speaker 2: frantically scrambles to find a logical explanation for the sudden
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  Speaker 2: pain and the blindness. Because McCoy didn't see an attacker
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  Speaker 2: and because he was supposedly safe in his own home,
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  Speaker 2: in his own bed, his brain searches for an internal
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  Speaker 2: medical cause.
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  Speaker 1: Like a burst blood vessel.
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  Speaker 2: Right. A stroke, an aneurysm. These are the only logical
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  Speaker 2: explanations his mind can access in that fraction of a second.
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  Speaker 2: Because being shot in the head while sleeping is just
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  Speaker 2: so far outside the realm of expected human experience.
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  Speaker 1: His brain is desperately trying to impose logic onto an
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  Speaker 1: impossible reality. And in that exact second, when he is
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  Speaker 1: more vulnerable, more confused, more terrified than any human being
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  Speaker 1: could possibly be, McKnight leans in and asks, what did
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  Speaker 1: you do to yourself?
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  Speaker 2: She is literally weaponizing his confusion.
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  Speaker 1: That's so dark. It is the.
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  Speaker 2: absolute pinnacle of gaslighting, deployed in a moment of acute
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  Speaker 2: medical trauma. She knows his cognitive defenses are completely obliterated.
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  Speaker 2: By asking that specific question right then, she is actively
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  Speaker 2: attempting to rewrite his reality in real time. She is
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  Speaker 2: planting a seed of doubt, suggesting to a man who
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  Speaker 2: cannot see and cannot think clearly that He somehow inflicted
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  Speaker 2: this catastrophic wound upon himself.
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  Speaker 1: So she is setting the stage for a suicide defense
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  Speaker 1: before the ambulance has even been called. It is just
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  Speaker 1: so predatory. But McCoyer's innate survival instinct kicks in. He
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  Speaker 1: doesn't succumb to the suggestion.
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  Speaker 2: No, he doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: And this transition from the bloody guest bedroom to the
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  Speaker 1: back of an ambulance is where the medical nightmare actually
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  Speaker 1: transforms into the foundational legal strategy for the prosecution. because
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  Speaker 1: the words McCoy manages to speak while bleeding from the
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  Speaker 1: head become the absolute cornerstone of the state's case.
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  Speaker 2: It is the critical pivot from a frantic crime scene
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  Speaker 2: to the meticulous collection of vital evidence. His lucidity in
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  Speaker 2: that ambulance is really nothing short of miraculous.
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  Speaker 1: So he's rushed to the hospital. He has suffered permanent damage.
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  Speaker 1: He is permanently blind in his right eye, a devastating
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  Speaker 1: injury that is going to require lifelong complex treatment from
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  Speaker 1: an ophthalmologist, not to mention multiple major reconstructive surgeries, just
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  Speaker 1: to manage the facial trauma. He is quite literally fighting
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  Speaker 1: for his life. But even through the haze of shock
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  Speaker 1: and agony, he pulls the EMTs and the medical staff
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  Speaker 1: close and communicates two very specific, very deliberate things.
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  Speaker 2: And this is key.
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  Speaker 1: First, he pleads with them to save his life. He
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  Speaker 1: tells them, if my heart stops, if I stop breathing,
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  Speaker 1: you do everything you can to bring me back.
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  Speaker 2: Which completely vaporizes the narrative that this was a suicidal
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  Speaker 2: man who wanted to end his life.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely. And second, he tells them explicitly, without any
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  Speaker 1: room for misinterpretation, I did not shoot myself. I am
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  Speaker 1: not suicidal.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Now, when I hear about out-of-court statements being brought into
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  Speaker 1: a trial, my brain immediately flags a major legal roadblock, hearsay.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, the hearsay rule.
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  Speaker 1: Usually if a police officer gets on the witness stand
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  Speaker 1: and says, well, the victim told me in the ambulance
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  Speaker 1: that his ex-girlfriend shot him, the defense attorney is going
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  Speaker 1: to jump up and object because the Constitution demands that
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  Speaker 1: the defense gets to cross-examine their accuser. If you're just
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  Speaker 1: quoting someone who isn't on the stand right then, the
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  Speaker 1: defense can't question them about their memory, their eyesight, or
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  Speaker 1: their motives at the time. So how does a prosecutor
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  Speaker 1: get those ambulance statements in front of a jury? If
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  Speaker 1: the defense argues that McCoy was just hallucinating or rambling
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  Speaker 1: in a state of terrified panic, how does the law
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  Speaker 1: validate those words as absolute truth?
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  Speaker 2: It is a massive legal hurdle, and Judge Birmingham provided
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  Speaker 2: a real master class on how prosecutors navigate this during
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  Speaker 2: his analysis. You have perfectly captured the underlying philosophy of
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  Speaker 2: the hearsay rule there. The courts are highly suspicious of
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  Speaker 2: secondhand information because it lacks the crucible of cross-examination. We
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  Speaker 2: want the person who made the statement sitting in the
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  Speaker 2: witness box swearing an oath and facing the person they
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  Speaker 2: are accusing.
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  Speaker 1: Which makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: It does. But the law is not entirely blind to
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  Speaker 2: human nature. It recognizes that there are specific extreme circumstances
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  Speaker 2: where human behavior produces statements that are inherently, undeniably trustworthy.
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  Speaker 1: Meaning the circumstances themselves guarantee the truth, so it basically
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  Speaker 1: bypasses the need for a cross-examination. Precisely.
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  Speaker 2: Judge Birmingham detailed the exceptions to the hearsay rule that
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  Speaker 2: completely saved the prosecution's case here. And the most powerful
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  Speaker 2: one is called the excited utterance.
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  Speaker 1: OK, I have to ask, what makes an utterance so
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  Speaker 1: legally excited that a judge just lets it bypass the Constitution?
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  Speaker 2: Great question. An excited utterance is a statement made about
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  Speaker 2: a startling event made while the person is still under
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  Speaker 2: the intense, immediate stress of that event. Think about the
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  Speaker 2: intersection of law and neuroscience here.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: When a human being is experiencing profound agonizing pain, or
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  Speaker 2: when they are literally staring down their own imminent death,
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  Speaker 2: they simply do not possess the cognitive capacity to fabricate
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  Speaker 2: a complex strategic lie.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I see what you mean. It's almost like a
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  Speaker 1: computer that has sustained massive physical damage, and the processor
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  Speaker 1: is allocating 100% of its RAM just to keep the
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  Speaker 1: operating system from crashing.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: There's literally no processing power left over to run a
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  Speaker 1: background program like... frame my ex-girlfriend for attempted murder. The
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  Speaker 1: brain is solely focused on drawing the next breath. And
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  Speaker 1: the law actually recognizes that biological reality.
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  Speaker 2: That is a phenomenal analogy. Yes. The trauma entirely strips
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  Speaker 2: away the capacity for deception. The words that come out
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  Speaker 2: of a victim's mouth in that state are just a raw,
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  Speaker 2: unfiltered expression of their perceived reality. Wow. They aren't strategizing
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  Speaker 2: for a trial a year from now. You know, they're
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  Speaker 2: trying to survive the next 30 seconds. Therefore, the law
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  Speaker 2: deems those statements incredibly reliable. When McCoy tells the EMTs,
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  Speaker 2: I did not shoot myself, the court trusts the panic.
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  Speaker 1: That is fascinating. And Judge Birmingham mentioned a couple of
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  Speaker 1: other exceptions that layer on top of this, right? Like
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  Speaker 1: present sense impression and state of mind. Yeah. How do
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  Speaker 1: those fortify the case?
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  Speaker 2: So a present sense impression is a statement describing an
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  Speaker 2: event made while perceiving it or immediately afterward. It is
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  Speaker 2: a real-time narration. But the state of mind exception, that
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  Speaker 2: is the real lethal blow to McKnight's defense. The law
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  Speaker 2: allows statements that demonstrate a person's then existing mental, emotional
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  Speaker 2: or physical condition. When McCoy pleads, save me and states,
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  Speaker 2: I am not suicidal. He is directly establishing his internal
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  Speaker 2: emotional state at the time of the shooting. It creates
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  Speaker 2: an impenetrable shield against her gaslighting.
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  Speaker 1: It's the ultimate counter narrative. His sheer biological will to
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  Speaker 1: survive completely dismantled her legal defense before she even had
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  Speaker 1: a chance to build it. Exactly. But this brings us
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  Speaker 1: to what is easily the most baffling, paradoxical part of
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  Speaker 1: this entire deep dive. Because while McCoy is in the
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  Speaker 1: ambulance establishing his truth, we have to look at what
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  Speaker 1: Sonia McKnight is actually doing back at the house.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking about someone who has spent her career mastering
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  Speaker 1: the rules of evidence, presiding over criminal cases and evaluating
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  Speaker 1: police procedures. How does an expert in the law attempt
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  Speaker 1: to hide her own crimes?
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  Speaker 2: It is a breathtaking transition from a violent tragedy into
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  Speaker 2: a display of absolute criminal incompetence fueled by sheer arrogance.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's lay out the evidence of the cover-up because
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  Speaker 1: it is just staggering. First, the 911 call. McKnight claimed
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  Speaker 1: she heard screaming from the other room but didn't know
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  Speaker 1: what was happening. Yet McCoy testified that when he was
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  Speaker 1: blinded and screaming for his life, she did not immediately
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  Speaker 1: call for help.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: She delayed it.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Right, she delayed medical intervention. And even worse... He testified
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: that she led him away from the bedroom where the
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: shooting occurred, guiding him to the furthest bathroom on the
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: second floor of the house.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: Which serves two deeply malicious, highly calculated purposes.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, what are they?
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: First, every minute you delay an ambulance for a gunshot
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: wound to the head drastically increases the likelihood of a fatality.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: A fatality ensures the only opposing witness is permanently silenced. Right. Second,
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: moving a heavily bleeding victim from the primary crime scene
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: to a secondary location intentionally disrupts the physical evidence. It
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: changes the blood spatter patterns. It creates confusing trails for
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: the forensics team. And it basically injects chaos into the
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: first responders assessment of what actually transpired.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: But then the calculation completely falls apart because she tells
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: homicide detectives that she never left the house that night,
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: which is a completely unnecessary lie because the neighborhood is
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: blanketed in surveillance cameras. And the footage instantly proves she did,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: in fact, leave the house at one point.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: It's just a sloppy mistake.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Exactly. And then we look at the physical evidence. The
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: firearm used, it was registered to her. The gunshot residue,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: or GSR, which is that microscopic cloud of chemicals that
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: settles on you when you fire a weapon, it was
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: found all over her hands and her clothing. And then
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: we get the testimony that just defies belief.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, the precinct behavior.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Yes. One witness testified that before the police could administer
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: the GSR swab, McKnight washed her hands at least once.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Another officer testified that while she was at the police
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: station being questioned, she literally dropped an article of her
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: clothing into a toilet.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Flushing evidence in a police precinct. I mean, it is
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: a detail so absurd you would reject it if you
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: saw it in a movie.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: It really is. But here is where I have to
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: pause and look at this from a defense attorney's perspective
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: for a second. If you wake up in the middle
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: of night to your partner screaming and they're covered in blood,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: And you get their blood on your hands while trying
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: to help them to a bathroom.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Isn't washing your hands just a normal, panicked human reaction? Right.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Couldn't a defense lawyer argue that dropping clothes or moving
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: a victim isn't a mastermind tampering with a crime scene,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: but just the irrational, chaotic behavior of someone in deep shock?
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: It is exactly the narrative the defense tried to construct.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: They heavily emphasized the chaos of the moment. They even
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: pointed out that McCoy actually had a higher concentration of
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: gunshot residue on him than McKnight did, arguing that her
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: mere presence in the room doesn't conclusively prove she pulled
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: the trigger.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Right, because he was the one who was shot.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Exactly. And you are right. A layperson covered in blood
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: might instinctively wash their hands out of sheer horror. Right.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Hygiene overrules logic when you're panicking.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: However, Judge Birmingham provided a vital lens through which the
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: jury viewed this behavior. You simply cannot evaluate Sonia McKnight's
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: actions as if she were a layperson. She is a judge.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: She possesses highly specialized technical knowledge of the justice system.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: She has presided over countless cases involving trace evidence, gunshot residue,
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: and the precise protocols of crime scene preservation. She knows
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: exactly how the forensic sausage is made.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: So the shield of innocent panic is... completely unavailable to her.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Entirely unavailable. When an average citizen washes their hands, it
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: might be shock. When a judge washes her hands right
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: before a gunshot residue test and intentionally drops clothing into
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: a police station toilet while actively being investigated for attempted murder,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: the jury infers a legal concept called consciousness of guilt.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Conscious sense of guilt. So the idea that your actions,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: your attempts to hide or destroy things, prove that you
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: internally know you committed a crime.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Yes. It is a devastating inference. Judge Birmingham framed her
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: behavior as this fatal intersection of short-sightedness and arrogance. You
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: commit a horrendous act in a moment of intense emotional volatility.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: But seconds later, the adrenaline clears just enough for you
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: to realize the microscopic reality of modern forensic science is
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: about to descend.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: On your You realize there's GSR on your skin.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Exactly. You realize your clothes are evidence. So you panic,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: but you panic in a uniquely legally educated way. You
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: try to wash away the trace evidence. You try to
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: flush the clothing. The profound arrogance lies in her belief
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: that she could outsmart the very machinery of justice she
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: helped operate in real time, right under the noses of
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: seasoned homicide detectives.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Her expertise was the exact thing that illuminated her guilt.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: She knew way too much to be making those mistakes innocently.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: And that brings us to the logistical nightmare of the
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: trial itself. Because prosecuting a sitting judge is not like
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: prosecuting anyone else. The system is designed to prosecute citizens.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: It is deeply uncomfortable prosecuting its own architects. How do
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: you ensure a fair trial when the defendant theoretically knows
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: how to manipulate the entire apparatus?
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: It is a massive stress test for the judicial framework.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, the structural integrity of the local justice system
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: is pushed to its absolute limits when a judge is indicted.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Think about the reality of this. Imagine you are on
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: trial for your life and the people deciding your fate,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: managing your paperwork and arguing the laws are the very
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: people you share a break room with. Right. The people
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: whose careers you might have advanced or hindered.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: The local prosecutor might have argued dozens of cases in
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: front of her. The bailiffs know her coffee order. The
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: conflict of interest isn't just a possibility. It's baked into
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: the drywall of the courthouse.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: So the state of Pennsylvania had to orchestrate this massive intervention.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: They brought in a special prosecutor from a completely different jurisdiction,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Cumberland County. And they didn't stop there. They literally bussed
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: in an entire jury pool from nearby Delaware County to
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: hear the case.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: The logistics of that are just monumental. You are talking
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: about coordinating secure transportation, lodging, feeding, and managing the security
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: of a group of citizens who have been entirely uprooted
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: from their own community to serve in another community. specifically
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: to insulate them from local politics. Wait.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Even with a jury from the next county over and
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: a prosecutor from out of town, she is still a judge.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: She is still operating within the broader Pennsylvania legal ecosystem. True.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Judges talk to each other at conferences. Defense attorneys talk.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Does busing in a jury actually sanitize the courtroom? Doesn't
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: her mere presence, the fact that she was a member
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: of the club, fundamentally taint the air in that room?
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Can a system... truly remain impartial when it's prosecuting one
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: of its own elite.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: That skepticism is entirely necessary, and it is exactly why
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: the legal system takes these interventions so seriously. The overarching
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: legal doctrine here isn't just about eliminating actual provable bias.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: It is about preventing the appearance of impropriety.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: The appearance of impropriety, meaning it doesn't matter if the
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: local prosecutor swears on a stack of Bibles that they
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: can be objective. The mere fact that the public might
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: suspect they're going easy on a friend is enough to
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: destroy the trial's validity.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: That is the crucial distinction. The justice system possesses neither
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: an army nor a treasury. It survives purely, entirely on
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: the trust of the public.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Wow, that's a great way to put it. Yeah.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: If the citizens of Dauphin County believe that a judge
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: received a lighter sentence or had evidence suppressed simply because
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: she was friends with the local district attorney, the integrity
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: of every future ruling in that courthouse is compromised. By
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: importing a prosecutor who has never argued before her and
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: a jury who never voted for her, the court builds
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: a firewall. They surgically remove her home court advantage.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: They neutralize the club. But the collateral damage of this
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: is staggering. Judge Birmingham pointed out a ripple effect that
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: I hadn't even considered. Because this firewall worked and she
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: was convicted of a violent felony and a cover-up, it
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: throws a massive shadow over her professional history.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Huge shadow.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: What happens to every single person she sentenced? while she
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: was going through this.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: It triggers a systemic audit of unprecedented scale. Every defense
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: attorney in the county who had a client convicted or
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: sentenced by Judge McKnight during this period is going to
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: be filing post-conviction writs.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Naturally.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: They will petition the appellate courts arguing that their client's
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: rights were violated. They will argue that if the judge
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: presiding over their case was under the extreme psychological stress
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: of a failing relationship, planning an attempted murder, and actively
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: engaging in a criminal cover-up, she could not possibly have
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: been exercising sound impartial judgment on the bench.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: So the state has to basically go back and prove
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: that her personal criminality didn't infect her professional rulings. Exactly.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: That is a bureaucratic nightmare. But it proves how intimately
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: tied a judge's personal morality is to their public duty.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: You cannot sever the two.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: You really can't.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Let's move into the courtroom proceedings themselves. Having established this
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: massive firewall to ensure fairness... The trial commenced and it
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: moved with astonishing speed, culminating in McCoy's devastating testimony.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: The velocity of a trial is often a direct reflection
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: of the sheer weight and clarity of the forensic evidence.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: When the physical proof is insurmountable, there are just fewer
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: avenues for a defense to explore.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: And the evidence here was an avalanche. The entire trial,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: start to finish, lasted only two days. Two days!
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: That's incredible!
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: On the very first day, immediately after opening statements... The
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Cumberland County prosecutor called 17 witnesses to the stand. That
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: is a relentless pace. They marched in police officers, forensics experts,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: and EMTs to rigidly corroborate the timeline, the gunshot residue,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: the surveillance footage, and McCoy's frantic pleas in the ambulance. Right.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: But the entire emotional gravity of the trial rested on
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: the moment Michael McCoy walked into the courtroom and took
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: the stand.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: It is incredibly rare in the annals of criminal law
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: to have a victim of a point blank gunshot wound
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: to the head while sleeping survive to look their attacker
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: in the eye in front of a jury.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: His mere physical presence in the witness box bearing the
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: visible permanent scars of her actions was the most devastating
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: piece of evidence the state possessed. And.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: His testimony provided a detail that completely changes how you
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: view the crime. He told the jury that the tension
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: had been building all week. He had been asking her
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: to leave his home every single day. But on the
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: night of the shooting, as he retreated to the guest bedroom,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: having taken her key, he recalled the very last words
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: she said to him before he closed his eyes.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: This part is so intense.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: She looked at him and said, Oh, so you're serious.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, so you're serious. It is a chilling realization of finality.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: I really want to break down the psychology of that
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: quote because it blurs the line between a sudden crime
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: of passion and a cold premeditated execution. We know the
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: relationship had been dissolving for a week. She had time
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: to process it, time to potentially plan.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: But did she spend those days calculating the perfect moment
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: to shoot him or was that specific sentence? Oh, so
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: you're serious. The exact trigger. Did she live in denial
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: for seven days, believing it was just a rough patch?
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: And then in that one moment when he went to
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: sleep in another room, the reality of the rejection shattered
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: her denial and caused her to snap.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: That is the exact psychological nuance the jury was tasked
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: with deciphering when evaluating the specific criminal charges. Judge Birmingham
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: offered a brilliant interpretation of this moment. He suggested that
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: while she obviously had the firearm in her possession beforehand,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: that specific phrase signifies the precise instant that reality breached
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: her psychological defenses. Right. For a week, she operated under
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: the delusion that this was a negotiation, a power struggle
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: she could eventually win. But when he goes to sleep
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: in another room, having physically removed her access to his life,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: the finality becomes absolute. The snap in this context isn't
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: a chaotic loss of bodily control. It is the terrifying
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: instant crystallization of lethal resolve.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: And the prosecution used that lethal resolve to build the
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: structure of the charges. They didn't just charge her with
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: pulling a trigger. They charged her with attempted murder and
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: they layered it with aggravated assault. If you were sitting
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: on that jury trying to figure out what was in
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: her head, how do you differentiate those two charges? Why
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: give the jury both options?
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: It is a highly strategic, very common maneuver by prosecutors
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: in cases of extreme violence. Attempted murder is what the
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: law calls a specific intent crime. The burden of proof
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: is extraordinarily high. The state must prove beyond a reasonable
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: doubt that Sonia McKnight's explicit, singular goal when she pulled
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: that trigger was to extinguish Michael McCoy's life.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: So it's not enough to prove she was angry?
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: No, not at all. It is not enough to prove
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: she was angry or reckless or wanted to hurt him.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: You have to essentially prove her internal mindset was focused
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: on death.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: You have to read the mind of the shooter. In
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: the fraction of a second, the gun goes off. That's...
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: That is incredibly difficult if the defendant claims it was
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: an accident or a warning shot.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Exactly why they include aggravated assault. Aggravated assault functions as
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: a lesser alternative charge that focuses heavily on the action
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: and the resulting trauma rather than the ultimate intent to kill.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: To prove aggravated assault, the state only has to prove
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: she had the intent to cause serious bodily injury. Given
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: that McCoy is permanently blind in one eye and requires
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: lifelong reconstructive surgery, the serious bodily injury is an undeniable
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: medical fact. If a jury gets into the deliberation room
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: and they can't quite agree on whether she wanted him
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: dead or just wanted to maim him, The aggravated assault
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: charge ensures she is still held accountable for the severe
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: violence she inflicted.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: So it operates as a legal safety net for the prosecution.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: If the jury balks at the high bar of attempted murder,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: they won't let her walk free. They will catch her
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: in the net of aggravated assault.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: A perfect description. But in this extraordinary case, the jury
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: did not need the safety net. They relied on what
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Judge Birmingham called a masterful presentation of circumstantial evidence.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: They didn't just look at the gun.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Exactly. They looked at the totality of the circumstances. They
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: looked at the specific location of the wound, a gunshot
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: directed centrally at the head. They looked at the extreme
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: vulnerability of the victim, a man completely defenseless, asleep in
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: his own bed. And they married that physical evidence to
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: the chilling finality of her words. Oh, so you're serious.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: The jury concluded that you do not shoot a sleeping
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: man in the face simply to injure him. The totality
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: of those actions proves a premeditated, specific intent to kill.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: And the speed of their decision reflects how airtight that
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: logic was. Because the jury deliberated for a mere two hours.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Two hours. That's essentially just eating lunch and taking a vote. Right.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Two hours to end the career and freedom of a
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: former judge. They found her guilty of both attempted murder
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: and aggravated assault. Wow.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Wow. Being led from her own arena in handcuffs is
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: one of the most profound symbols of a functioning democracy.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: It proves that the law, when administered correctly, operates blindly
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: and without deference to titles or power.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Which catapults us into the looming, incredibly tense question of punishment.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: The guilty verdict closed the chapter on what happened that
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: night in February. But the sentencing phase opens a complete
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Pandora's box regarding who Sonia McKnight actually is as a person.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: And it reveals a history of behavior that is genuinely shocking.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: The transition from the trial phase to the sentencing phase
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: is a complete shift in legal philosophy. The trial is
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: strictly confined to the facts of a specific night.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: But the sentencing phase pans the camera back to examine
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: the entirety of the defendant's character, their history, and what
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: penalty society demands to restore balance.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: And the penalty she is facing is astronomical. She is
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: looking at a minimum of 30 to 60 years behind bars,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: specifically at SCI Muncie, which is Pennsylvania's only state correctional
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: institution for women. To figure out exactly where the final
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: number lands within that massive window, the judge has to
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: weigh mitigating factors against aggravating factors.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Right. So mitigating factors are essentially arguments for mercy. They
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: are reasons the judge might lean toward the lighter end
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: of the sentence. For McKnight, Her primary and perhaps only
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: mitigating factor is her formal criminal record. Despite her age
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: and the severity of this crime, she did not have
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: any prior felony convictions on her record.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: But the aggravating factors, the arguments for the absolute maximum
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: punishment are a tidal wave. You have the premeditation, the
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: intimate betrayal, the horrific violence inflicted on a sleeping defenseless victim,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: the lifelong physical and psychological trauma McCoy will suffer, and
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: her calculated arrogant attempts to destroy evidence and lie to
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: homicide detectives.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: It's a massive list.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: But as if that wasn't enough, we have to look
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: at the history that the public only fully understood after
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: the arrest. Because her past is littered with so many
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: glaring red flags that you are left wondering how she
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: was ever allowed to put on a robe in the
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: first place.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: The revelation of her prior conduct off the bench is
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: deeply unsettling for anyone who believes in the rigorous vetting
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: of judicial candidates.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Let me just lay out this timeline because it defies belief.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: First of all, On the day she was arrested for
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: shooting McCoy in the face, she wasn't even actively serving
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: on the bench. She had already been suspended without pay. Why?
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Because of a massive misconduct scandal in 2020. She allegedly
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: used her authority as a judge to interfere in a
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: traffic stop involving her own son. Now, she was acquitted
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: of the criminal charges related to that interference, but the
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Judicial Oversight Committee of the District Conduct Board did not
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: let her off the hook.
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  Speaker 2: No, they didn't.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: They investigated her. and found she had violated seven different
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: rules of judicial conduct. She was ignoring civil complaints filed
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: against her regarding a massive personal loan she refused to pay.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: And perhaps most brazenly, she was found guilty of theft
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: of time, where she was allowing her court staff to
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: take unauthorized, undocumented extra vacation days, essentially paying her employees
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: with taxpayer money for time they didn't work.
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  Speaker 2: Those are not minor clerical errors. Those are profound ethical
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  Speaker 2: breaches that demonstrate a deeply ingrained belief that the rules
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  Speaker 2: she enforces upon others simply do not apply to her
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: or her inner circle. It shows a systemic rot in
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: her judicial philosophy.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: But it gets so much worse and so much more violent.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: In 2019, she was actively investigated by police for shooting
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: her estranged husband in the groin. Let me repeat that.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: She shot a previous partner in the groin.
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  Speaker 2: It's hard to even process.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: The prosecutors ultimately... declined to file criminal charges because they
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: ruled it was justified self-defense. Right. But I have to
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: stop the legal analysis for a second and just look
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: at the insanity of this pattern. She shot a partner
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: in 2019, stayed on the bench. She interfered in a
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: police investigation for her son in 2020, faced ethics violations.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: And then she shoots another partner in the head in 2024.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: It's a terrifying escalation.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: How does someone with this kind of chaotic, violent, ethically
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: compromised history continue to hold the power to judge the
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: citizens of Pennsylvania? And legally, when the judge sits down
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  Speaker 1: to hand out her 30- to 60-year sentence, are they
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: allowed to look at the groin shooting and the theft
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: of time and say, you have a pattern of destruction,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: I'm giving you the maximum?
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Your frustration mirrors the outrage of the community perfectly, and
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: it highlights the immense, often frustrating complexity of judicial discipline
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: and sentencing laws. To answer your legal question, we really
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: have to look at the strict rules governing the punishment phase.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Judge Birmingham used a fantastic analogy to explain this. He
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: said that if the state can prove prior official misconduct
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  Speaker 2: beyond a reasonable doubt, it enters the sentencing hearing like
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: a freight train to enhance the penalty.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Like a freight train. Just completely obliterating any argument the
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: defense makes for leniency or mercy.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Precisely. The theft of time, the confirmed ethical violations, the
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: ignoring of civil complaints, those were adjudicated by the conduct board.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: The sentencing judge will absolutely look at those and use
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: them to demonstrate a persistent, arrogant disregard for the law,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: which thoroughly justifies a harsher sentence. However, the legal system
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: is rigidly bound by its own rules of fairness. Because
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: she was officially acquitted of the criminal charges in the
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: 2020 traffic stop, and because the 2019 shooting of her
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: ex-husband was legally ruled justified self-defense by the state, those
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: specific violent acts likely cannot be used against her in
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: sentencing to prove a pattern of criminality.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: That is infuriating. She is literally sitting in court convicted
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: of shooting a partner. And the judge has to pretend
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: she didn't shoot a different partner five years ago because
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: of a technical ruling of self-defense.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: I know it is deeply frustrating to the public, but
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: it is an absolute cornerstone of a fair legal system.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: If you are acquitted by a jury or if an
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: action is ruled legally justified by the state, the state
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: cannot continuously dredge up that action to punish you in
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: future unrelated proceedings. The Constitution dictates that you cannot be
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: sentenced for crimes the state failed to prove you committed
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: in the past. To do so would erode the meaning
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: of an acquittal.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, I understand the constitutional necessity of it, but
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: the pattern is terrifying. And this extensive history of violent,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: ethically chaotic behavior forces us to ask a much broader,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: much more urgent systemic question.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: It really does.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: How did someone with this profile get on the bench
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: in the first place? And why wasn't the system able
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: to stop her before someone got shot in the head.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Which brings us to our final and perhaps most important exploration,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: the flaws in the robe and how we actually select
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: the people who hold our lives in their hands.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: This is the macro level takeaway from the McKnight case.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: It forces society to hold a mirror up to the
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: human element of the judiciary, and the reflection is not
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: always reassuring.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Because when you look at the actual requirements to become
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: a judge in America, they are shockingly bare bones. As
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Judge Birmingham pointed out in his interview, the requirements vary
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: by state, but largely judges are either politically appointed or
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: they run in local elections.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: In places like Texas, for example, the baseline requirement is
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: just being a licensed attorney for a few years, and
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: then you just have to win a popular vote.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: That's essentially it. There are no mandatory psychological evaluations. There
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: is no rigorous, deep-dive mental health screening required to assume
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: the power of life, death, bankruptcy, and freedom over thousands
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: of citizens. And... Judge Birmingham's reflection on this reality was sobering.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: He emphasized that judges are not omniscient. They are not
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: granted special moral armor when they put on the robe.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: They are just human beings, and they are susceptible to
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: the exact same errors in judgment, the same malice, the
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: same emotional instability. and the same hidden psychological traumas as
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: anyone else walking down the street. He noted that the
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: anger fellow judges feel when one of their own commits
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: a crime is profound because it instantly disparages the entire
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: institution they serve.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: I hear what he's saying, but I really have to
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: challenge this. They are just human beings. Defense. Yes, they
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: are human. But their power is superhuman. Think about how
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: this impacts you, the listener. Imagine you are in the
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: middle of a brutal custody battle for your children. Or
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: you are facing a lawsuit that could bankrupt your family.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Right, the stakes are so high.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Or you're just fighting an unjust traffic ticket. You walk
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: into that courtroom trusting the system. But what if the
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: person looking down at you from the bench is silently unraveling?
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: What if they are hiding a deeply unstable, violent psychological profile?
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Just like Sonia McKnight.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: It's a terrifying thought.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: If a judge holds that much destructive power over our lives,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: shouldn't they be subject to vastly higher psychological scrutiny than
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: just winning a local popularity contest? Why aren't there rigorous
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: mandatory mental health screenings for the judiciary before they take
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: the bench and every few years after?
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: It is a deeply complex systemic vulnerability, and your concern
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: highlights a fundamental unresolved tension in democratic societies. On one
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: side of the scale, we demand that the judiciary be
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: accountable to the public, which is why many states insist
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: on electing judges. We want the community to have a
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: direct voice in who interprets their laws.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Like democracy.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: But on the other side of the scale, a popular
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: election is a terrible mechanism for screening out narcissism, hidden
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: emotional volatility, or a lack of impulse control. A charismatic
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: psychopath with a great campaign slogan and strong political backing
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: can easily win a local election. Right.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Winning an election just proves you are good at politics,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: not that you possess the psychological stability to judge human behavior?
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Exactly. The uncomfortable truth is that the American justice system,
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: for all of its intricate checks and balances, operates almost
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: entirely on the assumption of good faith.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Assumption of good faith?
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Yes. It assumes that individuals who possess the discipline to
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: navigate law school, pass the grueling bar exam, and achieve
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: public office possess a baseline level of moral and psychological stability.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Implementing mandatory psychological evaluations sounds like a common sense solution,
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: but it raises incredibly thorny, dangerous questions. Who sets the
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: standard for being sane enough to judge? Who administers the test?
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, I see where this is going.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: And most dangerously, could a psychological evaluation process be weaponized
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: by politicians to remove judges who simply have unpopular but
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: legally sound judicial philosophies?
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: I see the trap. It could easily become a political weapon, like,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: We don't like how she rules on corporate tax laws,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: so let's claim she failed her psych evil and pull
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: her off the bench.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: It creates a massive risk to judicial independence. But the
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: devastating result of this hands-off, assumption-based approach is that when
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: a bad apple spoils when a judge like Sonia McKnight
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: engages in theft of time, ethical violations, and ultimately a
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: premeditated attempted murder, it doesn't just harm a single victim
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: on a cold night in February. No. It actively punishes.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: permanently degrades the public's trust in the institution of law itself.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: It creates a lingering toxic suspicion in the mind of
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: every citizen who walks through those heavy wooden courthouse doors.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: It completely shatters that illusion of order we talked about
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: at the very beginning of the show. It takes that beautiful,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: imposing architecture of the courtroom and reveals that the entire
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: foundation might just be resting on the unpredictable, unchecked emotions
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: of whoever happens to be wearing the robe that day.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: It forces society to confront the deeply uncomfortable reality that
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: justice is only as blind and only as fair as
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: the flawed, fragile human beings we elect to administer it.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Which brings us to the end of a truly heavy,
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: endlessly fascinating journey. We started this deep dive looking at
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: a seemingly ordinary, albeit highly uncomfortable, breakup and ex-girlfriend refusing
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: to accept a boundary, sitting on a couch in her pajamas.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: But we watched that everyday domestic tension escalate into a horrifying,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: calculated act of violence in the dead of night.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: We explored the sheer biological resilience of Michael McCoy fighting
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: for his life in the dark and how his raw,
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: traumatized pleas for survival in the back of an ambulance
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: became an unbreakable legal weapon through the excited utterance exceptions
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: to the hearsay rule.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: We analyzed the paradoxical, almost absurd arrogance of a legal
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: expert completely botching a criminal cover-up. I mean, trying to
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: flush evidence in a police station toilet. and how her
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: specialized forensic knowledge became the very proof of her consciousness
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: of guilt.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: And we examine the monumental logistical gymnastics the justice system
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: had to perform to prosecute one of its own fairly,
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: insulating the jury and the prosecutor to prevent the appearance
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: of impropriety, culminating in a swift conviction and a looming
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: sentence for a woman who spent her career handing down
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: those very sentences.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: It is a story that proves the legal system is
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: capable of holding anyone accountable for no matter how high
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: they sit on the bench. But it also exposes the
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: terrifying systemic gaps in how we select and monitor the
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: people who enforce our laws.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: As we close this deep dive, I want to leave
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: you with a final provocative thought, a question to mull
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: over the next time you see a courtroom trial in
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: the news, or find yourself sitting in a jury box
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: waiting for the judge to enter the room.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Let's hear it.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: If our entire system of justice relies implicitly on the
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: internal moral compass of the individuals wearing those black robes,
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: And if those individuals are just as prone to jealousy,
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: to rage, and to unimaginable violence as the very people
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: they are sentencing, what does that actually mean for the
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: concept of blind justice? Are we truly trusting the infallible
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: strength of the law, or are we all just crossing
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: our fingers and hoping we get a good human on
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: the bench?
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: It's a chilling thought to carry with you, because when
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: the person holding the gavel is the one who belongs
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: in handcuffs, you have to wonder who is really in
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: charge of the system. Thank you for joining us on
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: this deep dive. Keep questioning the structures of authority around you.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: Keep looking for the human truth behind the impressive titles.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: And we will catch you on the next one.