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LET'S TALK ABOUT IT WITH SHANETTE W JOHNSON |1ST & 3RD MONDAY 8PM EST · DA CREW Podcast

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  Speaker 2: Shennon W.
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  Speaker 10: Johnson on the mind, speaking truth today.
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  Speaker 1: For the herding and the healing.
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  Speaker 11: She makes away justice in the room, healing, in the line,
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  Speaker 11: purpose in the pain, every word a line, breaking, every silence,
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  Speaker 11: calling every name.
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  Speaker 7: When she said, let's talk about it, nothing stays the same.
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  Speaker 4: God, Let's talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: Bring it to life.
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  Speaker 12: Shinna W. Johnson steak it nine for the voice of.
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  Speaker 1: For the and her less, Let the.
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  Speaker 4: Heal be her her.
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  Speaker 10: Say first and third Monday, come sit for a while.
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  Speaker 4: Stories of courage, hoping every.
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  Speaker 12: Wrong, for convictions systems there divide.
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  Speaker 7: She stands with the people, walking by their side, from
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  Speaker 7: trauma to triumph, from silence to sound. She makes room
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  Speaker 7: for change where the truth is found, justus in.
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  Speaker 4: The room, healing, in the line.
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  Speaker 5: Purpose in the pain, every word.
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  Speaker 6: Alone, justin eving crank and.
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  Speaker 2: Gets a.
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  Speaker 1: W.
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  Speaker 4: John soul.
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  Speaker 2: He gets.
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  Speaker 1: For the voice, not the bosses falling on her.
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  Speaker 2: That's about.
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  Speaker 4: Let the heal be heard.
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  Speaker 7: Let the healing, Advocacy meets section, truth meets grave, everyone
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  Speaker 7: own it all.
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  Speaker 1: Get to save a please.
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  Speaker 7: The people have a pause, and the futures.
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  Speaker 2: And you.
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  Speaker 1: Well, hello, hello there, thank you for joining me for
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  Speaker 1: another episode of Let's Talk about it. I am your host,
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  Speaker 1: Shenett Johnson on today, We're just gonna talk. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what we're gonna talk about, but we just gonna talk.
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  Speaker 1: I have my camera off today because and not too
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  Speaker 1: long ago, got our work in our dose and Angela
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  Speaker 1: had to call me. So we're just want to talk.
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  Speaker 1: And last week, let's see, I believe it was a
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  Speaker 1: week ago, I flew in to Denver to see my husband,
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  Speaker 1: who is currently incarcerated on a roomful conviction that occurred
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  Speaker 1: seventeen years. July twenty firsts mark seventeen years that he
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  Speaker 1: has been incarcerated wrongfully. Even though we only being married
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  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty got married in twenty twenty two, I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't there the whole in the beginning. We didn't get
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  Speaker 1: reconnected until June of twenty twenty two. And ever since
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  Speaker 1: I was a child, I always had the passion for
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  Speaker 1: injustice right and wrong. You know, could nobody tell me
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  Speaker 1: nothing about someone in my family, a family member, because
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  Speaker 1: I was going to stand by them no matter what.
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  Speaker 1: That's how passionate, passionate it was for you know, it
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  Speaker 1: was for me. And then I graduated in eighty nine
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  Speaker 1: and I went to college and my major was criminal justice.
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  Speaker 1: That always been a part of my life. Even though
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  Speaker 1: I didn't finish criminal Justice, finished my course because you know,
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  Speaker 1: life happens, and I became a commercial driver. So fast
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  Speaker 1: forwarded until twenty twenty one when I've resigned from my
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  Speaker 1: job to care for my son. I was. I worked
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  Speaker 1: for Metro and I resigned from Metro to care for
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  Speaker 1: my son as he had congested heart failure. I was
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  Speaker 1: able to spend a year and some months with him.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know that he was gonna transition in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty three, and I thank God for allowing me to
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  Speaker 1: be able to spend the last year in a couple
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  Speaker 1: of months with him. And during that time, God has
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  Speaker 1: started setting putting people in my life and I didn't know.
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  Speaker 1: First he brung Wine back in my life and we started,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I started applicating on his behalf, you know,
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  Speaker 1: just reaching out to people. And then I've seen a
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  Speaker 1: Facebook posts and I answered it and it was nobody
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  Speaker 1: but Angela, and Angela invited me to come on her
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  Speaker 1: show in which was supposed to take place in November.
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  Speaker 1: I believe it was after Thanksgiving or a little before Thanksgiving,
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  Speaker 1: and little did I know November tenth, I will find
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  Speaker 1: my son on Responsive in his room. So instead of
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  Speaker 1: me canceling the show, I still went on that show
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  Speaker 1: and used my voice to bring awareness to what was
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  Speaker 1: going on in Why's case while yet I was preparing
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  Speaker 1: to lay my son to rest. After I laid my
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  Speaker 1: son to rest, Angela posted I seen another post for
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  Speaker 1: Angela looking for someone to fill a slot for podcasting,
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  Speaker 1: and I talked it over to one, talked it over
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  Speaker 1: with want and I said, you know, we need to
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  Speaker 1: get your information out there. We need to get the case,
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  Speaker 1: get your case out there, bring awareness to it. And
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  Speaker 1: we talked about it and we you know, I was
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  Speaker 1: going back and forth. Am I ready? Can I use
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  Speaker 1: my voice to bring awareness to injustice, to put it
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  Speaker 1: out there? Mainly just talk to him, just to get
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  Speaker 1: out his case. I didn't know that this, you know,
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  Speaker 1: this was going to cause me to keep going. His
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  Speaker 1: case would cause me to keep going speaking out. But
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  Speaker 1: November fifth, twenty twenty four, No, February fifth, twenty twenty fourth.
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  Speaker 1: It's the first time I did a podcast by myself,
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  Speaker 1: and I was so nervous, and to this day, I
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  Speaker 1: still get nervous and I remember stumbling over my words
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  Speaker 1: and trying to stay focused and everything. But Angela and
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  Speaker 1: the other ladies, they they, you know, they they cheered
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  Speaker 1: me on. They just motivated me to keep going, you know,
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  Speaker 1: just keep going, don't give up, don't give up. And
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  Speaker 1: so I got through that year speaking out, bringing talking
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  Speaker 1: to men from Denver, from California, from Texas. I met
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  Speaker 1: mister Legate Cornell. Oh my god, I met a Hope,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of men and formed a relationship with them.
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  Speaker 1: And they was like, Snett, we want you to speak
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  Speaker 1: out on our behalf. We believe in you, We believe
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  Speaker 1: in you. They believed in me, But guess what, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't believe in myself. I didn't believe that I can
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  Speaker 1: do it because I was stumbling over my words. I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't I knew, I knew I can do it, but
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  Speaker 1: it was just something that was inside of me that
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  Speaker 1: I was scared of, and that was failure. I I
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  Speaker 1: was afraid of failing that I couldn't get there, get
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  Speaker 1: their messages out there. I couldn't be the voice that
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  Speaker 1: they wanted me to be. And then I started letting
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  Speaker 1: a lot of stuff consume me, and I was gonna
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  Speaker 1: walk away because I wanted to have a powerful voice.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted my voice to be heard. I wanted their
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  Speaker 1: stories to live in people's minds when people go to sleep,
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  Speaker 1: or when they thinking about the role for conviction about
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  Speaker 1: these men, mister Legate, Earl Bryant, Wayn Johnson, Glenn Kemp,
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  Speaker 1: the list goes on when they think about them, their names.
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  Speaker 1: Just sit there and just ponder on you sitting in
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  Speaker 1: jail wrongfully because somebody said something that you did and
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  Speaker 1: you didn't. You miss birthdays, You miss birthdays, holidays, your
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  Speaker 1: parents passed away, your aunties passed aways, uncles, children's passing away,
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  Speaker 1: and you fighting for your life and nay depended on me.
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  Speaker 1: They they had so much confidence in me to get
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  Speaker 1: their messages out and they still do. They call me
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  Speaker 1: and they be like, come on, Sis, you gotta you
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  Speaker 1: gotta speak for Nobody else is going to speak for us.
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  Speaker 1: I was talking to Angela yesterday and when she talked,
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  Speaker 1: she has this powerful voice and she make you think,
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  Speaker 1: and I had to think. I had to sit there
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  Speaker 1: and I had to think. I had to reevaluate it,
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  Speaker 1: like what do I really want? What do I really
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  Speaker 1: want to do with let's talk about it. Do I
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  Speaker 1: want to be the voice. Do I want to fight,
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  Speaker 1: Do I want to keep going or what? And my
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  Speaker 1: answer is yes, I do want to keep going. I
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  Speaker 1: want to be that voice for the men and women
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  Speaker 1: that are currently incarcerated in prison wrongfully. I want their
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  Speaker 1: truth to be told. Currently we have in prison. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna give you the exact number. Bear with me one moment,
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  Speaker 1: let me get this together. Currently, it's an estimated. It's
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  Speaker 1: estimated that forty six thousand, two two hundred and thirty
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  Speaker 1: thousand men and women are in prison wrongfully and two
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  Speaker 1: percent to the ten percent of their convictions are era.
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  Speaker 1: Our air is and you are errors that people make.
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  Speaker 1: Some are in prison for identity, identity. Identity people say, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was that person. But thirty five or forty years
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  Speaker 1: down the line, it comes back, it wasn't that person.
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  Speaker 1: DNA done proved over and over that some of these
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  Speaker 1: men and women didn't commit the crime, didn't commit the
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  Speaker 1: crime that they're currently in prison for. But yet and
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  Speaker 1: still everybody go quiet. You don't wanna speak up on that.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody speak up on I'm not gonna say everybody. Let
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  Speaker 1: me rephrase that. People are I don't know if they're
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  Speaker 1: afraid to speak up all injustice or if they have,
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  Speaker 1: if they are, if they just don't care. Long is
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  Speaker 1: somebody's serving the time for someone that that. Uh let
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  Speaker 1: me get my words together. Uh, long as somebody is
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  Speaker 1: sitting in prison for that crime, don't nobody care? Just
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  Speaker 1: throw them away? Now we see see the men, well,
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  Speaker 1: the young men going to prison at an early age.
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  Speaker 1: I heard I believe it was a couple of months
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  Speaker 1: ago where one governor or I forgot his title, but
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  Speaker 1: he said that the ones that are in prison are
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  Speaker 1: getting older, so they can't do the work. So they
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  Speaker 1: taking the young ones in now to do the work.
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  Speaker 1: When I was in Denver, my husband he waxed the floors.
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  Speaker 1: They was having an audit where he's at. So they
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  Speaker 1: would ask him, hey, you want to do the floors?
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  Speaker 1: Can you wash the floor? Can you can you watch
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  Speaker 1: the floors? So he would scrape up all that old wax,
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  Speaker 1: and then they would come in him and another man
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  Speaker 1: would come in and they will wax the floor. Something
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  Speaker 1: that they can get thousands of dollars for mate, thousands
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  Speaker 1: of dollars for doing it their own self. But you
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  Speaker 1: know how much stay got paid? Nothing? Nothing, I seen
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  Speaker 1: them floors. The floors look like they paid somebody to
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  Speaker 1: come in there and do it. And they just didn't
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  Speaker 1: do one building. They had them do probably two buildings.
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  Speaker 1: And then they still asked them, They still told them,
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  Speaker 1: asked them can they do another building? All because they
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  Speaker 1: being audit so they getting free labor, free labor. You
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  Speaker 1: got men in there that's sick and they don't care.
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  Speaker 1: I had it's a man that's in there with my husband,
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  Speaker 1: a spider biddy and the first time it's set up infection.
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  Speaker 1: So they took him. They took him to a hospital.
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  Speaker 1: We understand protocol and everything that you know, for the safety.
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  Speaker 1: They can't tell the family what exact hospital they in,
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  Speaker 1: but they don't call the family either to let them
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  Speaker 1: know that they loved one is in the hospital and
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: that they fighting for their life or they had to
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: have surgery. Because he had to have surgery. And when
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  Speaker 1: he came back, he had a vacuum on his leg.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: They said his you know, the hole was big from
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: where they went down in there and they actually dug
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: too deep into his leg. He was there. I think
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  Speaker 1: he was back for like a week. Then he got
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  Speaker 1: sick again and they took him out and his sister
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  Speaker 1: didn't know that he was in the hospital until they
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  Speaker 1: called me and told me to get in contact with
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  Speaker 1: his sister to let him let the family know that
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  Speaker 1: he's in the hospital. Come to find out, they was
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  Speaker 1: thinking that the affection she came back in the leg,
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  Speaker 1: that the spider bity men. But it didn't. It came
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  Speaker 1: he had an infection in the other leg and that
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  Speaker 1: one almost took him out. It's so much stuff that's
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  Speaker 1: going on behind that wall, and I'm applicating. I'm talking
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  Speaker 1: to the ones that have loved ones that's currently incarcerated.
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  Speaker 1: Check on your family, check on them, let them know
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  Speaker 1: that you know you there. Some of the states have
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  Speaker 1: free calls. Colorado just they cause us free now, California
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  Speaker 1: calls being free. They on the tablets. You can just run.
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  Speaker 1: You can send them a message on the tablet, just hey,
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking about you. Hey, we want to know if
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  Speaker 1: you're still good or what. Check on them. That's all
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  Speaker 1: we have to do. Check on your loved ones. You
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  Speaker 1: don't know about the mental condition that's going about. The
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  Speaker 1: mental A lot of people say, yeah, they put theirselfs
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  Speaker 1: in there. Some of them did, some of them didn't
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  Speaker 1: the system put them in there because they wrongfully and
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  Speaker 1: they're fighting to get out. They fight, they have to
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  Speaker 1: fight to get out compared to someone that did actually
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  Speaker 1: did the crime. They get dates and they come home,
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  Speaker 1: and they go out and they refend it and go
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  Speaker 1: right back in. But you have men and women that's
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  Speaker 1: fighting to come home. Does just give me that one chance,
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  Speaker 1: and I will show you some of them are getting it,
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  Speaker 1: getting a chance after twenty and thirty years. Tomorrow, Rory
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  Speaker 1: Rory Atkins is finally getting release. And he been gone
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  Speaker 1: for I believe they said thirty thirty five to forty years.
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  Speaker 1: Thirty five or forty years tooken out of his life.
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  Speaker 1: I see Angela, Hey, Angela, thankstionate.
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  Speaker 13: So I was just looking at some stuff while you
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  Speaker 13: were coughing, and I looked up black males under thirty
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  Speaker 13: in prison and it just it just it's just mind bottling.
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  Speaker 1: It seems that.
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  Speaker 13: Of black male prisons and are in state and federal
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  Speaker 13: facilities are aged.
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  Speaker 2: Twenty nine or younger.
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  Speaker 13: It said based on recent overall prison population, this represent
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  Speaker 13: roughly eighty to ninety thousand individuals, and that is report
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  Speaker 13: from the Bureau of Justice Statistics from that, it says
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  Speaker 13: the US holds roughly one point two many people in
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  Speaker 13: state and federal prisons. Black inmates make up thirty two
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  Speaker 13: to thirty seven percent of total prison population. It says
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  Speaker 13: that rome for conviction, black individuals account for more than
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  Speaker 13: fifty three percent of all exonerations documented since nineteen eighty nine.
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  Speaker 13: It said Black America are seven times more likely to
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  Speaker 13: be wrongfully convicted of serious.
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  Speaker 2: Crime than white America.
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  Speaker 1: M And that's something they think about and everybody always say, well,
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  Speaker 1: let me go back. People always say that's no, that's
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  Speaker 1: not true, that race does not play a part of
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  Speaker 1: certain things. And it does.
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  Speaker 2: And that's just a few.
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  Speaker 13: It goes on to say the disparity by criminal by
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  Speaker 13: crime category. It's say the racial disparity and wrongful convictions
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  Speaker 13: are most heavily concentrated in three major types of cases.
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  Speaker 13: Number one drug drug cases. Innocent black people are nineteen
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  Speaker 13: times more likely to be wrongful convicted of a drug
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  Speaker 13: offense than white people, despite data showing both groups use
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  Speaker 13: illegal substance at a similar rate, and that is a
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  Speaker 13: statistic for the egal justice insenative. It says sexual assault,
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  Speaker 13: black individuals are eight times more likely to be falsely
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  Speaker 13: convicted of sexual assault. This is a largely driven by
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  Speaker 13: cross racial eye witness mystic identification, particularly involving white victims
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  Speaker 13: and black defendants. And this comes from the egal justice
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  Speaker 13: insentative as well.
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  Speaker 2: It says murder, Black.
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  Speaker 13: America are seven point five times more likely to be
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  Speaker 13: wrongfully convicted of murder if.
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  Speaker 2: The victim in the case is white.
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  Speaker 13: The risk of wrongful conviction for a black defendant escalates significant.
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  Speaker 13: And this comes from the death penalty information.
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  Speaker 2: And that's just the top three.
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  Speaker 13: And that really when people say that race does not
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  Speaker 13: play a part in it, and it's I'm gonna share this.
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  Speaker 2: With you too for our listeners, for those that are
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  Speaker 2: tuning in.
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  Speaker 13: It says the core drivers of wrong conviction, It's say
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  Speaker 13: several systematic phase contribute to the dispoorers this poor proportionate
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  Speaker 13: rate of Black America that are falsely convicted. The number
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  Speaker 13: one cause is official misconduct. That means either involving officers
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  Speaker 13: or prosecuting prosecutor misconduct that can be from evidence, coercion.
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  Speaker 13: It can be it can range from different things. The
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  Speaker 13: number two racial profiling. Black communities are often profile. It
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  Speaker 13: says black individuals at the very start of the legal pipeline.
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  Speaker 2: They are targeted.
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  Speaker 13: They are vigorously targeted policing and racial profiling within the
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  Speaker 13: black communities to create an artificial over presentation of Black
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  Speaker 13: individuals at the very start of the legal pipeline. And
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  Speaker 13: that comes from the ssr n E Library. It says,
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  Speaker 13: the lack of jury diversity, all white and non representative
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  Speaker 13: juries are statistically more likely to apply apply racial stereotypes,
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  Speaker 13: spend less time deliberating overlooking weaknesses and the prosecution evidence.
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  Speaker 13: And this is data from the Innocent Project and Channet.
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  Speaker 13: We just witnessed that with the Kamlo Anthony's case. We
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  Speaker 13: just witnessed that we just went one in number three
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  Speaker 13: and then the fourth one is plea bargain and pressure.
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  Speaker 13: It says, due to the high cash bill and systematic
• 34:15
  Speaker 13: disadvantage and pre trial detention, innocent defendants frequently accept plea
• 34:21
  Speaker 13: deals simply to escape immediate incarceration to secure a shorter sentence.
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  Speaker 2: Wow wow wow wow.
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  Speaker 13: It says, on an average, innocent Black people spend thirteen
• 34:40
  Speaker 13: point eight years wrongfully in prison before being cleared, which
• 34:45
  Speaker 13: is roughly forty five percent longer than the time served
• 34:50
  Speaker 13: by innocent white individuals. It says in murder cases, significant
• 34:55
  Speaker 13: black exoneries weight and average of three years longer to
• 35:01
  Speaker 13: be freed, and they make up fifty six percent of
• 35:06
  Speaker 13: all death row.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Exoneries in the United States. Wow, wow, wow, wow. You
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: know there's so many people. And before I'm gonna.
• 35:26
  Speaker 13: Say twenty twenty, I really didn't know that this was
• 35:31
  Speaker 13: such a big problem because I wasn't somebody that really
• 35:36
  Speaker 13: did a whole lot of research, and I was one
• 35:40
  Speaker 13: of those people. If it wasn't the effect that my family,
• 35:43
  Speaker 13: then you know, I wouldn't diving into it.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: But when I began to.
• 35:47
  Speaker 13: See that there were so many people just hearing these
• 35:51
  Speaker 13: people's story.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Like, my heart aches.
• 35:56
  Speaker 13: I just don't see how people can lie. And then
• 35:59
  Speaker 13: what we're seeing would the knowing wells cast. It's just
• 36:03
  Speaker 13: like people have no sense of they have no values,
• 36:09
  Speaker 13: they have no morals, they have no nothing. People are
• 36:12
  Speaker 13: willing to do anything to say themselves and not be
• 36:16
  Speaker 13: concerned about anyone else.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: And we see it play.
• 36:21
  Speaker 13: Out so often, and and and and these white people
• 36:27
  Speaker 13: will rally around each.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Other with the lie. We saw it in the Camello
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Anthony case.
• 36:33
  Speaker 13: We're seeing it play out in the Nolan Wells case,
• 36:36
  Speaker 13: and and and we see it happened in so many
• 36:39
  Speaker 13: other cases surrounding our black our black kids.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: And you know, also, you know you want since you've
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: brung that up, I wouldn't you know. I'll be trying
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: to wrap my mind around how can another black person
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: condemned Carmelo? How can how can you say, well, if
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: he didn't bring that to the track meet, or if
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: he would have just walked away, How many of you
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: guys are out there be honest with yourself is telling
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: your kids to walk away?
• 37:35
  Speaker 13: Well, you've seen what happened when when Cyrus walked away.
• 37:41
  Speaker 13: We see what happened when there's a young lady on
• 37:44
  Speaker 13: TikTok she taught her son and walk away. Her son
• 37:48
  Speaker 13: walked away and got murdered. When we walk away.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Things still happen. So when is enough gonna be enough?
• 37:55
  Speaker 13: Shouldn't by anytime something happened to our kids is always
• 38:00
  Speaker 13: a problem, And we're always in the room, no matter
• 38:03
  Speaker 13: what it looked like. I mean, the evidence is there.
• 38:07
  Speaker 13: We know that that that that something happened to Nolan
• 38:11
  Speaker 13: on the island.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: We know that that he didn't unlive hisself right.
• 38:18
  Speaker 13: Every so often we see that these people are unliving
• 38:22
  Speaker 13: theirselfs and we know that that's not something that we do.
• 38:27
  Speaker 13: But they're so quick to say that that they that
• 38:30
  Speaker 13: it's self inflicted, or that they they so quick to
• 38:34
  Speaker 13: say that it was an accidental drowning, or they're so
• 38:37
  Speaker 13: quick to say something that would clear everybody else involved.
• 38:45
  Speaker 13: Now they arrested hell that they arrested Carmelo on the spot,
• 38:53
  Speaker 13: and he told them that he was defending himself.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: Never was given a chance to.
• 38:58
  Speaker 13: Be to to investigate on the spot to see what
• 39:03
  Speaker 13: happened that they immediately arrested him. But these white boys
• 39:08
  Speaker 13: get a chance to come back from the island, they
• 39:12
  Speaker 13: get a chance to lawyer up. If I ain't did nothing,
• 39:16
  Speaker 13: why am I gonna lawyer up?
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you that happened to me. Let me
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: tell you something that happened to me.
• 39:21
  Speaker 13: When I was living in a landing, I dropped my
• 39:25
  Speaker 13: car off at a shot to get fixed. So the
• 39:30
  Speaker 13: guy told me that they were gonna keep my car.
• 39:35
  Speaker 13: I dropped it off on a Tuesday. He said I
• 39:37
  Speaker 13: could come pick it up on Friday. So I went
• 39:40
  Speaker 13: and picked my car on Friday. Saturday, I was at
• 39:45
  Speaker 13: work and I got a call from the East Point
• 39:49
  Speaker 13: Police Department telling me that I needed to come to
• 39:53
  Speaker 13: the police department, telling me that it was very that
• 40:00
  Speaker 13: I came to the police report the police department. So
• 40:04
  Speaker 13: I clopped out and I went to the police department.
• 40:07
  Speaker 13: They said that my car had been involved in a
• 40:11
  Speaker 13: armed robbery.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: And they needed to question I told them that when
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: did this happen?
• 40:22
  Speaker 13: And I told them that I don't own no weapons
• 40:26
  Speaker 13: and I had not been involved in no armed robbery.
• 40:30
  Speaker 13: I said that my car. I just picked my car
• 40:33
  Speaker 13: up from the shop yesterday at about three or four pm.
• 40:43
  Speaker 13: So I asked them, I said, well when was this robbery?
• 40:45
  Speaker 13: When was this robbery supposed to had happened? And they
• 40:51
  Speaker 13: told me when it supposed to have happened. I said,
• 40:53
  Speaker 13: I was probably at work when that happened, and I
• 40:57
  Speaker 13: can I can, I can prove that I was at
• 41:01
  Speaker 13: And I asked them, I said, well, are y'all arresting me?
• 41:05
  Speaker 13: They said no, we just needed to question you, but
• 41:08
  Speaker 13: just know that we may be bringing you back in
• 41:11
  Speaker 13: for more questions or whatever. I never heard from the
• 41:14
  Speaker 13: people aga answering that because I knew I had not
• 41:18
  Speaker 13: I knew that I had not done anything. I went
• 41:22
  Speaker 13: right back to work and I kept on along with
• 41:24
  Speaker 13: my life because I knew I hadn't done anything. I
• 41:28
  Speaker 13: was a college I'm playing basketball. What do I look
• 41:31
  Speaker 13: like robbing somebody? I'm in college at Morris Brown on
• 41:36
  Speaker 13: the basketball team. What I look like robbing somebody? Come
• 41:39
  Speaker 13: on now, I told them, God, I better do y'all research.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they just trying. They they just trying to get
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: a conviction. You know it's you mentioned norl What what's
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: that young man that they said? Rap? He wrapped it
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: himself up in a matt or? Are he felling the
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Matt Jackson and got no?
• 42:08
  Speaker 13: Peter Johnson from Valhoust to Georgia. Yeah, too impossible. And
• 42:17
  Speaker 13: then the suspect, one of the suspects, he snow went
• 42:21
  Speaker 13: on and committed another crime. They always gonna offend again.
• 42:27
  Speaker 13: But see these white tea people, all they want to
• 42:29
  Speaker 13: do is tack their kids on the back of white privilege.
• 42:32
  Speaker 13: But see what is happening is one of these kids
• 42:36
  Speaker 13: is a is a football supposedly football celebrity, supposedly gonna
• 42:43
  Speaker 13: be drafted to the NFL, and they don't want to
• 42:46
  Speaker 13: mess up his career.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: That's what that is all about. But he shouldn't have
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: made it. He shouldn't put his hand.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: If he was a black man, they wouldn't care. If
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: he played bast bsketball, did anything his his tail will
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: be locked right on up.
• 43:07
  Speaker 13: You see what happened to that young guy that was
• 43:10
  Speaker 13: where he was from. I forget the young guy's name,
• 43:13
  Speaker 13: but they died on him. And they said that he
• 43:16
  Speaker 13: was had been involved in an accident and that something
• 43:20
  Speaker 13: had happened and they gonna arrest him and he committed suicide.
• 43:26
  Speaker 13: And then right after he committed suicide, they said that.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: He didn't do it.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we got.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, ruin his football career. But that's what they do.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: They don't care about us.
• 43:46
  Speaker 13: But when it comes to them, you better believe they're
• 43:49
  Speaker 13: gonna rally around everybody in that state Mississippi.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: I was looking at the statistics as well.
• 43:56
  Speaker 13: Mississippi is one of the states that's on this thing.
• 44:01
  Speaker 13: That matter of fact, they are number one. They are
• 44:05
  Speaker 13: number one in role for convictions, and they are number one.
• 44:10
  Speaker 13: And and black men under twenty nine aged twenty.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Nine and under they are number one.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: HM.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: And see, we don't even we're not even.
• 44:24
  Speaker 13: Gonna talk about a lot of the stuff that has
• 44:26
  Speaker 13: been happening in that in that state concerning our people.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: What about that? Look, what was that little little boy
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: that was in foster care that was drowned and stabbed
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: like what three weeks ago?
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was in apartment South Carolina. That happened on.
• 44:50
  Speaker 13: July twenty and he had not been in that in
• 44:54
  Speaker 13: that house for twelve hours and that happened.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: So people need to be held account.
• 45:03
  Speaker 13: And they need to get justice for that baby.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: He was only thirteen years old, hadn't even haven't even
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: begin to live, no type of life.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: But you see that that's not all over the news media.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: That they only put out what they want us to
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: know and they hide everything else.
• 45:31
  Speaker 13: Now we all know that if it was a white person,
• 45:36
  Speaker 13: that it'll be all over the media. Anytime we are
• 45:40
  Speaker 13: we are the perpetrator, they're gonna put it out.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: But anytime we are the victims.
• 45:48
  Speaker 13: When we're the victim, they're not gonna put it out that.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: They're not gonna put it out.
• 45:53
  Speaker 13: They gonna they gonna try to suppress it, and they're
• 45:58
  Speaker 13: gonna try to put out the narratives. Because if if
• 46:03
  Speaker 13: I knew, I didn't do nothing, why would our lawyer up?
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Why why would I need a lawyer?
• 46:11
  Speaker 13: If you are innocent, the truth is gonna stand, yo,
• 46:16
  Speaker 13: then Donna know the truth to stand. It's too it's
• 46:21
  Speaker 13: too many, it's too many homes in these stories. But
• 46:27
  Speaker 13: these white people can sit on these patterns on TikTok
• 46:31
  Speaker 13: and they can say what they want to say, and
• 46:33
  Speaker 13: they always the first thing they want to say is
• 46:36
  Speaker 13: is it ain't about race? But we all know what
• 46:38
  Speaker 13: it is. And all these people on a found they're
• 46:41
  Speaker 13: not racist. And then we got these coons, We we
• 46:45
  Speaker 13: got the these black men that's married to these white women.
• 46:49
  Speaker 13: We got these these black women that that white white men,
• 46:53
  Speaker 13: and they want to act like this is not happening,
• 46:55
  Speaker 13: this is not real, that that that that there's no
• 46:59
  Speaker 13: such thing has white privilege, and that we can't that
• 47:02
  Speaker 13: we are racist. No, we can't be racist because we
• 47:05
  Speaker 13: have never oppressed nobody. We've never oppressed nobody, So where
• 47:12
  Speaker 13: where does that come in?
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: That's just, you know, that's in that's a figment of
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: their imagination.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: But I just want, I know, I know you have
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: to go get you some.
• 47:31
  Speaker 13: Rest, but before we go, I want you to pray
• 47:37
  Speaker 13: for the Kendred his brother passed on yesterday and his
• 47:42
  Speaker 13: mom is.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: It's sick. So we want to keep them lifted.
• 47:47
  Speaker 13: That's why I'm stressing to individuals out there to join
• 47:54
  Speaker 13: this anthology. They are not forgotten, because there's so many
• 47:58
  Speaker 13: people that are behind prison that sometimes feel forgotten because
• 48:03
  Speaker 13: they're losing loved ones and they feel like no one
• 48:06
  Speaker 13: is Therefore, you know, oftentimes I get so many messages,
• 48:10
  Speaker 13: I gave so many calls, and you know, yesterday it
• 48:13
  Speaker 13: hurt my heart to hear the Kendrick and he was
• 48:17
  Speaker 13: he said he giving up on God. I told him,
• 48:19
  Speaker 13: don't give up on God. I said, don't give up
• 48:22
  Speaker 13: on God. I said, because God ain't giving.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Up on you. So I talked to him.
• 48:27
  Speaker 13: I prayed with him, and I was telling him, I said,
• 48:30
  Speaker 13: you don't know what God is protecting you from on
• 48:32
  Speaker 13: the outside.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: And I said, you don't know what.
• 48:36
  Speaker 13: You don't know why he brought your brother home, because
• 48:40
  Speaker 13: God don't make no mistakes, and he would bring you
• 48:44
  Speaker 13: home before. He allowed you to go through some stuff.
• 48:47
  Speaker 13: And people don't understand that. People don't understand that because
• 48:53
  Speaker 13: a lot of people can't handle some of the things
• 48:55
  Speaker 13: that's getting ready to happen.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: On this earth.
• 49:02
  Speaker 13: So when he feels like he need to bring you
• 49:06
  Speaker 13: home to protect you, that's what he gonna do because
• 49:09
  Speaker 13: he don't make mistakes.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: He don't make mistakes.
• 49:13
  Speaker 13: But I want to encourage the listeners that are out
• 49:16
  Speaker 13: there that may have a word of encouragement, that just
• 49:18
  Speaker 13: may have something positive that they would like to share
• 49:21
  Speaker 13: with someone behind prison laws to join this anthology. To
• 49:26
  Speaker 13: allow the voice to speak, whether it's a poem, whether
• 49:28
  Speaker 13: it's a quote, whether it's a short message or story,
• 49:31
  Speaker 13: whatever it is that can encourage somebody, because you never
• 49:35
  Speaker 13: know what the next person is in need of and
• 49:37
  Speaker 13: what can help that next person to gather some hope
• 49:43
  Speaker 13: and to stay on this journey and to not give up,
• 49:45
  Speaker 13: and to let them know that they are not forgotten.
• 49:48
  Speaker 13: So I need a lot of people because I'm looking
• 49:53
  Speaker 13: for one hundred and thirty three voices, and it's based
• 49:56
  Speaker 13: on Hebrews thirteen and three with sayings that and I'm
• 50:01
  Speaker 13: paraphraser that that we are supposed to to think about
• 50:06
  Speaker 13: those that are behind prison walls, that we are supposed
• 50:09
  Speaker 13: to to be as if we were in bondage with
• 50:14
  Speaker 13: in in bundage with them, that we were bound behind
• 50:16
  Speaker 13: those walls too.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: So I encourage those.
• 50:21
  Speaker 13: That are out there there is a a thirteen dollars
• 50:26
  Speaker 13: and thirty three cent feet to be a part of
• 50:28
  Speaker 13: this anthology. Some of us waste that on coffee, some
• 50:32
  Speaker 13: of us waste that on on snacks every day, and
• 50:36
  Speaker 13: and and those that that that do other stuff, we
• 50:39
  Speaker 13: waste more than that.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: So I encourage you to put.
• 50:45
  Speaker 13: Down some of those habits and uh uh allow those
• 50:50
  Speaker 13: extra funds to empower somebody that's behind those prison walls
• 50:54
  Speaker 13: because you don't know that it it may save a life.
• 50:58
  Speaker 13: So that that's how I want to say, say, Shannett,
• 51:01
  Speaker 13: I'm gonna let you go ahead and finish up. And
• 51:06
  Speaker 13: again I thank you for pressing. I know it's a
• 51:10
  Speaker 13: struggle sometime for you, but I know the guys appreciate
• 51:17
  Speaker 13: you getting out here and constantly sharing and and and
• 51:21
  Speaker 13: talking about the injustice and bringing these things to life
• 51:24
  Speaker 13: so that people can be aware.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and that's my That was my main focus,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: because you know, sometimes I just feel like that I'm
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: not being heard. You know, what am I doing? What
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: am I not doing to get their messages out there?
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: You know? But when I talk to them they it's
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: just you doing good. Just just keep just keep doing it,
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Just keep putting our message out there. Just keep putting
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: it out there. Somebody finally gonna listen, somebody finally gonna
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: get a hold of it. And and you know, but
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: I tell you, it took me. That that made me
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: took me back. Was Carmelo Anthony. That that took me back.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: That that that took me down. But now I have
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: to say, okay, you know what we have. I have
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: to just come back. You know, no, this is not
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: gonna stand. We got to continuously fight for what's right.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: We got to save our young men. We have to
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: keep our people out of these prisons. We have to
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: keep them out. We have to find a solution. We
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: need to come together as one to find a solution.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: How to save our babies from prison. We have to.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: If we don't, we're gonna lose them. And they not
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: plan fair. They are handing down big time to our kids,
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: to our babies. They giving them, they stretching them out,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: and they using them to maintain the prisons, they the yard,
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: the dis using them, and they're not getting paid for it.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: And these men and women are some of them are
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: wrongfully convicted. Then another thing I want to this is
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: gonna be another thing I want to share with you guys.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: They you know, they know, you know, they have church
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: programming where the ministers, the different ministers can come inside
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: of the prisons and they can minister to them. Well, okay,
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: not only do they have the different religions, they still
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: have they have people that's in there that worship Satan,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Satan that does witchcraft and stuff, and they cannot say
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: the Department of Justice cannot do anything to stop them
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: because they feel that's part of their religion. That's what
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: that's their religion. The only thing they can't do, the
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: only thing that they can't do is someone like uh
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: whatever they call their priests or whatever, can't come into
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: the prison. But they can stay in they little they
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: little cells, or they can come. They can get together
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: and they can practice that. So you you got family
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: members that's in prison, you need to pray over them
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: constantly because they are they they are in the belly
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: of the beasts and you don't know what's going on,
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: what what kind of juju or whatever they're trying to
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: put on them. You got to constantly pray over them.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: When I found that out that could have That just
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: floored me that they do that. They are in there
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: in their own little room in the auditorium whatever wherever
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: they let them go, and they congregate, they come to
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: get together and they do their little worship ceremony with
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: the witchcraft in it, whatever they may in there. And
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: then you have the other men's that come in there
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: that may work out. You don't know what they done died.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: So I just wanted to say that. But I see
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: my my laptop is going down. I forgot to charge
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: it up. But I just want to say you guys,
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: please please check on your the men, your loved ones
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: that's currently incarcerated. Keep them lifted up in prayer, send
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: them a letter, let them know that you guys are
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: thinking of them. Reach out to you can reach out
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: to me, You can reach out to Angela pertaining the
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: anthology that Angela have. Remember, we want as many people
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: to come and join us and send us some positive thoughts,
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: encouraging words to them inside of this anthology and for
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: only thirteen thirty three thirteen thirty three, a small investment
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: and your words can be heard all over the world.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: You have some a man or a woman, that's depending
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: to hear your testimony. Your testimony. Remember you can catch
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: me on the first and third Monday of every month.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna make my commment now that nothing is going
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: to stop me from coming on here and getting their
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: stories out. I'm going to fight with them. I'm gonna
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: stand with them even when my voice gets shaky. I
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: love you guys. You guys, stay blessed, stay safe, and
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: stay preyed up until next time, be blessed.
• 58:47
  Speaker 6: What was captain at top can be? Let's talk about it,
• 59:00
  Speaker 6: Shana told.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: Me, your chancellor.
• 59:02
  Speaker 8: Speak interest for the parce vices for the unheard.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: That's talk.
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: Let the heel.
• 59:17
  Speaker 8: Be heard. Let really, let the heeling really. That's the truth.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: Really,