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Sunday Night CrossFit Talk - Talkin' Teams With Raph Durand · Clydesdale Media Podcast

• 0:28
  what is going on everybody
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  welcome to sunday sunday
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  sunday night crossfit talk
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  we are here live with a
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  four box tonight the screen
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  is full it's carolyn it's
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  jamie it's myself and the
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  special guest tonight raf
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  duran what's going on raf
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  hey I need a little head
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  cut out like you guys had I
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  should have like a super
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  You know what's really funny is,
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  and I hope there's enough
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  listeners here to hear the story.
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  In twenty twenty two,
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  we the original crew went
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  to the games and we brought
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  on special guests to be our
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  analysts at the CrossFit Games.
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  We had four.
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  Two of them are on the show tonight.
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  It was Raftoran, it was Carolyn Prevost,
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  it was Lex, and it was Mitch McClure.
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  And those were our four
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  special analysts for the
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  twenty twenty two CrossFit Games.
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  And we've reunited two of
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  them back tonight.
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  Yeah, I remember that.
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  I remember Gabby Magala had
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  been on the scene for a
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  little bit already,
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  and I think it was maybe
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  you or someone asked me a
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  question about Gabby.
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  And I did not know Gabby.
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  I was not familiar with her game.
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  And I shouted out some
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  answer all confident.
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  And I was so dead wrong about her.
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  And I still think about it to this day.
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  Every time I watch Gabby, I'm like,
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  there I was thinking that
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  she was like a specialist.
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  And she's the real deal.
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  She's so legit.
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  And I hope that we get to
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  see her back very soon from
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  her Achilles injury.
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  The two things I remember
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  most from that year are that...
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  It was the year that Boz
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  programmed the games.
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  And in the first couple days,
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  you guys were all like,
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  it is such a shame Carrie Pierce retired.
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  This would have been her games.
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  That was like the big topic
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  for the first two days.
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  And then the other thing was
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  you got your wisdom teeth
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  pulled during that games
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  and tried to come on the air after.
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  I don't remember that.
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  That's so funny.
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  It's not surprising that you
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  don't remember that.
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  It's hilarious.
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  Dude, wisdom teeth is,
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  I've had some surgeries, unfortunately,
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  and you know, they take good care of you.
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  You get in the waiting room afterwards,
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  you wake up in a nice hospital bed,
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  they give you a little food and crack,
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  like wisdom teeth is,
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  I woke up on the curb and was like,
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  they were like, get in the car.
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  I was like, what?
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  You know, very different experience.
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  Yeah,
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  I couldn't believe you even attempted.
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  Well,
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  before we get into the CrossFit stuff,
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  But before I jump in,
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  I have to do a shout out.
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  um I'm going to explain a
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  lot of this tomorrow on the
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  lunch show but for the most
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  part my second car we
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  finally got back from my
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  daughter it did not start
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  this weekend when my wife
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  needed it had to get a
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  mobile mechanic to come out
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  put a new battery in he
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  asked if he could record
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  himself doing it and I
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  asked him why and he said
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  because I am making a
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  youtube channel he has
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  fifty thousand subscribers
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  and he does how to's on car
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  mechanic stuff and his name
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  is is tag is semperfi
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  mechanic and he has
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  thousands of videos out
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  there for you to see he is
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  an awesome dude and uh go
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  check out his youtube
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  channel or if you're like
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  judy reed and you're in the
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  columbus area and you need
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  a mobile mechanic you can
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  call him up he shows up
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  right in your driveway and
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  he can do everything
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  everything on your car so
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  semper fi mechanics make
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  sure you check them out uh
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  huge shout out to him so um
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  jay birch says he needs to
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  do that yeah yeah starting
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  a youtube channel is easy
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  it's all the work yeah um
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  we got judy in the chat we
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  got craig we got kenneth we
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  got jody and we're gonna
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  jump into teams but
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  jamie just found out
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  something before we went on
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  the air so she's gonna talk
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  about it and we're gonna
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  talk about what this may
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  mean yeah um so I was
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  talking to uh another gym
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  owner last night and uh
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  talking about just I don't
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  know leveling up our gyms
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  and careers and stuff but
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  uh I was talking about joe
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  to gain and then he
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  informed me that joe sold eight one oh um
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  And I had no clue on that.
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  I don't, I mean,
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  I don't know how I missed that.
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  I try to follow all that stuff.
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  And also Andrew Charlesworth, who is the,
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  he was the owner of CrossFit Twaybor.
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  That was where Jordan Chefs came out of.
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  Remember her?
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  He sold his gyms.
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  He's still the affiliate rep
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  for the Midwest, but sold Twaybor.
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  So both the two like big
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  gyms around here losing their big dogs.
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  So Andrew Charlesworth and
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  Joda Gaines were both in my
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  first CrossFit L-One.
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  Yep.
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  Teaching not, not in it, taking it,
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  but actually teaching the course.
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  Right.
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  So that's crazy.
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  It is crazy.
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  I mean,
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  I think Joe's just going to be
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  focusing on being flow master, I guess.
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  I don't know.
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  Well, on an interesting note on Tuesday,
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  we have beat Shaw coming on
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  to talk about Metfix.
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  And I don't know if there's
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  a correlation with any of this,
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  but it'd be interesting to see.
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  That's the first thing that
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  came to my mind when you
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  were saying that was the Metfix stuff.
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  And Pete did a big, long,
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  I don't know if it was on
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  Twitter or if it was on,
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  what's the one that's
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  connected to the Instagram?
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  Threads.
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  Threads.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, I don't know if it was on that one,
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  but on like what the
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  difference between Metfix and CrossFit is,
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  like he went down a whole...
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  paragraph of things that he
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  called like or he was
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  explaining what the
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  difference is but I'm sure
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  he'll get to it on the show
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  on tuesday and then he is
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  their head of education yeah
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  met Fix's head of education.
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  He is a former seminar staff member,
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  former CrossFit Games athlete.
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  He is going to come explain
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  what the difference is.
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  And he made clear to me when
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  we were talking beforehand
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  that they are not a
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  competitor of CrossFit.
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  And he wants to kind of
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  clear that up and explain
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  who they are and what
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  they're trying to accomplish.
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  So check that out on Tuesday at two p.m.
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  Eastern time.
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  But yeah,
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  that's weird that like two
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  longstanding seminar staff
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  members who own gyms in
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  Michigan both sold recently.
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  But they're still affiliates though.
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  They just sold to other people?
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  I believe both are still
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  CrossFit affiliates.
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  Yes.
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  Crazy.
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  All right.
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  Well, with that,
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  that's just one of those
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  things to make you go, hmm.
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  Yeah.
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  And that's all we got on that.
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  So we're going to start
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  talking teams for people
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  who don't know Raph has
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  been on a CrossFit games team for now, uh,
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  three years in a row.
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  That's right.
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  Yeah.
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  And you are the Rhino dogs.
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  Yeah.
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  Camp Rhino, CrossFit dogs.
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  Got a lot of animals in our name.
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  Is that fiddle on the shirt?
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  They just write it for dogs.
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  We just say, yeah, no,
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  but does it fit on the CrossFit shirt?
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  I think they take out the dog's piece.
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  Okay.
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  The first year I went to the games,
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  we were, I was on NorCal CrossFit.
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  And, uh, here's Justin what's up, man.
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  Um, and we, we had enough,
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  we trained at an affiliate
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  because there was four
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  different crop NorCal
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  CrossFit gyms at the time.
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  And so we were NorCal
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  CrossFit Redwood City.
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  And that like the print is like very,
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  very small shirts.
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  And they wouldn't let us
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  just go to NorCal CrossFit
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  because we specifically
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  were at out of that affiliate.
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  So you have something unique
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  about your team this year.
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  Do you want to share with
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  the audience what is unique
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  about your team?
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  Yeah, I mean, it's pretty cool.
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  It wasn't obviously on purpose, but.
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  Um, yeah, all,
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  all of our athletes were
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  born in a different country.
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  So we represent the U S uh, Belarus,
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  France, and Israel.
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  Um, so it's a pretty, uh,
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  diverse international team,
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  but we all live here in the U S.
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  Um, Omer and I,
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  we train here in Las Vegas
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  with Justin and then Nikita
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  is returning to the team
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  this year from last year.
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  Um,
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  he recently moved from Belarus to the U
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  S and, um, Lena has been, uh,
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  a stud athlete on CrossFit
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  for dance team for a number of years.
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  So we, um, we coached her from,
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  from over there.
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  She's in Idaho, Boise, Idaho.
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  Are you the one that was
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  actually born in the U S?
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  No, so I was, yeah, well,
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  I guess I give it away, but yeah,
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  I was born in France.
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  So I was born in Southern France.
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  My whole father's side of
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  family still lives there.
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  And I,
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  but I came here when I was three
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  months old.
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  So I have dual citizenship.
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  Oh, cool.
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  When,
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  when they did like the country
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  national champions, I,
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  I became a French citizen very quickly.
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  But Willie George was taking
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  the crown there.
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  There was no question.
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  But I had a better shot at
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  that one than I did in the U.S.
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  I think we were discovering
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  everyone else's nationality
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  during that year.
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  And for some reason,
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  we knew everybody who had
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  dual citizenship all of a sudden.
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  Yeah, I was one of them.
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  And I hadn't been back to
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  France in like twenty years.
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  It's not somewhere that I go
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  at very often.
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  And I thought when I was going to go back,
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  they were going to like,
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  Not because of this CrossFit thing,
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  just in general,
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  because my French isn't
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  very good anymore.
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  And I can put on an accent,
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  but my vocabulary is just poor.
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  And I thought they were going to be like,
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  you're some Americanized Frenchman.
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  And they were so welcoming,
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  open arms to me.
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  So I love when I get the chance to go now.
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  So we brought you on to talk about teams.
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  You're very passionate about teams.
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  I know you wrote into Dave's
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  Weekend Review and begged
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  him to get on like a
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  podcast with you and Boz
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  and talk through this.
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  Well,
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  I thought this is the perfect
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  opportunity for me to reach out to Raf,
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  have him back on the show again.
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  So we're giving you,
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  you can talk about whatever
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  you want during this time,
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  but we do have notes.
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  So I'm going to first start
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  talking about this season.
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  So it seems like there's
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  been this effort to try to
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  fix the teams so that they
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  are more spectator-friendly, I might say.
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  But this year, we went all online.
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  And I think that was a horrible,
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  horrible decision.
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  I'd like to get your input on that.
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  Yeah, and...
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  It was disappointing for sure.
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  You know, even just two years ago,
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  we had forty teams at the CrossFit Games.
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  Last year was thirty.
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  This year is twenty.
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  I mean, like we're not going I mean,
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  I think that's OK if you
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  want to make it more elite at that level.
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  But it's half the field that it was.
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  Right.
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  So it's kind of the writings on the walls.
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  Is team going to be around for a while?
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  And then this kind of like
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  hey,
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  we're just going to do everything online.
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  Okay, not the end of the world.
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  I mean,
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  there was individuals that that
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  qualified that way this year, too.
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  But I think what was really
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  a mess was just like not
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  basically not checking videos.
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  I mean, there was a paycheck,
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  but I don't know how
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  thorough they were with that.
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  There were no penalties assessed.
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  It just D legitimizes it a little bit,
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  to be honest.
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  So that was, that was tough, I think,
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  for us,
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  because we take it very seriously.
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  I mean, I'm, you know,
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  I train as a basically a part time job.
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  And
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  to just kind of be like, hey,
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  you probably could have
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  just thrown in five random
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  scores that you didn't even
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  do and might have gotten away with it.
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  It just doesn't feel great.
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  You know, I think there was that,
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  like you always had like, well,
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  you could do that,
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  but then you get to
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  regionals and you look like
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  a clown or semifinals and
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  you look like a clown.
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  Now it's like, it's straight to the game.
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  So yeah,
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  I know CrossFit's probably trying
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  to do the most they can
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  with the limited resources that they have,
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  but yeah.
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  didn't feel like this was as
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  legitimate as previous years.
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  Ladies, any further thoughts on that?
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  No,
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  I completely I completely agree with
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  that.
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  I mean, we talked about it.
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  We talked about it with public videos,
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  everything just it does
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  completely delegitimize it.
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  I wholeheartedly agree.
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  And on top of that,
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  they did the first ever
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  online run outside.
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  which really just
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  highlighted the potential for cheating.
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  Right.
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  There was nothing to stop
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  you from going out of frame.
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  And there was no way for
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  them to check if you just
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  basically went out of frame
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  and waited for three
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  minutes and then came back
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  inside doing while you did
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  your eight hundred meter run.
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  But I think, you know,
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  I think there you know, I know Boz,
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  you can say, well,
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  don't you think there's
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  some decency left in the sport?
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  I think, yes, among us athletes,
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  there's respect among athletes.
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  And obviously, you know,
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  you want to make sure that
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  you're doing it and competing.
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  Like, that's why we do it.
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  But I think, you know, Angelo Jachico said,
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  like,
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  there's no eight hundred meter run
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  that everybody did that was the same.
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  So just even that was just.
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  It was tough.
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  Yeah,
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  I feel for four teams that were on
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  the bubble and that was
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  maybe the difference.
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  Carolyn made great points
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  about what if your gym is
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  in the basement and you
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  have to run up the stairs
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  to get outside to start your run,
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  or you're in New York city
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  and you're on the second floor, you know,
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  you've got to push the elevator,
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  wait for it to go.
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  Then you can go out on your run.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Like as much as running is
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  important in the sport, like in, uh,
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  in competition, there's no, uh,
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  like good way to do it
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  online unless you do a
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  shuttle run of some sort of
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  distance where you can
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  literally stay in frame the whole time.
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  But even when you do like
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  too long of a distance,
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  people can move the cone in
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  as you turn around.
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  Like even if it's just a few
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  feet over the course of
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  like a workout when, you know,
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  seconds are making a
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  difference between people
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  going to the games or not.
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  like it's gonna matter and
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  then the temperature
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  differences like there are
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  so many things about the
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  outdoor run that just
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  doesn't make sense in an
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  online format um I couldn't
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  believe when they did that
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  and then that they didn't
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  even look at any of the
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  videos for the team was
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  crazy I mean I wasn't
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  surprised but at the same
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  time I was like shocked by
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  it too well they were they
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  requested our run video but
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  that even then you can't
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  see or like we're not
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  required to film our run I'm not
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  we didn't have someone
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  available to run with us I
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  mean we're running fast you
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  know you need someone on a
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  bike essentially or
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  something so yeah it was
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  just like not plausible
• 15:53
  they the nice thing is they
• 15:55
  did let you do it in other
• 15:56
  affiliates you didn't have
• 15:57
  to do it out of the
• 15:58
  affiliate that you were
• 15:59
  registered in so if you did
• 16:00
  have a situation where
• 16:01
  you're a basement or second
• 16:02
  story um you could go so we
• 16:05
  actually went to a
• 16:05
  different affiliate to do
• 16:07
  ours because there was a
• 16:07
  flatter course that was
• 16:09
  also it was a lot easier to
• 16:11
  just go around the kind of the
• 16:12
  the shopping mall that it's in.
• 16:14
  So, um, but yeah, I mean, if you, you know,
• 16:18
  if you don't have a gym
• 16:19
  that's willing to host you or do all that,
• 16:21
  it was a logistical challenge.
• 16:23
  And then not only that,
• 16:25
  making sure that you have
• 16:25
  your L one judges that are
• 16:27
  going to travel to that
• 16:28
  location with you.
• 16:29
  So it, you know,
• 16:31
  it was for sure in a challenge.
• 16:33
  Um, and it put probably a lot of stress on,
• 16:36
  on gyms and athletes.
• 16:37
  So it's the pairing too.
• 16:39
  It's, it's putting it with,
• 16:42
  rings, a rig.
• 16:45
  If you pair it with a
• 16:46
  dumbbell or something that
• 16:48
  you can at least go and
• 16:49
  choose your terrain to run,
• 16:52
  that would have made a big
• 16:53
  difference for a lot of teams.
• 16:55
  The top teams, in my opinion,
• 16:57
  still made it through from
• 16:58
  the ones that I recognize anyways.
• 17:03
  It was their guinea pig type
• 17:05
  workout for you guys.
• 17:07
  I'm not sure that we'll see
• 17:08
  it on the individual side.
• 17:10
  I think there would be
• 17:12
  lot of cheating going on for
• 17:13
  that especially with more
• 17:14
  money on the line for
• 17:15
  individuals and game spot
• 17:17
  with like the prestigious
• 17:19
  factor of that but yeah
• 17:22
  it's uh to be determined
• 17:24
  how to really clean that
• 17:25
  part out we say the top
• 17:28
  teams made it in but one
• 17:29
  team missed out by one
• 17:30
  point right and any no rep
• 17:35
  ahead of them they're in
• 17:36
  they're in the games which
• 17:40
  really sucks for that team
• 17:42
  And they didn't review a single video.
• 17:43
  How many scores did you guys have?
• 17:45
  Four or five?
• 17:46
  We had five.
• 17:47
  They requested one video,
• 17:49
  but there were no penalties
• 17:51
  assessed from it.
• 17:52
  It was the run video that they requested.
• 17:53
  Did you guys have to submit
• 17:55
  any link to every single episode?
• 17:58
  No links were even required
• 17:59
  when you submitted your scores.
• 18:01
  Just your scores until you
• 18:03
  got asked one single video.
• 18:05
  Wow.
• 18:05
  That's crazy.
• 18:07
  Yeah.
• 18:08
  Yeah, and I don't know why.
• 18:09
  Why not make them public?
• 18:11
  Even if you're not going to review them,
• 18:13
  have the teams know that
• 18:14
  they're going to be held to
• 18:15
  the standard of public scrutiny.
• 18:18
  You don't want to be on
• 18:19
  Hiller because you did something.
• 18:21
  So at least it gets teams
• 18:23
  somewhat more legitimate or
• 18:26
  focused on watching their video.
• 18:28
  I mean,
• 18:28
  we redid a workout because we
• 18:30
  didn't feel good about our burpee reps.
• 18:33
  um and so we asked you know
• 18:34
  our judge the next time hey
• 18:35
  could you be a little bit
• 18:36
  more stringent with us on
• 18:38
  those um because it's hard
• 18:39
  when your team there's four
• 18:42
  you're one person and
• 18:43
  there's four of you it's so
• 18:46
  hard to be like hey guys
• 18:47
  let's do that rep again
• 18:48
  because I don't know if we
• 18:50
  were all at the same time
• 18:51
  like you need a judge who's
• 18:52
  going to hand out no reps
• 18:53
  and and you know like
• 18:55
  We try to get people who are
• 18:57
  going to do that,
• 18:58
  but there was one workout
• 19:00
  where it was three athletes
• 19:01
  have to be synchro, one athlete's resting,
• 19:03
  you're counting to like,
• 19:04
  seventy-five reps.
• 19:05
  I mean, the judge has so much to look at.
• 19:07
  What's the count?
• 19:08
  Make sure I don't lose track of that.
• 19:10
  Call the rep from a thruster.
• 19:12
  Is it below parallel?
• 19:13
  Is it locked out?
• 19:14
  Are all three athletes
• 19:16
  locked out at the same time overhead?
• 19:18
  And like, you know,
• 19:19
  and while you're counting,
• 19:20
  like it's it's like
• 19:21
  virtually impossible for
• 19:23
  one judge to be able to do
• 19:24
  all that stuff.
• 19:27
  Dex Hopkins, former team athlete as well.
• 19:30
  Everyone must buy a drone
• 19:31
  and a registration fee.
• 19:35
  You need a drone operator
• 19:36
  and then you need no flight
• 19:38
  zone or whatever, you know, wild,
• 19:41
  hilarious, though.
• 19:42
  Yeah.
• 19:42
  Yeah.
• 19:43
  Yeah.
• 19:43
  Not only two L one judges
• 19:45
  with the advanced judges course,
• 19:47
  but now a drone operator
• 19:49
  who knows what they're
• 19:49
  doing and can follow you on a run.
• 19:52
  How many people did you guys
• 19:53
  have that had their courses
• 19:55
  for the weekend for you
• 19:56
  guys to do all the workouts?
• 19:58
  Three.
• 19:59
  Um, I think we used three.
• 20:02
  We maybe had one as a one
• 20:04
  available as a backup.
• 20:06
  Um,
• 20:08
  yeah or yeah I'm pretty sure
• 20:09
  that's what we had but you
• 20:10
  know we needed two judges
• 20:13
  there were workouts where
• 20:14
  we needed two judges and a
• 20:15
  head judge that part was
• 20:17
  very strange and very
• 20:18
  challenging you know like
• 20:20
  basically had someone come
• 20:21
  on camera and be like I'm
• 20:22
  the head judge and then
• 20:24
  walked away for twenty minutes.
• 20:28
  You know,
• 20:28
  it was it was such a floor judge.
• 20:30
  They just literally needed
• 20:31
  to introduce themselves,
• 20:32
  have the requirements,
• 20:33
  and then they could
• 20:34
  literally go and coach
• 20:35
  their class and then come
• 20:37
  back at the end of the
• 20:37
  workout just to pretend
• 20:39
  that they were there like it.
• 20:41
  It was so dumb for me like
• 20:43
  that was such a hard thing to find.
• 20:45
  And I got like six people to
• 20:47
  have their certifications
• 20:49
  just so that I had options
• 20:51
  for the weekend.
• 20:52
  Just people are working.
• 20:55
  Father's Day for the last
• 20:58
  chance qualifier.
• 20:59
  And then the other one was
• 21:00
  just like a busy weekend as well.
• 21:01
  And it was so hard to find people,
• 21:04
  even if I had all these people ready.
• 21:07
  And after that,
• 21:08
  when I get them certified and, you know,
• 21:10
  they had their courses there,
• 21:12
  they just felt useless.
• 21:13
  Some of them.
• 21:13
  Yeah.
• 21:15
  Yeah.
• 21:15
  And you need them to be there for you.
• 21:18
  And you don't really know
• 21:19
  what the workouts are.
• 21:20
  So you don't really know
• 21:21
  what times you're going to go.
• 21:23
  You might have to retest.
• 21:24
  You might have to throw one
• 21:25
  in last minute.
• 21:25
  You kind of just need them on call.
• 21:27
  It's a lot of stress on them.
• 21:29
  I get CrossFit.
• 21:30
  I get what they're trying to do.
• 21:31
  They're trying to recruit
• 21:34
  more resources at the end
• 21:35
  of the day to help them.
• 21:36
  I think what they've kind of said is like,
• 21:38
  hey, we can't watch everybody's video,
• 21:40
  right?
• 21:41
  Like we need a better system.
• 21:42
  I think the public videos
• 21:43
  was a great step forward.
• 21:46
  I'm not so sure.
• 21:47
  I think they tried something this year.
• 21:49
  Maybe they can tweak it a little bit,
• 21:50
  but yeah,
• 21:52
  I fully agree with you on the
• 21:54
  challenges of it from an
• 21:55
  athlete perspective and
• 21:56
  just like the stress it puts on gyms,
• 22:00
  gym members often or gym coaches.
• 22:03
  Yeah.
• 22:03
  Like,
• 22:04
  I just wish I could film my video and
• 22:05
  post it like so that I could redo it.
• 22:08
  A lot of times when I do
• 22:09
  online qualifiers or whatnot,
• 22:10
  like I don't like to bother
• 22:11
  people and ask them to come at this time.
• 22:15
  Cause like I come right
• 22:16
  after work and most of the
• 22:17
  time I'm the only one
• 22:18
  working out at that time.
• 22:19
  I don't have to worry about
• 22:20
  getting a judge there.
• 22:21
  I just fill my stuff and
• 22:22
  then just submit my video always.
• 22:23
  Um, like that's always so much easier,
• 22:26
  right?
• 22:27
  Work for individuals.
• 22:28
  I think like there were,
• 22:30
  there were penalties handed
• 22:31
  out deservedly.
• 22:32
  So you got killer going out
• 22:34
  and calling out people and, you know,
• 22:37
  but it only works if you
• 22:37
  have the videos public.
• 22:39
  Yeah.
• 22:41
  So, Dex,
• 22:42
  I'm going to get to your big
• 22:44
  question in a little bit.
• 22:45
  But before I do that,
• 22:48
  you make it to the games.
• 22:50
  Is it a celebratory moment?
• 22:52
  Like, in the past, you've always been at,
• 22:54
  like, a semifinal where, like,
• 22:56
  you get your name announced,
• 22:57
  you get to hug each other,
• 22:59
  you get that joyous, like, woo-hoo.
• 23:02
  What was this like?
• 23:03
  Yeah, it was very anticlimactic.
• 23:09
  I've had every way that you
• 23:10
  could possibly qualify to
• 23:11
  the game to happen.
• 23:12
  I've been at regionals,
• 23:17
  waiting for your name to get called.
• 23:18
  That's the greatest one.
• 23:20
  Oh my God, we did it.
• 23:21
  It's that overjoy, the crowd's cheering.
• 23:25
  Doing that as a rookie is
• 23:27
  the best feeling because you feel like,
• 23:29
  wow, all this work that I've put in,
• 23:31
  I've now made it to the
• 23:32
  pinnacle of team competition at least.
• 23:36
  And then last year we
• 23:38
  qualified via failed drug
• 23:39
  test on another team.
• 23:40
  So we got notified about a
• 23:42
  month before the games that
• 23:43
  we were going.
• 23:44
  That was like a crazy morning, you know,
• 23:47
  kind of exciting, but at the same time,
• 23:49
  very different than like
• 23:50
  getting that moment on the floor,
• 23:51
  being on the podium.
• 23:53
  And then this year was, okay,
• 23:55
  look like we're in,
• 23:56
  but hold on until video
• 23:58
  review and then you get an email,
• 24:00
  you know?
• 24:00
  It's like, all right.
• 24:03
  Like, I think, you know, there was no,
• 24:04
  like, you want that moment,
• 24:06
  like that you cross the
• 24:07
  finish line and you're like,
• 24:09
  you get to have that celebration.
• 24:11
  I think every team missed
• 24:12
  out on that this year.
• 24:14
  So, you know.
• 24:15
  Too bad, especially for the rookies.
• 24:17
  Like, you know, my fourth year going,
• 24:18
  it's great to go back.
• 24:20
  But I wish they had that experience, too,
• 24:22
  to be able to have that
• 24:23
  celebratory moment.
• 24:24
  Because now, you know,
• 24:25
  they could just go to the
• 24:26
  games and it's the nerves all over again.
• 24:27
  Yeah,
• 24:30
  I think that's one of the parts from
• 24:33
  the semifinals that I miss
• 24:35
  is when they announce the team names.
• 24:37
  Like,
• 24:37
  I think the celebration for that is
• 24:39
  even bigger than the individuals.
• 24:42
  For the individuals,
• 24:43
  it's almost like a sense of relief.
• 24:45
  On the team,
• 24:46
  it's like because it's you
• 24:47
  four all for one trying to
• 24:50
  get this thing accomplished.
• 24:51
  When you get your name announced,
• 24:53
  it is like pure joy.
• 24:56
  There's such a difference of
• 24:57
  being on a team just in general.
• 25:00
  I've done both and never at
• 25:02
  the games as an individual,
• 25:04
  but at regionals,
• 25:06
  the corral experience is very different.
• 25:08
  You're there with your buddies.
• 25:09
  You're all like, hey,
• 25:10
  we're all going to go out there.
• 25:11
  This workout's going to hurt.
• 25:12
  We're all going to die for each other.
• 25:14
  there's like this less
• 25:16
  pressure of that than
• 25:18
  individual where like,
• 25:18
  I gotta make it hurt, it's gonna suck.
• 25:20
  Like Carolyn, I feel for you.
• 25:22
  But like,
• 25:23
  that's at least to me why I like
• 25:26
  team so much.
• 25:27
  I've never had moments of
• 25:29
  like lowest stress in competition,
• 25:31
  but also push myself way
• 25:33
  beyond probably what I
• 25:34
  would have pushed myself as
• 25:35
  an individual because
• 25:36
  you've got three people
• 25:37
  waiting for you sometimes
• 25:38
  and there's no feeling
• 25:40
  quite like that either.
• 25:41
  So that's why I like team.
• 25:44
  so we'll go to dex's big
• 25:45
  question which is the
• 25:47
  second half of our
• 25:48
  conversation and that is
• 25:51
  whoop not that one uh do we
• 25:56
  think team crossfit games
• 25:57
  is dying what do you guys think
• 26:05
  I think it is.
• 26:06
  But I just think it needs to
• 26:07
  get revamped again.
• 26:09
  We went so many years doing teams of six.
• 26:11
  Now we've gone so many years
• 26:12
  doing teams of four.
• 26:13
  I think a lot of people watch the teams,
• 26:16
  obviously, because of Rich.
• 26:17
  And then once he kind of retired,
• 26:21
  it's been a little bit more difficult.
• 26:24
  We had a few super teams continue on.
• 26:28
  But I don't know.
• 26:29
  It just seems to be missing something.
• 26:33
  I think it needs to –
• 26:35
  A new format of some sort,
• 26:36
  something more exciting.
• 26:38
  Um,
• 26:38
  not to the extent of like grid league
• 26:40
  where it's like so fast and
• 26:42
  totally specialists,
• 26:43
  but something I think
• 26:46
  similar to what we saw at
• 26:47
  the SoCal water Palooza,
• 26:48
  where you can maybe have
• 26:50
  more people on your team.
• 26:52
  Um,
• 26:52
  but you kind of put them in and out and
• 26:53
  you can only use them a certain amount of,
• 26:55
  like you have to use them a
• 26:56
  minimum of times on the
• 26:57
  floor throughout the whole weekend.
• 27:00
  Um,
• 27:01
  something like that I think could be
• 27:03
  interesting.
• 27:04
  And I think if you gave the
• 27:05
  opportunity to more
• 27:06
  athletes to be on a team,
• 27:08
  more people would be
• 27:10
  training for it and have
• 27:12
  like aspirations of going to the games.
• 27:14
  I think when you start
• 27:15
  cutting the teams too short,
• 27:18
  you lose a big,
• 27:19
  big amount of like a lot of
• 27:21
  people that train and have that goal,
• 27:23
  like when it's not really
• 27:24
  realistic anymore.
• 27:25
  So I think increasing the teams in numbers,
• 27:28
  but not necessarily the
• 27:29
  amount of athletes on the floor,
• 27:31
  if that makes sense.
• 27:34
  so that you just have more.
• 27:36
  Jamie?
• 27:38
  Yeah, I mean,
• 27:40
  I wouldn't say it's necessarily dying.
• 27:42
  I think it's being killed on
• 27:44
  CrossFit's side.
• 27:46
  I think exactly right.
• 27:48
  Like,
• 27:49
  It needs to be attainable to people.
• 27:51
  And team was kind of like
• 27:53
  the first place people started.
• 27:55
  And that taking away those
• 27:58
  opportunities is... It
• 28:01
  could hurt the entire sport.
• 28:02
  I mean,
• 28:03
  I think it will hurt the entire sport.
• 28:04
  I think just...
• 28:06
  we already say like how not
• 28:09
  having like that regional
• 28:10
  feel anymore is hurting
• 28:12
  attendance and getting rid
• 28:14
  of that is what is killing
• 28:16
  the sport in general.
• 28:17
  And those boxes go support
• 28:20
  their teammates.
• 28:21
  Like we need that.
• 28:22
  We need all those people.
• 28:25
  And to echo Jamie,
• 28:28
  I think that they were
• 28:29
  trying to kill it and they,
• 28:30
  and if they were paying
• 28:31
  attention this year,
• 28:33
  they learned that they're
• 28:34
  more important than they
• 28:35
  thought they were.
• 28:37
  For an in-person qualifying event,
• 28:40
  a semifinal or a regional,
• 28:42
  teams is a must to get butts in the seat.
• 28:46
  And you talk about Rich Froning.
• 28:48
  I have lived in Rich
• 28:49
  Froning's regional region
• 28:52
  my entire CrossFit life.
• 28:56
  Mayhem didn't get the
• 28:57
  loudest cheers all the time.
• 28:59
  Because some boxes brought
• 29:00
  more people than Mayhem
• 29:02
  brought to those regionals.
• 29:04
  And it was so loud and so
• 29:08
  fanatical over those teams.
• 29:11
  That's when it was awesome.
• 29:14
  And Dex was in that region.
• 29:16
  Dex lived that.
• 29:18
  Conjugate was a phenomenal team back then.
• 29:21
  You had CrossFit Grandview.
• 29:23
  You had all these teams that
• 29:25
  were fighting back then
• 29:26
  that they brought a slew of
• 29:28
  people to the regional
• 29:30
  event or the semifinal event,
• 29:32
  whatever it was.
• 29:35
  Yeah, when Rich did teams,
• 29:36
  more casual fans watched.
• 29:39
  But when the teams were out there,
• 29:41
  their affiliates came in
• 29:44
  droves to watch those
• 29:45
  people out on the floor.
• 29:47
  And it was louder than the individuals.
• 29:50
  And maybe I'm spoiled by the region I'm in,
• 29:54
  but that's the way it was.
• 29:57
  Yeah, that's my memory.
• 29:59
  They tried to kill it,
• 30:00
  but I think they learned this year,
• 30:03
  you have to have something
• 30:04
  on the line for the teams
• 30:05
  you have at these in-person events.
• 30:09
  Well,
• 30:09
  I don't think that they should put
• 30:10
  the teams in a different
• 30:12
  part of the year where now
• 30:13
  the individuals can do both.
• 30:15
  Because if it's all the
• 30:16
  individuals doing...
• 30:17
  if it's the individuals
• 30:19
  doing like both competitions,
• 30:22
  it just becomes less and
• 30:23
  less attainable for the
• 30:25
  regular folks doing that
• 30:27
  are enjoying the sport of CrossFit.
• 30:30
  And I think if you want to
• 30:31
  grow more people in the space,
• 30:34
  just having more opportunities for that,
• 30:36
  like those individuals are
• 30:38
  important in the affiliates.
• 30:40
  I think there's a time and
• 30:41
  place where the individuals
• 30:42
  go on a team like Wadapalooza and those,
• 30:44
  you know, one-off,
• 30:46
  major competitions out of
• 30:47
  season where that's the
• 30:48
  place where the individuals
• 30:49
  go team and it's fun and we
• 30:51
  don't get to see them
• 30:52
  compete on a team very
• 30:53
  often but I just think that
• 30:55
  the teams at the games and
• 30:58
  at these competitions is
• 30:59
  important for um people
• 31:01
  that will be buying tickets
• 31:02
  to go see them and just to
• 31:04
  have more athletes have
• 31:05
  opportunities to go to the
• 31:07
  games and experience that
• 31:08
  yeah I was I was thinking
• 31:12
  about taking it almost in a
• 31:12
  different direction I i
• 31:14
  I think,
• 31:14
  I think what works at a regional
• 31:16
  is having regional
• 31:17
  affiliates come together.
• 31:19
  And back then it was like, honestly,
• 31:20
  it was probably just like,
• 31:21
  most people were like,
• 31:22
  we were literally members
• 31:23
  of this gym and we all
• 31:25
  happened to be pretty good.
• 31:26
  And we put together a team and like,
• 31:27
  here we are at the regional.
• 31:29
  I think today you can still
• 31:31
  have that if the,
• 31:32
  if the semifinal field or
• 31:34
  in-person qualifying events
• 31:36
  are deep enough for that, like, thirty,
• 31:38
  forty teams, I think you can do that.
• 31:40
  Um,
• 31:41
  But at the games,
• 31:43
  especially if we're going
• 31:43
  to keep with twenty teams,
• 31:45
  you're not going to get people to travel.
• 31:48
  As much as we're trying to
• 31:50
  stay connected to our gym,
• 31:52
  a lot of them aren't going
• 31:53
  to travel to Albany.
• 31:55
  Some of them will.
• 31:56
  A lot of them came to Fort Worth.
• 31:58
  But I think it's different at the games.
• 32:02
  I think at the games,
• 32:03
  you need the superstars.
• 32:06
  people watch it because they're rich,
• 32:07
  right?
• 32:07
  And that was very true for a long time.
• 32:09
  And I mentioned last week, I mean,
• 32:11
  like you look at the star
• 32:13
  power that we lost on team
• 32:14
  from just this year and last year,
• 32:15
  like Noah Chandler, Cara Saunders.
• 32:19
  I don't know if Royce is
• 32:20
  competing again this year.
• 32:21
  Con Porter, James Newberry,
• 32:22
  that whole team gone.
• 32:24
  You know, like we lost Jamie Green,
• 32:26
  like Elliot Simmons.
• 32:29
  We lost a lot of individual
• 32:32
  stars that people would recognize.
• 32:33
  And I think
• 32:35
  what people want to watch
• 32:36
  they want to watch people
• 32:37
  that they recognize I
• 32:38
  almost say like let's open
• 32:39
  up super teams again like
• 32:41
  it's not great for me
• 32:43
  because like it makes the
• 32:44
  field more competitive but
• 32:46
  I think if you want to get
• 32:46
  people to watch team it's
• 32:48
  kind of something that you
• 32:49
  can do after your
• 32:50
  individual career is kind
• 32:51
  of coming to an end or
• 32:52
  wrapping up that you can
• 32:53
  just say hey I'll go on a
• 32:55
  team I don't have to travel
• 32:56
  and I just have to do you
• 32:57
  know semis somewhere or
• 32:59
  something like that I think
• 33:01
  that would get more
• 33:02
  athletes involved and
• 33:02
  you'll get more people
• 33:04
  watching team because it's like, oh, cool.
• 33:06
  I know this athlete from
• 33:07
  their individual and
• 33:08
  they're also competing at
• 33:10
  the games on a team.
• 33:11
  I would also not call it the
• 33:12
  affiliate cup.
• 33:15
  I think I had an idea.
• 33:17
  Rebrand community cup to affiliate cup.
• 33:22
  Have the affiliate cup
• 33:23
  actually go to an affiliate
• 33:25
  and have it be
• 33:26
  participatory and
• 33:27
  performance based somehow.
• 33:30
  And then make the team
• 33:31
  professionalize the team
• 33:32
  competition at the games.
• 33:33
  This is elite teams.
• 33:34
  It's not affiliate because
• 33:36
  I'm part of the camper.
• 33:37
  I know CrossFit gym,
• 33:38
  but I don't take classes there.
• 33:39
  Like I train there as a
• 33:41
  professional athlete, you know, anyway,
• 33:43
  that's my idea.
• 33:49
  I like that.
• 33:50
  I'm kicking super teams ass
• 33:51
  on an ARP team was sick though.
• 33:53
  Heck yeah, it was.
• 33:58
  All right,
• 33:59
  it's been at the course of
• 33:59
  twenty seventeen CrossFit Games or Run,
• 34:02
  Swim, Run.
• 34:02
  I remember just swimming and being like,
• 34:04
  I'm just trying to find
• 34:05
  Rich Froning's half balding head,
• 34:08
  like I'm just picking off
• 34:09
  people and I have no better
• 34:11
  feeling than than than
• 34:13
  trying to track down those guys for sure.
• 34:15
  It's fun.
• 34:18
  do agree with you at the
• 34:18
  games you need to have the
• 34:19
  star power but I do think
• 34:22
  there was something magical
• 34:23
  about the regional level
• 34:25
  but and we went away from
• 34:26
  that with semifinals for a
• 34:27
  few years so that it lost
• 34:29
  its luster there too um
• 34:32
  we'd have to go back to a
• 34:33
  regional style semi-final
• 34:36
  for it to work but I also
• 34:38
  think that at the games
• 34:40
  there are too many people
• 34:41
  on the floor at a time sometimes
• 34:44
  And I don't know if it needs
• 34:45
  to be a shift in programming,
• 34:46
  a shift in rules,
• 34:48
  but there are times where
• 34:49
  it gets so cluttered on the
• 34:52
  floor that you can't tell the story.
• 34:56
  Right?
• 34:58
  I get the need for like a
• 35:02
  worm type apparatus.
• 35:05
  I like the earthworm
• 35:06
  personally above the worm.
• 35:09
  I think it is more
• 35:09
  devastating and it
• 35:11
  penalizes people for
• 35:12
  mistakes much quicker.
• 35:15
  And it's way more fun to
• 35:16
  watch as a spectator
• 35:17
  because you get some hellacious drops.
• 35:22
  But there's too much like
• 35:25
  clutter on the floor,
• 35:26
  especially like four-person
• 35:28
  burpees and stuff like that.
• 35:31
  I wish there was a way
• 35:33
  either you go five teams
• 35:35
  per heat or you diminish
• 35:38
  how many people go out at a
• 35:40
  time and change the programming.
• 35:41
  And maybe it's a combination
• 35:42
  of a little bit of this,
• 35:43
  a little bit of that.
• 35:44
  Yeah.
• 35:47
  I agree.
• 35:47
  I really liked that.
• 35:48
  There was a show called physical.
• 35:49
  One hundred is on Netflix
• 35:51
  and they did this one team
• 35:52
  event where they pushed like this huge,
• 35:55
  it was, you know, a prop,
• 35:57
  but it was a huge boat and
• 35:58
  they had to like load weight onto it.
• 36:00
  They had to roll it over logs.
• 36:01
  And at the end they had to
• 36:02
  do like a rope pole,
• 36:03
  basically like a twenty
• 36:04
  percent CrossFit event.
• 36:06
  But it looked devastating.
• 36:08
  Like they would all go three
• 36:09
  to one push and the boat
• 36:10
  would move literally like an inch.
• 36:12
  At least that's how they
• 36:13
  showed it on the storytelling.
• 36:15
  it was like that's cool and
• 36:17
  I think what you said about
• 36:17
  the earthworm is what makes
• 36:19
  teams very relatable it's
• 36:22
  when you see people
• 36:22
  struggle with something
• 36:23
  you're like oh that's hard
• 36:26
  right like I think if we
• 36:26
  come to the point with the
• 36:27
  regular worm now we're like
• 36:29
  all teams are really
• 36:29
  efficient with it we don't
• 36:31
  really make it look hard
• 36:31
  it's hard I'm like let me
• 36:33
  tell you it sucks but like
• 36:35
  the earthworm was like this
• 36:36
  whole new thing where we were just like
• 36:39
  what do we do with this, you know?
• 36:40
  And I think people struggle.
• 36:42
  And I think that's really
• 36:42
  fun as a spectator to watch
• 36:44
  people struggle.
• 36:45
  So we need something like
• 36:46
  that physical one hundred,
• 36:47
  like push this thing over there.
• 36:50
  And by the way,
• 36:50
  it's going to take you
• 36:51
  thirty minutes like and
• 36:52
  like it's one hundred feet, you know,
• 36:54
  something like that.
• 36:55
  I think like a gator and D-balls.
• 36:58
  Yeah.
• 36:59
  No, no, no, not that.
• 37:01
  Not that idea.
• 37:02
  Clearly,
• 37:03
  we'll just have one boat and one
• 37:05
  at a time teams will push it.
• 37:08
  Yeah,
• 37:08
  so one of my favorite events ever in
• 37:12
  the teams was when they had
• 37:13
  to push the snail and then
• 37:15
  do burpees over the snail.
• 37:17
  Yeah.
• 37:18
  Like that was,
• 37:20
  it was the most exhilarating
• 37:22
  slow motion event ever at the games.
• 37:27
  Because Rich Mayhem and, was it Invictus?
• 37:32
  We're like side by side,
• 37:33
  like really close going to the end.
• 37:35
  And that thing moves so slow
• 37:37
  that like you're holding
• 37:39
  your breath for longer than
• 37:41
  a normal event.
• 37:41
  It was just, it was fascinating.
• 37:43
  And that would be a similar
• 37:45
  type push burpee over kind of thing.
• 37:52
  Yeah.
• 37:53
  I like it.
• 37:53
  Road played with like even a
• 37:54
  tug of war one year with teams.
• 37:55
  It's very different.
• 37:58
  I was there for that.
• 37:59
  That was not fun to watch.
• 38:01
  Yeah.
• 38:02
  That was kind of a cluster.
• 38:04
  I think people,
• 38:04
  it's like that idea of like,
• 38:06
  can you do some, like,
• 38:07
  cause you're talking about like,
• 38:08
  it's the mayhem versus Invictus.
• 38:09
  Can you do some sort of head
• 38:11
  to head with team?
• 38:13
  Again, it's not going to be super fair.
• 38:14
  It's going to be a little bit more,
• 38:16
  less traditional,
• 38:18
  but there's probably ideas
• 38:19
  that we can throw into the
• 38:20
  hopper that could make team
• 38:23
  different or more exciting.
• 38:25
  Yeah.
• 38:27
  and I love what carolyn
• 38:28
  brought up I think that if
• 38:29
  you had six people and you
• 38:33
  only got to start four per
• 38:35
  event and then those four
• 38:37
  had to do the whole event
• 38:38
  no subs during an event but
• 38:41
  it also if you got an
• 38:42
  injury you'd have like two
• 38:44
  replacements so you're not
• 38:45
  just out of the games
• 38:46
  because someone got hurt so
• 38:49
  I think that like cures two issues um
• 38:56
  Any other ideas, guys?
• 38:58
  Yeah, I just think that they should, like,
• 38:59
  if you're going to have a
• 39:00
  certain amount of people on the team,
• 39:01
  they have to actually be on
• 39:02
  the floor for a minimum of, I don't know,
• 39:04
  two events.
• 39:05
  Let's say there's eight events,
• 39:07
  minimum of two events.
• 39:08
  So once the workouts are out,
• 39:10
  you get to pick and maybe
• 39:10
  some of them aren't released yet.
• 39:12
  And it's like,
• 39:12
  you've already used that player.
• 39:14
  And there's, that could be cool.
• 39:20
  Daniel Church says they
• 39:21
  overcomplicated a lot of the events,
• 39:23
  which muddied the competition floor.
• 39:27
  Yeah.
• 39:30
  We've tried to like apply
• 39:31
  individual CrossFit to teams sometimes.
• 39:34
  And I think sometimes it's
• 39:35
  like we have to rethink of like,
• 39:37
  what can I get four people
• 39:39
  to do rather than like,
• 39:41
  how can four people do what
• 39:42
  one person does?
• 39:43
  It's like,
• 39:44
  what else can you do with four people?
• 39:45
  There's so much more.
• 39:47
  available, right?
• 39:48
  There was like one year at the games,
• 39:50
  I thought it was kind of cool.
• 39:51
  They had the hand that you
• 39:52
  had to like carry your
• 39:53
  handstand push up wall across the field.
• 39:56
  And like,
• 39:57
  people would kick up and like do
• 39:58
  handstand pushers while
• 39:59
  you're like holding wall
• 40:00
  kind of gimmicky.
• 40:01
  But like those kinds of ideas,
• 40:02
  I think bringing those back of like,
• 40:04
  you can't do that as an individual,
• 40:06
  probably there's safety concerns.
• 40:07
  And I'm probably not
• 40:08
  thinking about a ton of things.
• 40:09
  But I think like also having like,
• 40:13
  consistency of teams over years, like
• 40:16
  let brands come into the space.
• 40:18
  Let there be a Nike team.
• 40:19
  Let there be a Team Yeti.
• 40:21
  Like,
• 40:22
  why not let them put their money
• 40:24
  behind it and recruit, okay, Chandler,
• 40:27
  Noah, you're Team Roka now.
• 40:28
  Get your two girls.
• 40:29
  And then year over year,
• 40:31
  Team Roka becomes a name.
• 40:33
  And the sponsors love it
• 40:34
  because they get brand
• 40:36
  recognition at the games
• 40:38
  and they can put money behind it.
• 40:40
  So that's what I would do.
• 40:41
  And again, that's why I'm kind of like,
• 40:43
  leaning away from the
• 40:44
  affiliate and people might not like that,
• 40:45
  that it's about giving back
• 40:47
  to the affiliates.
• 40:48
  But I think you bring more money into it.
• 40:51
  More athletes will do it.
• 40:53
  More people will watch it because of that.
• 40:55
  At least that's my thought.
• 40:57
  So I started watching Drive
• 41:00
  to Survive this weekend for
• 41:02
  its first season.
• 41:04
  That's exactly what that is.
• 41:05
  You have like...
• 41:06
  you have the McLaren team
• 41:07
  and you have the Red Bull
• 41:08
  team and you have the,
• 41:10
  so you're saying like those
• 41:11
  teams will recruit their
• 41:12
  players and then you would
• 41:15
  have consistency.
• 41:16
  I kind of, if you can't,
• 41:19
  if you can't rebuild what
• 41:20
  the affiliate was at the regional level,
• 41:24
  I think that that's
• 41:25
  probably your next best
• 41:26
  option because then you can,
• 41:29
  you get the same team year
• 41:30
  over year and then you have
• 41:34
  like somebody to root for.
• 41:36
  It becomes like a league.
• 41:38
  You've got your sports teams,
• 41:39
  but it's your main sponsors.
• 41:41
  And then if there's a new
• 41:42
  team that has enough money
• 41:43
  and they want to get added,
• 41:45
  and then Instagram becomes
• 41:47
  basically your tryouts
• 41:50
  because they can recruit
• 41:50
  people based on what they see online.
• 41:54
  Yeah, I actually like that idea.
• 41:57
  Let's say you have a certain
• 41:59
  amount of teams, a league to start,
• 42:01
  and it's consistency over the year.
• 42:05
  Yeah, I think that's a good idea.
• 42:10
  Yeah.
• 42:10
  Yeah, I like that one a lot.
• 42:11
  It's definitely something I
• 42:12
  think that should be at
• 42:14
  least thrown up on a board
• 42:16
  and talked about.
• 42:19
  And it could bring more
• 42:20
  sponsors overall to the space in general.
• 42:24
  Right?
• 42:24
  Because they want it to
• 42:25
  succeed because they want
• 42:27
  their team to have a place to go.
• 42:31
  You know?
• 42:34
  And you could get those
• 42:35
  non-endemic brands to support a team.
• 42:42
  Yeah, that'd be pretty cool.
• 42:46
  So do you think we'd ever go
• 42:49
  to a smaller team, like two person?
• 42:54
  I know CrossFit's doing a
• 42:55
  pairs competition this year.
• 42:58
  That might be the trial.
• 43:01
  Is that during the age group?
• 43:04
  It's at MFC.
• 43:05
  Oh.
• 43:09
  So Masters Fitness
• 43:10
  Championship is doing pairs.
• 43:13
  Correct.
• 43:18
  It'll be more like individual, right?
• 43:20
  It'll be different.
• 43:23
  And for that reason,
• 43:24
  it'll be probably harder, right?
• 43:25
  You can hide sometimes on teams.
• 43:30
  I think it has validity.
• 43:33
  It's more pairs.
• 43:34
  I don't know.
• 43:35
  High Rocks, they have it all, right?
• 43:36
  They have
• 43:38
  singles, doubles, mixed doubles.
• 43:41
  They've got teams.
• 43:42
  Four-person team.
• 43:43
  Yeah.
• 43:45
  Yeah.
• 43:51
  Or does it go to the
• 43:52
  three-person same sex like
• 43:56
  they do at Wadapalooza?
• 43:57
  I don't know.
• 44:00
  I mean, I like the mixed teams,
• 44:04
  but I can see programming-wise...
• 44:08
  a benefit maybe to having all
• 44:13
  I think the only thing with,
• 44:14
  with like pairs is like it,
• 44:16
  you get into that same,
• 44:17
  you gotta like a male, male pair, female,
• 44:19
  female pair, female pair.
• 44:20
  So now you've got three
• 44:21
  different categories.
• 44:22
  You just like triple.
• 44:24
  Yeah.
• 44:24
  Categories that you have
• 44:25
  just becomes less easy to
• 44:26
  follow where like one of
• 44:27
  the beautiful things of CrossFit men,
• 44:30
  women, no age groups or, or, you know,
• 44:32
  I know there are age groups,
• 44:33
  there's no weight classes, you know,
• 44:35
  like it's teams, two guys, two girls.
• 44:37
  Right.
• 44:37
  That's it.
• 44:38
  So I,
• 44:38
  I do like that simplicity of it
• 44:40
  personally.
• 44:41
  Okay.
• 44:43
  Yeah,
• 44:44
  I think a minor tweak of going three guys,
• 44:45
  three girls,
• 44:46
  and you have to start four
• 44:48
  for every event.
• 44:50
  And if you want to be like
• 44:50
  Jamie and say like,
• 44:52
  but no person can do more than.
• 44:54
  Eighty percent of the workouts.
• 44:57
  So everybody has to.
• 44:59
  Nobody can hide.
• 45:03
  That's cool, too.
• 45:08
  Yeah.
• 45:08
  Definitely.
• 45:09
  Well, I think we've thrown out a lot.
• 45:12
  You excited to go to Albany?
• 45:14
  Hell yeah.
• 45:15
  Yeah, I'm stoked.
• 45:18
  I think it's going to be fun, you know,
• 45:19
  no matter what.
• 45:20
  It's the games.
• 45:21
  So, you know,
• 45:22
  hopefully we get to do some
• 45:23
  things that we wouldn't
• 45:24
  just do in our normal home
• 45:25
  gym and be some folks
• 45:28
  watching us having a good time.
• 45:29
  Like, it's always going to be a fun party.
• 45:33
  Did Allie test any of the team workouts?
• 45:38
  She did not.
• 45:39
  She, I think,
• 45:41
  was the only person there at
• 45:43
  the ranch when she was there.
• 45:47
  Yeah, so she did not test team.
• 45:49
  At least she didn't tell me.
• 45:50
  Maybe she's lying.
• 45:52
  She always wants to talk
• 45:53
  about the workouts because it's like,
• 45:54
  I want to tell you everything.
• 45:55
  It's so fun.
• 45:56
  Like, you know, it's CrossFit.
• 45:57
  Like, I want to tell you about my day.
• 45:59
  I did this workout, you know, but...
• 46:02
  we have a we have a really
• 46:03
  good partnership where I
• 46:05
  don't want to put that
• 46:05
  pressure on her I also
• 46:06
  don't want to know like
• 46:07
  it's not fun for me to have
• 46:09
  an unfair advantage so me
• 46:11
  personally I don't know
• 46:13
  well I'd hate to know for
• 46:14
  two months and have to
• 46:15
  think about it yeah that I
• 46:18
  wouldn't I wouldn't sleep
• 46:19
  for two months uh that's funny yeah
• 46:24
  How cool is it, though,
• 46:25
  that Ali has this
• 46:27
  relationship with Dave
• 46:30
  where she's the person he
• 46:32
  trusts to come in and do
• 46:34
  this stuff and know she's
• 46:36
  not going to spill the beans?
• 46:39
  Yeah, that's really nice of you to say.
• 46:41
  She feels very lucky to have his trust,
• 46:44
  like you said.
• 46:46
  And it's a special
• 46:46
  experience to go down to
• 46:47
  the ranch and do things.
• 46:49
  They don't play music.
• 46:51
  You know,
• 46:52
  she got in Sunday at like midday
• 46:54
  and he was like,
• 46:55
  can you come tonight to
• 46:56
  test instead of tomorrow?
• 46:57
  You know,
• 46:57
  it's like you're kind of like
• 47:00
  you're in it.
• 47:01
  You know,
• 47:01
  she probably did the full
• 47:03
  CrossFit Games in like just a few days,
• 47:05
  you know,
• 47:05
  probably probably the same
• 47:06
  amount of time that individuals do.
• 47:07
  Well, you know,
• 47:10
  our very own Carolyn has
• 47:11
  been the rogue tester.
• 47:14
  For the last couple of years
• 47:15
  and and we can't get anything out of her.
• 47:20
  Nope, nope, nope.
• 47:21
  There's a reason why they
• 47:22
  keep coming back to you.
• 47:22
  Yeah.
• 47:25
  It's the same thing.
• 47:25
  It's like you're supposed to
• 47:27
  test one day and then they're like,
• 47:28
  how are you feeling?
• 47:29
  I'm like, I'm good to go.
• 47:30
  And then you just kind of do it.
• 47:33
  But like I'm used to
• 47:33
  training like that where
• 47:34
  I'm just kind of going
• 47:36
  because I don't have, you know,
• 47:37
  a full day that I can just
• 47:38
  hang out at the gym.
• 47:40
  So I'm like, oh, I'm good.
• 47:41
  I only need a couple, you know, twenty,
• 47:43
  thirty minutes and then I'll go again.
• 47:44
  Yeah.
• 47:46
  Yep.
• 47:47
  So true.
• 47:48
  That's fine.
• 47:50
  Hector Trinta says, Hey Raph,
• 47:52
  are you guys coming to
• 47:53
  beetle extravaganza this year?
• 47:55
  Hey Hector.
• 47:56
  Um,
• 47:56
  we went to a competition in Puerto Rico
• 47:59
  last year, um, and had an absolute blast.
• 48:03
  Um,
• 48:04
  Yeah,
• 48:04
  we haven't looked out that far in our
• 48:06
  calendar.
• 48:06
  Allie and I are getting
• 48:07
  married in September.
• 48:09
  So we've got a busy couple months, games,
• 48:13
  getting married.
• 48:16
  We're going to probably have
• 48:16
  to save some money for a
• 48:18
  little bit too after this.
• 48:20
  But we'd love to come back,
• 48:22
  if not this year, another year for sure.
• 48:24
  It was a great time.
• 48:26
  So I did see on your
• 48:27
  Instagram the proposal.
• 48:32
  You guys have been together a long time.
• 48:34
  What flipped the switch, buddy?
• 48:38
  I was just dragging my feet, huh?
• 48:41
  No, I think we're so comfortable.
• 48:44
  I think we knew that we were
• 48:46
  going to be together for
• 48:47
  the rest of our lives.
• 48:48
  And this was just formalizing that.
• 48:51
  And it didn't, to me, feel like...
• 48:55
  important to like make that
• 48:57
  formalization because you
• 48:59
  know like we're both
• 48:59
  professional athletes still
• 49:01
  ally still is pursuing that
• 49:03
  career like we're not like
• 49:04
  hey we got to start family
• 49:05
  we got to get married like
• 49:06
  it wasn't like a a timeline
• 49:09
  of all those things I guess
• 49:11
  um but I I I you know kick
• 49:13
  myself now because like
• 49:15
  once we did kind of
• 49:16
  formalize it it did change
• 49:17
  our relationship and for
• 49:18
  the better like you know we felt
• 49:20
  like there was that mutual
• 49:21
  agreement that is maybe unspoken before.
• 49:25
  So I wish I, of course, had done it sooner,
• 49:26
  but I couldn't be happier.
• 49:29
  CrossFat says, was she dropping hints?
• 49:32
  No, no hints, no nothing.
• 49:34
  I don't get anything, man.
• 49:37
  But like I said, I prefer it that way.
• 49:39
  I say the same thing, Raf,
• 49:40
  and then my wife goes, no,
• 49:41
  I dropped like seventy four hints.
• 49:43
  Yeah, all of them.
• 49:47
  does she get a lot of people
• 49:48
  that will message her trying to,
• 49:50
  because as soon as I was
• 49:53
  like seen in a picture from rogue,
• 49:55
  I had athletes asking me
• 49:56
  about tricks and stuff.
• 49:57
  And I was like, no, but I can't help.
• 49:59
  And, um, I don't know.
• 50:02
  Yeah.
• 50:03
  I don't, I don't know.
• 50:04
  I can't speak for her, but, um,
• 50:07
  it's so early to probably that, like,
• 50:10
  I think a lot of this stuff
• 50:11
  that maybe they test at this point, not,
• 50:13
  it's not early, but they could change.
• 50:16
  Um,
• 50:17
  So, yeah, I don't know.
• 50:20
  I don't know if she does.
• 50:22
  Have you ever been asked to test?
• 50:24
  I got to test the year for
• 50:26
  twenty twenty at the ranch
• 50:28
  during the COVID year.
• 50:30
  So I tested the a few of the
• 50:33
  workouts like the happy star,
• 50:35
  the first one with the row
• 50:36
  by in and the bar muscle
• 50:38
  ups and the shoulder overhead.
• 50:42
  That's when I think we're
• 50:42
  both Matt and Tia like
• 50:44
  failed their last rep of that.
• 50:47
  And then I tested Atalanta, the, you know,
• 50:50
  a hundred handstand pushups,
• 50:51
  two hundred pistols,
• 50:52
  three hundred pull-ups.
• 50:53
  I did it as Mary though.
• 50:54
  So I did one mile run,
• 50:56
  all wearing a weight vest, five, ten,
• 50:58
  fifteen for twenty rounds
• 51:00
  of handstand pushups, pistols,
• 51:01
  and pull-ups.
• 51:02
  Maybe I shouldn't be saying
• 51:03
  that because he might throw
• 51:04
  that out again at some point.
• 51:05
  But anyway,
• 51:08
  I thought my version was way
• 51:10
  harder because your heart
• 51:11
  rate's just like high the whole time.
• 51:14
  But of course,
• 51:14
  I say that just because I got my book.
• 51:20
  It's cool.
• 51:21
  That was cool.
• 51:22
  Uh, would you,
• 51:23
  would you ever want to test again?
• 51:24
  Is that something that was,
• 51:26
  that was a cool experience for you?
• 51:29
  Yeah.
• 51:29
  Like, you know,
• 51:30
  like it's an honor to have Dave's trust.
• 51:33
  We, we,
• 51:34
  we tested the open one year and
• 51:36
  actually I,
• 51:37
  I broke my wrist while testing.
• 51:40
  Um,
• 51:40
  I like tore a lot of ligaments in my
• 51:42
  wrist and basically had to
• 51:43
  miss out that year.
• 51:44
  Um,
• 51:45
  But I would definitely still
• 51:47
  go and test again.
• 51:49
  That was one of the years we
• 51:50
  tested the Open because it was like,
• 51:52
  you know,
• 51:52
  the top one percent from the
• 51:54
  Open made it.
• 51:54
  And, you know,
• 51:55
  we were pretty confident
• 51:57
  that we were going to make
• 51:57
  it to quarterfinals so that
• 51:58
  he didn't have a problem
• 52:00
  helping having us like know
• 52:01
  those workouts, I guess.
• 52:02
  Yeah.
• 52:04
  Yeah.
• 52:06
  And you guys used to live near the ranch,
• 52:08
  correct?
• 52:09
  Yes,
• 52:09
  that was another reason why it was so
• 52:11
  convenient because we could
• 52:12
  be there in an hour.
• 52:13
  Yeah, very easy for us.
• 52:16
  But it's cool.
• 52:17
  It's very special.
• 52:18
  We tested that event where
• 52:20
  in twenty twenty you just
• 52:22
  ran up the hill that they
• 52:23
  have with the feedback and
• 52:27
  and we're like on our hands
• 52:29
  and knees crawling and
• 52:31
  Dave's just kind of up there.
• 52:31
  He's like, oh yeah,
• 52:32
  that's poison oak that
• 52:33
  you're crawling in right now.
• 52:38
  less because your legs are
• 52:39
  just on fire and you're
• 52:41
  just like nine just like
• 52:43
  it's like three feet away
• 52:44
  you know that's pretty
• 52:46
  funny so he's like I should
• 52:48
  that up before these guys
• 52:49
  do it you're like fully the
• 52:51
  guinea pig that seemed like
• 52:53
  one of the most gnarly
• 52:54
  workouts ever it was really
• 52:58
  bad but fun you look back
• 53:00
  on it you're like wow I ran
• 53:02
  up that hill one time
• 53:05
  Well, Raf,
• 53:06
  thank you so much for taking time out.
• 53:08
  We'll be at, I'll be at the games.
• 53:10
  Root me on.
• 53:12
  Hope you guys kill it.
• 53:15
  Thanks so much.
• 53:15
  We're so excited.
• 53:16
  And yeah, go dogs, baby.
• 53:19
  This is great.
• 53:20
  Thank you for having us on.
• 53:21
  Cause you know,
• 53:21
  we want to get our name out there.
• 53:22
  We want people to have
• 53:23
  someone to root for.
• 53:24
  Like, I think when we talk about like,
• 53:26
  like why watch team it's
• 53:27
  like there's no stories
• 53:29
  like there's no nobody
• 53:30
  knows who teams are or who
• 53:32
  people are on teams so try
• 53:34
  to make funny videos about
• 53:35
  teams sometimes so that
• 53:36
  people at least can
• 53:37
  recognize us so I
• 53:38
  appreciate you guys giving
• 53:39
  me the platform to come out
• 53:40
  and people can uh can cheer
• 53:42
  us on there we go go dogs
• 53:44
  we've got some fans now so
• 53:45
  now you guys can watch
• 53:46
  teams because you know who
• 53:47
  to root for there you go
• 53:49
  we'll be rooting for you
• 53:51
  yep good luck thanks y'all
• 53:54
  yeah have a great night ralph ralph
• 53:59
  Awesome.
• 54:00
  So glad he could join us.
• 54:03
  Love to have Raph on.
• 54:05
  But that's why knowing the
• 54:06
  teams helps a lot, right?
• 54:07
  Because I'm sure now some
• 54:09
  people are going to look at
• 54:10
  them and cheer for them even more,
• 54:13
  just knowing them.
• 54:15
  Nicole Sherman, yes, we need the stories.
• 54:18
  I think it's cool that all
• 54:20
  of them are born in different countries.
• 54:21
  Yeah, that is cool.
• 54:24
  Yeah,
• 54:25
  can't be any more eclectic than that.
• 54:29
  um all right so we also had
• 54:32
  a last chance qualifier
• 54:32
  this week that finally went
• 54:34
  final um there was a small
• 54:36
  adjustment on the
• 54:37
  leaderboard but it did not
• 54:38
  make a difference in who
• 54:40
  the winners were we had
• 54:41
  lydia fish and yonakoski
• 54:44
  lydia fish by one point
• 54:45
  yeah over kyra milligan and
• 54:48
  yonakoski pretty handedly
• 54:50
  um took the victory on the men's side
• 54:53
  Does not surprise me.
• 54:54
  Yona is an absolute legend and champ.
• 54:58
  And he had a couple bad
• 55:02
  events over the last few years.
• 55:04
  But other than that, he's been really,
• 55:06
  really steady.
• 55:07
  And congrats to him.
• 55:10
  Lydia Fish.
• 55:12
  young up and comer um it's
• 55:14
  going to be interesting to
• 55:14
  see how she does at the
• 55:16
  games if you have not seen
• 55:17
  her ttt video called
• 55:20
  officially uh games
• 55:23
  participant it is awesome
• 55:26
  it was very good I can't
• 55:27
  believe she's never had
• 55:28
  taco bell what the heck that's crazy
• 55:35
  And did that workout three times.
• 55:37
  When she showed back up for the third time,
• 55:39
  I was like, what?
• 55:41
  Which one did she do three times?
• 55:42
  I haven't watched it yet.
• 55:43
  The leg lift.
• 55:43
  The rope climb.
• 55:45
  Oh, wow.
• 55:45
  Yeah.
• 55:46
  She knew that she needed one
• 55:48
  more rope climb in her head.
• 55:50
  She knew she needed one more.
• 55:52
  How many did she get?
• 55:53
  Eight, eventually.
• 55:57
  Was she like seven, seven, and then eight?
• 55:58
  Yes.
• 55:59
  Yep.
• 56:01
  And it was like close to midnight, right?
• 56:04
  Yes.
• 56:05
  Like she did the last one,
• 56:07
  like almost midnight.
• 56:10
  Wow.
• 56:10
  And just like you,
• 56:11
  she works full time during the day.
• 56:13
  as a server so on her feet
• 56:16
  serving all day and then
• 56:18
  comes in and works out
• 56:20
  that's insane that's what
• 56:22
  see those are the
• 56:24
  storytelling aspects of a
• 56:26
  video that you want here's
• 56:28
  this girl serving as a
• 56:30
  waitress all day works her
• 56:33
  tail off doesn't work out
• 56:36
  three times to to give her
• 56:38
  a better shot at making the
• 56:39
  games and it pans out in
• 56:41
  the last moment wow
• 56:45
  It's really cool.
• 56:46
  And the second time they
• 56:48
  actually did the math wrong.
• 56:49
  Right.
• 56:51
  And so parent was like
• 56:52
  devastated because they, they,
• 56:55
  they didn't calculate the rest correctly.
• 56:58
  And it was the math that, that got her.
• 57:02
  So, yeah.
• 57:04
  And just from a creator's point of view,
• 57:06
  their use of music by
• 57:08
  stripping pieces of the
• 57:09
  music out so they could use
• 57:10
  popular songs made that video so cool.
• 57:17
  I don't know if you guys noticed that,
• 57:18
  but it's a Boston song and
• 57:20
  they pulled like they
• 57:22
  pulled the music out and it
• 57:23
  was just acapella.
• 57:24
  And then they put like they
• 57:26
  added music to it so that
• 57:28
  they couldn't get dinged for copyright.
• 57:29
  Oh.
• 57:32
  It was sweet.
• 57:33
  Really sweet.
• 57:35
  CTP skilled.
• 57:39
  Any thoughts on last chance
• 57:40
  qualifier one last time
• 57:41
  before we leave that?
• 57:47
  I think just having one spot
• 57:49
  pushes a lot of people away
• 57:50
  from doing it.
• 57:52
  If you have a little bit
• 57:54
  more spots on the line,
• 57:55
  more people are going to sign up.
• 57:57
  But with one spot,
• 57:57
  I think that's one of the
• 57:59
  main reasons people didn't do it.
• 58:02
  They waited until the workouts came out.
• 58:04
  If it wasn't good for them, why pay?
• 58:06
  Yep.
• 58:07
  Nine guys, that was just silly.
• 58:14
  You definitely needed more.
• 58:16
  more people participating?
• 58:19
  Like, I don't know if, I mean,
• 58:22
  there definitely was burnout from people,
• 58:24
  but I think the one spot
• 58:26
  was probably a bigger
• 58:27
  factor than people's burnout,
• 58:29
  because if there's more spots,
• 58:31
  people are not as burnt out.
• 58:32
  They're going to try to go for it.
• 58:33
  Yep.
• 58:34
  Um, but I think,
• 58:35
  I think a last chance
• 58:36
  qualifier would be interesting.
• 58:38
  Like if you can only do one
• 58:40
  competition in the year and
• 58:41
  then that's your last chance qualifier,
• 58:43
  um,
• 58:44
  And you had more spots
• 58:45
  online and more spots at
• 58:46
  the in-person events as well, too.
• 58:51
  I agree.
• 58:52
  I think I've made my point
• 58:55
  clear that I hated this
• 58:57
  season's structure.
• 58:57
  Yep.
• 58:58
  It needs completely revamped.
• 59:01
  But we'll see what we get.
• 59:05
  So are you guys ready to
• 59:06
  play Factor Fiction again this week?
• 59:07
  Yep.
• 59:09
  All right,
• 59:10
  I reworded one of the questions
• 59:11
  because I didn't like how it was there,
• 59:13
  and I wanted a different outcome.
• 59:17
  So the first thing is, fact or fiction,
• 59:22
  CrossFit athletes should not do grid,
• 59:26
  should not do grid leg due
• 59:27
  to injury risk during their
• 59:28
  CrossFit game season and or WFP season.
• 59:35
  I mean, I'm going to say fiction, like...
• 59:39
  I get it.
• 59:40
  Like grid is high speed and it's,
• 59:43
  I can see maybe some issues there, but I,
• 59:48
  it,
• 59:49
  it rarely hurts to go get extra
• 59:51
  experience and extra exposure and the,
• 59:54
  and most people say they
• 59:55
  want more opportunities.
• 59:56
  So.
• 59:57
  And I think the thing with
• 59:58
  grid is you need perfect execution.
• 1:00:01
  So it puts a lot of pressure on,
• 1:00:03
  that and that's something
• 1:00:04
  that you can't maybe
• 1:00:05
  replicate in training that
• 1:00:07
  you might get there but I'm
• 1:00:09
  always of the of the belief
• 1:00:10
  of just do as many things
• 1:00:12
  as possible while you can I
• 1:00:15
  mean obviously if it's like
• 1:00:16
  the week before I think
• 1:00:17
  your training should be you
• 1:00:19
  know more priority than a
• 1:00:20
  competition but if it's you
• 1:00:23
  know a month away two
• 1:00:26
  months away I see no problem with it
• 1:00:30
  think it's fiction as well I
• 1:00:31
  think it is a different
• 1:00:33
  audience that you are
• 1:00:34
  exposing to crossfit right
• 1:00:36
  because if you watch these
• 1:00:39
  events on youtube daniel
• 1:00:41
  brandon is described as a
• 1:00:43
  crossfitter someone who is
• 1:00:44
  a crossfit games athlete
• 1:00:46
  you're getting notoriety in
• 1:00:47
  that audience as a crossfit
• 1:00:49
  games athlete and maybe you
• 1:00:51
  get a little crossover
• 1:00:53
  with some crossfit people
• 1:00:55
  watching grid and some grid
• 1:00:56
  people watching crossfit
• 1:00:58
  and that can only benefit
• 1:00:59
  both sides of the table and
• 1:01:02
  any time and I believe that
• 1:01:05
  crossfit should look at
• 1:01:06
  high rocks and try to do
• 1:01:07
  some things like that let's
• 1:01:09
  do a race of james newberry
• 1:01:12
  and tia claire toomey
• 1:01:14
  versus hunter and his woman
• 1:01:19
  of choice right lauren weeks
• 1:01:22
  and have an event
• 1:01:24
  crossfitters versus high rocks.
• 1:01:26
  Let's go.
• 1:01:28
  Like,
• 1:01:28
  I think those are the things that are
• 1:01:29
  going to need to happen.
• 1:01:31
  If CrossFit is going to grow.
• 1:01:33
  Yeah.
• 1:01:37
  So I think Daniel Brandon, Colton Mertens,
• 1:01:40
  John Young,
• 1:01:41
  Lauren Olson dropping in and
• 1:01:43
  doing grid is a good thing.
• 1:01:48
  Yeah.
• 1:01:49
  I think anytime you can compete,
• 1:01:50
  it's good for your brand.
• 1:01:51
  Yeah.
• 1:01:53
  Only a couple relevant
• 1:01:54
  CrossFitters doing grid,
• 1:01:55
  but you can get injured anywhere.
• 1:01:57
  Exactly.
• 1:02:00
  You can't play scared your
• 1:02:02
  whole life and not go for
• 1:02:04
  different opportunities
• 1:02:05
  that are in front of you.
• 1:02:08
  CrossFit depends on the bag for grid.
• 1:02:11
  I think if you're thinking
• 1:02:11
  about the bag that the grid is paying you,
• 1:02:14
  you're short-sighted.
• 1:02:16
  You have to think of the bag
• 1:02:17
  you could be getting
• 1:02:18
  because of the exposure
• 1:02:19
  that that gives you.
• 1:02:24
  Yep.
• 1:02:25
  Personally.
• 1:02:26
  Um, all right.
• 1:02:28
  So factor fiction, number two,
• 1:02:30
  this has two parts.
• 1:02:33
  Third party media companies
• 1:02:35
  broadcasting qualifying
• 1:02:37
  events is here to stay.
• 1:02:40
  Factor fiction.
• 1:02:42
  I'm going to,
• 1:02:42
  I'm going to say fact for one, I think,
• 1:02:47
  I think the way,
• 1:02:49
  especially if CrossFit
• 1:02:50
  keeps outsourcing these events, um, and
• 1:02:55
  it's too expensive to put on
• 1:02:58
  a proper broadcast.
• 1:02:59
  And if you're getting no
• 1:03:01
  help from CrossFit, yeah,
• 1:03:02
  you're going to have to outsource it.
• 1:03:03
  And I mean that, you know,
• 1:03:07
  competition breeds improvement.
• 1:03:09
  So that's not a bad thing.
• 1:03:13
  I think that that's a good
• 1:03:15
  thing for the sport.
• 1:03:16
  I think, like you said,
• 1:03:18
  people have been stepping
• 1:03:19
  up in the space to,
• 1:03:21
  to make sure that we have
• 1:03:22
  eyes on different
• 1:03:23
  competitions and a lot of
• 1:03:25
  them won't even have been seen this year.
• 1:03:27
  So, um,
• 1:03:29
  I think it's important and I think
• 1:03:30
  they're only going to be
• 1:03:31
  getting better as they
• 1:03:32
  learn from each other probably and share,
• 1:03:34
  share common or best
• 1:03:35
  practices and stuff like that.
• 1:03:37
  Um, yeah, I mean,
• 1:03:40
  I just want to be able to
• 1:03:41
  see the most amount of competitions.
• 1:03:44
  So I'm going to do the
• 1:03:44
  second part so I can
• 1:03:45
  piggyback on what you guys said.
• 1:03:47
  And the second part is factor fiction.
• 1:03:49
  Is this good for the sport?
• 1:03:51
  And I say fact.
• 1:03:52
  Yeah.
• 1:03:53
  Both fact they're here to
• 1:03:54
  stay and it's good for the sport.
• 1:03:56
  I have said forever before
• 1:03:58
  even the season started
• 1:03:59
  that the traditional
• 1:04:01
  broadcasts have not changed
• 1:04:02
  since two thousand twelve
• 1:04:04
  when I first started watching CrossFit.
• 1:04:06
  It's the same font on the screen.
• 1:04:09
  It's the same graphics.
• 1:04:11
  It's the same everything.
• 1:04:14
  These third-party companies
• 1:04:15
  are bringing something new
• 1:04:16
  to the table for the first time,
• 1:04:19
  and I think that's good.
• 1:04:21
  It's going to push the
• 1:04:22
  boundaries even of the
• 1:04:23
  traditional broadcast to
• 1:04:25
  maybe do something a little
• 1:04:26
  bit different.
• 1:04:28
  Also,
• 1:04:29
  it's the only way CrossFit is going
• 1:04:30
  to survive.
• 1:04:31
  We can't afford two hundred
• 1:04:33
  thousand dollars for every
• 1:04:34
  event to broadcast it via
• 1:04:37
  the big truck that pulls in.
• 1:04:38
  Right.
• 1:04:39
  We're going to have to find
• 1:04:40
  the lower priced option and
• 1:04:43
  watch them flourish,
• 1:04:45
  watch them try things,
• 1:04:47
  watch them fail and be OK
• 1:04:49
  with the failings because
• 1:04:51
  they're trying something new.
• 1:04:55
  So I think that this is a great thing.
• 1:04:58
  Fact, fact.
• 1:04:59
  Anything to add?
• 1:05:00
  No, I agree.
• 1:05:06
  I agree.
• 1:05:10
  Russ, to be fair,
• 1:05:11
  that's how the Olympics has
• 1:05:12
  looked for twenty four years.
• 1:05:14
  You're right.
• 1:05:15
  The Olympics hasn't changed
• 1:05:16
  graphics because NBC has
• 1:05:17
  carried them nonstop for
• 1:05:20
  twenty four years and
• 1:05:23
  they're the only show in town.
• 1:05:25
  So they don't have to change it.
• 1:05:28
  And everybody watches the Olympics.
• 1:05:31
  Not everybody watches CrossFit, right?
• 1:05:34
  So we can't rely on what's
• 1:05:37
  worked in the past.
• 1:05:40
  I think CrossFit's got a
• 1:05:41
  point here with doing maybe
• 1:05:43
  do a Manning cast and a regular cast.
• 1:05:45
  I think that could help the sport grow.
• 1:05:50
  Here's what has to happen for that,
• 1:05:52
  CrossFit,
• 1:05:53
  is you have to have your
• 1:05:54
  third-party company agree
• 1:05:56
  to share the stream with both announcers.
• 1:06:02
  That's what we don't get.
• 1:06:05
  The Barbell Spin has tried
• 1:06:06
  to do that with a watch party,
• 1:06:08
  but they don't have access
• 1:06:10
  to be able to show the
• 1:06:11
  video in a CrossFit setting.
• 1:06:16
  They did get that with Grid.
• 1:06:19
  And then John got in trouble for it all.
• 1:06:24
  So whatever happened, that can work,
• 1:06:28
  but you have to have an
• 1:06:29
  agreement that the two
• 1:06:31
  broadcast teams both have
• 1:06:32
  access to the stream.
• 1:06:35
  That's why it works on ESPN.
• 1:06:37
  Because ESPN One and ESPN
• 1:06:39
  Two share the stream.
• 1:06:40
  The Mannings do ESPN Two.
• 1:06:42
  Troy Aikman and Joe Buck do ESPN.
• 1:06:51
  And Rogue has done that.
• 1:06:54
  So it's not like it hasn't been done.
• 1:06:56
  Carolyn was part of the
• 1:06:58
  Manning cast on Rogue.
• 1:06:59
  They have a desk where they
• 1:07:00
  talk about the event from
• 1:07:02
  athletes and programmers
• 1:07:04
  and Pat Sherwood.
• 1:07:06
  And then you have Sean and
• 1:07:09
  Adrian Conway on the
• 1:07:11
  traditional broadcast.
• 1:07:13
  And if you bought the twenty
• 1:07:14
  five dollar package,
• 1:07:15
  you could watch either one.
• 1:07:20
  And you got the same feed for both.
• 1:07:24
  Do you think that we'll go
• 1:07:25
  towards having a small fee
• 1:07:28
  like one ninety nine four
• 1:07:32
  ninety nine for the weekend
• 1:07:33
  or something like that?
• 1:07:37
  Some sort of.
• 1:07:39
  Paywall.
• 1:07:42
  There used to be for like
• 1:07:44
  the Granite Games.
• 1:07:45
  What was it?
• 1:07:45
  Flow Elite?
• 1:07:46
  Yeah,
• 1:07:47
  but that was like fifty dollars for a
• 1:07:50
  month.
• 1:07:50
  It was way too expensive.
• 1:07:51
  It was way too expensive.
• 1:07:52
  And you're stuck on a
• 1:07:53
  subscription if you wanted
• 1:07:54
  to do it and then you had
• 1:07:55
  to cancel and forget.
• 1:07:57
  I have said that if it's a small paywall,
• 1:08:00
  I would pay for it.
• 1:08:01
  I get more entertainment out
• 1:08:02
  of watching CrossFit than
• 1:08:03
  going to the movies or
• 1:08:05
  going to a concert.
• 1:08:07
  I get more bang for my buck.
• 1:08:09
  watching a crossfit event
• 1:08:10
  than those other events you
• 1:08:12
  just have to um you just
• 1:08:17
  have to decide where you
• 1:08:18
  want to spend your your
• 1:08:20
  entertainment budget I
• 1:08:23
  don't know I like what
• 1:08:25
  rogue does get the
• 1:08:26
  traditional broadcast for
• 1:08:27
  free and if you want all
• 1:08:29
  the extra add-ons you can
• 1:08:30
  pay for that I'd like to
• 1:08:32
  know what the numbers are
• 1:08:33
  on that like how many
• 1:08:35
  people buy the extra yeah
• 1:08:46
  Yeah, I agree with you, CrossFat.
• 1:08:48
  The Fifty Dollar Flow Elite,
• 1:08:49
  I did one time, and it sucked.
• 1:08:52
  It was a very, very bad broadcast.
• 1:08:55
  I would never, ever do that again.
• 1:09:01
  But like Rogue,
• 1:09:02
  you actually could move the
• 1:09:03
  camera to the lane you
• 1:09:05
  wanted to see whenever you
• 1:09:08
  wanted to do it.
• 1:09:11
  Yeah.
• 1:09:12
  What Rogue has put together,
• 1:09:13
  they have figured it out.
• 1:09:17
  But I'm sure that comes with an expense.
• 1:09:19
  And that other side,
• 1:09:20
  to pay for that expense,
• 1:09:22
  if there was a twenty five
• 1:09:23
  dollar fee for the weekend,
• 1:09:25
  I would pay for it if I got
• 1:09:26
  what Rogue gives me.
• 1:09:29
  Four different camera angles,
• 1:09:31
  one camera that I can move.
• 1:09:33
  And two different broadcasts.
• 1:09:42
  Uh.
• 1:09:44
  Nicole,
• 1:09:44
  if we were guaranteed the ability
• 1:09:46
  to watch all the athletes
• 1:09:47
  or the ones we want to watch, I'd pay.
• 1:09:50
  It's always a bummer when
• 1:09:51
  you can only see the
• 1:09:52
  athletes or one side of the field.
• 1:09:57
  Yeah.
• 1:09:57
  I think if it's like under ten bucks,
• 1:09:59
  probably ideally like under five bucks,
• 1:10:02
  a lot of people would pay for it.
• 1:10:04
  Yeah.
• 1:10:04
  And it's extra money for
• 1:10:05
  whoever is streaming or
• 1:10:07
  back to the competition or whatever.
• 1:10:09
  Um,
• 1:10:12
  I think it could work.
• 1:10:13
  I know we've been spoiled
• 1:10:14
  that it's free for all of these years,
• 1:10:16
  but at some point I feel
• 1:10:19
  like I wouldn't be surprised to see it.
• 1:10:23
  Yeah.
• 1:10:25
  And then CrossFit says,
• 1:10:25
  I bet it's a lost leader for Rogue.
• 1:10:30
  But at least they're trying it.
• 1:10:32
  And if they can get it down,
• 1:10:34
  maybe it becomes less
• 1:10:35
  expensive as you move
• 1:10:37
  forward once they figure it out.
• 1:10:44
  You'd have to find that
• 1:10:45
  sweet spot of how much, right?
• 1:10:48
  Larry young.
• 1:10:48
  If it's less than a Starbucks coffee.
• 1:10:50
  Yeah, for sure.
• 1:10:56
  I'm a bad person to answer that because I,
• 1:10:59
  I love watching CrossFit.
• 1:11:00
  And so I am going to,
• 1:11:02
  I'm going to pay to watch it.
• 1:11:06
  I just am.
• 1:11:07
  I'm like,
• 1:11:09
  that's why I'm a member of a
• 1:11:10
  couple of channels.
• 1:11:11
  That's why I,
• 1:11:13
  Because I want to be able to
• 1:11:15
  watch what I want to watch
• 1:11:16
  when I want to watch it.
• 1:11:18
  And I want to support,
• 1:11:19
  especially the Rogue thing.
• 1:11:20
  I will pay for that every
• 1:11:21
  year because of what they are,
• 1:11:23
  the innovations they are
• 1:11:24
  putting together.
• 1:11:25
  I would love to see that
• 1:11:26
  flourish in some way.
• 1:11:28
  I paid and I didn't even
• 1:11:29
  watch it just because I was
• 1:11:30
  already there.
• 1:11:31
  And I just paid the support.
• 1:11:33
  Jay Birch agrees.
• 1:11:34
  Paying for the tailgate was
• 1:11:35
  worth it last year.
• 1:11:36
  Both last year and the year
• 1:11:38
  before were phenomenal.
• 1:11:40
  Having the alternate broadcast...
• 1:11:42
  with pat sherwood and all
• 1:11:44
  the people at the desk and
• 1:11:46
  again including our own
• 1:11:47
  carolyn prevo um with annie
• 1:11:50
  thor's daughter with josh
• 1:11:51
  bridges who programmed the
• 1:11:52
  event uh dan bailey rich
• 1:11:55
  froning you get to hear all
• 1:11:56
  their perspectives it was
• 1:11:57
  well well worth it a
• 1:12:02
  barbell spin it was only a
• 1:12:03
  dollar ninety nine to watch
• 1:12:04
  syndicate and I messed up
• 1:12:08
  my thing and hit paid five
• 1:12:09
  bucks um anyway
• 1:12:14
  So last factor fiction,
• 1:12:20
  you missed an athlete
• 1:12:21
  because they didn't
• 1:12:22
  participate in the game season this year.
• 1:12:29
  Fiction.
• 1:12:34
  Like we miss like where you missed,
• 1:12:37
  like you felt like you were
• 1:12:38
  cheated out of watching the
• 1:12:40
  event this year because one
• 1:12:42
  of the athletes that set
• 1:12:42
  out didn't compete.
• 1:12:45
  I mean, like there are some notable,
• 1:12:50
  especially I think on the female side,
• 1:12:52
  that more so on the female side,
• 1:12:54
  I think that didn't compete this year.
• 1:12:56
  That would play a big role at the games.
• 1:13:00
  Like it's too bad that they're,
• 1:13:03
  like I miss seeing them compete,
• 1:13:05
  like obviously,
• 1:13:05
  or competing against them.
• 1:13:10
  So at first I thought this is fact for me.
• 1:13:14
  I did not miss.
• 1:13:16
  As I was watching the events,
• 1:13:18
  I didn't even notice people
• 1:13:20
  weren't there.
• 1:13:21
  But then again,
• 1:13:22
  I am very American centric.
• 1:13:24
  I am not European centric
• 1:13:25
  where it was impacted much greater.
• 1:13:28
  And so as I thought about it, I thought,
• 1:13:30
  you know what?
• 1:13:31
  I actually do miss that
• 1:13:34
  Elisa Fuliano is not going to the games.
• 1:13:37
  That's the one I miss
• 1:13:38
  because she showed up when
• 1:13:40
  I don't believe she should
• 1:13:41
  have been allowed,
• 1:13:42
  but she showed up and
• 1:13:43
  showed she was one of the
• 1:13:44
  best athletes on the floor
• 1:13:46
  at two separate events,
• 1:13:47
  and we don't get to see her at the games.
• 1:13:49
  In the past two years,
• 1:13:50
  she's gotten better and better.
• 1:13:54
  And so now I do feel like
• 1:13:57
  I'm missing her coming to
• 1:13:59
  the games to show what she can do.
• 1:14:02
  But then there's like
• 1:14:03
  another part of me that's
• 1:14:04
  like anytime in any sport
• 1:14:06
  that people get injured or don't compete,
• 1:14:12
  you know,
• 1:14:12
  it's an opportunity for new
• 1:14:13
  athletes to arise and step
• 1:14:17
  up and get their names known.
• 1:14:20
  So I don't know how many
• 1:14:21
  rookies there are this year at the games,
• 1:14:23
  but there's definitely a lot that,
• 1:14:24
  you know,
• 1:14:24
  have been close and now they're
• 1:14:26
  going to be getting the opportunity.
• 1:14:27
  So I know the field has
• 1:14:29
  decreased to thirty,
• 1:14:31
  but I still think that
• 1:14:32
  Anytime there's new faces,
• 1:14:35
  it's also good for the sport.
• 1:14:39
  So we have a CrossFit fact.
• 1:14:41
  We don't have a female contender, Laura.
• 1:14:45
  Spin fiction.
• 1:14:48
  As I was watching it, I could tell you,
• 1:14:49
  I would tell you fiction.
• 1:14:51
  Like I didn't feel like I
• 1:14:52
  was missing anything
• 1:14:53
  watching the competitions.
• 1:14:54
  We still got great races.
• 1:14:56
  We still had people to cheer for.
• 1:14:58
  I didn't feel like I was
• 1:14:59
  missing anything in those moments,
• 1:15:02
  but as I ponder it,
• 1:15:03
  I do feel like Elisa showed us.
• 1:15:07
  She should be a contender this year,
• 1:15:09
  but she chose not to be.
• 1:15:10
  So now we miss out on the
• 1:15:12
  end of her story.
• 1:15:15
  I still miss seeing some of
• 1:15:18
  the athletes compete,
• 1:15:19
  but seeing them compete at
• 1:15:20
  the WFP also fills that void, I guess,
• 1:15:26
  of missing them on the
• 1:15:29
  floor and seeing how fit
• 1:15:30
  they are and stuff like that.
• 1:15:31
  Thanks, Larry.
• 1:15:37
  Thank you so much, Larry.
• 1:15:37
  Thank you.
• 1:15:40
  I don't know.
• 1:15:40
  I just,
• 1:15:41
  if you chose to not participate in
• 1:15:44
  the season, like good riddance to you,
• 1:15:48
  I guess.
• 1:15:48
  I don't like it for me.
• 1:15:50
  It's I don't miss them.
• 1:15:53
  Even Laura.
• 1:15:55
  And I think that for us, Jamie,
• 1:15:57
  like we focused on the underdogs,
• 1:16:00
  like our whole podcast life.
• 1:16:02
  Yeah.
• 1:16:03
  So that like all those opportunities.
• 1:16:07
  Yeah, for sure.
• 1:16:08
  Like, that's probably why I didn't miss it,
• 1:16:10
  especially here in the States.
• 1:16:12
  Cause I've interviewed so
• 1:16:13
  many of those athletes for
• 1:16:15
  so many years and seeing
• 1:16:16
  them get their opportunity,
• 1:16:18
  seeing the Lucy's get their opportunity.
• 1:16:20
  See like, yeah, I think that's, yeah,
• 1:16:29
  that's how I answer it anyway.
• 1:16:32
  Um,
• 1:16:32
  barbell spin WFP does not fill that void.
• 1:16:36
  For me, it does.
• 1:16:39
  I liked watching the WFP event.
• 1:16:41
  Um, like I,
• 1:16:43
  I enjoyed watching the athletes
• 1:16:44
  go after it.
• 1:16:45
  Um, because I ended like great one there,
• 1:16:48
  there was some good storylines, staying,
• 1:16:50
  y'all getting back on the
• 1:16:51
  podium on the men's side, Austin,
• 1:16:54
  you know,
• 1:16:55
  beating Jeff in an online or not, not, um,
• 1:16:58
  in an in-person competition.
• 1:17:02
  I thought it was great to watch.
• 1:17:05
  Yeah, I agree.
• 1:17:08
  I was a fan of the WFP.
• 1:17:09
  I don't think we have the
• 1:17:10
  true essence of what it is
• 1:17:12
  yet until we see how it
• 1:17:14
  develops through a whole season.
• 1:17:16
  But we'll see.
• 1:17:21
  And I just think that you
• 1:17:23
  get the people that are
• 1:17:24
  doing the season of the
• 1:17:24
  CrossFit and then you get
• 1:17:25
  the people that are doing
• 1:17:28
  the WFP only and it's almost...
• 1:17:30
  almost like two leagues are
• 1:17:31
  competing final like in
• 1:17:33
  person it would be like two
• 1:17:34
  two professional leagues
• 1:17:36
  and all of a sudden all the
• 1:17:37
  champions are there and
• 1:17:39
  they're going against each
• 1:17:40
  other and there's almost
• 1:17:41
  like well which one's gonna
• 1:17:43
  win the people that are
• 1:17:44
  doing that league or this
• 1:17:45
  league um and I think that
• 1:17:48
  creates a storyline um so
• 1:17:50
  like on the men's side you
• 1:17:51
  had people that were doing
• 1:17:53
  the game season that were
• 1:17:55
  successful and then same
• 1:17:56
  thing on the woman's side
• 1:17:57
  but it'll be interesting as
• 1:17:59
  the season goes
• 1:18:01
  If anything flip-flops.
• 1:18:05
  Spin comes back with,
• 1:18:07
  but Austin and Adler going to the game.
• 1:18:08
  So is DB.
• 1:18:10
  So we'll get to see them all again.
• 1:18:12
  And Craig agrees with Jamie.
• 1:18:14
  Thanks, Craig.
• 1:18:16
  All right.
• 1:18:16
  Well, speaking of spin,
• 1:18:17
  the next item on our list
• 1:18:18
  is he was super sleuthing
• 1:18:20
  again and appears to have
• 1:18:23
  found the site for the run row run.
• 1:18:29
  And it is at a,
• 1:18:31
  I think it's called foundation park.
• 1:18:34
  It's been a couple of days
• 1:18:35
  since I've read this.
• 1:18:36
  Um, but here's a picture of it.
• 1:18:37
  I'm just show my notes.
• 1:18:39
  Um, here is the picture of the park,
• 1:18:44
  maybe something landing.
• 1:18:46
  That's what it is.
• 1:18:49
  Um, yeah, on the games website,
• 1:18:52
  if you look at the first
• 1:18:53
  event that they've released,
• 1:18:54
  like if you go to the, um,
• 1:18:56
  CrossFit games workouts.
• 1:18:59
  Um,
• 1:18:59
  like the one event is released and it
• 1:19:01
  says the location of it is
• 1:19:03
  Jennings landing.
• 1:19:05
  Yep.
• 1:19:06
  That's what it is.
• 1:19:07
  And then, um,
• 1:19:09
  if you go up the Hudson river,
• 1:19:10
  there's a clearing where
• 1:19:12
  you could at the exact two mile mark.
• 1:19:15
  So it could be there because
• 1:19:18
  if you go to the turnaround
• 1:19:19
  and come back for four miles,
• 1:19:22
  then you have the, the four, four, two,
• 1:19:25
  two, four, three, two, four, three, two.
• 1:19:30
  But here it is on the Hudson
• 1:19:33
  with a nice clearing.
• 1:19:34
  And then he also provided on the spin,
• 1:19:37
  you can go check it out,
• 1:19:39
  the Google Maps version,
• 1:19:41
  where you can see here's
• 1:19:42
  mile two and four with the rowers.
• 1:19:45
  Here's the turnaround at mile three.
• 1:19:48
  Here's mile one and five and
• 1:19:49
  the start finish.
• 1:19:52
  Everything makes sense.
• 1:19:54
  And he's usually pretty
• 1:19:56
  accurate on these guesses.
• 1:19:59
  So...
• 1:20:01
  That was pretty cool.
• 1:20:05
  Yeah, good sleuthing.
• 1:20:07
  Clock,
• 1:20:07
  rowing on machines on the bank of a
• 1:20:09
  river is just a goofy look.
• 1:20:13
  Wouldn't it be cool if they
• 1:20:14
  actually had to put a boat
• 1:20:15
  in the water and row on the Hudson?
• 1:20:18
  Yes.
• 1:20:18
  Do you remember when,
• 1:20:20
  was it Filthy One Fifty did it?
• 1:20:23
  Yeah, I think it was.
• 1:20:26
  Yeah, that was insane.
• 1:20:27
  I love that.
• 1:20:32
  I would like that.
• 1:20:36
  So there is that.
• 1:20:37
  Tia says in a YouTube video
• 1:20:39
  she was very sick at the
• 1:20:39
  High Rocks World
• 1:20:40
  Championships and didn't do
• 1:20:42
  much the week prior and
• 1:20:44
  hasn't moved in the week since.
• 1:20:47
  Carolyn warned me that her
• 1:20:49
  not moving could be
• 1:20:50
  different than my not moving.
• 1:20:51
  Yeah.
• 1:20:54
  um but uh but it wasn't of
• 1:20:57
  what I was appreciative of
• 1:20:58
  is she kind of got to the
• 1:20:59
  point in the video and
• 1:21:00
  actually said what happened
• 1:21:02
  and not make us guess and
• 1:21:06
  if you were with us last
• 1:21:07
  week this made me ask the
• 1:21:10
  factor fiction do you think
• 1:21:12
  this assures us because she
• 1:21:14
  had to withdraw from the
• 1:21:15
  world championships and she
• 1:21:16
  will definitely now do the
• 1:21:17
  crossfit games and everybody said fact
• 1:21:23
  You guys did.
• 1:21:24
  The chat did not necessarily
• 1:21:25
  agree with you.
• 1:21:28
  She sounded sick, man.
• 1:21:30
  Yeah, she did sound sick.
• 1:21:32
  I hope she does the games.
• 1:21:33
  I hope she's going to be able to do it.
• 1:21:39
  But think about this.
• 1:21:40
  She's gone eight, seven years, nine years,
• 1:21:45
  nine years of CrossFit
• 1:21:46
  games and never been sick
• 1:21:48
  or hurt at the CrossFit games.
• 1:21:53
  Her back was sore.
• 1:21:55
  Her back wasn't great.
• 1:22:06
  Her back being not great
• 1:22:08
  just means that people were
• 1:22:09
  a little bit close to her.
• 1:22:16
  Athletes play through injuries,
• 1:22:19
  but to get to go where you...
• 1:22:22
  don't have to withdraw from
• 1:22:23
  anything in nine years is insane.
• 1:22:25
  It is insane.
• 1:22:29
  That is just unbelievable.
• 1:22:32
  I've been saying for years
• 1:22:32
  that I was not picking her
• 1:22:33
  because some year it had to happen,
• 1:22:36
  and it just never did.
• 1:22:40
  But maybe this is the year.
• 1:22:41
  Jodi, Lynn is trying to start rumors.
• 1:22:43
  Yeah, I don't think that's it.
• 1:22:50
  If that affects your voice
• 1:22:52
  and your throat.
• 1:22:56
  Depends on how sick you are
• 1:22:57
  in the morning.
• 1:23:01
  The other thing is in the
• 1:23:03
  same Red Bull Rancher event
• 1:23:05
  that Ariel Lowen won,
• 1:23:07
  apparently Guy Mijeros
• 1:23:11
  dislocated his shoulder.
• 1:23:14
  If you've not seen the video,
• 1:23:15
  like Ariel does a video
• 1:23:16
  where you can see the whole thing.
• 1:23:18
  It's a fun race to watch.
• 1:23:20
  it is that looked fun yeah
• 1:23:23
  it was really cool to watch
• 1:23:25
  it's like obstacles with a
• 1:23:27
  little bit of strength like
• 1:23:29
  I wouldn't want to watch it
• 1:23:30
  week after week but for
• 1:23:31
  like a one-off it was
• 1:23:33
  really cool did they win
• 1:23:34
  anything like money-wise uh
• 1:23:35
  she got a big belt buckle I
• 1:23:40
  think there was prize money
• 1:23:41
  I think there's checks at
• 1:23:42
  in the podium pictures it
• 1:23:46
  was sponsored by red bull
• 1:23:48
  and they have more money than god
• 1:23:51
  I've been watching this drive to survive.
• 1:23:53
  Like, they have so much money.
• 1:23:56
  So much money.
• 1:24:02
  Just to kind of let you guys
• 1:24:04
  know this week,
• 1:24:05
  I'll be reviewing some
• 1:24:07
  content that came out this week,
• 1:24:09
  this weekend.
• 1:24:11
  Road to the Games, a new one,
• 1:24:12
  came out with the Australian athletes,
• 1:24:15
  Ricky J. Crouch and Matty Sturtz.
• 1:24:21
  The new Hiller video came out today,
• 1:24:24
  crossing my two fandoms,
• 1:24:26
  and my mind's getting blown
• 1:24:28
  because my Chicago Bears
• 1:24:29
  podcast is doing a video of
• 1:24:31
  the same thing in Shepherdstown,
• 1:24:36
  West Virginia with Tyson
• 1:24:38
  that Hiller was there for.
• 1:24:39
  So it's going to be
• 1:24:40
  interesting to see the two perspectives.
• 1:24:42
  And then Lydia Fish,
• 1:24:45
  I'll talk about that a
• 1:24:46
  little more in detail as well.
• 1:24:50
  Uh, there is a pit throwdown this weekend.
• 1:24:55
  It's yeah, it's pit fest.
• 1:24:56
  So the pit pit team throwdown,
• 1:24:59
  the collegiate throwdown, um,
• 1:25:02
  and pit training league
• 1:25:04
  championship is all this weekend.
• 1:25:06
  So Thursday is the teen and
• 1:25:08
  cop and collegiate.
• 1:25:10
  Um, well,
• 1:25:11
  I guess Thursday and Friday is that,
• 1:25:12
  and then Saturday is Thursday.
• 1:25:16
  I don't,
• 1:25:16
  I don't remember exactly how it goes,
• 1:25:18
  but yeah, the teens are Thursday, Friday.
• 1:25:21
  Um, and we are actually redemption.
• 1:25:23
  We're going to,
• 1:25:23
  we actually have two teens going.
• 1:25:26
  And then we also, um,
• 1:25:28
  work with them and we're
• 1:25:29
  going to run a community workout at,
• 1:25:32
  in the morning on Thursday.
• 1:25:35
  So we programmed a workout
• 1:25:36
  and we're going to run it there.
• 1:25:38
  That'll be fun.
• 1:25:40
  Nice little opportunity for us.
• 1:25:47
  clock you're you're messing
• 1:25:49
  with me you're messing with
• 1:25:52
  me uh larry young I'd sell
• 1:25:55
  out red bull games there's
• 1:26:00
  quite a bit of red bull
• 1:26:02
  athletes now I think in our
• 1:26:03
  space there wasn't many
• 1:26:04
  like a couple years ago I
• 1:26:05
  think it was koski laura
• 1:26:08
  were like the two notable
• 1:26:09
  ones but I've been seeing a
• 1:26:10
  lot more I think
• 1:26:12
  I think Victor Hoffer is Red Bull.
• 1:26:15
  Noah wears Red Bull.
• 1:26:18
  There's, there's quite a few now.
• 1:26:21
  So that's like a, a lot of major,
• 1:26:23
  that's a major sponsor.
• 1:26:25
  Yeah.
• 1:26:25
  I wonder if Ariel's in talks.
• 1:26:27
  Cause why would they invite
• 1:26:28
  her to their games?
• 1:26:31
  Right.
• 1:26:31
  And Guy probably too.
• 1:26:36
  Um, I mean,
• 1:26:36
  those are two good people to have,
• 1:26:38
  especially with social media.
• 1:26:39
  Um,
• 1:26:41
  posting and stuff like that.
• 1:26:42
  Popular athletes.
• 1:26:46
  Uh, Jaybridge is Alexis Red Bull.
• 1:26:49
  I have not seen her in Red Bull stuff.
• 1:26:57
  Um, where was it?
• 1:27:00
  Um,
• 1:27:01
  someone said that Guy got hurt jumping
• 1:27:03
  for the buzzer at that.
• 1:27:07
  Yeah.
• 1:27:07
  I guess shoulder as he, uh,
• 1:27:11
  Dough for the buzzer.
• 1:27:17
  Larry Young,
• 1:27:18
  Jamie in that tank making me
• 1:27:19
  think I need to hit some buys and tries.
• 1:27:23
  You know what?
• 1:27:24
  I'm seeing your gym,
• 1:27:26
  your garage gym get better and better.
• 1:27:29
  I need to visit Texas and
• 1:27:31
  hang out for a couple of
• 1:27:32
  days and get some workouts in there.
• 1:27:34
  Larry Young.
• 1:27:36
  And then your little like
• 1:27:37
  cabinets with hidden walls behind them.
• 1:27:43
  Hayley Adams is Red Bull.
• 1:27:47
  And Reebok.
• 1:27:48
  Reebok.
• 1:27:52
  She could be Reebok for
• 1:27:54
  shoes and then has to be
• 1:27:55
  Red Bull for like.
• 1:27:56
  She's Adidas.
• 1:27:58
  Or Adidas.
• 1:27:58
  Yeah, sorry, Adidas.
• 1:27:59
  Sorry, Adidas.
• 1:28:00
  Yeah.
• 1:28:00
  Yeah.
• 1:28:03
  CrossFit.
• 1:28:04
  Larry, don't say too much.
• 1:28:05
  She'll be wearing a turtleneck next show.
• 1:28:07
  Well, that'd be the same as Laura,
• 1:28:08
  because Laura is Adidas as well,
• 1:28:10
  and then with the Red Bull hat,
• 1:28:12
  so probably a similar connection.
• 1:28:15
  It's been a pretty good year for Adidas,
• 1:28:18
  with Bill getting into the
• 1:28:19
  games and Haley, Jorge, Ty Jenkins.
• 1:28:26
  Yeah.
• 1:28:27
  They picked the right table to start with.
• 1:28:30
  All those young guns are
• 1:28:31
  making it to the games.
• 1:28:35
  I got mine on right now.
• 1:28:37
  I've always liked Adidas.
• 1:28:40
  It's a nice company.
• 1:28:41
  Larry says, come on down.
• 1:28:45
  Yeah.
• 1:28:46
  All right.
• 1:28:48
  I think there was one.
• 1:28:49
  I don't know.
• 1:28:49
  I think that was it.
• 1:28:50
  I think that was it.
• 1:28:54
  Again,
• 1:28:55
  tomorrow I'll tell you the story of
• 1:28:56
  my mechanic and how I had
• 1:28:58
  to break into my own car this weekend.
• 1:29:01
  And don't forget to like and
• 1:29:04
  subscribe to the channel.
• 1:29:06
  And we got a new member tonight,
• 1:29:09
  Larry Young.
• 1:29:10
  So cool that he did that.
• 1:29:13
  Thank you for that.
• 1:29:15
  We've got about a handful in
• 1:29:16
  the last week or so.
• 1:29:18
  Who's going to win tonight's
• 1:29:20
  basketball game?
• 1:29:21
  Pacers or OKC?
• 1:29:25
  I was going to go with
• 1:29:26
  Pacers until my ESPN alert
• 1:29:28
  came up saying that
• 1:29:29
  Halliburton had to be
• 1:29:30
  carried off the floor.
• 1:29:31
  I did see that.
• 1:29:34
  So now I don't know.
• 1:29:36
  but they're up one at halftime.
• 1:29:40
  I wanted to ask you,
• 1:29:41
  that's one thing this week.
• 1:29:44
  Why can't Edmonton score in
• 1:29:45
  the damn finals?
• 1:29:48
  Connor McDavid is one of the
• 1:29:50
  greatest players to ever
• 1:29:51
  play the game and he can't
• 1:29:53
  score in the finals.
• 1:29:55
  I hate the Florida Panthers.
• 1:29:56
  They're good though.
• 1:29:59
  I hate the Florida Panthers and you're,
• 1:30:04
  your Canadian team didn't help me out.
• 1:30:06
  None.
• 1:30:08
  No, I was rooting for them.
• 1:30:09
  I tried, tried giving them positive vibes,
• 1:30:12
  but yeah, that Florida team was good.
• 1:30:15
  You know, it's going to be crazy as,
• 1:30:19
  and after tonight we're
• 1:30:21
  down to just baseball.
• 1:30:24
  No, the WNBA.
• 1:30:26
  I've been watching a bunch.
• 1:30:27
  That's a regular season.
• 1:30:29
  We've had all these months of playoffs,
• 1:30:31
  and now we're just done.
• 1:30:33
  NBA, NWSL,
• 1:30:36
  all the women's sports are coming now.
• 1:30:39
  You just don't watch as much,
• 1:30:40
  but this is prime for me
• 1:30:43
  right now to watch.
• 1:30:44
  Listen, I watch more WNBA than I do NBA.
• 1:30:48
  Me too.
• 1:30:48
  I bought the league pass,
• 1:30:51
  so I've been watching all
• 1:30:52
  the games on my phone.
• 1:30:54
  Have you seen on Netflix the
• 1:30:58
  Shaquille O'Neal
• 1:30:59
  documentary called Power Move?
• 1:31:01
  I have not.
• 1:31:04
  We'll finish with this.
• 1:31:06
  So basically Shaq came into
• 1:31:08
  the league as a Reebok
• 1:31:09
  athlete and has stayed with
• 1:31:11
  them ever since.
• 1:31:13
  Allen Iverson got a lifetime
• 1:31:14
  contract from Reebok a
• 1:31:16
  couple years after that.
• 1:31:17
  So he's still with Reebok.
• 1:31:19
  In
• 1:31:25
  So Shaq has been named the
• 1:31:28
  president of basketball
• 1:31:29
  operations to bring back
• 1:31:31
  the Reebok shoe in this documentary.
• 1:31:33
  It's six episode series,
• 1:31:35
  and it's him recruiting
• 1:31:37
  young athletes to the
• 1:31:39
  Reebok brand to try to build it back up.
• 1:31:43
  And so they, they're trying,
• 1:31:45
  they can't afford to go out
• 1:31:47
  and get the big hitter.
• 1:31:48
  So they're trying to get, um,
• 1:31:50
  they got angel Reese.
• 1:31:52
  I was getting to that.
• 1:31:54
  So they're focusing on the
• 1:31:56
  WNBA and younger athletes
• 1:31:59
  and using NILs to get them
• 1:32:01
  while they're in college
• 1:32:03
  before they get there to hopefully.
• 1:32:06
  But Angel Reese debuted their new shoe.
• 1:32:10
  It's the first time a woman
• 1:32:12
  had ever debuted a new shoe
• 1:32:14
  for any basketball shoe company.
• 1:32:17
  And they were sweet.
• 1:32:18
  They were like metallic silver.
• 1:32:20
  I don't know if you saw them.
• 1:32:23
  I'm a I'm a shoe whore I
• 1:32:24
  love shoes of all kinds but
• 1:32:27
  I went to look they were so
• 1:32:28
  well you have sabrina that
• 1:32:31
  has a shoe asia has a shoe
• 1:32:32
  was it before those two or
• 1:32:34
  the first for reebok it's
• 1:32:36
  no it's the first time the
• 1:32:38
  woman the woman who has the shoe
• 1:32:42
  Okay, so Asia has a shoe,
• 1:32:44
  but it's a version of their
• 1:32:46
  shoe that's her signature brand.
• 1:32:49
  But a male athlete debuted it first.
• 1:32:53
  This is the first time a
• 1:32:54
  woman was the first to wear
• 1:32:55
  it on the court.
• 1:32:58
  And then she wore the base model.
• 1:33:01
  Now they're making her like
• 1:33:04
  she has three designs that
• 1:33:05
  are her shoe now.
• 1:33:07
  But it's still the same like base model.
• 1:33:10
  It just has a different look.
• 1:33:14
  It's called the engine Reebok engine,
• 1:33:16
  engine a and I went to look for them.
• 1:33:19
  They're all sold out.
• 1:33:25
  So anyway.
• 1:33:34
  Anyway, there we go.
• 1:33:37
  Angel Reese is a tough face of a shoe.
• 1:33:39
  I think she's a great face for a shoe.
• 1:33:42
  I think the rivalry is
• 1:33:43
  getting her attention,
• 1:33:44
  and I think that that is
• 1:33:46
  all that people care about.
• 1:33:53
  That's basically what New
• 1:33:55
  Balance did with Cooper Flagg.
• 1:33:57
  Yeah.
• 1:33:58
  It's cool.
• 1:33:58
  It's cool meeting these young,
• 1:33:59
  talented athletes.
• 1:34:02
  I don't think it's a bad production.
• 1:34:04
  Anyway, I enjoyed it.
• 1:34:06
  Go check it out.
• 1:34:10
  It was much a happier
• 1:34:12
  documentary than the Brett
• 1:34:13
  Favre documentary that made
• 1:34:15
  me want to vomit.
• 1:34:17
  So that guy's a scumbag,
• 1:34:20
  and I will say that going to my grave,
• 1:34:22
  and it's not just because he's a packer.
• 1:34:25
  Stealing money from the poor
• 1:34:27
  is about as low as low can get,
• 1:34:31
  allegedly.
• 1:34:34
  With that...
• 1:34:35
  Thank you for joining us tonight.
• 1:34:37
  Don't forget to like and subscribe.
• 1:34:39
  Thank you in the chat for being here.
• 1:34:41
  Thank you to Rafter and for
• 1:34:42
  jumping on with us to talk team.
• 1:34:44
  And with that,
• 1:34:45
  I hope you all have a great
• 1:34:46
  night and a great week ahead.
• 1:34:48
  We'll see everybody next week on Sunday,
• 1:34:51
  Sunday, Sunday night, CrossFit talk.
• 1:34:54
  Bye guys.