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- 0:00Hurricane Helen has come through the United States and
- 0:03it's had a lot of damage. Not only property damage, but
- 0:07it's taken 52 lives in the U.S.
- 0:10Not just in Florida, but in Georgia, North Carolina, and
- 0:14other places. And it's caused flash flooding in a lot of
- 0:17those places. Homes were floating around. It's
- 0:21not good. And it doesn't look like it's going to
- 0:24get better with storms. And I had a question from an audience member
- 0:28saying, hey, Andrew, can you start talking about how climate change is
- 0:31affecting these hurricanes? And we're going to talk about that on today's episode of
- 0:35the How to Protect the Ocean podcast. Let's start the show. Hey
- 0:43everybody, welcome back to another exciting episode of the How to Protect the Ocean podcast. I'm
- 0:46your host, Andrew Lewin, and this is the podcast where you find out what's happening with the ocean, how
- 0:50you can speak up for the ocean, what you can do to live for a better ocean by
- 0:53taking action. And on today's episode, we're not talking about
- 0:56something that's fun to talk about, in my opinion. Hurricane Helen just went
- 1:00through Florida, Georgia, North Carolinas, and
- 1:04other places, taking 52 lives. causing
- 1:08so much damage and we need to
- 1:12talk about it. We need to talk about these storms. Interesting
- 1:17in a lot of different ways, in that it was a lot bigger,
- 1:21larger in space. When you look at the radius
- 1:24and the diameter of this storm, it really
- 1:29increased rapidly from a Hurricane 1, Category
- 1:331, to a Hurricane 4. We're going to talk about these categories. And
- 1:37we're going to talk about what scientists are now thinking in terms of maybe adding
- 1:41another category. So we're going to talk about that today. But we're going to talk about
- 1:45why you know climate change is actually helping
- 1:49these storms become more intense and more frequent and
- 1:52even a lot more flooding, a lot more rain is being
- 1:56had in these hurricanes and
- 1:59that's a danger to a lot of places. So we're going
- 2:02to talk about that a number of times and we're also going to talk about
- 2:06ways that people can get better access, you
- 2:09know ways that you know past storms may have
- 2:13had an influence on the decision of how people or
- 2:17when people will evacuate if they will evacuate and we're gonna we're
- 2:20gonna talk about that as well so lots to get into before
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- 3:27But anyway, let's get into the episode. This is not
- 3:31a fun episode to talk about. Like I said, people lost their lives, people
- 3:34lost their homes. Insurance is really difficult to come by, especially when
- 3:37it comes to flash flooding or any kind of hurricanes, especially
- 3:41in Florida. I watched a lot of videos that
- 3:46were covering it. A lot of people were live streaming during the time. A lot
- 3:50more people didn't evacuate, and that's a scary
- 3:54thought. And I think a lot of it was because it
- 3:59started off as a category one. It hit the Yucatan Peninsula,
- 4:03so in Mexico. And it was like a Category 3. And once it goes
- 4:06over land a little bit, it kind of dissipates. And it went down to a Category 1. But
- 4:10it rapidly increased. And the size, the
- 4:13sheer size of the hurricane, not the intensity, but the size
- 4:17in terms of how the hurricane clouds, how much area
- 4:21it covered, was a lot bigger, probably one of the biggest ones we've seen
- 4:24in a long time. And you can see there were videos
- 4:28of people being rescued on sailboats and people being rescued
- 4:31from flooding, but even before the hurricane came in. And
- 4:35obviously, that's a danger. But I went from a Category 1 to a Category
- 4:394. And I want to just talk a little bit about the category.
- 4:43So the Saphir-Simpson Hurricane Wind Scale
- 4:47is what categorizes these hurricanes. So
- 4:50it's categories right now currently 1 to 5. And
- 4:54it basically goes by wind. So Category 1 is a 74 to 95 mile an hour
- 4:58winds. Category 2 is 96 to 110 miles an hour. three
- 5:05attack at the hurricane category three which is a major hurricane is
- 5:08considered the beginning of the major hurricanes is a hundred eleven two hundred nine
- 5:12hundred twenty nine miles an hour winds category four
- 5:16which was what hurricane helen was was a hundred and thirty two hundred and fifty
- 5:19six mile per hour winds percent against big wins here and
- 5:23category five which hurricane barrel was earlier this year earlier this
- 5:26summer was a hundred and fifty seven mile an hour winds or
- 5:30higher The types of damage for Category 1, if
- 5:34you just think about that, is very dangerous winds will produce some damage. Well-constructed
- 5:38frame homes could have damage to roofs, shingles, vinyl siding,
- 5:41and gutters. Large branches of trees will snap and shallow
- 5:45rooted trees will be toppled. Extensive damage to power
- 5:48lines and poles likely will result in power outages that
- 5:52could last a few to several days. So that's just a Category 1. I'm
- 5:55not going to read all of them because I'll put a link in the show notes
- 5:59of where You can get access to this. This is on the NOAA website. But
- 6:02a major hurricane, Category 3, is devastating
- 6:06damage will occur. Well-built framed homes may incur major
- 6:10damage or removal of roof, decking, and gable ends.
- 6:14I'm not sure what gable ends are, but many trees will be
- 6:17snapped or uprooted, blocking numerous roads. Electricity and
- 6:21water will be unavailable for several days to weeks after the storm passes.
- 6:24I was involved in a Hurricane 3. when I
- 6:28lived in Halifax back in 2003, 2004. It was Hurricane
- 6:33Juan. It rapidly intensified. We thought it was going to
- 6:36be a tropical storm. It ended up being a Category 3. Those
- 6:40winds were no joke. We were lucky in terms of
- 6:43where my wife and I were living, but the downtown areas where
- 6:46there was lots of huge trees that were upended put the city, just
- 6:50disabled the city for like three weeks in a state of emergency. And
- 6:54that is obviously not good. Category 4, which is Hurricane Helen,
- 6:59has catastrophic damage will occur. Well-built framed houses
- 7:02can sustain severe damage with loss of most of
- 7:06the roof structure and or some exterior walls. Most
- 7:09trees will be snapped or uprooted and power poles downed.
- 7:13Fallen trees and power poles will
- 7:17isolate residential areas. Power outages will last weeks to
- 7:21possibly months. Most of the area will be uninhabitable for weeks
- 7:24or months. I
- 7:31think the Tampa Bay area and the panhandle of Florida.
- 7:35And they're saying, hey, you know what? Earlier in the day, it's a category one.
- 7:39You might want to think about evacuating. But because the
- 7:43ocean, the Gulf of Mexico, is so warm, that this could rapidly
- 7:47increase into something like category 2, 3, or
- 7:504. It ended up being 4. But a day is not
- 7:53a lot of time to get a lot of people out of a city or a lot
- 7:57of people out of the area. It's not just Tampa Bay. You've got surrounding areas.
- 8:01We knew the storm surge was going to be heavy. And storm surge essentially
- 8:04is what water comes to the land from a storm, right?
- 8:08Surging water that comes through, storm surge. They were predicting maybe
- 8:11about eight feet high. That's, you know, above
- 8:15most people's height, right? It'd be very, I would say everybody's
- 8:18height. It's safe to say, unless you're a basketball player and you're eight feet, that
- 8:22doesn't exist as far as I know. But, you know, so that's up
- 8:27above most houses, first floor houses. So that
- 8:30could be very dangerous in terms of flooding roads, you can't get out
- 8:33if you can't leave. There were videos that I saw of
- 8:37older people who were saying, look, I just
- 8:40don't have the means to leave. I'm going to ride it out. There was
- 8:44another gentleman who made CNN. During
- 8:47the storm, he was actually live streaming from his house. in
- 8:51a kayak, and he was on the kayak in probably about
- 8:54five or six feet of water, it looked like, and he was live
- 8:58streaming. He was fine, but he basically lost everything in
- 9:01his home. I think he tried to put stuff in storage. I don't know the full story on
- 9:05this, but he was just sitting on a kayak throughout the whole time, but
- 9:08that water could have gone higher, right? We don't
- 9:11know exactly what that was gonna do, depending on that
- 9:15surge. And when you have a surge, you have rapidly,
- 9:19We have water coming in rapidly, and it could
- 9:23have a current to it. And that could be dangerous if you're out of the house or
- 9:27you're not. Even on boats, boats were being flown all over the place.
- 9:30The next day, you saw boats all over the land. These
- 9:34are some 20, 30 footers, 40 footers that were just everywhere
- 9:37because the waves were coming in so high, the storm surge was coming in so high.
- 9:43The winds were crazy. Just as
- 9:46I read for the Category 4 hurricanes, catastrophic
- 9:50damage to houses. Homes were actually floating away. If
- 9:54it's not properly framed homes or not, what do they call
- 9:59it, well-built framed homes, your home
- 10:02has had a risk of just floating
- 10:06away. That's dangerous in and of itself, and you
- 10:09don't want to see that happen to anybody. The guy in the kayak was saying
- 10:13to CNN, he doesn't have insurance on his home. He
- 10:16said, we'll just have to start over, and we're just going to have to continue to do this. This
- 10:20is why I tell people, you may not want to live in Florida. You
- 10:23may not want to live in Florida. A lot of people still say, hey, I want to
- 10:26go to Florida because it's so nice. There are some times you may not want
- 10:29to live there full year round or have an own property because one,
- 10:33you may not get insurance for flooding. And it's not necessarily just
- 10:36these major hurricanes. There's an article in The Hill. And
- 10:43I'll put that link in this show notes in the description. They
- 10:47start talking about how because the Gulf
- 10:51of Mexico and the ocean is getting hotter, then that
- 10:54means the clouds are holding more water
- 10:58because there's more evaporation of water, goes into the
- 11:02clouds, and the clouds are holding, so these hurricane clouds are holding more water. It doesn't matter
- 11:05if it's a hurricane one, four, or five. It matters how
- 11:08much water this is holding. There's more water that's coming down, and
- 11:12that means more flooding. You know, when you add that to the
- 11:15storm surge, you add that to sea level rise, there are a lot of
- 11:18vulnerable areas along those coastlines and maybe even inland more
- 11:22because they're not ready for this type of rain, the
- 11:25amount of rain that we're willing to have. The infrastructure was not built
- 11:29that way. And so even if you have a Category 1, people
- 11:32didn't leave when it was a Category 4 because they couldn't because they thought it was a Category 1 or
- 11:362 when it first started to come. They think, hey, you know what, I can survive
- 11:40a category one. Well, one, you have the risk of it increasing because of
- 11:43rapidly increasing because it's getting hotter and hotter in the ocean, more
- 11:46evaporation is coming. Apparently, this is how the winds increase
- 11:50is when it gets hotter and hotter. And so that energy transfer from
- 11:54the ocean to the clouds gets
- 11:57faster. And so that means it increases not only the size of
- 12:01the storm, but it increases the wind speeds. Hence why we had such
- 12:04a rapidly increasing category 1 to 4. It increased that wind speed
- 12:07super, super fast. So you have that risk of it actually increasing as
- 12:11it comes closer to land. But then you also have the risk of just the flooding
- 12:14that comes. Even if it's a category 1, you risk people saying,
- 12:18hey, you know what? It's only a category 1. I live in Florida. I've lived my
- 12:21entire life here. And I've gone through hurricanes. And there have been some
- 12:24where we've evacuated. But category ones, that's just like a
- 12:27big storm. And you kind of get that toughness to it because you're like, yeah, we got some damage, maybe
- 12:31a couple of broken windows. We'll put the protectors on the windows. And
- 12:35we'll make sure we reinforce some sandbags and things like that to make sure
- 12:38the water doesn't come in. But we'll be fine. But then you get more water than expected.
- 12:43That's dangerous, right? That's dangerous to your infrastructure that's not
- 12:46used to that much water, right? At that amount of time. Case in
- 12:50point, Burlington, Ontario, where I live, we had the
- 12:53remnants of Hurricane Beryl came right up the Midwest, and
- 12:56it took a little right turn, it came right into Ontario. And we
- 13:00had massively rapid rains. We had squalls. It
- 13:03was like, you know, rain squalls, which we don't normally have. We were in squall warnings
- 13:06for a long time. And not only did we get so much water, we had so
- 13:10much water that a lot of the infrastructure couldn't hold. People were flooded out
- 13:13of their homes, in their basements, even in the first level. Though not only
- 13:16their basements filled up all the way, but the first level filled up about five
- 13:20or six feet in certain areas. That infrastructure gets tested
- 13:23during these storms. We just can't continue to
- 13:27have this. That infrastructure is going to have to change. We're going to have to adapt. We're going to have to put more money
- 13:30in the system and really start to look at our politicians to
- 13:34make sure that they are protecting us for that adaptation. Because
- 13:37until we do something to reduce climate change, which we're not doing fast
- 13:41enough, We are going to have these storms. They are going to
- 13:44increase in intensity. They are going to increase in number. There are
- 13:47two more storms apparently right behind Hurricane Ellen, and the
- 13:51ocean hasn't really cooled down from these storms, so it's just going to
- 13:54get hotter and hotter, and we're just going to find, like, we're late September
- 13:58up here in Ontario, and it's 23 degrees. Celsius.
- 14:02That's really hot for this time of year. We are not used to
- 14:05seeing this on a regular basis. We barely had a winter last
- 14:09year. I don't know what this winter is going to be like, if we're going to get more snow, less
- 14:12snow, cold, or even just mild temperatures as we did before. A
- 14:17lot of it's up in the air. And the thing is, no matter what, it's
- 14:20going to test our infrastructure. Not only in Ontario, but
- 14:24across the Midwest, and across the United States, across
- 14:27Canada, down into the southern United States, especially where they
- 14:30get these hurricanes, there's going to be more and more damage. and people are
- 14:34not necessarily leaving their homes. There are a lot of videos of people staying
- 14:38on boats and things like that, and that boat's going to get capsized at
- 14:41one point. At one point before the
- 14:44hurricane even came in during the day, there was a rescue for
- 14:48an emergency that a man and his dog were in the actual water. They
- 14:51had to abandon their sailboat because they're in these massive waves. and
- 14:54their boat was basically just couldn't go anywhere, it was just stuck,
- 14:58it was isolated and they just couldn't move and they were afraid, they couldn't get
- 15:01out of the, they couldn't get to shore and they had to, you know, there's video,
- 15:05harrowing videos of these rescuers, you know, saving
- 15:08the person and the dog. And to be honest, like what are they doing out there in
- 15:12the first place? I don't know how they got out there or if they did that
- 15:15on purpose, but that's a danger, right? You know, I'm a dog lover. Nobody
- 15:18wants to see dog die. Nobody wants to see their owner die either. They
- 15:22put themselves at risk just by being out there, whether it was on purpose or not,
- 15:26I don't know. So I don't want to make assumptions, but that's, that's, that's taking
- 15:29resources away to save those people because they have, They
- 15:33have to save that person, excuse me. But also, that's
- 15:36taking time away from going elsewhere and saving anybody else,
- 15:40right? So things move fast. And case
- 15:43in point, there was a video on Fox News. The guy was on live, the
- 15:47reporter. There was water behind him. Classic shot
- 15:50in a hurricane. There was a car that was almost submerged.
- 15:54You can almost just see the top of the window and the
- 15:57roof. And then you hear someone saying, help me, help me, help me. And
- 16:00the reporter said, we've called 911. should be here any minute,
- 16:04told the reporter that he was talking to, the anchor that he was
- 16:07talking to, that they've called 911. But then he finally just said, you know what, I
- 16:10gotta do something. And he hurriedly walked into the
- 16:13water. You don't know what the current is like. Walked into the water, got
- 16:17the woman out, carried the woman all the way to safety, thank
- 16:20God, and then went back and did his reporting. Emergency
- 16:25services can't get everywhere all the time. And by staying in
- 16:28those areas, which is risky, you want to have a
- 16:32service or something that can actually try and predict these things faster,
- 16:36that people can tune into. It's going to be extremely important in
- 16:40the future when you have you know, rapidly growing hurricanes.
- 16:44You have more water in these hurricanes, so more flooding available
- 16:48in these hurricanes, lack of infrastructure, right? And then lack
- 16:51of action. Florida has a governor who's not taking any
- 16:54action against climate change and has removed the word climate change from all
- 16:58of their policies. They've gone in the opposite direction and
- 17:02the people are paying for it. The people are paying for it. The people who vote them
- 17:05in are paying for it, but also the people who didn't vote for them, they're paying for it as well. And
- 17:09Florida is predicted by the IPCC to go underwater, half
- 17:13of it to go underwater at some point in the future, whether it's 2050 or
- 17:17not. And people aren't believing it. The IPCC was right when they said, hey,
- 17:20clouds are going to hold more water. It's science, folks. This is what's
- 17:23happening. And we're fighting against governors and
- 17:27politicians who are denying this. They're getting paid by fossil fuel
- 17:31companies and super PACs that are funded by
- 17:34these fossil fuel companies to say, hey, you know what? There's nothing we can really
- 17:37do. But people are losing their lives. People are losing their homes, their
- 17:41livelihoods. It's going to take a long time to recover from this.
- 17:44And the amount of money that has to go into the recovery and
- 17:48cleanup of this mess, it's insane. It's
- 17:51an insane amount. And I'm working on a story now to look at the
- 17:54actual coverages of like the amount of money that it takes to do
- 17:58this. But this is insane to see this
- 18:01on a, you know, this is going to be regular happenings from now on, these
- 18:04intensified storms, right? And whether they're category one
- 18:07or category four, you're still going to get the same amount of rain. Right? And
- 18:11so that's the concern. And with climate change
- 18:15continuing to affect and influence our weather systems, we
- 18:18are going to see these storms continue to happen. And that is
- 18:22scary in itself. Right? But I
- 18:25don't want you to think that we're done, for this is going to
- 18:28be it. This is going to be it. There is hope. There is optimism. There are people out
- 18:32there, there are politicians out there who want to do something about climate change. It's
- 18:35a matter of can we vote them in? At some
- 18:39point, The work for climate adaptation, the
- 18:42work for reducing the emissions that will affect climate change will
- 18:46come into play because it's going to affect our economy. I know politicians normally
- 18:50focus more on economy versus the environment, so
- 18:53we have to fund to maintain the economy, but that means a lot of times
- 18:56that we don't fund environmental practice. At some point, those
- 19:00two are going to come together and the environment is going to affect the economy as it's
- 19:03doing in Florida, as it did in Georgia, as it did in North Carolina.
- 19:08By these major floods, it takes money to clean
- 19:11this stuff up. It takes money to adapt. And eventually, that
- 19:15money is going to affect our economy. It could be already. That's
- 19:18the story I'm working on. So hopefully, I'll be able to have something for you soon. But
- 19:22this is a huge, huge problem. And it's not something that
- 19:25we need to turn a blind eye to. So
- 19:29sorry for this Monday episode being a little bit pessimistic, but
- 19:33sometimes we have to talk about these things. And the hope that I have is
- 19:37that we can actually take care of this. We can actually help the people
- 19:40in Florida, help the people in Georgia, help people in North Carolina and elsewhere,
- 19:44so that we don't have to go through this in the future. All we have to do is just reduce
- 19:47emissions. Just reduce emissions. As complex as
- 19:50it is, it's not difficult to do. We just need to have the people
- 19:54in power to actually do that. And that's up to us to vote. There are major
- 19:57elections coming up in the US, and there's going to be some major elections coming up
- 20:01in Canada. And it's up to us here in North America to
- 20:04help make sure these politicians get into power.
- 20:08So ask people about their climate change policies if they come around to your door. They
- 20:13should be answering. If they don't have an answer, they don't have a plan, they
- 20:16should not be in power. They should
- 20:20not get your vote, in my opinion. For this audience, climate change is
- 20:23a big deal, and I think we need to hold our
- 20:27politicians accountable for that. We need to act faster, because we're
- 20:31not only seeing these problems happen, now it's starting
- 20:35to get regular occurrence, and we can't get used to this. There's just too much
- 20:38money involved, the livelihoods of people, people's lives involved,
- 20:42and we just don't want to see this happen again. So let's
- 20:45get on it. Let's get out and vote. You know, register to vote if you
- 20:48if you're able to register to vote and vote wherever you can and
- 20:52however you can. All right. Only once, of course, but vote. That's
- 20:55it for today's episode. If you have any questions or comments on this episode or if
- 20:59you've been in the areas or you know of any crowdfunding
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