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ABJ Podcast Ep 68 Prince Ahmed · ABJ

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  What is going on everybody? We are back for another episode
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  of the a BJ podcast. Episode 68 closing in on 70.
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  We do have two more episodes this month.
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  We do have extra episode 69 with eight SI Lok and then we have
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  the episode with Nubian bear. The local rapper from Pottsville
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  that. I talked to that have.
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  Well that's one has been pre-recorded with the new setup
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  so I can't wait for everyone to kind of see it.
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  There still more, I want to do with it.
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  Hopefully, I can get two or three more cameras, but it
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  looking like maybe the month of July And maybe August we might
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  might I still try to like mull it over my brain but we might
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  take off a little bit for the podcast.
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  I have a lot going on my personal life.
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  New job changes, new things going on.
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  So I may have to step away from content creating for a while
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  because I like I said I do have a lot.
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  I want to talk about but it's just kind of been really, really
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  tough so kind of keeping it close to the chest for a while.
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  But pretty soon we'll all be able to speak and and let my
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  feelings out and talk about everything.
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  It's nothing bad, nothing, hateful.
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  But it's just been really tough for you boy.
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  already had feedback from the last episode with rocket.
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  I'm actually going to pull that up right now and it was.
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  forward to having rocket back as well.
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  So it's not just talk wrestling but talk about their interests
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  and passions outside of that. So though, Yeah and also
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  Instagram last plug-in. We're done I swear I can bring
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  my guest in but last Vlog over on Instagram I was able to
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  create a channel that channel is going to be a good way to join
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  and find out all things a BJ and new content coming out.
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  So without further Ado let me bring in my guess the the
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  Egyptian torture expert I seen this guy here in sanctuary who
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  is from the moment I watched him wrestle, I fell in love with the
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  style fell in love with the character, then meeting him as a
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  person has been amazing. And a lot of people have had a A
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  chance to meet Ahmed, as the person they've met Prince.
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  Ahmed, the character and one of two people are getting this
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  interview and I'm very thankful, I'm one of them.
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  So you guys getting to meet Prince Ahmed here today out of
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  character, which is I, very thankful for that.
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  That, you know, he has the the the trust in me to step out of
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  that comfort zone and and speak to you guys as The Listener and
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  give you this full in-depth thing because I'm telling you,
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  he's one of those guys just like rocket that, I think it's only a
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  matter of time. We're seeing him on TV.
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  And he's just that talented, and has a great story and great
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  Passion loves his business, and he's so Innovative of whatever
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  thing he does. So I let's bring him in.
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  Without further Ado, the one, the only Prince Ahmed Let's go.
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  Thank you. Thank you so much for all the
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  great things you said well it listen, I my commentary, I've
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  said this plenty of times in the podcast would be nothing without
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  the sanctuary and the Reps of that first season, I got with
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  Pete and and the that Walker Clan taking over the sanctuary
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  storyline was just such a. It was so easy for someone like
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  me to step in and do because you guys told a story without even.
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  And me having notes or having any prep to go in to do any of
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  that, it was just talk about what you see and you guys were
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  so good at not just doing the art of wrestling, but preparing
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  that story. So we can tell it a lot of
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  people think, but one commentary goes to a show.
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  We get all these notes and prep and all this stuff and you don't
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  and it's either you walk up to the town and get it yourself.
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  Are you just come up with it on the Fly?
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  And a lot of it was a little bit of both.
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  And I felt like we all meshed very well that you guys
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  respected us for giving us all. Yeah.
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  He only has any one time. Yeah.
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  I got the very beginning and ever, since has it all.
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  He's fucking beautiful, do whatever you want.
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  Brother. I trust you.
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  One of the big things that I get for your character, that I kind
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  of pull from on commentary. And I'm not sure if you, if
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  you're even aware of this, or if we talked about it, but I'm a
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  huge fan of the video game, Assassin's Creed.
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  No, I didn't. I didn't know if they think so
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  in the, in the, in the video game Assassin's Creed, when the
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  Assassins have this, they have this Vision.
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  They like, they can see things, other people can't see and the
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  one of the things they see is like a weakness on somebody or a
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  hurt on somebody. So when they see the body they
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  see like almost like a video game.
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  You see like the red limb that's hurting?
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  Are my Tarts damaged? Are they like know where the
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  person's weaknesses are? They can study the person and
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  see like it's like Batman vision and that's exactly what I
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  portray. When I talk about you on
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  commentary because you start a match, you start off very you
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  know in the same way as everybody else.
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  But then you pick a part of limb and you pick apart someone's and
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  then every single move that comes after that is focused on
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  that one. Limb like it.
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  Look, maybe you made look like you're going for a suplex and
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  you can work in the like the whole time and you'll drop them
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  down and then go right into a leg bar.
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  Like it's like I already bar something and it's, yeah, off of
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  the Dome, and that's where I pull that because like the
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  Assassin's Creed games have the game where it was in Egypt and
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  the Middle East and all those like different Vibes.
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  And like, Eagle and like using that culture into it to and I
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  was so that was like we're a lot where I pull my ideas, for your
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  account, your character on comment.
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  I also love everything you say, I'll I really do.
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  I'm a big fan of you, especially you and Peter and Brian's doing
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  a hell of a job to see what you got.
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  I think you're the most, I think you watch my matches the most so
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  I'm like oh he knows everything about me, I don't need this
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  shit, he just gets it. Some people I would I will like
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  trust without knowing them and they kind of mess it up.
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  They don't really understand the story but what use every time I
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  don't need to To worry. I know he will figure it out.
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  Five years. Some to do a neck.
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  He knows it's the neck by go man army.
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  Oh, he knows. Yeah, right, this cool shit to
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  call. This is I'm very thankful for
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  you make my matches ten times better honestly, am I.
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  Yeah. And that's that's that's a huge
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  compliment coming from you because your match is already or
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  top-notch. So if you feel like I had a lot.
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  So so, when did you fall in love with the what this world and
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  Industry of professional wrestling.
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  So, with me, like I kind of grew up in the like I don't remember
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  my first time watching Just remember I grew into it.
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  Like, my brother was a big like wrestling fan, but when we lived
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  in Egypt, my dad used to send us, like, this tape stressing
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  tapes, every six months, whatever when he comes to you,
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  Jill said he will come with, takes Oreo, send it if he didn't
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  come this year. So my brother will be the one
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  who you gotta like this guy. God, I hate this guy.
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  Well, that's all he. All my knowledge came from my
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  older brothers. I don't really remember the
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  first time I watched us and he just has always been part of my
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  life and kind of follow your family.
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  Would your family, your you grew up in Egypt Ripped.
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  So your family would go and then get Wrestling tapes and bring
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  them back for you to watch. Yes, that's accurate - that's
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  awesome. Oh yeah.
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  Like all the stuff I have. Get my I'll get my updates.
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  Like every six months, you'll be a store Line work.
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  And did you see his like, oh shit, what happened here?
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  Oh no, so cool, his heels out like oh, what happened?
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  You know? So my dad, my dad didn't know
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  better than God bless you. We just get a lot of them.
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  She W tapes, a lot of the residual you type.
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  So I grew up on like a 0 and d zp and all these guys.
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  It's awesome. So it was that, was it something
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  that was accepted in the house or was rustling like you had to
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  like oh yeah, Grandma are down here and I got like you solve a
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  17-2 taping and she can start calling the devil.
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  Yeah, she thought the way the white paint was like she thought
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  that was actually his face, you know?
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  Yeah, so when I met him later, like years later, was it meant a
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  lot to me though, how much of that of the culture in Egypt and
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  stuff like that? What was wrestling a part of?
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  Like, it was something that no one really knew.
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  Knew about or were you kind of like the only one that was like
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  on to something that no one else did when I was a kid?
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  Yeah, I was kind of the only one that's on that path and maybe
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  like one or because it there weren't really like shown
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  resting on, on TV like Ross, that they were just like show
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  matches every now and then. So I was kind of the only one
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  who had like tapes and shit until like, there's one guy, who
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  is a mom? Don't forgive you.
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  He said, you used to be a wrestler, maybe it was, I don't
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  know, but he used. He has his own like TV program
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  and he got huge afterwards, you called every move.
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  But God bless him, he tried killed every month, like DDT
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  every move like DDT, a chokeslam, and making shit up.
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  Yeah, but he was the only source of rustling.
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  So everybody watch him after that kind of got bigger, it kind
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  of, It kind of puts in perspective.
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  Like, I know we talked about a lot like with the like, the
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  Crown Jewel events and a lot of people have their opinions on
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  the next opinions on it, but like I watch it and then you see
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  like the kids in the crowd and then like hearing stories.
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  Like you just said like that's important for like, oh I'm
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  squeezing over there and like Like to kind of bring like
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  groundbreaking things that's never happened.
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  I country like women wrestling, and stuff like that, it's super
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  important. It's cool that wrestling can
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  cross that barrier as an art to help people see different
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  cultures than yeah. It's very huge like, outside of
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  America, the my dad, because my dad lived in Saudi before he
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  went to America. And he said, like, I think it
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  was like every Wednesday. They will have, they will put
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  like this big screen in the in the street and they're just
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  stream rustling on it. Some people just like go and
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  watch. So it's very big might like we
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  didn't have like the The Source, you know, like to like Monday
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  Night Raw, like three hours and I think now is different, when
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  I'm before I came to America a couple of years, they will only
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  stream, like, it was a week behind, and it was like and
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  maybe hour and a half of raw. So there's a lot of trust out of
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  it. Yeah.
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  So you're missing a lot when you're gone.
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  When did you, when did you Transit?
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  Well, growing up going to the tapes and stuff you said, like
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  you watch a lot of those guys, but who's someone that stuck out
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  to you? That was like your favorite
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  growing up. It was dp/dt.
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  P DP. He was my favorite because
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  obviously was like, rockets local.
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  But I have like, my by told you like I like them ECW tapes.
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  Uh-huh. And one of the reasons why
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  because my brother had this weird philosophy.
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  My older, if he likes the rock I can like him.
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  Got to go for Triple H, if you like look so good.
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  You gotta go for even with soccer, too.
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  You always make me go with the other team so we obviously don't
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  remember my dad. Like he bought like these two
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  action figures and send it to it was thing and DDP and of course
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  I want sting. And but Mulder was here not on
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  our you take DD feels like no, but I want to say and he felt
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  bad that he took, sting that, he's like start selling me on
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  DDP. Is it go?
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  He beat this heavy and he showed the Metro Bret Hart and I didn't
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  know Bret Hart was a total. He was a big deal in wwwf at the
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  time. He beat Shawn Michaels and he
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  was a champion. So after the okay, and I love
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  the song. And after that, as he made me a
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  fan of these days, I just it's funny.
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  I growing up I didn't like dubstep.
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  I felt if you were over there you were a traitor and I
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  wouldn't watch It's strictly a w kid but DDP was the only guy
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  that I would like go in and tune because I loved when it was like
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  DDP verse, the world like DDP verse the flock, wo what I was
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  like oh this guy's awesome. And then like learning his story
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  later about how late he came in today, I even me in this
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  podcast, something like, who's gonna who's gonna sign on and
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  watch and support a thirtysomething year-old Flight,
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  37 year-old podcast, or my go DDP didn't even start chokeslam
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  and people until he was in his late 30s.
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  Yeah. Absolutely.
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  It's now and he's Conic and he's getting.
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  So he's a huge inspiration. I love DD hundred percent 100%.
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  Yeah. So when did you make that
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  transition to say like hey I want to do this and I want to
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  chase this dream and I want to become a professional wrestler.
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  And how did that come about? Like I always had the dream of
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  being a professional wrestler but living in Egypt.
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  Like we don't have wrestling skills, we'd have nothing sells.
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  Like I kind of went to the wrestler like, you know, route,
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  my older brother is a dentist. I was like, okay, I'll be I'll
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  go to or on the Internet. From school too.
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  And once I went there and it was like my first year ever being by
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  myself and I couple of near death experience had to me and
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  like every time I'm like fuck, man.
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  Like I kind of don't want to be a dentist like, and that was the
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  first time you ever kind of live by yourself and making your own
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  decisions. Yeah.
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  Now, are you dentist in Egypt, at this point?
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  Or did you come out? And I just would like, a year.
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  I was in Egypt. Okay.
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  I was just afraid my first year, and I had like, very bad, like
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  food, food poisoning and I lived in this kind of ghost town that
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  we just want to college. Was that, So it took us forever
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  to find like a doctor and he came gave me a shot last minute
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  and he, and the next day in college, I just like kind of
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  crumbled and doctors, did they kind of put me in the the clinic
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  there? And they told him you were very
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  close of passing away. And when I was just sitting here
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  and they gave me like the rest of the day on this whole, you
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  can sleep here if you want. And I slept and I was just
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  saying I'm not hosting the clinic by myself was like man if
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  I would have passed away like I would not be happy.
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  I don't really want to be a dentist, my heart.
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  I want to, I feel like there's something more.
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  God bless everybody. One who was trying to do the
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  right thing, you know. And how about for me is like, I
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  mean, I don't want to feel like a zombie, I don't want to just
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  go to college, so I can get a job.
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  So I can find a wife and have nothing wrong with that.
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  Eventually do want, but like in my heart like fuck, man.
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  I kind of want kind of want more.
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  Yeah, I know after after that, like I just say, you know what?
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  Fuck it I'm gonna just I'm I'm gonna go for it.
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  It took me forever to come here to.
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  How what that's the my next question is, like people think
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  when somebody from another country wants to come here, the
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  like do it the right way, do it. You know?
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  I mean like but you know what is that process?
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  Like you said it took you a long time, Hasselhoff you had family
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  who lived in the state's. You were saying.
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  Well yeah my my my dad and stuff.
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  Yeah. So it made it a little bit
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  easier because they had the American passport and all the
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  stuff my dad. Yeah.
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  Citizen about for me, it took me like I think like two years and
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  I live in a different city to live in a city called more say
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  than English port side. So I had to travel almost like
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  three days, three, four days a week or have to go to Cairo.
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  Try to finish some paperwork, come back, go back, go to work.
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  Work and all that should save money and try to do both.
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  You know, I think it was like two years of like kind of
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  non-stop every week. I will go travel like three,
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  four hours to Cairo, try to finish it.
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  Come back, catch the last bus, you know?
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  Yeah. So now when you, when you knew
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  you were coming to America, did you know that you were coming to
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  New York? Like was that like the landing
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  spot? Yeah.
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  I--'cause my dad lived in New York and I was like, okay, far
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  who trains in New York and I thought looking all these
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  schools and I found like Jonny as I, okay?
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  And I Come back all my day. At that time didn't really know,
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  he know, like something was up with me, you know, like I wanted
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  to to lead to come to America but he didn't really know why.
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  Andy was, I don't do you live in Brooklyn.
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  So yeah, why are they are? Just ask it.
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  I'm just trying to like pinpoint.
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  Okay, where can I go? Where you go?
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  How could I find? This is Gleason's gym.
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  They talked about enough. So maybe those, he just gazed a
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  graze over it because to him, it's second nature.
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  But to us, Wrestling, Mark. He signed my Johnny, Rodz that
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  would be Hall of Fame. Emer and Gleason's Gym in
• 17:44
  Brooklyn, New York city. So not only did he leave the
• 17:47
  country but but he landed in one of the most badass places of all
• 17:50
  it's how I make the right choice even though he's kind of a
• 17:55
  fluke. But I made the right choice.
• 17:57
  Yeah, and like I said, there's a lot.
• 17:58
  You could have landed on their man.
• 18:00
  New York is a really cool scene for professional wrestling.
• 18:03
  This whole Northeast man, Pennsylvania, New York, New
• 18:05
  Jersey and in even up like Boston and stuff, man, there's
• 18:08
  so much cool iconic places. Wrestling.
• 18:14
  So yeah. So you you get to America.
• 18:16
  Did you ride away? Jump and go to the gym and go
• 18:19
  talk to people. It took me a little bit yet.
• 18:22
  You just trying to figure stuff out, didn't like I went, I'm
• 18:25
  about to talk to Johnny, I think I was, I was like three months
• 18:28
  in or something like in America was just trying to figure.
• 18:31
  Should I when I went and talked to him?
• 18:33
  Yeah. And I told him the story at
• 18:34
  first like, really. So you came you came from a from
• 18:39
  Egypt to do the show. Oh I wouldn't have done that
• 18:43
  like a fuck, really? And that's it.
• 18:45
  He said that like first thing he told him like I felt deflated
• 18:48
  like yeah like almost like 23 years to come here man.
• 18:51
  Like fuck you're like I'm gonna love it there's like yeah you
• 18:55
  realize you don't make any money and rest.
• 18:57
  Yeah, yeah exactly. And he told me the price he
• 19:03
  didn't like later on. I found out he'd give people
• 19:05
  like right, like he could work with you but I think he didn't
• 19:08
  take me serious heat that he told me after he.
• 19:09
  Like I didn't expect you to come back.
• 19:11
  So you just The full price and I'm could I work with something.
• 19:14
  I think I came with a mirror. I know that has like, from the
• 19:17
  money. I saved in Egypt, like 300 bucks
• 19:19
  or something. I don't have much, you know, and
• 19:23
  I told him there's like 30, no party.
• 19:25
  Like we give me the whole money. Then we'll talk.
• 19:27
  Oh my God. Fuck.
• 19:28
  So it took me a little bit to get that money and when I showed
• 19:32
  up there and I reminded myself, is it?
• 19:35
  Oh she you came back. Oh, oh, okay, I didn't expect
• 19:38
  you to come back bar. Alright, yeah, fuck yeah.
• 19:43
  So what you pay your money, you get in there, you get the first
• 19:46
  time of of doing that. Now when you transition I know
• 19:50
  you do the dentist thing and everything like that, but where
• 19:53
  you at you're athletic. Did you play sports growing up
• 19:55
  in Egypt? Yeah, I used to play a lot of
• 19:57
  soccer, a lot of football and stuff.
• 19:59
  So it was I was always I was always skinny but I'm super
• 20:02
  scared but I was I was always active in some kind of like ice
• 20:06
  to fool people. Like they would think oh this
• 20:07
  Gonna Kiss Defender to just a tough position in soccer.
• 20:11
  Now just comes out. Going to I love Defender.
• 20:13
  That's all me to my brother. Taught me, everything about it.
• 20:15
  So I knew that I used to make me feel all the rows like I do like
• 20:18
  he's like three. Four years older than me.
• 20:19
  He used to take me play with them so they kind of rough me
• 20:22
  up. So when I go back to my same
• 20:24
  age, I'm like too big. I'm not too big.
• 20:26
  I'm too strong for them. You're too aggressive him.
• 20:28
  Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
• 20:30
  It's like I was also on the field, but I had the best
• 20:32
  clearing ball and I was just a psycho.
• 20:34
  Nice. Yeah.
• 20:35
  And I actually started playing goalie but I would get so bored
• 20:38
  that they would like take me out.
• 20:40
  Like they wouldn't let me play goal anymore.
• 20:42
  One game, my mom was my coach, it's so funny.
• 20:45
  And I took the ball and this is when you're like playing Youth
• 20:47
  and he only had half the feel, so they put like a makeshift
• 20:49
  guy, the other side. So I literally took the ball and
• 20:52
  ever, you know how everyone be hived when your first day as a
• 20:54
  kid? So I as a kid, I understood like
• 20:57
  the game and I would say like yeah, okay, spread out.
• 21:00
  So everyone got the ball here and I took the ball and ran
• 21:03
  across to this other field and dropped it and ran up the other
• 21:05
  side of the hose and scored as a goalie.
• 21:08
  And my mom just like stop doing that.
• 21:11
  I went Kelly made me a Defender. Yeah, Defender.
• 21:15
  Our Midfield was my thing and get out.
• 21:16
  That's what I played. I coached for a long time, too.
• 21:18
  I let's go before coat. But before getting into this
• 21:22
  content space, do you still watch it though?
• 21:24
  I don't watch this much, I don't have life, I don't have cable or
• 21:27
  tell alive television so I don't get to watch it as much as I
• 21:30
  would like to and and most of my life is consuming professional
• 21:33
  wrestling right now. So I can if I have time to watch
• 21:36
  something. It's nine times Outta ten.
• 21:37
  Yeah. Well, I'm trying to watch
• 21:39
  absolutely who's your team like if you had to pick.
• 21:42
  My team is the my favorite thing is AC Milan.
• 21:44
  Okay. From Italy and then like
• 21:45
  Barcelona, of course, location. I always picked Manchester
• 21:49
  United just because it was really.
• 21:52
  They got the most Air Time in America, the popular.
• 21:55
  And I like Wayne Rooney. I really liked and I am L going.
• 21:58
  Yeah, MLS he actually came over to d.c.
• 22:00
  United and I follow all the DC team.
• 22:02
  So then I got to go see him live in DC, which was awesome.
• 22:06
  And he was going to say schools in America Rose, like he's
• 22:08
  playing by myself, pretty much, it was great.
• 22:12
  Um yeah. So how much of your training of
• 22:15
  soccer and everything and being active helped?
• 22:17
  You are did not help you being a professional wrestler.
• 22:21
  So I played soccer but I didn't know okay with that.
• 22:24
  Is that going to help me out or any?
• 22:25
  I didn't know if I was athletic or not because that's just
• 22:28
  everybody's kind of the same ball.
• 22:29
  Never actually my first actually one of my first people I met in
• 22:33
  Gleason was Masha was Annie really L.
• 22:36
  Yeah, under that, she's the first person that made me roll
• 22:38
  and I threw up right after. I'm a huge.
• 22:42
  Huge Mark for her I think she loved it so I threw up and I was
• 22:49
  so new to the country. I don't know what that was.
• 22:51
  Is there alcohol in it? What is that?
• 23:12
  Athletic I'm like oh am I? I don't know.
• 23:14
  So I think I will kind of quit that through to playing soccer
• 23:18
  and always being kind of like, well my mom used to make us very
• 23:21
  active when we were kids. Yeah.
• 23:22
  Actually used to make us. Go play soccer.
• 23:24
  Is to make this play? Could do karate.
• 23:26
  I was like a blue belt. In karate - get the fuck out of
• 23:29
  me. He was a good coach.
• 23:30
  I love him though. Yeah.
• 23:32
  And I totally like ping-pong for a little bit and like, tennis.
• 23:34
  So I was kind of always ask about soccer was my main thing.
• 23:37
  Yeah. It always kind of acting.
• 23:38
  I was a kid. So how was the first couple
• 23:40
  months doing but um, since Stuff that was there ever a point of
• 23:44
  the three years of grinding to get to this country and watching
• 23:47
  the tapes and consuming the wrestling, and then you finally
• 23:49
  get in there and you're taking the bumps and you're getting
• 23:51
  stretched out that your life on Earth set?
• 23:53
  Was there ever a moment of like I don't think this is for me or
• 23:55
  were you just always determined it was in my head like I took
• 24:00
  the first bump, like it's death ring of Johnny's that he has.
• 24:03
  Yeah, I'm like how the hell did the people think suplex is this
• 24:06
  shit? We've been through so much that
• 24:13
  we just gotta, we gotta tough it out, its own miles.
• 24:16
  Like I am I going to be able to do this because you know we
• 24:18
  don't know if you ever see me like I'm pretty sure you've seen
• 24:20
  the way I hit the ropes. So the old school of yet, we
• 24:22
  your side. Yep.
• 24:24
  And we and they have like, at that time they had like cables
• 24:27
  cables so that she will like fuck you side up.
• 24:29
  Yeah. I'll be just be kind of hunched
• 24:31
  in. And then taking the bumps I was
• 24:32
  like I'll be it up and now my hands like fuck am I really
• 24:36
  going to be able to do this? You know.
• 24:38
  And but then my second voice is like, oh man, we've been In
• 24:42
  through a lot bro you gave up everything.
• 24:44
  Fuck you PJ one of my favorite. We done so much for me man.
• 24:53
  So much for me. I could have like three episodes
• 24:56
  just about PJ. He's a great dude man.
• 24:59
  Same with me. One of my first jobs outside of
• 25:02
  sanctuary was in New Jersey and a huge part of that I found out
• 25:06
  later on this, PJ put the word and said like you know he met me
• 25:09
  he gave me my first match with Johnny, he gave me First like
• 25:13
  belt, which I, he made me the first Champion world champion,
• 25:16
  got all that is because of PJ like he and he actually is the
• 25:19
  one of the reason why I shifted to that style that you see today
• 25:22
  is because at first I was kind of Luchador because that's how
• 25:26
  we when it first broke in the they were doing a lot of
• 25:29
  literature shows, I don't know. We just got sucked into the
• 25:31
  Luchador mindset, just fingers, all that shit.
• 25:34
  And then like PJ one time. He he told me.
• 25:37
  Amen. If you want to be like a main
• 25:38
  eventer or like be taken, seriously, you gotta switch that
• 25:41
  style. Is that really?
• 25:42
  Yeah. Because like they're looking at
• 25:44
  that time, of course, we just like, husband the top guy there.
• 25:47
  So they're looking for a heel and like, if you just work, more
• 25:52
  like ground, have a ground game and just be more, I don't know,
• 25:56
  like a cowboy. That's what he kind of said,
• 25:58
  just being more Cowboy, like, you would be in a different
• 26:01
  level. And once I did, that actually
• 26:02
  felt the difference on, say my style.
• 26:06
  I feel like because I'm not that athletic, like to just be doing
• 26:10
  all that shit all the time, you know?
• 26:12
  I got a thing as you and Johnny Coming to America is very
• 26:15
  similar, although that's true though.
• 26:18
  Yeah, Johnny stories were work. So Johnny's been to a lot of
• 26:21
  shit. Yeah, exid L feel like a
• 26:25
  sausage. I'll sneak this one in here
• 26:26
  because it is a great question. Hunter.
• 26:27
  Dylan said what are some major differences between the Egyptian
• 26:30
  culture in the American culture, they fear the most fascinating
• 26:34
  Hmm, that's processed foods. I thought you guys would be more
• 26:40
  free to be honest with you. Do you see?
• 26:42
  Cuz you see all that stuff like land of the free and all that
• 26:44
  shit. Didn't you come here?
• 26:45
  Like, you can't do shit. Yeah, baby.
• 26:48
  Yeah, you can't, like, I used to have so much fun back home, you
• 26:51
  know. We do some stupid shit.
• 26:53
  All the time. Didn't you come here?
• 26:54
  Like, oh, I could do whatever I want.
• 26:57
  There's a lot of roles. Oh yeah, you can't do shit.
• 27:34
  As of your of your training, you kind of threw some names up
• 27:36
  there with PJ and Masha, as well as cowboy cowboy.
• 27:40
  Yeah, Cowboys my God, I love Cowboy.
• 27:45
  I really do, man. He is, he the one that
• 27:47
  transformed me from the Lucha to the Morton, Matt technician.
• 27:50
  Yeah, 100%. Because he, when we first
• 27:53
  started, like I remember, I said, like, I saw all right.
• 27:55
  Didn't we start doing these shows?
• 27:56
  And they thought me and Jacob, we're kind of.
• 27:58
  All right? So they just they picked me and
• 28:00
  Jacob Scott, do a looter shit and we could do springboards and
• 28:03
  Lou Charmed. Eggs and lock up.
• 28:05
  Like the couch away. All the stuff, but you told us
• 28:07
  to take like a hip toss or snapmare we like crash.
• 28:10
  Aw, what? Oh, yeah.
• 28:12
  Yeah. Like we don't know.
• 28:13
  Like and then like cowboy one day.
• 28:14
  Like he just got Saturday. That's the day cowboy.
• 28:17
  Who show up. And then you could, you could
• 28:20
  tell everybody just got sphere this into their hearts, I go.
• 28:23
  What is he gonna do to see you? Do you put on this mask and just
• 28:27
  called and just not even speak? Just like point of view you get
• 28:30
  in the ring and he stretches the fuck out of here.
• 28:33
  I'd beat the hell out of here. He go over it.
• 28:35
  So you go for hours, right? Like if you go for hours, God
• 28:38
  bless him. He would like he will beat the
• 28:40
  hell out of. You didn't like he will let you
• 28:42
  tag. Then Bubba blood didn't go back
• 28:44
  to you again. But the second time he goes, he
• 28:46
  will work everything he did. So let's say put like a shoot
• 28:49
  wrist lock on you. Yeah, the second time you tag
• 28:52
  in, he do it work super, you barely feel him.
• 28:56
  I see how you gonna react, How You Gonna sell and now, just and
• 28:59
  I sold that same way that when it was really apply to me and
• 29:03
  he's ever since he's Ben. You barely feel.
• 29:06
  Yeah. Then you could tell the other
• 29:07
  guys who don't know how to sell it.
• 29:09
  He goes back to shooting on there.
• 29:10
  Yeah that's pretty but like he's trying to really show him
• 29:13
  feeling so you know how to sell it.
• 29:14
  Yeah absolutely. And that's really helped me out
• 29:16
  a lot and then right right after that and he just kind of brought
• 29:19
  me to the side as I can't come more like and he cowboy hat his
• 29:23
  own days this Cowboy kids like the Sunday, he invited me one
• 29:26
  day and ever since that the first Sunday they invited me in.
• 29:29
  I was okay, like I said to him cowboy.
• 29:31
  Oh 100%, he taught me. A lot all the faces.
• 29:34
  All the twists you see so Cowboy?
• 29:36
  Yeah. Cowboy.
• 29:37
  Like I called my stars is cowboy style, but just I put my little,
• 29:42
  my little, my little touch on it, you know.
• 29:44
  Yeah. Now you said you and Jocko have
• 29:46
  you guys wrestled. How many matches have you guys
• 29:48
  wrestled since transitioning to your new Styles together like
• 29:52
  each other? Yeah each other we only rustled
• 29:55
  in one mesh. It was a three-way the slough
• 29:57
  that was like in Gleason's, not had a one-on-one match and how
• 30:01
  long ago was that Four years ago.
• 30:06
  So like this, if you are in the New Jersey area.
• 30:09
  Yeah, Ridgefield Park. It's gonna happen.
• 30:13
  It is. Invictus @fw show north northern
• 30:17
  Conquest. You guys are going to square up
• 30:19
  again, to walk us through that. What does it mean for a matchup?
• 30:22
  Do this means the world brother this match.
• 30:24
  I wanted me and him wanted since we joined John and the only
• 30:27
  every time I almost happens, but it never does almost having
• 30:31
  that's why he just sent me a message, right before I got
• 30:33
  into, I'm sorry if I'm screaming.
• 30:34
  Much better now. You're good.
• 30:35
  I detach it. I love it.
• 30:37
  I love you. Eddie told me.
• 30:38
  He told me like I still can't believe it's real because I
• 30:41
  still can't believe because we have been talking about it for a
• 30:43
  little bit and they kind of give us the hints, they might happen,
• 30:46
  but then once I saw, I'll accept the chosen shows like yeah.
• 30:49
  You and Jacqueline in two weeks or something.
• 30:52
  Sure. Really.
• 30:53
  And I told her this is going to be either the best match you
• 30:55
  ever seen in your life. I thought I was gonna be one of
• 30:57
  the worst ones you ever seen in your life.
• 31:00
  Either way, I don't give a fuck. I'm gonna go out there and just
• 31:02
  how much longer I'm gonna bring back.
• 31:04
  Huh, how much longer are you going to be back?
• 31:06
  You gotta watch. You want to watch this match?
• 31:08
  Yeah, I'm gonna check it out. He's gonna be stupid.
• 31:12
  That's all. So, we got a request in the
• 31:15
  chat. I was told I got, we got to hear
• 31:17
  the popcorn story, popcorn story.
• 31:22
  What are you talking about? He said there's a popcorn story.
• 31:26
  Remember that. All right.
• 31:28
  Welcome, maybe, maybe if he can give you more contact.
• 31:30
  All baby. I think maybe what I found out
• 31:34
  the first time that you guys have like packets.
• 31:37
  Okay, and I didn't know about that and they blew my mind.
• 31:40
  I'm gonna be here. Just now I do remember Peter was
• 31:42
  just talking about that way. You don't have to get like the
• 31:45
  corn thing and put the oil on. It depends like what the fuck.
• 31:48
  Are you talking about it? This is a kid.
• 31:49
  They just put it in there. Just this popcorn you really
• 31:52
  blew my mind. I didn't know nothing about Now
• 32:03
  I'm so upset. I won't be there to see that
• 32:04
  match. I'll be at, I'll be a preacher's
• 32:06
  funeral. Oh, I'm sorry.
• 32:09
  Yeah, sorry to hear that. What?
• 32:10
  Uh, we're if does their matches are they available online?
• 32:15
  Like, after it airs, like is there somewhere to hold out that
• 32:17
  I think they're gonna post it on YouTube?
• 32:19
  I know it was supposed to be on the, the main like IW TV show
• 32:23
  but that's not his general fund. Raiser.
• 32:25
  I'm so sorry. It's a funeral.
• 32:27
  I'm an idiot. You go brother, I'm already
• 32:31
  going again. But like, I think it's going to
• 32:36
  be on YouTube. But I told Alex a man, like, you
• 32:38
  know, mean Jackal? We gonna go crazy, right, is it?
• 32:41
  I know, I know, I might go over. I don't know what time you gonna
• 32:44
  give me yet, but I'm, you know, I'm gonna go over is just used
• 32:50
  to sprinting down. Oh, hell no.
• 32:52
  You want to watch this one. You gotta watch me and Jack.
• 32:57
  Oh, I gotta be one of those things you ever seen or one of
• 33:00
  the most But I have a good feeling about that.
• 33:04
  I chose Jackal. This is the beautiful thing
• 33:07
  about this podcast is not only is it watched by fans of
• 33:09
  wrestling, but it's watched by people in the industry and not
• 33:13
  rarely this happened but when someone comes in and makes a
• 33:16
  call out, and here it is right here.
• 33:18
  Oh, he wants that matchup. Oh, man, me and my team brother.
• 33:25
  That's why I told Rush about that.
• 33:30
  We we gotta wait for him. Baby again because yeah, buddy,
• 33:34
  I definitely told him. Hey man, I want in my teeth, I
• 33:37
  try to politic, you know, a little bit.
• 33:38
  Yeah, anyone to show it. Oh, that's out there now, he's
• 33:45
  very good. Like, I just see him working and
• 33:49
  then just recently announced a match that me and you were kind
• 33:51
  of talking to you in private and then we found out that it's
• 33:54
  happening at Sanctuary. You you and Rocket are going to
• 33:57
  square up. First thing rocket told me guys,
• 33:59
  we better get ropes. Oh yeah.
• 34:03
  I know, I know supposed to be meeting my friend but didn't
• 34:05
  like trouser, you just told me is going to be a three-way, but
• 34:07
  I know your rocket gonna work after, you know, that's a that's
• 34:10
  one match. I'm super excited for.
• 34:12
  I think it's kind of good. That's a three-way first.
• 34:13
  It's fun to test these Waters and then see like that happen.
• 34:16
  Yeah already I could really tell it medium.
• 34:18
  We could we could have we could tell a good story out there.
• 34:21
  Yeah. So how do you come up with?
• 34:24
  We're talking in. This came up with so many times
• 34:25
  within the chat are everything like that but how do you come up
• 34:28
  on the fly with so many different techniques and moves
• 34:31
  and And like just taking something as simple as like a
• 34:34
  drop down and then you drop down and then grab pick an ankle and
• 34:37
  go right to something. So it's like, how like I just I
• 34:41
  already look like you guys are speaking a foreign language when
• 34:44
  you're setting up a match and talking things as a person who
• 34:46
  does who's never trained. But like some of the stuff that
• 34:49
  you do, how much of it is talked about before the match to kind
• 34:52
  of pull the curtain back and how much just talk about like in the
• 34:54
  ring like hey just trust me like move wise or submission.
• 34:57
  Yeah. Like all things.
• 34:58
  Like how you just kind of come up with stuff on the Fly moves
• 35:01
  wisely? It's usually talked about before
• 35:04
  and usually a lot of times I just think about it on my way
• 35:07
  there and I do I'm sorry for everybody.
• 35:10
  A lot of you guys I just bullshit.
• 35:12
  It's like oh I've been doing this move for you is just trust
• 35:14
  me and think I just do it but a lot of it just because I'll be
• 35:19
  things like that. I'll be thinking like in the
• 35:21
  match of my head just going through.
• 35:22
  It was okay if I worked at back what if I want to give him?
• 35:25
  So I don't want to just give him a regular backbreaker hip toss
• 35:28
  back brake. Oh shit.
• 35:29
  Okay, it kind of works like that.
• 35:32
  But with some missions is just on the spot, mostly like some of
• 35:34
  them. Like now I have my groove but
• 35:36
  like a lot of them is just on the spot because when there was
• 35:40
  a period that Johnny's is okay. Well I don't want no real just
• 35:43
  go out there and move it just me and a buddy of Mines equations
• 35:46
  and it's Big Al he's good. Like amateur wrestler to so I
• 35:50
  mean him we just go at it and I was just like, I'll just play
• 35:53
  I'll just have fun and see what could I come up with?
• 35:55
  How could I twist the arm or the leg or do something different?
• 35:59
  And then like I saw Zack saber Junior, Time, I forgot who was
• 36:02
  arrested. I think it was my Ito.
• 36:05
  I think so. And I heard one of the
• 36:07
  commentaries say, like I look like he just coming up with
• 36:10
  stuff on the spot and if for some reason that unlock
• 36:12
  something in my head, I'm like, oh, I could try that.
• 36:14
  Let me just like, I don't have to go for.
• 36:16
  Like, do you know, like, every move that we know.
• 36:18
  I just try to come up with something that's all.
• 36:20
  I just go out there and sometimes the lens a lot of
• 36:23
  times it don't. But you know, I'm asking a
• 36:26
  question that I kind of know the answer to have you ever put a
• 36:28
  submission in on somebody and about halfway into the
• 36:31
  submission? The first like, yo, Yo, he's up
• 36:32
  a little bit easier to avoid. Yeah, yesterday, I just did that
• 36:34
  yesterday. Did you want to be like and how
• 37:14
  have you developed your initial and Visions from precious?
• 37:17
  All the precious love Precious? You gotta stretch him out one
• 37:20
  time for me, maybe yeah, but I'll do love them.
• 37:23
  The other person who do I want to be like I don't know like I
• 37:30
  always because I like DDP so I was he was kind of an
• 37:32
  inspiration. I was like then pierrot is
• 37:35
  because he was on a lot of my WCW tapes to.
• 37:38
  But I never really had like a rest of the I gotta be I want to
• 37:41
  be just like him, you know? I just want you came to America
• 37:44
  and started studying more and had the axles, okay.
• 37:47
  For some people that maybe you watched more Nigel, McGuinness
• 37:51
  is definitely big influence to on that the pickup body part and
• 37:55
  just work it. He really helped me with that.
• 37:58
  Just watching Nigel McGuinness and I feel like I'm a mix of my
• 38:02
  injury and I'm trying to be like muda.
• 38:05
  I'm not as smooth as him but like I love the work.
• 38:07
  The great mood of does like he performs everything just hitting
• 38:10
  the ropes but he just he makes him the ropes to cool and
• 38:14
  everything he does. So I'm trying to, at least in my
• 38:16
  heart I'm trying to like balance both of them like Nigel
• 38:18
  McGuinness and and What's his name?
• 38:23
  You start pulling out poisonous, not pop.
• 38:25
  I kind of want to do that but my own favorite.
• 38:27
  That's my favorite. I love poison Mist.
• 38:29
  I watch module poisonous in a match and I was like, she's my
• 38:31
  favorite ever. Yeah, I do have an idea.
• 38:34
  I'll tell you because I don't want to do it yet, but I would
• 38:36
  tell you, there's an idea that I want to do something.
• 38:40
  I love how the questions are coming in.
• 38:42
  You guys are killing tonight, so excited for Prince Ahmed.
• 38:44
  The so Saxon a Junior versus Ahmed book it now.
• 38:47
  Oh, oh man. Yeah, Tony Delfin, just work
• 38:49
  Prince. I mean Zach saver, Junior.
• 38:52
  That match and that's been our might.
• 38:54
  Well, I say I don't want to say that's the dream manager.
• 38:56
  I want this, my gold Magi want to go and say, I would love for
• 39:00
  him to just stretch. Me and me trying to figure out
• 39:02
  something maybe. I will, you know, see how good I
• 39:04
  really am? The Pharaohs curse.
• 39:07
  The name for the mess. I like that PJ actually from
• 39:10
  fact you just named my last move.
• 39:11
  The one I just did on Zachary. Yeah, Ferris.
• 39:14
  All the features. The one who named it?
• 39:16
  The Pharaohs cars. For what was the?
• 39:18
  I know it gets used a lot but like the plague like because
• 39:21
  that was a big thing to like, the Yeah yeah, yeah.
• 39:25
  With fans not familiar with Ahmed me, what are some best
• 39:29
  matches? They can go watch or people that
• 39:30
  you matches that you can pick out to like some good ones.
• 39:33
  I have a laundry list but I'd like to hear what you think.
• 39:36
  I want to hear your list first. I will take any match that you
• 39:39
  would Hawthorne, did I thought they were absolute magic and
• 39:42
  beautiful. You and Polly know.
• 39:43
  Just recently was fantastic. I really liked you and Philly.
• 39:48
  Mike, I thought that match was excellent at smash master I
• 39:53
  mean, like it. So I know I've never had a match
• 39:56
  that you were in that. I was just like that wasn't my,
• 39:59
  that wasn't my match tonight. You know what I mean?
• 40:01
  Like, I've never had medley. I never had a match.
• 40:03
  That was just not a everyone has that one mattress.
• 40:07
  Like, yeah. Alright.
• 40:08
  Yeah. But like, I've never had that
• 40:09
  with you. I'm gonna be completely honest.
• 40:11
  I wasn't actually means a lot to me, but on top of the list, he
• 40:14
  said, I will put me and Santi that match taught me a lot too.
• 40:19
  I'll get back to it. But like, for now it's mean
• 40:21
  Santi. Me and Pena makes you Pena
• 40:24
  better Club. X.
• 40:26
  Me and Tommy, Tommy prints from Texas.
• 40:29
  The one I just did like, two weeks ago is pretty good.
• 40:32
  These three matches. Yeah.
• 40:33
  Like, I would put, like DJ's about like videos early in my
• 40:36
  career, but like now, like, the if you want, like, let's say,
• 40:38
  watch three matches of mine. Now, is going to be these three
• 40:41
  like, Santi sleep apnea, and the 100-ton prints, and on top of
• 40:46
  the list that you said, like Hawthorne and Andre, I love the
• 40:48
  Metro 181, the belt. All that was all.
• 40:52
  That was a great. Edge.
• 40:53
  But those like, just such a young guy.
• 40:55
  I met a young PGA does like that's actually what if you can
• 40:57
  compete. If you get the footage that
• 40:59
  please send me the link. I want to know, we're young PJ
• 41:02
  young Gamez so it's I don't even count them now as the new owner
• 41:07
  before before. So there you go.
• 41:08
  When did you transition to the character of Prince Ahmed?
• 41:12
  So before you were more Lucha style, did you always lean into
• 41:15
  the Egyptian culture with your characters?
• 41:16
  Yeah. Okay, so when I translate the
• 41:19
  transition into the prince Ahmed, That we would know know
• 41:25
  it started. When after PJ for me over for
• 41:28
  the for the world title at Johnny's, I got a phone call.
• 41:32
  We got Matt Striker, came a couple times to the gym and I
• 41:35
  actually it was fortunate enough to work with him.
• 41:37
  Yes, he asked to work with me and stuff.
• 41:39
  So at that time they were doing like they want to do like a new
• 41:42
  Lucha underground in Vegas and he recommended a couple of us
• 41:49
  from Gleason's and my vampire only picked me and My one of my
• 41:53
  best friend's, he's a fan, he's family me, honcho, you know,
• 41:56
  psychopomp Matthew Banks box together.
• 42:00
  So when we flew in actually there in that taping there was
• 42:04
  like, so Suppose there Chris Bay was their mysterious cue from
• 42:11
  Booker, T's place where all day G, no Medina from mlw is a lot
• 42:14
  of people there, but all I got was the smallest guy there and I
• 42:18
  could tell like, when a the moment he looked and he wasn't
• 42:21
  sure about me. So are they all fuck?
• 42:24
  You know, I gotta, I can't help seeing Vampiro in person that
• 42:29
  always it was years of watching his tapes and it was so good.
• 42:33
  That's the only person when he called because he called me on
• 42:35
  the phone, I called, right away. My brother in Egypt, said, you
• 42:38
  can't you're not gonna believe who called me.
• 42:39
  Like vampiros equate. What?
• 42:41
  He like, hung up and called me again, like, I think it brought
• 42:44
  like it just, that's the only time I actually marked out.
• 42:48
  Yeah. Cuz I used to watch when I was a
• 42:49
  kid in Egypt, like, videotapes and crazy enough to Less tape.
• 42:53
  I watch before I took the big trip to America was of a versus
• 42:57
  Jeff Jarrett match because I just, I used to love it, so I
• 43:00
  just gave him that phone call. I was like, Mark and I don't see
• 43:02
  him live at first like shit, man.
• 43:05
  I'm on my grandma and I don't have my, my grandma died when I
• 43:08
  when I was very young. So I have very, very few
• 43:10
  memories or but that was one of the members just seeing him.
• 43:12
  Call him the devil. Yeah, so see, my first one with
• 43:15
  distance. That's why I call you shake it.
• 43:17
  And then you see the disappointment on his face like
• 43:20
  is that what you brought me Stryker.
• 43:23
  All right. So I remember before we it was a
• 43:26
  beautiful venue to is in real, the real hotel.
• 43:29
  They had their own fight Dome. It's a beautiful spot.
• 43:31
  So Matt Striker kind of told me, I don't know why it just
• 43:34
  unlocked in music. Be aggressive shit right before
• 43:36
  my tryout match. It was him and I just wouldn't
• 43:39
  they became kind of crazy and then like a stand on stood on
• 43:44
  the apron as I curse curse more you'd be more of a nice that's
• 43:48
  like yeah Chris sent me, it's not curse on him and Arabic and
• 43:51
  shit. Hey like I was like I hope
• 43:53
  nobody translate what I'm about to say because he's a big dude
• 43:55
  like he was snap me in half so that was kind of the beginning
• 43:59
  of trying to find Prince Ahmed. Then like I say they made me
• 44:03
  work with Chris Bay twice and they kind of.
• 44:06
  Yeah. It was beautiful man I wish I
• 44:07
  have that footage. I worked in twice as fucking.
• 44:09
  Now you go workers based on our team partner oh he's here.
• 44:33
  First like that. So the original plan for Prince
• 44:35
  I made was remember I told you that like this is the last
• 44:38
  Pharaoh chosen is as felt like chosen by the fire but in order
• 44:42
  for me to become my own Pharaoh like my Aunt have my own mask in
• 44:46
  my own. I don't want to say God because
• 44:47
  it's against my religion to say that.
• 44:48
  Yeah. Kind of the idea.
• 44:50
  Yeah. To prove myself to each Farrell,
• 44:53
  first to prove myself, to hold us to Subic to Anubis everybody.
• 44:57
  Everybody, having their own Target, their own goal and have
• 45:00
  my own Gear with them. So that was the original plan
• 45:03
  for it and I feel like in there was like there's a lot of BS
• 45:06
  that'd be a sick piece of art of all the yeah.
• 45:08
  Well the gods and you like kneeling before them with like
• 45:11
  yes exactly. It's a good thing to work
• 45:15
  towards you know like that anywhere like you because I just
• 45:19
  heard from them that I need to take you out or whatever.
• 45:21
  It's it, I feel like it's a good goal.
• 45:25
  Like at the end you have your own mask whatever when you want
• 45:27
  to accomplish that but then like I pitched that idea.
• 45:31
  Tuco. I remember I preach that to
• 45:33
  Kevin Nash and he told his beautiful idea, but that it
• 45:35
  can't work on is that it can't work on.
• 45:37
  These going to be very difficult to do on the Indies because when
• 45:39
  you work on an indie show, not most people don't know you.
• 45:43
  So what are How You Gonna portray that in?
• 45:46
  You only have a couple seconds or sell?
• 45:48
  Exactly. Yeah.
• 45:49
  And it's, and he says a lot is great, but it says, it needs a
• 45:52
  lot of introduction. And I remember I pitched it to
• 45:55
  ovw and this all we love it, but we have to have you under
• 45:58
  contract to do that. All right, now, our contracts
• 46:00
  are kind of full of, I think they Have like a certain amount
• 46:02
  of countries they could use it's okay, but once we start bringing
• 46:05
  more, we we could do that. So I switched to the kind of the
• 46:10
  torture artist or okay, so my style, I can still mess you up
• 46:14
  and shit, but it's kind of less charactery.
• 46:16
  Still kind of same but like it's less.
• 46:20
  Then know you're new here, you have that new white gear and
• 46:24
  yeah, down the leg if I'm not mistaken and says, torture is
• 46:27
  Art. Now it's torture artist but they
• 46:30
  kind of messed it up but it's like towards Darkness.
• 46:32
  Yeah, yeah, I thought I seen that.
• 46:33
  I was like, because we always say the sanctuary, we're making
• 46:35
  art here. We're making art.
• 46:37
  Yeah, I always thought to myself, like you're like, your
• 46:40
  art, is your torture. Like your kind of embodied the
• 46:42
  sanctuary with your head away. I love that.
• 46:44
  I got him. I want to make those a t-shirt.
• 46:46
  Yeah, that'd be sick. Like a like a sanctuary
• 46:48
  exclusive on, man. Yeah.
• 46:51
  And we kind of put that over on commentary a lot to like we're
• 46:54
  like always saying like torture is your art, like, that's your
• 46:56
  art that your tray and you got everyone has their own art.
• 46:59
  They bring like Savages as Savage being a Savage as his
• 47:02
  art. Like you know I mean like
• 47:03
  everyone has that is Art kind of moniker.
• 47:07
  Yeah, exactly. And one things that I really
• 47:09
  love when like somebody comes to music, I love that.
• 47:11
  It's not just a nickname that you just throw it just so we
• 47:14
  could see it. I really, really makes my day
• 47:17
  out when somebody like every appreciate a lot when somebody
• 47:19
  like a wrestler worry. Family, all we could see it.
• 47:21
  Like, why they call you? So yes I do.
• 47:23
  It makes my day. What makes a good character to
• 47:26
  at least for me, as well as like, if I can see your
• 47:28
  character in a wrestling, like you look at Hulk Hogan, right?
• 47:32
  Hulk Hogan's character, rustled in a ring but Hulk Hogan
• 47:34
  character. You can insert in a Rocky movie,
• 47:36
  you can insert here. Yeah, Phil, and he could be a
• 47:39
  hero. Like I look at the character.
• 47:41
  A prince on, man. Like you could be a moon night
• 47:42
  villain, you know what I mean? Like you could be a Marvel
• 47:46
  character. You mean like your character?
• 47:48
  Thank you. From just professional wrestling
• 47:51
  to something else. And I think somebody just told
• 47:53
  me like I want to see you in Prince of Persia last, do it.
• 48:20
  What do I got to give that? That meant a lot of love.
• 48:22
  Hawthorne men, he's very, very underrated.
• 48:24
  I remember meeting Peter in the car and he's like that, man
• 48:26
  belongs on TV. He don't, he don't belong with
• 48:29
  us on on the Indian that he's not saying that's a knock on the
• 48:32
  indicia, but like it's hot. Summers is it?
• 48:34
  If I agree. I agree and I sound so biased,
• 48:38
  and I can't stand what other people like.
• 48:39
  Oh, go watch this company. I'm really proud of.
• 48:41
  And then I watched their roster and I'm like, nobody stands out
• 48:43
  to me. I'm not trying to be mean, but
• 48:45
  no one's out. But like what we have in this
• 48:48
  northeast area and like the people come To the sanctuary and
• 48:50
  people that work at. Like a lot of shows we work and
• 48:52
  I'm like, not just because we're friends it's just like there's
• 48:56
  so many really talented people here.
• 48:58
  Like if I hit the lottery and was a billionaire, I do my own
• 49:00
  Lucha underground and I would do it.
• 49:01
  Like, I would like Sanctuary like was that where we did some
• 49:05
  bits and I think that can slowly come back, but it sounds good.
• 49:09
  We gotta give a lot of love. He teaches me a lot, a lot of
• 49:13
  people. If you go there and you actually
• 49:16
  just go there and like want to be better.
• 49:18
  He will help you a lot. Don't Coping with your own
• 49:20
  agenda like imma do it just my way, fuck it.
• 49:23
  Listen, what he wants to tell you because he will help you a
• 49:25
  lot more than you think he gives you all the tools to succeed and
• 49:30
  it's really up to you to Make It or Break It, You Know?
• 49:34
  Dillon Quinn, hate this one. We're going to read it.
• 49:37
  I always meant. So I, as I, my a BJ character
• 49:40
  has turned slowly heal so I always have and I always hate on
• 49:43
  Dylan. But who's your favorite ref?
• 49:45
  And why is it me, but not the damn chain.
• 49:46
  I don't think I got it. I don't think, I don't think
• 49:49
  attachment. I mean, I'm just saying there's
• 49:51
  a, there's always a place on a Sunday and a first Friday that
• 49:54
  can use a referee and nobody ever shows up wraps, never show
• 49:57
  up. Lance is the only one who comes
• 49:58
  just saying lines. To one of my favorite referees
• 50:02
  is I love Steve the wing. He's part of the Fallout
• 50:07
  training crew and William from Connecticut.
• 50:12
  You ready? He roughs it for battle Club,
• 50:16
  not better club Beyond addressing open stuff.
• 50:18
  Yeah, I love them though. I could just go out there and
• 50:20
  just play and it's like they will they play with me?
• 50:23
  You know? Yeah, so transitioning here kind
• 50:27
  of taking it back to the beginning of you.
• 50:28
  Doing your first training session with?
• 50:30
  Yeah, with Masha, Masha killed and now used.
• 50:34
  Are part of a team that helped train a new generation of
• 50:38
  wrestlers, not saying that you're packing it up and you're
• 50:39
  just becoming a trainer but your skills and everything that
• 50:42
  you've learned and accomplished in wrestling is enough that
• 50:45
  people like, hey, how can you help this next group, get better
• 50:48
  with and now you're going - yeah, I used to because I love.
• 50:52
  So I don't know if you know, inner-city King Sunday.
• 50:54
  I gotta give that man. A lot of love to because he
• 50:56
  taught me a lot. Bro, I saw him one time at
• 50:59
  Gleason's. Just take a hip toss when I
• 51:00
  first very. When I first, when I first
• 51:01
  started, he may hit us. It's so good, bro.
• 51:05
  It made me just was better than any movie.
• 51:06
  I've seen in my life, just taking a hip toss.
• 51:08
  I was like, I want to be like him and he left for a little bit
• 51:11
  and then, like, once I start like traveling out more and
• 51:14
  like, I went to ovw in Texas, and I was very fortunate with
• 51:17
  the opportunities that I had. He hit me up, just him like,
• 51:20
  like him what? Work was like a huge honour to
• 51:22
  me as I get my like I'm, I'm part of battle Club know me,
• 51:25
  like I'm a trainer. They, if you want to come and
• 51:26
  just like, get in the ring, was a all fuck.
• 51:28
  Yeah, brah. Just want to get in the ring
• 51:29
  with you. I just want to feel you out in
• 51:31
  the ring, as I know it sounds weird, but for non-wrestling you
• 51:33
  You, well, I guess the Russell. You know, what else I do?
• 51:36
  I want to film The Ring. I want to see how smoothie and
• 51:38
  brought you just a moment. You touch him.
• 51:39
  It's magic. Yes, ma'am.
• 51:41
  And so you start inviting me more to and Joakim.
• 51:44
  A lot of love to joke into because he gave me used to.
• 51:47
  I used to go train and he's not a didn't he never asked me for
• 51:50
  money. It's always on the house.
• 51:52
  I was on the house. They always treated me with
• 51:53
  respect and love and then like so I start going more with Santi
• 51:57
  just train just to be in the ring with the Marshal will come
• 51:59
  and all the stuff. And then like just one day, I
• 52:03
  remember there was a guy there. II like him, but everything.
• 52:08
  But like, well, I don't want ever have like a match with him.
• 52:12
  I will tell you why. After all fair is really gonna,
• 52:17
  you know, it's just, it's not going to be good.
• 52:19
  It's not even it's just it's I'll tell you why after, but for
• 52:22
  there's a reason why I can't have a match with And but we did
• 52:26
  a drill in fucking came out, beautiful.
• 52:27
  Right. And they're like, Joakim calls
• 52:30
  me over there. I met Christ speaking for a
• 52:32
  second and at that time, I didn't really speak to joking
• 52:34
  that much. Like it's always been high in
• 52:36
  buying respect from the oversold love but we don't hear you have
• 52:39
  that. I could I talk to you for a
• 52:41
  second and in my has gotten yourselves, has he asked me to
• 52:46
  work with him because I love Joe but I can't I can't I can't do
• 52:49
  that much in my head, you know and Oh shit.
• 52:55
  One of my favorite metal Santi and I'm it.
• 52:58
  Okay. So I told Jose like I'm at.
• 52:59
  Do you feel comfortable? It's going to ask you this
• 53:02
  question. Do you feel comfortable becoming
• 53:05
  a coach was like, wait, what me? They're becoming a coach with
• 53:09
  Santi because I want to like each class to be different.
• 53:12
  Like I say like you have a school like you have English and
• 53:14
  math and biology, whatever? Like I want like you and sound
• 53:18
  to be a class Martian, akhirah be a class and Steve the manga
• 53:21
  and Michael albeit closer. Oh, Mmm.
• 53:23
  Absolutely man. Thank you.
• 53:25
  I didn't, I didn't know if I'm good enough to be a trainer.
• 53:29
  Like, who the fuck? I'm like to tell people that.
• 53:30
  Are you doing it wrong? And my opinion, you should do it
• 53:32
  by the low but I felt comfortable doing that with
• 53:35
  Santi. You know, I would bring you into
• 53:39
  a school not just for your ability but your mind State and
• 53:42
  your determination because not many people are going to pick up
• 53:44
  their entire family and their entire life and leave their
• 53:47
  country to come to America to chase a dream that may or may
• 53:52
  not pan out. You don't know me.
• 53:53
  In like yeah. Thank you though.
• 53:54
  So like when a wrestler is going through even myself man, I go
• 53:57
  through a lot of like, oh man, maybe this should be it.
• 54:00
  Maybe I should pack it in. Maybe I should just change up my
• 54:03
  course here. And then I hear stories like
• 54:05
  yours. It's like my sewing
• 54:07
  insignificant like it really feels that way.
• 54:10
  And it's not like to have like a pissing contest but like that's
• 54:12
  a lot to leave everything, you know, and everything you love
• 54:15
  and like not many people in society in America in general.
• 54:19
  Leave a 15-mile bubble of their home because that comfort And
• 54:23
  for you to leave all of that. For this industry, I would put
• 54:27
  you on any roster any team, or any coaching staff is if I
• 54:29
  hadn't been able to do so, because that's what I want to
• 54:31
  even say that jump. I don't want to like, say it all
• 54:34
  makes me better than ever it. Don't man, it just does
• 54:36
  something that's what. Yeah, it's a tough mental block
• 54:38
  to get through. Yeah, sometimes during that
• 54:40
  story can help people be like, all right, I need to reset, you
• 54:42
  know what I mean? Like, when I tell that story, I
• 54:44
  use it for like, hey, man, you actually, I promised you a lot
• 54:47
  tougher than you think because I came from this like, okay,
• 54:50
  because in Egypt were all very family-oriented and Uh, yeah,
• 54:53
  everybody's together and once this and once I said, I want to
• 54:56
  get out of that, like everybody was kind of against me.
• 54:58
  I don't blame him though. They didn't do like maliciously,
• 55:01
  but like if you you got to lift up your school T to leave, and
• 55:06
  just go do something crazy as wrestling to do.
• 55:09
  Slap your legs for sound effects.
• 55:11
  It sounds Cairo. They're gonna, I do get that,
• 55:13
  but everybody was against me for.
• 55:15
  They were trying to like, wake me up.
• 55:17
  They I remember there's a little bit of period of time.
• 55:20
  They thought like I had like black magic on me and They're
• 55:23
  like they will bring like all these stuff like I meant.
• 55:25
  Somebody did Black Magic on you. Something's not right.
• 55:27
  And they start to be arrest. Oh yeah because it's so it
• 55:30
  sounds so weird to them and I got blessed.
• 55:32
  My I do understand. Do they ever watch your matches
• 55:35
  and see your character and still think that because you probably
• 55:37
  evil character. Yeah he's amazing.
• 55:40
  Everyone back home is such a sweetheart.
• 55:44
  We're happy to have them. That's you like you're not the
• 55:55
  same. I made that like I almost didn't
• 55:57
  recognize like she stop bullying me.
• 56:04
  I love that. She was, even though she was the
• 56:13
  first person to come and talk to me about it.
• 56:14
  It's very difficult. Like, it's not like American
• 56:16
  bombs and stuff like talk to him.
• 56:19
  So for an Egyptian woman to do that as like it's bro, it means
• 56:22
  the world. What do you want to do?
• 56:24
  Okay. What was the toxin happened?
• 56:26
  And we started talking and I little by little okay, go, if
• 56:29
  you believe that and just you're not going to do anything wrong,
• 56:32
  you know, just okay. God bless you.
• 56:34
  Just, you know, remember to pray and all and yeah, and she made
• 56:40
  my first tights because I was so broke.
• 56:42
  And I remember I needed to, well, that's when action was
• 56:44
  supposed to rest of my Striker. I had like generic pants and
• 56:48
  shit. And as I do, I need something.
• 56:50
  More is my Striker. I need something.
• 56:52
  I'm gonna want. Bought these like Brazil like
• 56:55
  training pants and I was like, Tom Ang I wanted this as I don't
• 56:59
  worry, I'll G God. Blesses shot to make it look
• 57:02
  into gold and stuff. And she's the first inspiration
• 57:05
  to go into the gold color and my dad, I love you.
• 57:08
  I love the black and gold black and Gold's my favorite color
• 57:10
  scheme. That's why it's almost black and
• 57:12
  gold, black and gold. Jacob was the one who drew the
• 57:16
  black and gold gear really? Yeah, he sketched it out.
• 57:19
  Meaning we're just talking. Remember, I was like, yeah, I
• 57:21
  want something like, Almost like Kurt Angle and we just talking
• 57:24
  on the phone. I love the past.
• 57:26
  I love the skirt thing. Yeah parent thing.
• 57:30
  Yeah yeah I did because I saw it kind of from I think psychosis I
• 57:34
  forgot Cycles versus I think super crazy at one night stand
• 57:39
  and he has something similar like that and I was telling Jack
• 57:41
  oh we just I kind of want something like just kind of
• 57:44
  different and he just he drew that.
• 57:46
  He just drew the gear. That is that good enough?
• 57:48
  I don't even tell them to draw. I think he offered as a couch.
• 57:50
  Don't need to row. He's just like So, what up?
• 57:54
  First time I saw you leaving this guy skyress, you scared me.
• 57:58
  I love Sky. I feel like that's one of the
• 58:00
  messages icon under delivered. I want to.
• 58:01
  I want to have a match again with my skyress me and him, and
• 58:04
  I'm gonna tell you right now, Millie, Millie from the left
• 58:07
  side. If you really want to get that
• 58:08
  full like listen, people out there, see, Ahmed and cpj and
• 58:12
  see everyone wrestle on the scene.
• 58:13
  And then what? And where they work is
• 58:15
  beautiful. But if you really want that
• 58:17
  Prince, Ahmed experience, if you really want to experience of in
• 58:20
  my opinion, the best way these characters step out.
• 58:23
  You got to come to the sanctuary.
• 58:25
  I'll give you 2 plays Sanctuary about a club.
• 58:27
  Yeah, these are two places were like, okay, I could be Ahmed
• 58:30
  Ahmed, I could, you guys see some work.
• 58:33
  I really want to make a trip out there because I have a lot of
• 58:36
  friends who have transitioned and went over there, Cosmic and
• 58:39
  Rembrandt and a few others and, and they were already talented,
• 58:44
  and I already had a good mind state of wanting to become
• 58:46
  better and wanting to push themselves harder in this
• 58:48
  industry. And once I found out that, who
• 58:50
  the coaching staff was there and hearing you and Masha, And just
• 58:53
  seeing them in just short, a short amount of time of they've
• 58:57
  gotten so much better, which is insane to think about.
• 58:59
  Like, I'm so proud of them and I like, it's another school that
• 59:04
  I've never experienced, but I like, I love everything they do
• 59:06
  like Gleason's. I've never stepped foot in
• 59:08
  Gleason's, but because I met some new people come there House
• 59:10
  Of Glory. I met so many talented people
• 59:12
  that came from there and became friends with and then and then
• 59:14
  and then this where you're at now training is just another one
• 59:17
  that like is on my list of, I want to go experience any time
• 59:20
  and they have a such a beautiful like silly Like joking did a
• 59:24
  hell of a job, man. And he really is trying to make.
• 59:26
  I'd never seen anybody care as much about his students as
• 59:29
  joking. That's when I got when I once I
• 59:31
  got out of Glee translates through a students and yeah and
• 59:34
  like I like I don't want to sound cocky or anything because
• 59:37
  I'm really nobody for real though but a lot of places did
• 59:40
  hit me up to go and train their not like I feel like I'll betray
• 59:43
  Johnny, it just it's no. I'm so I magli shoes boy, it was
• 59:47
  Santa's. The only one who invited me in
• 59:49
  to that and he's only played that's the only place I want in
• 59:51
  train that was Was bar club. I saw the way they're doing is
• 59:56
  okay, I do. Okay, I like the vibe here but
• 59:58
  anyway, it's like they're all like, Gleason's got like yeah,
• 1:00:00
  pain is a Gleason's guy. Masha, and, and Santi.
• 1:00:04
  And plus, of course, my clone stamp, but once I start speaking
• 1:00:06
  to Joakim and how much he cares about is the student said, I
• 1:00:10
  mean, it's beautifully made me care to, you know, man.
• 1:00:12
  Okay. I want to help you as much as
• 1:00:14
  you can. Yeah.
• 1:00:14
  Palm. And those are, which is joke a
• 1:00:16
  on Twitter and Instagram me. Always filming stuff and try to
• 1:00:19
  make people comfortable around the cameras and stuff.
• 1:00:21
  So, Everybody here is doing hormones are sick.
• 1:00:25
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:00:26
  They do hell of a job. They trying to make everybody
• 1:00:28
  shine. They really they really do care.
• 1:00:31
  It's not just me saying it, so I'll let you know in a
• 1:00:34
  clinically on the king says what is your favorite wrestling video
• 1:00:36
  game? Oh, here comes the pain.
• 1:00:39
  Here Comes the Pain. Did I cannot wait for that?
• 1:00:41
  Aw game that looks like to know looks like no mercy like I do.
• 1:00:53
  That's a trip as a trap. It's a good one but there's a
• 1:00:55
  video out of just Chris dat ladder and Darby Allen riding a
• 1:00:59
  skateboard around. Oh yeah.
• 1:01:01
  And I'm like give me four people in the ring and this give us all
• 1:01:07
  skateboards to ride around on ours last call.
• 1:01:11
  I know we went a little longer than I normally do the last
• 1:01:13
  column, having a blast here. I would love a part.
• 1:01:16
  To I'd love to dive down into like video games and comic books
• 1:01:19
  and stuff that you're into. I just talked about more as a
• 1:01:21
  person. I appreciate you doing this.
• 1:01:22
  So Much the fantastic man. You're killing?
• 1:01:25
  Yeah. Really.
• 1:01:26
  I'm for someone who's terrified a new podcast.
• 1:01:28
  I'm really like you. You and Don you don't kick a
• 1:01:32
  well-loved on because he eat you guys always helped me out a lot.
• 1:01:35
  You always have full me over and stuff.
• 1:01:36
  So I that really goes a long way with and not just like you're
• 1:01:39
  doing it so I could get on the show.
• 1:01:40
  No, you just, you genuinely nice.
• 1:01:42
  People, you generally trying to help me out.
• 1:01:43
  So, I love you. I just want more people to
• 1:01:46
  experience you outside of your character and see who you are,
• 1:01:48
  as a person, and hear your story.
• 1:01:50
  Because I think, I think it's important, I think I think
• 1:01:53
  that's what helps fans today. I know cave is really really
• 1:01:56
  important but I think having that I think that's how you get
• 1:01:59
  your fans to support harder's if they know who you are as a
• 1:02:02
  person and support harder you don't like I think in my heart I
• 1:02:06
  know that but I just the way I was brought into the business
• 1:02:10
  even growing up. I didn't even start using social
• 1:02:12
  media until I came to America is just to keep up with my buddy.
• 1:02:14
  So it's very foreign to me. Especially when I'm going from
• 1:02:18
  that going to Johnny all kayfabe and all that stuff.
• 1:02:20
  And so it's very out of my I know.
• 1:02:23
  No, it's the right thing to do, but I'm not like it hurts.
• 1:02:26
  Listen, there's one last guy that I want out of that.
• 1:02:29
  Stay stable, and I just need to bring it down.
• 1:02:31
  Face, got a break in the face. I got a brand-new.
• 1:02:33
  I actually said, I told him, I tell you my real name and you
• 1:02:37
  could get on the podcast. Zere and yeah, make fun of him
• 1:02:54
  instead of I love her. So we're at we're at Smash and
• 1:02:58
  it was myself and bougie and I believe she's like you know you
• 1:03:01
  got chocolate on the podcast. He goes.
• 1:03:02
  Yeah, it was he doesn't do those and I was like, yeah, you had me
• 1:03:05
  and p.j. a joke. I said our meds on Thursday goes
• 1:03:08
  what I like. Yeah I go.
• 1:03:11
  There's only one guy I need and faces turns around just like.
• 1:03:17
  And then I was I was with piece of people when he came walking
• 1:03:20
  by and I was like, bujji I hate you face here.
• 1:03:23
  Cool. And he just gate like the great
• 1:03:25
  like although your room self up and he just had.
• 1:03:27
  But I was like love that guy. I love him.
• 1:03:30
  And he's so underrated to like people think of him other the
• 1:03:32
  deathmatch and stuff, like, in the rink face can go, bro, me
• 1:03:36
  and him used to just have fun in the ring and Gleason's, bro.
• 1:03:39
  Like I was just all man amount of shit with that was fast.
• 1:03:41
  We came up together, I used to put like facing a tiger balm and
• 1:03:47
  pick him up and midair you flip right into a crossface midair
• 1:03:50
  and we just bunt to get all. It was so beautiful, bro.
• 1:03:52
  Crazy. Oh, you.
• 1:03:54
  So we would do some crazy shit man in and John come yell at us.
• 1:03:57
  Of course Paul, what are you doing?
• 1:03:58
  You can't do that. He's very, very underrated to
• 1:04:02
  and I never seen someone captivated crowd and get people
• 1:04:05
  chanting him and getting into his Mash fail face.
• 1:04:08
  Our heel, more than a guy who never talks.
• 1:04:11
  He never says a word. He just started.
• 1:04:14
  I Gotta Give making face break it.
• 1:04:16
  Laughs is my fave. I totally agree.
• 1:04:20
  It's just beautiful about the ones.
• 1:04:21
  He really gets mad. It's kind of scary.
• 1:04:23
  Because I suppose some awful lot.
• 1:04:24
  Allah, I don't ever want to see that man.
• 1:04:28
  Seriously angry, I'm leaving the building here all on your own,
• 1:04:31
  but I actually I pitch to face joking around and bougie I said
• 1:04:35
  you know how you guys have to break up now, right?
• 1:04:37
  And he goes what I said. What are you going to be in a
• 1:04:39
  couple couple weeks fit bougie, and he goes.
• 1:04:43
  What I go and it is girls like a dad and I was like, yes, no and
• 1:04:47
  I go what is he? And they're like the MILF under
• 1:04:50
  eyes. Like there you go.
• 1:05:10
  To a future Prince Ahmed. Just trust the process man.
• 1:05:14
  It's just Just go with it because the AI, of course, many
• 1:05:18
  have a lot of done when you just change your whole life was like,
• 1:05:20
  Hey, man, like I could, I do it, mock me and it took me a little
• 1:05:24
  bit, you know, to really buy into that.
• 1:05:26
  But like, hey man, just go for it because you only live once
• 1:05:29
  brother, especially if I'm not harming.
• 1:05:30
  Nobody, I mean, in the ring, I am, but outside, I'm just
• 1:05:34
  minding my own business. My God bless everybody, man.
• 1:05:36
  God bless everybody. And even if I don't like you
• 1:05:39
  like my mother always said, God bless you but away from me
• 1:05:41
  brother. Yeah I still shooting nothing
• 1:05:42
  but Love, I want you to eat, just not at my table.
• 1:05:44
  Exactly brother. Like and even I don't hate on
• 1:05:47
  nobody because if you got something brother, that means
• 1:05:50
  you've done something right. Yeah.
• 1:05:52
  So I just, I just focus. Focus on myself and God bless
• 1:05:55
  everybody around me, but I would say the trust, trust, trust the
• 1:05:58
  process. What match would you have
• 1:06:01
  someone new to professional wrestling watch?
• 1:06:03
  I got to see this past week in this sanctuary and it was
• 1:06:05
  magical. So this weekend is my friend
• 1:06:07
  Lily she I'm going to say this again and I'm not saying it to
• 1:06:11
  pick on you. I'm just saying this she knows
• 1:06:13
  like Cena in the Rock but one of her favorite movies is they live
• 1:06:17
  but this is how out of wrestling, she grew up.
• 1:06:19
  It doesn't know much about it. It she didn't know Roddy Piper
• 1:06:22
  was a wrestler. Yeah, but - so this weekend, she
• 1:06:28
  got to experience smash master and Sanctuary so they were her
• 1:06:31
  first-ever wrestling matches. All I think, what would you
• 1:06:37
  recommend to her as a wrestling fan like a match that she has to
• 1:06:40
  go watch. I love the rocking Stone, Cold
• 1:06:43
  Man restaurant was only 17. I love that rock and stone and
• 1:06:46
  you have peacocks you can go find that.
• 1:06:48
  Yeah, like for somebody, that was my match when I when I was a
• 1:06:51
  kid. Like those one of them matches
• 1:06:52
  that my dad kind of, I don't know, how the hell you got that.
• 1:06:55
  WrestleMania pay-per-views? Yeah, but that was the one of
• 1:06:58
  the matches that had and I love it.
• 1:06:59
  I just, for me personally, I don't know about me, I love the
• 1:07:02
  rock cycle maintenance, my own Bashan, razor, the first ladder
• 1:07:05
  match. Okay, I love that match to.
• 1:07:07
  I watched that as a wrestler because I did I wasn't really
• 1:07:11
  supposed to do as a kid, but I'm tired.
• 1:07:12
  Just as a fan. Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:07:17
  People don't understand how amazing I'm at is outside.
• 1:07:19
  The ring is legit and one of the most genuine guys are wrestling,
• 1:07:22
  Dylan is putting it on heavy. Follow all of them as well.
• 1:07:25
  And that man goes through a lot and he just, and he's a tough
• 1:07:28
  man. He's a good dude.
• 1:07:29
  I love him. Yeah, good good man.
• 1:07:31
  I love that guy. He's a brother.
• 1:07:32
  Um, faces a physical machine. Yep.
• 1:07:35
  And then any other independent wrestling scenes that you have
• 1:07:38
  your eye on. I'd love to see you in the KC
• 1:07:40
  area against my guy. Luke Langley.
• 1:07:44
  Oh, I'd love to go anywhere. I'll say brother, I want to
• 1:07:46
  wrestle everywhere and that and that's shoot though like
• 1:07:48
  whenever somebody asks me is like, okay, like where do you
• 1:07:51
  want to go? Like, aww in my heart for real,
• 1:07:54
  though, it's not bullshit. I To go everywhere.
• 1:07:56
  I want to go, I want to wrestle for TNA, for impact, for a W-4
• 1:08:01
  Ring of Honor for Japan everywhere and I won't get the
• 1:08:05
  New Japan America new trend strong.
• 1:08:06
  Yeah, I was fortunate that I was fortunate to have an impact, got
• 1:08:10
  checked out the inviting to a show after it was, it's all
• 1:08:14
  there's some sub. Allow everyone to work.
• 1:08:17
  Every because you, you learn so much, man.
• 1:08:18
  Just working different people. Different styles, different
• 1:08:21
  environments to is just you become a better wrestler.
• 1:08:24
  Like Just does. But you wash.
• 1:08:26
  It just tells you been to everywhere.
• 1:08:27
  I look at him now. Yeah, like that's kind of the
• 1:08:30
  route is the long route. I like, that's the route.
• 1:08:32
  I kind of want to take where I just go everywhere.
• 1:08:34
  Experience everybody. But then you at the end, you
• 1:08:36
  just build your own, your own thing.
• 1:08:39
  And that's the beautiful part about a promotion to, like a lot
• 1:08:41
  of promotions. I feel like, sure, they go and
• 1:08:43
  they want to put on matches, and they want to keep their locker
• 1:08:46
  room tight and they want to do that.
• 1:08:47
  But if you look at places like the Lucha underground, you look
• 1:08:49
  at the rohs. You look at Japan, you look at
• 1:08:51
  like some of these companies on a bigger level as like it, Was
• 1:08:55
  such a breeding ground for so many talented to come in and
• 1:08:57
  collaborate and work with each other and and it and like pwg.
• 1:09:01
  And it became like this place that everyone came to kind of
• 1:09:04
  came in and everyone got that. Like, I use that touch, you know
• 1:09:06
  I mean yes, Simple Touch in the ring or talk to each other
• 1:09:08
  backstage, learn and network. And it's insane how much someone
• 1:09:12
  can learn in wrestling on a 15 20 minute before that
• 1:09:18
  interaction before. And after is in his beautifully,
• 1:09:21
  like, I had like it start, feeling it more and more now
• 1:09:24
  because of more Aware of it. But like I had imagined Texas
• 1:09:27
  with a guy. I love it.
• 1:09:28
  Is name is Lou gaw T? And he's a tree, I didn't know
• 1:09:30
  who is a trainer at the time but he taught me so much.
• 1:09:33
  Like I said, I'm kind of its kind of hard for me to put stuff
• 1:09:36
  together and the way he just taught music.
• 1:09:38
  Oh shit, click didn't like I wrestled Santi.
• 1:09:41
  And I like I said, like I always wanted to work with him but he
• 1:09:43
  just he would teach you some stuff though.
• 1:09:46
  There's another oh shit. Moment, Like We something a
• 1:09:48
  locksmith what? He like, something is all about
• 1:09:50
  like creating moments and stuff and like you wrestle got like
• 1:09:53
  Penny, he taught me a lot because he He's brings to fight
• 1:09:56
  out of you is a fight but he knows how to construct it.
• 1:09:58
  So inviting all that man, you tell a story and like, put a
• 1:10:02
  spots together and bring the fight.
• 1:10:03
  Imagine put all these things together.
• 1:10:05
  So like, oh shit, you're a hell of a, rest of them, I'm still
• 1:10:07
  not there yet, but I feel like just touching these different
• 1:10:10
  people from different sides, it teaches you a lot.
• 1:10:13
  The person who taught me that not because I've never stepped
• 1:10:16
  in between the ropes. I've never trained, but the
• 1:10:18
  person who taught me how important a just booking
• 1:10:20
  somebody. Again, somebody in a show can be
• 1:10:23
  for someone's growth was Was Christina Marie.
• 1:10:26
  Christina Marie, very, very talented.
• 1:10:28
  And I think that Zoe Starks. If yeah, it's always talks on
• 1:10:31
  TV. Christina Marie should be on TV
• 1:10:33
  because I think they're very similar.
• 1:10:34
  I think they're just as talented as each other.
• 1:10:37
  But Christina Marie said like she struggled and she didn't
• 1:10:39
  know if she fit in and she didn't know how she was doing or
• 1:10:41
  where she stood, and then ppw put her against my Mercedes
• 1:10:45
  Martinez twice. This is just those two
• 1:10:48
  interactions in those two matches.
• 1:10:50
  With Mercedes Martinez made. Me who I am now, is Christina,
• 1:10:53
  Marie. And I was like, that's Insane.
• 1:10:55
  And I thought, I always think to myself as like when someone goes
• 1:10:58
  to an actual school and that school brings in people, are you
• 1:11:00
  have a school where like, you know, like just not to bring it
• 1:11:03
  up again because I'm a giant Mark for you both.
• 1:11:05
  He is but like I do in a Masha and all those other towns of
• 1:11:08
  people are there all the time working with you, like you.
• 1:11:10
  If you don't get good in that scenario, it's on.
• 1:11:13
  You mean like it's like like an NXT.
• 1:11:17
  Like if you if you go to NXT and you don't Excel like how like
• 1:11:21
  yeah, you're getting those experiences that people in
• 1:11:23
  Independence and only get An hour or two and you're getting
• 1:11:26
  it every day, every week and what about a club like they
• 1:11:29
  have, like, Masha, you have a Kira.
• 1:11:33
  Here's an absolute pain is killing all over the fucking
• 1:11:35
  scene. Yeah, Santi my money.
• 1:11:38
  Best wrestler ever seen in my life.
• 1:11:40
  Yeah, my claw. Michael is fucking beautiful and
• 1:11:42
  everything. Got great promo.
• 1:11:44
  You have Steve domain, who was a referee but his perspective on
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  the business so different though.
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  Oh shit. Okay.
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  Because he sees it from a different side to that his
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  knowledge and his opinion is so valuable like I'm gonna put
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  myself because I'm the least experienced at all of them.
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  But just having all these guys around like brother if you don't
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  really make it and have it plus I've been Joe, helping you out
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  and give you an opportunity to have been problem in.
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  Those are just film me around, trying to make it better.
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  That's really on you though. All we ask for in return is just
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  effort. Yeah.
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  And you see I guarantee if you show us every you going to see
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  the results of it. Totally agree.
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  Well, the clothes here print prints on man, where where can
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  people find you and anything else that you?
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  We didn't talk about that you want to cover?
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  You can find me on Facebook under my real name, Ahmed, Al
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  silico, it's a longest name, but I think if you're right Prince,
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  Ahmed will show up? Yeah.
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  On Instagram. It's Prince.
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  Ahmed. But the armored is kind of a dot
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  h .m, cuz there's a million princes, I'm on Instagram.
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  And on Twitter, unfortunately, is at real prints on it.
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  I don't believe my like, oh, I really activated it.
• 1:12:47
  I think it's deactivated, yes, Twitter.
• 1:12:50
  Yep, I just post this up today. I don't know.
• 1:12:53
  Well, if I went to your Twitter via all A pro wrestling T's and
• 1:12:56
  it was deactivated so you might have to update your pro
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  wrestling tease. Oh shit.
• 1:13:00
  Okay, maybe I did when I was doing this on that.
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  Okay. You just kind of went to one
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  social media? No.
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  Yeah it's crazy. I can't get prints.
• 1:13:09
  Get Prince. Ahmed merged.
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  His merch is sick. I love your merch ever really
• 1:13:12
  good murder. Thank you brother.
• 1:13:13
  Thank you. Miss Lola.
• 1:13:14
  Shout out to Jessie laboum. He's he's also a Johnny guy but
• 1:13:18
  he makes all the logos all designs for us and he do.
• 1:13:21
  He does everything if you want him as a on your show, whatever
• 1:13:24
  he does, whatever you want. Don't do it.
• 1:13:25
  Anyone you think is a good conversation?
• 1:13:28
  I trust your judgment. Send them my way.
• 1:13:29
  Yeah, you got to get honcho here, man.
• 1:13:31
  Matthew Banks, you gotta get something to brother.
• 1:13:33
  I'll get ya, both of them, get me, get me, get them, send them
• 1:13:36
  over honcho Matthew because he's a, he's a brother.
• 1:13:38
  My mom, Matt Matthew Banks before I do anything.
• 1:13:41
  Unless I just asked his opinion. Yeah.
• 1:13:43
  Where I go like, do something stupid.
• 1:13:44
  Like, not what do you think? I just go bark out something.
• 1:13:48
  And he's so wise in the business as a division sign outside a
• 1:13:51
  business that he was just calm me down.
• 1:13:52
  And so on T is also a brother of mine that he and Cowboys.
• 1:13:55
  Also too, but it's yeah, try to get cowboy.
• 1:13:57
  Fuck. All these guys try to get
• 1:13:58
  Cowboys, Cowboys Cowboys on the list.
• 1:14:01
  I want to, I want to interview Cowboy but I also, I told Cowboy
• 1:14:05
  one of these weekends or one of these days I want to I want to
• 1:14:07
  go with him and I want to go experience.
• 1:14:09
  I want to I want to impose go to Gleason's.
• 1:14:12
  A moment for me because like I just hearing all of your stories
• 1:14:17
  now and getting that feel of where you guys came from and and
• 1:14:21
  always talking to Cowboy about it, it just to walk in.
• 1:14:24
  Now for me just Absorbing all that would be very malleable.
• 1:14:26
  Just joking aside because I don't want to be near him next
• 1:14:29
  to a ring. Yeah.
• 1:14:30
  Just I just see him. Oh, hell no, I don't want to get
• 1:14:32
  in the ring with cowboy. You beat the hell out of me.
• 1:14:35
  You can go. Now you guys think I'm a
• 1:14:36
  stretches of people don't know. Cowboys a different level bro.
• 1:14:39
  Yeah, he's amazing animal. I shake his hand.
• 1:14:41
  I'm like please God don't grip me up and bring me in.
• 1:14:44
  You know, I see what I'm not as hot.
• 1:14:46
  One guy shot are like really shoot on him or half.
• 1:14:49
  I've asked you to put like a choke on him.
• 1:14:51
  Cowboy immediately is to say that, but we'll put him in the
• 1:14:53
  hole and grab them by his Like, if you ever tried to choke me
• 1:14:56
  out again? I'll kill you.
• 1:14:58
  And then, like, I will rot if the guy like after just got out
• 1:15:02
  of the ring and cowboy, just took his mask off and like
• 1:15:04
  nothing happened the winter. It was like, I don't brother, I
• 1:15:07
  say it's scary man. Scary man.
• 1:15:11
  What an amazing man? Says those hands are evil.
• 1:15:19
  Put those hands. Make a lot of people very good.
• 1:15:21
  Oh yeah, yeah yeah. Jesus first ever Women's gcw
• 1:15:28
  Champion. Yeah, the best.
• 1:15:30
  The best. Hell yeah, I'd really impacting
• 1:15:32
  to pull the goddamn trigger on her, I think so.
• 1:15:34
  But I think they will. I think they will.
• 1:15:36
  Oh my God. That impacts.
• 1:15:38
  Women's division is Loki so good, not when it's amazing.
• 1:15:42
  Bro. What's the women's division
• 1:15:44
  impact is so good between her Mickie, James, Jordan Grace,
• 1:15:48
  like d, I'm like, yes, I love them.
• 1:15:50
  Hayes impact. So underrated please.
• 1:15:52
  More people watch impact. It's on its Underrated what
• 1:15:55
  they're doing. I know there's one guy, right?
• 1:15:58
  He's a Gleason's guy that I'm not I'm not a huge fan of.
• 1:16:01
  I got to be honest. I thought Bubba, I have a hard
• 1:16:06
  time with Bubba. Bubba Ray.
• 1:16:09
  I respect everything he's done in this business.
• 1:16:11
  I respect who he is as a person. Like that.
• 1:16:12
  Really Gleason's guy, though. Always not know.
• 1:16:16
  We got, he came to train, but he never did.
• 1:16:19
  Or maybe I do maybe like a month.
• 1:16:21
  Yeah, I think he thought. Stories.
• 1:16:25
  Like I heard of his story that he came for, like, a month and
• 1:16:27
  left and I heard like, sir from Johnny himself and he said, no,
• 1:16:29
  he just came and talked to me, but he never showed up with the
• 1:16:32
  money after he was somebody else?
• 1:16:34
  That makes sense because he didn't have the characteristics
• 1:16:36
  of a Gleason's guy. No, he's not.
• 1:16:37
  He was taught by Devon, which is Johnny guy.
• 1:16:40
  So he's kind of technically. Yeah, but yeah, I just, I don't
• 1:16:43
  know. He annoys me sometimes, but I
• 1:16:45
  respect that and I respect him in the ring and stuff.
• 1:16:47
  But there's some things I seen personally behind curtains, and
• 1:16:50
  I was just like, all right, some stuff to hear.
• 1:16:52
  I'll tell you after often, not A fan.
• 1:16:56
  But Tommy Dreamer. What?
• 1:16:57
  A sweetheart that guy that guy. Yeah, I met him in the end when
• 1:17:01
  they invited me to the show. He's cool but that'll do it
• 1:17:04
  everybody. Thank you so much.
• 1:17:05
  We'll be back next. Monday Monday at 7:00 8:00.
• 1:17:13
  SI Lok will be on the podcast. Oh, I forgot, I forgot to
• 1:17:17
  mention. He taught me so much to.
• 1:17:20
  Yeah, it was my first match of the sanctuary.
• 1:17:22
  Yes, he was. That's right.
• 1:17:23
  Yeah, it's crazy. She'll come in the sanctuary.
• 1:17:27
  That was really fun. He would bring his kid, his
• 1:17:29
  cruel. Kids are so good to fucking TJ.
• 1:17:31
  Do something. All these guys, all of them, but
• 1:17:36
  we'll see you guys next time. Thank you so much for everyone
• 1:17:38
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• 1:18:00
  with more and interviews and eight, SI Lok, and we're out of
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  here.