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Red and Blue: Jarom Jordan on his Seahawks winning the Super Bowl, BYU men's basketball struggles + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 2: Gonna give Jarem Jordan his space to say whatever he
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  Speaker 2: wants to say about the game that happened, just a
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  Speaker 2: Jerem Jordan, Welcome to the show. How are you I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna take my medicine listening to a Seahawks fane.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't even sweat, dude, that was so easy.
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  Speaker 3: And on the Niners field, that was like the best
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  Speaker 3: thing ever.
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  Speaker 1: What a lame game. That was just boring. It's gonna
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  Speaker 1: go down elite.
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  Speaker 3: I saw elite defense for the entertainment crowd. I get it,
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  Speaker 3: I get it. But yeah, it was domination. Man.
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  Speaker 4: That was awesome.
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  Speaker 2: I think we're just gonna forget this super Bowl. Ever
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  Speaker 2: happened is what's gonna happen. That's how it's going to
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  Speaker 2: play out.
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  Speaker 4: Don't ignore it when it's not convenient, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Con Gratsy, you and all the other Seahawks fans. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it was.
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  Speaker 2: It was a complete performance. It was a great game
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  Speaker 2: from Seattle's defense. Especially. Did you think Kenneth was going
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  Speaker 2: to be the Super Bowl MVP?
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  Speaker 3: I did, But I thought it would have been interesting
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  Speaker 3: if they had given it to Jason Myers as the kicker,
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  Speaker 3: Like that would have been Gnarley Kenneth, runner of the
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  Speaker 3: Thirdest we call him in my house.
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  Speaker 4: He yeah, he deserved it for sure, like and and
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  Speaker 4: that was awesome.
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  Speaker 3: His dad had never been to a game, you know,
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  Speaker 3: this whole season, and he was there and Zach Sharpen
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  Speaker 3: had the backup, had hurt his knee, he wasn't available.
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  Speaker 3: So it was awesome and like Sam Darnold completed the
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  Speaker 3: greatest kind of comeback story for a quarterback ever that was.
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  Speaker 4: That was awesome.
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  Speaker 3: It gives you a hope that you know, they for
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  Speaker 3: I don't know people in your life kind of thing.
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  Speaker 4: But also like.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, the equivalent of this for BYU, you know,
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  Speaker 3: just thinking about it in a BOI perspective was like
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  Speaker 3: if Zach Wilson won the Super Bowl in like six
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  Speaker 3: years or something after a couple of different teams, It's like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: there is hope that if you take care of the
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  Speaker 3: football and you have a good defense and run game,
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  Speaker 3: like you can do it. And you know, I was
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  Speaker 3: thinking about, okay, what does this mean for b A.
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  Speaker 3: The BA model of operation last year was great defense,
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  Speaker 3: great run game, that want to take out of football
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  Speaker 3: and that's how Seattle did it, and that's how BYU
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  Speaker 3: went twelve and two, and the winning formula it really
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  Speaker 3: does win a lot of games. It's rarely the spread
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  Speaker 3: tempo team that wins championships.
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  Speaker 2: It's really interesting because you know, that was one of
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  Speaker 2: the things I noticed about the game, right It was
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  Speaker 2: like that was if you taugh football, we're going to
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  Speaker 2: win a Super Bowl. That's how you tugh football would
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  Speaker 2: win a Super Bowl. And there's so many people that
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  Speaker 2: are like, yes, oh, that's such a boring we.
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  Speaker 1: Don't like that.
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  Speaker 2: You know, if you want to be you know, bringing
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  Speaker 2: in the top recruits, now, you got to spread it
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  Speaker 2: out a little bit more, which is probably true. But
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  Speaker 2: oftentimes the best teams in college football in the NFL,
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  Speaker 2: certainly this year was a great example of it. It's
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  Speaker 2: just like, you don't need some megastar quarterback who's making
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  Speaker 2: all these crazy plays. You need a bunch of really
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  Speaker 2: good guys who fundamentally play very very well, and you
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  Speaker 2: got to be physical upfront. And that's what Seattle was,
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  Speaker 2: and that's what Indiana was, and that's what Texas Tech
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  Speaker 2: and BYU were in in the Big Twelve Conference.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't mean you don't have playmakers, you know what
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  Speaker 3: I mean? Like jsn was the offensive player of the
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  Speaker 3: Year in the NFL, and Kenneth Flark the third was
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  Speaker 3: one of the best running backs in the league and
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  Speaker 3: a good old line and yeah, but like you have
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  Speaker 3: to go inside out, like the Patriots got destroyed on
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  Speaker 3: the O line and lot some of that was scheme,
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  Speaker 3: like Devin Witherspoon was in that backfield quite a bit.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, when when bad Bunny rushes for more yards
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  Speaker 3: at halftime than your team, like, that's not good.
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  Speaker 1: The bad Bunny.
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  Speaker 2: Uh what was it the advanced metrics that said he
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  Speaker 2: went like for like.
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  Speaker 3: Or something next stat Yes, so good.
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  Speaker 2: Alright, so let's get off of that lame game that again. People,
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  Speaker 2: the annals of NFL history will just forget ever happened.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, figure out your electrical station first before you.
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  Speaker 4: No joy about that.
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  Speaker 1: No joke.
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  Speaker 2: I want them to now just relocate everything, move the
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  Speaker 2: practice field, implode the stadium. The Seahawks, your division rival,
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  Speaker 2: celebrated the Super Bowl victory in your locker room.
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  Speaker 1: You can't wash that stank out. You just got to
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  Speaker 1: get rid of the place.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, that's hey, it is, it is what it is.
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  Speaker 3: It was funny having Fred Warner on the pregame show.
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  Speaker 3: I thought Fred or in halftime stuff, I thought Fred
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  Speaker 3: did a spectacular job.
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  Speaker 4: He's got a future in that if he wants.
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  Speaker 2: How does that guy so good at currently being a
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  Speaker 2: great football player and also camber ready and could jump
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  Speaker 2: into you know, analysis if he wanted to, like tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: First off, he's just he's a good looking dude.
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  Speaker 4: He's a good dude.
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  Speaker 3: His first interview, by the way, he came in and
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  Speaker 3: as a wide eyed freshman prior to fall camp on
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  Speaker 3: Boy Sports Nation, and we were excited about him because
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  Speaker 3: he was this four star that told USC no and
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  Speaker 3: came to BYU and were like, this is great.
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  Speaker 4: He's got a younger brother.
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  Speaker 3: We want to get him a couple of years too.
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  Speaker 3: And so yeah, seeing him that first day versus like
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  Speaker 3: he's on the Super Bowl coverage and he's the best
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  Speaker 3: middle linebacker in the league and he's going to be
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  Speaker 3: a Hall of Famer. He's probably the best defensive player
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  Speaker 3: if you always ever had in the NFL. That is like,
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  Speaker 3: I'm just I'm happy for him. And he was funny
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  Speaker 3: because he's like, I hate to give the Seahawks a compliment,
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  Speaker 3: but and then he would talk about the dark side
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  Speaker 3: and what they were doing.
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  Speaker 4: So he did a great job.
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  Speaker 3: Shout out to Fred, he's awesome. Onluce, it was fun
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  Speaker 3: to see him in that commercial with Puka, like two
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  Speaker 3: of our boys together in the NFL doing great work.
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  Speaker 1: I don't you just brought him up.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm going to put it out there and that
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  Speaker 2: like Pooka.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody he's going to talk with Pooka.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, Pookah's continuing to I know that he's young,
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  Speaker 2: and you can party and do dumb stuff when you're young.
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  Speaker 2: But it's like he lives in LA and the tabloid
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  Speaker 2: media is now going to be following him around because
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  Speaker 2: he gives him a little bit of fodder.
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  Speaker 1: What can we do to help Pooka here?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, maybe a little less kind of public
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  Speaker 3: appearance kind of stuff with might be helpful. Love Pooka,
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  Speaker 3: love the family obviously, you know, you want to keep
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  Speaker 3: it within a certain parameters that are probably good for
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  Speaker 3: him and everyone around.
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  Speaker 4: But I love Pookah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Hopefully, again, he's young, he's the best receiver in the league,
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  Speaker 2: at least in his age group. He can he'll hopefully
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  Speaker 2: figure it out. But uh, fewer cameras following you is better, Pookah,
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  Speaker 2: So try to achieve that.
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  Speaker 4: If you can't, all right, we're just lucky. We're lucky.
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  Speaker 4: There was no social media when Jim was at Uyu,
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  Speaker 4: you know.
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  Speaker 3: Just like it's nowadays, it's hard to uh stay private, right.
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  Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean honestly social When did social media
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  Speaker 2: like the ubiquitous Everyone has a camera phone and is
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  Speaker 2: paying attention to you. So that was like a twenty
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  Speaker 2: ten kind of thing, right, I.
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  Speaker 3: Mean yeah, like Twitter started on nine yeah, ten, Like
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  Speaker 3: when Jim or you know, tours forty three Inas Santay
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  Speaker 3: State and Kevin Durantz tweeting by Jammer, It's like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: we're all like commenting on what each other is doing
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  Speaker 3: and it's not on the MySpace page anymore. Like that's
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  Speaker 3: when it kind of went to the next level.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so some of the some of the greats had
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  Speaker 2: both schools, that went through both schools, never had to
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  Speaker 2: deal with any of that.
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  Speaker 3: Most of the great No, it's unique, and part of
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  Speaker 3: it is like part of the reason Puka is gonna
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  Speaker 3: get maybe the richest contract of any receiverever is because
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  Speaker 3: of it. You just have to manage the good of
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  Speaker 3: that and the bad of that.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's talk some BYU hoop. All right, this
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  Speaker 2: is UH is an interesting team right now? Is give
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  Speaker 2: me the level of optimism, excitement, panic, whatever. How is
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  Speaker 2: the fan base and the university atmosphere feeling about this
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  Speaker 2: BYU basketball experiment here in twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly a little bit of cause for concern. First
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  Speaker 3: four game losing streak in a while. By the way,
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  Speaker 3: BOI hasn't lost five games in a row. That's at
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  Speaker 3: stake tonight since two thousand and five. Dave Rose and
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  Speaker 3: Mark Pope never had a five game losing streak, which
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  Speaker 3: is crazy. Granted, this losing streak is different. Arizona, Kansas,
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  Speaker 3: and Houston are in it. Those are three of the
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  Speaker 3: probably six teams in the country, so a little unfair
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  Speaker 3: that these three are stacked together in that way. Oklahoma
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  Speaker 3: State was disappointing. BoA's not supposed to lose that kind
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  Speaker 3: of game, But to the committee, it is a quad
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  Speaker 3: one loss. It's not actually gonna denim that Bad BOI
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  Speaker 3: does not have a quad two to three or four loss.
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  Speaker 3: They have Quad one losses. They have four Quad one wins,
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  Speaker 3: which is good. That's kind of top twenty in the country.
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  Speaker 3: But the rub is the expectation for this team was
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  Speaker 3: that it would be like a one, two or three seed.
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  Speaker 3: Right now they're a six seed with Lonardi, they're kind
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  Speaker 3: of a five seed. Generally speaking, I still think BOI
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  Speaker 3: can salvage a five seed here. If you are a
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  Speaker 3: six seed, it's not the worst thing in the world
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  Speaker 3: because an eighty one with Age and last year with
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  Speaker 3: Byu they were a six and that has led to
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  Speaker 3: two of the three Sweet sixteens for BOI, So it's
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  Speaker 3: not historically the worst thing ever.
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  Speaker 4: But it is a tough schedule.
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  Speaker 3: He got Baylor tonight, which is a quad one game.
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  Speaker 3: BOI just a slight favorite in that one. Colorado Boi
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  Speaker 3: should dominate on Saturday. Jimmerferdet getting new Jersey retired.
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  Speaker 4: That'll be cool.
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  Speaker 3: At Arizona home to Iowa State next week is massive.
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  Speaker 3: Those are two top ten teams UCF, West Virginia Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 3: You're hoping he can get three wins there, although that's
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  Speaker 3: swing to West Virginia and Cincinnati's tricky. Texas Tech is
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  Speaker 3: your final home game. So you've got three of the
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  Speaker 3: top four in the final eight. It's not as tough
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  Speaker 3: as Arizona schedule, which is crazy. Go look at that one,
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  Speaker 3: but it is tough. I'm hoping Boa can go five
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  Speaker 3: and three in that if they do. I believe they
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  Speaker 3: will get a five seed in the NCAA tournament. So
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  Speaker 3: all not lost, It's just not what the expectation was.
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  Speaker 3: I was hoping by would be great. Right now, they're
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  Speaker 3: good to very good. They have a chance to kind
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  Speaker 3: of put themselves in a good spot in the tourney
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  Speaker 3: with the four or five seed. They played a good
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  Speaker 3: non conference, but they've got to fix the defense. Richie
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  Speaker 3: Saunders and Canard Davis didn't make shots on Saturday. AJ's
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  Speaker 3: been awesome that Like, I don't know that we can
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  Speaker 3: ask AJ to do much more. Rob Right the third
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  Speaker 3: tonight is getting his unwelcome back to Waco moment, So
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  Speaker 3: that'll be emotional on both ends probably, and so Boa
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  Speaker 3: needs to win tonight. Don't think they can lose tonight
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  Speaker 3: and feel like, yeah, everything's still great, like it's gonna
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  Speaker 3: be okay.
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  Speaker 4: You need to win tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Did you see or hear Scott Drew's comments about the
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  Speaker 2: Rob Right situation ahead of this came.
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  Speaker 4: Well, when he signs a contract, it would have been nice.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah I did, and I get it, And
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  Speaker 3: he would have been the only returner by the way,
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  Speaker 3: like everybody left, and so that I get why he's upset.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Oklahoma State situation, obviously you don't want to
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  Speaker 2: see your team lose a game on the road. Obviously
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  Speaker 2: more disappointing because of again the bleep the Mormons chant
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  Speaker 2: in the crowd, and I, as a non member of
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  Speaker 2: the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints, I
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  Speaker 2: probably get bothered more by it than a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people who are church going members. It rubs me the
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  Speaker 2: wrong way aggressively, jerem. And when I see a fifty
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  Speaker 2: thousand dollars fine and kind of a delayed response from
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  Speaker 2: everyone involved, I again I probab. Like my wife is
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  Speaker 2: a member of the church, I get more mad about
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  Speaker 2: this than she does. Is the Big Twelve doing enough?
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  Speaker 2: Is Oklahoma State doing enough? Is anybody doing enough to
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  Speaker 2: stop this from being a narrative in the Big Twelve conference?
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  Speaker 3: I'm wondering if anything will actually change unless there's an
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  Speaker 3: in game, on court, on the field penalty of some kind,
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  Speaker 3: Because okay, it's fifty k. First off, who gets that money?
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  Speaker 3: I'm not saying by you should, I'm saying like, where
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  Speaker 3: does it go?
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  Speaker 4: What?
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  Speaker 3: And should that amount be higher? Like we just can't
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  Speaker 3: have that much hate for a religion, if they say
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  Speaker 3: f BYU, that's totally different, and honestly, I wouldn't even
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  Speaker 3: bat deny it that. But when you bring religion into it,
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  Speaker 3: it's not okay.
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  Speaker 4: It's not okay.
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  Speaker 3: And honestly, my replies are full of hate from a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people, which is not okay. I don't wake
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  Speaker 3: up seeking hate like I wake up seeking love. Like
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  Speaker 3: we should just compete and love one another and have
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  Speaker 3: fun because life's hard enough without that.
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  Speaker 4: We don't need to add that to it.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm wondering if one the number needs to be
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  Speaker 3: higher on the f line and then two in game,
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  Speaker 3: if you all of a sudden you hear.
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  Speaker 4: It, do you do something?
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  Speaker 3: But it is a little tricky to sort of adjudicate
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  Speaker 3: in the moment. Was it fifteen students or was it
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  Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty or was it two thousand, Like
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  Speaker 3: it's hard to know sometimes, But yeah, it this should
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  Speaker 3: not be tolerated, and I don't think it's going to
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  Speaker 3: stop unless there's something in game that occurs.
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  Speaker 1: I think you're probably right.
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  Speaker 2: And again, the BYU does not need me to be
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  Speaker 2: its champion and wouldn't choose me to be its champion.
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  Speaker 1: But uh, the.
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  Speaker 2: But the idea that you know, it is somewhat shrugged
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  Speaker 2: at because it's the Mormon faith instead of I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: the Catholic faith or the Jewish faith or whatever. It's
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  Speaker 2: just so wild given the context of what BYU has
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  Speaker 2: attempted to do from whatever a pr standpoint, a service standpoint.
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  Speaker 2: In the football season, every single week we had stories
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  Speaker 2: a BYU and BYU fans and BYU community going above
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  Speaker 2: and beyond to support you know, a Texas Tech team
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  Speaker 2: barber or a food bank at Iowa State or whatever
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  Speaker 2: it was. And yet this is still the response. I
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  Speaker 2: truly don't understand it. As someone who lived here for
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  Speaker 2: most of my life and again a non member, a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people in my position found reasons to feel
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  Speaker 2: some hate or to have some problems. I just don't
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  Speaker 2: get it, and I don't get why the Big twelve
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  Speaker 2: doesn't take it more seriously.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't equate sort of the entire fan base
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  Speaker 3: of that school when it happens, because there have been
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  Speaker 3: several over the last five ten years, right and historically,
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  Speaker 3: I don't equate it to the whole fan base. I
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  Speaker 3: assume it's going to be, you know, one hundred students
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  Speaker 3: hot in the moment on the road during the game.
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  Speaker 3: So but with that said, we do need to there
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  Speaker 3: needs to be a certain amount of intolerance when it
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  Speaker 3: comes to this kind of thing, right, we can't tolerate
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  Speaker 3: everything that's crazy. We need there needs to be a
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  Speaker 3: certain amount of intolerance. I appreciate that the Big twelve
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  Speaker 3: steps in and does it, but isn't enough. Probably not
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  Speaker 3: because it continues to happen. So what's what's the league
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  Speaker 3: going to do? And I know that league is very
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  Speaker 3: appreciative and supportive of kind of what Boy does as
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  Speaker 3: a unique private Christian institution and so on and so forth.
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  Speaker 3: Hopefully we can figure something out and just compete and
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  Speaker 3: get on with our lives, because yeah, Boy fans don't
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  Speaker 3: want this, and I'm sure the administration with the league
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  Speaker 3: and then the schools don't want these kinds of things either.
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  Speaker 3: We want to compete and have fun.
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  Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, it's like, all.
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  Speaker 3: Right, we all go home and hopefully we're safe emotionally
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: and physically.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: Here the I.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: Started the show today talking about a Big twelve basketball
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: game last night where Darren Peterson didn't play, and I
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: probably was being completely unfair to the kid, because I'm like,
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: you're the number one team in the countries in your place,
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: and you're out because you're There are very few sickness
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: symptoms that I find to be worthy of sitting out
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: of a game like that. But you know, we put
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: him in the same conversation that we put Aj Debonce in,
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: and you know Camboos are in and some of these
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: other guys that are near the top of the projected draft,
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: and I feel like unavailability, the fact that that guy's
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: miss games, miss games against top five teams, should be
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: counted against him one way or another, fairly or not.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: In this upcoming thing. AJ has been largely available. And
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know what he's dealing with from a bumps
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: and bruises or a sickness's standpoint or anything. But should
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: AJ's availability, for lack of a better term, make him
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: more appealing to NBA teams relative to the elite elite
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: competition he faces in that NBA projection, I would think so.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: And I'm with you, like I did not understand why
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: he didn't play.
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: It's like you can't.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: Even try, Like it's that bad you shouldn't be warming up.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: Then if you can't warm up, then you can't play.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: If you can warm up a little bit, you should
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: releast try, dude, just emotionally, that would have given your
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: team an injection to life. But they figured it out
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: without him, and frankly, they're.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: Used to this. They played half the games without them,
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: and Kansas showed up.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: Man, they were Melvin Council, Florid Badunga, those guys were
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: on it.
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: Man, it was crazy.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: I made sure that was destination viewing, Like I watched
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: it with my family. I'm like, you guys, watch this game.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: This is a great college basketball game. Now the football
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: is over, like college basketball sort of owns the next
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: kind of eight weeks and then we get into the
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: NBA playoffs and then we get into more baseball and
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: then football comes back. Like that's our flow. And it
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: was a great game. And I think Kansas is super dangerous,
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: Like if they can do that without they're in Peterson,
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: it's wild and Alan field House was electric. BOI walked
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: into that and felt that too a couple of weeks ago,
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: and Arizona was like, they're a great team. They needed
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: a loss like that, like they might not lose, they
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: might lose one more in the regular season or whatever.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: But that's a good team in a still be battle tested.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: But I'm with you, Like back to your question. If
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: I'm an NBA team, I'm the Wizards and I'm getting
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: the number one pick, do I want that guy? I
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: would rather have a guy you know he's gonna play,
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: unless you're gonna thank for a couple of years. But like,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: is this how he is?
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: Always?
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: Is that just this year because of actual injuries, but
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: the sickness thing now adds to it. He just unfortunately
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: looks kind of flaky and uh, you know, hope that
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: he can get healthy and stuff, because honestly, like he's
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: he's the most polished offensive player in the country I think,
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: but like AJ has a higher ceiling to me. And
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: then Gamboozer is like gonna be super rock solid. I
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: think we see what he is and it's really good.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: It's a great draft.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: Kingston Flemings is right there as well, Like three of
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: the top five picks are probably coming from the Big twelve,
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: which is really fun. Yeah, I'm with you.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: I think he.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: Probably should be dent to a little bit for not
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: being as available as the other guys are.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Which winter Olympic sport do you make yourself into a
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: two week expert on.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Oh nice, I haven't watched as much as I thought.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: I I do like.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: Hockey already, so I'll go outside of hockey, like curling
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: probably like last night when it's like the last stone
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: is thrown you have to take down Italy like that
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: was awesome, like clear, clear, clear, you know they're yelling now.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, oh that was a great throw
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: is a great I don't know, scrub or whatever it is, like, yeah,
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: I love the memes that are like me at home
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: on the couch eating a box of doughnuts, like seeing
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: someone fail in a Winter Olympics fort pathetic.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's right, yes, yes, it's the old dodgeball with
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: bed steelers all fat or whatever.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you were going eighty one miles an hour down
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: the ski hill and you fell loser.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh my gosh.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: Well yeah with like Darren Peterson idiot play six, someone
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: goes Lindsay von Skid on a torn acl like it's like,
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: what are we talking about?
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: Which is crazy? Right, like that's steaks. She broke her tibo.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: But I was like American Hero forever already was But
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: good gosh.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the statement that comes out just the by
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: the way, it's a complex fracture that's going to require
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: multiple surgeries. You're like, man, that is a rough thirteen
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: seconds of skiing. That is really, oh my god, really
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: bad deal.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Like I after she announced she was gonna scales, like, sorry,
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: what you're doing?
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: What?
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Tom Hombo somehow didn't have an AC on one of
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: his knees, by the way, and played his career in
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: the NFL, is like how does that work?
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: Like what?
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never under said to hold a white corner
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: in the NFL, no ACL, and he survived? Like how
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: did that? You know?
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: I need to get an orthopedistant to talk about this
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: because it's one of the most like casual toss aside
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: type storylines when you're just like, oh, yeah, so and
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: so has been playing on a on a ruptured ACL
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: for two years now. You're like, wait, no, I thought
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: that wasn't physically possible. Everyone else immediately has them surgically repaired.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: And then you hear about these guys like oh, yeah,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: I played my senior or high school I had no ACL.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Then how did you run? I thought that was I
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: thought that's like not having a foot.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: That's why I love sports, like just the humanity of
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: it all. That's great, and like the Olympics are probably
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: the best showcase that exists in terms of like this
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: random dude that works at home depot it's a gold
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: medalist and TVD sport like it's awesome.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Man, all right, Jerem, always appreciate your time. Thanks for
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: joining us.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: Hey, good luck against Houston tonight.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: I will say the same for you against Baylor kind
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: of even if I don't really feel it.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: That's Jerem Jordan.
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