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INTERVIEW: Matthew McConaughey Talks Spirituality, Cynicism, Ditching Romcoms For Dramas, Poems, Prayers + More · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: Every day up waiting, click your ass up the Breakfast
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Speaker 3: Yep, it's the one, the most dangerous morning show, the
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Speaker 3: Breakfast Club. Charlamagea God just hilarious. DJ Envy is not here,
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Speaker 3: but Layen l Rossa is. And you know, every now
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Speaker 3: and in here on the Breakfast Club we like to
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Speaker 3: give up and coming talent a shot.
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Speaker 1: And today we have a man who.
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Speaker 3: Is entering this industry and trying his hand at poetry.
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Speaker 3: He goes by the name of Matthew. Is that that mconnaugh.
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Speaker 1: Mcconagie, Mcconagieye rhymes with what would Madonna's how are you man?
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Speaker 1: I'm good man, good morning.
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Speaker 3: He's got a new book out, Poems in Prayers available now.
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Speaker 3: Most folks know you for movies, they know you for speeches.
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Speaker 3: I don't know if they necessarily know you for poetry.
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Speaker 3: What made you want to put your thoughts in the
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Speaker 3: Poems in Prayers instead of another book?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So, out the last few years, I started finding
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Speaker 1: myself getting a little bit cynical. I mean, doubt was
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Speaker 1: creeping in on me on my own faith, belief and myself.
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Speaker 1: And you know, mankind. I'm looking at the new I'm
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Speaker 1: looking at leadership, and I'm going like, huh, all right,
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Speaker 1: it seems that jackpot goes to the winner, no matter
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Speaker 1: if they lie cheating still to get it. Seems a
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Speaker 1: lot of us are kicking the game when it feels going,
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Speaker 1: someone's moving the gold posts, and you know, are we
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Speaker 1: ready to say, okay, that's how it is? And I
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Speaker 1: think this doubt crept in on me. I started to say, well,
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Speaker 1: maybe that's just how it is. That scared me, and
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Speaker 1: then thankfully it then pissed me off, and I said, no, no, no, no, no,
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Speaker 1: I'm not ready to wave the white flag here and
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Speaker 1: concede and say that's the way things are going. So
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Speaker 1: since I wasn't finding belief in reality and evidence, I said,
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Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going to go to dreams and ideals, poems,
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Speaker 1: prayers and say, you know, let's not forget that beginner's
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Speaker 1: my McConaughey, and let's grab a hold of those ideals
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Speaker 1: and try to make those a reality. And because you know,
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Speaker 1: that's cynicism, I'd always swore to myself, you know, you born,
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Speaker 1: you're innocent, then you're naive, then you're skeptical because you
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Speaker 1: learn some things and you're discerning and make some decisions.
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Speaker 1: The next step, though, seems to be when we go
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Speaker 1: over the cliff to being cynical, doubting people, not giving
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Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt. You start doing that enough,
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Speaker 1: you know what happens. You look in the mirror, you
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Speaker 1: do the same damn thing with yourself, and so it's
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Speaker 1: an early early death. And so that's what I found
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Speaker 1: myself getting. So I went to poems to prayers.
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Speaker 3: You said something earlier, you said, you know, people think
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Speaker 3: that they're getting the jackpot here, right, But you got
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Speaker 3: a poem in the book called the Other Day, I wrote,
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Speaker 3: wrote God a letter, And I feel like that's what
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Speaker 3: you have to do. You have to return back the
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Speaker 3: source because the jackpot probably isn't here, but we consider
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Speaker 3: that jackpot it's a mortal one exactly.
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Speaker 1: It's a it's a yeah, it's a it's a talisman,
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Speaker 1: or it's it's it's it's something that we that we
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Speaker 1: bow down to, and we're sold it every day as
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Speaker 1: being the chalice. Which I think we got to think longer, further,
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Speaker 1: project further, believe in God or not. I think we
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Speaker 1: got to do that, you know, because I'm talking about belief.
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Speaker 1: For me, I'm working on my belief in God. But
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Speaker 1: I think if anybody believes in their better self, their kids,
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Speaker 1: or if you don't know what to believe in, I'll
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Speaker 1: like say, ask yourself, who are what you die for?
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Speaker 1: Start there. It's a good spot, probably what you would
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Speaker 1: be living more for, you know, double down on that bet.
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Speaker 1: And but you know, as a believer myself in God,
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Speaker 1: I've got a hunch and I'm playing for a you know,
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Speaker 1: trying to cross an immortal, immortal finish line more than
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Speaker 1: just the ones that are you can win right here?
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Speaker 4: You know, is this book passion project for you? Because
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Speaker 4: you actually have a movie coming out on Friday, but
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Speaker 4: you're instead promoting a book. Was this passion project?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean, look like I said, I wrote it
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Speaker 1: because the you know, I was tired of looking at
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Speaker 1: the evidence and and and I didn't feel like writing
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Speaker 1: another book like green Lights, but this would be a
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Speaker 1: sister of green Lights. Yeah, I wrote it. It came
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Speaker 1: out all of a sudden. It was at the same time,
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Speaker 1: Hey that's gonna come out. You got a movie coming
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Speaker 1: out Lost Bus the same time. Don't we parlay that
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Speaker 1: situation hit the road, talk about poems and prayers, do
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Speaker 1: some shows, which I did my first show last night
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Speaker 1: in Brooklyn, and at the same time talk about the
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Speaker 1: lost bus. If you snap after you did your phone,
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Speaker 1: I don't think I had any snaps.
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Speaker 5: You finished?
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Speaker 1: Were?
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Speaker 5: They just quiet?
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Speaker 1: They stood and applauded. It was It was cool. It
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Speaker 1: was the first show to get it on its feet.
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Speaker 1: And h you have doing a little little tour with this.
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Speaker 1: And we did Brooklyn last night. And I go out
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Speaker 1: and I get like an opening twenty five minute sermon
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Speaker 1: set on the table. Then I'm by a musical guest
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Speaker 1: out and they're playing scores underneath about twelve of the
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Speaker 1: poems last night, John Mind, Jovie came out, going to
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Speaker 1: Nashville today and Lucas Nelson. I don't like that little
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Speaker 1: light flex you did. That's just nothing right.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Joy came out right.
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Speaker 1: We jammed going to Nashville tonight, Lucas Nelson, a friend
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Speaker 1: of Mine's coming out, go to Tulsa from there, Zach
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Speaker 1: Bryan's coming out, go to La John Mayer's coming out,
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Speaker 1: and then I returned to Austin and uh from my
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Speaker 1: hometown and John Batiste up and comers. Yeah yeah, And
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Speaker 1: all I said was can I get a couple of
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Speaker 1: chords under the reads kind of underscore and I will
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Speaker 1: see how they go. But last night John My Joey
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Speaker 1: did a hell a lot more than put a couple
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Speaker 1: of chords down. He wrote some songs. Wow. Yeah, it
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Speaker 1: was neat.
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Speaker 6: I read somewhere to tell me this is true at
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Speaker 6: one point in time. Because you're big on God now
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Speaker 6: and your faith. You talk a lot about it, but
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Speaker 6: you didn't believe in I.
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Speaker 5: Got it one.
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Speaker 1: I've had my years of not believing. I've had a
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Speaker 1: couple of them that went on for probably two years
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Speaker 1: where I was like, no, self reliance is it. I'm
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Speaker 1: responsible for me. I'm not relying on any more fate,
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Speaker 1: forgiveness and all that ship I've got to I've got.
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Speaker 1: It's about me. I gotta be self reliant. And I
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Speaker 1: look back, I'm glad I did it, and I and
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Speaker 1: I and they were very healthy for me. And when
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Speaker 1: I came back to God, I heard God applaud and going,
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Speaker 1: thank you for having your hands on the wheel, thank
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Speaker 1: you for having the courage to go. It is on you,
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Speaker 1: because I got too many people relying on fate alone,
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Speaker 1: and it is a combination. And I don't think that,
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Speaker 1: you know, we self, reliance and faith usually are talk out.
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Speaker 1: We can't. They butt heads and I don't my hunches.
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Speaker 1: They don't that it's both. You know, it's free will
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Speaker 1: and it's fate. And while you know we do something,
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Speaker 1: is it already written divinely? Maybe? But do we have
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Speaker 1: something to do with it? And do we need to
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Speaker 1: have our hands on the wheel with the choices we make?
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Speaker 1: And they are up to us? I believe so as well.
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Speaker 3: So did you have faith and you lost it and
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Speaker 3: got it back or you never had it and.
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Speaker 1: Then no had it strong? But then also you know
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Speaker 1: questioning that you know, you grow up, you know, it
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Speaker 1: becomes sometimes it's a ritual. You know, there's many sermons
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Speaker 1: from my preacher on Sunday that I don't wasn't listen
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Speaker 1: to what he said. But the ritual of getting up
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Speaker 1: on Sunday morning, going to church, you know, being reminded
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Speaker 1: and being humbled that you're at most number two today
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Speaker 1: and then prayers before meals that ritual. You know, you
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Speaker 1: get older, you start to question, well, okay, what does
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Speaker 1: that mean? And I want it to be more than
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Speaker 1: just ingrained in me, like like getting married. I didn't
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Speaker 1: want to ask Camilla to get married because it's that
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Speaker 1: thing to do. I want to wait until I felt like, Okay,
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Speaker 1: now that's a covenant I want to I want to
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Speaker 1: make with God and Camilla and we want to go forward,
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Speaker 1: and I want to take that adventure forward. So the
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Speaker 1: same thing with faith. I've questioned it along the way.
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Speaker 1: And I love philosophy and I love science, you know
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Speaker 1: what I mean. And I'm not sure with the Bible
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Speaker 1: what to do with the burn and bush, But there's
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Speaker 1: a whole lot of ethics and ways to live and
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Speaker 1: approach life and signpost in it that whether you're agnostic,
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Speaker 1: whether you believe or not, there's a lot of great
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Speaker 1: things to find in that book, as well as the
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Speaker 1: Koran and many other books. So I've questioned my faith
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Speaker 1: along the way.
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Speaker 3: In the existence of God, well brought you back with
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Speaker 3: it like a mel Gibsons and signs moment less.
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Speaker 1: Sure. Okay, One time was was quite literal. It was
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Speaker 1: the lightning bolt in the middle of a blue sky
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Speaker 1: summer that I'm like, what cloud did that come from?
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Speaker 1: Where it shook my floor? Where Mother Nature, God or
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Speaker 1: whatever reminded me. Okay, just letting you know. Glad you
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Speaker 1: glad you think it's all on you. I'm reminding you
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Speaker 1: that use a little speck right now. You know it
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Speaker 1: was actual lightning bolt. Actual. Yeah. I was out out
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Speaker 1: in the middle of the desert. I had I had
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Speaker 1: a micro climate cloud come over this little cabin. I
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Speaker 1: was in the desert. This was on Mother's Day. It
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Speaker 1: was eighty two degrees at noon and at two pm
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Speaker 1: this cloud came over. It rained, it held, it snowed
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Speaker 1: on me. In a one hundred yard circumference around the cabin.
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Speaker 1: I was at white snow two inches deep in lightning bolts.
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Speaker 1: What you found Mother's Day?
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Speaker 5: Like you were awaiting you felt snow like this happened.
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Speaker 1: This is real? No, And I was completely sober. I'm
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Speaker 1: not saying no, no, no, no, no no. I was
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Speaker 1: having my first cup of coffee watching this go down,
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Speaker 1: and uh. I then looked up and as I said,
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Speaker 1: walk to the edge. It was only around the cabin
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Speaker 1: I was at. I went into town. Nobody was like
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Speaker 1: snowed brough was it? No? We did could snowed? You
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Speaker 1: talk about it? And I taken pictures and like when's
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Speaker 1: that from It was like that's today, and it was
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Speaker 1: like this is impossible. That couldn't have happened. I was like,
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Speaker 1: it happened on top of me. And that was right
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Speaker 1: at the time I went out and again the lightning
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Speaker 1: bolt at the time when I'm saying I don't believe
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Speaker 1: bam wow, And I went, oh, excuse me, maybe I
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Speaker 1: need to Oh, I'm here. I hear you, I hear you,
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Speaker 1: you know, And he was saying, just checking in on you,
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Speaker 1: big boy. Thought you you got it going. I appreciate it.
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Speaker 1: Don't get too big for your brushes. So that I've
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Speaker 1: had it that way, I've had it other times. We're
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Speaker 1: just look, I mean you haven't you have your first child, wife,
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Speaker 1: you're his first child. You want to talk about believe
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Speaker 1: the birth? Yeah, and sit there. I'm going to hear
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Speaker 1: in a whale cry or hearing your dog on kids
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Speaker 1: in the other room laughing together. You see God and
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Speaker 1: your woman, you see God and your wife like that? Right?
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Speaker 1: What the how did you do talk about miracles? How
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Speaker 1: did you do that? How did that? How do you
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Speaker 1: have that ability? And then you know there's all that people.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a better word for it.
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Speaker 1: There's enough coincidences that happened where you're like, you know what, man,
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Speaker 1: it was a mystery going forward, but now looking back,
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Speaker 1: there's a science that adds up that I did not
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Speaker 1: have anything to do with that choice that happened, and
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Speaker 1: I got the I got grace enough times where I'm like, Okay,
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Speaker 1: I got nothing to do with that, Matt. That wasn't
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Speaker 1: my choice. And some things lined up and in ways
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Speaker 1: that were more than just coincidence to me. And I've
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Speaker 1: had times where I've taken trips, you know when and
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Speaker 1: off of my own twenty five days of my own,
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Speaker 1: and around day fourteen had certain revelations where you know,
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Speaker 1: when that truth hits you at four am solitude, it
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Speaker 1: hits you soft as a butterfly, but with a lightning
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Speaker 1: bolt as well, and you reminded, been reminded of some things.
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Speaker 1: You know, remember that truth, even when you go back
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Speaker 1: into the masses in the busy world, do not let
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Speaker 1: go of that truth, you know. So, yeah, that's what
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Speaker 1: inspired truth Sleeve. Yeah, she'll come and visit, you know
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Speaker 1: what I mean, if you if you want more than
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Speaker 1: just to playing with her, she'll be She'll stay in
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Speaker 1: your bed all night every day. You know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: It's talking about truth, y'all? Not okay? Yes, yeah, yeah yeah.
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Speaker 1: And she'll be there with you forever and then hang
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Speaker 1: out with you your conscience and everything else, and she'll
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Speaker 1: be a great friend. But she's tough. She's tough to
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Speaker 1: live with because you call you on your shit. Yes, right,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
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Speaker 3: We got to be willing to look truth in the
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Speaker 3: eyes and deal with that. Like, you know, it's one
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Speaker 3: thing I was I was happy I said this yesterday.
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Speaker 3: It's like, you know, integrity to me is being honest
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Speaker 3: with your self. Yeah, honesty and truth is when you
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Speaker 3: with other people, but actually having integrity is when you
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Speaker 3: can be honest with yourself.
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Speaker 1: That's hard for some folks. Yeah, it's been hard for
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Speaker 1: me in my life sometimes. I mean, you know, I
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Speaker 1: talk about how how I pray in here. I go
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Speaker 1: through a rolodex in my mind and you know, people
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Speaker 1: I love and care about, and I until I find
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Speaker 1: a shot an image of them when they're most themselves,
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Speaker 1: you know, not the happiest or saddest or emotionally, just
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Speaker 1: when they're kind of graceful going in and they're like shining.
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Speaker 1: I go through that and the last person I get
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Speaker 1: to before I in my prayers, I got to go
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Speaker 1: through rolodex myself when I'm that way, and that can
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Speaker 1: take a mighty long time to find that image. And
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Speaker 1: I've had many times where I'm looking in the mirror
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Speaker 1: and I'm seeing another you know, and I got to
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Speaker 1: sit there and hold my gaze until i can call
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Speaker 1: myself on my on my bullshit, you know, and put
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Speaker 1: the put the facade down. And that can take a
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Speaker 1: while to find that for me. But then I'm also
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Speaker 1: happy to say I've had many days where I can
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Speaker 1: look myself in the I goo, yes.
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Speaker 4: Sir, speaking of that. How vulnerable? How vulnerable did you
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Speaker 4: have to be? And I don't write this book but
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Speaker 4: to share share it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, vulnerable is a funny word. I hadn't worked out
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Speaker 1: my relationship with definition of vulnerability. Yet. It doesn't feel
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Speaker 1: I've been told that though I hear what you're saying,
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Speaker 1: because we would say the same question, and I'm going,
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Speaker 1: I don't know, is it really I don't feel what's
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Speaker 1: so vulnerable about it? Because I believe it, So don't
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Speaker 1: feel like I'm I'm exposing anything myself. If anything. I've
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Speaker 1: had people go, Wow, that's that's ballsy of you to
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Speaker 1: talk go talk about belief and grace and forgiveness in
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Speaker 1: God and in the way you're doing it. I've heard that,
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Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't. I don't feel like I'm
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Speaker 1: being brave. I don't feel like I'm being like, oh
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Speaker 1: my gosh, I really exposed myself. I mean, I think
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Speaker 1: I'm talking a language that's that I know it's true
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Speaker 1: to me, and I'm hearing that it's true for others
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Speaker 1: as well. Now you'll know, man, Hollywood doesn't isn't the
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Speaker 1: first one to talk about belief in religion or in God,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But I've had wonderful times
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Speaker 1: with out there with with with people that are believers
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Speaker 1: that may not want to admit it publicly prayed with
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Speaker 1: a bunch of them. I've got a lot of agnostic
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Speaker 1: friends who do not believe, but we sit there and say,
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Speaker 1: say are graces and thank you? So, I mean, I
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Speaker 1: don't know someone's asked me that, or aren't you kind
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Speaker 1: of afraid to do this since you're Hollywood to go
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Speaker 1: talk about God? I mean in that kind of a tabot, No,
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Speaker 1: I mean it never was before for me, and I'm
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Speaker 1: sure as hecking now. So I'm on my own spiritual
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Speaker 1: journey trying to is that this book right, this book
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Speaker 1: is therapy for me. I'm in the middle of it,
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Speaker 1: going out last night and putting it on its feet
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Speaker 1: and showing sharing with people and engaging back and forth.
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm finding more connection with myself as well. I'm
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Speaker 1: sure you know, because I gotta strengthen my own belief
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Speaker 1: I want to.
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Speaker 6: Are you delivering people like your friends that you're talking
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Speaker 6: about that are in Hollywood, that you might not have
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Speaker 6: strong belief or whatever. Do you find yourself kind of
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Speaker 6: bringing them to what you believe?
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Speaker 1: No, No, I'm not. I'm never I'm not. That's not
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Speaker 1: where I'm putting my sweat equity into conversion. I want
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Speaker 1: to sit there and go. I do think there's a
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Speaker 1: lot of people that say, oh, I'm just spiritual, and
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Speaker 1: I think that's halfway that I'm like, actually, I'm listening
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Speaker 1: what you're talking about. You're very religious. Actually the religion
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Speaker 1: I love going back to the root definitions of words.
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Speaker 1: Religion comes from the Latin root legare, which means to
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Speaker 1: bind together and re means again, so that's unity. Now,
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Speaker 1: I hear a lot of people talk about the unity
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Speaker 1: is what I'm for. I'm not religious, but I'm for unity.
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Speaker 1: I'm spiritual. I'm like, well, that's actually that's definition of religion.
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Speaker 1: So what I think, what I try to talk to
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Speaker 1: people about and remind him, is that I don't think
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Speaker 1: religion is a problem. It's what man did with it
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Speaker 1: along the way, and where it excluded so many, and
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Speaker 1: where it became a business, and where the snake salesman
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Speaker 1: came out. And have you got reason to be skeptical
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Speaker 1: people preaching some stuff and what they're selling. But don't
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Speaker 1: throw religion out. Religion, I think it's all I think
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Speaker 1: life's religious. It's all religious I do. But don't throw religion.
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Speaker 1: Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Throw religion
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Speaker 1: out just because mankind bastardized it along the way.
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Speaker 3: Because I believe in being spiritual more than religious. I
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Speaker 3: feel like people can get caught up in religion and
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Speaker 3: they just do all the practices or even get caught
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Speaker 3: up and going to a place of worship every week,
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Speaker 3: but you're really not tapped into the spirit. You're just
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Speaker 3: doing things that you feel like you should do. Because
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Speaker 3: that's what the religion calls for.
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Speaker 1: But don't you think the ritual, the like mantras. You know,
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Speaker 1: monks they repeat the same thing six times a day
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Speaker 1: in these psalms, they get to they get ingrained. Don't
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Speaker 1: you think the ritual of that if it brings you
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Speaker 1: back the spirit?
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Speaker 3: Right, If you're just saying, like I'm going to church
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Speaker 3: on Sunday just because just to make yourself feel better,
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Speaker 3: it's like going to the gym and not really working out.
16:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly. Yeah, well, look, I mean sometimes it's
17:01
Speaker 1: it's the effort of just going I don't have the connection,
17:05
Speaker 1: but I'm trying. And I think it was a great
17:09
Speaker 1: Benedictine monk Thomas Merton that said, God, I believe that
17:13
Speaker 1: trying to please you pleased you, and that sometimes I
17:16
Speaker 1: gotta go to myself is a little amnesty to go, hey, man,
17:19
Speaker 1: you're trying me going through the doubts that I've got
17:23
Speaker 1: to look at that instead of going, oh what the
17:26
Speaker 1: hell McConaughey going no, it's part of the process. Man,
17:28
Speaker 1: keep trying. Man, you know we're gonna you know, you don't,
17:31
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not I'm not. Maybe I got
17:35
Speaker 1: to I do. Maybe I got a lot further to go.
17:39
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're gonna have full faith, seems if
17:43
Speaker 1: you're gonna have full faith, that you gotta have full surrender.
17:46
Speaker 1: I ain't doing that, not yet. I got some more
17:49
Speaker 1: humility to learn on that way, if that's where I
17:51
Speaker 1: can go, But I'm not there yet to fully surrender?
17:55
Speaker 1: Is Hollywood keeping you from doing that? Because you know
17:57
Speaker 1: when people sighed eye you, and you haven't feel.
17:59
Speaker 3: Any push back by having, like, you know, putting well
18:02
Speaker 3: first of all, putting out something so spiritually.
18:04
Speaker 1: Just I don't. I don't if it's there. Look, I
18:09
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe I've been out there thirty five years
18:10
Speaker 1: and I've got I understood. The community knows me. I
18:15
Speaker 1: know them if I do. They may be saying it
18:19
Speaker 1: behind the back, but they understand it to me, and
18:21
Speaker 1: they're usually much They're much more open, I think than
18:23
Speaker 1: they've been stereotyped to be. I don't there's not a
18:26
Speaker 1: pushback now. Like I said, a lot of people may
18:29
Speaker 1: not go out and say I'm a belite, but they
18:32
Speaker 1: might want to keep that to themselves. But they're not saying, dude,
18:36
Speaker 1: what are you doing? It's not like I'm going, well,
18:38
Speaker 1: we're not going to you know, let's not hire McConaughey
18:40
Speaker 1: because let's not hang out with him because because also
18:45
Speaker 1: but I mean, i think they're very, very clear, and
18:47
Speaker 1: I think I've been clear with who I am. I'm not.
18:51
Speaker 1: I'm not sitting there so excluding those people from the
18:54
Speaker 1: table if they do not believe I'm not, that's not
18:58
Speaker 1: that's not my way, you know. So I've never said
19:02
Speaker 1: to them, well, pray for this, but we can't have
19:06
Speaker 1: dinner together. It's not what I'm saying, have no means
19:11
Speaker 1: to say that, nor do I want to. I'm saying,
19:12
Speaker 1: come on to the table. And like I said, if
19:14
Speaker 1: you're not a believer in God, find so. If you
19:17
Speaker 1: believe in sign and go. If you're not a tyrant
19:20
Speaker 1: or nihilist, you're not trying to harm people. Whatever it
19:23
Speaker 1: is you believe in. Double down on more of that science, philosophy,
19:27
Speaker 1: whatever it is.
19:30
Speaker 6: What a like you talked about earlier, reflection and looking
19:35
Speaker 6: in the mirror and doing I guess doing that all
19:37
Speaker 6: writ in this book. What's been like the hardest time
19:39
Speaker 6: that you had to face yourself?
19:44
Speaker 1: Hardest time on I had to face myself, Well, before
19:48
Speaker 1: the first one that comes to mind probably be fifteen
19:53
Speaker 1: years ago. I was doing rom comms and I was
19:57
Speaker 1: a go to guy in rom comms and enjoyed them.
20:02
Speaker 1: But I'd in my real life, I'd met Camilla, fall
20:05
Speaker 1: in love with her. She was now pregnant with her
20:07
Speaker 1: first child. And if you got kids, you know, that's
20:11
Speaker 1: a real vital time life, you know. And as a man,
20:18
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any time a man is more
20:20
Speaker 1: maschland than with the birth of a first child, or
20:23
Speaker 1: the heart, head, body and lays are more aligned then
20:27
Speaker 1: than ever. So my life was very vital. My work
20:32
Speaker 1: felt like I could get up and go do that
20:34
Speaker 1: tomorrow morning. It's nothing wrong with that, but I was
20:36
Speaker 1: looking for my work to challenge boy, could that be
20:40
Speaker 1: is maybe as exciting as and as vital as my
20:42
Speaker 1: life is. And mind you, I did look in the
20:44
Speaker 1: mirror and say, be damn Glad McConaughey, that you feel
20:47
Speaker 1: like your life is more vital than your work, not
20:49
Speaker 1: the other way around. But can we get find some
20:52
Speaker 1: work that can be as vital as my life? So
20:54
Speaker 1: I wanted to do dramas. That's where the work I
20:56
Speaker 1: wanted to do. Hollywood says no, sir, stay in your lane,
20:59
Speaker 1: so I'll take pay cut. They said, I don't care,
21:01
Speaker 1: stay in your lane. So I said, all right, I
21:04
Speaker 1: can't do what I want to do. I'm gonna stop
21:06
Speaker 1: doing what I've been doing. So went to Texas with Camilla.
21:10
Speaker 1: She's pregnant, we said, stepping out, told my agent no
21:13
Speaker 1: more rom Comma Da Da Da da. I said, okay.
21:17
Speaker 1: And I remember Camilla and I saying that this. You
21:19
Speaker 1: don't know how long you're gonna go without work. This
21:21
Speaker 1: could be a drive spell for a while. You don't
21:23
Speaker 1: win the money yet. Man, I might have just wrote
21:26
Speaker 1: myself one way money right, all right, I hear you,
21:33
Speaker 1: and I'm going I hear you. Plus I got accomplished
21:36
Speaker 1: stuff for my own significance, and now what am I
21:37
Speaker 1: gonna do? I ain't gonna go down, and you know,
21:39
Speaker 1: start making chimes for a living, you know. So I'm
21:43
Speaker 1: I'm I'm out of them, out of rom comms. I'm
21:46
Speaker 1: I'm not on the beach anymore shirtless, which kind of
21:49
Speaker 1: looked like I was in a rom common in real
21:50
Speaker 1: life as well. Right, and uh, I got nothing coming
21:53
Speaker 1: in my agent's like, man, I hadn't heard your name
21:55
Speaker 1: in five months, et cetera, et cetera. Damn Yeah. So
21:58
Speaker 1: now we get into twelve months where year no work.
22:00
Speaker 1: I'm starting to think maybe I did write myself one
22:03
Speaker 1: way ticket out of Hollywood. Maybe I need to look
22:04
Speaker 1: for another vocation. Maybe I'm gonna go back to law school,
22:07
Speaker 1: become a lawyer. Maybe I've become a teacher. Eighteen months
22:10
Speaker 1: go by. Check this out, and I think you'll you'll
22:13
Speaker 1: know exause what I'm talking about when I say this,
22:15
Speaker 1: This uh rom com action coming to the script comes
22:19
Speaker 1: in eight million dollar offer. I read it. I said, no,
22:23
Speaker 1: thank you. They come back. Ten million dollar off. I said, no,
22:27
Speaker 1: thank you, they come back, twelve million dollar offer. I said,
22:30
Speaker 1: no thank you, they come back fourteen point five million
22:33
Speaker 1: dollar offer. I said, let me read that thing again.
22:39
Speaker 1: So I opened it up the same script as a
22:41
Speaker 1: million mal offer, but it was better. I can see
22:45
Speaker 1: myself making this work. Did you was turning it down?
22:49
Speaker 1: She knew everything, she knew, She thought, now, My brothers
22:52
Speaker 1: thought I was buck. Brothers were like, what is your
22:54
Speaker 1: major malfunctional? But I had made the decision, and come on,
22:58
Speaker 1: I made the decision. There wasn't It was no negogtial
22:59
Speaker 1: wasn't going back anyway. I read it again, it was better,
23:02
Speaker 1: but I ultimately he said no thing. And I think
23:05
Speaker 1: that sent a signal after eighteen months of being out
23:08
Speaker 1: of Hollywood. Oh old McConaughey bluffing, you know what I mean.
23:12
Speaker 1: I don't know what he's doing, but he's playing offense.
23:15
Speaker 1: He's he's turned down fourteen to five. That's not a
23:19
Speaker 1: receding move to do that. He's up to something. So
23:23
Speaker 1: you parlay that declining fourteen to five along with eighteen months,
23:26
Speaker 1: which turns to twenty months out of Hollywood, out of
23:30
Speaker 1: rom coms, not in the theater, not in your living room.
23:33
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, well, you know who'd be a novel,
23:36
Speaker 1: kind of interesting, new good idea for this drama? Killer
23:42
Speaker 1: Joe or Mud or Lincoln Lawyer now aspires club true
23:48
Speaker 1: de TEXTI McConaughey. Wow, But only because I unbranded, because
23:54
Speaker 1: I was gone. I had to go get anonymous, you
23:56
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Yeah?
23:57
Speaker 6: What type of prayers were you seeing during that time?
23:59
Speaker 6: Because that's all right, the money you know.
24:01
Speaker 1: I needed to I trust me that that The old
24:04
Speaker 1: bottle on the shelf started looking better earlier and earlier
24:07
Speaker 1: in the day too, you know, I was I lost
24:09
Speaker 1: my work. Man's got to work for significance and I
24:12
Speaker 1: didn't have it. You got depressed. No, I didn't get depressed.
24:16
Speaker 1: I didn't get depressed because thankfully I got a newborn
24:20
Speaker 1: and the only thing I ever wanted to be, no,
24:22
Speaker 1: I've ever wanted to be in life is is father.
24:24
Speaker 1: So anytime I focused on our son, Levi as a
24:30
Speaker 1: newborn and a new life brought in, that really kept
24:33
Speaker 1: my compass grounded. It was long days, you know, without
24:38
Speaker 1: cheapness of my own stuff, but I had that as
24:40
Speaker 1: an anchor.
24:41
Speaker 3: And that's that's such an incredible story because I you know,
24:42
Speaker 3: when I think about you going from rom com to
24:45
Speaker 3: an Oscar winning dramatic actor, I always wondered, what was
24:49
Speaker 3: the pivot or how did you know it was time
24:51
Speaker 3: to pivot? And just to know it was just an
24:53
Speaker 3: intentional decision to want to be taken serious. Was That's
24:55
Speaker 3: That's powerful.
24:56
Speaker 1: That was it. And I had to step out, and
24:59
Speaker 1: it was it was twenty months total that I was out.
25:02
Speaker 1: And trust me, like I said, I did think that
25:03
Speaker 1: I just I think I wrote myself a one way
25:05
Speaker 1: to take it out of Hollywood. What did that teach you
25:06
Speaker 1: about the power of intention.
25:10
Speaker 2: That.
25:13
Speaker 1: There's certain decisions like that decision to do that that
25:15
Speaker 1: came that hit me at four am. You know that
25:20
Speaker 1: the fact that I wasn't feeling alive in my work,
25:29
Speaker 1: the fact that it was paling in comparison to how
25:32
Speaker 1: wonderfully dramatic my life was, that was clear to me
25:36
Speaker 1: that that's what I needed to make a change, and
25:39
Speaker 1: I it was a non negotiable. So once again, once
25:43
Speaker 1: those truths hit, as we talked about earlier, and you go,
25:46
Speaker 1: I know that's true for me in my soul, but
25:49
Speaker 1: now I'm going to re engage with the masses, and
25:52
Speaker 1: slowly that onion can get peeled and you start to go, well,
25:54
Speaker 1: I can't maybe I could, You know I didn't. It's
25:57
Speaker 1: very clear. It was like, no, this is I'm not
26:00
Speaker 1: going back on the idea that if nothing would have
26:02
Speaker 1: come at twenty months, I was not going to go
26:04
Speaker 1: back and do what I'd done. I'd be doing something
26:06
Speaker 1: different if nothing had comes since then, I would be
26:08
Speaker 1: doing something different in my life right now. I was
26:10
Speaker 1: not going to go back. So the idea that of
26:14
Speaker 1: not flinching once you made a decision, and you can
26:16
Speaker 1: out endure a situation, and you can also seem to
26:19
Speaker 1: find after a while, like fifteen months of nothing from
26:26
Speaker 1: going out of my mind, all of a sudden kind
26:28
Speaker 1: of start to get a little honor in charge and
26:32
Speaker 1: filled up with like the endurance of it. It's almost like, Okay,
26:35
Speaker 1: the longer this goes, I got to hunt the reward
26:38
Speaker 1: on the other sides getting bigger with every day I'm
26:40
Speaker 1: going through this penance drought. I got a feeling that
26:43
Speaker 1: that there's a bigger reward over there. I'm in this
26:46
Speaker 1: for the long game. And you know, thankfully said it
26:50
Speaker 1: all came back around. I didn't have anything to do
26:52
Speaker 1: that besides being out of Hollywood, but the offers came
26:56
Speaker 1: in for the work I wanted to do. But making
26:58
Speaker 1: a decision, being clear on it and then saying as
27:01
Speaker 1: I I know this and projecting ahead. It's like COVID.
27:06
Speaker 1: I think, hey, we did my family did pretty good
27:09
Speaker 1: in COVID. And one of the things I think was
27:11
Speaker 1: when it came we sat down, I told the cause
27:14
Speaker 1: playing on this being this way for ten years, what
27:16
Speaker 1: damn so think it's going to be longer? And then
27:19
Speaker 1: when it is over in four years, You're like, oh shit,
27:21
Speaker 1: I was rolling. I could have handled more. Yeah. Right,
27:24
Speaker 1: So I was thinking it could be worse than it
27:28
Speaker 1: was going to be. I was thinking that I may
27:30
Speaker 1: be in a drought and not get any offers for
27:32
Speaker 1: five years, and hell, I'm gonna have to find something
27:34
Speaker 1: else do. Well, luckily it comes in two years in
27:37
Speaker 1: WHEREK came. You know that's a psalm forty six ten.
27:40
Speaker 1: Be still and know that I am God. You just
27:42
Speaker 1: got to be still and hold it and hold it.
27:45
Speaker 1: Sometimes you change by staying the same, and the world
27:48
Speaker 1: does this and it comes right back to the baseline
27:50
Speaker 1: that you're on going. Oh you're brand new, and you're like, no,
27:53
Speaker 1: I've been right here. I just held you know what
27:56
Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah.
27:58
Speaker 4: So when you transitioned into drama, Matthew McConaughey, have any
28:05
Speaker 4: did any of your roles alter your perception of reality?
28:08
Speaker 1: Did any of my roles alter my perception of reality? Well,
28:16
Speaker 1: I will say this, I kind of flipped the script.
28:19
Speaker 1: Remember earlier I was saying my life was so vital
28:21
Speaker 1: and my work was paling. The work got so vital
28:25
Speaker 1: that all of a sudden, I was like I had
28:27
Speaker 1: a little moment you know, I was like, Oh, my
28:30
Speaker 1: life's not as vital as my work. Ooh fiction. Playing
28:37
Speaker 1: these other characters that are written, I'm kind of getting
28:40
Speaker 1: off to them more than I'm getting off being me
28:44
Speaker 1: in the documentary That is My Life. That scared me
28:47
Speaker 1: a little bit too, which is why I started writing.
28:50
Speaker 1: And then while I wrote Greenlight to when I'm writing
28:51
Speaker 1: Points Press, I tried been challenging myself for the last
28:54
Speaker 1: six years, going all right, you know, you go out,
28:58
Speaker 1: You're doing someone else's script, written by somebody else, directed
29:01
Speaker 1: by someone else, lends in a camera by someone else,
29:03
Speaker 1: and edited by someone else. That's for filters from your
29:07
Speaker 1: raw expression. So I was like, let's get rid of
29:10
Speaker 1: some filters here. And who are you in life McConaughey,
29:14
Speaker 1: in this documentary where action has been called the day
29:17
Speaker 1: you were born and cuts gona be called the day
29:19
Speaker 1: you leave this life? What are you doing live in
29:21
Speaker 1: this live show where hands of time or recording it?
29:24
Speaker 1: And That's what I've been the last six years, kind
29:26
Speaker 1: of challenging myself. So I go to a book. Now
29:28
Speaker 1: if there is one filter with the book, because it's
29:30
Speaker 1: a written word the performance, right, there's no filter. That's
29:34
Speaker 1: direct to the audience. So it was one filter. But
29:37
Speaker 1: I wanted to see if the written word and I
29:39
Speaker 1: could tell some personal stories that could be entertaining that
29:42
Speaker 1: people could see themselves in and go and then go
29:45
Speaker 1: look in there and go, you did that good job, McConaughey,
29:50
Speaker 1: or you know, here's where you could have made it
29:52
Speaker 1: even more true or better. And I wanted to need that.
29:55
Speaker 1: And so that's sort of a phase I'm in now
29:58
Speaker 1: where I'm still doing work. What made lost bus made
30:00
Speaker 1: another one called the Ribbers of M'SI and I tell
30:02
Speaker 1: you I went back to you know, it spent six
30:03
Speaker 1: years since it acting in a role. I one forgot
30:06
Speaker 1: how much I enjoyed it, and two forgot how much
30:10
Speaker 1: it feels like a vacation because it's a singular focus.
30:14
Speaker 1: And I've been compartmentalizing more of the last six years,
30:17
Speaker 1: taking on more different things, checking out leadership roles, writing books, family,
30:21
Speaker 1: et cetera. But the singular focus of going to act
30:24
Speaker 1: and going I'm obsessed and all I revered this craft
30:28
Speaker 1: enough to be obsessed with my man, this character. In
30:32
Speaker 1: every idle moment I've got, I've got work I can
30:35
Speaker 1: do to tell more of the truth on this character,
30:38
Speaker 1: and I give myself three months to do that. That
30:40
Speaker 1: sort of blinders. Yeah, And I think for my wife
30:44
Speaker 1: that when I go out the door every morning, she
30:45
Speaker 1: got the kids and says, don't look over your shoulder,
30:47
Speaker 1: go conquer. I got this shit handled, big, big help.
30:51
Speaker 1: But I'm able to just singular focused when I go
30:53
Speaker 1: act and I missed. It felt like a vacation. Why
30:55
Speaker 1: didn't the Yellowstone spend off happen? So we talked about it,
30:59
Speaker 1: Taylor and I. It just never it never came to
31:02
Speaker 1: I never saw a script I wanted to see, you
31:04
Speaker 1: know what. The the idea was good, it just never
31:07
Speaker 1: got the script form. So Taylor and I continue to
31:10
Speaker 1: talk about what might be the best way to work together.
31:12
Speaker 1: So you were you were attached to it like it
31:14
Speaker 1: was actually happen. Well, I mean I was. It came out.
31:18
Speaker 1: I'm always curious about this because it came out my attachment,
31:22
Speaker 1: which I wouldn't never signed anything. There wasn't any real attachment.
31:25
Speaker 1: It just Taylor and I creedively talking about it could
31:27
Speaker 1: be a good idea, right. But it was interesting because
31:29
Speaker 1: it came out in the news in the trades about
31:33
Speaker 1: the same time Coster's leaving, so I don't know if
31:36
Speaker 1: it was publicly put out there to sort of counterbalance.
31:40
Speaker 1: We got the exit of our guy Gostler, who we've
31:43
Speaker 1: all known, so let's make sure it looks like we've
31:46
Speaker 1: got somebody else coming in that we can be excited about.
31:50
Speaker 1: So there was never a contract or anything. It was
31:52
Speaker 1: just he and I. He and I talking about it,
31:55
Speaker 1: and what about this Barbie sequel? You really gonna be
31:57
Speaker 1: in the Barbie? Said O, Man, I don't know. Someone
31:58
Speaker 1: came up with that. No, someone just I think American Frere,
32:03
Speaker 1: just like who's in Lost Bus with me? I think
32:06
Speaker 1: she mentioned it on some talk show going you could
32:08
Speaker 1: be the King of Kens and he kins, I can
32:11
Speaker 1: put a font to that. Hey, let's put a picture
32:13
Speaker 1: up all of a sudden, I some of the show,
32:14
Speaker 1: he said yesterday, I'm on some show and I'm there
32:15
Speaker 1: in a white suit at Kings. That's just as real
32:18
Speaker 1: as that is. Would you do it? I don't know.
32:21
Speaker 1: It sounds like it could be fun.
32:22
Speaker 5: You know, it'd be good for the kids.
32:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah.
32:26
Speaker 6: And then with the Lost Bus, I saw that you
32:28
Speaker 6: when your son because he's in a movie with you. Yeah,
32:30
Speaker 6: Leb yeah, Levi, you asked for his last name to
32:32
Speaker 6: be taken off when you submitted his casting video.
32:35
Speaker 5: Yeah, what was the dad decision to do that?
32:37
Speaker 6: Like?
32:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I pitched every you know story of the
32:42
Speaker 1: script that a movie I'm going to do the family
32:45
Speaker 1: and this one has a son, and my son comes
32:47
Speaker 1: to me and goes, hey, your son cash? Yeah, I
32:50
Speaker 1: said no. He goes, how old is it kidding the
32:52
Speaker 1: script about your age? Say, it's kind of can I
32:54
Speaker 1: read for it? And I'm like, huh, kind of ignored him.
32:57
Speaker 1: I wanted to. I want to see some hustles. He
32:59
Speaker 1: He's not just coming at me like this is a
33:00
Speaker 1: whim right. Well, he kept badgering me and kept badgering me,
33:03
Speaker 1: and finally go okay, all right, so first of all,
33:05
Speaker 1: let's sit down. Let me talk you about this acting gig.
33:07
Speaker 1: This ain't you don't show up with attitude. There ain't
33:10
Speaker 1: no modeling gig. This is a rodeo man. You gotta
33:13
Speaker 1: go with soul and nobleshit in your bones. All right,
33:17
Speaker 1: So just set the table of this is a serious craft.
33:19
Speaker 1: And then we talked him for a couple of days
33:22
Speaker 1: and then he said I've got to see and I'd
33:24
Speaker 1: love to shoot. I pulled up my phone shot him
33:25
Speaker 1: and I was like, Okay, he holds a camera, all right,
33:28
Speaker 1: he can behave honestly in front of the camera. He
33:30
Speaker 1: can even improvise. Did well? I send that to the
33:32
Speaker 1: cash and director? I said, I think this might be
33:34
Speaker 1: good enough for a callback. She writes back, I think
33:36
Speaker 1: it might be good enough to send to the director. Okay, great.
33:41
Speaker 1: Can you do me a favor and pull his last name?
33:44
Speaker 1: Because you know, forgetting nepotism? Just what if he got
33:49
Speaker 1: the job with my last name? You're at a bar,
33:53
Speaker 1: right or he's got it thinking in his mind? Did
33:58
Speaker 1: part of the reason I got that? Because come on,
34:02
Speaker 1: that ain't a good friend. That's why we didn't name
34:03
Speaker 1: it Matthew, so it would be Matthew Jr. You know
34:05
Speaker 1: what I mean? Although Levi is another name for Matthew.
34:08
Speaker 1: We got away with that, Yeah, saying Matthew jeans post alone.
34:17
Speaker 1: Get on that way? You got your prayers in print, right? Yeah?
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Speaker 3: How often do your prayers going going answers? And do
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Speaker 3: you still trust God in those seasons that they do?
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Speaker 1: Where is there any such thing as an unanswered prayer?
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Speaker 1: Meaning if you don't get what you're praying for, and
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Speaker 1: now that it's still an answer. Sometimes you know, Mighty
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Speaker 1: gave you what you need, not what you wanted. What
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Speaker 1: you need what you want right, that's and and and
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Speaker 1: and you know, it's funny sometimes when I hear people
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Speaker 1: praying for it because you've got blue collar prayers and
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Speaker 1: you've got white collar prayers. You hear someone praying death.
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Speaker 1: You know, win that oscar, get that yacht. You're going, Man,
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Speaker 1: I hang on, but I ain't. Guys got better stuff
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Speaker 1: to do. Man, you talk about as white collar prayers
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Speaker 1: that ain't ain't working. We got to talk about what
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Speaker 1: do you need now? What you want now? I do
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Speaker 1: think my definition of heaven on earth is where what
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Speaker 1: you want is what you need, and what you need
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Speaker 1: is what you want, Where what you actually need is
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Speaker 1: what you desire, or what you desire, what you're salacious for,
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Speaker 1: what you lust for is actually what you need is
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Speaker 1: actually worth loving, hard place to get to. But boy,
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Speaker 1: when that's when in the pocket, I think that's when
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Speaker 1: we're in the honey hole right there. You know, some
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Speaker 1: people say, what could you still be praying for?
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Speaker 3: Because you have the Oscar, you have the fame, you
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Speaker 3: have the money you had those.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I never prayed for any of those either. Okay,
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Speaker 1: no way, I'd feel like I'd feel like a fraud
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Speaker 1: praying for that again, I think that would be a
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Speaker 1: white collared prayer. Where God's going on. I got, I got,
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Speaker 1: I got real stuff to try and handle, you know
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Speaker 1: what I mean. I pray for the health of my family.
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Speaker 1: I pray for myself to be the type of father
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Speaker 1: that can maintain a healthy family unit. I pray for
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Speaker 1: UH to have the patience to sometimes be a what
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Speaker 1: I would call better husband. I pray for the discernment
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Speaker 1: to listen and try to make the choices that can
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Speaker 1: feed me and my family and life going forward, to
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Speaker 1: make decisions that will pay me back for the long term,
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Speaker 1: for the long haul, and for the decisions that can
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Speaker 1: those decisions that can pay me back also, where are
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Speaker 1: those also the ones that can pay the most people back.
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Speaker 1: That's the kind of things I pray for, you know.
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Speaker 1: And then I mom's ninety three, man, you know, he's awesome,
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Speaker 1: and she's rolling and from the neck up, she's younger
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Speaker 1: than that. We'll see how long the body holds up.
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Speaker 1: But I pray for and I, you know, I don't
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Speaker 1: even know. She feels like I need to pray for her.
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Speaker 1: She's she's she's great. She's good. Man. When she's ready
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Speaker 1: to go, she goes tomorrow. She's good. You know what
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Speaker 1: I mean. She's nothing sentlemental about it her. She can
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Speaker 1: talk about death like right here in front of you,
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Speaker 1: like you're talking about drink of water.
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Speaker 5: Older people, Margaret, mother's the same way they get.
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Speaker 1: They live like they it's like your revolutionary when you're young, right,
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Speaker 1: and then you get your thirties and forties and you
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Speaker 1: start to go, oh, some of that stuff Mom and
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Speaker 1: dad taught me was right. So I'm gonna get a
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Speaker 1: little more responsible. And then you get about sixty and
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Speaker 1: what they slip back. They don't give a shit about it.
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Speaker 1: I mean hurting anybody. Oh, they'll get over it. And
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Speaker 1: you're like, like, my mom, the stuff she'll lie about,
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Speaker 1: I would do her. She's still lying in ninety three.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. She's like, she's like, oh yeah, you lie,
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Speaker 1: I swear to it. So she starts telling me she
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Speaker 1: she's done some crazy stuff. Man. She had this, uh
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Speaker 1: she had this boyfriend that my dad died and uh
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Speaker 1: uh he was living at the house and stuff, And
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Speaker 1: they've been dating for about a year and a half
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Speaker 1: and they lived out this country club out in southwest Houston,
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Speaker 1: and my brother Pats playing golf one day and these
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Speaker 1: four older gentlemen on the other fairway call them over
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Speaker 1: and go, hey, pack, congratulations. Man pass about what and
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Speaker 1: he goes about your mom c J. The marriage. He's
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Speaker 1: like what Mary, Oh yeah, yeah, we all heard about it.
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Speaker 1: So he goes home, Mom, what'd you do? We're talking about? No,
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Speaker 1: I just so you got oh that? What what'd you do? Mom? Well,
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Speaker 1: the monthly bills the club are four hundred if your
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Speaker 1: only partners, but there are two fifty if you're married.
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Speaker 1: Come on, dragged her down to the country club, made
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Speaker 1: her get on the mic and tell everyone I was
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Speaker 1: bullshit and I was lying out of so she do
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Speaker 1: stuff like that, right, And I'm like, yeah, you know
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Speaker 1: not to lie, blah blah blah blah. And I go,
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Speaker 1: do you have anything, Mom? No one forgives themselves quicker
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Speaker 1: than you do. You have anything at the night. But
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Speaker 1: when you roll the deck through your mind about things,
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Speaker 1: you may regret things you want to change it her.
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Speaker 1: She goes, oh, honey, I do every night. I got
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Speaker 1: a list. It's probably twenty five things on I got regrets,
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Speaker 1: things I change, oh, things that I just I'm sorry for,
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Speaker 1: she said. But you know the thing is, when I
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Speaker 1: wake up in the morning, I forgot them all. That's
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Speaker 1: her and she's not a shallow woman at all. But
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Speaker 1: boy does she move on from And she doesn't generally
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Speaker 1: judge people. That's another thing about her. She has zero stress,
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Speaker 1: zero stress. Yeah, anyway, that's my mom.
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Speaker 3: I didn't realize they told us the wrapt five minutes ago.
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Speaker 3: So my last question, if you could go back and
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Speaker 3: talk to the version of yourself that first said all right,
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Speaker 3: all right, all right, yeah, what would you.
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Speaker 1: Tell that person? Days Confused nineteen ninety first scene I
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Speaker 1: was ever in a movie and tell you where it's from.
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Speaker 1: I'm wasn't even supposed to work that night. I'd never
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Speaker 1: acted before, I'd never been on screen. All right, So
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm in this car getting a
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Speaker 1: lava leer Mike put up. I mean the scene is
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to pick up this red headed intellectual
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Speaker 1: who's played by Marissa Robisi, and she's got nerds in
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Speaker 1: the car, and I'm Woodson, who's hanging out at school
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Speaker 1: and then I'm older, but I still like the high
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Speaker 1: school girl, So pull and pick her up. Nothing's written.
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Speaker 1: Gonna improvise this. Well. As I'm getting the mic put
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Speaker 1: on me, I'm starting to get a little nervous.
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Speaker 3: Make sure you're acting with that line, because they'll take
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Speaker 3: that out of context and put that on the internet.
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Speaker 1: That's Watterson and everything. Everything I'm about to say, gotta
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Speaker 1: remember us talking talking the first person from our characters.
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Speaker 1: There's plenty, plenty of times, plenty of times through the day.
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Speaker 1: You could record what I'm saying and put me in jail.
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Speaker 1: I'm going on, I'm peeking through the pills someone else. Right.
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Speaker 1: So Woodson was a guy who was hanging out the
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Speaker 1: high school. He was out, and that's he has the line.
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Speaker 1: There's a great line written run there like, man, you
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Speaker 1: gotta you gotta quit. You know you gotta cut that
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Speaker 1: out work, And he says, no, that's what I love
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Speaker 1: about those high school girls. Man, I get older, they
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Speaker 1: stayed the same.
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Speaker 2: Aig that was you have to have to double down.
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Speaker 2: We got it, we got a right. I raved that
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Speaker 2: line because people know that a right anyway.
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Speaker 1: So I'm sitting there nervous about this first scene, starting
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Speaker 1: to get you know, a little anxious, and I'm like,
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Speaker 1: who's my man? Who's Wooterson? Going through my head? Who's
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Speaker 1: my guy? I got a Wooterson man loves loves it,
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Speaker 1: love my car, I said, Boom, I remember seveny chavelle.
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Speaker 1: There's one, I said Woterson. Watterson loves rock and roll,
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Speaker 1: I said, boom. I got ted NuGet stranglehold in the
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Speaker 1: eight track. There's too, I said. Waterson loves to get high.
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Speaker 1: I said, Oh, Slater's riding shot gun. He's always got
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Speaker 1: to do. We rolled up all of a sudden, I
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Speaker 1: hear action. Now as I hear action, I look up,
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Speaker 1: put it in drive, and as I pull out to
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Speaker 1: go do the fourth thing that Watterson lens he likes ladies. Yes,
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Speaker 1: I say the three things, and affirmation for the three
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Speaker 1: things that I do have. All right, all right, all right.
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Speaker 1: Those were three affirmations. And that actually was based off
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Speaker 1: of a live doors concert and Jim Morrison barks at
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Speaker 1: the crowd all right, all right, all right, all right,
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Speaker 1: And I had listened to it, heard that four months earlier,
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Speaker 1: and for whatever reason, my version of it three times
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Speaker 1: came out that night. So what would you tell that
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Speaker 1: version of yourself. Hey, you may think this is gonna
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Speaker 1: be a hobby where you gotta have a fun weekend
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Speaker 1: acting in Austin, Texas one summer in your life. Well
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Speaker 1: guess what, buddy, this is gonna be more than a hobby.
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a career and you're gonna end up
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Speaker 1: loving it. Wow. Matthew McConaughey, I'm sorry, real quick.
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Speaker 4: Did you improve your role in Oh my God, The
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Speaker 4: Leonardo the Wall Street?
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Speaker 1: Did you?
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Speaker 4: It was that improv all of that?
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Speaker 1: Well, not all of it, no, but but but quite
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Speaker 1: a bit was I mean, you know people ask about
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Speaker 1: the chest beating, All right, that's something I'll do before
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Speaker 1: scenes and I've done many times before. It's a relaxation technique,
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Speaker 1: you know, get to get out of head. It's getting
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Speaker 1: the rhythm. Yeah, let's get the blood flowing. And it's
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Speaker 1: good because the whole crew is going. Was he doing what?
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Speaker 1: It's the weird and it's nice to put himself in
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Speaker 1: an underdog position so I can out of it, right.
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Speaker 1: And then I was doing that before the scene. Yell action,
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Speaker 1: I'd stop. We do the scene. We do the scene
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Speaker 1: five times we got it moving on. Great, nailed it
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Speaker 1: moving on. All of a sudden, Leonardo raises his hand
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Speaker 1: and says, hey, Marty, hang on a second. He goes,
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Speaker 1: what's that thing you're doing before I told him? When
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Speaker 1: I just told you? And he goes, what if you
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Speaker 1: did that in the scene? Next take is what you
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Speaker 1: see on on film?
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Speaker 4: I love it, I love it.
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Speaker 1: Wow, it's Matthew McConaughey poems and prays. Good.
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Speaker 3: Great conversation with you, brother, Poems and prais is out
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Speaker 3: right now, man, Thank you for coming, brother.
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Speaker 1: I appreciate you, sir.
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Speaker 5: Having and the Lost Bus is in theaters Friday.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes, it's the Breakfast Club every day a week ago.
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Speaker 1: Click your ass up, the Breakfast Club. You don't finish,
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Speaker 1: So y'all have done it.