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Michael Amadi über Musik, London und Leidenschaft · Gin And Talk

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  Speaker 0: People say when you do what your love, You never really work.
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  Speaker 0: And I gotta be honest here...I kinda disagree a little bit because to me it's always been the opposite- I LOVE WHAT I DO!
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  Speaker 0: and therefore i worked even harder on it.
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  Speaker 0: The American Bar at the Savoy Hotel in London feels like home A LITTLE BIT, y'know?
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  Speaker 0: So earlier I said that day one in london would look for places where they'd value What I Do.
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  Speaker 0: And The Marykombar is one of the first places where I went knocking and literally just like that, i said hi.
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  Speaker 0: I would love to get a chance here.
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  Speaker 0: how do you do it?
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  Speaker 0: I was lucky enough find the right agent or people who helped me getting in there with my own show with my thing.
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  Speaker 1: My guest today is Michael Amadi.
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  Speaker 1: The musician, composer and founder of One Orchestra co-operates in his work classical arrangements Pop & Soul on a unique way.
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  Speaker 1: He grew up in Florence with Nigerian roots and moved to London where he found his artistic home.
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  Speaker 1: In addition to international performances the American Bar at Savoy Hotel is an anchor in its creative life A place that he has been performing regularly for many years.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to learn from him about his versatile work between solo projects, orchestra arrangements and writing for other artists.
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  Speaker 1: that inspires them.
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  Speaker 1: And how he manages to stay loyal in the music industry!
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  Speaker 1: But now have fun listening to
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  Speaker 0: it.
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  Speaker 0: It's nice that all of you are back with me and a lot of time for our personal
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  Speaker 1: bar talk.
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  Speaker 0: Welcome to our bar trunks!
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to
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  Speaker 0: a new episode, Gin & Talk.
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  Speaker 0: Make yourself comfortable, lean back and dive into the luxurious, dark atmosphere
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  Speaker 1: of our studio bar.
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  Speaker 1: Michael, it's so nice to see you again right before Christmas.
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  Speaker 1: We are going to publish the episode after Christmas but yeah Right Before The end of the year.
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  Speaker 1: welcome to Jen and talk.
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  Speaker 0: perfect.
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  Speaker 0: Thank You So much for having me.
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  Speaker 0: this is lovely.
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  Speaker 1: so we met like Yeah not a year ago It's more Like Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe ten months ago, something like that or nine years ago in London while you've been playing at the American bar at the Savoy which is actually one of my most favorite locations in town because the drinks are good and Of course.
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  Speaker 1: The music it's good as well.
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  Speaker 0: And then
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  Speaker 1: we kind of yeah got to know each other and over time We met a couple of times in London also in Munich.
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  Speaker 1: So that's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: And of course, I learned a lot about your music and what you're doing besides your gigs at the Savoy.
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  Speaker 1: so then i got curious and then it was like okay we've gotta talk.
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  Speaker 1: now We are here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah!
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  Speaker 1: You have been born in Florence so you are Italian with Nigerian heritage To London to do your music there and now you're basically traveling the world all the time.
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  Speaker 0: So pretty much, yeah
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  Speaker 1: let's start from... From the beginning.
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  Speaker 1: how did you get in touch with music?
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  Speaker 1: In first place so not like just listening to music but also too Get a feeling that you want to do more in More with music doing your own music playing music.
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  Speaker 0: Well, I think music has always been part of my life.
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  Speaker 0: I've started very young.
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  Speaker 0: when i was five six... ...I think I was naturally drawn to it!
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  Speaker 0: I started with guitar and moved on the piano.. ..I have always been sort-of creating a felt in need to express things in a musical way.
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  Speaker 0: so rising music composing and performing as well.... was what kind of made me realize that music for me, it's kinda a thing.
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  Speaker 0: I was about like seven or eight years old and I was playing...I was barely playing guitar but i would literally go to church three times per week because I wanted to play all the instruments including the organ, piano etc.
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  Speaker 0: so yeah!
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  Speaker 0: It was when I was nine or ten, that the priest of The Church was probably fed up with me like knocking on a door at seven AM rehearsing for the eight AM Mass.
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  Speaker 0: So he decided to give one small keyboard to bring home... ...to practice.
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  Speaker 0: and I think after that there's never silence in my house again.
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  Speaker 0: it always.
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  Speaker 0: music can be playing and practicing and discovering things.
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  Speaker 0: so That is the, I think that's the very beginning of how approach music.
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  Speaker 1: So if i listen to your music now all those stuff you're doing it's like a wild mix off pop soul classical instruments.
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  Speaker 1: so there's there's like whole range of music here You are working on right?
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  Speaker 1: Now How did that come, like why are there so many different influences to what you're doing today or different styles?
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  Speaker 0: Well I mean it has been... It is a very long journey i think and do get kind of you know to explore all the different things.
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  Speaker 0: All the different angles.
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  Speaker 0: And as I said I started with guitar ,I moved to piano .And did my classical studies in Florence.
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  Speaker 0: when I moved to London, I switched songwriting so that was a little bit more bro-than in way.
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  Speaker 0: I was writing, composing lyrics any sort of genre.
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  Speaker 0: So you know...I've always been curious and thats being the first thing.
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  Speaker 0: And then i would kinda get all those inspirations and just kinda melt them together and try my own things.
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  Speaker 0: you know, even if I wouldn't necessarily be able to play an instrument in the traditional way.
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  Speaker 0: In most traditional ways i would still kind of use that too... To explore different sounds and genres And basically see how you can integrate different things into what you do.
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  Speaker 0: So yeah today we are doing a mix of things from classical to a lot of orchestral today, but also pop a bit of soul.
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  Speaker 0: And yeah I get to write for a lot of projects or different artists.
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  Speaker 0: so you know that's the beauty of the whole thing.
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  Speaker 0: every day it kind of is kind of differing and challenging in a different way.
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  Speaker 0: So
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  Speaker 1: when did he realize?
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  Speaker 1: That are not only good at playing music But Also Are able To Compose Music Because Playing Music Is One Thing.
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  Speaker 1: but writing music and composing music as a whole other league of working with music?
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  Speaker 0: It is.
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  Speaker 0: I think it came very natural to me, i was composing Music...I was writing songs even before.. ...i knew that could be if top or something like i was.
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  Speaker 0: just you know That Was My Natural Way Of Expressing Things Whether It Was Like Writing A Funny Song Called Something Funny happened at school, or finally enough memorizing poetry and stuff when you're in school.
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  Speaker 0: Like music has always been my way of kind-of dealing with things.
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  Speaker 0: naturally so it's just something that you start when your young.
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  Speaker 0: then like you perform ,you study .
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  Speaker 0: You get to listen a lot Approach the instruments and for me was never really like.
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  Speaker 0: Right, we're opening a book.
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  Speaker 0: And we've reading music.
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  Speaker 0: beside reading the music can which is play?
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  Speaker 0: The way it is I will.
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  Speaker 0: It was more like You know this is like at a nice tool advice that i can use to Express what i want to say.
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  Speaker 0: so Yeah if these answer your question but yeah its always been very natural.
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  Speaker 0: it's always being A natural response too coping with things and yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So at some point in time you decided to leave one of the most beautiful, beautiful cities on the world Florence?
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  Speaker 1: To move into another very beautiful city London.
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  Speaker 1: so why did you decide on doing that?
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  Speaker 0: I mean Florence is amazing.
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  Speaker 0: Florence it's an incredible place And i think i was lucky enough to be born and raised there at the centre of it all and I think London obviously has a lot to offer.
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  Speaker 0: And, you know...and i thought that was like the right moment or time to leave home and try something new.
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  Speaker 0: in huge place like London where things are happening by seconds every single day.
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  Speaker 0: It's never ending!
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  Speaker 0: Never stops.
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  Speaker 0: So so yeah, although I'm really i'm really lucky because today.
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  Speaker 0: I get to work in Florence and Tuscany all around easily To be honest quite a lot.
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  Speaker 0: So I honestly feel like I'm living in between Anyway And I'm getting there.
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  Speaker 0: you know the best of both.
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  Speaker 0: But yeah London is definitely the place for music.
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  Speaker 0: that I mean at least from what?
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  Speaker 0: compared to the Italian music scene.
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  Speaker 0: So yeah, I thought London would be the right platform and place for me.
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  Speaker 1: Was there like a certain point in time where you realized that music is not only your passion but also way of making living?
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  Speaker 1: The music industry is a hard business and it's not very easy to actually live from.
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  Speaker 1: And you really have to put in lot of passion, work into make-it-work.
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  Speaker 0: I think deep down i've always knew that being playing some learning songs on the piano Gosh, I could do this like I could you know if people would be interested in listening.
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  Speaker 0: I Would I could just you know Do these for a living?
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  Speaker 0: I remember thinking something like that when it was probably like twelve or thirteen.
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  Speaker 0: So he's always been there.
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  Speaker 0: I think gradually People start showing an interest in the and what I was doing.
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  Speaker 0: again I wasn't i wasn't fully aware.
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  Speaker 0: For me That was just cool.
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  Speaker 0: You know something that you'd do after school Something that you know.
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  Speaker 0: I finally had my keyboard and then my piano in my home.
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  Speaker 0: So, you know that's it.
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  Speaker 0: so It's always been there.
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  Speaker 0: when i moved to london i carried all of That with me.
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  Speaker 0: i'm like i still i You know?
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  Speaker 0: i love performing.
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  Speaker 0: i love sharing music With people.
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  Speaker 0: i love you know getting To play all my favorite songs as well As my original music.
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  Speaker 0: so At that stage the plan was just to find an outlet that would allow Me to be myself, to do that for a living.
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  Speaker 0: So the process was very natural.
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  Speaker 0: it was more like this is who I am and what i'm doing?
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  Speaker 0: where are those places which would value my work?
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  Speaker 0: so yeah all of the hotels or restaurants have been working on cruise ships.
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  Speaker 0: every performance opportunity will come away Just for fun, maybe just to show off a little bit when you're younger.
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  Speaker 0: But ultimately... You know?
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  Speaker 0: To kind of be myself and challenge yourself!
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  Speaker 0: And yeah again London has lots to offer.
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  Speaker 0: so it's the best place they want.
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  Speaker 0: in London.
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  Speaker 0: I was like right i need to find all the piano bars All the piano places where can perform Where do the artist
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  Speaker 0: go?!
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  Speaker 0: And I start hanging out in the circles and starting making friendships.
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  Speaker 1: Nice!
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  Speaker 1: So if we look at what you're doing today, then... ...I discovered it in my research.
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  Speaker 1: maybe you want to add something to that?
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  Speaker 1: You are working as a solo artist.. ..and also do your own solo music which can be found on Spotify everywhere else where you listen to music.
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  Speaker 1: Then you are doing a solo gigs at locations like the American bar, at Savoy.
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  Speaker 1: Then you are doing one orchestra group and we've got to talk about that a little bit more soon... And then sometimes mixing it all together and doing performances that are mixing your solo original music and one orchestra or you're doing original music for one orchestra group and then as if that wouldn't be enough, you're also writing music for other artists.
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  Speaker 0: Yes!
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  Speaker 1: So how is this all going together?
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  Speaker 1: How do you also prioritize your work schedule more or less?
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  Speaker 0: Well it's a lot.
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  Speaker 0: when you list it like that... People say You never really work.
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  Speaker 0: And I gotta be honest here, i kind of disagree a little bit because to me it's always been the opposite-I love what I do and therefore... ...i worked even harder on it!
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  Speaker 0: You know, I was down.
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  Speaker 0: I was game... Again it all comes really naturally!
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  Speaker 0: I'm writing music for myself and i realized that.. ..I've always been drawn to the orchestral sound Writing for strings, arranging for full orchestras Something that I didn't necessarily learn.
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  Speaker 0: how do when a kid?
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  Speaker 0: but again curiosity got me there anyway experimenting first, studying later at university.
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  Speaker 0: Obviously the classical approach helps with all of it.
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  Speaker 0: so its something that I've always been doing.
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  Speaker 0: So...I write for myself and i think i can thrive for other people especially if they like what their hear when i write for my self.
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  Speaker 0: And again It's just another way for me to be creative, like I've always felt that i have so much to share and save musically.
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  Speaker 0: That you know there is SO MUCH THAT I WANT TO DO!
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  Speaker 0: And initially everything doesn't really make sense because it has a lot of different things.
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  Speaker 0: So growing up people were like ok im writing this now im writing for these Now Im doing a video game, now im doing t-other.
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  Speaker 0: Nothing made any sense at all For awhile...it was just having fun and enjoying the process creating and seeing all the results getting better, so if anything it's addictive.
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  Speaker 0: It is just something that I can't wait to see in a studio.
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  Speaker 0: what will happen next?
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  Speaker 0: because you never know how beautiful this would be!
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  Speaker 0: What if I find a place in London that would allow me to sit at the piano and just play whatever i feel like, I don't have to read.
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  Speaker 0: I didn't have two you know.
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  Speaker 0: prepare it like huge set list or like an entire show for the first time.
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  Speaker 0: can she sit down on the piano?
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  Speaker 0: And just play what I liked when they fail without fear of being judged The way that you might be judging classical world where you have to perform as certain standards every single time You know, so all of these again is like kind of forming a picture A painting where I'm doing multiple things and i still don't know Where it's gonna lead but I know that.
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  Speaker 0: I mean join It So i'm going to keep doing it.
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  Speaker 0: the one orchestra Kind of glued everything together.
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  Speaker 0: The one orchestra Is my project?
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  Speaker 0: Is a company That allows me To put All Of The Things That I do and give them a meaning, a proper platform.
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  Speaker 0: And to channel in the right way for people so that I can kind of carry on doing most things that i love musically without having to compromise you know?
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  Speaker 0: I loved my solo career with music from myself but then always get where you have to choose and compromise because of branding what your saying or style you know, on the side I always had all these things going on which i didn't want to abandon.
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  Speaker 0: so one orchestra allows me to write for a multitude of projects from media music-for-media Music For Different Artists Orchestra.
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  Speaker 0: We have we've accompanied artists on tour.
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  Speaker 0: So lending then my string section My orchestra section.
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  Speaker 0: two different artists do their thing and follow.
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  Speaker 0: they're creative Followed Their Journey creatively.
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  Speaker 0: So doing creative directions for them.
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  Speaker 0: It's a lot of hours, but you know it is my passion...it feels like I'm here to do it!
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  Speaker 0: You never really....I can't recall the day where actually chose.
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  Speaker 0: okay i am gonna do this literally just show up and kept doing what I love.
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  Speaker 0: so yeah..here we are years later London Florence Munich You know, and it's beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: So whenever I talk to creative people... ...I'm always interested in learning more about their creative process.
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  Speaker 1: when working on creative projects What sources of inspiration are you using?
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  Speaker 1: And how is that process actually looking like?
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  Speaker 1: Is it like you've got a certain day.. ..and you have gotta write something or compose something?
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  Speaker 1: There is an idea kind of flying to your mind and then you're just starting to scribble it down.
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  Speaker 1: And sit on another day, do a whole thing out of that.
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  Speaker 0: The creative process always... It's a mess first off but there are lots to unfold and learn.
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  Speaker 0: It's always different.
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  Speaker 0: One of those things where we have to analyse and study a little bit and learn how to use it, like the right process for you if we make sense because its different from everyone.
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  Speaker 0: For me any evolves over time is not always the same.
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  Speaker 0: well so when I first arrived in London i went to university on some writing course that they were asking us to write three or four songs a week And this would be mainly for exercises, and then you start joining little projects where are starting to have deadlines.
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  Speaker 0: You're working in teams so generally just kind of...you know room with people surrounded by instruments..and that's the best way to do it!
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  Speaker 0: Just take out there and see what happens Obviously over time.
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  Speaker 0: you refine the process.
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  Speaker 0: You learn to know yourself and how it works with you.
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  Speaker 0: And for me Ideas, I mean you cannot sort of like control creativity kind comes to you right?
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  Speaker 0: You get your going through your days and you got little ideas.
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  Speaker 0: You hear something you see something experience something and you're like oh this could be cool for a song whether It's like a little melody a little riff or is something you here somebody saying like on um i don't know.
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  Speaker 0: on uh On the side book somewhere randomly and Yeah, I would just like you know record those little ideas in my phone or just write them down on a piece of paper wherever i can So that when I get into the studio?
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  Speaker 0: I Can You Know Unfold their idea and develop it and see And see what it is.
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  Speaker 0: Today.
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  Speaker 0: I'm doing a lot of traveling A lot of touring so all Of these he's on to go out get like three four ideas a day write them down, I record it down and then when i have studio time...I just work on them.
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  Speaker 0: And I still don't know what they're gonna be..i dont' know if its going to an idea for me or something that would work with a different project.
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  Speaker 0: It's just something cool!
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  Speaker 0: Being curious is what for me is essential because....I get to listen to all the voices in their head saying this is not good for these.
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  Speaker 0: maybe you should try instead.
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  Speaker 0: I feel like i'm just kind of, you know discovering something that is already there and it's not up to me to decide yet what is for.
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  Speaker 0: So yeah but its one of the...it literally this is why love lice sit down in a studio in front of our white canvas and just kinda being inspired And I do this literally every day.
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  Speaker 0: I try at least to do it everyday and that's how i stay, How I stay busy a lot of projects A lot of things that are working on simultaneously.
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  Speaker 0: so you know allowing that creativity To come into the kind Of taking shape It is essential what I love doing Every single day.
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  Speaker 1: So as we said in beginning met at the American bar at Savoy and I've seen you playing there a couple of times, even before we knew each other.
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  Speaker 1: I found some old videos on my phone which I recorded a couple years ago already.
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  Speaker 1: so... ...I really love that place!
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  Speaker 1: It's one of the best bars in the world.
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  Speaker 1: basically The drinks are amazing and music as well Of course And i always had to feeling this is also something very Yeah, very special to you.
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  Speaker 1: It has a certain place in your heart as well and it's not just like work but its little bit more still.
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  Speaker 1: But does this place mean?
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  Speaker 0: The American Bar at the Savoy Hotel In London Feels Like Home A Little Bit So.
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  Speaker 0: earlier I said that day one in london i would look for places where That Would Value What I Do.
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  Speaker 0: And The Marykombar is one of the first places where I went knocking and literally just like that, say hi.
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  Speaker 0: I would love to get a chance here.
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  Speaker 0: how do you do it?
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  Speaker 0: I was lucky enough find the right agent or people who helped me getting in there with my own show.
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  Speaker 0: Yeah, this might be like a little you know part-time job that I do while studying and who knows what the next thing will be but i'm loving it.
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  Speaker 0: It's just like place where can go...I've been there now for seven years six or seven years probably more And yeah!
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  Speaker 0: You know?
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  Speaker 0: And it's an amazing feeling.
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  Speaker 0: having a place where you literally can just like, for me is literally relaxing.
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  Speaker 0: It's some winding after long day even the evening I get to go in American bar and playing a show... You know?
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  Speaker 0: Is what i would naturally do as kid After school.
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  Speaker 0: I will sit at piano and learn how play those songs.
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  Speaker 0: so.. I'm kinda doing same thing.
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  Speaker 0: I'm incredibly grateful for having the platform to keep doing that.
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  Speaker 1: Would you say, especially for a musician who is in such wild range of things like you are?
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  Speaker 1: Is it important to have home base like place where there's a steady component on everything they're doing?
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  Speaker 0: Yes!
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  Speaker 0: I think it doesn't necessarily have to be a physical place, especially because you get into touring seasons.
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  Speaker 0: It can get quite tricky.
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  Speaker 0: You're literally in different city almost every day or week and there's lot of things coming at you.
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  Speaker 0: so...it is good to have like a physical space.
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  Speaker 0: But for an artist, I think it could be a little bit more of a mindset thing.
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  Speaker 0: You know when you have that mindset That allows you to kind of feel safe Protecting your creativity protecting who you are as an artist no matter where you are.
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  Speaker 0: It's what kinda keeps you going.
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  Speaker 0: sometimes You know like again, there's a lot of things happening.
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  Speaker 0: You're in the new place you meeting new people your playing on A new stage and then that's the adrenaline the anticipation The you're exhausted you traveling At least for me when I when i see at the piano?
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  Speaker 0: You Know everything else around kind of disappears for a second And I'm just like okay.
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  Speaker 0: II know this place This is my safe space.
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  Speaker 0: So yeah, the American Bar is my physical sort of home base.
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  Speaker 0: But then again I am lucky to share music in a lot places and travel alot so recreate that American bar feeling being at home and comfortable.
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  Speaker 0: it's what i do no matter where.
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  Speaker 0: I
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  Speaker 1: would say special way in interacting with your audience at the American bar, because maybe for listeners who haven't been there yet.
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  Speaker 1: The Savoy is basically one of the best hotels in London and it has One Of The Best Bars In The World And of course It's a bit of a posh place.
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  Speaker 1: You've got very international audience.
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  Speaker 1: people from all over the world are coming There And yeah, and you kind of found a very I would say professional passionate way Of interacting with your audience.
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  Speaker 0: Yeah
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  Speaker 1: Was that challenge in the beginning to find The right Way of dealing With the audience In A place like That?
• 29:50
  Speaker 0: Well i mean It's You learn Like it at least when I join At the Beginning its new environment And I happen to be right in the center at the centre of the room so i can't you know just kind of quietly Analyse it and see what's going on.
• 30:11
  Speaker 0: It's yeah, its a learning curve again.
• 30:14
  Speaker 0: music was the safe space.
• 30:16
  Speaker 0: So music was like this sort Of The key that would allow me to get in.
• 30:23
  Speaker 0: so I've always felt Safe with that with...it doesn't matter.
• 30:29
  Speaker 0: it doesn't matter where you are sometimes.
• 30:31
  Speaker 0: That's what I think when i'm about to perform somewhere new, somewhere that I don't know the audience very well.
• 30:40
  Speaker 0: bottom line people want enjoy their music.
• 30:44
  Speaker 0: hopefully they would connect with some of the classics and well known songs we all love.
• 30:52
  Speaker 0: so thats the bottomline.
• 30:56
  Speaker 0: thats a safety net.
• 30:57
  Speaker 0: it's all about music.
• 30:59
  Speaker 0: eventually, like as much we have our own artist ego which can be used in a good way.
• 31:08
  Speaker 0: It is not necessarily a bad thing but sometimes I really kind of like to step back and remind myself that its'all about the music.
• 31:15
  Speaker 0: so... So..it was very interesting for me actually to learn.
• 31:22
  Speaker 0: you feel a little bit intimidated at the beginning.
• 31:24
  Speaker 0: You are such an iconic amazing place.
• 31:27
  Speaker 0: people respond to it in sort of the same way as I've seen and different places.
• 31:35
  Speaker 0: And suddenly you realize that, maybe this could work!
• 31:41
  Speaker 0: I don't feel like necessarily out-of place... It's music bringing me here.
• 31:46
  Speaker 0: so hopefully people will value and understand.
• 31:52
  Speaker 0: I'm trying to say something and i'm just here of passion, enjoying the music that i am playing as well.
• 31:59
  Speaker 0: It's not showing off anymore than you've got when a kid is learning so it was very natural process for me.
• 32:20
  Speaker 0: it's been a beautiful journey, to be honest.
• 32:22
  Speaker 0: This is taking me back.
• 32:25
  Speaker 0: the first time I was in an American bar and i was a little bit scared.
• 32:27
  Speaker 0: though You never know.
• 32:29
  Speaker 0: you're in the middle of your own room playing music... ...you hope people would like that they can enjoy it And then you are good enough for one of the most famous bars in the world.
• 32:46
  Speaker 0: And yeah, it's been seven years now.
• 32:48
  Speaker 0: So I think we've done something good.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: so the year is coming to an end slowly but surely and at this time of the year It's always time for a spotify wrapped that little feature inside of Spotify where you can see what's the music?
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: You have been listening too over the past twelve months on the artists that happened your top artists and genres and so So if we would look at your Spotify wrapped for this year, what kind of artists would you see in like top five and what kind genres would be discovered on the list?
• 33:34
  Speaker 0: Interesting question.
• 33:36
  Speaker 0: It will probably a mix.
• 33:37
  Speaker 0: it's a lot.
• 33:39
  Speaker 0: I definitely spend alot time listening to call me music especially when I get into a very high season of touring.
• 33:49
  Speaker 0: in between, i always like to use music to unwind and kind collect my thoughts.
• 33:56
  Speaker 0: And getting that mindset that was talking about earlier.
• 33:59
  Speaker 0: so definitely alot feel good chill sort-of positive uplifting music.
• 34:10
  Speaker 0: But then again, it's a mix you know cause we use music as Spotify.
• 34:16
  Speaker 0: As our tool to get inspired listening different kind of things and so maybe I'll actually check the app after they interview can do a little.
• 34:30
  Speaker 0: second episode would be
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: interesting.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: A new year is coming up now and you did a lot of stuff this year.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Ever since I started following you on Instagram, kind-of life watching.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: where are your spending time?
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: And what gigs you're playing?
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: everything in between New York, Lisbon London Florence and Munich.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: so there has been a lot happening.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: published a new original song as solo artist, safe and sound.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: There is also an orchestra version of it that everyone can listen to on Spotify.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: off course you did alot stuff with one orchestral group.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: there's lot see on YouTube.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: what's up for next year?
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: What are your schedule?
• 35:19
  Speaker 0: A lot things this year has been incredible.
• 35:24
  Speaker 0: This the phase where I just get to stop a little bit to slow down and get to be grateful for the things that I've done.
• 35:33
  Speaker 0: Next year is going to be similar, maybe... A lot more music for sure!
• 35:41
  Speaker 0: A lot of collaborations, partnerships as well.
• 35:45
  Speaker 0: We have got very busy schedule already for twenty-twenty five And funnily enough, it's already shaping up which is crazy.
• 35:56
  Speaker 0: But yeah, so a lot of travels.
• 35:58
  Speaker 0: I'm excited to you know To keep doing what i do travel sharing music with people connecting with people.
• 36:06
  Speaker 0: it's Truly one of my favorite thing.
• 36:09
  Speaker 0: You've seen how?
• 36:10
  Speaker 0: Music has literally let us connect and you never know.
• 36:15
  Speaker 0: It's always.
• 36:16
  Speaker 0: it's Always interesting to see where music takes you And some definitely excited for twenty-twenty five.
• 36:23
  Speaker 0: Yeah, so keep following the journey because you know it's gonna.
• 36:27
  Speaker 0: It's going to be fun.
• 36:28
  Speaker 0: It can't be a good one
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: nice yeah.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: So I'm definitely following and hoping to see even more often on stage next year And also for couple of negronies or other drinks?
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: So
• 36:43
  Speaker 0: any time you're always welcome.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Thank You so much for your time and yes really looking forward to meeting you soon.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: again
• 36:52
  Speaker 0: Thank you for having me.
• 36:53
  Speaker 0: See
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: ya soon!