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A Brilliant Idea? – Roald Dahl Mug Controversy & Tenet Movie Review · Multiple Nerdgasm

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  I think I've worked out the worst thing about training people online welcome to
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  multiple nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
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  Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
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  Things
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  nerdy so I had to give training recently and it was all over online so everyone
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  had their mics muted and we weren't using cameras the same bandwidth but I
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  didn't know if my jokes were Landing or not so I present I'd say a little line
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  and then just silence that's great so I don't know I think I'm hilarious but I
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  don't know if they were sitting there sort of gig giggling to themselves or
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  just going disguise an idiot was this a jokey situation is this a what sir a
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  jokey situation because I know that your job can be quite serious at times I am
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  always the fun guy
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  yep yes you are I cannot take anything seriously and yeah so it's fine it's
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  training training you're meant to have fun I find joking bog training you take
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  more in cuz you then you start associating it with enjoyment but if
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  you're just there someone talking at you or showing you pictures or making your R
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  stuff you're not learning speaking of some I go for who is right now
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  concurrently doing two online degrees I can concur yes yeah look's that look's
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  that cool teacher everybody had that's right didn't learn Lear
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  anything yeah but you remember yeah and then you heard on Facebook that he'd
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  been arrested for for something like oh no we always wanted bet I know what that
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  was yeah yeah I was thinking uh about cool teachers the other day at Luke do
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  you remember Mr Maguire yes the history teacher Matt we had a history teacher
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  called Mr Maguire who uh one day showed up to teach us about World War II uh and
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  he shaved his beard down to just just the The Little Hitler Mo and he was
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  wearing what the the black [ __ ] Nazi dress uniform and he proceeded to give
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  us the lecture on Hitler in the first person Wow have was born in australa
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  1899 I can't imagine that you would be able to do that in this day and age
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  Christ he probably should have been able to do it back then probably not yeah
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  yeah in that he he's he's lucky there were no cell phones although I suppose I
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  don't know what he's doing now but we had a few strange teachers at our
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  school we certainly few divorces and hookups happened mhm oh yeah we had not
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  necessarily in that order yeah yeah know we had we had that
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  too the math teacher was dating the um the art teacher at one point and that
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  was a the students when we found out mate yeah small schools in Western
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  Sydney iose they're do you remember our teacher Mrs Novak
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  yes well I don't know if she's still there but she was still teaching when my
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  niece started High School wow wow and she was old then she was old then
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  teachers all are except they're not that's why it's I remember being in in
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  like early high school and thinking that
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  the senior high schools were so old like those kids are so much bigger than me
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  and I remember studing kindgarten looking at the six form kids going like [ __ ] I hope
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  those scary monsters don't come anywhere near me yeah speaking of kids I went
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  into a no I
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  what all right I don't know why I went
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  into a Toys R Us yesterday right and I hadn't been in do they still exist they
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  do right apparently cuz I haven't been into one for years but I was seeing a
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  movie and I was a little bit early so I killed some into always are us and um
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  things have changed a little bit since I since you're allowed back for one yeah
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  for for starters people live there they live inside there I I I assume that's
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  the case because people were treating it like it was their [ __ ]
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  home and there were just kids strewn across the floor in the aisles playing
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  with toys that I guess belong to them when I was young you used to have to
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  purchase toys in a toy store but now now you just grab whatever you lay on on the
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  floor and your parent just stands by watching you do it watching a person try
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  to step over you to get to the Lego to see what's new in Lego these days and
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  I've got to say it just that experience I think we should start hitting again I
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  think we no I have kids but we should hit them we should hit them
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  hard I remember working out I remember being a kid and I never did that cuz I
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  knew that if I did something stupid like that I'd get in trouble for it and also
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  I worked toys us and as a stor if you saw someone do that you walk up and go
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  stop that times have changed man you can't you can't tell a kid off for
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  anything now that kid will sue you it's could be a business kid then you're in
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  trouble yeah yeah parents are afraid of kids I was petrified by parents when I
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  was a kid yeah you're right there is that sense that that parents are scared
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  cuz they're like I don't know what I can do I'm going to get in trouble if I do
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  something so I'm just going to let the K wants yeah when I was a kid I didn't
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  have a sense of morality I just didn't want to get [ __ ] hit but then you
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  also when you growing up like that you think your parents are responsible yeah
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  yeah that's true and then you get to their the age that they were and you go
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  they were full of [ __ ] yeah man I am older than my parents were throughout my
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  my Early Childhood just blows my mind like how the [ __ ] did when my dad was my
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  age he had a 20-year-old yeah that's [ __ ] crazy same yeah same as mine
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  yeah yeah it was me as I couldn't imagine having a child and he had a
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  20-year-old yeah yeah that's [ __ ] weird but but but at least we had that
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  delusion that our parents knew everything and were in control kids
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  these days I don't think have that because they they must kids are smart
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  they must look at these scared shitless parents and just go you're a joke dad
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  you're [ __ ] joke what a [ __ ] [ __ ] yeah now now at the start of that you
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  did mention something I want to go back to go H going movies you went to Toys R
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  Us to pass time before you did what before I went to the movies it must have
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  been a SPO cuz you can't do tell me about it I saw I saw a great headline
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  the other day um Tom Cruz risks life for new film and the article was that he'd
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  gone to a cinema mhm to see the same film I did which was which was tenet so
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  in solidarity with Tom you went you see him there the latest Christopher Nolan
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  film tenant what did you think yeah I want to know what you thought I don't
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  want to know anything about want to say too much yeah and I'm not going to
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  mention the plot at all is there
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  one I'll say that I thoroughly enjoyed
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  my experience watching tenet was that just being out of the house or did
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  scared you know I had my my big box of popcorn and I was like I'm gonna take my
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  mask off to eat this but I really don't want to that's funny did they will they hand
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  you the popcorn with it was it like a weird awkward pause where it's
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  like are you sure you want this eat it yeah
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  exactly yeah you get outside if you want to have a Munch all right you don't you
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  can't that's I mean that's one thing but I mean you guys this is probably the
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  wrong crowd but have either of you guys had a haircut since the co
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  I cut my own I uh yeah as you can see from the video I also you had quite a
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  lot of haircuts mate yeah yeah one on top of the other no um that you have to
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  leave your mask on to get a haircut which is odd when they're like cutting
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  around the sides cu the ears are kind of in my opinion the most important part of
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  the haircut is like up and around the ears you can leave the top little bit
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  long they just leave that that would be weird yeah the monk so I did I cut my
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  own hair cuz it's getting a bit long but the ears are what's starting to annoy me
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  and I need to go get that don't cut your ears off Luke that's not you can't do
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  that they need to I can't put the no I'm sick of
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  hearing just grow your beard outwards yeah more so you've gotten the length
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  but you don't have the the the width well I I trimmed the width quite a lot
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  when it goes out it looks just a bit bushy czyy so I just trim down that's
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  what see I'm the opposite when I have you guys have noticed I've completely
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  shaved this week too um but uh CU you want to let back into Australia yeah
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  that's right yeah yeah they like he's
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  from the tip of Malaysia he's got weard um I just don't want anything standing
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  in my way at this point clean cut Australian boy mhm but because my face
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  is so long and thin I I like try to minimize the length and just let it grow
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  out until it looks like I've got like a finely chiseled Jaw that's that's the
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  one reason I have a beard whenever I grow one to give the illusion I've got a
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  normal shaped face reason I have a beard is I hate
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  shaving it is pretty neat not having to do that look Luke keeps alluding to the
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  to this implying that the tenant is bad because he has read some negative
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  reviews but I uh I not so it sounds like
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  it's not bad it's not bad it sounds like it's not up what the quality that were
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  used to I tell you what and this I'm not going to mention the film at all but
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  I'll just tell you a little anecdote so H and I are in separate countries right
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  now uh and we saw tenant at the same time I went to the 11: a.m. session she
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  went to the 1:00 a.m. session 1: p.m. session and we saw her at the same time
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  and then call each other to discuss she did not have the same experience I did
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  okay but she didn't hate it either but I got a lot more out of than she did it's
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  a it touches on time travel doesn't it I'm not going to say I'm not going to
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  say a word about the plot the less you know the better not that it's holy
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  original or that that's it's twisty or anything like that but just experience
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  it I mean [ __ ] Matt I don't even know when this is coming out for you I know I
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  don't know when I'll be able to see the [ __ ] thing that's the problem I mean
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  Luke's already said he just doesn't give a [ __ ] about this movie he's only going
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  to watch it now he's going to see it just a just a
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  Luke I would see it just to piss mat off yeah thinking about it I [ __ ]
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  desperately want to see this yeah yeah no you do uh you you'll likely think
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  what I did H had some criticisms and I couldn't disagree with her criticisms
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  they were all accurate um but nothing that's fine nothing really diminished my
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  experience I really enjoyed it do you think it is a movie you have to see at
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  the movies or is it fine just to watch at home I mean not have a choice uh I'm
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  I'm at the point now where I would say there's no movie you have to watch at
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  the movies yeah honestly watch it all at home and it was [ __ ] Freez in there
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  and especially social distancing there's like chairs between every and without a
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  full room of people it's [ __ ] C I didn't want to be that cold for 2 hours
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  you know this that's right they normally do have the air con turned up quite high
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  but yeah without the people in there generating that warmth yeah this says
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  home I can this says I can see it this week oh okay I'm just maybe since the
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  Embargo has been broken and the rest of the world seen it America's like just go
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  just [ __ ] go I can buy tickets I could go see it tomorrow today I see
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  it tomorrow you've got some homework Matt for next week I'm still working on
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  my homework I will get around to seeing Tron and Tron legacy I have another two
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  weeks Spider-Man into the spiderverse before you watch TR I
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  have I've purchased a movie that I have not watched yet um I'm planning to watch it
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  today I've I have I have ready to go
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  Bill and Ted face the music oh is that
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  out Y is that available for purchase
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  straight to On Demand oh man that's great what platform is that is that
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  iTunes or something or yeah I just I bought it on iTunes yeah oh I know what
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  I'm watching on the plane Jenna had not seen Journey uh so we watched that last
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  night and then today we watch Bill and Ted face the music so watch it this week
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  we'll discuss next week maybe I will find out if how to watch it here all
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  right but no I think what I'm actually going to start watching next is uh Robotech
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  again for some reason I decided to listen to some of the music for it I was
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  listening to We Will Win I got a bit teary eyed I've gone I need to watch
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  Robot Tech again well I watched something that you recommended Luke and
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  then Dan championed your recommendation uh I've been watching
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  Norman God it is good I just watched it again what a [ __ ] funny show I did
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  not expect it to be as fun funny as it is Dan's Frozen did you have you watched
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  it all or I've watched uh all of season 1 and I'm in season two oh Dan's back he
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  was frozen for a minute hello hello guys actually you guys both froze not me I
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  was fine no I'm going to say it was you that froze because me and mat were having a
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  conversation well for me it FR it I said to Matt does Bill and Tate's Bogus
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  Journey hold up and he went like this and then he just stay and I waited
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  and waited and waited while I thought he was just like how do I put this no the
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  answer well the answer to that question is yes I thought it I think it's really
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  funny think it's a very funny movie yeah okay I just found a site showing like
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  how to rent and buy it to rent Bill and T face and music is like 20 bucks to buy
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  it is 25 bucks yeah okay that's the world we live in yeah they're more
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  expensive because you know you're getting them
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  extra $5 who's renting it well I bought it on purpose because I want supp this
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  it's a couple of gig do you want to have it just sitting there no no cuz when you
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  buy it you've got you oh you can redownload you can rown I I just still
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  them buying the file you're buying the rights to it oh not this again which is
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  all yeah exactly you to be honest to be honest renting it probably is the better
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  option you're buying a license to viewer on that streaming platform as long as it
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  doesn't go away renting probably is their license
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  retains although for 20 versus 25 I think yeah purchase is uh makes sense
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  when it's like couple of bucks for the rental versus 20 for the purchase I Reon
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  sometimes that's probably the better choice but cuz you're kind of still renting it
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  anyway but but yes burgus Journey holds up I think burgus Journey was always my
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  favorite of the two uh really and I really do think it's a better I I think
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  it's better I still do I think it's better than excellent adventure but
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  really better even yeah okay interesting yeah I'll be honest I can't even
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  remember the plot of Bogus Journey I remember a lot of yeah they die that's right denoma
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  sends back robot versions of them to kill them to destroy the the band and
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  then they die and they go to hell and because the joy the the band brings
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  world peace right yes and he wants chaos and um is the second one the one
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  where they go the they realize they hadn't learned how to play any music yet
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  yeah at the Battle of the Bands they' defeat the bad guys and then they're
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  like now we have to perform they're like a [ __ ] we've been so busy we forgot to
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  learn how to play guitar so they use the time machine it's great and they come back
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  with so good yes and children and children yeah Little Bill and little Ted
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  they each have an opposite baby hey one thing I always knew about Bill and Ted
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  is that bill his full name is Bill s Preston Esquire right but I have since
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  learned that Esquire is reserved for lawyers if you have
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  Esquire at the end of your name it means you're a lawyer I believe really so I
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  don't know what that alludes to yeah well there's a bit in Bogus Journey when
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  they go to hell and his hell is having to give his grandma a kiss on her
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  birthday and she says she says give me a kiss and he's like no way granny s
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  Preston Esquire so I guess that's just his last name right oh okay sure
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  unless it's different in like Britain to America well what is the magazine Esquire
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  then yeah it it it seems to just be synonymous with gentlemen doesn't it but
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  I read somewhere recently that the actual meaning is it's it's basically
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  like the the the word doctor when you have a doctorate is that you put Esquire
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  when you're a lawyer oh no okay we've got a we've got a couple lawyers who
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  listen to this show in the UK Esquire historically was a title of respect
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  accorded to Men of higher Social rank in the United States Esquire is mostly used
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  to denote a lawyer okay there you go and apparently
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  that is a departure from traditional use face of music's only online in America
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  at the moment in Australia it's not out yet well I'll let you know how it
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  is yeah loving nor I'm into season 2 uh [ __ ] laugh out loud
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  funny uh yeah way more rape jokes than I
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  expected in a show of this era a sit like way more but then it's like what
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  else I mean they're Vikings what else are they going to I mean yeah I mean the
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  show Vikings on History Channel has like 10 seasons where no one gets raped right
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  that's very historically inaccurate for Vi well Norman lots of
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  it yeah it's sort of very accurate but at the same time just completely
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  ridiculous yeah I got to watch more in fact maybe I'll download them so I can
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  watch them on how far have you seen I watched the I finished first season and
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  I'm four four episodes of the first season only there was a bit in the first
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  season had no time for TV cracked me up in the first season but I don't want to
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  spoil it but um yeah it's super fun well
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  this there it's so simple it's that bit where um what's the chief's brother has
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  the flashback to when he's trying to smother him with the
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  pillow and go so funny just cuz he's
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  like too weak to do it oh God it's so funny such a funny show he's my favorite
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  character that idiot yeah he's great isn't he yeah cuz he's just such a
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  terrible Viking yeah with a chest full of dildos
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  [Laughter] spoilers yeah so good uh I started
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  watching a show this week actually called Messiah which was on Netflix I
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  was disappointed that it's not about a group it's not our Messiah yeah mixed
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  race characters doing a drug deal down at St Mary's abandoned train station in
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  the late '90s mhm with terrible accents and language you just cannot get away with anymore
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  unless you're in Bill and Ted and terrible terrible acting and and copy
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  music that mean Journey call a lot of people [ __ ] in that movie just for the
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  record they do each other every time they hug right yeah also y [ __ ] mhm sure
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  do so what's this show Messiah is pretty interesting it's from the point of view
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  of a CIA agent as a um a guy in the Middle East starts performing Miracles
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  and uh basically announces himself as the the Messiah yeah right and uh it's
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  really interesting actually and I I heard it got canceled after the first
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  season so I thought it's probably pretty good probably pretty good and and really
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  misunderstood you know so I thought I'd give it a and probably ends on a
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  cliffhanger as well yeah I'm sure it does yeah Messiah anyone good in it
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  anyone I would recognize it's got
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  Michelle Monahan who is the wife the
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  wife in the first season of True Detective that um Googl that
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  uh Marty that Marty cheats on with um that girl you really like Matt Marty
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  cheats on with the oh Alexandra Daria uh
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  I I finished BioShock Infinite and I just wanted to say I just wanted to
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  mention it to say that I really wish I had written
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  down what it was I didn't like about it the first time so that I could went on
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  and on about it Matt it'll be somewhere yeah just go back and listen there is an
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  episode where you and Dave say to me you're just wrong Daniel it's just not a
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  good game and I'm saying well I enjoyed it so maybe you enjoy you didn't enjoy
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  it and I did enjoy it but you know subjectively and you're like no it's
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  just I remember Dave telling me I wouldn't I don't understand it no the
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  thing is I think I think probably the problem was that I had the difficulty up
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  high because I was more of a masochist about that kind of thing back then and I
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  was forcing myself to get through it that I whereas this time I just kind of
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  I had just had it on like medium and immersed myself in the story and didn't
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  you know like I wasn't really worried that much about the combat think about
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  that game is it's not the greatest game but the story is great that's exactly I
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  think that's probably what the problem was because but the game is f the game's
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  okay no no it is fine it's just but I think I probably put it on hard and I
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  refused to budge and that's probably why I didn't enjoy it combined with the fact
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  that I was forcing myself to get through it and that's why sometimes you need to
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  lower the difficulty to so you can actually get through the fighting and
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  stuff to actually experience the story in the game a bit more like I did with
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  um the the Star Wars game uh you play on normal difficulty it's meant to be like
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  a dark souls type of thing like you go you play you die you go back and you
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  level up I put that onto story difficulty and enjoyed it I remember
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  Dave telling me Daniel you don't play as
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  many games as mad and I so your opinion
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  is void yeah I I was obviously wrong how can I not like it just because like
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  obvious I was wrong you are wrong it's great yeah and well see now I'm I'm
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  through I'm playing the DLC as well which I never did oh you playing barrial
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  at C yeah I'm into the second CH so good
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  [ __ ] fantastic like and again I think
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  it's that even like playing through the
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  main the main game by shook infinite I'm using vigors and things like that and
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  I'm sure like I'm sure I just didn't do that the first time I like I said I I
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  just I think the problem the first was me like because yeah yeah yeah because I
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  got back everyone was going on about it so I was like rushing through it and
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  then none of the moments landed properly because cuz I was just like yeah yeah
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  yeah come on I got to finish this [ __ ] game and then it got to the end
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  and I was like okay fine yeah I'm not I don't want to spoil it for anybody a new
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  Bioshock coming out soon I don't know man I mean it'll be announced shortly
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  not from Ken LaVine I don't think right we started discussing it again so yeah
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  that's that's true that's true we have oh yeah good point man I I even love
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  BioShock 2 and that's like no ijo bi about that game now I I want to replay
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  the the older one so I'm going to I remember when uh when qu and I first got
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  together I think Bioshock three had only just come out and I was playing that and
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  I was like trying to tell her why it was good and I was explaining the other
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  games and then when I got to explaining about number two and I'm like and then
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  you get to play as the little girl he's like oh you get to play as a little girl do you
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  that must be very
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  exciting mhm it is it is it really is such a new perspective on the game do
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  you know what I I discovered this yesterday Dan you know when we were at
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  pax's Prime and we saw the Bioshock Infinite panel where they showed the
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  version of the game that was quite different from from the game that we
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  finally got which is interesting because I don't know if that footage is
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  available anywhere I've looked for it actually I couldn't find it cuz I wanted
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  to see that still with the empire Strikes Back yeah because it um it
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  predated when they were streaming and when people really had a lot of cameras
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  and stuff cuz we didn't have iPhones then we had those flip we had those flip
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  phones on that so there was in that period just before all of the stuff
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  right so we saw we saw a version of BioShock Infinite so there was uh e Ken
• 25:18
  LaVine Troy Baker and Courtney Draper doing a panel about and they showed
• 25:23
  footage from BioShock Infinite and there were a bunch of things about it that
• 25:25
  were completely different I think uh cuz Elizabeth had healing powers she heals a
• 25:31
  horse that's dying there's a scene where she's her and Booker are arguing over
• 25:35
  whether she has time to like heal this horse and while she's healing the horse
• 25:39
  she rips open tear to I think it's it's the us somewhere in in the actual game
• 25:46
  that kind of happens but she opens a tear to Paris and and it's not she's not doing
• 25:51
  healing and so I wonder in the in the final game if you die she reviv a cross
• 25:56
  time as well yes yeah right in in the finished game if you if you die she can
• 26:02
  revive you but they never really explain how but I think originally she had
• 26:07
  healing powers in the in the version we saw that would explain why that's part
• 26:11
  of the game uh and then the other thing was that there's a sequence where you
• 26:15
  Booker you go into this like um gazebo and there's an old man in there with a
• 26:20
  shotgun and a rocking chair you have a conversation with him and then he goes
• 26:23
  crazy and then he has the murder of crows Vigor MH but but none of that was
• 26:27
  in the game M but we got posters do you
• 26:31
  remember we got posters oh yeah of i' forgotten about that and there were
• 26:36
  earlier versions of the characters and I discovered yesterday they're worth $150
• 26:41
  each what so I've you left yours in the hotel somewhere didn't you defitely I
• 26:46
  don't M that I've got I had two of them I don't know where you might even have
• 26:51
  mine well that's exactly right I might have because I I had two of them in
• 26:55
  Sydney uh but I don't know where they are now because I'm not in Sydney
• 26:58
  anymore so I can't remember what they looked like even it's I'm going it's
• 27:03
  just the poster right it's Booker and and Elizabeth in front of a wall with
• 27:07
  wanted posters and it and he's got the hand Cannon and she's like behind him
• 27:11
  it's just kind of like it just it was early concept art so I think there
• 27:15
  things and the quote on the poster is Dave saying I felt sick because I wanted
• 27:19
  to [ __ ] my own daughter exactly yeah it's Booker with a
• 27:25
  with spoiler and uh yeah so anyway yeah I just I was looking
• 27:31
  up um I like oh remember that panel that Pax you went to and I was looking up
• 27:35
  stuff and then I was like $50 for the [ __ ] posters I need to find those and
• 27:40
  put them in a frame yeah probably good posters anyway
• 27:45
  yeah no they they were cool but the thing is I had mine on my wall for a
• 27:49
  long time and I wonder if it just got wrecked and I disposed it cuz I I mean
• 27:55
  I've got we got a lot of posters of packs and not all of them end up being
• 27:58
  worth anything yeah sometimes you get posted it's like I don't really want to
• 28:02
  take this from you but it's rude to say no yeah and a poster doesn't fit into
• 28:08
  most suitcases so no you really got to want a poster I remember when I went to
• 28:13
  um E3 a couple of years ago and I went to that big EA event and this guy he for
• 28:19
  some reason decided to interview me for something filmed it and go like because
• 28:23
  you've done this we'll take you over and you meant to line up and get all this
• 28:26
  stuff but we'll give you these posters M yeah okay whatever gave me like these
• 28:30
  really nice high quality posters and I just went yep and just left them in the
• 28:34
  hotel threw them straight the trash like I'd flown there for like 4
• 28:39
  days just to go to E3 I had a backpack with me there was nothing yeah like I
• 28:44
  wasn't going to be able to take them back with me but I F bad going no I
• 28:48
  don't want them that was back before Anthem came out Mt do you remember the
• 28:52
  documentary exit through the gift shop yes about Banky and uhry Mr brainwash
• 28:58
  yeah what name yeah yeah so I if you recall I spent a few days with Terry
• 29:03
  doing a documentary film and at the end
• 29:06
  of that he gave me a painting and uh it
• 29:10
  was garbage it was really it was really a the documentary and I was and he was like
• 29:17
  here I'm going to give this to you and I'm like I don't really want this it's
• 29:21
  awful I'm not going to put this up on my wall or something you know is it worth
• 29:24
  something well that's what I thought but I the only reason I took it well I mean
• 29:29
  other than politeness was like maybe this will be worth something but then
• 29:32
  again I think the world's forgotten Mr brainwash now yeah he's kind of a flash in the
• 29:37
  pan revived the documentary but because you have people around you that go they
• 29:43
  would really like that and you sort of like yeah I feel weird about that at all
• 29:48
  yeah yeah I definitely do not appreciate this thing that I've been given that
• 29:52
  other people really would that's right yeah any anyone else want this yeah
• 29:58
  speaking of B though bangy uh like took
• 30:03
  a ship out to the ocean to like rescue refugees and then got stranded at Sea
• 30:09
  and had to be rescued wait how do they know it was beny uh cuz he' painted his
• 30:13
  boat don't we know who Banky is now I certainly don't he's a singer isn't he
• 30:18
  what oh yeah you think uh there is a rumor that he is um not the singer but
• 30:24
  the one of the guys from Massive Attack oh really M that's a rumor but there's
• 30:30
  rumors that he's a couple of different people I never cared until I met Terry
• 30:34
  and then I was like you know and you could tell me right so now I want to
• 30:41
  know it's it's interesting because based on what I know from the documentary
• 30:45
  Terry doesn't seem like someone who would keep the secret necessarily which
• 30:50
  is interesting yeah I know like I mean I've never met the guy but from what I
• 30:55
  know absolutely or not even just like he'd just be too dumb to just not say it
• 31:01
  well that and he would want the prestige that comes with sharing the secret sort
• 31:06
  of like he would want you to know that he knows so he would tell you know
• 31:09
  people can't help spoiling [ __ ] TV shows because they want you to know that
• 31:13
  they know that they knew yeah so that when you watch it later you can watch it
• 31:17
  and think back and go that's right he had seen it before yeah maybe that's
• 31:22
  right yeah he did watch Game of Thrones the night it came out he wasn't lying to
• 31:26
  me he really did watch it blood did flow at the Red Wedding that's
• 31:31
  right yeah confirmed um I think you're probably right and I think if there
• 31:36
  wasn't a documentary where Banky literally says hi I'm Banky and I know
• 31:40
  this man yes he he probably would have done that I think that probably saved
• 31:45
  him cuz now he's the guy who is friends with Banky so H yeah cuz he didn't tell
• 31:51
  me wink and I asked no I asked I'd tell you guys if I
• 31:56
  knew you talking hours of the listeners everyone yeah we'd [ __ ]
• 32:02
  announce it on this podcast yeah and and and it would still be as big a secret as it
• 32:09
  [Laughter] was we've got some followup on the uh
• 32:15
  the Epic uh Apple Google lawsuit business I listened to some different podcast this
• 32:22
  week and I got a different perspective on it there are people out there who
• 32:25
  feel that maybe Apple does have a bit of uh not a monopoly but like their their
• 32:32
  30% you know across the board is not always uh is not
• 32:37
  currently making people happy and maybe Apple should be thinking of changing
• 32:43
  things um but as long as things proceed as normal they won't so there's this
• 32:48
  attitude that like epic maybe is doing some good here but that doesn't mean
• 32:53
  they're going to win and they've now been uh they've apples terminated their
• 32:58
  mobile developer account the a court uh put in a order that said they're not
• 33:04
  allowed to they threatened to revoke their blanket revoke their like apple
• 33:09
  developer stuff which means epic would no longer be able to develop the Unreal
• 33:13
  Engine for Apple Hardware software Apple software so which would affect a lot of
• 33:20
  games on Apple [ __ ] lot of games like they would all stop working all of any
• 33:25
  game using the Unreal Engine I think and I sort of like this the judge was sort
• 33:29
  of it was a common sense approach like you're not doing Apple you can't do that
• 33:34
  that's a bit of an overreaction for what's happening sure but epic you're
• 33:38
  not putting fortnite back on there because you brought this on yourself
• 33:41
  well not only that apparently epic have submitted SE I mean I think three is the
• 33:47
  actual number I mean that might not might or may not be the number they
• 33:50
  submitted three new updates for approval since this all started none of which
• 33:57
  removed the the you know the payment issue and were just like updates one of them added a
• 34:02
  character from their you know their 1984 parody ad added the character to the
• 34:07
  game and obviously Apple reviewed them
• 34:10
  and said no no no that's fantastic funny cuz apple is still saying like as soon
• 34:16
  as you just move it back to the old payment system yes Apple's all these
• 34:21
  been very funny every statement from Apple is like regarding the situation
• 34:25
  that epic have created for themselves MH look here's the thing I mean it's it's
• 34:32
  Apple's platform they can charge what they want if you don't want to be on
• 34:35
  that platform don't but then at the same time is it a monopoly because you can't
• 34:40
  have a competitor to that it's not like you can go on another app store on the
• 34:45
  [ __ ] Apple device well the argument
• 34:47
  is uh if your developers uh are unhappy
• 34:54
  there's a problem like if if if it's come to this there's a problem and maybe
• 34:59
  Apple should consider the fact that maybe there is something that needs to
• 35:02
  be addressed here because how did how did it come to this like because epic is
• 35:06
  not the only company that's had issues recently like uh they're just the only
• 35:10
  ones that with enough money to actually do something like this and not go under
• 35:14
  like recently that email app hey which I mean we didn't talk about this but there
• 35:18
  was they got pulled from the app store because they there's this weird rule
• 35:24
  where because the the app store has gone it's it's gotten weird now this is
• 35:28
  basically the the biggest issue is that when iPhones came out the App Store made
• 35:32
  sense now things are weird because stuff's changing and Apple's not
• 35:36
  changing with it so you you had hey which is this email client right but you
• 35:41
  have to have an account to use it with hey but you can't sell it without using
• 35:47
  the Apple payment system so they just didn't have any way to purchase anything
• 35:50
  in there so it's basically you Apple said you download this app as a customer
• 35:54
  and it doesn't do anything so they said no get it out of the store and they're
• 35:58
  like well we're not allowed to tell people to go sign up because you won't
• 36:00
  let us and then so Apple's like well the app's got to do something it's like yeah
• 36:06
  it's they've created this weird situation for themselves basically cuz
• 36:09
  like Netflix no problem right it's just a reader app you can have a read app but
• 36:14
  everyone knows about Netflix so it's not a problem so I don't know it's but it's
• 36:19
  also it's not like Android where you can do the third party install right yeah
• 36:24
  there's no way to get well no no iable way to Rel whereas with Android you can
• 36:31
  actually just go make your own installer that will work yeah just put it on there
• 36:34
  there's no issue with it mhm but I think epic did that with fortnite didn't they
• 36:40
  and then no one used it and no one was paying that's right yeah because they
• 36:45
  wrote a big article about how the Google Play store added no value and
• 36:50
  then off back to it yeah exactly but so I don't know it's going to be
• 36:55
  interesting because I don't know that they'll win this like legally they I
• 36:59
  don't think they'll win I mean I'm not a lawyer but it seems like they doing it
• 37:04
  to win or are they just doing it to protest exactly the rules I mean I I
• 37:08
  can't see how a judge would say no apple you've got to change the rules like how
• 37:13
  you can't make them do that it's their [ __ ] platform yeah but but it does
• 37:17
  draw attention to it so like it's weird for the 30% I can actually see but it
• 37:23
  should be I can understand where com I should be to a point yeah well the other
• 37:28
  argument that I heard on which was really interesting is Right Xbox or
• 37:32
  Microsoft and Sony also charge 30% the difference is they do stuff for you
• 37:39
  right so epic make or made Gears of War and obviously I think Microsoft bought
• 37:45
  it off them but before that before that Microsoft was like [ __ ] yeah let's get
• 37:49
  Gears of War in front of people let's do branded consoles with all this kind of
• 37:53
  stuff like you get something out of a lot of Indie developers who basically
• 37:57
  they work very closely with Microsoft to get their stuff out like Microsoft
• 38:02
  helped them to go look you don't want to launch your game here you'd be better
• 38:05
  off suited to this window and help them get their game out yeah yeah so clearly
• 38:10
  since people aren't protesting epic's not pulling their games off [ __ ]
• 38:14
  consoles there's a there's a value they're getting there that they're not
• 38:18
  getting from Apple and yeah I think that's probably I can't say
• 38:24
  thatle like I don't have an apple or anything but Apple don't advertise stuff
• 38:30
  you people advertise on apps on Apple they do have they have like a feat thing
• 38:35
  in the App Store but it's not very good like they'll have like once a week
• 38:39
  they'll be like this is the featured game it's not like it's not like on the
• 38:43
  Xbox where you have like the banners and the you know the Branded stuff and Major
• 38:49
  Nelson telling me what to buy yeah Larry Nelson he brought me these headphones
• 38:56
  well actually he told me to buy these headphones for myself and I did it's a
• 39:00
  slight distinction there yeah it' be nice if you brought reimburse you what
• 39:05
  are they uh uh steel series all are we endorsing them or
• 39:11
  not I like them they work all right I think that's about as close as we get to
• 39:15
  an endorsement on this show yeah if they want to give us some more free stuff
• 39:20
  I'll I'll say more about them this is what you get for nothing
• 39:24
  they're good you should buy them which has 30% yeah but don't send Luke anything for
• 39:30
  free he's already got them send them to mat or me who don't have them exactly
• 39:35
  this is still what I with think I don't like getting stuff for free no I don't
• 39:38
  either I feel weird about you see all those influencers out there who contact
• 39:41
  and go hey I'll come and I'll stay at your hotel and you for free and then
• 39:46
  I'll tell my followers to go or go to a restaurant I have IND the shudos go hey
• 39:52
  have our game I don't I want to play it but I want it but I want to give you as
• 39:57
  well well that and I'm like you guys are nuts I feel like
• 40:02
  there's a there's a I know there's not because that's not how it works but
• 40:06
  there's a kind of a implied like you yeah you will speak
• 40:11
  positively about this because I'm going to give it to you and I hate that like I
• 40:15
  I I will I that's so I always say like if if we're going to get a you know we
• 40:19
  get a game code it does happen or you know we've been offered like podcasting
• 40:25
  stuff before and I actually turn that down because I'm like no we have the
• 40:29
  stuff we need and we're good cuz I don't want to have to say nice things about a
• 40:34
  thing I don't like yeah if you don't like it yeah yeah so I just don't I just
• 40:38
  don't do it I heard um what if or I tell them that I'm going to be honest and if
• 40:42
  they're not okay with that don't give it to me what I've actually started doing
• 40:46
  with uh game codes when I get them sometimes is I'll just give away a copy
• 40:50
  of the game yeah well we have to be careful with that so I will you have why
• 40:55
  because if if it's it's not that's not what those codes are for necessarily you
• 41:00
  can only no no no no no I I I I have the code I play the game and then I gift the
• 41:04
  game oh no but I'm saying so like I actually pay my money oh right okay yeah
• 41:09
  yeah like if you get given a code by a developer you can't give that to no the
• 41:13
  general public I use that code for me but then I've given I've given away
• 41:17
  codes on Steam like I'll gift the game on Steam and I gift the game on Xbox to
• 41:20
  go hey here's this right I wish I loved anything as much as Luke loves buying
• 41:26
  games he's already bought well it's with the ones like that
• 41:32
  is I want to support them as well yeah yeah and that's always been my thing
• 41:37
  like I've never liked the whole trading things with games because the only
• 41:42
  people who made money out of that were like EB Games and game and all those
• 41:47
  things the developers and Publishers got nothing out of it and I never like that
• 41:51
  but now those stores don't about supporting them no no you just buy used
• 41:56
  games on Amazon where you buy everything else I haven't bought a used game in a
• 42:01
  very long time no I don't think I have either but all my games digital now mhm
• 42:07
  yeah and if Microsoft hadn't got their way all those years ago I'd be able to
• 42:11
  sell or give those games away now but the internet lost their [ __ ]
• 42:16
  Matt and I just be able to play them yep yep yep no
• 42:21
  dramas yeah hey speaking about the internet losing their [ __ ] and ruining things uh
• 42:28
  just this could go anywhere it could right no it's it's I've just been
• 42:32
  thinking about Justice League right again this week because all right you
• 42:37
  know I mean Justice League was a movie no one liked it and then toxic fandom
• 42:42
  pretty much forced Warner Brothers to have to another $30 million into uh
• 42:47
  doing you know which is probably also not going to be good well here's the
• 42:53
  thing for some reason I allowed myself a couple of weeks back to start getting
• 42:59
  excited about it um and I'm no longer excited about it
• 43:04
  for two reasons number one I saw the trailer and we talked about this last
• 43:08
  week it's a pretty underwhelming trailer it's very slow
• 43:13
  it's not just that and you know what I realize I don't like CGI environments
• 43:18
  CGI is not the problem people say there's too much CGI in movies no no no
• 43:21
  CGI is great CGI environment how you use
• 43:25
  it yeah like if I'm just looking at just some big
• 43:30
  [ __ ] impossible to imagine volcano Universe I just don't give a [ __ ] I'm
• 43:35
  not making any connection to that like if I'm looking at New York City and
• 43:39
  there's a Hulk I know the Hulk is CGI but that's fine I recognize New York
• 43:43
  City right so that was the first thing saw the trailer the second thing is this
• 43:48
  week I rewatched Man of Steel and Batman versus Superman really I still have not
• 43:55
  seen that they're so bad yeah and I want
• 44:00
  them to be like my desire for these movies to be good is so strong that I've
• 44:07
  gone back a couple of times now and each time I'm they're worse than I remember
• 44:14
  they discussed the um the the the SN cut on my brother my brother and me and
• 44:20
  Griffin has not seen any of the movies and he said to Justin you've got five
• 44:24
  you got 10 seconds to explain what this SN cut is and he said this is his
• 44:28
  explanation is people think a filmmaker who hasn't made a good film since Dawn
• 44:33
  of the Dead accidentally made a good film and now they're demanding that the
• 44:38
  production company release it that's fantastic like the problem with Justice
• 44:44
  League wasn't that it wasn't long enough or dark enough yeah well the
• 44:49
  point of the trailer I think the reason the trailer didn't do anything for us is
• 44:52
  I think the point of that trailer was to show these is this is stuff that wasn't
• 44:57
  in the other movie I just don't remember the other movie cuz no cuz I've only
• 45:01
  seen that one time cuz I was not interested in watching it again right I
• 45:05
  did not want to give them any more money for that movie so I just couldn't tell
• 45:09
  I'm watching this very slow trailer with a bunch of it's oh this is the Justice
• 45:14
  League movie I watched this already yeah I've seen this it was tell REM what the
• 45:18
  Justice League movie was I honestly do not remember in what sense the plot the
• 45:22
  Ste steepen wolf no that was bat Envy Superman steephen wolf wants a c Cube
• 45:28
  yeah and they've got to stop him from getting the cube the mother box is that
• 45:32
  what it's called it's got a weird name yes yeah Mother Box yeah but don't go to
• 45:35
  motherbox do.com that's something different mother's box.com
• 45:42
  um but yeah I I just if what Snider had
• 45:46
  done was good they would have released that a long time ago and that would have
• 45:53
  been it is complicated because you've got the situation where his daughter
• 45:57
  committed suicide so he couldn't finish the film and then they already were
• 46:01
  worried about it because Batman v Superman people were like it's too dark
• 46:06
  and like not good so I think they got scared they got scared and they just
• 46:12
  changed the whole mie finished yeah I think it's more that
• 46:17
  from what I know from like insiders talking to like variety magazine is that
• 46:24
  he had finished his version he had handed it in in it was described by
• 46:28
  three separate Executives as unwatchable and they sacked him and they just didn't
• 46:34
  an and and they hired Jos Weeden to go and re-shoot half of it and this all happened
• 46:40
  before the and then when that happened they said this might be a good
• 46:45
  opportunity for you to announce your stepping this is your out that's a [ __ ] horrible
• 46:51
  conversation that was a really poor choice of words I just I know you this
• 46:55
  you probably been upset but this might look on the bright side this might be
• 47:00
  forus yeah your daughter has really done
• 47:03
  you a solid every cloud is a silver lining yeah we can now announce your
• 47:09
  failure without announcing your complete failure yeah it will now seem like your
• 47:15
  daughter failed at life and you certainly failed her as a father but
• 47:20
  what you didn't fail was making this movie Jos Weeden will fail for you now
• 47:25
  we'll all know that you failed but but the audience may not you'll know and I'll
• 47:31
  know your daughter will never know and that's a blessing that's a blessing in
• 47:36
  itself she'll never see this garbage what happens now when they release this
• 47:41
  4-Hour super cut SN movie thing and the
• 47:46
  internet doesn't like that either mhm the internet's not going to like it I
• 47:49
  can't wait for that have you seen the um I think the internet is going to like it
• 47:54
  which is going to be terrible Maybe yeah you're right yeah it it could go either
• 47:59
  way I hope they don't like it because if they like it then the internet will go
• 48:05
  complaining and bitching and doing this works imagine the balls on him though
• 48:10
  right imagine the balls on Zack Snider right after everything that happened and
• 48:14
  people were [ __ ] on people didn't like Man of Steel people didn't like
• 48:17
  Batman vers Superman and he's like no
• 48:20
  this one's good and then he's so they're
• 48:24
  like we saw it it wasn't good he had an
• 48:28
  out out he was making another movie and he his career was fine he was going on
• 48:34
  he was like no the last one was good and
• 48:38
  I will [ __ ] prove it to you yeah it give me 4 hours and I will show you how
• 48:43
  good it is every 4 hours and millions and millions more dollars $20
• 48:49
  million I do like the fact though I don't have to watch a 4H hour movie
• 48:53
  though I can watch four 1 hour episodes back to back so you can if you watch the
• 48:59
  first one and then be like nah [ __ ] it I don't feel watch there's also that
• 49:04
  possibility as well yeah they giving us an out too mhm I look I'm excited uh to
• 49:10
  not have to look at an artificial lip on Henry caval so bad that thing was just
• 49:17
  hideous that was just so bad that was embarrassing aot was
• 49:24
  embarrassing I was thinking about Superman right cuz I love Superman
• 49:27
  growing up the Superman was was great I
• 49:30
  really did and but the thing is if you
• 49:34
  read early Superman comics he wasn't I mean Superman's kind of known as the guy
• 49:40
  who just has everyone else's powers and then some but he wasn't always that way
• 49:45
  right no faster than a speeding bullet okay he's very fast he's not used able
• 49:50
  to fly you should be able to jump high yeah able to LEAP tall buildings in a
• 49:55
  single bound I mean that's really impressive but what he can't do is just
• 49:58
  [ __ ] fly more powerful than a locomotive that's a train he can [ __ ]
• 50:03
  if if he was hit by a train he'd probably survived that anything more
• 50:07
  also a locomotive to meet is a steam train diesel or electric not a not a new
• 50:13
  fangled electric train but like he he can't fight a planet like he did in
• 50:18
  [ __ ] Superman Returns you know like it's just that he doesn't get all that
• 50:23
  hurt if he gets hit by a train but the thing that something about this I love
• 50:27
  that he might show he'd be like Superman we've put together a bit of a bit of a
• 50:30
  test for you you get there and there like a tangar and he's like no I should a
• 50:33
  locomotive yeah yeah not fting this then I'll let you finish but I can explain
• 50:39
  why okay okay no no no I I've got something else but it's only semi-
• 50:43
  related so you you can you can CH in now the reason why he has gotten stronger
• 50:49
  now than he was back then is because he's in the sun's Rays so he keeps
• 50:53
  getting getting stronger and stronger and stronger more he's in it not in so
• 50:58
  when he was a small child he had the strength of a man but as he grew up to a
• 51:01
  man he got locomotive strength of a real so now he can yeah when he's old he'll
• 51:07
  be yeah but he has the powers instantly in in the in the films not instantly I
• 51:13
  haven't seen the films I've only seen the 70s Superman mov me and then Justice
• 51:18
  League you say chares up he does slowly ramp up to it they don't even notice
• 51:23
  that he has powers until he's like five or six and he lifts a car
• 51:27
  K yeah um the other thing that's always kind of baffled me about Superman cuz
• 51:33
  the super strength as as well is like obviously that's his thing right and his
• 51:38
  costume is based on a Carnival strong Man's costume like that's why he's
• 51:42
  dressed like that and that's just kind of become the no it's Kryptonian armor
• 51:46
  Dan sorry stop there no it's not no it's not that would kill him but what I
• 51:52
  Kryptonite not Kryptonite Kryptonian the the start of all the old Superman
• 51:58
  animated shows liveaction shows and I think even the the first film they don't
• 52:03
  do it anymore is that look up in the sky it's a bird it's a plane mhm then
• 52:08
  someone else chimes in and goes no it's Superman why was that first person
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  saying look up in the sky a bird it's a bird why is the second person going into
• 52:17
  a plane no I can understand the second person no you really it's a play yeah
• 52:21
  and then a third person going well actually it's way more interesting than
• 52:26
  anything that you guys were talking about yeah good point it's literally a
• 52:31
  flying human being from another planet yeah but thanks for pointing it out I
• 52:37
  would never noticed him unless you had pointed out the birds so
• 52:43
  enthusiastically guys look it's a bird all right yeah on all the days there's no
• 52:50
  Superman happening to be there look up the sky of bird it's like [ __ ] I stop
• 52:54
  and look every time you tell me to look there's many many birds up there calm
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  the [ __ ] down there's one over there on the
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  lawn yeah good point
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  yeah I'm [Laughter]
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  crying we got a geek of the week we got to talk about the geek of the week this
• 53:24
  is a geek of the week this week unlike last week who was last week I don't even
• 53:28
  remember now Internet Explorer oh yeah the guy the guy who invented the pixel
• 53:34
  died recently did we give him geek of the week the the oh like just the Google
• 53:38
  pixel or the the screen pixel the the
• 53:41
  pixel the pixel oh okay yeah that little dot I think we did I think we did
• 53:48
  discuss it maybe we have one this week we do but somebody else died this week
• 53:53
  that I was going to nominate and then took it back because an actual geek had
• 53:57
  died well you know yeah no I know what you mean well this I mean obviously he
• 54:03
  knew this was coming but [ __ ] I this came out of nowhere for seemingly most
• 54:08
  of the internet Chadwick Bosman died the Black
• 54:13
  Panther yeah of of cancer you can just say panther there's no need to bring race into
• 54:20
  this he died of colon cancer what's what's sort of crazy about this is It's
• 54:25
  not like this was new he was diagnosed 4 years ago and
• 54:28
  kept working releasing all these great movies he would have been going through
• 54:32
  hell yeah he's been [ __ ] just pushing through it all and then not said
• 54:36
  anything clearly and cuz there was people talking about how uh there was
• 54:41
  this theory on Reddit that he was looking like he was grumpy at some
• 54:46
  awards ceremony they're like oh I bet he's he's a knob Well turns out no not
• 54:51
  that that's not why prob just quite sick
• 54:54
  in a lot of pain wow [ __ ] hell yeah you know that they're saying that about
• 55:01
  Robin Williams have you guys heard this what it's a documentary com out that's
• 55:06
  saying yeah he actually hadera brain disease that was
• 55:11
  actually uh causing him to be his dreams would become real he yeah he was
• 55:17
  behaving very strangely towards the end and they think that the suicide was part
• 55:22
  of that I mean maybe not because I believe he was also depressed and people
• 55:26
  are just so quick to want to find a tangible reason why somebody might die
• 55:31
  by Suicide someone's so successful why would why what's the problem like but no
• 55:37
  evidently he Rob Williams had a disease that like it's incurable that affects
• 55:42
  your brain and they actually found it out and that yeah that's what they think
• 55:46
  was the reason behind it h well yeah that's a bummer and I don't want that
• 55:52
  disease no nor nor do you want colon cancer definitely not Chadwick Boseman
• 55:58
  had don't want either of those unbelievable it it was the creator of
• 56:02
  Scooby-Doo who died this week too oh a
• 56:06
  honorable mention yep Scooby Dooby died we could have Geeks of the week can we
• 56:12
  we don't want Geeks for the week no no ideally but we can have them I think the
• 56:18
  guy who made Scooby-Doo makes the cut yeah Scooby-Doo man anyway his name is
• 56:23
  Joe Ruby how long ago did he make Scooby-Do he have been a bit racist we
• 56:28
  should probably check he might get canceled soon we should probably
• 56:31
  everyone from the past was racist do we
• 56:34
  know yes I saw uh oh I I saw somebody had posted an essay this week saying
• 56:40
  please don't cancel R do um I think
• 56:44
  isn't it too late for that because uh there you know there I didn't read much
• 56:50
  of it to be honest but yeah it is too late for that and and that's why and he
• 56:54
  got cancelled um didn't he I thought wasn't there R already rolled baggy or
• 57:00
  skeletons or something yeah I don't remember I mean he's been long dead but
• 57:03
  it it's certainly it's certainly very well known that he was uh quite abusive
• 57:08
  yeah okay that's what I thought yeah yeah what the I'm just looking at the
• 57:13
  pictures and I I don't understand what people are upset about are you talking
• 57:16
  about so you're referring to The Mug right so um there's uh there's a roll
• 57:22
  doll mug uh in related roll doll news
• 57:28
  that uh sabes have had to pull from sale I mean because I do see what the problem
• 57:34
  is but also yeah yeah but but it's also not a problem because of a thing called
• 57:41
  context yeah that's the problem is it doesn't have the context so yeah but but
• 57:46
  I mean getting hit by an idea is is an
• 57:51
  idiom so the the mug says a brilliant idea hit her
• 57:56
  and it's got a picture of Matilda having a brilliant idea and they're imagining a
• 58:00
  comma yes they're imagining a comma after idea yes that's right so people
• 58:06
  are thinking that uh this R doll mug is telling you that hitting women is a
• 58:10
  brilliant idea um which is not what it says no I mean I agree that you
• 58:15
  shouldn't and that it's not a good idea but that really isn't what this says yes
• 58:21
  but but it doesn't matter this mug is hugely problematic is it you think
• 58:26
  people you yeah I don't know this like last week where we were talking about the
• 58:33
  Jaguar ad that had a little girl in it and everyone's like that is sexual I
• 58:38
  think the take it down and everyone's like whoa whoa why you find this sexual
• 58:42
  the worst thing that can happen with this mug is that somebody looks at it
• 58:45
  and goes does that mug say it's a brilliant idea to hit women I don't
• 58:49
  think somebody's going to be walking through the the store see the mug and go
• 58:53
  that is a good idea yeah yeah like I don't understand how you jump to
• 59:00
  that like and then also if you spend a minute thinking about it you go a
• 59:03
  brilliant idea hitter oh I get it like you don't even need a minute you
• 59:08
  need like a second yeah yeah you just need a command of the English language to know that
• 59:15
  getting hit by an idea is kind of an oldfashioned way yeah you get you get an
• 59:20
  idea yeah this is I think people are just looking for [ __ ] to be annoyed
• 59:24
  about to be honest this Mug's fine it's
• 59:29
  fine oh man also it's got a picture of Matilda are they saying like don't hit
• 59:34
  this little girl this fictitious little girl yeah I guess yeah I'm I'm I'm just
• 59:40
  so confused like what do they think they think this is encouraging people to do
• 59:45
  it like a bunch of abusive people are going to go out and be like have you
• 59:49
  seen this great mug I got let's all sit around and talk about how brilliant it
• 59:53
  is so weird you know Will Anderson the Aussie comedian I do I do TV host yeah
• 59:59
  um I heard his bit that he was doing once where he was saying that um the the
• 1:00:05
  census uh went through his show before he did his his live event that was going
• 1:00:10
  to be televised and uh crossed out the things he wasn't allowed to say on TV
• 1:00:14
  right and he's got this whole big uh
• 1:00:17
  spiel about doing cocaine right and um they're like this is okay but you have
• 1:00:24
  to remove the word snorting and he was like why that specifically
• 1:00:29
  and they're like you can talk about having cocaine you can talk about taking
• 1:00:33
  cocaine you can talk about doing cocaine but the second tell people how how to
• 1:00:39
  ingest it yeah right now it's instructional and you can't say it and
• 1:00:43
  he was like do you think there's a bunch of kids out there watching this with
• 1:00:47
  huge piles of cocaine and going [ __ ] me I will I knew how to
• 1:00:53
  put this inside me well that's like that uh what were we
• 1:00:57
  talking about the [ __ ] Hasbro thing what was that about where it couldn't be
• 1:01:01
  reproducible Vance video games Night Trap night night trap yeah yeah they
• 1:01:07
  have to come up with an elaborate scheme it's got to be something kid so you
• 1:01:11
  can't have someone stabbing someone with a knife cuz like well kids might look at
• 1:01:14
  that and go oh that's a good idea but if it's this elaborate machine then it's
• 1:01:18
  like they're not going to they're not going to build a torture device it's
• 1:01:23
  fine yeah which cuz I finished watching sh out episode that torture device is so
• 1:01:28
  scary bizar it's a lot worse than what a vampire would have been game turned out
• 1:01:32
  so weird all just because of that and then they backed out anyway Hasbro
• 1:01:35
  backed out so weird yep oh yeah did you watch that yet Dan No in fact I forgot
• 1:01:41
  what it was called when I went to look for what is it called high score I think
• 1:01:44
  isn't it um did I make that up high yeah high schore high score high score it's
• 1:01:49
  good but it's also um not okay so I finished I watched
• 1:01:56
  it all and I I really did enjoy it and I think it's something we need to look at
• 1:02:00
  our video game history a lot closer cuz there's really interesting stuff there
• 1:02:05
  reason why I also didn't like it was some of the funny things that they tried to push
• 1:02:10
  in I don't know just were a bit weird like what it's always a bit weird
• 1:02:14
  watching nuanced things that we know a little bit about that are kind of
• 1:02:19
  repackaged for a mainstream audience yeah just some the cartoon things they
• 1:02:23
  put in like when they were yeah I just thought was a bit strange and I don't
• 1:02:27
  think needed the episode about ID I did find it I find it really interesting but
• 1:02:32
  also I thought it was odd that they only had Romero on and
• 1:02:39
  not or you know to or any of the others anybody else who'd been there just
• 1:02:44
  because Romero is a is such a strong character that which is probably why
• 1:02:49
  they had him but also I mean if you're going for accuracy he's not the one I
• 1:02:55
  would choose like not that I think up and yep I'll be there ex not
• 1:03:01
  that I think yeah exactly not that I think he he's making [ __ ] up but just
• 1:03:04
  because he's very like he's a character like I don't think
• 1:03:09
  he's going to give you he's going to give you a story he's not going to give
• 1:03:12
  you the historical and that's the thing I'm talking about in that episode where
• 1:03:15
  they got like the cartoons of them drinking drinks and being on the
• 1:03:18
  computer like I I don't need that in the documentary yeah but I guess the really
• 1:03:24
  this documentary is not for us it's like that's what I mean they should make it
• 1:03:29
  for us it's too broad it's too broad like I really enjoyed it but it is very
• 1:03:34
  it's like they explain things that I mean I don't need explained but that's
• 1:03:38
  fine CU it's not necessarily for me it's for people who don't know about this
• 1:03:41
  stuff like the ID one I know all that stuff but it was still interesting to
• 1:03:44
  see him talk about it well you can go and watch that 4-Hour documentary that
• 1:03:47
  that dude made about how much he hates Billy Mitchell that he put on online for
• 1:03:51
  free I might watch you know I watched it you should read masters of if you're
• 1:03:56
  interested in the um history of ID as a fantastic book about there were a couple
• 1:04:03
  of really interesting episodes in that like about the the the creation of the
• 1:04:06
  cartridge and things like that like yeah and that's one of the ones that
• 1:04:11
  makes me really think that I wish I knew more about video game history cuz it's
• 1:04:15
  actually quite interesting that it wasn't Nintendo that came out with the
• 1:04:18
  cartridge first it was someone else making pretty much pong on cartridge
• 1:04:23
  something interesting I learned this week there was a big uh we didn't talk
• 1:04:26
  about it but there was a big Nintendo leak where a bunch of just stuff leaked
• 1:04:31
  from like leaked everywhere like old archival stuff like character models
• 1:04:35
  from old games source code and it's I don't know where this came from I Didn't
• 1:04:39
  haven't looked that much into it I just heard listen to a podcast about it the
• 1:04:42
  other day but one of the things that was interesting is that clearly Nintendo archives
• 1:04:48
  everything they just have all of this stuff cuz someone got it from somewhere
• 1:04:53
  at Nintendo I don't know was an employee or what it was I have no idea but yeah
• 1:04:57
  and so it's and then they were talking about how one of the problems with the
• 1:05:00
  games industry is that nobody kept anything like there are games that are
• 1:05:05
  just lost like it actually there's that one in the um in the in the documentary
• 1:05:11
  about the what's it called the the LGBT Q game that he made and it's he doesn't
• 1:05:17
  even have TR down but yeah he he moved and lost all the copies of the game and
• 1:05:21
  and now it's become this historical artifact and he doesn't the guy who made
• 1:05:24
  it doesn't even have a copy of it like and that's why there is the video game
• 1:05:28
  sort of Library Museum I forget what it is in Australia they're trying to
• 1:05:32
  collect a lot yeah I mean I'm sure preserve these games is that part of the
• 1:05:37
  uh the center for the moving image is it that the Acme Australian center of the
• 1:05:42
  moving image I think that cuz they have a they have something called project
• 1:05:45
  joystick which is their like game division yeah that they want to try and
• 1:05:51
  hold on to a lot of this stuff that yeah it's very easy to lose yeah yeah which
• 1:05:57
  is not hard especially since back in the day too like I mean some of the games
• 1:06:02
  that we used to play on I mean maybe maybe not once you get to Nintendo level
• 1:06:05
  but certainly Atari and all of those like like you the shop you bought the
• 1:06:10
  game from might have been like the dude
• 1:06:13
  who [ __ ] made the game right like the you know at a certain point like and the
• 1:06:20
  old c64 games like right well even a lot of the shareware stuff the stuff that
• 1:06:25
  was basically people made they sent out on discs and you got a share where copy
• 1:06:31
  of the game there's a game Factory I think it was where I had you made like
• 1:06:36
  hot dogs and hamburgers and stuff like I love this game I canot find this game
• 1:06:40
  anywhere cuz you love hot dogs go mad for them I like hot dogs until I throw
• 1:06:45
  [Laughter]
• 1:06:48
  up but no this game I cannot find a copy anywhere and I would like to go back and
• 1:06:55
  play see if I can find well I mean they'll remake it now that we've mentioned it on
• 1:06:59
  the podast and and on that note I'd like to request the game too Gog specifically
• 1:07:05
  I want you to um I want you to release Frankenstein Through The Eyes of the
• 1:07:10
  monster oh have a copy of that on dis somewhere yeah I got a copy of I've got
• 1:07:15
  the dis image too but uh I got nothing to run it on yeah and uh I I want to
• 1:07:20
  play it again because it was great it was super atmospheric and it starred Tim Curry yep
• 1:07:27
  yeah right you play as the monster and you wake up on the slab with like
• 1:07:32
  Frankenstein cackling over you and you're like well [ __ ] the [ __ ] am I yeah
• 1:07:39
  and how do I get out of this maniac's Castle then go down the
• 1:07:46
  segments yeah I found some abandoned wear sites where you can download it but
• 1:07:51
  just not in it won't run yeah it won't run has been set up to work on Modern
• 1:07:56
  Windows 10 oh okay okay okay I'm not
• 1:08:02
  saying it will I don't know but I no you just said you just said you have set
• 1:08:06
  this game up
• 1:08:10
  yeah I okay I will report back next week and I will let you
• 1:08:15
  know yep I got a quarantine coming up all right it's still got Tim Curry's
• 1:08:20
  voice like it's me to be there it's full motion video back when a game was 3 87
• 1:08:26
  Meg oh it's not free though is it not well that's actually a good thing
• 1:08:32
  though is it yes [ __ ] site won't even load
• 1:08:38
  see free yeah I think having to pay for something there's higher chance that
• 1:08:44
  there's work that's got into it that would make it work actually it's not the
• 1:08:47
  game that you have to pay for you have to pay for the downloader and I can either pay
• 1:08:52
  $7.95 for a day's access to it or $195 30 days access that's a scam yeah this
• 1:08:59
  place is trying to steal all your stuff yeah or there's free
• 1:09:04
  download I don't know I didn't look into this at all I just Googled and it was
• 1:09:08
  the first s I've done a lot Googling is say you end up with
• 1:09:14
  viruses that and prostitutes that's all for this week
• 1:09:20
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