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Ep. 43: Question of Turnovers | Jags A.M. Podcast · Jags A.M.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars looking to bounce back after a tough loss to
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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. What's your biggest concern going up
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Speaker 1: against the Titans?
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Speaker 2: Mike Vrabel, He always has this team ready to play.
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Speaker 2: We k teen last year he had Joshua with Dobbs
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Speaker 2: and the Jaguars needed a late miracle to make it happen.
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Speaker 3: Stay out of your own way.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jagszam on this Thursday. I'm Kannannie Stephens, Brian Sexton,
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Speaker 1: John Osier with us as we get ready for the
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Speaker 1: Titans matchup this Sunday. We put the forty nine ers
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Speaker 1: in the rear view mirror. We're focused forward now because
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Speaker 1: this is a big divisional matchup. We talked about it
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Speaker 1: all week. It's gonna have big repercussions, especially going to
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Speaker 1: the Texans the week after.
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Speaker 2: You know, the Jaguars had lost five in row to
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Speaker 2: the Titans entering last season, and they won both of
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Speaker 2: those and it felt huge because they had solved the
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Speaker 2: Derrick Henry diloma. They had figured out some things. Of course,
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Speaker 2: the Titans were all beat up. Now you want to
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Speaker 2: keep that going. We talked a little bit yesterday about
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Speaker 2: you're the big dog in the division, or you're supposed
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Speaker 2: to be the big dog in the division. With rookie
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Speaker 2: quarterbacks across their roster, this is a week to prove it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm the first guy.
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Speaker 5: You Guys hear me all the time talk about how
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Speaker 5: dangerous the Titans are. I never really believe you've got
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Speaker 5: that team until you put them away. But that being said,
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Speaker 5: the reason I answered the top of the question show
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Speaker 5: the way I did. I think this game is more
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Speaker 5: about the Jaguars and is about the Titans. The Titans
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Speaker 5: are fine. If you don't play well, they can get you.
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Speaker 5: But you've got to not turn the ball over. And
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Speaker 5: then you've got to play defense, meaning stop the run,
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Speaker 5: create turnovers if you play to what you believe your
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Speaker 5: identity is, which is creating turnovers, being smart on offense.
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Speaker 5: They haven't been that, so they believe their offense is
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Speaker 5: and stopping the run. You're fine against this team, but
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Speaker 5: they haven't done that enough.
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Speaker 1: Got to help yourself. Let's go over some of the
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Speaker 1: things we have for you this week. We're gonna start
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Speaker 1: out with the tail of the turnovers. That's been a
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Speaker 1: buggaloo for this team as of late. Finally caught up
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Speaker 1: with them against San Francisco. Trevor Lawrence talked yesterday about
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Speaker 1: some of those issues, so things like that.
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Speaker 6: You know, I don't harp on too much those four
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Speaker 6: count situations like that, But the other ones, you know,
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Speaker 6: go back to Pittsburgh game, the one in the end zone,
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Speaker 6: go back to I think there's one against Indy, there's
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Speaker 6: one against Houston. Those are the ones that I can
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Speaker 6: think of where I feel like I didn't make a
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Speaker 6: great decision. So I think more more the issue personally
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Speaker 6: individually has been hanging on to the ball, you know,
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Speaker 6: in the pocket, getting stripped, if I am taking a hit,
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Speaker 6: keeping two.
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Speaker 4: Hands on it.
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Speaker 6: You know, I gotta do a better job of that.
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Speaker 6: And then collectively as an offense, you know, we have
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Speaker 6: to do a better job as a whole of just
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Speaker 6: not giving the ball away. We've had too many this season.
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Speaker 1: John, we talked a little bit about, you know, that
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Speaker 1: throwaway kind of interception at the end of the game.
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Speaker 1: Not talking about that, but just being smarter, whether it's
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Speaker 1: throwing the ball away when you're in field goal range,
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Speaker 1: not taking a sack, or you know, when you tried
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Speaker 1: to fire it off Tank's hands at one point in
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Speaker 1: the San Fran game and just is that just Trevor
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Speaker 1: trying to force stuff because he wants to make something happen.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there's an element in the ozone podcast that's.
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Speaker 4: Last week.
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Speaker 5: I talked to Travis Etn and he had a fascinating
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Speaker 5: part of it where he talked about how he had
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Speaker 5: to learn to run in the NFL, meaning he had
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Speaker 5: to learn that it was okay to take a four
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Speaker 5: yard run. He said that was really hard for me,
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Speaker 5: that he couldn't beat everybody to sidelines. You saw it
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Speaker 5: last year, and it's hard to incorporate that if you're
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Speaker 5: a running back when you're first figuring it out. But
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Speaker 5: you saw it last year trying to make every play
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Speaker 5: a touchdown. Well, now he's a much better running back
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Speaker 5: because he has an NFL mindset.
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Speaker 4: I think there's a degree of that with Trevor, and
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Speaker 4: he's such a.
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Speaker 5: Talented guy and he's the quarterback believes that he can
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Speaker 5: make a big play on every play. We talked about
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Speaker 5: it earlier. The Tank Bigsby interception last week. No need
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Speaker 5: for the ball to be thrown because it was not
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Speaker 5: going to be.
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Speaker 4: A play that led any where, even if it so,
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Speaker 4: even if he.
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Speaker 5: Catches that ball, it's it's a two or three yard loss.
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Speaker 5: Now Trevor has no way of knowing how the play
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Speaker 5: is going to eventually go, but you can lower your
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Speaker 5: risk in a situation. Uh, and just dirting the ball
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Speaker 5: much the same way in the pocket. It felt like
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Speaker 5: Indy when he got hurt trying to make a play
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Speaker 5: outside where you just got to learn to sort of
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Speaker 5: take it. Now, you don't want to curtail the instincts
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Speaker 5: that this kid has because.
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Speaker 4: He makes special happen.
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Speaker 1: Uh.
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Speaker 4: So what we're talking, I'm sitting here saying it. I
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Speaker 4: don't know if I can do it in real time.
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Speaker 5: It's situation, but that's what you gotta do, and that
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Speaker 5: I think is his next process to becoming elite is
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Speaker 5: figuring out those situational awareness.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got to know what's going on around you.
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Speaker 2: Which it's the throw in the end zone last year
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Speaker 2: against Houston or and this year this year against Pittsburgh.
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Speaker 2: I'll give you a better one or one that stands
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Speaker 2: out more to me. It was against the Bills in London.
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Speaker 2: They get the ball with eat across midfield right in
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Speaker 2: their second half and they're looking to hold off the
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Speaker 2: Bills who were charging and the ball goes over his head.
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Speaker 2: Just fall on it, just recover the ball, live to
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Speaker 2: find another place and he kind of fumbles to pick
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Speaker 2: it up and then he runs and someone's wrapped around him,
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Speaker 2: and then he tries to throw with an arm up.
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Speaker 2: Don't just go down. Punting is okay, and that's something
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Speaker 2: he has to learn.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, there is a school of thought.
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Speaker 5: If you end every possession with a kick, you're okay.
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Speaker 5: And you don't want to completely go that direction, because again,
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Speaker 5: the NFL is about making plays and quarterbacks.
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Speaker 4: You're gonna have mistakes. But I do remember with the
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Speaker 4: Colts when I first got there.
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Speaker 5: Peyton Manning was very interception from Tony Dungee got there
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Speaker 5: and I asked him, I said, well, isn't isn't a
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Speaker 5: quarterbacking this day and age. You're gonna have some picks, right,
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Speaker 5: you gotta live with that, And Tony's like, nah, now
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Speaker 5: you really don't. Well, one year after Tony got there,
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Speaker 5: Peyton went on a run where it was it was
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Speaker 5: ten in or seven and lower. So the point is
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Speaker 5: you can have explosive offense with that interception. And this
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Speaker 5: is sort off topic because I don't think Trevor's super
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Speaker 5: interception prone. It's just more situations where the fumbles in
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Speaker 5: the pocket, he said yesterday, those are ones that sometimes
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Speaker 5: you just get blasted from behind. It's going to happen.
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Speaker 5: But there are other times where he'd be the first
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Speaker 5: to tell you there can be better ball protection. And
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Speaker 5: it's a turnover, sack fumble like that is such a moment.
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Speaker 5: It's not just one play, it's a couple of series
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Speaker 5: that it takes you. The other day fumbles on the
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Speaker 5: forty eight, Yeah they stopped him, but the field position
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Speaker 5: was all sort of tucked back against the Jaguars.
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Speaker 4: Those are tough things to overcome.
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Speaker 2: Last five games, twelve turnovers. That they're four and one
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Speaker 2: is a miracle, right, The numbers say you should be
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Speaker 2: two and three. Right. You just don't win when you
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Speaker 2: turn the ball over that much. If they're going to
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Speaker 2: change the trajectory and go where they want to go, oh,
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Speaker 2: they got to protect the football.
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Speaker 1: The reason they were able to do that is because
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Speaker 1: of our big thing number two today, which is tail
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Speaker 1: of the takeaways. The defense has been miraculous and takeaways.
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Speaker 1: The differentials not great because of the turnovers. But racheon
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Speaker 1: Jenkins talked to us on Monday, and he said, the
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Speaker 1: team really needs to get.
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Speaker 7: Back to that we w I mean, we got to
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Speaker 7: help our offense out in situations like that, just just
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Speaker 7: I mean really because that that was a great defense
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Speaker 7: that they they were playing against yesterday. So we have
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Speaker 7: to you know, those are one of those games you
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Speaker 7: just have to go defense for defense, and we we
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Speaker 7: know what our formal is on our defense, and that
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Speaker 7: is takeaways. We've done a great job thus far with
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Speaker 7: the takeaways, but we know, you know, in order for
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Speaker 7: us to continue to have the sess success that we
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Speaker 7: were having, uh, we had to have those takeaways.
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Speaker 1: Ran the success of this defense a lot of it
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Speaker 1: is stopping the run and forcing turnovers, and they didn't
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Speaker 1: really do that against San Francisco and they didn't play
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Speaker 1: very well. Obviously a great team they're facing offense, but
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Speaker 1: how do you get.
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Speaker 2: There to that saw a shocking number yesterday that the
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Speaker 2: Jaguars are zero and twenty in the last twenty games
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Speaker 2: in which they have not forced a turnover. Oh and
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Speaker 2: twenty they've lost the last twenty games in which they
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Speaker 2: have not taken the ball away. It's amazing. You have
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Speaker 2: got to get back to that mentality. Especially, we're a
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Speaker 2: quarterback at an offense that are turnover prone. Right now,
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Speaker 2: you have got to give them an extra possession, You've
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Speaker 2: got to give them a shorter field. You've got to
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Speaker 2: make it easy on an offense that right now is
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Speaker 2: still trying to find itself. I'm amazed that here we
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Speaker 2: are coming up on Thanksgiving and we're still talking about
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Speaker 2: an offense that hasn't found itself. John. But if the
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Speaker 2: defense doesn't do some things to help them right now,
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Speaker 2: they're not capable.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, play the other way a little bit.
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Speaker 5: I think sometimes turnovers can be chicken an egg, meaning
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Speaker 5: you know, if you're trailing ten, nothing off off the
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Speaker 5: get go to team like San Francisco and then thirteen
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Speaker 5: and three, Well, they're built to very easily not turn
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Speaker 5: the ball over a whole lot. So some of that
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Speaker 5: is sort of self fulfilling, if that makes sense. Now,
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Speaker 5: I'm not saying they couldn't got any turnovers, but in
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Speaker 5: that game, I think about what happened early in that game.
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Speaker 5: All of a sudden, you had the short punt by
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Speaker 5: Logan Cook, which is incredibly unusual, but all of a sudden,
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Speaker 5: San Francisco starts on their thirty seven. It's been a
9:15
Speaker 5: long time since a field position has really played into
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Speaker 5: this team's favor this year the Jaguars. So when San
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Speaker 5: Francisco gets the ball in that situation, they're gonna be
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Speaker 5: a little smarter. The great teams are not gonna turn
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Speaker 5: the ball over to you, and they have a good
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Speaker 5: situation in hand because they know to protect leads.
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Speaker 4: That being said, this team has turned the ball.
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Speaker 2: But we'll go back to the previous loss against CJ.
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Speaker 2: Stroud and the Texans back in September. That's a rookie
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Speaker 2: quarterback who had thrown the ball all over the place. Now,
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Speaker 2: he hadn't been interceptive at that point in his career.
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Speaker 2: You would think you'd be able to break the narrative,
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Speaker 2: which was the Jaguars getting in their own way for
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Speaker 2: most of the game, and they couldn't get it done. So,
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Speaker 2: I mean, I do get the other side of this thing.
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Speaker 2: But you've got a rookie quarterback this week, and Will
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Speaker 2: Loves who has shown a propensity to just chuck the
9:59
Speaker 2: b down the field. He had in the touchdown pass
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Speaker 2: since the Falcons game, which was winning through four. So
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Speaker 2: he's gonna come out gunning, go get it.
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Speaker 4: I'm going to see it.
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Speaker 1: Our final big thing this week is tale of the Titans, because,
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Speaker 1: as we mentioned, they're not the Titans were always used
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Speaker 1: to seeing their three and six. This year, they've had
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Speaker 1: some struggles for sure, and Trevor talked a little bit
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Speaker 1: about what this division is like right now and why
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Speaker 1: this is so important.
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Speaker 6: We look at our division and it's it's a pretty
10:27
Speaker 6: tight it's a pretty tight race right now. You know,
10:29
Speaker 6: we're technically in first, but we're i mean, the Texans
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Speaker 6: and the Cults are right there. So and then the
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Speaker 6: Titans they're still i mean they're three and six, so
10:37
Speaker 6: they're still we're still so early in the season. We
10:39
Speaker 6: were in their position to think about it last year,
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Speaker 6: so we understand their sense of urgency. On the on
10:44
Speaker 6: the flip side of that is they know how big
10:47
Speaker 6: this game is too, so we're going to get their
10:48
Speaker 6: best shot. They're a good team.
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Speaker 1: Talking a little bit about last year where it the
10:52
Speaker 1: Jaguars were kind of in their position and then they
10:54
Speaker 1: came back to win the division titles. So that just
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Speaker 1: shows how important this is to kind of get as
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Speaker 1: big of a lead as you can, as early as
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Speaker 1: you can.
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Speaker 2: Their offensive line had long been a strength for them,
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Speaker 2: and those guys have now gone away where the retirement
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Speaker 2: and injury or free agency. And of course Derrick Henry
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Speaker 2: is reaching that moment where big power running backs start
11:13
Speaker 2: to decline, although he's averaging over four yards carry and
11:16
Speaker 2: if you give him enough carries, he can really do
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Speaker 2: some damage to you. That being said to me, this
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Speaker 2: is all about these Jaguars being ready for this game
11:25
Speaker 2: because last year they're playing for the playoffs. Guy, and
11:28
Speaker 2: it's a primetime game here and Mike Vrabel comes in
11:31
Speaker 2: with a guy that they had plucked off of the
11:32
Speaker 2: Detroit Lions practice squad. No, we know Josh Dobbs because
11:35
Speaker 2: he was here for a time in twenty nineteen, and
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Speaker 2: then we've seen what he's done this year in Arizona
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Speaker 2: and Minnesota. Nothing against Josh Dobbs, but there was no
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Speaker 2: way that that Jaguars team was on a winning streak
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Speaker 2: should have struggled like they did against Josh Dobbs in
11:49
Speaker 2: primetime with the playoffs on the light, and yet they did.
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Speaker 2: So this team has got to be ready to avoid
11:55
Speaker 2: the sort of what do you want to call it?
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Speaker 2: Letdown that they had on Sunday against the forty nine
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Speaker 2: ers bloodbath. They've all used the term we laid an
12:06
Speaker 2: egg man. You can't lay an egg in the first
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Speaker 2: quarter and beat that guy on Sunday.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a huge game. It's out of time for
12:16
Speaker 5: panic because most seasons, even when it team's good, it's
12:21
Speaker 5: pretty rare at mid season.
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Speaker 4: To have a five game lead and feel like you
12:25
Speaker 4: clinch the thing.
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Speaker 5: It's the NFL. You're gonna have a couple of bad games.
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Speaker 5: Teams are gonna get close. It's still early. Everybody's so
12:33
Speaker 5: bent up about the Texans, and I get the Texans
12:35
Speaker 5: are fine, but they've also won the last two games
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Speaker 5: by a narrow margin.
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Speaker 4: They've had their time.
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Speaker 5: If you win the next two, you can make this
12:44
Speaker 5: surge feel almost incidental. But guess what the Texans, if
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Speaker 5: they win their next two, they can make this surge
12:51
Speaker 5: feel really important.
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Speaker 4: That's what the.
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Speaker 5: NFL is all about. So I think the Jaguars, I
12:56
Speaker 5: think they're gonna recover. I think they have been very
12:58
Speaker 5: good coming off bad law Is under Peterson.
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Speaker 4: I think they're going to go on a little run here.
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Speaker 5: But they got to go do it just because I
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Speaker 5: say it a main Yeah, you know they played awsome.
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Speaker 4: If it did, right, I mean I can say what.
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Speaker 2: Else do you want?
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Speaker 4: Right?
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Speaker 2: I mean if you just throw out be sitting here. Look,
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Speaker 2: this is simple. This is real armchair analysis. This team
13:17
Speaker 2: can play better on both sides of the ball. Although
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Speaker 2: the defense is really played well this year. Time to
13:21
Speaker 2: go play well, right? I mean, this is November when
13:25
Speaker 2: the pretenders are separated from the contenders. November is that fulcrum,
13:30
Speaker 2: that swing point in the season where you start to
13:32
Speaker 2: identify who can and who cannot prove it. Let's go,
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Speaker 2: let's do it.
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Speaker 4: Stay with us.
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Speaker 1: Coming up after the break, we're going to go over
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Speaker 1: the impact players what we think they'll be doing in
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Speaker 1: the game this weekend, Brian, who are you looking at?
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Speaker 2: I'm going with Josh Allen for my will He won't,
14:13
Speaker 2: he might, and I think he will have a big game.
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Speaker 2: He played well last Sunday. He didn't have the numbers
14:18
Speaker 2: against Trent Williams, but he more than held his own,
14:22
Speaker 2: and so I think he breaks through this week. Now
14:24
Speaker 2: it might not always be him, It might be the
14:27
Speaker 2: guy on the other side, Trayvon Walker, who last week
14:30
Speaker 2: played probably his best game as a pass rusher. We
14:34
Speaker 2: couldn't really talk about it this week because everything else
14:36
Speaker 2: was bad, but he was right there in the face
14:38
Speaker 2: of the quarterback. And Josh Allen might be in the
14:42
Speaker 2: pocket pushing things his direction and won't get the numbers,
14:46
Speaker 2: but you'll feel Josh Allen. You also might feel Treyvon
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Speaker 2: Walker because of Josh.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I agree. I think the edge of guys
14:55
Speaker 5: have been good all season. I think circumstances in each
14:58
Speaker 5: game will determine how many.
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Speaker 4: Sacks those guys get. That's usually the case.
15:02
Speaker 3: I went with Calvin Ridley.
15:06
Speaker 5: He will be a factor offensively, and he will draw
15:10
Speaker 5: in interference penalty because he always does. I think sometimes
15:13
Speaker 5: that has gotten lost this year. His numbers have frustrated fans.
15:18
Speaker 5: I'm sure asst his numbers have frustrated Calvin a little bit,
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Speaker 5: but I think it shows you how hard he is
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Speaker 5: to cover and how legitimately dangerous he is. I think
15:29
Speaker 5: he's drawn nine penalties. I think the number is over
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Speaker 5: one hundred yards. That's not nothing, and a couple of
15:34
Speaker 5: those penalties have changed the game. So I still think
15:38
Speaker 5: he matters in this offense.
15:40
Speaker 4: He won't be the quote focus. They're not going to
15:44
Speaker 4: feed him the ball. I just don't.
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Speaker 5: I got a lot of emails this week why is
15:49
Speaker 5: any more involved? And I just don't think this offense
15:52
Speaker 5: right now wants to overly feed him. Well, I remember
15:54
Speaker 5: how clunky had felt early in the season when they
15:56
Speaker 5: were trying to do that. I think they want to
15:58
Speaker 5: have it still happen or organically for him. I think
16:01
Speaker 5: they will take some deep shots. They talked about that.
16:03
Speaker 5: If you're gonna take deep shots, it's a Calvin Ridley
16:06
Speaker 5: type game.
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Speaker 4: So it gets some and I think you're gonna see.
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Speaker 5: Him come out and throw five straight past the can't
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Speaker 5: really in the game. He might make the difference. I
16:13
Speaker 5: thought he would make a big difference last week. I
16:15
Speaker 5: was surprised that he was not a big time factor.
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Speaker 5: I think the game circumstance didn't allow it.
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Speaker 4: They didn't get in the red zone very much. But
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Speaker 4: I think he.
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Speaker 5: I think this is the game where he starts to
16:28
Speaker 5: sort of move in that direction. I think after nine games,
16:31
Speaker 5: you're gonna feel that chemistry sort of come together.
16:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I talked to some folks in Atlanta
16:35
Speaker 2: who they said that he was always most successful when
16:38
Speaker 2: he was in motion, that he wasn't a static receiver,
16:41
Speaker 2: and a lot of times you see him but the
16:42
Speaker 2: line of scrim is just jumping, and of course he's
16:44
Speaker 2: being pressed because he's Calvin Ridley. I wouldn't be surprised
16:48
Speaker 2: if they didn't try to get him in motion more
16:50
Speaker 2: to get him moving, because when you look at the
16:52
Speaker 2: big explosive plays that he's been capable of in his career,
16:55
Speaker 2: a lot of those have him.
16:57
Speaker 1: Moving and we haven't seen much of that yet. No,
16:59
Speaker 1: not yet, So definitely an option. I went with Travis
17:02
Speaker 1: etn because I think he will get back in the
17:05
Speaker 1: end zone. Of course, the team in general didn't get
17:06
Speaker 1: in the end zone in their last game, but I
17:08
Speaker 1: think Travis is when we've seen the offense do well.
17:10
Speaker 1: It's when Travis has been doing well. He won't take
17:13
Speaker 1: over the game. I don't think he's gonna have three touchdowns,
17:15
Speaker 1: but I think he will get back in the end zone,
17:17
Speaker 1: get things moving a little bit, and he might be
17:19
Speaker 1: kind of the key to help open things up on offense.
17:22
Speaker 1: We saw him get that receiving touchdown a couple of
17:25
Speaker 1: games ago, and I think that's something that they haven't
17:28
Speaker 1: utilized a ton of either, And that might be something
17:30
Speaker 1: where if they show a couple different looks kind of
17:31
Speaker 1: Travis as a threat there. He has good hands, he
17:33
Speaker 1: can catch, so to kind of utilize him in that way,
17:36
Speaker 1: maybe something new, something different. I mean, you got to
17:38
Speaker 1: try something at this point, right.
17:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you sure do. I mean I also wouldn't
17:42
Speaker 2: be surprised to see them really try to force the
17:44
Speaker 2: ball into short yard situations with Travis. They have a
17:48
Speaker 2: lot of confidence, you know, I mean, doct Doug Peterson
17:50
Speaker 2: said when training camp again he can get his shoulders
17:52
Speaker 2: square to the line of scrimmage and be that you know,
17:55
Speaker 2: fifteen sixteen hundred yard back. Well, if he's going to
17:58
Speaker 2: be that over the course of his career, he's gonna
18:00
Speaker 2: have to be able to get third down to one,
18:02
Speaker 2: third down to two. And as I talk to people, John,
18:04
Speaker 2: there's nobody that exhibits any lack of confidence in Travis,
18:08
Speaker 2: and I just get the sense that they want to
18:11
Speaker 2: maybe force the issue with it.
18:12
Speaker 5: Yeah, he can definitely do that. They tried a little
18:15
Speaker 5: bit last week. I thought to sort of minimize his
18:18
Speaker 5: carries a little bit. I would say minimize, but you know,
18:21
Speaker 5: give the earnest and tank some carries. I still wonder
18:27
Speaker 5: how much they'll be able to stick with that as
18:29
Speaker 5: games get important and close, because Travis has been so
18:32
Speaker 5: good and it's important it's a good call cut, it's
18:36
Speaker 5: so important to be able to run the ball into
18:39
Speaker 5: the end zone. When they have felt like a good
18:42
Speaker 5: team this year, they've been doing that pretty well, and
18:44
Speaker 5: they beat Indy early in a stretch where they were
18:49
Speaker 5: winning finishing off the drives. Against Buffalo New Orleans, that's
18:54
Speaker 5: when they felt like they were flexing a little bit offensively.
18:56
Speaker 5: So last week was tough because you could really stick
19:00
Speaker 5: with it. But I think as when games are closed,
19:04
Speaker 5: I think you're gonna stick with ETN and I'll begin
19:06
Speaker 5: a buntion he knows why are they running so much? That,
19:08
Speaker 5: you know, but I think they feel like they've got
19:11
Speaker 5: to stick with it even when it's gonna struggle, and
19:13
Speaker 5: I think it's thing's gonna struggle at times with some
19:17
Speaker 5: pops from him.
19:18
Speaker 1: All right, stay with us as we look ahead. We're
19:20
Speaker 1: gonna give you what we think the headlines will be
19:22
Speaker 1: on Monday. At the break. This Sunday's game against the
19:27
Speaker 1: Titans is going to be delivered by c S f
19:30
Speaker 1: CFX is how tomorrow moves. Not great at predicting the future,
19:44
Speaker 1: but we are going to try today as we do
19:47
Speaker 1: tomorrow's headlines today. So Ryan, when do you think the
19:50
Speaker 1: front page is gonna say on Monday.
19:52
Speaker 2: Well, if if I was the headline rider, I think
19:54
Speaker 2: you would say something like tightened up because the Jaguars
19:56
Speaker 2: have been too loose with the football. The great thing
19:59
Speaker 2: about the T ANDSS is that they play fundamental football.
20:02
Speaker 2: They really do the little things well, which requires you
20:05
Speaker 2: to do the little things well. But I don't think
20:07
Speaker 2: there's anything more important heading into the stretch run of
20:09
Speaker 2: the season than doing the little things well. I mean,
20:13
Speaker 2: it's great to get the over the top passes to
20:14
Speaker 2: Calvin Ridley, but if you go convert on third down
20:17
Speaker 2: and two or third down and three, you're not gonna
20:19
Speaker 2: stay on the field. If you don't convert in the
20:21
Speaker 2: red zone right and get the touchdowns step of the
20:23
Speaker 2: field goals, you're not gonna win the games against the
20:25
Speaker 2: Bengals and the Ravens late in the year when seeding
20:28
Speaker 2: is going to be so important. So a game against
20:30
Speaker 2: the Titans requires you to play good, sound, fundamental football,
20:35
Speaker 2: and I think they'll be tightened up and ready to
20:37
Speaker 2: go for the stretch run.
20:38
Speaker 1: John, you go back to newspaper days, what do you
20:40
Speaker 1: get for the headline?
20:41
Speaker 3: See?
20:42
Speaker 4: I went with back where they belong?
20:44
Speaker 5: That you know they're already in first place, so I
20:48
Speaker 5: guess it's still where they belong. I say, think they're
20:51
Speaker 5: the best team in the division. I think when you're
20:53
Speaker 5: six and three, you've earned that status. Mainly, I think
20:58
Speaker 5: this game and they play well, and I think they'll
21:01
Speaker 5: play well. I think fans will say, Okay, well, it's okay,
21:04
Speaker 5: we're seven and three. We've got a good stretch run
21:06
Speaker 5: coming up in front of us.
21:07
Speaker 4: There's still hope.
21:09
Speaker 5: I think maybe this game will put some perspective back
21:12
Speaker 5: in the conversation.
21:12
Speaker 2: And you know that's really important because they may not
21:16
Speaker 2: look elite, right, I mean, they may not look like
21:19
Speaker 2: the San Francisco forty nine ers or the Kansas City Chiefs,
21:22
Speaker 2: but they're still a really good football team. And that's
21:24
Speaker 2: what I think people have lost. You you get beat
21:26
Speaker 2: like that, John, you walk out of here and going, man,
21:28
Speaker 2: they are not what I thought they were. And you
21:30
Speaker 2: immediately go from here to hear in your people's minds
21:32
Speaker 2: and the opportunity to get back right tightened up, back
21:36
Speaker 2: where you belong to start playing good football again reminds people. Yeah,
21:39
Speaker 2: I mean they're not here. They may not be here,
21:42
Speaker 2: but they're like here. This is what this week is about.
21:44
Speaker 5: It's gonna sound like a coach cliche, but teams are
21:47
Speaker 5: different throughout the course of the year. The Patriots Flints
21:50
Speaker 5: lost the Buffalo bill is thirty one nothing to win
21:52
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl and they.
21:53
Speaker 4: Lost in the opener.
21:54
Speaker 5: So you can get most coaches want to get to
21:59
Speaker 5: mid November and then try to stay healthy, improve, start peaking,
22:04
Speaker 5: start playing.
22:04
Speaker 4: Well after this. So six and three, you win this year,
22:08
Speaker 4: seven and three and you have seven left. You have
22:10
Speaker 4: it all out in front of you. If you.
22:14
Speaker 5: Improve like you think if you started hitting some chemistry
22:16
Speaker 5: like you think, and you go on a run, there
22:18
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, that seven and three start gets
22:20
Speaker 5: here at twelve and five and you and you forget
22:22
Speaker 5: all about this. They were two and six last year. Yeah,
22:27
Speaker 5: improvement is possible in the NFL. They have to improve,
22:30
Speaker 5: but you need to win this to put yourself in
22:32
Speaker 5: a position.
22:33
Speaker 4: To do that.
22:33
Speaker 1: I think it's definitely a stepping stone game in my
22:35
Speaker 1: mind as well, because I think I went when defense dominates,
22:38
Speaker 1: because if the team is going to be good this year,
22:40
Speaker 1: thought it was going to be offense, it's the defense.
22:42
Speaker 1: So they need to go out there, take care of
22:44
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, make him not a huge factor, and also
22:47
Speaker 1: take advantage of the rooky quarterback. Will Levice had those
22:49
Speaker 1: four touchdowns in his first game. He hasn't looked great
22:51
Speaker 1: after that. He's someone you can rattle.
22:53
Speaker 4: He's someone you.
22:53
Speaker 1: Can get to, you know, force a couple of interceptions,
22:56
Speaker 1: bad throws, and give your offense the ball back. Because
23:00
Speaker 1: because we know they need time to figure things out,
23:02
Speaker 1: I think this is a good game for them to
23:04
Speaker 1: kind of get in the end zone, get a win,
23:06
Speaker 1: kind of work on it, and then Houston will be
23:08
Speaker 1: a huge matchup that we're looking at.
23:09
Speaker 2: You know, Henry Is he's been a story obviously because
23:13
Speaker 2: he's from here and he's a great player. Last year
23:15
Speaker 2: he had fifty carries fifty one carries and just over
23:18
Speaker 2: two hundred yards in two games. And a guy grabbed
23:20
Speaker 2: me the other day, go, that's your four yards per carry. Well,
23:22
Speaker 2: he had one fifty yard run, right, So then he
23:25
Speaker 2: had fifty carries for one hundred and fifty yards, which
23:28
Speaker 2: is three yards. So if you can just keep him
23:31
Speaker 2: from getting that big run where he hits the scene downfield,
23:35
Speaker 2: you can limit him and the hammer that he can
23:38
Speaker 2: be at your defense. I mean, trust me, we were
23:41
Speaker 2: all still traumatized by the ninety nine yard run on
23:44
Speaker 2: Thursday Night Football back in twenty nineteen. He's not that
23:47
Speaker 2: guy anymore, but if you give him a crase and
23:49
Speaker 2: let him do fifty on you, it's gonna make you
23:51
Speaker 2: look bad.
23:53
Speaker 1: Let's hope they keep him contented, all right. Coming up
23:55
Speaker 1: after the break, we're gonna have a little more about
23:57
Speaker 1: the game on Sunday and we'll be right back. Jags fans,
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Speaker 1: So we're back here at Everybank Stadium this week. It's
24:17
Speaker 1: actually the Salute for Service games, so it's gonna be great.
24:19
Speaker 1: We'll have tons of veterans, military members their families.
24:22
Speaker 4: Out there today.
24:22
Speaker 1: A lot of cool stuff is planned for that and
24:25
Speaker 1: hopefully a good outcome on the field as well, because
24:27
Speaker 1: we haven't seen a lot of great home games so.
24:29
Speaker 2: Far this year. No, and that has been a point
24:32
Speaker 2: of contention all week long. You know, in every press conference,
24:36
Speaker 2: you're in the locker room, Hey, what's the matter at home?
24:38
Speaker 2: And nobody has an answer for it. I don't know
24:40
Speaker 2: that anything's the matter at home? They just last week
24:44
Speaker 2: it was San Francisco. Yeah, great, done, hard to explain that.
24:47
Speaker 2: The Houston gag still looking for you know, what went
24:49
Speaker 2: wrong there because that was supposedly a good week of
24:52
Speaker 2: practice off the lows to Kansas City. I don't know
24:54
Speaker 2: about the home thing. Here's what I know, you know,
24:56
Speaker 2: going all the way back to the first game they
24:57
Speaker 2: ever played in this stadium in the regular season against
24:59
Speaker 2: the then Houston Boilers, this franchise now in Tennessee has
25:04
Speaker 2: had the upper hand. I think it's thirty three and
25:06
Speaker 2: twenty three the number in terms of the regular season.
25:12
Speaker 2: So Jaguars haven't won three in a row against the
25:14
Speaker 2: Titans since two thousand and five, two thousand and six.
25:17
Speaker 2: It's been a long time.
25:19
Speaker 1: Time to start something, y Yeah, time.
25:20
Speaker 2: To start well again. My theme has been if this
25:23
Speaker 2: is going to be your division, if you believe you're
25:26
Speaker 2: the big dog in the division. You got young quarterbacks.
25:30
Speaker 2: You have a young quarterback, but you've got young quarterbacks
25:32
Speaker 2: now that they're starting to lean on a little bit.
25:35
Speaker 2: This is a year to establish it, go get it.
25:37
Speaker 5: The next two weeks shape the narrative, but it starts
25:39
Speaker 5: this week. If you know when this week, then boyd,
25:43
Speaker 5: does Houston look like? You know, yeah, yeah, you're hardly.
25:47
Speaker 4: Thinking about Houston at that point because you're worried about
25:49
Speaker 4: what's going on here.
25:50
Speaker 2: So and much credit to C. J. Stroud, I mean,
25:53
Speaker 2: and Demigo Ryans. I mean, if he's the coach of
25:55
Speaker 2: the year right now in the NFL, that's not a
25:57
Speaker 2: great roster. I mean, they're just getting started with their rebuild.
26:00
Speaker 2: But the quarterback is a revelation and the coach has
26:04
Speaker 2: them playing really well. So that's for next week's shows.
26:06
Speaker 2: We'll have a lot to talk about. But if you
26:08
Speaker 2: get through this one the way that you should, will
26:10
Speaker 2: you set up a big game next week?
26:12
Speaker 1: All right, it's gonna be a good one. We hope
26:14
Speaker 1: you all enjoy the game on Sunday. We'll be right
26:16
Speaker 1: back here on jagxam to go over everything for you.
26:17
Speaker 1: On Monday morning,