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True Crime Documentary - He Faked Madness in Court： How He Covered Up His Wife's Murder · The Evolution of Evil - True Crime Stories

• 0:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: What area?
• 0:19
  Speaker 3: Parking.
• 0:46
  Speaker 2: Looks like he's collapsed or had a seizure or something.
• 0:51
  Speaker 2: Or he's just drunk. What's the telephone number you're calling from?
• 0:56
  Speaker 2: I haven't called up in the car, though, yet. I've
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: got to get my car down the parking lot. All right,
• 1:04
  Speaker 2: don't worry about that.
• 1:05
  Speaker 3: What's the telephone number you're calling from?
• 1:08
  Speaker 4: Hello?
• 1:13
  Speaker 5: Hi.
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  Speaker 6: Hello.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, the ambulance, that is. All the cars are right there.
• 1:25
  Speaker 2: Can you confirm the location?
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  Speaker 7: Oh, excuse me right now.
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  Speaker 8: Um.
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  Speaker 10: Where was it that they were outside of?
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  Speaker 2: Uh, Copper Street. What's your number? I don't know, I just,
• 1:42
  Speaker 2: I didn't look.
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  Speaker 10: You've had a lot of stuff on before.
• 1:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I've got a lot of stuff on. Do
• 1:56
  Speaker 2: you know if he was awake?
• 1:58
  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know if he was breathing? No, I don't know.
• 2:20
  Speaker 4: I'm Anthony Neil.
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  Speaker 11: I was the first clinician on scene at Cook Street
• 2:23
  Speaker 11: for the London Ambulance Service. I was driving around the estate.
• 2:31
  Speaker 11: There was lots of parked cars, but there was no
• 2:34
  Speaker 11: one sort of wandering about.
• 2:36
  Speaker 1: It was deserted. I called back my control.
• 2:40
  Speaker 11: So that they can call back the person that called
• 2:42
  Speaker 11: this in to get a better location.
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  Speaker 6: Hello?
• 2:47
  Speaker 2: Hi, sorry, it's the afternoon service. Sorry to bother you again.
• 2:52
  Speaker 2: It was definitely Cook Street that the patient was on.
• 2:56
  Speaker 4: Yes, definitely.
• 2:57
  Speaker 2: Yes, I'll pass them down and see if there's Cook Street. OK,
• 3:01
  Speaker 2: no worries, no worries. Just wanted to be sure. Thank
• 3:03
  Speaker 2: you for your help. Sorry to bother you again.
• 3:13
  Speaker 11: Outside of the second block of flats appeared to me
• 3:17
  Speaker 11: what looked like some bin bags against the entrance. But
• 3:20
  Speaker 11: as I approached closer, I could see that it was
• 3:23
  Speaker 11: in fact a person. I noticed he was sat cross-legged
• 3:30
  Speaker 11: in a sat upright position, leaning against the wall. I
• 3:34
  Speaker 11: couldn't see his face because he had a hoodie and
• 3:37
  Speaker 11: that was obscuring any vision. As soon as I saw
• 3:40
  Speaker 11: his face, I knew he was deceased. It automatically touched him.
• 3:44
  Speaker 11: You're looking for a pulse. But I could feel the
• 3:46
  Speaker 11: rigor mortis in his jaw. And then looking at his eyes,
• 3:50
  Speaker 11: they were lifeless. He'd been dead for a good few hours.
• 3:55
  Speaker 11: Then I stepped back because I thought, this is not right.
• 3:58
  Speaker 11: This is suspicious. So I called it in to the
• 4:01
  Speaker 11: police to preserve a potential crime scene.
• 4:16
  Speaker 3: When I finished work that morning, one of my colleagues
• 4:19
  Speaker 3: dropped me off and I got out of the car,
• 4:21
  Speaker 3: walked across the road. There was police everywhere. My name's
• 4:26
  Speaker 3: Glen and I live in Barking. For the life of
• 4:31
  Speaker 3: me now, I'm a cheerful guy. I said, who's died?
• 4:40
  Speaker 3: And the officer asked me where I was going.
• 4:44
  Speaker 4: I said, well.
• 4:45
  Speaker 3: I'm staying at Cook Street. He took me over to
• 4:51
  Speaker 3: another officer and asked me if I knew a Stephen Paul.
• 4:56
  Speaker 3: I said, Jesse's my flatmate. I said, I'm standing on
• 4:58
  Speaker 3: the sofa. Do you know where he is? I said,
• 5:03
  Speaker 3: probably in bed. I said, I don't know. I've just
• 5:05
  Speaker 3: finished work. I said, you've just seen me get out
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  Speaker 3: of the car.
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  Speaker 4: He said, OK.
• 5:10
  Speaker 3: He said, could you let us into the property?
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  Speaker 12: Looking through the case notes, Stephen Port's name came up
• 5:20
  Speaker 12: quite quickly because he made that initial 999 call. My
• 5:26
  Speaker 12: name is Palm Sandhu. I'm a former chief superintendent from
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  Speaker 12: the Metropolitan Police. On the initial call, Stephen Port said
• 5:35
  Speaker 12: he was in a car and he was driving past and.
• 5:38
  Speaker 13: He saw a young man and he believed he was
• 5:40
  Speaker 13: having a seizure.
• 5:40
  Speaker 2: Looks like he's collapsed or had a seizure or something.
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  Speaker 12: The call was then traced back to an address and
• 5:58
  Speaker 12: a vehicle in that locality.
• 6:00
  Speaker 13: And that's why Stephen Port was identified.
• 6:07
  Speaker 4: Stephen was in bed. He was sound asleep.
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  Speaker 3: So I had to wake him up and told him
• 6:11
  Speaker 3: that the police were at the front door. He was
• 6:17
  Speaker 3: being interviewed. I heard Stephen say he came home from
• 6:20
  Speaker 3: work that night and see the young gentleman outside. He
• 6:26
  Speaker 3: slapped him around the face a couple of times to
• 6:28
  Speaker 3: try and arouse him, but couldn't, so he called 999.
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  Speaker 14: I'm Sarah Sack, Anthony Walgate's mother. Anthony was very... loud,
• 6:47
  Speaker 14: very funny, and a very good friend. If he was
• 6:52
  Speaker 14: your friend, he'd be your friend for life. He studied
• 6:57
  Speaker 14: fashion and design at college, got himself a place at London,
• 7:00
  Speaker 14: at the college there, and moved down. And he absolutely
• 7:05
  Speaker 14: loved every minute of being there. The other time he
• 7:08
  Speaker 14: came back to Hull, he used to say we were
• 7:10
  Speaker 14: a sleepy hollow. He said, I don't know, you can
• 7:12
  Speaker 14: barely live in here. Everybody's so slow, it's so quiet.
• 7:16
  Speaker 14: And I don't think he'd have ever left London. I
• 7:28
  Speaker 14: went to Turkey on holiday. We were getting ready to
• 7:30
  Speaker 14: go out on our last night. And I turned my
• 7:34
  Speaker 14: phone back on. There was 50-odd missed calls. There was texts.
• 7:38
  Speaker 14: There was hundreds and hundreds of messages coming through that
• 7:42
  Speaker 14: you need to ring home. You know, something's happened. So
• 7:46
  Speaker 14: I called my son and he had to tell me
• 7:49
  Speaker 14: over the phone Anthony had been found dead.
• 8:05
  Speaker 11: He was a young person and young people don't just die.
• 8:08
  Speaker 11: The only sort of injuries apparent was he had blood
• 8:13
  Speaker 11: around his mouth which I thought maybe consistent with a seizure,
• 8:18
  Speaker 11: but why would he be sat up? If it was
• 8:20
  Speaker 11: an assault, he wouldn't be sat up. If they were
• 8:23
  Speaker 11: drunk and aspirated on their vomit, they wouldn't be sat up.
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  Speaker 11: So the positioning where he was, and because he'd been
• 8:30
  Speaker 11: there for a few hours, yeah, it just didn't add up.
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  Speaker 15: Anthony's body had his midriff exposed. It showed signs of
• 8:39
  Speaker 15: being dragged. He was bruising the armpits from the dragging.
• 8:44
  Speaker 15: I'm Sebastian Murphy Bates. I was a reporter at the
• 8:47
  Speaker 15: Barking and Dagenham Post. His underwear was on inside out
• 8:53
  Speaker 15: and back to front. His trouser zip was open. There's
• 8:57
  Speaker 15: just so many things about it that if you explain
• 9:02
  Speaker 15: that to a normal person who's not a police officer,
• 9:07
  Speaker 15: they would say, well, that's a bit weird. It's like
• 9:09
  Speaker 15: someone's dressed him in a rush or in a panic
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  Speaker 15: and then dumped the body.
• 9:16
  Speaker 14: I arrived back in the UK at about 7 o'clock
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  Speaker 14: the next morning. The first call I made was to
• 9:21
  Speaker 14: DS O'Donnell and I'd said, what's happened? And he just said,
• 9:27
  Speaker 14: at the moment, we don't know anything. Anthony was found
• 9:30
  Speaker 14: dead in the street. So I said, well, you know,
• 9:32
  Speaker 14: was he stabbed, shot, beaten?
• 9:34
  Speaker 6: What?
• 9:34
  Speaker 4: No, nothing.
• 9:35
  Speaker 14: There was not a mark on him and we don't
• 9:38
  Speaker 14: know why. Nothing's come up on the post-mortem. What we're
• 9:42
  Speaker 14: going to do is send off a further tox screen
• 9:45
  Speaker 14: on it but it could take a few weeks. So
• 9:50
  Speaker 14: I said to him straight away then, something's not right.
• 9:53
  Speaker 14: I said, I'm telling you, if he hasn't been attacked,
• 9:56
  Speaker 14: something's not right here.
• 9:57
  Speaker 4: Any year.
• 10:00
  Speaker 11: Unexplained death with a young adult, you would look at
• 10:04
  Speaker 11: maybe being a drug overdose. So when they did mention,
• 10:07
  Speaker 11: do you think it's a drug overdose? I think I
• 10:09
  Speaker 11: initially said, no, because of the way he was positioned.
• 10:13
  Speaker 11: If he was laying on the floor, then yes, of course.
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  Speaker 11: I said, I don't know how he's died because it's
• 10:18
  Speaker 11: not obvious. I knew something wasn't right and I told
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  Speaker 11: the police that.
• 10:26
  Speaker 3: I said to Stephen, it's a shame about that young
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  Speaker 3: man outside. It's not very often someone on your own
• 10:33
  Speaker 3: doorstep is found now. Yes, it is a crying shame.
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  Speaker 3: It went, I hope they find whoever's responsible or if
• 10:42
  Speaker 3: he's taken anything, I hope they find out what's happened
• 10:45
  Speaker 3: to him.
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  Speaker 10: I'm Ryan Edwards, and I was Stephen Port's friend and neighbour.
• 11:01
  Speaker 10: When I first moved into the area, it was coming
• 11:03
  Speaker 10: up to the summer, so this tree that you can
• 11:07
  Speaker 10: see wasn't as fully grown when I was here originally
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  Speaker 10: in 2005, and I could see Stephen's ground floor flat
• 11:13
  Speaker 10: patio area. When I was walking past one day and
• 11:16
  Speaker 10: Stephen was out there tending to his plants, I took
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  Speaker 10: the opportunity to introduce myself.
• 11:21
  Speaker 4: And.
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  Speaker 10: I think very quickly we established that we were both gay.
• 11:24
  Speaker 10: I can't quite remember how that conversation went, but I said, oh,
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  Speaker 10: it'd be nice to catch up sometime. And it sort
• 11:30
  Speaker 10: of just, it just grew quite organically, really.
• 11:35
  Speaker 3: When he first came in, I see this guy there
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  Speaker 3: that's quite muscly, quite tall. And me being only five
• 11:43
  Speaker 3: foot four, five foot five, I was standing next to
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  Speaker 3: this like six foot six man. I was like, you
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  Speaker 3: all right?
• 11:50
  Speaker 7: How are you?
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  Speaker 3: But it was like standing next to a friendly giant.
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  Speaker 16: He had a very distinctive walk, actually.
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  Speaker 10: It was a slightly awkward gait, and I quickly kind
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  Speaker 10: of colloquially nicknamed him with my other friends as almost
• 12:08
  Speaker 10: like the BFG, the big friendly giant, because he was
• 12:11
  Speaker 10: so large, but so softly spoken.
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  Speaker 3: You'd have to make conversation with him, otherwise... You'd get
• 12:21
  Speaker 3: more conversation out of a wall than you would actually Stephen.
• 12:26
  Speaker 3: He wasn't one to socialise. He'd keep himself to himself.
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  Speaker 10: I was thinking he might be a possible wingman for me.
• 12:42
  Speaker 10: in terms of going out and chatting to guys. And unfortunately,
• 12:45
  Speaker 10: Stephen was very ill at ease in that environment. It's
• 12:49
  Speaker 10: almost like it was the first time he'd ever walked
• 12:51
  Speaker 10: into a gay bar. He would sort of clam up.
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  Speaker 10: And it was to the point of being sort of
• 12:57
  Speaker 10: excruciating because he would almost turn away or look at
• 13:01
  Speaker 10: his phone.
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: I felt bordering on rude.
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  Speaker 10: So I quickly realised, actually, this type of socialising is
• 13:08
  Speaker 10: not going to work for me and Stephen. So perhaps...
• 13:11
  Speaker 10: Limiting it to a coffee at his or a coffee
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  Speaker 10: at mine is probably about as adventurous as we can be.
• 13:20
  Speaker 3: Steven wanted always, always to look good.
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  Speaker 10: He would often change his hairstyle and he'd be like, oh, yeah, maybe,
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  Speaker 10: you know, I like to look good for my boys.
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  Speaker 3: He'd pose in the mirror and I caught him and
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: I was like, what are you doing? He went, I'm posing,
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  Speaker 3: and he's like this, and I went, what are you doing?
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know you'd do that. I went, you look fine.
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  Speaker 4: I went, leave off.
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  Speaker 3: He was very vain.
• 13:48
  Speaker 10: Stephen, I presume, had a very high sexual drive. He
• 13:51
  Speaker 10: was certainly meeting guys all the time, and they were
• 13:55
  Speaker 10: definitely quite a set type. So he would often say
• 13:59
  Speaker 10: to me, hey, neighbour, come round and meet my new boy,
• 14:02
  Speaker 10: my new guy. He would often refer to them as boys,
• 14:04
  Speaker 10: and they were quite young. They were often sort of 19, 20,
• 14:06
  Speaker 10: often like a twink, So they were sort of quite
• 14:10
  Speaker 10: slim in Gabe Holland's, you know, non-hairy type of thing.
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  Speaker 10: So that definitely seemed to be Stephen's type.
• 14:32
  Speaker 15: Anthony Walgate was skint, like many students. especially if you're
• 14:37
  Speaker 15: moving from the north to London. It is a big
• 14:40
  Speaker 15: culture shock and everything's a lot more expensive. He had
• 14:44
  Speaker 15: started working occasionally as an escort.
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  Speaker 14: If he was going to meet somebody, he would always
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  Speaker 14: tell his friends.
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  Speaker 1: HE MUMBLES.
• 15:06
  Speaker 14: He would tell them where he was going, who he
• 15:07
  Speaker 14: was meeting, and he was just so cautious.
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  Speaker 15: He also showed his friend a picture of the profile
• 15:20
  Speaker 15: from the website that they had used to meet. He
• 15:24
  Speaker 15: went there expecting a lot of money, but he felt
• 15:28
  Speaker 15: that it was important to take precautions.
• 15:48
  Speaker 14: I was so sure that this was a murder. I
• 15:52
  Speaker 14: just knew something was wrong. And so did his best friends.
• 15:56
  Speaker 14: We constantly would say to the police, I mean, the
• 15:59
  Speaker 14: police at one point told his best friend, China, to
• 16:01
  Speaker 14: stop asking questions that you weren't getting answers to. And
• 16:04
  Speaker 14: that was a couple of days after Anthony had died.
• 16:06
  Speaker 14: So China's told you who he was meeting, given the name,
• 16:10
  Speaker 14: the address and everything.
• 16:12
  Speaker 17: Nope.
• 16:14
  Speaker 14: I found this drug sitting in Anthony's bag. The bottle
• 16:17
  Speaker 14: of they just automatically assumed it was Anthony's. It was GHB.
• 16:23
  Speaker 14: So after finding this out, it was obvious, just a
• 16:28
  Speaker 14: young gay lad, into chem sex, and that's how they
• 16:33
  Speaker 14: saw it. It was quite clear to us from day one,
• 16:37
  Speaker 14: it was an open and shut case to them, and
• 16:39
  Speaker 14: they would not entertain any other idea.
• 16:44
  Speaker 12: As soon as you start mentioning those words, you know, chemsex, gay,
• 16:49
  Speaker 12: sexual activity. There are certain labels that are used to
• 16:53
  Speaker 12: stereotype behaviors and people, and it does have an influence
• 16:57
  Speaker 12: in how police treat certain investigations. That is the cold,
• 17:01
  Speaker 12: hard truth about it.
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  Speaker 18: There were just some really basic errors made, and it
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  Speaker 18: just highlights this issue that, honestly, we see quite regularly.
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  Speaker 18: where there are inexperienced police officers going out, making assumptions,
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  Speaker 18: and then looking for evidence to support those assumptions, in
• 17:22
  Speaker 18: this case being that it was an overdose, despite the
• 17:25
  Speaker 18: fact that there was a lot of evidence that would
• 17:27
  Speaker 18: imply otherwise.
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  Speaker 19: I am Dr Onodoro Townsend, and I am a criminologist.
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  Speaker 18: Anthony had actually showed a friend a picture of the
• 17:38
  Speaker 18: person he was going to meet, This same friend goes
• 17:41
  Speaker 18: to the police. She's able to give a description of
• 17:43
  Speaker 18: the person that he's meeting. And then when shown a
• 17:45
  Speaker 18: picture of Stephen Port, identifies him as the person that
• 17:49
  Speaker 18: Anthony was going to meet.
• 17:52
  Speaker 15: Port used an alias when he hired Anthony.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: He called himself Joe Dean.
• 17:58
  Speaker 15: He's asked about his involvement with Anthony and says, I
• 18:02
  Speaker 15: hired him as an escort. I panicked when I realized
• 18:06
  Speaker 15: that he was dead. He admits that he moved the
• 18:09
  Speaker 15: body outside. Now, the police seem to believe pretty quickly
• 18:14
  Speaker 15: that he lied to them because he freaked out because
• 18:17
  Speaker 15: there was a dead body in his flat.
• 18:21
  Speaker 14: Ports was the last person to see Anthony and it
• 18:24
  Speaker 14: just seemed to be that everything Ports ever said to
• 18:27
  Speaker 14: any of the police, they totally and utterly believed.
• 18:37
  Speaker 18: Within the first few interactions he's had with the police,
• 18:40
  Speaker 18: he's created three different narratives. At first, he was walking
• 18:43
  Speaker 18: past the body. Then, actually, no, he'd found the body
• 18:47
  Speaker 18: and he'd moved it because it was blocking his entrance
• 18:49
  Speaker 18: to the flat. Then his story shifts once again and
• 18:52
  Speaker 18: he says, no, actually, I was having sex with Anthony
• 18:56
  Speaker 18: and he overdosed.
• 19:00
  Speaker 15: He said that he would pay Anthony 800 pounds to
• 19:04
  Speaker 15: stay for the night. If you're a skint student and
• 19:07
  Speaker 15: you're thinking, it's one night, it's 800 quid, the impression
• 19:12
  Speaker 15: that would be in my mind at least is I'm
• 19:15
  Speaker 15: going meeting somebody who can afford to splash 800 quid
• 19:19
  Speaker 15: on one night with me. That's a successful person. That's
• 19:23
  Speaker 15: somebody who can afford to do that.
• 19:28
  Speaker 14: I did have a lot of questions and I would
• 19:30
  Speaker 14: say to the police, right, so did he have 800 pounds?
• 19:34
  Speaker 14: So I said, no. It was overdrawn at the bank.
• 19:37
  Speaker 14: He didn't have any money. So I said, right. So
• 19:41
  Speaker 14: you believed him?
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, of course.
• 19:44
  Speaker 14: So then he was saying that Ports had said Anthony
• 19:47
  Speaker 14: had taken this drug. and was sick. So he'd gone
• 19:52
  Speaker 14: back to the bathroom and taken some more. And I
• 19:55
  Speaker 14: knew this was wrong. Anthony had this phobia about being
• 19:58
  Speaker 14: sick from being a small child. And I said, if
• 20:01
  Speaker 14: Anthony's sick, he would have run. Something's not right.
• 20:06
  Speaker 18: What Port is doing is he's going along with the
• 20:09
  Speaker 18: fact that the police are already.
• 20:10
  Speaker 19: Considering this as non-suspicious.
• 20:12
  Speaker 18: Now they just need Port's evidence to match what they
• 20:15
  Speaker 18: think probably happened. And so they're actually giving him these
• 20:19
  Speaker 18: little tidbits of information. He's matching his stories, and they're
• 20:22
  Speaker 18: not questioning the fact that he's changing these stories, when
• 20:26
  Speaker 18: they absolutely should be.
• 20:28
  Speaker 19: It should be alarm bells ringing.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: I sent him photos of myself via WhatsApp, And my
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: home address, using a registered phone in my name. If
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: I'd really intended to harm him by drugging him, I
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: wouldn't have been that silly.
• 20:45
  Speaker 19: He didn't send him his address. He didn't.
• 20:47
  Speaker 18: He did send him a false address. He made himself younger.
• 20:51
  Speaker 18: He changed his name. Whatever reason that might have been for.
• 20:55
  Speaker 18: And you could look at that and think maybe he's
• 20:57
  Speaker 18: just being cautious. But the other thing is that you
• 20:59
  Speaker 18: could look at it and say, was Port, from that
• 21:03
  Speaker 18: moment on... aware that there could be a risk posed
• 21:07
  Speaker 18: to Anthony by him coming to Port's property.
• 21:13
  Speaker 15: As far as Barking and Dagenham Police were concerned, there
• 21:17
  Speaker 15: was nothing suspicious about the circumstances of Anthony's death. They
• 21:23
  Speaker 15: bought the idea that he had taken drugs of his
• 21:26
  Speaker 15: own volition, he'd taken too much and he had died
• 21:29
  Speaker 15: as a result.
• 21:37
  Speaker 14: I found it really, really frustrating because if the police
• 21:40
  Speaker 14: aren't helping you, what are you supposed to do? You know,
• 21:43
  Speaker 14: who do you turn to? I did actually turn to
• 21:45
  Speaker 14: my MP at one point and said to him, you know,
• 21:48
  Speaker 14: something's wrong, my son was murdered and they won't do anything.
• 21:55
  Speaker 20: My name's Carl Turner, I'm the Labour MP for East Hull.
• 22:01
  Speaker 20: From very early, Sarah was saying it was homophobia. She
• 22:06
  Speaker 20: was convinced the Met were not doing what they ought
• 22:08
  Speaker 20: to be doing because the lad was gay. I thought
• 22:12
  Speaker 20: that was just not likely. But she thought she was right,
• 22:17
  Speaker 20: and she constantly raised the issue. We made representations to
• 22:22
  Speaker 20: the Met, but the responses were just, there's nothing to see,
• 22:25
  Speaker 20: everything's fine.
• 22:29
  Speaker 14: Every time, there's nothing to investigate. You know, at least
• 22:33
  Speaker 14: try and investigate it.
• 22:39
  Speaker 12: When the toxicology results came back, they did show that
• 22:42
  Speaker 12: Anthony Walgate had a massive amount of GHB in his system,
• 22:46
  Speaker 12: and that is what caused his death. So that would
• 22:49
  Speaker 12: support the original theory that this was a gay young
• 22:52
  Speaker 12: man engaged in sexual activity.
• 22:56
  Speaker 13: And drug taking.
• 22:59
  Speaker 20: Sarah knew that he was adverse to drug taking. She
• 23:03
  Speaker 20: said he wouldn't take a paracetamol, and I believed her.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Did I believe?
• 23:08
  Speaker 20: That her son had been murdered. I didn't think she
• 23:11
  Speaker 20: was lying about that or that she jumped to a
• 23:13
  Speaker 20: conclusion that might not be right, but.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I didn't have a view.
• 23:18
  Speaker 20: I just thought the Met Police will be doing everything
• 23:22
  Speaker 20: that they need to do to ensure that the lad's
• 23:26
  Speaker 20: not been murdered.
• 23:37
  Speaker 18: What I think is really clear from looking at the
• 23:39
  Speaker 18: police investigation is a fundamental lack of understanding of the
• 23:43
  Speaker 18: LGBT plus community at the time.
• 23:46
  Speaker 21: I'm Duncan, and I am five years into my recovery
• 23:50
  Speaker 21: from a chemsex addiction. As soon as the hookup apps
• 23:54
  Speaker 21: came in, it was all GPS located.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: It became.
• 24:01
  Speaker 21: In my experience, it sort of became less about dating
• 24:04
  Speaker 21: and a lot more about just hooking up with somebody
• 24:08
  Speaker 21: for some casual sex.
• 24:12
  Speaker 22: There's clubs that you can go to, there's saunas we
• 24:15
  Speaker 22: can go to, there's apps that tell you where the
• 24:18
  Speaker 22: nearest person is. It's very easy for us to have
• 24:22
  Speaker 22: consensual hookups and we can do it on demand.
• 24:30
  Speaker 10: It was always a bit of a mystery to me
• 24:31
  Speaker 10: how Stephen was meeting so many guys. And yet the
• 24:35
  Speaker 10: Stephen that I knew was very socially awkward. I did
• 24:39
  Speaker 10: notice when I was off and round there for coffees,
• 24:41
  Speaker 10: he was always on a platform.
• 24:47
  Speaker 22: Stephen Port had a way of making you feel relaxed.
• 24:50
  Speaker 22: He had a soothing voice. He was quiet. He wasn't
• 24:54
  Speaker 22: in your face. We met through LadsLads. That's a website
• 24:58
  Speaker 22: that doesn't even exist anymore. And the idea was we
• 25:01
  Speaker 22: were going to have a threesome. I met him at
• 25:03
  Speaker 22: his place. He seemed really normal. He had his flat,
• 25:07
  Speaker 22: he had his car. He was just a normal guy.
• 25:11
  Speaker 22: And then we waited for his boyfriend to come home
• 25:13
  Speaker 22: and then try to get intimate. But it just felt
• 25:19
  Speaker 22: all wrong. It just felt really... When you don't gel,
• 25:23
  Speaker 22: you don't gel. In the end, I was like, look,
• 25:26
  Speaker 22: I'm tired, I'm going to go home. And that was
• 25:28
  Speaker 22: the first encounter.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: Stephen was often having other boys over and they would
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: call their friends. They'd all go in the bedroom together.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: I remember one night I was in the front room
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: and you could hear everything. It's not something that, you know,
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: I wanted to hear, really.
• 25:53
  Speaker 21: As.
• 25:54
  Speaker 10: The friendship wore on in the years. I noticed that
• 25:57
  Speaker 10: he became a little bit more serious, I guess you
• 26:01
  Speaker 10: could say. He started focusing more on discussions about men,
• 26:05
  Speaker 10: almost becoming a bit obsessed.
• 26:10
  Speaker 21: The apps can be quite addictive. I guess like any
• 26:13
  Speaker 21: apps on our phones, on social media apps, we can
• 26:15
  Speaker 21: just keep scrolling and scrolling. And then, of course, there's
• 26:18
  Speaker 21: online a lot of people taking drugs, and so if
• 26:22
  Speaker 21: there is that temptation there for, as there was for myself,
• 26:26
  Speaker 21: then that then starts to become a bit problematic because
• 26:29
  Speaker 21: then the two go together, sex and drugs.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: He would go out, come back about 40 minutes later,
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: and he'd go straight to the fridge and put something
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: in the fridge. So I looked up on the shelf, like,
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: you know, as I would, and there was... two little
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: blue bottles. He said they was medication. I asked him
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: if I can borrow some nail clippers one day and
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: he's leant over to his bedside table and opened his
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: drawer and there were seven little blue bottles and I
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: thought that's a lot of medication for.
• 27:14
  Speaker 21: It would be very unfair to say that the whole
• 27:16
  Speaker 21: gay community are involved in chemsex because not everybody takes
• 27:19
  Speaker 21: drugs or wants to take drugs and some people are
• 27:22
  Speaker 21: very clear about not wanting to.
• 27:25
  Speaker 22: I don't do chemsex. That's a no-go for me. Usually
• 27:32
  Speaker 22: you send a message, you ask for pictures, you get pictures,
• 27:36
  Speaker 22: there's kinks, there's fetishes, you discuss all that before you go,
• 27:41
  Speaker 22: you know, you kind of set some boundaries. and the
• 27:44
  Speaker 22: other person will either respect it and still invite you
• 27:47
  Speaker 22: or say, sorry, this ain't for me, and you kind
• 27:49
  Speaker 22: of move on to the next person and hope to
• 27:51
  Speaker 22: get lucky with them.
• 27:53
  Speaker 21: The main drugs that are used in chem sex are
• 27:55
  Speaker 21: crystal meth, which is also known as TINA, and T,
• 27:58
  Speaker 21: and GHB, also known as G.
• 28:05
  Speaker 19: I'm Dr.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Simon Elliott.
• 28:06
  Speaker 23: I'm a forensic toxicologist. One of the big problems with
• 28:12
  Speaker 23: GHB is the dose, dose make of the poison, i.e.,
• 28:17
  Speaker 23: it's the dose that matters.
• 28:18
  Speaker 10: I remember knocking on the door, and Stephen was normally
• 28:23
  Speaker 10: very quick to the door. On this occasion, he wasn't.
• 28:28
  Speaker 10: And eventually, he opened it, and he looked dreadful. He
• 28:31
  Speaker 10: looked like he'd barely slept. He led me through into
• 28:35
  Speaker 10: the kitchen. I immediately noticed there was a really large
• 28:40
  Speaker 10: container the coffee table and there were lots of bags
• 28:45
  Speaker 10: with white powder and lots of small vials of some
• 28:48
  Speaker 10: sort of liquid and the boyfriend comes through and the
• 28:51
  Speaker 10: boyfriend looks completely out of it definitely under the influence
• 28:57
  Speaker 10: of drugs it's not situation I'm comfortable in so I'm
• 29:00
  Speaker 10: thinking I want to get myself out of this situation really.
• 29:03
  Speaker 21: Quickly Chemsex isn't just sex and drugs together. Chemsex is
• 29:09
  Speaker 21: all of the other stuff that goes with it, the consequences,
• 29:12
  Speaker 21: the come-downs, all the stuff that happens in between a
• 29:18
  Speaker 21: binge and in the middle of a binge and walking
• 29:21
  Speaker 21: around streets at night trying to find your next hook-up
• 29:24
  Speaker 21: and sitting at bus stops pretending that you're waiting for
• 29:27
  Speaker 21: a bus but you're actually just looking and looking to
• 29:29
  Speaker 21: see where you can go next and get more drugs.
• 29:32
  Speaker 9: That's also chemsex.
• 29:36
  Speaker 23: At the hospital, we were having patients being admitted in
• 29:39
  Speaker 23: coma so very unconscious intoxicated by ghb then medical staff
• 29:45
  Speaker 23: would do their utmost to try and keep them breathing
• 29:47
  Speaker 23: and keep their heart going until the drug leaves their
• 29:50
  Speaker 23: body and then they subsequently wake up and then can
• 29:52
  Speaker 23: be discharged safely If people haven't got hospital care, if
• 29:57
  Speaker 23: the dose is too high, then that sleep can easily
• 30:00
  Speaker 23: turn into death.
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: My name's Emily Penning. I'm the Old Bailey correspondent for
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: the Press Association news agency. I knew nothing about the
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: chem sex scene. I knew next to nothing about GHB.
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: So for me, it was a huge learning curve. And also,
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: you know, I knew nothing at that stage about the victims.
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: Gabriel Kovari had come over from Slovakia and he wanted
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: to become an English teacher and he was very artistic.
• 30:44
  Speaker 15: Slovakia is a much more socially conservative place than London.
• 30:50
  Speaker 15: He came to London and he was hoping to find himself,
• 30:53
  Speaker 15: be more out, if we can put it that way,
• 30:55
  Speaker 15: than in his home country. He was so keen on
• 30:57
  Speaker 15: living in London that he was prepared to sleep rough
• 31:01
  Speaker 15: if it came to it.
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: He told his friends that he'd been offered a room
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: in a flat in Barking as a flatmate for free.
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: which among his friends raised a few eyebrows and they
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: were slightly concerned, but you know, he was determined.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 31:53
  Speaker 10: Around 2014, Stephen started changing his mobile number quite frequently,
• 31:57
  Speaker 10: which was a bit annoying, and I wondered why. It
• 32:01
  Speaker 10: was prior to one of these number changes, he messaged
• 32:04
  Speaker 10: me and said, you know, hey, neighbour.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: Come meet my new Slovakian twink flatmate tonight or tomorrow.
• 32:10
  Speaker 19: I say OK.
• 32:11
  Speaker 10: He replies to say.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: He's 22, quite cute, tall and skinny.
• 32:16
  Speaker 10: Then I message, I will pop later. Gabriel was different
• 32:20
  Speaker 10: to the... that Stephen would typically meet. He was intelligent, articulate,
• 32:25
  Speaker 10: he was driven, wanted to do things with his life,
• 32:28
  Speaker 10: really nice, very chatty. There was a little bit of
• 33:18
  Speaker 10: tension between him and Stephen. I quickly picked up, for example,
• 33:23
  Speaker 10: that Gabriel did not find Stephen attractive. Gabriel was quite twink-like,
• 33:29
  Speaker 10: so I presume that Stephen did find Gabriel attractive. But
• 33:32
  Speaker 10: I thought to myself, well, Stephen's going to be out
• 33:34
  Speaker 10: of luck there. At one point, Stephen went out to
• 33:39
  Speaker 10: go to the toilet. Gabriel leant over to me and
• 33:43
  Speaker 10: sort of almost in a hushed tone said to me,
• 33:46
  Speaker 10: Stephen is not the man you think he is, Ryan.
• 33:49
  Speaker 10: He is not a nice guy. He's not a nice person.
• 33:53
  Speaker 10: And before I could kind of elaborate on that, Stephen
• 33:57
  Speaker 10: came back into the room. I was a bit concerned
• 34:02
  Speaker 10: for Gabriel. I found him on Grindr and I messaged
• 34:05
  Speaker 10: him and I said, listen, if things are not working
• 34:07
  Speaker 10: out with Stephen, if you want to stay at mine
• 34:10
  Speaker 10: for a couple of nights, then you'd be more than welcome.
• 34:13
  Speaker 10: And he replied back to me to say, oh, yeah,
• 34:16
  Speaker 10: that'd be really, really good.
• 34:17
  Speaker 16: Thank you very much.
• 34:29
  Speaker 10: The next morning, I messaged Gabriel to say, what's the latest?
• 34:34
  Speaker 10: And I didn't get any response back from Gabriel at
• 34:36
  Speaker 10: that time. On the 26th of August, 2014, I get
• 34:41
  Speaker 10: a message from a number I don't recognize.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: My new number. Delete other one. Stephen, your neighbour.
• 34:47
  Speaker 10: This is after I've just met Gabriel, so I reply
• 34:51
  Speaker 10: to say, how is Gabriel? And then Stephen replies to say.
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: He's gone to stay with another local guy. He gets around. Lol.
• 34:58
  Speaker 10: This seems very quick to me, so I reply to say, oh, blimey,
• 35:01
  Speaker 10: who did he stay with, do you know? And Stephen replied.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: No, some soldier guy he fancied. He's been chatting to
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: him online. Shane has really liked him.
• 35:23
  Speaker 24: My name is Barbara Denham. I've lived in Barking for
• 35:26
  Speaker 24: over 35 years, since 1988. Every day since having a dog,
• 35:33
  Speaker 24: first job is, more or less, walk the dog. Walk
• 35:38
  Speaker 24: the dog, come back, something to eat, breakfast. Usually I
• 35:43
  Speaker 24: go up the road from here through the alley and
• 35:45
  Speaker 24: walk the dog around Barking Abbey ground and that's segregated
• 35:50
  Speaker 24: into four separate parts. So you've got the field this side,
• 35:56
  Speaker 24: then Barking Abbey ruins, and then you've got the churchyard,
• 36:00
  Speaker 24: and then there's another field the other side. I came in,
• 36:17
  Speaker 24: turned left again to follow the path around, and I
• 36:21
  Speaker 24: saw a young chap. Well, much as I'm sitting now,
• 36:27
  Speaker 24: head down, back against the wall, and I just thought
• 36:34
  Speaker 24: he's probably sleeping off from the night before. He had
• 36:38
  Speaker 24: dark black hair, dark glasses on.
• 36:42
  Speaker 16: That was screwy.
• 36:43
  Speaker 24: And I'm walking past there, and I thought, I don't know,
• 36:48
  Speaker 24: it seems strange. He never moved a muscle, not a muscle.
• 36:52
  Speaker 24: I don't know what it was, but I decided to
• 36:54
  Speaker 24: turn back and try and catch his attention. So I
• 36:59
  Speaker 24: clapped my hands and sort of did a yoo-hoo, not
• 37:04
  Speaker 24: a muscle, not a flicker of the eyes or anything.
• 37:07
  Speaker 24: There was no blood, no injury, no nothing. But I
• 37:11
  Speaker 24: really seriously thought there's something wrong. And I never thought
• 37:15
  Speaker 24: for a minute a medical problem. Just I don't know why.
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: I assumed he was dead. This is the body of
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: Gabriel Kavari. He's died from a fatal overdose of GHB.
• 37:35
  Speaker 13: The call came in just after 9 o'clock.
• 37:37
  Speaker 12: And just before 3 o'clock that same day, the crime
• 37:41
  Speaker 12: scene is closed down. The case is closed down as
• 37:44
  Speaker 12: being an unexplained death and not a suspicious death. So
• 37:48
  Speaker 12: it's closed down very, very quickly. For a young man
• 37:52
  Speaker 12: to be found dead in the street, you know, in
• 37:54
  Speaker 12: the space of, what, five or six hours, it's closed
• 37:57
  Speaker 12: down and treated as an unexplained death.
• 38:03
  Speaker 24: I didn't have anybody around me at the time to
• 38:06
  Speaker 24: talk with. I had to sit down with my cup
• 38:11
  Speaker 24: of tea and a slice of toast or whatever and
• 38:14
  Speaker 24: let it soak in, um.
• 38:17
  Speaker 22: Of what I've discovered and what had happened. But yeah,
• 38:21
  Speaker 22: it was a bit of a shock.
• 38:26
  Speaker 15: The police's interpretation of Gabriel Kavari's death, like the interpretation
• 38:32
  Speaker 15: of Anthony Walgate's death, was that it was not suspicious.
• 38:37
  Speaker 15: He had died of an overdose and that was all
• 38:41
  Speaker 15: they knew.
• 38:51
  Speaker 10: On the 30th of August 2014, Stephen replies to say, Have.
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: You seen Gabe around Barking at all? Been trying to
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: contact him, but his phone been off a couple of days.
• 39:00
  Speaker 10: And then I reply to say, no, he hasn't got
• 39:02
  Speaker 10: back to me. Stephen follows up by.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: Saying, Please keep trying to contact him. I was not
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: sure if he's just blocking me. Worried about him.
• 39:11
  Speaker 10: It seems genuine because Stephen is showing concern about Gabriel's whereabouts,
• 39:15
  Speaker 10: which naturally heightens my concern why Gabriel has just disappeared.
• 39:19
  Speaker 16: And I can't really let it go.
• 39:21
  Speaker 10: So on the 1st of September, I reply to Stephen
• 39:24
  Speaker 10: to say, so it seems like Gabe just disappeared.
• 39:27
  Speaker 16: Strange, eh?
• 39:28
  Speaker 10: And Stephen replies, yeah.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: I haven't heard anything from him. He did mention going
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: to Spain, as that's where he's meant to be studying.
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: But odd, he's not messaged at all. I would check
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: in police station, but to be honest, I don't even
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: know his surname.
• 39:43
  Speaker 10: He's such a nice, beautiful boy. I just hope he's
• 39:46
  Speaker 10: all right.
• 39:51
  Speaker 18: Once again, he's trying to control a narrative. I think
• 39:55
  Speaker 18: for the first time, there's someone else who's almost actively
• 39:58
  Speaker 18: involved in questioning, and so he's having to come up
• 40:02
  Speaker 18: with a whole new story.
• 40:07
  Speaker 10: On the 11th of September 2014, I get a long
• 40:10
  Speaker 10: text message from Stephen, and it.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: Says, Hey, neighbour, I've just heard some sad news from
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: one of Gabriel's friends that Gabe did return to Spain
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: to be with his boyfriend. I didn't know either. and
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: he died on arrival from an infection. I feel so sad.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: He was our friend.
• 40:27
  Speaker 10: I was completely taken aback by that message, and I
• 40:31
  Speaker 10: replied to say, oh, my God, that is shocking, exclamation mark.
• 40:35
  Speaker 10: Thanks for letting me know.
• 40:35
  Speaker 18: Ryan's been asking so many questions. It's starting to annoy
• 40:43
  Speaker 18: Port at this point. He wants this closed. Ryan's going
• 40:47
  Speaker 18: to keep on asking Port about what's been happening, and.
• 40:52
  Speaker 19: He doesn't want to do that anymore. He's over it.
• 40:54
  Speaker 18: And so the only way to finally fully close that
• 40:58
  Speaker 18: chapter is to say that Gabriel's dead.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: I loved affection with my boyfriend and was caring and compassionate.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: My downside was that I wasn't grateful for what I
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: had and continued to want more, but never to the
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: extent of hurting others. I have a genuine sense of
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: concern for others. I am a good, calm, peaceful person.
• 41:32
  Speaker 25: He was a Daniel, if that makes sense.
• 41:36
  Speaker 8: You know how some people don't suit an abbreviation, and
• 41:39
  Speaker 8: he really didn't suit an abbreviation.
• 41:42
  Speaker 25: He was a shy boy.
• 41:43
  Speaker 8: We're Mandy and Adam Whitworth.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: And we're Daniel Whitworth's parents. I did have an inkling
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: from when he was, I would say, 12, about 12-ish, possibly,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: I thought, oh, he's probably on the other bus, as
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: they say. That didn't worry me at all. No, that
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: was just an observation. I could think, yeah, that's probably
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: the case. And it was no problem. Yeah, it was
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: really good.
• 42:16
  Speaker 25: He was a go-getter. Nothing lazy about him at all.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: I wasn't too worried. for a day or two. But
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: then I think he got to three days, and it
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: is worrying then, and there's no answer from his phone
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: or anything, you know?
• 42:41
  Speaker 14: So.
• 42:42
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I left so many messages on that phone.
• 42:44
  Speaker 21: Yeah.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: It does get worrying then, yeah.
• 42:49
  Speaker 12: Although Daniel had been reported missing, he was classified as
• 42:52
  Speaker 12: a medium risk. Now, medium risk is where there's no
• 42:55
  Speaker 12: actual searching going on, but to be classified as a
• 42:58
  Speaker 12: medium risk, it means you're non-suicidal.
• 43:11
  Speaker 24: This particular day on a Saturday, as I've come through
• 43:14
  Speaker 24: the entrance, I couldn't help but look in that direction.
• 43:17
  Speaker 24: I was going to walk there anyway, but once something
• 43:20
  Speaker 24: like that happens, having found one dead body, you can't
• 43:23
  Speaker 24: help but think, you know, at least there's nobody there
• 43:27
  Speaker 24: now every time. And I've walked.
• 43:29
  Speaker 22: Through and I thought, no, I don't believe it.
• 43:34
  Speaker 24: Another young boy sitting in almost virtually the same place
• 43:39
  Speaker 24: in the same position.
• 43:40
  Speaker 22: I thought he's just got to be sleeping it off.
• 43:44
  Speaker 24: So I'm walking Max along and I'm thinking, well, he's
• 43:49
  Speaker 24: not moving, there's nothing happening.
• 43:53
  Speaker 22: What do I do?
• 43:53
  Speaker 24: I can't walk away and leave him. Something, you know,
• 43:56
  Speaker 24: must have happened. Because he's so, so pale, I'm thinking,
• 44:04
  Speaker 24: I think he's dead. But that's when I saw it
• 44:08
  Speaker 24: looked like he had something white that could very well
• 44:11
  Speaker 24: have been paper stuck down his shirt. And I told
• 44:17
  Speaker 24: the police when I phoned them up, I said, it
• 44:19
  Speaker 24: looks like he's got a note stuck down his shirt.
• 44:25
  Speaker 12: Police were called to the scene and they found another
• 44:29
  Speaker 12: young man sitting upright, and no visible signs of injury,
• 44:35
  Speaker 12: no signs of a struggle, no signs of a robbery
• 44:38
  Speaker 12: or any sort of assault, but exactly the same area
• 44:42
  Speaker 12: Gabriel had been found.
• 44:49
  Speaker 24: I got home, and yes, it did upset me. I
• 44:56
  Speaker 24: just felt so bad for the family, for the parents.
• 45:02
  Speaker 24: This young boy, my mind was all over the show
• 45:05
  Speaker 24: because I just thought, it just seems strange that another
• 45:08
  Speaker 24: young boy has lost his life.
• 45:10
  Speaker 22: Why did he die?
• 45:12
  Speaker 24: When nothing obviously is staring at you.
• 45:14
  Speaker 25: He was found on day three, wasn't he?
• 45:19
  Speaker 17: Yeah.
• 45:19
  Speaker 25: The policeman at the door.
• 45:22
  Speaker 13: You were in the kitchen.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was getting ready for work and I just
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: carried on getting ready for work and you said, oh no,
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: you've got to come in here. I suppose I knew
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: what it was about really, but... Didn't want to know
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: type of thing, really.
• 45:35
  Speaker 25: I answered the door to them, and they immediately took
• 45:39
  Speaker 25: their hats off. And my heart sank.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: He said he's been found in Barking with a suicide note.
• 45:52
  Speaker 25: You did say, have you got the right one?
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I did. Yeah, you know, you cling onto any hope.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: I said, yeah, you could have the wrong person. It
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: might not be Daniel, you know.
• 45:59
  Speaker 8: And it was, no, no, we've found his driving licence
• 46:02
  Speaker 8: and what have you in his back pocket. We're confident
• 46:06
  Speaker 8: that it's him. So, no, you don't have to come
• 46:11
  Speaker 8: and identify him. And they said it looked like an overdose.
• 46:22
  Speaker 12: When Daniel's body was found, he was found sitting on
• 46:25
  Speaker 12: a bed sheet. He also had... drugs in his pocket.
• 46:32
  Speaker 12: He also had the note that was supposedly written by him.
• 46:38
  Speaker 12: All of that presented such a huge amount of opportunities
• 46:42
  Speaker 12: for the investigation to progress and a huge amount of
• 46:45
  Speaker 12: forensication and DNA evidence.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: They found and said they're going to send you an
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: email here with a line from the note to see
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: if you can identify this handwriting. This was... Adeomo Phillips
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: was the police officer who was dealing with that.
• 47:04
  Speaker 8: All they did was sent us the last line, I've
• 47:07
  Speaker 8: thrown my phone in the grass somewhere.
• 47:11
  Speaker 25: Sorry, everyone. It was a bit odd.
• 47:15
  Speaker 8: And we wanted to see the whole note. You know,
• 47:18
  Speaker 8: when somebody tells you that your boy has committed suicide,
• 47:23
  Speaker 8: all you can think is, why, why, why? And that
• 47:26
  Speaker 8: note would have given us that reason.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: It's just a couple of words, really. It didn't look
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: like his handwriting, but he didn't really have handwriting. People
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: don't write, everything's on a screen, you know. Especially from
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: that little bit, you can't identify the handwriting. So when
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: she phoned back and said, well, can you identify that
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: as his handwriting, verify it? And I said, no, no,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: I can't. But sadly, Adeomo Phillips, on that day, somehow
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: has written down, yes, the family has verified this as
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Daniel's handwriting. And all of the police officers from that point,
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: they're going with that information.
• 48:05
  Speaker 10: Tragically, there were young gay men being found allegedly with
• 48:09
  Speaker 10: drug overdoses in the same geographical area within months of
• 48:13
  Speaker 10: each other. That should have set alarm bells ringing.
• 48:18
  Speaker 15: On the Barking and Dagenham post, questions were being asked
• 48:21
  Speaker 15: whether the deaths were being treated as linked or.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: At least suspicious.
• 48:26
  Speaker 15: It was then that the police came back to them
• 48:28
  Speaker 15: and said, well, it's unusual, but it's not suspicious, which
• 48:32
  Speaker 15: the editor couldn't believe. But the police are telling you
• 48:35
  Speaker 15: that that's all you can really run with. And to
• 48:38
  Speaker 15: be honest, putting in a newspaper and online the headline unusual,
• 48:42
  Speaker 15: but not suspicious about three bodies raises questions on its
• 48:45
  Speaker 15: own without the journalists saying anything.
• 49:02
  Speaker 14: After Anthony had died, I was constantly checking the Barclay
• 49:06
  Speaker 14: & Dagenham Post. I'd read the article. I then Googled
• 49:14
  Speaker 14: the post's address and noticed how close it was. I
• 49:19
  Speaker 14: actually rang my liaison officer, who was very abrupt and
• 49:23
  Speaker 14: said they had nothing to do with each other. I
• 49:25
  Speaker 14: said to him, well, don't you think it's a bit coincidental?
• 49:27
  Speaker 14: They're literally next to each other. So he said, no,
• 49:31
  Speaker 14: he said one of them was a foreigner and the
• 49:33
  Speaker 14: other one didn't even live in the area. And that
• 49:36
  Speaker 14: was it. They had nothing to do with each other.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: Me and Mandy were allowed to go and see the note.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: You want to see the suicide note. As soon as
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: I saw it, I said, there's nothing in here that
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: identifies it as Daniel. There isn't any names of anybody,
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: nobody's mentioned, nothing, nothing personal in it at all.
• 50:01
  Speaker 15: Detailed that Daniel had had a sexual relationship with Gabriel Kavari,
• 50:08
  Speaker 15: that Gabriel had died... had overdosed while they were having
• 50:12
  Speaker 15: sex and that Daniel felt so guilty about it that
• 50:16
  Speaker 15: he was now taking an overdose of drugs.
• 50:22
  Speaker 8: The note said, don't blame the guy I was with
• 50:24
  Speaker 8: last night. So the note put this person in there.
• 50:30
  Speaker 8: So that was what we were pushing for. Find out
• 50:32
  Speaker 8: who this person is. Find out, find out, find out.
• 50:35
  Speaker 8: So my suspicion was that's where he got the drugs from.
• 50:40
  Speaker 8: if indeed he'd done that, because Daniel and drugs just
• 50:43
  Speaker 8: don't go together.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: There was all these suspicions immediately about that note, which
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: I put to Slaymaker, and he just turned around and said, well,
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: you're in a terrible state of grief, which was true,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: so you don't really know what you're thinking. Daniel was
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: in a terrible state when he wrote it, so it
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: might not be as you'd expect. He explained it away.
• 51:06
  Speaker 13: The note itself did shape the investigation. It gave an
• 51:10
  Speaker 13: easy option.
• 51:10
  Speaker 12: It gave an easy hypothesis and solution, one that closed
• 51:14
  Speaker 12: down two cases very, very quickly and effectively without any
• 51:18
  Speaker 12: more resource, without any more investigation. And I think it
• 51:22
  Speaker 12: became the easy option to adopt.
• 51:27
  Speaker 8: You can't accept that he's killed somebody and then killed
• 51:30
  Speaker 8: himself three weeks later. It just sits there like a cloud.
• 51:48
  Speaker 18: The police have essentially concluded that Gabriel and Daniel was
• 51:51
  Speaker 18: an isolated incident.
• 51:53
  Speaker 19: They're both connected. They're not looking for any further leads.
• 51:56
  Speaker 18: Now, simultaneously to this, at this time, Port is now
• 52:00
  Speaker 18: being charged.
• 52:01
  Speaker 19: Related to the death of Anthony.
• 52:04
  Speaker 18: Because of a local MP that Anthony's mother has been pursuing,
• 52:08
  Speaker 18: there is this additional pressure placed on the police, and
• 52:11
  Speaker 18: they have to follow through.
• 52:19
  Speaker 14: Oh, my word.
• 52:20
  Speaker 12: I've never seen this document before, so it's the first
• 52:23
  Speaker 12: time I've seen it, and it is the report to
• 52:25
  Speaker 12: the CPS about whether.
• 52:27
  Speaker 13: Or not to charge.
• 52:27
  Speaker 12: And the very first page, where it's supposed to be
• 52:31
  Speaker 12: the basic evidence or the facts of the case, the first.
• 52:34
  Speaker 13: Line is, the deceased, a male prostitute.
• 52:40
  Speaker 12: So I assume this is about Anthony, and they're describing
• 52:44
  Speaker 12: him as a male prostitute. who died in the suspect's
• 52:48
  Speaker 12: bed from an overdose of GHB. Anthony was not a
• 52:52
  Speaker 12: male prostitute. I think that the fact that there was
• 52:56
  Speaker 12: some evidence to say that he was working as an
• 52:59
  Speaker 12: escort that evening then almost devalued him and devalued the investigation,
• 53:05
  Speaker 12: and that is so sad because this was a young
• 53:07
  Speaker 12: man in his prime who was trying and working hard.
• 53:11
  Speaker 13: He had his whole life ahead of him.
• 53:15
  Speaker 12: So reading through this, they're looking at what they can
• 53:18
  Speaker 12: possibly charge with, and they are considering murder or manslaughter.
• 53:22
  Speaker 13: But what they've put in this form is that there is.
• 53:24
  Speaker 12: No evidence of murder or manslaughter, and that the only
• 53:28
  Speaker 12: thing that they could possibly consider is wasting police time,
• 53:31
  Speaker 12: but they're out of time because it's been too long.
• 53:35
  Speaker 12: So the only offense, criminal offense, that they can consider
• 53:38
  Speaker 12: at this time, according to this form, is perverting the
• 53:41
  Speaker 12: course of justice.
• 53:43
  Speaker 13: Which is what they did actually end up charging him with.
• 53:47
  Speaker 13: I'm quite shocked at this.
• 54:00
  Speaker 20: I thought that was a result because we'd made representations.
• 54:04
  Speaker 20: They'd then done as we'd asked them to do and
• 54:06
  Speaker 20: investigate the matter. They then came back with a result
• 54:10
  Speaker 20: that they'd been charged. Sarah didn't feel like she had
• 54:14
  Speaker 20: a result. And she was incredibly, particularly unhappy about the
• 54:21
  Speaker 20: fact that.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: He'd been given bail.
• 54:24
  Speaker 20: And she immediately said, they've let a murderer go free.
• 54:29
  Speaker 20: He's killed my son and he's going to kill again.
• 54:33
  Speaker 15: There's just so many questions about it.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense.
• 54:39
  Speaker 15: Oh, and we've got this guy who has lied to
• 54:42
  Speaker 15: us No, we'll just do him for perverting the course
• 54:45
  Speaker 15: of justice.
• 54:53
  Speaker 20: After Hortz had been charged, I received a phone call.
• 54:58
  Speaker 20: He identified himself as a senior officer. He was very forceful,
• 55:02
  Speaker 20: quite firm. It made it clear to me that Sarah
• 55:05
  Speaker 20: Sack was causing them a lot of work and that
• 55:09
  Speaker 20: my office, my interventions, formally on their behalf, was causing
• 55:14
  Speaker 20: a lot of work for them, and frankly, they didn't
• 55:16
  Speaker 20: need it. He wanted to tell me that there was
• 55:20
  Speaker 20: more to the case than met the eye.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: I said, how do you mean?
• 55:24
  Speaker 20: And he then suggested, and I remember the turn of phrase,
• 55:28
  Speaker 20: he said, you know what type he was. And at
• 55:32
  Speaker 20: that point, I was incredibly furious. I began to agree
• 55:38
  Speaker 20: with Sarah Sack that homophobia was involved.
• 55:49
  Speaker 14: He got eight months. Four months in prison and four
• 55:52
  Speaker 14: months on licence. When the police at the time was
• 55:56
  Speaker 14: telling that, you know, it's a very serious offence, he
• 55:58
  Speaker 14: could get years in prison, et cetera, and he didn't.
• 56:04
  Speaker 10: All of a sudden, Stephen stopped responding to my text messages,
• 56:07
  Speaker 10: and I'd asked one of his friends, and I gathered
• 56:10
  Speaker 10: from there that something had happened and Stephen was in prison.
• 56:13
  Speaker 10: Given that I had seen the drugs in his flat,
• 56:15
  Speaker 10: my immediate assumption was that it was drug-related, When eventually
• 56:27
  Speaker 10: Stephen got out and contacted me, I was keen to
• 56:29
  Speaker 10: know what had actually happened. And so I texted him,
• 56:32
  Speaker 10: I said, so how is everything? And he replied, really good.
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: So nice being home. We'll definitely appreciate freedom more now.
• 56:39
  Speaker 10: But I wanted to dig further. I'm a bit of
• 56:41
  Speaker 10: a nosy neighbour, I have to say. So I replied,
• 56:43
  Speaker 10: what actually happened?
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: And he replied.
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: Minor offence. Just was really silly. 60 second mistake. Cost
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: me 10 weeks of my life inside.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: Blimey.
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: Anyway. At least I didn't lose my job or boyfriend.
• 57:01
  Speaker 18: Port is probably realising that he's getting away with this.
• 57:06
  Speaker 18: He's actively seeing now that the police investigations are inadequate,
• 57:11
  Speaker 18: so still Port is not under question for actually murdering Anthony,
• 57:16
  Speaker 18: nor is he even being considered in connection to the
• 57:19
  Speaker 18: deaths of Daniel and Gabriel. The police have decided this
• 57:23
  Speaker 18: narrative of Daniel and Gabriel being linked together, Daniel having
• 57:26
  Speaker 18: committed suicide, but this still needs to be referred to
• 57:29
  Speaker 18: for coroner's court for an inquest. And so this is
• 57:33
  Speaker 18: done essentially to determine officially what that cause of death is.
• 57:36
  Speaker 8: Our family liaison said to us, and I remember the
• 57:44
  Speaker 8: words as clear as day, that you're not going to
• 57:46
  Speaker 8: learn anything new here today.
• 57:49
  Speaker 25: This is just.
• 57:51
  Speaker 25: Basically going over what we already know.
• 57:55
  Speaker 8: And they've got to define whether it was suicide or not.
• 58:00
  Speaker 8: And I'm sad to say that I learned a lot
• 58:04
  Speaker 8: in there.
• 58:08
  Speaker 15: What stood out to me at the time was a
• 58:10
  Speaker 15: police officer getting up on the stand and explaining that
• 58:14
  Speaker 15: no DNA testing had taken place. Daniel Whitworth, for example,
• 58:18
  Speaker 15: was found with a suicide note inside a plastic wallet,
• 58:24
  Speaker 15: which looks suspicious in the first place. Who's gone to
• 58:27
  Speaker 15: the trouble to place that inside a plastic wallet? But
• 58:29
  Speaker 15: the note wasn't tested.
• 58:32
  Speaker 8: I thought the plastic it was in was what the
• 58:35
  Speaker 8: police put it in. It was found in that plastic sleeve.
• 58:42
  Speaker 8: So all this argument of, ooh, You can tell he
• 58:45
  Speaker 8: was going dizzy. You know, it said, I'm going dizzy now.
• 58:48
  Speaker 8: His writing slips off the page. Well, his writing couldn't
• 58:52
  Speaker 8: have slipped off the page. Where did he suddenly find
• 58:54
  Speaker 8: the dexterity to put it into a plastic sleeve?
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: He had to admit that they hadn't done any forensic
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: testing because the coroner was asking him these questions to say, well,
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: didn't you do this? Didn't you do that?
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 59:10
  Speaker 25: Was very curious.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: How was your forensics? And he said, well, we didn't
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: do that, we didn't do this. There was quite a
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: little list of things he weren't interested in doing and
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: the coroner wasn't happy with it.
• 59:20
  Speaker 8: Yeah, she was like, you know, well, why didn't you?
• 59:23
  Speaker 8: Why haven't you done a forensic on this? Why haven't
• 59:26
  Speaker 8: you done?
• 59:27
  Speaker 25: And he was adamant.
• 59:28
  Speaker 8: It's because we'd said that the handwriting was Daniel's. That
• 59:31
  Speaker 8: was what he was going with. He said, yeah, they
• 59:33
  Speaker 8: did verify. The family has verified.
• 59:35
  Speaker 15: It just seemed weird that two bodies could turn up
• 59:52
  Speaker 15: dead within weeks of each other in the same graveyard.
• 59:57
  Speaker 15: and no tests were taking place and that could be
• 59:59
  Speaker 15: admitted and there were no visible repercussions.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 15: It's just, it's quite odd to witness that.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 8: Then the coroner said, I can't determine whether this was
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 8: suicide or not, so I'm.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 25: Going to leave it open.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 15: I went in expecting a straightforward inquest and I was
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 15: just astounded because I came out confused.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 8: I just wanted them to reinvestigate, go into that case further,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 8: because I thought an open verdict meant we could, and apparently, no.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 8: The case is closed, it's just an open verdict, because
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 8: the coroner can't decide for sure that Daniel took his
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 8: own life.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 25: And that's what that meant.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 15: I knew when I wrote it, even as a young journalist,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 15: I was like, this doesn't hang together.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 15: I had one editor coming up to me saying, said,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 15: this doesn't make sense. And I was like, this is
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 15: literally what happened at the inquest.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: It was the best we could do, essentially, with the
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: information we were given.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 15: I feel pretty embarrassed about that and pretty devastated, to
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 15: be honest, that we essentially repeated a serial killer's lies
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 15: without realising it.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 22: I knew his photo and I knew it was him
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 22: and I couldn't remember his name because it was years later.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 22: And he told me his name was Lance and I
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 22: knew that weren't true. But this is Grindr. I wanted
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 22: one thing. I wanted to have sex. It didn't really
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 22: matter what his name was. He asked me directly if
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 22: I liked chem sex and I categorically said no. And
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 22: he was like, that's fine. We won't do that. So
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 22: I agreed to meet him. We were having sex. He
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 22: couldn't get an erection. And it kind of was like
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 22: a flashback to the first time. I was like, I've
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 22: put myself in this same situation I put myself in
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 22: all those years ago where I've come around and I'm
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 22: not enjoying myself. He then went to go to the
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 22: toilet and he came back and he injected the liquid
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 22: into my anus. I shot up in pain and it
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 22: was painful. And I asked him what he'd done, and
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 22: he told me he'd put lube in so that it
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 22: was easier for him to penetrate. I'd never done that before,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 22: so I was a bit like, no, I don't want that.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 22: And he was like, OK, OK, but it's in now,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 22: so let's just have sex. And we did, we continued
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 22: to have sex. He obviously got bored within five minutes,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 22: and he went to the toilet again. And then he
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 22: came back and he did it again. And I jumped
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 22: up and I was like, what the fuck? what have
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 22: you just done? I've just told you no. And he
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 22: was like, sorry, sorry, it's just that I'm finding it
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 22: hard to get in. And I was like, I don't
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 22: give a fuck. But for some reason, I agreed to
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 22: carry on. I think at the time I was thinking,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 22: let's get this over and done with so I can
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 22: go home. I started to get dizzy. I felt drunk.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 22: And that was the moment that I was like, hang on,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 22: this ain't right. He's done something, he's trying to drug me.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: If I intended to take drugs with a guy, I
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: always discussed it first. No guy came to mind without
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: knowing what was planned.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 22: He then gets up again and goes to the bathroom
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 22: again and at this point I was like, absolutely not.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 22: This is the moment now I'm going to do what
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 22: my parents taught me and take myself out of a
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 22: dangerous situation. So I got dressed and he came back
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 22: and he was like, oh, where are you going? And
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 22: this time I can even see the syringe in his hand.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 22: And I'm like, I'm going home. He gave me a
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 22: glass of water before I left, which I sipped because
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 22: I felt drunk. Looking back, maybe not the right decision,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 22: but I did sip it. And I asked him, have
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 22: you given me drugs? And he said no. I lied
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 22: and said, I am allergic to a lot of drugs.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 22: So you need to tell me if you have, because
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 22: it could affect.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 5: All my life.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 22: And he still said no.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: I never pressured them to try it, nor did I
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: drug any guy's drink. They left happy and healthy.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 22: But he seemed a bit panicked, and he walked me
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 22: back to Barking Station to make sure I got on
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 22: the bus. And I think he was scared that I
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 22: was going to pass out.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 15: A body turned up in a dark corner of the
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 15: green that is next to St Margaret's Church in Barking.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 15: The curious thing is that it is yards away. It's
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 15: on the other side of the wall too, the spot
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 15: on which Daniel Whitworth was found dead and before him,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 15: Gabriel Kavari.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 12: Identification found on the body showed that this was Jack Taylor,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 12: He's only 25 years old and he was from Dagenham.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 15: Jack was, like many young men, coming to terms with
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 15: better understanding his sexuality and he was, I suppose you
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 15: could say, curious about a side of his personality that
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 15: may be attracted to men and perhaps considering figuring that
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 15: out for himself.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 5: My name's Neil Hudgel. I am the family solicitor for
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 5: the victims of Stephen Paul. Jack's found propped up against
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 5: the cemetery wall. Police attend, and in a similar way,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 5: nothing untoward about this, even though by this time there's
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 5: at least a small number of police officers who've had
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 5: contact in relation to each of the investigations. So it's
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 5: alarming that there's still a perceived view of Nothing to
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 5: see here.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 12: Very, very quickly, again, a decision is made that this
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 12: is a non-suspicious death. And the actual report here, they say,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 12: and this is from the detective sergeant, my suspicions are
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 12: an overdose or a severe reaction to some form of
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 12: medication mixed with controlled drugs. And it actually says here,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 12: I make this assessment based on the syringe, white powder
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 12: and clear liquid. So just the fact that those are
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 12: in somebody's pockets, shouldn't really determine the cause of death
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 12: or how somebody died, and whether or not it's suspicious
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 12: or non-suspicious. No further investigation appears to have been done.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 6: Jack worked at a warehouse storing expensive champagne bottles. The
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 6: staff at the warehouse were regularly given drugs tests, so
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 6: he wouldn't have risked his livelihood. and he also had
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 6: an eye on hoping to join the police force. So
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 6: if he'd have got a conviction for drugs, that would
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 6: have been the end of it. So his family knew
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 6: full well he would have never have taken drugs willingly.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 15: Jen and Donna Taylor, his sisters were completely baffled as
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 15: well as being devastated. And they say, none of this
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 15: makes sense. We think this might be suspicious. The police
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 15: don't think it's suspicious.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 5: The Metropolitan Police came into contact with two forces of
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 5: nature in Donner and Jenny Taylor, who were not accepting anything,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 5: just were not accepting it. So the sisters spent hours
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 5: and hours and hours poring over the detail, found out
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 5: about the other deaths, established similarities between them, the use
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 5: of chemsex, where they were found, their personal history, and
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 5: badgered the police, badgered them and badgered them.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 16: And one of the lines of inquiry was, have you
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 16: got any CCTV?
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 6: The CCTV, which had been taken from just outside Barking
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 6: railway station, was the last known sighting of Jack before he.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 19: Was found dead.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 6: And you see him, such a slight figure, walking next
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 6: to this very, very tall man.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 15: The police don't seem concerned with who the man is.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 15: Jen and Donna obviously are asking, do you not think
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 15: that man needs identifying? He might at the very least
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 15: be able to help with this.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 12: Jack Taylor's death was considered by police to be non-suspicious
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 12: because it had been closed down as a non-suspicious death,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 12: as an overdose. There was no need to investigate any further.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 12: There was no need to share those images. And there
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 12: was no need to put in any extra resources.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 15: Eventually, the sisters, and I don't know how they're doing
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 15: this while they're in the throes of grief, but they
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 15: somehow wear the police down and convince them to go
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 15: to the effort of releasing the CCTV footage.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: And just as an aside, it's not an effort. They
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: do it all the time.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 22: I saw the CCTV pictures on a Facebook post being like,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 22: do you know this guy? Last seen with Jack Taylor.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 22: It was definitely him. I mean, even the side photo
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 22: and the blonde, I just knew. And I did ring
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 22: anonymously and said, this is the phone number I've got,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 22: this is the name I've got, but I know it's fake.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 13: Within hours, he's identified.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 15: He's identified by another police officer, so he recognises him.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: He says, that's Stephen Porte.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 5: Port's brought in, and then the dots start to be
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 5: joined up because, of course, Port is the one that
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 5: relatively recently come out of prison for a term that
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 5: he's done following the finding of Anthony. And here presto,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 5: you know, we've got something on our hands here that
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 5: we didn't think we had. And we'd better get the
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 5: experts in the murder investigation team to do a proper job.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 16: So this is Jack Taylor. Do you recognise that, Nick?
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: No. I don't recognize.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: His face.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 16: So you don't recognize his face?
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: I do not know, no.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 16: Stephen, did you have any involvement in his death?
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: I did not know, no.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 16: Did you kill Jack Taylor?
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: I did not know.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 6: From there, everything started to sort of start being joined up.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 6: The link with Anthony, first of all, And then finally
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 6: the link with Gabriel and Daniel as well.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 16: And Stephen, did you write this letter? Yeah, CRT 11.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: No, I didn't.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 16: The photos of it that's found with Daniel.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 17: No.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 17: No.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 16: Are you telling us the truth, Stephen?
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you the truth, yes.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 16: About the letter?
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 8: We had a whole year of trying to come to
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 8: terms with suicide. Adam was at work. I got a
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 8: phone call from Slaymaker. And his first words were, don't
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 8: build your hopes up, but we think we found this
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 8: third person, this person that Daniel was with. And we
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 8: think Daniel was murdered. Just matter of factly.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 25: And I was like, oh, crikey.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 9: A man has appeared in court accused of drugging and
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 9: killing four men in a string of attacks in East
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 9: London over the last 14 months. Stephen Port has been
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 9: charged with murdering the four young men who he met
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 9: through gay dating websites.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 14: I felt like I'd been shot. Straight pain to my
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 14: chest and I'd spurt into tears. It was awful. It
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 14: was awful being, after all that time, proved right. And
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 14: the fact of if they'd listened to me in the
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 14: first place, them other three lads wouldn't have died.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 20: I think she's the most determined person I've ever met.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 20: It makes me emotional to think.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 16: She did everything.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 20: Couldn't have done any more. Three men are dead who
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 20: didn't need to be dead. It's probably as bad as
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 20: it could ever get.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 26: Three of the four people that have been found out
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 26: were found slumped up against the wall here of the abbey.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 25: Pardon?
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know that.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 16: You didn't know that? So that's news to you, is it?
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 16: Did you put them there?
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 17: No.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 26: So obviously Anthony was found slumped outside your address with
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 26: a large amount of GHB in his system. The other
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 26: three men we've been discussing were all found over by
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 26: the wall area of the abbey we can see on
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 26: the map. Again, all of them were slumped against the
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 26: wall with a large amount of GHB in their body.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 26: Can you account for that at all?
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 4: No, I can't.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 22: I was looking at the dates and I realised it
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 22: was one day between me meeting him and Jack meeting
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 22: him and I felt a lot of guilt. And I
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 22: still feel a lot of guilt because I believe in
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 22: my own head that had I had the common sense
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 22: then to actually report maybe Jack wouldn't have died. I
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 22: could have done more. And I didn't because gay people
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 22: don't trust the police to take them seriously. And that's
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 22: what it comes down to. But also, how do you
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 22: tell a police officer that a guy that you met
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 22: on a hookup app that you went to have consensual
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 22: sex with sexually assaulted you? Even on paper, that sounds ridiculous.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 22: I think I would have been laughed out of the room.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 6: Port's laptop was forensically examined and that forensic examination revealed
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 6: for the first time the extent of Stephen Port's obsession
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 6: with young gay men, his obsession with drug rape videos online.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 6: It looked like he was literally on his computer all
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 6: the time, all day, all night, when he wasn't working.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 6: And this was his life.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 26: So did you have any involvement in the death of
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 26: the male that we just spoke about a short while ago,
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 26: Gabriel Kovari or Gabriel Klein?
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: No, I didn't know that at all.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 10: I immediately knew he was the killer.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 4: He was guilty.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 10: And my mind went into overload because I had these
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 10: messages on my phone that were incriminating because they were
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 10: basically Stephen doing a web of lies about Gabriel.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 16: Stephen, this is serious.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: OK.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 16: It's really important that you tell us the absolute truth.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 16: Told you so far, it's true.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 6: Once the case had been opened by the prosecutor, the
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 6: penny started to drop that this wasn't an ordinary kind
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 6: of murder trial, this was something else. the evidence was
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 6: going to be quite harrowing. It is actually the worst
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 6: I've ever seen in court.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 14: Never heard his voice and I don't want to hear
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 14: his voice. I wasn't in court when he was giving evidence.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 14: I just can't bear to hear his voice.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 25: He was very, like it was nothing.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: Laughy, jokey.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 8: He was even laughing and joking with the police he
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 8: was strapped to.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 25: I didn't see any regret in his face.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 6: The prosecution painted a picture of a man who was
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 6: obsessed with drug rape sex and he wasn't interested in
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 6: who they were. It was all about the sex and
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 6: if they happened to die, so be it. He would
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 6: deal with that.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 4: I've been taking GHB hundreds of times with the last
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 4: three of my boyfriends and many other random guys, and
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 4: no one ever died before.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 23: My role really was to explain to the jury more
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 23: about the nature of GHB, how it could be used,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 23: how it could be taken, what the effects are, and
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 23: then how it could contribute to death. Each person has
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 23: their own dose level that they would be comfortable with.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 23: So essentially a dose that causes euphoria in one person
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 23: could actually be sedating in another person and potentially even fatal.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 6: When we talk about people being drugged, it doesn't sound
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 6: like a violent crime. One of the key pieces of
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 6: evidence which really showed in incredibly graphic detail what Stephen
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 6: Port was doing after he had drugged these young men
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 6: was a piece of video that he'd taken himself showing
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 6: him having sex with a man who was completely comatose.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: When you see.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 6: What he was doing, you realize, no, this was an
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 6: extremely violent crime. Looking at the reaction of the jurors,
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 6: I could see a lot of them looked very, very upset.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 6: And I think at least one or two of them
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 6: were crying as they were watching it. But it was
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 6: important for them to understand this is what he was into,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 6: not just on that occasion, but over and over and
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 6: over again.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 15: A number of surviving victims went to court and very
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 15: bravely testified against Stephen Port.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 22: Going to court was probably the most traumatic of everything.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 22: You had to relive every moment of it, and it
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 22: never went away the entire time. I think I cried
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 22: a lot.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 6: These survivors described Port administered the GHB drugs in two ways.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 6: First way was giving the victim a drink of orange
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 6: juice and the second way was pretending that he was
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 6: administering lubricant.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 13: These people.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 6: They weren't willing participants. They didn't go along with being drugged.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 6: They were deliberately drugged without even knowing what was happening.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 22: My biggest what if was, what if I stayed? What
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 22: if he injected me one last time? You know, I
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 22: felt dizzy at that point. I felt drunk. I can't
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 22: even breathe. comprehend what the last shot would have actually
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 22: done i probably would have gone unconscious you.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 23: Could have one dose that could cause euphoria the second
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 23: dose could actually make you fall asleep third dose could
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 23: even be fatal.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 22: I can't say that i would have survived a final
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 22: shot or not i don't know.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 8: I can only imagine what they put themselves through to
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 8: be there. We've never had the opportunity, really, to thank them.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 8: However many there were, whoever they were, we can't thank
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 8: you enough.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 15: Having the living victims saying, this is his MO, this
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 15: is how he acted with me, this is what he
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 15: was into, enables the jurors to then go, Well, what
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 15: do we think he was doing in the hours leading
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 15: up to the deaths of Anthony, Gabriel, Daniel and Jack?
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 4: I value all life. I am not a killer. It's
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 4: just a tragic accident.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 7: A serial killer who used gay dating websites to find
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 7: his victims has been found guilty of murdering four men.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 7: Chef Stephen Port gave lethal doses of a date rape
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 7: drug to his victims to indulge his fetish for sex
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 7: with unconscious men.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 12: We have just come out of court and finally we
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 12: have got justice for Jack.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 4: And now we can let Jack rest in peace.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 18: There were seven survivors of Port as well who all
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 18: testified against him and Port was convicted of crimes against
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 18: all of these seven individuals. And it's really important that
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 18: we remember their stories too.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 22: I'm relieved that Our case was taken into consideration because
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 22: while the murders were terrible, there were still other victims
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 22: that came forward. And that's just the ones that came forward.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 22: I can't even imagine how many more didn't.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 6: Thank you.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 27: Mixture of emotions here today. Joy and celebration that justice
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 27: has finally been done. But also deep pain and anguish
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 27: that it took the Metropolitan Police so long to catch
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 27: this serial killer.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 25: Strangely......
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 14: It' s still not enough.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 4: You....
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 25: You're glad it's come back guilty, but it wasn't enough.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 17: Stephen Port was convicted of terrible crimes and today he
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 17: was handed a jail sentence befitting the nature of what
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 17: he did.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 19: The judge told him he would spend the rest of
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 19: his life in jail.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 5: The family learned things at trial that they didn't know about.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 5: Some of the pieces of the jigsaw were falling into
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 5: place around the police ineptitude and around police attitude. And
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 5: so they couldn't start that grieving process because there were
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 5: still so many unanswered questions.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 18: The Barking and Dagenham police refer themselves to the IPCC
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 18: and they do this for an investigation to be conducted
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 18: into their conduct. But ultimately that investigation finds that apparently
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 18: Amongst all of the police officers involved, there was no
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 18: misconduct or gross misconduct to answer to. A lot more
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 18: information came out in the trial, which ultimately led to
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 18: a huge inquest.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 28: We know how these four young men died. We know
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 28: who killed them. What these inquests will also examine is
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 28: whether there were missed opportunities during the police investigation to
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 28: stop Stephen Port and whether some of those deaths could
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 28: have been prevented.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 5: The inquest was the first opportunity to listen to what
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 5: the police officers had to say.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 16: They were compelled to give evidence.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 5: So there were lots of stuff that the families found
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 5: very difficult to digest.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 6: We heard the victims being described as homeless, drug users,
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 6: sex workers. You know, the kinds of descriptions that the
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 6: police had used at the.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 16: Time to.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 6: Form their opinions of the victims, I think, was quite telling.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 5: Each of the families, in their own way, had to
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 5: present evidence to the inquest. And in some respect, it
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 5: was quite cathartic for them because they were able to
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 5: describe their loved ones in a way that properly depicted them.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 5: So nothing like the stereotypes that had been presented as
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 5: part of the original narrative.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 6: There were a lot of mistakes that emerged during the
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 6: course of the inquest. You know, one of the worst
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 6: initial mistakes was that the police did not even find
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 6: their own intelligence on Stephen Port.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 15: When Anthony Walker was murdered, Stephen Port was already a
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 15: sexual assault suspect.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 12: They should have done a basic police check to find
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 12: out what was known about him. And I'm aware that
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 12: there was an allegation made in 2012 and also in
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 12: 2014 that involved Stephen Port drugging and raping young men.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 12: Now that isn't shown on this paperwork anywhere.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 5: It was layer upon layer upon layer of incompetence based
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 5: on an initial narrative that all the focus from day
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 5: one was on validating.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 6: The other major, major mistake that was made right from
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 6: the word go They seized Stephen Port's laptop computer, but
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 6: it wasn't examined, and that laptop computer contained everything they
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 6: needed to know about Stephen Port.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 5: So there's a catalogue of reasons here as to why,
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 5: at the time that Gabriel was found dead, that Port
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 5: shouldn't have been on the street.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 17: Today, an inquest jury has determined that Anthony Wargate, Gabriel Kavari,
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 17: Daniel Whitworth and Jack Taylor were unlawfully killed. They have
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 17: also found that the deaths of three of those young men, Gabriel,
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  Speaker 17: Daniel and Jack, could probably have been prevented had the
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  Speaker 17: initial police responses been and investigations been better. It is
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  Speaker 17: a devastating finding.
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  Speaker 29: The inadequate investigation by the Metropolitan Police into the deaths
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  Speaker 29: of Anthony, Gabriel, Daniel and Jack should be on public
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  Speaker 29: record as one of the most widespread institutional failings in
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 29: modern history.
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  Speaker 14: I've said all along, and I will always say it,
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  Speaker 14: it was homophobia. If that had been a young girl
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  Speaker 14: who was 23 dumped outside near the bins, there would
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 14: have been a lot more investigating.
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  Speaker 10: Looking at Stephen now, he is perhaps more intelligent than
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  Speaker 10: I gave him credit for. They say the quiet ones
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 10: are the worst, don't they? And what was going on,
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  Speaker 10: you know, in those kind of monosyllabic answers he would
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 10: give me while I was chatting about everything and anything
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 10: to him If it was deception on that scale, it
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 10: was very adept because to keep that pretense up for
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 10: 10 years, that's remarkable.
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  Speaker 22: I hate that photo. That photo haunts me because that
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  Speaker 22: is not the person I met. He was very good
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  Speaker 22: at deceiving people because that's not the person I saw
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  Speaker 22: and that's not the person I had sex with. It
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 22: was all kind of a facade.
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  Speaker 12: I have a huge amount of respect for the survivors
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 12: of Stephenport. I would also encourage other people to come
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  Speaker 12: forward so that this can be prevented from happening again
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  Speaker 12: because we cannot have suspects, perpetrators, predators hiding in plain
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 12: sight because people who are gay or who are different
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 12: are not encouraged to come forward.
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  Speaker 5: Persistence is what got this case solved. Families all in
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 5: their own way contributed to that. They all shouted out
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 5: that this is foul play.
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  Speaker 15: If it weren't for the families, but especially for Jen
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  Speaker 15: and Donna, I suspect that we might still.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: Not know what happened in Barking.
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  Speaker 15: You know, it doesn't bear thinking about how many more
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 15: men would have been raped and drugged and murdered in
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 15: East London.
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  Speaker 5: At the moment there is a new IOPC investigation. The
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 5: family's hopes are for some answers and some accountability. Their
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 5: concern is to make sure that other families don't suffer
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 5: some of the outrages and injustices that they did.
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  Speaker 21: We believe that a thorough yet proportionate new investigation.
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  Speaker 1: The facts are there. It's plain to see. There's a
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: great catalogue of the list of things they've done badly
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: that they should answer for. They've got to be answerable
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: for what they've done, you know.
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  Speaker 25: Yeah, because Daniel would still be here.
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  Speaker 17: Yeah.
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  Speaker 22: It's OK to have hookups. Just make sure you are
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 22: safe when you're doing it. It's always OK to say
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 22: no and it's always OK to change your mind. You
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 22: don't have to have sex with someone just because you
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 22: said you would two hours ago. You're allowed to leave
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 22: and you're allowed to panic. You're absolutely allowed to panic.
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  Speaker 8: You've really got to be 100% selfish and if it
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 8: means you make a twat of yourself or you look stupid, well,
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 8: better that than your parents having to bury you. That's
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 8: the way to look at this now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got fantastic memories of him, yeah. And that's
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: all I remember. I don't remember Daniel as some victim.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: We had a whole lifetime together, me and him. You know,
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: it was a lifetime and a great one. I've got
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: fantastic memories of him, yeah.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 14: Anthony always used to say, you wait, Cesar, one day
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 14: I'll be famous, everybody will be talking about me, which
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 14: they are, but obviously for the wrong reasons. But he
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 14: always said he'd be famous.
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  Speaker 6: Over the many years that I've been covering this case,
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 6: one of the things that, you know, I really think
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 6: came across wasn't really how they died that brought them
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 6: together as a group. The thing that they actually had
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 6: in common was that they were young men really on
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 6: the verge of making it in life. They had aspirations,
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 6: they had dreams, they had talents, and in their own
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 6: different ways, they were really extraordinary human beings.