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09/26/2023 580 Live with Dave Allen - Casey Brown, Kevin Pauley, Eric Tarr, Adam Harris · The Dave Allen Show

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Pinnacle Consultants one of the fine companies that makes this this show possible each Monday
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through Friday. And I'll be honest with you, until they started sponsoring the
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show, I knew very little about asbestos or mold or any of the other
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things that they specialize in getting rid of. But I've actually learned a lot
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in the last few months from them by talking about him every day. Casey
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Brown and Greg Paul for Pinnacle join us right now. We'll start with you.
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Greg, good morning, Welcome to the show. How are you.
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I'm good, Dave, good to be here. Thank you having us someone
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here, appreciate thank you for being here. And Casey on the show today
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as well. All Right, get okay, now we get your microphone going
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there. Tell me a little bit. Let me start Greg. Let's start
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with you. Tell me a little bit about you. Oh, just a
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little bit of a No. I've been in the industry now for thirty plus
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years. As far as dealing with asbestos, lead based paint, mold,
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indoor air quality, that type of thing, and gosh, like I said,
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been more more than my fair sheriff, I've seen everything around as far
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as that. How did you get into this business? I started in this
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many many years ago by starting out doing the analytical part of asbestos. I'm
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learning how to analyze the samples, determine whether or not a mature contain's asbestos,
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how to determine whether or not there's asbestos in the air or anything like
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that, and kind of progressed my way up through to doing this through the
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remediation process, and then back over into consulting again. Okay, see,
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let's talk about you. How did you get into this? And give us
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a little buy on you. I've been in this about twenty years now,
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so I'm a little less than what Greg's been. I basically got in,
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like I was telling you earlier in the Yellow Pages, found an ad and
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got hired on by an asbestos lab that I actually Greg had worked prior to.
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And actually I've been with Pinnacle for roughly over twenty years now, so
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it's it's been a good thing and educational thing, and I've I've learned a
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lot in the twenty years i've been and both of you guys are are local.
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Yes, you're a dot yep, Polka dot and you are from the
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few areas great stadium up there by the way. Oh it's beautiful, it
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is it is indeed, So talk about this company, Pinnacle Consultants, and
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Greg will talk with you. You hear me the listeners here we talking about
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every day about what it is actually that you do. But you guys own
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the local franchise on this is that right? Yeah, we we own Pinnacle
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on Consultants. We used to be part of another company, but we bought
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the local branch here in twenty nineteen. We do. We say we're environmental
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consultants, but we focus primarily, as the ads and everything have said,
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on asbestos, lead based paint indoor air quality. We have the only certified
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an accredited lab in West Virginia for asbestos that is National Voluntary Laboratory Accreditation Program
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approved, which means we're the only ones in the state that can analyze samples
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for schools, which is a requirement. We also have the only of course
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this is more Casey's fourteen than mine, but we have the only mold lab
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that's accredited in West Virginia also, but we go out in the field,
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and we take samples and do investigations in houses and everything for prior to renovations,
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prior to demolitions, to make sure that whether or not there's asbestos there
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or anything else that could be harmful. And guys, as I sat at
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the top of the show, I knew next to nothing about this subject.
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Well I started talking about it for your company and you became a sponsor of
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the show. And I'm certainly no expert on it now, but I have
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learned a lot. What are a couple of the things that people don't know
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about asbestos and mold and such. Probably the key day for asbestos says it's
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still around a lot of people feel like I said, I think it's something
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for forty years and it's like, oh, asbestus is, it's not a
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thing anymore. We're unfortunately Canada, some overseas countries and stuff still actually mine
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it. They don't know it for fun. It's got to be for some
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type of things. So the biggest thing is the exposure to this and the
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illness. I mean, nine eleven was a horrible thing, and that that
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was a big thing with asbestos during that time, because the towers were actually
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insulated with with a lot of asbestos, so it's it's part of a long
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term exposure moments. When it comes to the to the illnesses mesotheliomi, you
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see it on TV a lot, not as much as you used to,
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but there's other diseases asbestosis, lung cancers can be directed towards the asbestos exposure.
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So the mold is more of a cute issue with people with allergies and
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things of that nature. So it's it's two different variables in the environmental world,
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but but one's been around for a long time and it doesn't seem to
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be going away either. So I mean, the mold issue is one that
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I think because most people in their homes will probably think, well, I
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don't have asbestos, but mold is a major issue. Yes, yeah,
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yeah, it's definitely something that we get calls for every day, residential,
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commercial and dust show. It's just an issue, and unfortunately there's not a
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lot of regulations in regards to mold. There's some standards and Greg can kind
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of speak to those, But when it comes to mold, you're basically testing
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the outside air versus the inside air of the structure, and you're compared to
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us and sometimes Again, there's so many different things that you guys include in
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your copy points that I talk about. One of those is is that sometimes
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the air that you're breathing indoors is much more harmful than the air that you're
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breathing outdoors. Correct, I mean, you're you're cooped up inside, all
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right, So you're cooking, so all the everything is you're cooking, all
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those fumes or vapors and everything is all coming up into the air and everything
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like that. We don't get We started in the seventies. They started,
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Hey, the best thing that we think we should do for a house or
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for a building is to make it air tight. That's actually the worst thing
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we can do. We need these buildings to breathe so that you're getting fresh
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air into the house and circulating it around and everything. So that was actually
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one of the worst things that they did back then, was that we started
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seeing a lot of sick building syndromes and stuff in the seventies, the eighties
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and to that area after that after they started making these buildings air tight.
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So now they've started going away from that and not making him quite as airtight,
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but at least making sure that we could bring in plenty of fresh air
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for everybody and circulated around again. We're talking with Casey Brown and Greg Polly
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from Pinnacle Consultants this morning. One of the other taglines that you lose that
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you use guys, that I think is really good is what you don't know
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can hurt you. And a lot of times you people just don't think about
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it because you don't you don't see it. You know, you see a
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loose board on your deck. You know, you see that the walls need
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painted, whatever, but you just don't see these and so what you don't
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know can hurt you. Absolutely, you don't think about it. As one
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of the reasons we started doing this was to help educate the public and everything,
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and because we see samples and people going out and doing renovations and everything
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all the time and they don't understand that there's actually a requirement. There's a
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regulation out there that says that before you do any renovation, before you do
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any demolition, you must test that material for asbestos. Regardless of age.
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It doesn't matter if it was built yesterday before you disturb it, you still
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have to test it. Because you can still fund products of haf asbestos in
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it. It's not banned. It's Casey said. Everybody thinks that's band,
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but it's not. It's not. It's still coming in from these other countries.
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It's still out there, still being imported, still being manufactured. Indeed,
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it's and it can be kind of kind of scary stuff because again,
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what you don't know to use your line and what you don't know can hurt
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you. What does your business footprint look like? What I mean, how
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far out do you guys go or I mean, you were telling me about
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your schedule before we went on the air today, and I thought I had
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a rough schedule. But I think I think you have won a better batters
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mine. I'm gonna be doing a little traveling today. Yes, we cover
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West Virginia, Ohio, Kentucky and Virginia's primarily what we come and who are
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the who is the average customer? I mean, what do you see more
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than anything else? Who's the person that calls your fun? I think it's
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the school system's day. I mean, because schools are actually regulated by what's
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called the HERA, the Asbestos Hazard Emergency Response Act, and it basically forces
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schools to make sure they know where their asbestos is if they manage it place
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properly. Asbestos isn't dangerous until you disturb it, right, That's the key.
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Because I lived in the house prior to the one I live in now
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and there was asbestos floor tile under the carpet, I had no concerns.
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And if you live in an older house, that's probably the case. There's
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the case. Yeah, But as long as you don't disturb it, then
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typically it's it's the best play. But we always recommend that they do removal
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if they can afford It's it's not a cheap thing. You know. There's
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there's very few people out there that do the actual removal. We don't.
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We can recommend some people, but how many people in the state actually actually
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do it. Off the top of your head, I'd say they've probably what
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a dozen people maybe that are located in the state. Yeah, I mean,
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because sometimes you probably have to bring them in from out of state.
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I would think absolutely, there's several contractors that are out of state that come
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in state. There's national contractors. There are some real big ones out there
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that that cover you know, the whole United States as far as it is.
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So there's multiple contractors out there, but as far as it's based in
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West Virginia, gosh, I don't. I'd have to look at them.
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Well, you get and we do want to make sure that we have a
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distinction if you guys don't actually do the removal yourself, you're just the folks
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that come out to take a look at these particular it says, and I
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mentioned I was talking about Herbert Hoover High School earlier. When you're part of
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the world, when you see these new buildings going up, whether it's a
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school or whether it's an office building or a mall or whatever happens to be
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going up, I would imagine they've got all of the modern day education to
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know when they go in. Okay, let's don't do this. I mean
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one would hope anyway. Well, yes, they've got the education and a
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lot of these the school systems in particular, they're really good because they put
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out things in their contracts and stuff that says, hey, you cannot use
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anything with asbestos in our buildings and stuff like that. But to catch twenty
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two with schools is they still have to presume everything is asbestos, whether it
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is or until they test it and prove that it's not. They still have
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that responsibility of presuming it is. Okay, and you guys are hiring as
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I understand as that right, we are. Yeah, we're looking for trying
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to find a couple of people that does involve travel, that is for sure,
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because like I told you, I'm heading from here to Huntington, up
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to bellpri Ohio, and then from there probably down to Parkersburg and a couple
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other spots in between. So it does require some traveling though, Okay,
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And so what are the what kind of qualifications are you looking for if you
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hire somebody other than the ability to be able to travel? We you know,
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high school education, you know, we we provide all the additional training
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and stuff. If you've got college education, that's a put bonus for us
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as far as that goes must be now, I mean, obviously got the
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eighteen, can be licensed or anything unless you're eighteen to stay to do any
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of this stuff. But for the most part, we just look for somebody
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living and breathing in nowadays. That's that's start and a pulse and working people.
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If they're interested, can they just email you, go to your website,
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to a website, and that's Pinnacle Corp. Dot net. Yes,
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it is Pinnacle Corp dot net. Yeah, there is a link down there
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for info. You can just click on the info email and just send us
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an email and we'll get back to you and send us your resume if you
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want, and we'll get right back to you. All Right, somebody's listening
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to us right now and they are in need of your service as business owner,
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homeowner or whatever. They just reach out to the web. Because I
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keep pushing the website every day on the show. But they can, they
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can call you and go the website whatever. So if you've got questions,
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I mean better safety. Sorry, I mean, according to the statistics,
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you spend ninety percent of your time indoors, some of us more than others,
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but you spend ninety percent of your time indoors, and the risk for
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air pollution and sicknesses and problems is actually a whole lot worse indoors than outdoors.
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Absolutely, And yes, I mean they can go to the website.
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They can give us a call. The number is three or four seven five
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seven five two zero four, So they can give us a call, ask
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for me or casey, and we'll get with them. If we're not in
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there forwards to our cell phones. All right and again the website is Pinnacle
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Corp. Done. Hey, guys, has been a pleasure of getting to
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know both of you and have you on the show today. Appreciate you and
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go check out the website or give them a call and make sure that you're
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safe. I appreciate you guys for being here. Thanks a lot. Thank
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you, Dave. We appreciate you. We're gonna take a break when we
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is here. Good morning, sir. I'm not going to ask you about
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asbestos or mold. Oh well, I appreciate thank you for being here today.
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Happy to be here. These guys are great man Pinnacles consultants. I
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mean, they really really are. If you get a chance in any of
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your businesses and you ever need I'm networking here, Eric, So it's we've
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had to do that. We've had issues and we went and bought properties and
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had to get rid of both asbestos and uh mold. So yeah, it
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just happens. Yeah, it just happens. It doesn't matter how much you
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spend for the property either. Sometimes it happens. Senator you uh it made
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quite a splash with your press release last week that you are endorsing current Congressman
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Alex Mooney and the Senate battle against current Western you governor gym Justice. Pretty
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pretty scathing press release. It was picked up nationally by people saying that you
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know, this is how this race is going to turn out in West Virginia.
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It's going to be a nasty one. Why didn't you feel, Eric,
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that it was important to get that endorsement out there, And what in
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the heck do you have against the governor? Well, I tell you what.
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The first thing is. The reason it's important to get it out there
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is that there's three races. Really they're going to swing the US Senate and
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the country is in a terrible direction away it's been going with current leadership the
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Senate's really not showed a backbone to come up and move conservative policies that help
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our families, that help our our security, with our finances, because with
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inflation going out to reach uncontrolled spending, there's just a lot of stuff that's
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been happening up on the Senate side that has been detrimental as a whole to
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the country and certainly to West Virginia so on. But but the Gym Justice
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is a Republican. He's going to take care of that right well. And
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that's the point of the endorsement letter, you know, is to show that
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that's not the case. And I get to see that from the inside,
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and the public doesn't get to see it. What they get to see is
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the marketing that goes out on the political stuff. When he says I'm not
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a politician, when he's being the epitome of a politician making a seal on
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lack of values. That the back up what his message is. And so
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that's what the endorsement letter is about, is that we need to pull the
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US Senate to the right. And so we have three really three sentate races
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that give us an opportunity to do that. That's West Virginia High and Wisconsin
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have those seats coming up that are really going to matter. Like we've been
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able to pull the House of Representatives to the right, and you see that
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struggle where they're going through and they're starting to slow down a lot of this
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just socialist Marxist policy that had been coming across the country. And we've done
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that by moving the House of the House of Representatives to the right. The
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Senate also has to go the right. And the problem is, and the
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opportunity is. The problem is is that I think that a lot of people
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because based on the success of West Virginia, which has been ninety nine percent
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driven by a legislative policy, not this governor. It's been done in spite
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of this governor, has they that's mistaken for good conservative governor And that's not
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the case. What the reality is is Alex Mooney is the conservative in this
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race. And if we don't put a conservative like Alex Mooney in the Senate,
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then then we've lost an opportunity to move the US Senate to the right.
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And so you know, and the reason Mitch McConnell is recruiting Jim Justice
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is because he's a vote for Mitch McConnell for Senate president. That's just the
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way these things work. You know, when you go in and you start
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establishing recruiting candidates for whether it's at a state level, where it's at a
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Senate level or a US level, it's all about who gets that controlling power.
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Now, one's a party controlling power, and that's that's one thing.
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Another thing is is who within that party is actually has control of that caucus.
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And Mitch McConnell has not been the diehard conservative that we need in this
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country right now. And so in Joe Justice's administration, he has enough set
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in negotiations at very high level negotiations with the Senate President, with the Speaker
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of the House, and the person that comes in and sits in a governor's
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seat to meant to go in and moderate that negotiation without the governor. President
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is Puccio. Larry Puccio. Larry Puccio, chief of staff for Joe Manchin.
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He is Joe Manchin's right hand. And that's the reason I said,
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you know this, essentially we have a stand in for Joe Manchin right now
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that goes up and it's just another Joe mentioned the Senate. And that does
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not pull the U s centate right? Does it bother you? Again,
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we're talking to sent financial Eric tar and five that hell, does it bother
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you that the polls have Governor Justice favored so heavily, I mean way heavily
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against against Alex Mooney at this point, you know, it bothers me that
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that people haven't been able to see through to what this man really is as
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a governor. And I think and that's and I think it's it's understandable because
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West Virginia's been doing incredible I mean, we really have. If you just
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look at what's been happening with West Virginia, the things we've moved off the
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bottom of the wrong for from forty nine and fiftieth and so. But this
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again, this just comes from the ideas and the work of the legislature,
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not because of this governor, but in spite of this governor. You know,
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we've went this past year. We've had the record invest private investment.
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We had six billion dollars in twenty twenty two investment. In the previous four
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years we had a six billion dollars total, and that was a record for
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West Virginia. We had We've added one hundred twenty five thousand jobs over the
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past five years. I expect to take that back past three years. We
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have the fifth best funded pension in the country. We have the eighth it's
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seventh or eighth best funded rainy day fund in the country. If you look
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at the GDP growth, West Virginia has the second fastest growing GDP in the
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country. And if you look at wage growth we have I think it's the
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sixth fastest wage growth in the country. And those are at fifteen point two
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percent. They're not small numbers. There are enormous numbers. Uh, it's
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there's there's stat after stat after stat after stat like that that's happened in West
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Virginia and people feel it, and I thank god that we get to enjoy
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that. But that has come from legislation that started in twenty fifteen, and
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it has been a tooth and nil fight to get that kind of stuff done
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against this governor. He came in one of a four hundred fifty million dollar
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tax increase when he stepped in as governor and he wanted to increase spending.
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He put a pile of kalmaneure on a budget that controlled spending, but literally
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in the Capitol Dome that controlled spending by four hundred and fifty million dollars.
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That has put us in this position. We've had flat budgets for four years
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in a row that are generated about six hundred million dollars ongoing that allowed us
22:36
to produce this the largest tax cut in history of West Virginia. So those
22:40
those things didn't come from Jym Justice. They came us, tripping over every
22:42
trip wire he put out there to try to get there. And but but
22:45
you know, if you if you don't pay close attention to politics, if
22:48
you're really not on that dome, you really don't see what's happening, then
22:51
you think that that well, you know, the guy at the helm is
22:52
Jym Justice. This is because of him, and that's I think where a
22:56
whole lot of that polling comes from is that. And it's understandable. But
23:00
if you ask anybodies around close to that dome that has the intestinal fort or
23:03
two to tell you, because you're talking about a governor here, they know
23:07
the stuff that I put in that letter is absolutely honest to god fact.
23:11
Well, on this very show last week, the chair of the Democratic Party,
23:14
Mike Pushkin said, I agree with Eric tar that's rare. I'd like
23:18
to have that in a promo for it. And he didn't say that because
23:22
that came out at about the same time. But I had Pushkin on the
23:25
show last week and I actually read it on the air. I don't even
23:27
think that I don't even think it had gone out to the public yet.
23:30
And I actually read it on the air and he said, I agree with
23:33
him. This is the state Democratic Party chair and delegate for this area and
23:38
it is agreeing with you on this. Yeah. And it's a very rare
23:41
occasion that you'll see the head of the state Democrat party agree with me.
23:45
That's that's that's for sure. And so it always makes one thing, Yeah,
23:49
just one thing, Just one thing. And the reality is, you
23:52
know, when it comes down to it, there's a lot of things that
23:53
both parties agree on. The come through West Virginia. You know, it's
23:56
it's a great majority of things because the majority of the legislation and that passes
24:00
through Eric, can you know this, The majority of it is bipartisan,
24:03
the great majority of the five Democrats that are there. Yeah, yeah,
24:07
it is. And you know, it's it's just and that's the case,
24:08
and so the stuff that comes down that is more ideological and philosophical along the
24:14
party lines, which that's nowhere near the majority of legislation. It's a great
24:17
minority of legislation. That's where the stuff really hits the headlines. Yeah,
24:21
well, and that's the sexy stuff. So that's what makes the headline.
24:23
Uh, is your endorsement of Alex Mooney, UH Senator an endorsement of him
24:30
more of a strike against Jim Justice or a little of both. It's a
24:34
little of both. You know, Alex want you get. You get what
24:37
you see with Alex. And this is a difference between having a marketer for
24:42
a US senator versus having a pragmatist as a US Senator with Alex Mooney,
24:51
when you know, I've got to know Alex pretty well over campaign trails.
24:53
I've went door to door with Alex when I was when I was campaigning myself.
24:56
We went through in down in Putnam County. We knocked doors together when
25:00
we're both on the ticket at the same time. So I got to know
25:03
him really well walking streets of Hurricane and Tay's Valley and all those areas,
25:07
going door to door, just talking and looking at also what he does in
25:11
the House of Representatives. He stands for family values, he stands for controlled
25:17
spending, he stands up when he's going to take a hit for doing it,
25:22
and we just have not seen that in that aggressive representation into you a
25:29
Senate and you know those that know me in the state Senate. No,
25:33
there's a lot of similar characteristics there when it comes to that is that I'll
25:37
tell you what I think and then I'll advocate the way I told you,
25:41
and I'll vote the way I told you. And that's what That's what I've
25:44
seen with Alex Mooney. So it's definitely an endorsement for Alex Mooney. And
25:48
what people need to know when you show up in this Republican primary, the
25:51
person that wins this Republican primary will be your next US Senator, and you
25:56
have to think about what's happening nationally in this case. In this case,
26:00
the US Senate has to move right. Jim Justice pulls it left. He
26:06
pulls it left. If if if Mitch McConnell wants Jim Justice, Chuck Schumer
26:10
definitely wants wants Jim Justice, and that just goes through because you know Joe's
26:15
guys or Chuck's guys and Joe is a tool of Chuck Schumer. And then
26:21
Joe's guys are in there running the governor show. So it's we're not changing
26:29
for the better, we're changing for we're either the same or worse if you
26:32
put Jim Justice in that seat. So there's a there's a strong lack of
26:36
endorsement actually whatever the antagonist is that endorsement for Gym Justice. But there's also
26:41
I'm really thank god we got a candidate that's juxtaposed to him, like Alex
26:45
Mooney, and so I know, I hope people play real close attention to
26:49
what's happening in nashally and what they want to see for our nation when they
26:53
choose at West Virginia US senter. And you know, we are still the
26:56
listeners, Eric hear me say this every day. We are still way early
27:00
in this campaign, all campaigns for that matter, not just this one.
27:04
And you are going to see a whole lot of money coming to West Virginia.
27:10
You're going to see a whole lot of ads to radio, television,
27:12
internet, newspaper that are going to come out that are going to get involved
27:15
in this race. She mentions one of the two or three swing racists.
27:19
It really is, I mean, knock out a couple texts here, because
27:22
you're always good about asking or answering tex Tex, says Ascary Tar. Why
27:26
he overlooks Alex Money's Office of Congressional Ethics Investigation finding probable cause that that Mooney
27:33
misappropriated campaign and taxpayer money. You know, I don't know how the US
27:37
sent and Investigations works with the Ethics Committee, but I do know how it
27:41
works at the state levels. So this has been my experience with the Ethics
27:44
Committee to the state level, is that we have brought issues directly to the
27:47
Ethics Committee in front of the Finance Committee and has went nowhere because the Ethics
27:51
Committee is appointed by the governor. And so you have one of the most
27:55
conservative delegates in the House, representative representatives in the House, Representative Mooney,
28:00
under a Democrat party leadership, whose Ethics Committee comes into attack Alex Mooney.
28:06
Well, of course, So I mean it's just I expect it. I
28:08
expect it not because of Alex. I expect it because of who's in leadership
28:12
within the House. Represent us Tech, says Astar. If he can name
28:17
one thing that Mooney has done for the state. He voted against every bill
28:18
in Congress that's bringing jobs to the state. And they went on to say
28:23
that you're a little too radical, but we're not here to talk about you
28:26
necessarily, but but go ahead. You know. That's and sometimes I'm I'm
28:32
complimented by somebody call me a little too radical, because usually that's to me,
28:34
that's the too far left that's calling me that. So but as far
28:38
as what things that he's done for the state specifically, one of the things
28:45
is is that he's given us the opportunity to move the US Senate to the
28:49
right. That is it. It's either we're gonna send somebody up that either
28:52
moves the US Senate to their right or gonna send somebody that moves it to
28:56
the left. With Alex Mooney, we send it to the right. With
28:59
Jim Justice, we send it to the left. So what do you want
29:00
for your country? That's the question. So if you also look at what
29:06
comes back to West Virginia in a lot of this incredible spending, I'll tell
29:10
you what didn't happen with the Infrastructure Infrastructure Reduction or Inflation Reduction Act by parts
29:15
infrastructure, we had what should have been the most influential person in the country
29:22
at the time, which would have been Joe Manchin, who's pivotal there.
29:26
Because of the numbers in the Senate, which will change not getting West Virginia,
29:33
it's fair share by anywhere close. Okay, So let's say, if
29:37
you've got that kind of leverage, the relative number that we've got in those
29:40
dollars relative to any other state in the country is infamitesimal. Now it's choose
29:44
for West Virginia. It's it's like a starving guy getting a piece of bread
29:47
only his plate. My gosh, thank you, thank you, thank you,
29:48
thank you, But you don't realize there's a whole grocery store sitting outside
29:52
the door. That's what we got out of it. So the second thing
29:56
is is that what we also got as a nation is you got your dollar
30:00
worth twenty cents less than it was a couple of years ago, just two
30:03
years ago. You know. So if go out and buy eggs, buy
30:07
milk, buy gas, go buy anything to build a house with, and
30:11
see what inflation looks like. And that's because of that extraordinary spending. And
30:17
what Alex Mooney has done is he's fought that and it's there's no end in
30:21
sight at this point for that level of inflation, and Alex Mooney and a
30:25
lot of the guys like him out there fighting, fighting, fighting that.
30:26
So we have to have that conservative majority that allowed West Virginia to enjoy what
30:32
it has in spite of all that, with the policies we've stood up in
30:36
place that got us to all those rankings that's talking about, and many many
30:38
more that have happened along the way. Text says Dave. Mister char is
30:42
right, no more justice for West Virginia's as a Texter. Eric, do
30:47
others, or do a significant amount of others within the Republican Party in West
30:51
Virginia share your disdain for this governor? I would say there's a you know,
30:56
disdain is this thing? Maybe a word that's probably correct for me because
31:02
I've seen what he is at a personal level, you know. So,
31:06
But as far as an incredible disappointment and angry with what he's brought to that
31:12
or hasn't brought this case may be, to the governor's office. Yeah,
31:17
there's people very high in the Republican leadership of this state that are just dismayed
31:23
that there's this much popularity still. You are you concerned. Last week the
31:29
news came out about this new group I delegate to Foster out of Putnam County,
31:34
my home and your home. You know, it was talking about this
31:37
this new group, Freedom Coalition, Freeddom Coquetarre. And I bring that up
31:41
to say this, are you concerned that with that and then maybe a very
31:47
very bitter Senate race, perhaps also a governor's race that could hasn't yet but
31:52
could possibly, and some of the other races as well, does that concern
31:56
you that that the Republican Party would in fact on West Virginia at some point
31:59
be eating its own now And no, no, not at all. This
32:01
is you know, there's always there's always going to be debate within any party.
32:08
So you've got and because you've got Senate districts that are so extremely different
32:12
from across this state. You've got some like like mine it's a very conservative
32:15
district. You have others it's like here in Charleston that's not going to be
32:20
quite so conservative. So that creates some disagreement just because of who those people
32:22
sin to the Senate. But beyond that is that it's very different from what
32:28
you're hearing for the Freedom Caucus within the US the US House of Representatives as
32:31
compared to what's being stood up here, and it's very different from what's being
32:35
stood up in the House of Delegates here in West Virginia's compared to the part
32:37
that's from the Senate. The part that's from the Senate is largely led by
32:40
Patricia Rucker and Robert Carnes and so, and they have been really disappointed with
32:46
the level of influence that they can garner within the Senate, and they have
32:52
been undermining any conservative effort because if they attach their name to it, just
32:58
about everybody in that caucus knows they need to avoid it, even if it's
33:01
a good policy, because you don't want to be associated with those individuals at
33:05
this point. And so what'll happen is is the same thing that happened in
33:07
the Senate president race when Patricia Rocket, under Robert Carne's advice, challenged President
33:15
Craig I'm sorry, drew your little brain fart there. Challenge Craig Blair,
33:19
is that by the time you actually when the rubber hit the road, there
33:22
was nobody there. You know, you came out. It was a unanimous
33:24
vote for President Craig Blair for the president. Senate and that's what'll happen with
33:29
this too. It'll fizzle out. It's it's something to grab a little media
33:32
attention. They've done a good job getting that, But this has no comparison
33:36
whatsoever to what happens in the US. Has before we let you go,
33:38
Seni Financier Eric Kuttar, the governor's financial information came out yesterday, one hundred
33:45
and thirty four days late, I think, but but but it was able
33:50
to get out there. Brad mcahannick breaks it all down and a very good,
33:52
very detailed story at wv metro news dot com. He'll be on with
33:57
Hoppy to talk about it later. I'll be on this show tomorrow to talk
33:59
about it. As a numbers guy that you are, did you get a
34:01
chance to look at the governors set financials? Did you have any comments?
34:05
I know I did, and it was it was I think a tweet he
34:07
put out that I looked at. Just go and get that reference and go
34:09
see those financials. Then there's two things that really stand out to me that
34:13
I think that are worth asking about. One is two personal loansome break carey
34:16
you have you have that are over a million dollars apparently somewhere between one and
34:20
five million dollars that you have somebody who loaned him personally at a ten percent
34:27
interest rate money for whatever. We have no idea what those loans are for.
34:30
And then it happened immediately after he left the governor's office and went to
34:34
be on the board of governors with the Western University. The second thing that
34:37
is very curious to me in relationship to having almost no income reported from him
34:43
for him personally out of all these assets, is that there's a lot of
34:47
personal line of credits from those assets to gym Justice as zero percent interest rate
34:53
with payment on demand. So I think that it may be that's probably where
35:00
to me if I'm looking at those and just and I think, I think
35:02
it's very questionable to me on so what happens with that personal line of credit
35:07
from your business to you with zero percent interests that is just payable on demand
35:13
on a company that you control. So let's worth asking some questions about the
35:17
financi Sherry Tar, It's always a pleasure to have you on the show.
35:21
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is right, and it's tragic that the good people of West Virginia are being
38:00
fooled by Jim Justice, just like they were fooled by Joe Mansion. Text
38:07
says fifty five point two percent workforce participation in West Virginia currently population to clibe
38:12
by ninety thousands since Republicans took control of a legislature in twenty thirteen, ninety
38:16
percent of healthcare in state paid by Medicare Medicaid for pei A, according to
38:22
a texture Lifestyle Providers as a texture by Cabinet Secretary Dave Hardy last week,
38:28
text says the Office of Congressional Ethics is by partisan and impartial. The House
38:32
was run by Republicans. Every one in Congress, including the Ault right,
38:36
excepts the office. It's too bad that Tar doesn't care that Morrissey was caught.
38:42
I'm sorry not Morrissey. Mooney was caught red handed and had to repay
38:45
the money he misappropriated. What does that say about Tar's judgment? According to
38:50
a texture, never questioned this guy's judgment on anything, well, maybe a
38:54
couple of things. Adam Harris from Mountain State, right now, how are
38:58
you, sir. I'm doing a good day. Thank you for having me
39:00
in. Good morning, fresh out of Tennessee. Man. Yeah, we
39:02
just got back from doing two mountain stages downe in Franklin. That's outside in
39:07
Nashville. It is. Yeah, just a little south of nash You have
39:08
on the buill down there, Man, it was great. The first night
39:10
we had Steve Earle, the guy I know you know a thing or two
39:13
about it has been on the show. Actually, Elizabeth Cook, two XM
39:19
radio hosts. You had Elizabeth Cook on the show. Elizabeth Cook is one
39:22
of my favorite people in the world. Why why did I not get an
39:24
invite to take this road trip? She's the cutest and the best man she
39:29
is. I love an iconoclassed and I love that about her. I got
39:31
a fishing show now, Elizabeth Kuttle. I saw some of it. She
39:35
had our boy mcfolio on there. Well, she has a drinking show that
39:37
happens to fish. That's what That's what I saw one time with they can't
39:42
advertise a drinking show. Yeah you can have some beer. Has a drinking
39:45
show that well, they were drinking Jack Daniels. I think it was the
39:49
show I saw. But anyways, I'm sorry. I got a little fanboy
39:52
there, Elizabeth Cook. Yeah. Well, when we had Jason isabel on
39:53
the next night, which was really cool and he was hot off the road
39:57
man. He did Healing Appalachia on Friday night, I understand, and he
40:00
flew to New York to do some press stuff and got right off the plane
40:02
and came to the Franklin to do Mountain Stage with us, which was really
40:06
cool and had two sold out shows down there. It was really really Wait
40:09
a minute, now, okay, hold on. You had Isabelle, uh
40:12
huh, Elizabeth Cook and Steve Earle all down there at one time, well
40:17
on two different nights, but yes, yeah, yeah, absolutely a ton
40:20
of talent, man, and with the big West Virginia Mountain Stage logo promoting
40:24
this, definitely that is pretty cool stuff. Thank you, yeah, cool
40:27
man. And we got a great a lot of great interest. We had
40:30
people in the audience who have been to West Virginia for the show before,
40:32
and then of course we encouraged everybody to we always say follow us on social
40:36
media, but even better if you'll follow us back to West Virginia. You
40:38
can't see a show, you spend some money while so what are you get
40:43
going on? Now? So? Wow, We're right back at it tomorrow
40:45
night at JQ. Dickinson Sault. We're having a fundraising event for Mountain Stage.
40:50
And yeah, of course Mountain Stage does get some state funding for sure,
40:52
and we have private underwriters and companies and grant money that funds Mountain Stage
40:57
and a certain amount of ticket sales. But the one thing we don't have
41:00
built in our budget is equipment upgrades, you know. And we're working on
41:04
consoles right now that we're new and fresh instead of the art in two thousand
41:07
and nine and which may as well be nineteen twenty nine in a way in
41:12
that world for sure, and thankfully everything's working great right now, but we
41:15
have to get upgraded in order just to keep things congruent with what's going on
41:19
technology wise, and certain things are no longer being updated, you know,
41:22
some things you can't get even get repaired anymore. And so just to make
41:24
sure that we're giving the highest quality broadcasts and live performances both to ticket holders
41:30
and to radio listeners, we're working on building some funds up to help us
41:34
upgrade our consoles and get new cases for those consoles, and basically upgrade the
41:37
entire inner working system of how we record and broadcast Mountain Stage and so we're
41:42
having a fundraising dinner tomorrow night at JQ Dickinson, Salt and Malden, a
41:46
beautiful outdoor setting. We are going with our rain plan. I think the
41:50
weather is going to be perfect still, but we're going to be undercover.
41:52
Plenty of room underneath there and we're going to utilize the house inside as well.
41:57
And there's only less than ten tickets available a visit Mountain Stage dot org.
42:01
Now, when he says that there's less than ten tickets, he means
42:05
ten as and not you know, five hundred ten. He means there's less
42:07
as we speak right now, when he walked through the studio, less than
42:10
ten tickets are available, that's right, And we'll only have so much food.
42:14
So that's basically what it's based on is how many heads we have to
42:16
feed here, and so less than ten tickets available. It is one hundred
42:20
and fifty dollars ticket, which I think for the catering we're getting from ten
42:23
ten bridge plus a chance to mingle a little bit with Larry Gross and Kathy
42:28
Mattea and some great live music. And we're gonna have some really cool auction
42:30
items as well for folks who want to give even more and I know we're
42:35
gonna have a great turnout. And if anyone who wants to join us,
42:37
you can check out Mountain Stage dot org. Their tickets are available via event
42:39
bright and then show up to Malden tomorrow night six to nine. We're gonna
42:44
have cocktails and orders from six to seven and then we're gonna have dinner and
42:49
a little bit of entertainment starting at seven pm from the Jesse Millins Band,
42:52
who are some of the people to be playing there. Yeah, Jesse Mills
42:55
is the son of Jerry Mills and is a wonderful well known musician up in
42:59
the Elk area. His wife, Emily Miller, runs the Augusta Heritage Center
43:04
up at Davis and Elkins College and so she's the artistic director there of the
43:07
Augusta Workshops. And so Jesse and Emily have a honky tonk band called the
43:12
Jesse Millins Band, So they're coming down and then the openers, or rather
43:15
for cocktaile, we're gonna have some old time music from Tessa Dylon who's won
43:20
multiple awards over at Vandelia and also at Cliff Top and Chance McCoy, who
43:23
most recently was a member of Old Crow Medicine show. Him and Tessa are
43:28
an item in life and on stage and they do an old time duo thing
43:30
together. And I think they're going to set in with the Jesse Millins Band
43:34
too. So just like Mountain Stage, you know, a lot of collaborative,
43:36
a lot of fun music jam session going on, no doubt, no
43:37
doubt. It's gonna be fun. And we've got a couple of musical numbers
43:42
lined up to pay tribute to a few of our special guests that are going
43:45
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Charleston. Is anybody that's going to be there tomorrow night currently dating Taylor Swift
44:15
because that seems to be all anybody cares about dominating. I'd like to announce
44:20
and I did this on social media earlier, I am now dating Taylor Swift.
44:23
No way, I'm dating Taylor Swift. Uh And and I say that
44:28
because I have My jerseys are now available for sale through my buddy Steve Annibal
44:32
at East Coast Teas and Dana Daves in Logan, West Virginia. Nice lady
44:38
out in Tay Valley thinks about your new Well, yeah I haven't. I
44:42
haven't told Ruthan yet. But but but for that much money, I don't
44:45
think she'd care. Because Travis Kelsey's jersey's went up four hundred percent in sales
44:51
yesterday because he's dating Taylor Swift. So I'm asking every I should have asked
44:54
Eric Tarr should have asked the GA, is anybody dating Taylor? If not,
44:59
you need start dating to get somebody in the legislature, especially get some
45:01
chances of getting a Taylor Swift and Mountain stage. Oh well maybe ten fifteen
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years from now, baby our ten or fifteen years ago? No, not
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even close. You know, there was a couple I talked. I met
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with my friend Vaughan down in Nashville and he had been to Los Angeles to
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see the t Swift show. He went and it was amazing. It was
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eye opening for him. But he loves Taylor Swift. I just had to
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throw that in there because it seems to be that's whatever. We have a
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government shutdown possibly coming this weekend. We've got all these problems, you know,
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going on, but what's dominating everything right now, he's Taylor Swift and
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Travis l put that as the headline of this podcast. Adam and Dave talk
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Taylor Swift. Ye do that right. If you don't care to play fifty,
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we'll put that out there all right, give us all of the tails
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again. About the big event tomorrow, Thanks again, Dave. We're having
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a fundraising event for a mountain Stage help us upgrade some important broadcast equipment at
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JQ Dickinson Salt beautiful setting there in Malden, West Virginia, just outside of
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Charleston. Fundraising dinner catered by ten ten Bridge, music by Jesse Milln's band,
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and also Tessa Dylan and Chance McCoy and Kathy Mattea and Larry Gross are
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going to be in the house as well as the Mountain Stage band to mingle
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with you. And we've got some special auction items as well. And most
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importantly we're just gonna have a whole lot of fun. And that's tomorrow night
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starts at six o'clock at JQUD. But you better get those tickets because there's
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less than ten events right There was eight available when I walked into the studio
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this morning, Dave. Hopefully we're selling them as we speak. Thank you
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so, Adam Harris from Mountain Stage. I always appreciate you being here.
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asking him to explain why this Mooney's spending is so good. Hey, Dave
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didn't touch on Muter Tar's body shaming our governor twice last week on Hoppy.
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He's a bit of a little man. It's a text. I mentioned this
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earlier again during the interview with Senator Tar. The governor's financial disclosures are out,
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and again, as I mentioned, they're not good. Well, it's
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still better than mine, but I think I have a lot less debt.
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Brad has it all laid out at WV metronews dot com and again a programming
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note, Brad will beyond with Hoppy today and with me tomorrow to talk about
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the Governor's finances or perhaps lack of. According to Brad, the report was
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one hundred and thirty four days late, and he had he gone any longer,
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as best I understand it, there wouldn't have been a two hundred dollars
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a day five that would have kicked in. I myself will spare you all
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the numbers again. You can read them for yourself and Brad's story WV metronews
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dot com and Brad will beyond with Hoppy on talk line to talk about it
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later this morning and with me tomorrow. Further programming note, I told you
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yesterday about this effort to institute what is known as PODA in the city of
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Charleston. It's a public outdoor drinking area. This has gone on. Huntington
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just passed it. It's happening in other cities. I saw it in areas
51:07
around Columbus, Ohio, Maria to Ohio as well. Basically, it would
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allow people with the purchase of a certain designated cup to be able to drink
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in certain areas of Charleston. Again, you can't walk down the street.
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Get that smile off your face, Ryan, You can't walk down the street
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with your bottle of jim Beam or with your bud light. Well, okay,
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never mind, nobody buy his bud light anymore or that you can't do
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that. But it would be a specialized cup that you would purchase in order
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to do that. It's been in committee and will probably be presented to the
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full council next week now. Charleston City Council and Chad Robinson from Ward twenty
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was one of the ones that's really been behind this and he is going to
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not possibly read this. I appreciate it, but it's just way too long.
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I'll just read the first paragraph governor government shut down. Good, shut
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weapons in Ukraine to us to spent more than seventy billion dollars worth of financial
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aid and the US governments are paying. And I cannot read that because it's
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way too long. I'll try to get to it tomorrow on tomorrow's show.
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As I said, Charleston City Councilman Chad Robinson will be here, plus member
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of these upcoming Think Pink fundraiser on the show tomorrow, Brad mcahanny will be
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here as well. WV Metro News dot Com, WCHS Network dot Com.
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It's where you find all the news today. Hobby coming up next for my
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