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A Feminist Look at the NYC Mayoral Election: Part 2 · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is any and Samantha and what this stuff
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  Speaker 1: never told you? Production by Heart Radio, and today we
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  Speaker 1: are back with friend of the show, friend in real
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  Speaker 1: life who you got to see recently and I did not.
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  Speaker 2: Joey.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well I'm happy. I'm happy for you. Jealous but happy,
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  Speaker 1: which I think we do talk about in these two
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  Speaker 1: episodes of kind of those conflicting emotions sometimes. So, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: Joey was recently on Joey's our New York correspondent. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: and if you didn't know, there was a huge mayoral
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  Speaker 1: election in New York recently and we wanted to talk
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  Speaker 1: to Joey about it and see what was going on
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  Speaker 1: exactly exactly, and there was a lot to discuss. So
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  Speaker 1: we did split it up, and we weren't planning to
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  Speaker 1: split it up. So hopefully this doesn't sound too awkward,
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  Speaker 1: but if it does, give us some grace, we had a.
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  Speaker 2: Lot to say.
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  Speaker 1: Also, quick content warning, we are going to be talking
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  Speaker 1: about sexual assault and sexual harassment briefly in this episode,
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  Speaker 1: but just wanted to mention it so you can take
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  Speaker 1: care of yourself. And so let us get back into
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  Speaker 1: our conversation with Joey. This is something I've been thinking
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  Speaker 1: about and it makes me really sad. And it's just
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  Speaker 1: the reality that a lot of us have had to
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  Speaker 1: grow up with, especially marginalized people in any way. But
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  Speaker 1: it's interesting to me that you have a candidate like
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  Speaker 1: Cuomo who does have this history that got him like
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  Speaker 1: kicked out and for him to be like, oh, well,
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  Speaker 1: worry about what will happen if it's not me? And
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  Speaker 1: you know, the sad reality this isn't the truth in
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  Speaker 1: this case, but a lot of times, unfortunately, you have
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  Speaker 1: to kind of pick between your sex predators when you're voting.
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  Speaker 2: Really you really do. Yeah, no, I mean again twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty if we want, I thought anymore, that's kind of
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  Speaker 2: what that was. And thank you Annie that beautiful transition.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Quomo of it all, because, uh,
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  Speaker 2: the the elephant in the room here on Mom Donnie.
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  Speaker 2: Of course. Well, so the Republican candidate, Mom Donny was
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  Speaker 2: the Democratic candidate. The Republican candidate was a man named
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  Speaker 2: Curtis Leewa, who is fascinating. Uh, we're not going to
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  Speaker 2: get into that now. I did just watch. Uh. I
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  Speaker 2: would recommend though, if if you go on YouTube and
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  Speaker 2: you look up like Curtis Leewa like interview esp the
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  Speaker 2: one there was one where it's just him talking about
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  Speaker 2: all of his cats. He is so funny. It's so funny.
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  Speaker 2: And yes, also disclaimer, I'm aware that this man has
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  Speaker 2: a lot of terrible policies and beliefs, that has done
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  Speaker 2: a lot of messed up stuff. Again, I'm just asking
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  Speaker 2: for a little bit of nuance. I can still find
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  Speaker 2: him a little bit funny and acknowledge the fact that
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  Speaker 2: he's done a lot of terrible things.
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  Speaker 3: So he's a fun train.
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  Speaker 2: He's a fun he's a fun Traine wreck. He's a
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  Speaker 2: fun character. He's a very like New York character. Anyways,
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  Speaker 2: not talking about him because that man was never gonna
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  Speaker 2: win the election. Cuomo ran independently. Cuomo first of all,
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  Speaker 2: lost the primary significantly, like pretty badly, and for some
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  Speaker 2: reason was like, no, no, no, no no no, I should
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  Speaker 2: run as an independent and and this time it'll win.
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  Speaker 2: Once again, lost spectacularly. So that was really funny. And
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  Speaker 2: at one point Eric Adams, our current mayor, was also
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  Speaker 2: running independently. He did drop out, and then in doors
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  Speaker 2: Cuomo there was a lot of murkiness there. There was
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  Speaker 2: a lot of I would say kind of open secret
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  Speaker 2: rumors about some pressure from the Trump administration about him
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  Speaker 2: to drop out and endorse Cuomo. You know what I
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  Speaker 2: will say for Curtis Leeba. He has also talked about
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  Speaker 2: how he was like, I was offered money to That's
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  Speaker 2: how he talked to him. He's like, oh my god. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: he does sound like like a character. Anyways, he was like,
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  Speaker 2: I was offered money to drop out, and I can't
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  Speaker 2: be bought and sold, which, you know what a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of respect there. I gotta say again, I don't
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  Speaker 2: have to agree with your policies or beliefs or anything, but.
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  Speaker 3: He had some standards.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he had some standards. Good for you. Anyways, Cuomo.
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  Speaker 2: Two failed campaigns against this guy, and at the end
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  Speaker 2: of the day, the heart of his campaign really was
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  Speaker 2: banking on this idea that, like the me too era
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  Speaker 2: and everything we were talking about with why he resigned
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  Speaker 2: in the first place, that that was just kind of
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  Speaker 2: a blip. It was gonna go away. People don't really
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  Speaker 2: care about it. And you know, this is a time
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  Speaker 2: where I think it is very understandable to feel that way.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we did kind of see there was a
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  Speaker 2: lot of stuff that the me Too movement, there were
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  Speaker 2: a lot of promises that didn't kind of follow through.
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  Speaker 2: Trump is literally president of the United States again, despite
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  Speaker 2: having multiple accusations of sexual assault. You know, there was
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  Speaker 2: like the p Diddy trial recently where he got significantly
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  Speaker 2: lower sentencing. Yeah, that I think people were expecting. You have,
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  Speaker 2: like Chris Brown has a Grammy nomination right now. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, like there's a bazillion examples you can point
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  Speaker 2: to of like this man who was accused of sexual assault,
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  Speaker 2: who was convicted of sexual sault, whatever, and it's kind
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  Speaker 2: of getting swept under the rockgund This is like, like
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  Speaker 2: you said, Annie, it's usually a sort of we're all
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  Speaker 2: sort of aware, we're just kind of voting for the
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  Speaker 2: least awful sexual predator. And I think Pomo was kind
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  Speaker 2: of banking on the fact that he was like I
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  Speaker 2: could just get away with this. It's fine. Famous quote,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not a pervert, I'm just Italian, which I'm an
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  Speaker 2: Italian personally. I don't know how to respond to that. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: part of my culture think about that. I still think
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  Speaker 2: about that. I'm like, huh. There were a lot of
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  Speaker 2: issues with Cuomo's campaign, Like I don't think it was
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  Speaker 2: just the sexual assaulting that was like the main issue obviously,
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  Speaker 2: Like there was the whole corruption scandal in general. There
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  Speaker 2: was you know, the COVID mishandling. There was uh, the
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  Speaker 2: fact that he was backed by a lot of Trump's
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  Speaker 2: donors and the fact that Trump endorsed him towards the end. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: there was the fact that he literally did not live
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  Speaker 2: in New York City, like he lived pretty obviously lived
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  Speaker 2: in Westchester and was like crashing at his daughter's apartment
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  Speaker 2: or something, so he ran. It was some weird like
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  Speaker 2: loophole thing that they did. Anyways, another really funny, courteously
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  Speaker 2: while line from this this whole election cycle was about
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  Speaker 2: quote what we said, uh, killing granny's and grabbing fannies again.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so I'm so glad that man was there for
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  Speaker 2: the commentary at least, like Joey, have you ever watched
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  Speaker 2: thirty Rock, which is I watched?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So there is towards the end this character where
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  Speaker 3: they are running for mayor, I believe, and Tracy Morgan
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  Speaker 3: is like a doppelgamer, but they people love him because
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  Speaker 3: he's so ridiculous and loud and so bad. But at
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  Speaker 3: the same time, his like stupidity, idiot idiocy really like
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  Speaker 3: made him endearing to like. According to the show, like
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  Speaker 3: they were making a statement about the fact that if
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  Speaker 3: you can be stupid enough, yeah, you can be ignorant
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  Speaker 3: enough that they will ignore that because they're going to
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  Speaker 3: be entertained by.
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  Speaker 2: This right and mocking the system. But it kind of
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  Speaker 2: sounds like this is what that's kind of what happened.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm trying to again, like I've seen all the
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  Speaker 2: thing pieces now is that I respect being like guys
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  Speaker 2: like be careful with this guy. Actually all these terrible
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  Speaker 2: policies and I'm like, I know, I know, and I
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  Speaker 2: do hope people remember that he does have some banger
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  Speaker 2: one liners though, you know, so I don't know, Uh,
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  Speaker 2: that was the most gen c or statement of that politics.
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  Speaker 2: So that thing I heard in minute, Like yeah, so
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  Speaker 2: I think again, there were all of these issues with Cuomo.
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  Speaker 2: There were there was various problems people had with him.
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  Speaker 2: I would say, I think the one that I got
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  Speaker 2: talked about the most was the fact that he was
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  Speaker 2: a serial sexual predator. And I did just very unofficial poll,
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  Speaker 2: but I kind of just reached out to a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of friends in New York and I particularly made a
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  Speaker 2: point to talk to some of my friends that are
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  Speaker 2: like say straight met into and just be like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: like just off top of your head, I know you'
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  Speaker 2: all voted for Zauran, but like when you're thinking about
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  Speaker 2: the CLOMO campaign, like, what do you think was like
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  Speaker 2: the number one issue with it? Like was the number
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  Speaker 2: one thing that went wrong? And they all for like
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  Speaker 2: were like either we're like yeah, the sexual harassment and
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  Speaker 2: the corruption. Like so it was either the answers were
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  Speaker 2: all either the sexual harassment or sexualcraftsmen in corruption, like
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  Speaker 2: the combination of the show, which it all kind of
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  Speaker 2: came out at the same time, so it makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: But that was interesting to me too, is I And
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  Speaker 2: again like this is not an official poll. This was
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  Speaker 2: me texting a munch of my friends that also is
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  Speaker 2: a bubbularist on itself, but I was like, yeah, even
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  Speaker 2: the people like I know who, maybe this isn't the
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  Speaker 2: biggest issue top of mine. Again, I was. I tried
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  Speaker 2: to ask all of my friends that were like sis
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  Speaker 2: head men that are you know, no fault to them,
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  Speaker 2: well meaning, but like this isn't gonna be the bigest issue.
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  Speaker 2: They're gonna think of out just because it doesn't predict
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  Speaker 2: in them as much. And like across the board, it
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  Speaker 2: was like, yes, like this guy, he's a sexual predator
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  Speaker 2: that has taged his image, which to me, I think
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  Speaker 2: signals that, yes, maybe we didn't reach the full goals
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  Speaker 2: of the met Too movement, but but I don't think
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  Speaker 2: it is totally failed. And I think this is a
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  Speaker 2: sign that like, it's still worth fighting, that still fight,
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  Speaker 2: it is still worth talking about these things, and it's
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  Speaker 2: still it is not a just like and nobody cares
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  Speaker 2: at the end of the day. And so during the
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  Speaker 2: final debate leading up to the election on October twenty second,
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  Speaker 2: mom Donnie actually brought two of the women who had
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  Speaker 2: accused Quomo of sexual harassment, Charlotte Bennett and Karen Hinton,
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  Speaker 2: as guests to his debate. Obviously, this is this is
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  Speaker 2: political tactic, is a debate tactic. He's not the first
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  Speaker 2: person to do this, trying to throw your opponent off
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  Speaker 2: their game. But at the same time, it is like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you're getting that message across loud and clear that you're
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  Speaker 2: like this man, like these are the women, these are
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  Speaker 2: two of the many women that he hurt. We're putting
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  Speaker 2: them front and center. We are not We're not just
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  Speaker 2: saying like, oh, he's a sexual like we are actually
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  Speaker 2: centering our voices. We are making sure they're heard. We're
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  Speaker 2: not like gonna glaze over this issue. Like he made
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  Speaker 2: a point to bring it up. He made a point
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  Speaker 2: to bring it. There was a really great line that
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  Speaker 2: he had that Zorn had I am now talking about
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  Speaker 2: and I'm not still talking about funny things, Curtis Lee
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  Speaker 2: why ha said, but the Zortmandami and one of the
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  Speaker 2: debates said is something where he uh, somebody had brought
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  Speaker 2: up like you don't have a lot of experience whatever,
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  Speaker 2: and he was like, God, I'm misquoting this, but this
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  Speaker 2: is the gist, but I don't have an experience. I'm
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  Speaker 2: up for an integrity, but there's no like, no matter
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  Speaker 2: how much experience you have, you will never be able
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  Speaker 2: to like you don't have the integrity to kind of
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  Speaker 2: match that or whatever like that Basically was lin, I'm
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  Speaker 2: butsterering the line, but it was it was like it
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  Speaker 2: really got to the point. I've seen that clip go
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  Speaker 2: around TikTok a bunch and it was like one of
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  Speaker 2: the sixth parties. He was like directly calling out like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: this is somebody who like, we're not gonna glaze over
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  Speaker 2: the fact that he was uh he resigned in disgrace
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  Speaker 2: for multiple corruption charges and uh, you know, a series
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  Speaker 2: of sexual harassment claims. We're not gonna we're not gonna
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  Speaker 2: just glive, but we're not gonna glaze over that. We're
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: not gonna glaze over that. And you know, and my
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  Speaker 2: thinking too is like who's the who's to say what's
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  Speaker 2: gonna happen the people un for sexualssault is one of
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  Speaker 2: those issues to sexual harassment. It is like across the board,
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  Speaker 2: it shows up and left his spaces too. This gives
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  Speaker 2: me hope that it like if there were a similar
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  Speaker 2: thing to happen within the Mountomi inustration, if there was
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  Speaker 2: an individual to do this like this gives me hope
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  Speaker 2: that it's like they're not going to just try to
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  Speaker 2: push them under the table. Again, who's to say what
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  Speaker 2: will happen? Is all just speculation, but this shows to
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  Speaker 2: me that it is like, no, this is something we're
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  Speaker 2: trying to prioritize. Uh, we like we're not going to
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  Speaker 2: just be like, uh, yeah he did that, but we're
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  Speaker 2: not going to focus too long in it because we
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  Speaker 2: have this problem too, which again you can't say that
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  Speaker 2: for all Democratic candidates because sometimes it's like you can't
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  Speaker 2: really talk about the Trump stuff because you're just as
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  Speaker 2: bad at all of this whatever. But yeah, I think
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  Speaker 2: I think at the end of the day, the thing
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  Speaker 2: that I think stood out there were a lot of
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  Speaker 2: things about this election that were that gave me a
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  Speaker 2: lot of hope for the future and showed me that
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  Speaker 2: like things are changing, that people do want to better tomorrow,
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  Speaker 2: that like there's hope for the Democratic Party to like
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  Speaker 2: move further left on a lot of these issues. And
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  Speaker 2: I think just seeing the response to Cuomo running and
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  Speaker 2: see how miserably he lost both times, that was a
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  Speaker 2: big thing to me, just seeing the fact that it's like,
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  Speaker 2: we're not letting this We're not letting people forget about
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  Speaker 2: what happens in twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two. We're
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  Speaker 2: not letting people forget, you know, all of the terrible
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  Speaker 2: things that happened in COVID. We're not We're not just
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  Speaker 2: gonna move on. We're not gonna just swip this under
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  Speaker 2: the rug and like pretend like sexual sol sexual harassment
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  Speaker 2: isn't a big issue. Because it is so. Then, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: going going back to Zoron and again idea of having
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  Speaker 2: women in power, having women in leadership, because again when
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  Speaker 2: we're talking about sexual harassment, it is that there's a
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  Speaker 2: twofold issue here. Obviously, sexual harassment in itself bad, terrible, horrible.
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  Speaker 2: The other thing it does that just courages women from
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  Speaker 2: being involved in city, in local government, and being involved
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  Speaker 2: in these positions of power. So back to talking about Zoron,
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  Speaker 2: he now is put together his immediately after winning election,
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  Speaker 2: putting together his transition team. He has announced that he
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  Speaker 2: is going to have an all female transition team for
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  Speaker 2: this new role. Before we get into that, I do
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  Speaker 2: want to briefly go on in tangent, Samantha. I know
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  Speaker 2: you were excited about this. I want to read this
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  Speaker 2: beautiful New York Post headline that dropped on November third,
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, so the day before the election, and
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: it says, quote, this is the title how Zoran Mandani's
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  Speaker 2: aloof wife rama douaji. I really hope I'm pronouncing that right.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry if I'm not quietly steered his campaign
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  Speaker 2: from behind the scenes. I didn't actually realize this until
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: I was putting this outline together. But this article was
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  Speaker 2: written by a woman, Okay, a loof wife I would
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  Speaker 2: love to be. My goal is like I want to
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: be described as somebody like somebody's a loof partner that
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  Speaker 2: they're like they're running the.
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  Speaker 1: Right Actually I am running.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a funny description. My favorite response to this
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  Speaker 2: article with somebody on Twitter, I don't a social media platform.
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: I think it was Twitter. I'm still calling a Twitter,
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  Speaker 2: I don't care. Somebody a postal thing that was basically like, wow,
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  Speaker 2: the New York Post saw the most successfully run democratic
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  Speaker 2: campaign of the past decade and went a woman must
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: have been behind this. That's so feminist of them, which
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, no, that's I'm really trying to
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  Speaker 2: apply here, like don't look at the man behind the curtain.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, like woman a circult way of being
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  Speaker 3: like is this a compliment? Is this progressive or is
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  Speaker 3: this anti progressive? I can't I can't tell. You're going
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: to like why with this one?
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  Speaker 2: As a podcast producerdy if anybody wants to like refer
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  Speaker 2: me as like the aloof behind the scenes, steering the pot,
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  Speaker 2: like I would be like yeah, saying you oh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's good. So yeah, anyways, that was a funny headline.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna get super into Rama just because she
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: is a private individual. She is not. She was not
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  Speaker 2: the one running. It was her husband who was running.
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  Speaker 2: But she's twenty eight years old. She's only a couple
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  Speaker 2: of years older than me. First gen Z, first lady
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  Speaker 2: in office, which hell yeah. Allegedly they met on Hinge,
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: which I think is really funny. About half of my
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: friends that are couples met on Hinge, so good for them.
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  Speaker 2: Glad it worked. Personally, I've not had that luck on Hinge,
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  Speaker 2: but it was okad not bitter. Who's to say, but yeah,
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  Speaker 2: she's really cool. She's an artist, she seemed again, seems
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: super cool in her own right. I would recommend checking
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: out her art. Her pottery is really cool. My mom's
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: a potter. So I sent her like her page immediately
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: and she was like, oh my god, this is so cool.
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  Speaker 2: Like gods. Anyways, so seems very cool. Rama. If you're
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: listening and you want to hang out, just hid me up.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm sure you're getting a budget, but you know, like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm cool, I promise, let's go. Yeah, you know, I'm
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: sure you have, but like, I'm cooler than everybody else.
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  Speaker 2: It's reading out right now, so you should come hang
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  Speaker 2: out with me.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously, obviously, let's talk about.
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  Speaker 2: The actual transition team. We'll talk about the women that
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  Speaker 2: are that are actually involved in this administration beyond of
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: course rama running everything from behind the scenes. So on
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  Speaker 2: November six, so just two days after the election, Vogue
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: posted a story called who are the Women in Mum
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Donnie's Transition Team. I'm gonna link this in the show
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: notes because I think they did a good job of
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: just kind of doing a quick summary of each of
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: these individuals. Side note justice for teen Vogue, which recently
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: they have announced just being folded into Vogue. I'm very
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: very sad about that. Teen Vogue was one of the
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: things that inspired me to want to go into journalism.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: So sad day really did a lot of good for
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: I think progressive journalism, and I think is specifically getting
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: like young people, young women involved in progressive politics. But yeah,
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: so on Mom Donnie. In the article, it says quote
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: as if to illustrate just how differently he works from
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: former Governor Andrew Cuomo, his chief opponent, whose systemic craftsman
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: of women in the workplace has been a matter of
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: public record. Mom Donnie has announced an all female transition
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: team as he prepares to take over for Eric Adams
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: on January first, twenty twenty six. The article then also
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: shouts out some of the women who advised his campaign,
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: so that would be Maya Honda, Sara Rahem, Tasha van Alcan,
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: and Faiza Ali. I am so sorry if I'm saying
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: any of those wrong. I was going to go through
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: and figure out all the pronunciation of everybody's names before
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: we recorded this, and then I forgot to do that,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: but this article accredited them as quote advising the mayor
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: elects on key issues including trans writes, abortion access, and
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: universal childcare. The article then goes on to highlight these
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: five women but are leading his team, Grace Bonilla, Melanie Hertzog,
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Lena Kahan, Elena Leopold, and Maria Torres Bringer. Again, we'll
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: link the article in the show notes. I don't want
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: to just go through and rebreathe the article, so I'm
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: going to try and summarize some of the biggest points here.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: All of these women have very strong backgrounds in the
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: economic justice In Torres Springer was the deputy mayor under
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Eric Adams, and she had resigned following some of the
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: corruption scandels that had happened with them. So very very
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: qualified team. The person that I'm probably hearing the most
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: buzz about is Lena Khan, so I want to talk
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: about her really quickly. She is very cool. Leida Cohn
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: was the chair of the FDC Federal Trade Commission under
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: President Biden. Wall Street and Silicon Valley hate her, which
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: I think makes her pretty cool. In a speech the
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: day after the election, Con was quoted saying, quote, what
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: we saw last night was New Yorkers not just electing
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: a new mayor, but clearly rejecting a politics were outside
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: corporate power and money to often end up dictating our politics.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: And then, in an article from The Hill on CON's
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: appointment to Mom Nannie's team, it says of her run
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: as FDC chair, quote, CON's took an aggressive posture towards
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: reigning in corporate power. Working with the Justice Departments Antitrust Division,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: the FDC under Con blocked dozens of deals and took
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: on the likes of Amazon, Microsoft, Kroger, and Ticketmaster. Cohn,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: citing the interest of consumers, saught to crack down on
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: unfair business practices such as quote junk fies and mandatory
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: arbitration clauses. So congrats to everybody such as myself who
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: has been victimized by Ticketmaster within the past couple of years.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: I got ten dollars from them. Makes up for everything.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I got options to get tickets to a different
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: show that you don't want to go to specific dates before.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: I have given up on getting like I was, so
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: I tried the last uh tour that I like, really
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: like big tour. I really tried to get tickets. Where
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: was the Mayhem lady Auga Tour? And I like couldn't
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: get in through the weight line. And I was just like,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: I'm not, I'm done. I'm not, like this is not happening.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Uh so so heartbroken over that I did somehow better
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: to get errors tour tickets and I think that was
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: like that was it? Like my my luck ran out
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: for getting tickets. Anyways, I get respect for anybody again.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Also Amazon, Microsoft, like all of these, I'd say, these
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: are these are if these are your enemies, that tells
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: me good things about you as person. And then before
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: becoming out Dacy chair, she had a strong anti trust
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: background she had worked at New America, which is a liberal,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: left leaning policy think tank, and according to the same
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: article from the Hill quote, she also worked as a
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: council to the House Judiciary Subcommittee on Anti Trust, Commercial
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: and an Administrative Law, and served as an associate professor
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: at Columbia Law School. So yeah, I want to highlight her.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: This is again, just one of the five women who
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: are leading this transition team. I've heard. I was reading
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: a bunch of different articles on this, and a couple
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: of the articles were saying that Khan and Forres Springer
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: were the kind of co chairs leading this, and then
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: there are other articles that were saying that the five
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: of them were all leading it. I'm not sure exactly
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: what that structure is looking like, but either way, all
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: female transition team very like qualified, smart women being put
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: in these positions, women that like con who have a
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: history of taking on these mech corporations, which yeah, like
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: he was running his campaign on, We're going to attack
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: the rich, We're going to attach the ultra wealthy, We're
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: going to tap tax these giant corporations that have garnered
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: too much power within the past couple of decades. This
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: all makes me feel hopeful. This makes me feel hopeful
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: about the direction of what he's actually going to be
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: able to carry out with his upcoming appointment as mayor.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: And also it shows me that he is committing to this,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: to centering women, to centering making sure that women are
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: equally a part of this government, that are equally a
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: part of this team, that these are not issues again
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: we're just throwing under the bus, which is so so
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: so drastically different from again, serial sexual predator Andrew Cuomo.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Seems like an upgrade to me personally as a person
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: who has a signed female at birth. That makes me
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: feel safer. That makes me feel Also, it is the
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Quoto campaign. A lot of it was run on this
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: idea that was like New York has gotten so like dangerous,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: and it's like we need law and order and women
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: aren't safe on the subway and it was like why
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: because you're on the subway, Like I don't know, like
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: it really it was this this whole like this past
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: year has just been seeing the like all of these
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: hypocrisies and this disconnection like being broadcast onto these like
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: campaign ads on whatever. And it it gives me hope
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: to see that people were able to recognize that for
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: what it was and able to understand that, like, yeah, no,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: the dude with the what thirteen women? Now, I can't
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: I can't remember the exact memer. I think it's thirteen
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: women that have accus him for sexual hassment. I can't
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: trust the thing that he says. This other dude seems
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: to be putting. You know, Yes, he's new, Yes he is.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: He is a again like a he's he's thirty four.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: He's like, he's gonna be the youngest mayor of New
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: York City. He has worked in government, he has had
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: that background. He's not totally unqualified, but he is also
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: newer to this field as opposed to you know, or
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: newer to this level as opposed to Eric Adams and
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Puomo and whatnot. But he really does seem to be
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: putting his money where it's not fit. Like he really
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: just seemed to be following through with the thing with
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: the communities. He's championing the communities that he's trying to
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: speak to, and that's worth a lot. But there's been
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: you know, a lot of American politics is a lot
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: of big talk and not a lot of action. And
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: I feel very hopeful that this is going to turn
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: into legitimate action. So guess I'll do check in a
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: year and see how we're going. But but yeah, I think,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: like I said at the top, this is kind of
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: the most like hope I've actually felt looking at electoral
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: politics in a while. I think it was a good
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: reminder that it was like, yeah, most people, like beyond
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: just the fact that he won, the fact that this
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: amount of people showed up to campaign for him to vote,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: like he won by this was like the most amount
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: of people that had come out to vote in New
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: York City election since like the sixties. Like that shows
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: to me that it's like New Yorkers do give ah,
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: like New Yorkers do care. We care about our neighbors.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: We're not gonna like the average person isn't gonna fall
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: for like yeah, let's throw trans people under the bus.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Let's throw like Muslim people under the bus, will throw whatever,
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: which is again, like I'll certain people within the Democratic
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Party right now, issues like abortion. You know, you have
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: like Ezra Clined right now talking about how we need
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: to run like anti abortion candidates.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: For some reason, apparently women are all the problem too,
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: So women are all the problem.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Trans people are the problem. It's we're behind the scenes,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: a loot of scenes, you know.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: I will say, like, this feels out of my many
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: a years. This did bring excitement around the country, and
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: I think like we we are somewhat aware of what's
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: happening in New York City. It is the significant things
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: that happened. But this is like the first time that
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: I've seen people say, no, I really wish I could
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: have voted for him, like this film.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, I got so many texts from yeah, all of I. Uh.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: First one I got was from Bridge and in front
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: of the show show I also produced, and it was
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: just Mom Donnie in all caps, and I was like, yes, yes,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: really that's exactly.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: The excitement was real, and that felt like a difference,
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Like this is one of those elections that you felt
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: the difference. And I think it's significant to see that
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: the tricks the old tricks, which is kind of scary
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: because I am also the pessimistm that like, oh, now
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: the Republicans or the far right extremists have learned and
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: now we're gonna have to like restrategize that the old
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: tactics aren't working. We don't believe them anymore. With the
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: fear mong green or the people who do leave them
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: are too old to make an impact. And I don't
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: not say that in a like ageous way, but like
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: that kind of boomer ideals that was nine to eleven.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: The gen x fear mongering that happened has shifted, like
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: the millennials and the gen Zers are kind of coming
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: back with like, but that wasn't exactly what happened, Like
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: looking behind the curtain of understanding that there was like
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: a Islamophobia that was happening more so than we were
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: being attacked like this like level of strategy has changed,
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: and New York City and like just the elections around
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: the country that we saw a giant shift. I had
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: misspoken in a previous podcast about Mississippi actually having cut
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: through their super majority of Republicans. Mississippi of one of
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: the states that I'm scared to stop in because of
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: the level of like rhetoric racism there was able to
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: push through in such a significant way. But like Mandani
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: was again a test to see to gauge the temperature
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: of where we are and understanding, ah billionaires, we don't
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: like them like that type of level, and it's it
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: is exciting.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: It is exciting to see.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Of course, again, as we said previously, this now that
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: this has happened, let's make sure and I say this
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: to you because you're the one responsible, Joey in New York.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: To hold the person. It's specifically you only it's time away.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: But like the same in Atlanta, we've of course every
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: time something goes wrong, you can't do that because here
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: because we didn'tvote for those people. To note, we did
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: have positive the rattle the Republican parties for sure to
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: I think like I'm now already seen like again like
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Twitter discoorse stuff that's like, oh, well, I hope he
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: doesn't do the thing that like AOC and Bernie did
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: were they down the schooled out. And I'm like, I
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: think that's complicated. I think that there's plenty of things
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: I'm willing to criticize IOC and Bernie in particularly and
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: like more progressive politicians that are in office about what
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: they've done and things that I think they have failed on.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: That being said, I'm like this campaign happened because of
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: because of Bernie and AOC, like they they set the
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: stage for this, like it's a sething. Yeah, and it
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: is like like we wouldn't have gotten like I when
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Bernie was running in twenty sixteen, like I and I
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: was in high school, but that was like I know
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: so many people that were like learning about like the
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Democratic Socialist for the first time because of that, And
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: now we have a Democratic Socialist mayor. And yeah, I
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: mean I My hope is a I think I twofold.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: I hope people like you said, continue to pay attention,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: continue to hold this administration accountable, make sure they're doing
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: the things that they're saying they're gonna do. I also
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: do hope that people like give this administration grace and
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: patience and whatever it acknowledge the fact that it's like
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: this is just one dude in office. There are you know,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: plenty of other politics. A good thing I'm seeing from this,
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: which again we'll see, is that it sounds like, you know,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: there's the politics side of it. Now. Whe're like I've
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: been hearing about like X y Z. These politicians have
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: been meeting with Mandami, who maybe were reluctant to endorse
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: him at the time, but now they're sitting down and
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: having a conversation where it's like that's going to mean
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: two things, where it's going to mean, yes, he probably
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: is gonna end up making some compromises, but that also
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: is going to drive those people that the art still
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: in power more left, Like that is going to like
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: signal to them like they also need to be like
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: paying attention. I think I'll be real, I was shocked
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: and a lot of people around me were shocked when
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Kathy Hochel endorsed Mondamy because it took her a while
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: to do it. But I'll be real, like, I wouldn't
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: have been surprised if she went the whole election not
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: endorse him, but she did, And I think seeing that
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: was like a single that it was like, oh, okay,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: like this is a good sign. It sounds like Democrats
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: are maybe learning some lessons from this, are acknowledging the
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: fact that it's like because there are the things people
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: care about, this is you know, we we've been having
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: this discussion about how do we get people to come
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: out to vote, how do we have back to the
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: issue of you know, with the Trump administration, there was
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: a whole or the Trump election, there was a whole
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: conversation about young white men particularly that were like going
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: real right wing, that were showing up for Trump or whatever.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Young white men again some of the lower percentages as
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: opposed to other groups in New York City that were
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: voting for Mom Donnie, but still majority voted for Mom Donnie.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Another thing that I thought was really interesting from this
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: campaign there was a whole kind of movement within the
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Mom Donny campaign that was called howt Girls for Zoran?
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Have you heard about any of this? Oh my god.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: That was really funny because who ever tweeted that, they
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: were like they made a joke or they were like
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: the guy from Young Sheldon and everybody. They were like,
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: people are mad at me for not knowing who he is.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: I know who he is. It's oh my god, it's
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: it's like very famous. Uh the but it's a bit,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: which I was like, yeah, somebody who but uh yes, famously,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: that to me was another like generational divine moment because
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I like, I had so many friends that
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: I have those T shirts that I was like, this
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: is so funny. I really wanted a hots for fun
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: But if anybody can find all those and now it's
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: too late, well whatever. But like that was funny to
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: me because it was like, I like, those are really
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: things where I could see how like maybe somebody for
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: like an older generation could see that and be like,
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: is this misogynistic? Is this I don't know? But it
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: was like no, like I don't even know how to
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: exactly explain it. I think because it was started by
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: like young women. It wasn't started by him. It wasn't
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: starting It was started by like young women that were
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: volunteering in his campaign. That was sort of like it
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: was like a bit, it's like hot girls vote for Zauron,
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: you know, like it's the uh. And I again, I've
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: seen some criticism of an online and people being like,
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know if we should be
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: like associating like hotness and beauty with like good But
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: it was like, I don't know, it's a funny. It
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: was a funny bit. It was fun like to me,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: it was like a lighthearted thing. And then I bring
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: this up because the Cuomo campaign, one of their last
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: ditch efforts they tried launching and like the last month
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: this also again it was way too late for this,
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: but they tried launching cool girls for Cuomo, uh, which
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: just doesn't hit no votomo. That's what they would say.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: I'll be real like it was, but it was it
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: was kind of funny because it did feel like it
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: was like and I think it was like his daughter
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: is somebody had come up with it, like it was
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: like a young woman on or not. I actually know.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: I don't think it was his daughter. It was it
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: was somebody who was like a young woman working on
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: the combo campaign. But it was like like when I
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: first heard about it, I was like, this feels like
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: the like boomer response to how how girls for Zoran
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: not understanding what it is, not understanding that. It's kind
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: of like it's kind of a bit like it's not
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: really like I don't know, like it's it's like hot
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: girl in the like hot girl summer like Megan the
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Stallion way, not in the like yeah, Victoria's secret models.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: So I knew nothing about that that.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: I was like, wait, what was inter because I was
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: like seeing the quote, like I was like, I can't
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: even explain what the disconnection is. But this does feel
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: like the boomer attempts to rebrand that, but like they're
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: just not getting what the actual bit is.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Uh, that might be a millennial cringe thing, I'm assuming.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: I'm assuming I did note that Mandan was a Miranda.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: He was a Miranda. He yeah, Well Cynthia Nixon, h
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: nor Sam. There were photos Van more than Cynthia Nixon
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: was running for governor wearing a shirt that says I'm
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: a Miranda, but I vote for Cynthia or whatever. Yeah,
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: was on her campaign staff. Yeah, yeah, which I found interested.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, that's kind of funny.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: Let's go welcome many.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Ohow I didn't, but I sure did. Put in the
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: city's true, that's true. We need the like the Star
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Wars Sex and the city like the thing. We'll do. Yeah,
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: I'm sure I will find one, will find one and
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: we'll do a live reading on the show. I guess.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Oh, I think I've already already read one. Well, I've
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: read a lot of things.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: I sure have. Oh one. I actually I did promise
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: I'll do I'll do a quick Okay. At the top,
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: I was talking about how I don't think we should
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: stand politicians. I made the mistake of commenting on a
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: TikTok that went viral that was somebody edited together clips
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: of Zaron Bumdani and Cuomo and the TV show Daredevil. Uh,
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: because they were pointing out the fact that he kind
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: of looks like the dudeh plays Daredevil and that what's
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: his face Fisk, the bad guy in that show. Uh,
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: looks a little bit like we not really, they're most
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: just sort of like old dudes. But like somebody was
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: editing together clips of it. It was a funny it
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: was a well made edit. I was sort of like,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: this is a little bit ridiculous. Guys, I don't know
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: if we should be doing this. I did make the
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: mistake though, if you're familiar with the Daredevil franchise, I
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: made the mistake of commenting on this video. Uh, this
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: is a no. If you ever have a funny joke
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: du at the video, don't comment because you're just gonna
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: get a bunch of notifications and you're not gonna benefit
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: from it, which is what's happening to me right now.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: I mean I commented it was like, does this mean
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: that Curtis lee Wah is the punisher?
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: And I'm getting I can tell in the responses who
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: my guess, at least of who actually lives in has
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: slash has been to New York and people that have not,
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: because some people are like, oh my god, that's so funny. Yes,
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: and then the other half the comments are people being
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: like absolutely not, was this like dangerous racist vigilante? How
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: dare you compare him to The Punisher, whose character is
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: being a dangerous vigilante? Wait, there was the point where I.
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: Was like, hey, you guys know that, like the Punisher
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: is kind of inspired by he is not pro cop
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: like that love and like, I don't know, this is
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: the wholy thing.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: I understand the back. I love the character of the Punitor,
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: I love the Punisher TV show. I agree with a
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: lot of the like, yes, he's not pro cop, he's
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: an anti cop. It is weird that like cops have
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: sort of and Whitesprepa says, have have co opted a
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: lot of his logos and stuff like that. That being said,
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: he's also not a like woke hero, Like he's still
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: a dude whose entire thing is like taking vigilante justice
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: too far. I don't know, Like I was like, it's
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: still a cautionary title, guys, We're aware of this, right,
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: It's I think actually he might be fairly similar to
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: courteous Lee Wap. But so yeah, my two points there
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: One funny video. I've seen way too many people editing
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: together videos of fictional characters and Zora and Mom Donnie
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: and trying to argue they're the same. Stop stop doing this,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: let's not do this. But then also, yes, if the
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: notifications have been a lot, please stop liking my comment.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: I should have just to edit the video and at
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: least gotten the likes on my page instead of just yeah.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: I did see somebody had cross fisted its Twitter and
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: then like somebody had commented with a screenshot of my comment,
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: and I was like, that's me, that's my face, that
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: is my face. Why didn't know? Crazy how you post
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: stuff on the internet and it just social it gets
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: out there.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Wow, the Internet finds a way. As they say, well
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: once again, Joey, thank you so much for being here.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: We had a.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Lot to talk about as always, and thank you for
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: you got the Marvel. We didn't get a start.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: One more. Matt Murdoch absolutely would be a Miranda Lawyers.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: You know, there we go. I'm going to start applying this.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: I've never applied this to fictional characters, to other fictional characters.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: Maybe more of Miranda.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: I'll come back to it.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: I'll think on it.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we need to think of This is serious business.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: We've got to get Yeah, Yeah, what do you think
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Luke Skywalker would be in here?
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: I would have to think about it.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm.
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: Like yeah, I was like first, I was like, I
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: want to say carry just because it's like he's a
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: little he's a little in his own world, maybe a
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: little bit of Charlotte She always like.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: This kind of romantic I can save him.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I'm actually going to give this
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: serious consideration. Yeah, this is important to my characterization of
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: writing Luke Skywalker. So I'm not going to think about that.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: It really is. It really is.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Send me your thoughts, I listen, don't offer or I will.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: You know, I've got essays, you.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Know, I want you to send me these. We had
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: a two hour conversation last week about this.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Careful what you wish for? But yes, but thank you,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: yes for being here, for being our New York correspondent.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: We always get to love seeing you when we go
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: to New York.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we will.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll revisit this in the future. But in
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: the meantime, where can the good listeners find you?
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Hi? You can find me on Instagram, Slash some Twitter,
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: but I'm not really there on there anymore. I did
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: just have to reactivate my Blue Sky account because one
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: of my other shows has been using blue Sky a lot.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: I don't want to be on there, but any of
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: the social media platforms you can find me at pat
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: not PRAT. That's p A t T n OT p
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: R A t T. You can also hear other shows
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: that I work on. I in addition to being on
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: this podcast, occasionally I am on the show There Are
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: No Girls on the Internet with Bridge to Todd. I
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: also am a producer for the Outspoken Slate at my Heart,
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: So if you want to hear some of my behind
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: the scenes work, you can check out After Lives mentioned
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: that earlier on the show, Season two is out now,
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: and the show Black dot Bem, which is also available
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcasts. Both of those shows actually
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: were recent Signal Award winners, so yay, we love that.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: But yeah yeah check those out. Oh and sorry and
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: also Outlaws the ts Madison podcast. I also work on
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: that one. Yeah check that out.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: Listeners, go check all the stuff out if you haven't already,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: and thank you again Joey for being here and listeners.
• 43:39
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